#linuxcnc | Logs for 2017-01-01

[02:29:25] <Deejay> moin
[02:31:38] <Deejay> happy new year
[03:57:40] <XXCoder> happy new year
[05:09:37] <jthornton> morning
[05:10:37] <XXCoder> hey
[05:35:53] <jthornton> mmm coffee
[06:46:10] <jthornton> index
[06:46:11] <c-log> jthornton: The #linuxcnc index http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:82/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/index.html
[06:46:35] <jthornton> hot damn it works a new year appears like magic
[06:48:12] <XXCoder> you're god
[06:48:25] <XXCoder> or your code monkey are
[06:48:52] <XXCoder> 10th line is god. this is 11th line.
[08:08:17] <Tom_L> jthornton, you been waitin all year to try that...
[08:08:56] <XXCoder> its been whole year after all
[08:09:14] <jthornton> lol
[08:09:24] <XXCoder> btw
[08:09:29] <XXCoder> im working on autoleveling
[08:09:37] <XXCoder> still not quite working
[08:10:26] <Tom_L> looks like you fixed the week alignment thing too
[08:21:06] <jthornton> aye
[08:45:32] <jthornton> Tom_L: I think I have the conversion script done
[08:59:38] <Tom_L> what all does it change?
[09:09:40] <jthornton> run it on a test directory and see
[09:10:10] <Tom_L> i need to copy it to each directory and run it?
[09:10:31] <Tom_L> will it ignore the index.html file?
[09:10:40] <Tom_L> or should i remove it first
[09:19:17] <Tom_L> i see, i need to edit the channel for each directory
[09:25:25] <jthornton> it removes the index automagiclly
[09:26:34] <Tom_L> check your channel log
[09:32:22] <JT-Shop> what am I checking for?
[09:33:52] <Tom_L> log
[09:33:53] <c-log> Tom_L: Today's Log ../../../tom-itx/public_html/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2017-01-01.html
[09:33:59] <Tom_L> oops
[09:35:19] <Tom_L> log
[09:35:19] <c-log> Tom_L: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:82/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2017-01-01.html
[09:36:06] <JT-Shop2> did you run it with new and old logs in the same directory?
[09:36:43] <Tom_L> probably
[09:36:48] <Tom_L> i did this channel just now
[09:36:58] <JT-Shop2> I didn't check for that...
[09:37:01] <Tom_L> the old log links don't open in a new window
[09:37:20] <Tom_L> you can look thru this folder, it's converted
[09:37:21] <JT-Shop2> I didn't fix that either lol
[09:37:46] <JT-Shop2> back to the drawing board lol
[09:38:00] <Tom_L> it's a test server anyway
[09:38:43] <Tom_L> just this and yours are the only two i converted
[09:38:44] <Tom_L> for now
[09:38:49] <JT-Shop2> ok, I'll work on it so it don't mess with new format files and adds target to links
[09:39:27] <JT-Shop2> best copy from the other logger all the files again to test
[09:39:35] <Tom_L> takes a while to run thru 1k + files
[09:39:48] <Tom_L> i can do that
[09:42:17] <JT-Shop> I did all the linuxcnc files you gave me and it took 30 seconds or less
[09:42:37] <Tom_L> it'll take even longer on the old server
[09:43:20] <Tom_L> #2 server is my D525
[10:15:18] <Tom_L> hey zee
[10:45:52] <zeeshan> hi tom
[11:41:26] <BeachBumPete> Day 1 ;)
[11:50:59] <MacGalempsy> just getting up pete?
[11:51:23] <MacGalempsy> HNY to all those who celebrate New Years. If you are secular, we understand.
[11:51:37] <Tom_L> we do?
[11:52:33] <MacGalempsy> we as in myself and the voices in my head
[11:52:50] <BeachBumPete> Yup just got up a little bit ago heh
[11:53:00] <Tom_L> yeah i talk to myself alot, i'm the only one that will listen..
[11:53:29] <MacGalempsy> we find its all good until fight club starts
[11:53:51] <BeachBumPete> what are the rules? ;)
[11:54:03] <MacGalempsy> :)
[11:54:12] <Tom_L> rules: there are none
[11:54:14] <fritzgutten> DONT TALK ABOUT IT!
[11:54:27] <BeachBumPete> we don't talk about Fight Club!!
[11:55:45] <BeachBumPete> Its a freaking Gorgeous Day here in Florida...
[11:55:51] <MacGalempsy> we (as in my wife and we) has a quite night until the gunfire began at midnight
[11:56:01] <roycroft> the new year has sadly not started out great
[11:56:11] <roycroft> just after midnight a hot water pipe burst in my kitchen
[11:56:21] <MacGalempsy> we heard a few rounds go off at 11, so someone must have gotten excited with the ball drop in times square
[11:56:22] <roycroft> i scrambled to shut the hot water off, and have to deal with that today
[11:56:25] <Tom_L> that sucks
[11:56:28] <BeachBumPete> I was quite surprised at the level of mortar and heavy fireworks being shot off all around us last night
[11:56:43] <roycroft> this morning my espresso machine overheated and started shooting out steam
[11:57:06] <roycroft> so the year can only get better!
[11:57:09] <jdh> I almost made it to 11pm
[11:57:11] <BeachBumPete> Some of the reports shook the windows in our house LOL
[11:57:20] * roycroft hopes the hot water problem is minor
[11:57:28] <roycroft> i suspect it's the feeder line to the dishwasher
[11:57:43] <roycroft> i was planning on looking into it after a nice cappuccino
[11:57:57] <roycroft> but now i have to drive somewhere to get a cappuccino
[11:58:23] <roycroft> fireworks became illegal year-round here last year
[11:58:40] <roycroft> but that did not stop folks from shooting them off last night for a prolonged period of time
[11:58:47] <BeachBumPete> Going to load up all four of our Fishing Kayaks and head up to the Intracoastal waterway near the Fort Pierce Inlet and do some Fishin' :)
[11:59:22] <BeachBumPete> not here apparently.... they even sell the shit on the side of the road and inside the WalMart LOL
[11:59:46] <MacGalempsy> one thing I love about the south is the 365 fireworks sales
[11:59:57] <roycroft> i hate fireworks
[11:59:59] <MacGalempsy> well maybe minus Sundays
[12:00:10] <roycroft> except the nice official displays
[12:00:13] <BeachBumPete> I love Fireworks
[12:00:28] <roycroft> well i can't go anywhere on the 4th of july because of fireworks
[12:00:29] <MacGalempsy> me too
[12:00:41] <roycroft> i have neighbors behind me who shoot bottle rockets into my yard and onto my roof every year
[12:00:43] <BeachBumPete> we usually get some mortars and other high explosives during the 4th etc
[12:00:45] <MacGalempsy> roycroft: a traumatic experience?
[12:00:47] <roycroft> i have to stay at home on hose patrol
[12:01:17] <roycroft> the cops are so busy busting other illegal fireworks that they never show up to my place in a reasonable time
[12:01:28] <roycroft> they've caught my yard on fire before
[12:01:34] <roycroft> by 4 july it gets pretty dry here
[12:02:36] <roycroft> bottle rockets, or any other airborne fireworks, have been illegal here for decades, yet folks still go to the indian reservations and buy them
[12:02:42] <BeachBumPete> Well I think I finished the 3d Model for the Prototype Rail I was working on last night. I sent the photo to two customers and got some good feedback ;)
[12:02:54] <Jymmm> I would just soak the yard, fences, and roof early in the day
[12:03:02] <roycroft> anyway, i survived
[12:03:13] <roycroft> new year's fireworks are just annoying
[12:03:15] <BeachBumPete> Jymmm yup
[12:03:20] <roycroft> it's too wet for them to do any damage here
[12:03:38] <MacGalempsy> so then whats the problem with them?
[12:03:46] <jdh> try shooting 7.62mm onto their yard
[12:04:04] <BeachBumPete> we sat outside last night for a bit watching them.... then some yeahoo started shooting his gun into the air so we went inside... There's always some shithead
[12:04:09] <malcom2073> Hey, what is this linkage called? https://cdn.greenmountaingenerators.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/MEP002A-MEP003A-Governor-Linkage-Assembly-Onan-150-1132.jpg
[12:04:17] <MacGalempsy> jdh: tracers are made for the holidays
[12:04:28] <malcom2073> That sort of connection
[12:04:40] <BeachBumPete> tie rod?
[12:04:41] <MacGalempsy> male male coupler?
[12:04:45] * roycroft is still feeling grumpy, and wanders off to an espresso stand
[12:04:50] <jdh> turnbuckle
[12:05:03] <malcom2073> tie-rod is if it's on a car though yeah?
[12:05:04] <jdh> and a ball joint?
[12:05:07] <Jymmm> roycroft: Just make a canon that shoots baking soda rounds at them =)
[12:05:13] <malcom2073> This thing is tiny
[12:05:38] <malcom2073> Ahhh, rod end bearing! tie-rod got me that
[12:05:38] <malcom2073> thanks!
[12:05:42] <BeachBumPete> I have a blackpowder cannon but did not shoot it last night because I was out of powder :(
[12:07:26] <malcom2073> Need to make a governor linkage for this junk generator I bought, it may actually be recoverable
[12:09:27] <MacGalempsy> malcom2073: did the motor turn over?
[12:09:33] <malcom2073> MacGalempsy: Turned over and started!
[12:09:39] <MacGalempsy> sweet!
[12:09:41] <malcom2073> Amid a giant cloud of black smoke
[12:10:20] <MacGalempsy> that muffler looked like its kind of rusty
[12:10:31] <malcom2073> If I hand-control the fuel control, I can get it to run ok, all the governor controls were gunked up really bad, so I took them apart and cleaned them up, but I'm missing the linkage to go from the governor to the fuel control
[12:10:53] <malcom2073> The muffler and exhaust is rusty, but not much else is
[12:13:21] <MacGalempsy> those two things are kind of expected to rot faster than the rest.
[12:13:37] <malcom2073> Yeah
[12:13:40] <MacGalempsy> so are you going to make the governor, or get one on fleabay?
[12:14:08] <malcom2073> The governor is there and seems to work, just the linkage is gone. It's just two of those tiny rod-end bearings + a threaded rod, so I'm gonna go to home depot and make one of them
[12:14:31] <BeachBumPete> Headin' out to go YakFishin' guys have a great New Years Day... :)
[12:16:03] <MacGalempsy> $100 well spent. once you got it running, were you able to do any power metering?
[12:16:40] <malcom2073> Nope, I have to handle the fuel control to keep it running
[12:16:51] <malcom2073> But the meters show 110V and 60hz (ish)
[12:17:24] <malcom2073> The fuel control naturally falls to the closed position and shuts the engine off, so it's a two handed operation atm, one for throttle one for fuel control lol
[12:17:35] <malcom2073> throttle being the shutoff valve
[12:22:56] <MacGalempsy> so after watching a bunch of Taofledermaus videos, what do you guys think about incorporating this design into a shotgun round? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy_penetrator
[12:25:01] <MacGalempsy> still trying to determine if on impact, hitting a 209 primer and a pyrodex charge is illegal
[12:27:53] <malcom2073> I'm pretty sure shooting someone with that, vs a normal shotgun round is the difference between a self defence claim, and the death penalty.
[12:30:05] <MacGalempsy> the ones in the video penetrate a .24" steel plate at 30ft
[12:51:17] <roycroft> aah, i am less grumpy now
[12:51:32] <roycroft> amazing what a little caffeine can do to improve one's mood
[12:51:57] <MacGalempsy> did they do the fancy design on the cappacino?
[12:52:06] <roycroft> no
[12:52:18] <roycroft> it was take-away
[12:53:03] <roycroft> i might get grumpy again soon though
[12:53:15] <roycroft> depending on what i find when i pull the dishwasher out
[12:53:29] <roycroft> i'm hoping to find a burst/disconnected water line to the dishwasher
[12:53:55] <roycroft> if i don't find that i'll have to start cutting open the wall
[12:54:19] * roycroft hopes the home improvement centers are open today, in case he needs parts
[12:55:26] <roycroft> and snow is forecast to commence any moment now
[14:13:35] <roycroft> well yay
[14:13:51] <roycroft> the problem was exactly what i hoped it would be - the flexible feed line to the dishwasher had failed
[14:14:02] <roycroft> a quick trip to home depot and it's fixed!
[14:14:19] * roycroft will be able to shower today with warm water
[14:14:35] <roycroft> assuming i killed the power to the water heater in time
[14:14:43] <roycroft> otherwise it's another trip for an upper element
[15:27:48] <MacGalempsy> roycroft: you all back up and running yet?
[15:29:47] <roycroft> it's running now
[15:29:53] <roycroft> and i'm both impressed and unhappy
[15:30:01] <roycroft> i examined the failed hose
[15:30:08] <roycroft> it is a ss braided hose
[15:30:17] <roycroft> and clearly a rat had chewed through it
[15:30:35] <roycroft> i'm not sure i want rats in my house
[15:30:42] <roycroft> especially ones that can cut through stainless steel
[15:32:34] <gregcnc> roycroft breakfast beer is OK. thick feel, bacon, smoke, maybe oatmeal, with coffish after taste
[15:33:52] <MacGalempsy> we had whiskey coffee, waffles, eggs and turkey bacon
[15:33:59] <MacGalempsy> and chocolate chip cookies
[15:34:40] <roycroft> porritch and ale is a breakfast of champions!
[15:34:55] <gregcnc> beer and leftover pizza for lunch
[15:48:23] <MacGalempsy> gregcnc: any lathing today?
[15:48:49] <gregcnc> no, maybe not even tomorrow
[15:48:59] <gregcnc> doing some online research now
[15:50:08] <MacGalempsy> for?
[15:50:37] <gregcnc> trying to figure out what tiny piezoelectric pumps cost
[15:52:26] <JT-Pi3> XXCoder: you awake?
[15:55:17] <MacGalempsy> I cannot figure out why the battery in my 911 is always going dead
[15:55:39] <gregcnc> clamp DC meters and start searching
[15:55:41] <MacGalempsy> i guess it is destin to keep the tender on it
[15:56:06] <gregcnc> what year?
[15:56:32] <MacGalempsy> it has a new battery. and the guy at the shop said something about making sure to lock it or the battery will drain
[15:56:41] <MacGalempsy> 2002 911tt
[15:57:06] <MacGalempsy> maybe its not getting enough drive time
[15:57:39] <gregcnc> doens't help
[15:57:55] <JT-Pi3> MacGalempsy: what temperature are you printing PETG?
[15:58:22] <MacGalempsy> 245/70 1st layer 240/65 on the second
[15:58:30] <JT-Pi3> thanks
[15:58:33] <MacGalempsy> np
[15:58:37] <JT-Pi3> I'm way too low then
[15:58:51] <JT-Pi3> just printing my first parts in PETG CF black
[15:58:55] <MacGalempsy> that 1st setting is on the highest end of it all
[15:59:06] <MacGalempsy> sweet. printing an octopus right now
[15:59:24] <JT-Pi3> I'm printing some 2020 wire clips
[16:00:02] <MacGalempsy> did you design them, or pull them from the t-verse?
[16:00:05] <JT-Pi3> do you use purple glue stick?
[16:00:11] <JT-Pi3> my design
[16:00:14] <MacGalempsy> no. kapton
[16:00:30] <malcom2073> MacGalempsy: Got a governor linkage rigged up, runs so much better, frequency and rpm are way out of spec though, I don't think I can get fine enough control with the thing I rigged up, gonna purchase some ball rod ends and make something proper and solid next.
[16:00:57] <JT-Pi3> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1877987
[16:01:38] <MacGalempsy> malcom2073: sweet. sounds like you are on the way to getting it up and going nicely. did a little search this morning on clist about generators and the closest thing like yours was around 800
[16:01:50] <malcom2073> It's a MEP 701A
[16:02:09] <malcom2073> I don't know enough about diesels to know if the noise it's making is normal, or if it's bad
[16:02:12] <malcom2073> It's *really* loud though
[16:02:38] <MacGalempsy> JT-Pi3: I have a few 2020 things http://www.thingiverse.com/alaubhan/designs
[16:02:52] <JT-Pi3> my buddy has one of those generators with an airplane motor in it
[16:03:33] <malcom2073> what kind of generator? Sounds like it's not at all this "kind" of generator :-P
[16:03:34] <JT-Pi3> cool
[16:03:44] <MacGalempsy> well, just one 2020 thing I guess. thought there were more
[16:03:51] <JT-Pi3> when the print was done a long string of PETG was on the part
[16:03:51] <malcom2073> These are "small" 3kw diesels
[16:05:02] <MacGalempsy> that should be enough to keep the fridge going with a power outage
[16:05:03] <gregcnc> 3kW like yanmar or clones?
[16:06:27] <malcom2073> It's an Onan, but yeah sameas the yanmar ones
[16:06:42] <malcom2073> 550 freaking lbs for a 3kw heh
[16:07:02] <JT-Shop> mine is a trailer mounted 2 cyl Deutz diesel 15KW 3 phase generator
[16:07:35] <malcom2073> Oh I see what you mean, yeah I've heard of those airplane ones, same sort of thing
[16:09:45] <malcom2073> This one was sold to me as having a "locked" engine, but it seems to run
[16:10:25] <MacGalempsy> do you think the high compression made it appear to be locked?
[16:10:39] <gregcnc> you'll probably find the rod laying in the yard one day
[16:11:00] <malcom2073> MacGalempsy: no, it turned over nice and easy. Wouldn't start at first, because of the missing governor rod though
[16:11:02] <MacGalempsy> gregcnc: what do you think a fair offer would be on this machine? http://fayar.craigslist.org/tls/5907895433.html
[16:11:05] <malcom2073> Haha yeah probably gregcnc
[16:11:09] <gregcnc> air cooled diesels are loud though
[16:11:25] <malcom2073> It is really loud
[16:11:40] <malcom2073> It sounds like a gasoline motor with a bad rod heh
[16:11:49] <malcom2073> The amount if vibrates worries me though
[16:11:58] <malcom2073> That's why I'm still thinking something may be wrong with it
[16:15:33] <MacGalempsy> it seems like the prices that people want for used older equipment is just insanely high. seems like a new grizzley is a better way to go. any thoughts?
[16:15:41] <gregcnc> http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/threads/49689-Buy-Jet-1024-Metal-Lathe-Yes-No
[16:16:04] <gregcnc> just like anything else sometime they don't really know the value
[16:16:21] <MacGalempsy> gregcnc: thanks. was just reading that board.
[16:16:23] <malcom2073> Value is what someone will pay. If they want a lot of money, it won't sell, and eventually their price will drop
[16:16:59] <Deejay> gn8
[16:17:17] <MacGalempsy> there are a couple of people with small central (HF) lathes for under $400. im curious if the tolerances on those machines are the same as the grizzlies
[16:17:55] <gregcnc> getting a really gooddeal means a lot of effort it looking around and plain luck
[16:23:06] <MacGalempsy> its like a 10-24 with a gearbox is pegged at $1800 around here.
[16:23:40] <gregcnc> low availability or high demand
[16:24:15] <MacGalempsy> probably a combo. but I think part of it is they see 1 for that price on CL and so everyone thinks its a fair price
[16:25:03] <MacGalempsy> id really like to just trade a dirtbike or a few guns for something
[16:51:14] <andypugh> So, where can I buy an M3 split die on a bank holiday?
[16:51:54] <DaViruz> tomorrow is a bank holoday in the uk?
[16:52:28] <DaViruz> i guess it is. it didn't sound like a hypothetical question
[16:53:01] <andypugh> Yes, we get a postponed new-year day holiday as that fell on a Sunday.
[16:53:08] <DaViruz> :O
[16:53:34] <DaViruz> does that go for christmas as well?
[16:55:11] <andypugh> Yes
[16:55:31] <andypugh> In fact I haven’t been at work since the 22nd.
[16:55:52] <DaViruz> we got "cheated" on like 4 off-days this december
[16:56:29] <roycroft> it's a bank holiday in the us as well tomorrow
[16:57:01] <DaViruz> that explains why a bunch of ebay sellers says they are away until jan 3
[16:57:05] <roycroft> and while i don't work at a bank, it's a holiday for me
[16:59:59] <DaViruz> a few days ago i tried polising the edge on a hand ground lathe tool, usually i just form them on a course wheel and leave it at that
[17:00:14] <DaViruz> it made quite the difference both in the cutting action and how long the edge held
[17:00:54] <DaViruz> coarse wheel *
[17:01:19] <roycroft> when i was using a lathe regularly i had a little diamond dust honing stick that i kept in my apron pocket
[17:01:29] <roycroft> i'd polish the tool fairly regularly with it
[17:01:43] <pfred1> polishing your tool, are you?
[17:02:02] <roycroft> it definitely makes a difference
[17:02:10] <pfred1> I'm sure it does
[17:02:35] <DaViruz> yeah, thing is the tool dulled quite fast (very small radial grooving tool), and i got tired of taking it out of the holder to regrind it, so i grabbed a diamond hone and sharpened it, and while i had the hone set out i took a fine one and polished it up
[17:02:42] <DaViruz> and i didn't have to touch it again after that
[17:03:43] <DaViruz> hm. maybe not radial grooving. face grooving i suppose would be the correctterm
[18:52:23] <Jymmm> Well, the snow is sticking, more foggy than snowing though.
[19:06:10] <MacGalempsy> no snow here (yet)
[19:10:32] <pfred1> are you ready for some football!
[19:11:27] <MacGalempsy> is there a Cowboys game on?
[19:12:14] <pfred1> Packers and Lions
[19:12:28] <MacGalempsy> now that sounds like a cold game
[19:12:42] <pfred1> if the Pack wins they make the playoffs
[19:14:24] <pfred1> this game got bumped to a night slot its like the biggest game of the season
[19:16:02] <pfred1> they're both 9-6
[19:16:36] <MacGalempsy> such a waste...
[19:17:03] <pfred1> someone's leaving 10-6 and the other one will be 9-7
[19:17:42] <pfred1> this is for all the marbles
[19:24:08] <MacGalempsy> how many marbles, exactly?
[19:24:15] <pfred1> all of them!
[19:24:18] <MacGalempsy> is there a masher?
[19:34:10] <roycroft> what are folks using these days for bobs with mesa anything i/o cards?
[19:34:21] * roycroft researched all this years ago, but knows things have changed
[19:35:34] * SpeedEvil wishes they would stop changing stuff.
[19:36:24] <roycroft> change can be invigorating
[19:36:37] <roycroft> keeps one on one's toes
[19:38:05] <roycroft> i'm leaning very heavily towards doing a cnc retrofit of my mill-drill
[19:38:12] <MacGalempsy> roycroft: all I got is a 5i25 7i77 and 7i84
[19:38:20] <roycroft> and i want to get the cnc bit done first
[19:38:49] <roycroft> so that when i finally tear apart the machine to fit the ball screws etc. i'll be ready to plug in the motors as soon as that part is done
[19:39:01] <MacGalempsy> you may talk to JT or PCW and they can get you lined out
[19:40:34] <roycroft> the 7i77 has optoisolators
[19:40:42] <roycroft> which is my purpose for having a bob
[19:41:11] <roycroft> i'll be using stepper motors for this retrofit, however
[19:41:34] <roycroft> i'll peruse the mesa site a bit more
[19:42:00] <roycroft> i'm trying to come up with budgets for space and money
[19:42:55] <MacGalempsy> a popular board is the Gigabyte J1900N-d3v
[19:43:28] <roycroft> i have a system board
[19:43:33] <roycroft> i bought it some years ago
[19:43:38] <roycroft> based on recommendations here
[19:43:43] <roycroft> i forget what it is though
[19:43:45] <MacGalempsy> between the mesas and the compter, it was about $500-600 for everything
[19:43:56] <roycroft> but it passed the latency tests with flying colors
[19:44:14] <roycroft> i need to go pull that machine out of the rack and figure out what it is again
[19:44:23] <roycroft> as i said, i built it some years ago
[19:44:33] <roycroft> but i'm pretty sure it has an ssd
[19:44:45] <roycroft> i don't know how much ran offhand - whatever folks recommended
[19:44:49] <roycroft> probably 8GB or 16GB
[19:45:15] <roycroft> i have serveral 17" elo touchscreens
[19:45:22] <roycroft> all tested with touchy, and all work fine
[19:46:05] <MacGalempsy> i got an elo but getting it to calibrate has been a pita
[19:46:18] <roycroft> mine worked fine
[19:46:21] <MacGalempsy> its probably a lack of understanding on my end
[19:46:24] <roycroft> tap the corners and the center when it asks
[19:46:29] <roycroft> and it's all good
[19:47:52] <MacGalempsy> if it was that easy, it would be done already. xcalibrate for some reason does not work with this monitor
[19:48:11] <MacGalempsy> so tracking down the elo software is next on the agenda
[19:48:26] <roycroft> are you sure it's the software?
[19:48:35] <roycroft> could it be the touchscreen controller?
[19:49:32] <roycroft> i was doing some kiosk development stuff back in the '90s, using elo crts and bsd/os
[19:49:53] <roycroft> they were great to work with when we were working on the driver for bsd/os
[19:50:00] <MacGalempsy> before adding the software, the touch would work, but not calibrated. and on an older version, it was working after figuring out the ELO setup
[19:50:20] <roycroft> sounds like the software then
[19:50:39] <MacGalempsy> but on linuxmint, I tried to use xcalibrate and when the targets came up and got touched, an error came up
[19:51:46] <pfred1> linux mint is kind of low quality
[19:52:20] <MacGalempsy> all I know is once I got the 64bit OS up and running, several issues I had went away
[19:52:45] <MacGalempsy> so low or whatever, it is working now and doesnt freeze up when the screensaver kicks in
[19:52:51] <pfred1> their maintainers are less than meticulous
[19:53:04] <pfred1> especially with 32 bit which i hear is going away
[19:53:22] <roycroft> so they used to intern at microsoft, eh?
[19:53:54] <pfred1> more like they're workign their way up to intern at Microsoft
[19:54:04] <MacGalempsy> lol\
[19:54:06] <XXCoder> JT-Shop: yo'
[19:54:15] <XXCoder> JT-Pi3:
[19:57:24] <roycroft> i've decided to make my control panel modular
[19:57:34] <roycroft> because i am not sure what kind of controls i want to put on it
[20:03:32] <Mac-Phone> that sounds like a good plan
[20:14:03] <roycroft> well that's weird
[20:14:10] <roycroft> it's a 1.8GHz atom processor
[20:14:13] <roycroft> 4GB of ram
[20:14:26] <roycroft> hopefully that's enough because there's no more room for memory expansion
[20:14:40] <roycroft> but the weird bit is that there's a sata drive installed with winxp on it
[20:14:47] <roycroft> i have no idea why that is the case
[20:15:36] <roycroft> i figured it would have an old version of linuxcnc running on ubuntu
[20:15:48] <roycroft> oh well, i want an ssd for the machine anyway
[20:25:41] <Mac-Phone> from what i understand, the chip on the mesa will do most of the work
[20:27:25] <roycroft> yes
[20:27:35] <roycroft> i bought this board before i was considering mesa boards
[20:31:26] <roycroft> enterprise ssds have come way down in price
[20:31:39] <roycroft> even just in the last few weeks
[20:33:43] <roycroft> i bought some 128GB ssds in september and paid $149 each for them
[20:33:48] <roycroft> the same drives are now $97
[20:46:19] <Mac-Phone> are they still in the boxes? any chance for returns?
[20:52:27] <roycroft> no, they're in service
[20:52:56] <roycroft> those were for work
[20:53:12] <roycroft> i'm glad they're less expensive now because i need one for personal use
[21:29:13] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3Rq-ubQ-18 pretty awesome
[21:43:58] <R2E4> good evening
[21:44:03] <R2E4> or mornng
[21:49:22] <BeachBumPete> Evening ;)
[21:49:30] <R2E4> Hey Pete
[21:49:34] <XXCoder> hey bum
[21:49:46] <BeachBumPete> howzitgoin guys
[21:50:01] <R2E4> Good, head over heals in this retrofit
[21:50:09] <BeachBumPete> heh me too
[21:50:17] <R2E4> Your Lathe?
[21:50:27] <BeachBumPete> yeah slowly working on it
[21:50:38] <BeachBumPete> when I am not out Kayak fishing anyway ;)
[21:53:12] <R2E4> I have over 150 I/o on this machine
[21:53:30] <BeachBumPete> what machine
[21:53:49] <R2E4> 5i25-7i77 7i74-2x7i71 and 7i70
[21:54:27] <R2E4> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/32002-biesse-rover-346-retrofit
[21:55:02] <R2E4> 19 ft long, 22,000 lbs.... lol
[21:55:17] <R2E4> 32 spindles
[21:57:44] <Tom_L> if it's working why are you converting it?
[21:58:46] <R2E4> Proprietory floppy format, only can handle like 500 K gcode, need to buy converter to format floppy, the list is long
[21:59:01] <R2E4> cant drip feed
[21:59:02] <XXCoder> you sold off old hardware?
[21:59:13] <R2E4> I have the old control
[22:00:00] <R2E4> The control and input boards is the only thing I am taking out. The relay boards will work directly with the 7i77
[22:01:40] <R2E4> I have everything mapped out and a plan on how to attack. Started today.
[22:02:56] <R2E4> The tricky part will be all the spindles and ofsets
[22:06:27] <R2E4> I am still a bit confused with the 7i77 VIN and field power split
[22:07:03] <R2E4> If I change the jumper and add 24vdc to VIN and pin 8, then do I connect the other power source to pin 8 and field power?