#linuxcnc | Logs for 2016-12-23

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[02:24:08] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj1eUXvgmLU
[02:24:11] <XXCoder> pretty brilliant
[02:44:18] <Deejay> moin
[04:47:32] <TurBoss> hello!
[04:47:52] <XXCoder> hey
[05:16:29] <jthornton> morning
[05:18:43] <jthornton> log
[05:18:43] <c-log> jthornton: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:82/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2016-12-23.html
[05:19:09] <XXCoder> hey jthornton
[05:19:17] <jthornton> what's up
[05:20:42] <XXCoder> had a random hard lock on xfce mint, figuring how to find what happened
[05:21:25] <jthornton> I've only briefly looked as xfce
[05:22:58] <jthornton> that was a lot of work when this is only $30 http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-18-in-Magnetic-Sweeper-Pickup-Tool-96397/203507378
[05:24:05] <XXCoder> hmm maybe cant afford that much heh
[05:35:20] <jthornton> those magnets cost that much
[05:35:45] <XXCoder> in least guy didnt alter it
[05:35:53] <XXCoder> so basically just remove anbd use it as usual
[05:38:00] <archivist> but any tools become magnetic and useless after being near
[05:38:43] <XXCoder> can degauss it few ways
[05:38:52] <XXCoder> one of em is simply heat it past curie temperate
[05:43:10] <archivist> lose its hardening/tempering
[05:43:22] <XXCoder> curing temp isnt that hot
[05:43:25] <XXCoder> curie
[05:43:53] <XXCoder> hmm 770c, hotter than what I remembered
[05:44:05] <XXCoder> (steel)
[05:48:29] <XXCoder> degauss should work too
[05:48:29] <Tom_L> jthornton, looks like it made it all night
[05:48:46] <XXCoder> I still have ancient degauss coil from my dad's tv repair business
[05:50:21] <jthornton> I saw that, just a few tweaks now I think
[05:53:11] <gonzo_> my old man did that for decades too. They had a quite frightening coil. Two man job, as one of them had to hold the mains trips in whilst the other held the coil, on the end of the broom handle, to the TV
[05:53:50] <XXCoder> heh mines pretty small. foot across. sure gives a magnetic kick though
[05:54:21] <Tom_L> jthornton, will it build the year logs now too?
[05:54:22] <XXCoder> my dad was one of fairly rare ones.
[05:54:25] <XXCoder> deaf business owner
[05:54:42] <XXCoder> he used to repair tvs for a living, when it was worth it and it had tubes
[05:55:11] <jthornton> Tom_L: do you mean more than one year? yes
[05:55:21] <Tom_L> i'll test that now
[05:55:24] <archivist> I was a radio and TV engineer too
[05:58:56] <XXCoder> arch cool
[05:59:10] <XXCoder> if my dad was still among the living, he'd be 90
[06:00:15] <archivist> about 1960 when I joined the trade as apprentice
[06:00:22] <archivist> 1969
[06:01:23] <XXCoder> I just wish I asked more about his history
[06:01:43] <XXCoder> from what books we have from his collection, he tried to get job in so many places.
[06:01:57] <XXCoder> one things for sure he used to be shoe polisher as we have ancient kit
[06:02:16] <Tom_L> will i need to restart the bot to build the index's?
[06:02:26] <XXCoder> so far we know his last attempt was IT type work, I guess he was tired of being retired that time
[06:04:21] <XXCoder> archivist: one of my favorite and few I know about was his successful attempt to work at navy boat for ww2
[06:11:20] <jthornton> it rebuilds the index each day
[06:12:02] <Tom_L> that could take a whle
[06:12:04] <Tom_L> while
[06:12:39] <Tom_L> still hasn't built all of #avr
[06:13:13] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:82/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/index.html
[06:15:16] <jthornton> it should not take long to rebuild the index
[06:15:46] <Tom_L> it took from when it rejoined to when i said that for it to finish
[06:16:14] <Tom_L> actually i had restarted it a while before it rejoined
[06:16:43] <Tom_L> expect a lag at midnight :)
[06:17:05] <jthornton> I have join leave turned off so I don't see them
[06:17:33] <Tom_L> you don't see the extra logs now?
[06:18:56] <Tom_L> looks like it did it ok though
[06:19:30] <jthornton> I see back to 2012
[06:19:54] <Tom_L> that's probably as far back as they go
[06:20:03] <XXCoder> mines mixed, I see join and leaves as long as guy didnt leave and joinb more than 3 times without saying anything
[06:20:10] <XXCoder> I made my own script for that
[06:20:29] <Tom_L> the bot changed a bit along the way if you're looking far back
[06:20:48] <Tom_L> i removed join/part during it's logging
[06:21:50] <Tom_L> the new log urls aren't clickable anymore
[06:22:01] <Tom_L> i thought they were supposed to open in a new window
[06:22:55] <jthornton> new logs not clickable?
[06:23:05] <jthornton> todays log clicked
[06:23:22] <Tom_L> the links that get logged
[06:23:31] <jthornton> ah
[06:24:12] <Tom_L> k, i'm off for a while
[06:24:15] <TurBoss> log
[06:24:15] <c-log> TurBoss: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:82/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2016-12-23.html
[06:24:19] <jthornton> they would need to be wrapped in tag
[06:24:20] <TurBoss> nice!
[06:24:31] <TurBoss> !log
[06:24:43] <jthornton> I added some class tags
[06:25:02] <Tom_L> i'll copy the css over later today
[06:25:22] <Tom_L> still using the old ones
[06:54:21] <jthornton> index
[06:54:22] <jtlog> jthornton: The #linuxcnc index http://gnipsel.com/logs/%23linuxcnc/index.html
[06:54:49] <jthornton> Tom_L: I added a new command to get the channel index
[06:55:23] <tiwake> ponies
[06:58:08] <Wolf_> whats all this log stuff…
[07:11:09] <archivist> bookmark
[07:11:09] <the_wench> yet another log is at http://emclog.archivist.info/
[07:11:12] <archivist> :)
[07:11:25] <XXCoder> there is logs of logs yet?
[07:11:55] <archivist> !seen jtlog
[07:11:55] <the_wench> last seen in 2016-12-23 12:22:42GMT 00:17:23 ago, saying Client Quit
[07:12:16] <archivist> so yes
[07:12:42] <XXCoder> one bot I wish exists here is kthx, can add answers to whatever? word or words
[07:13:13] <archivist> db
[07:13:13] <the_wench> http://www.wench.archivist.info/index.php?chan=%23linuxcnc
[07:13:39] <XXCoder> yawn?
[07:13:49] <archivist> yawn
[07:13:49] <the_wench> wake up archivist
[07:13:57] <XXCoder> beer
[07:13:57] <the_wench> I am not your waitress!
[07:14:23] <XXCoder> the_wench: the_wench is awesome
[07:14:35] <XXCoder> guess thats not add method
[07:15:23] <XXCoder> kthx is pretty simple, must do kthx: (something) is (answer)
[07:16:11] <archivist> it learns in a similar but different manner
[07:17:45] <Wolf_> being able to feed canned answers is nice
[07:18:08] <Wolf_> but no one asks simple questions
[07:18:18] <XXCoder> Wolf_: its great for quick reference
[07:19:17] <Wolf_> well, yeah, like in reprap, when half of the “why my thing won’t print right” is calibration?
[07:19:33] <archivist> if the manual was built the right way I would sort out the !man command for it
[07:19:38] <XXCoder> heh I have used print calibration? so many times
[07:19:53] <XXCoder> for others
[07:20:10] <Wolf_> yeah
[07:20:20] <Wolf_> I ignore the simple questions lol
[07:50:05] <Tom_L> log
[07:50:05] <c-log> Tom_L: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:82/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2016-12-23.html
[07:50:30] <Tom_L> index
[07:50:30] <c-log> Tom_L: The #linuxcnc index http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:82/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/index.html
[07:53:20] <Tom_L> goes to the index page if the log is empty ehh?
[07:53:47] <Tom_L> later..
[08:01:58] <jthornton> I thought that was an appropriate response if nothing had been logged yet
[08:35:45] <Jymmmm> c-log: Zero, zero, zero. Destruct. Zero.
[08:35:46] <c-log> Jymmmm: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:82/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2016-12-23.html
[08:35:54] <Jymmmm> dumb bot
[08:42:54] <_methods> ddate
[08:43:03] <_methods> dumb bot
[08:43:19] <Jymmm> is that like Death Date?
[08:45:26] <_methods> yold date
[08:51:00] <Jymmm> ?
[08:52:06] <tiwake> _methods: I love you
[08:53:57] <Jymmm> GET A ROOM
[08:54:23] <tiwake> Jymmm: he hasent loved me back yet
[08:54:39] <Jymmm> tiwake: He love you long time!
[08:55:08] <tiwake> emphasis on long
[08:55:13] <Jymmm> tiwake: and what you think the room is for?
[08:55:53] <tiwake> Jymmm: also, I am in the #linuxcnc room... the best place I can think of to house all my loving needs
[08:56:07] <Jymmm> thats a channel, not a room
[08:56:36] <tiwake> tomato tomahto
[08:59:51] <tiwake> also, today is a payed day off... I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do
[09:01:04] <_methods> http://www.neatorama.com/2016/12/22/A-Blood-Curdling-Collection-Of-Scary-Snowmen/
[09:01:06] <Jymmm> nothing
[09:01:27] <_methods> sorry was surfin da web
[09:01:33] * _methods loves back
[09:01:41] <tiwake> eee
[09:01:51] <_methods> http://twentytwowords.com/these-horror-snowmen-will-turn-your-holidays-dreams-into-nightmares/
[09:01:52] <_methods> hehe
[09:02:09] <tiwake> HA
[09:02:23] <tiwake> now I know _methods loves me based on the images being shared
[09:04:24] <_methods> schweet boss just gave me a bottle of fireball
[09:04:30] <_methods> time to get drunk
[09:04:38] <tiwake> I got a $150 check
[09:04:49] <tiwake> meh
[09:05:01] <Jymmm> tiwake: Share this https://www.google.com/images?q=vomit
[09:05:03] <tiwake> though, I havent been working there that long
[09:05:47] <tiwake> Jymmm: oh, thanks for reminding me... one of these days I'm going to CNC engrave a pumpkin
[09:06:23] <gregcnc> we need cnc snowman printer
[09:06:41] <tiwake> could do ice easier... hmm
[09:06:59] <archivist> cnc print money
[09:07:09] <tiwake> archivist: what do you think money is?
[09:07:44] <archivist> something I have gone without for too long
[09:07:59] <tiwake> heh
[09:09:03] <gregcnc> or an automated pancake line the starts the instant my kids get up
[09:09:38] <gregcnc> experiment for the day: one pan size pancake
[09:09:48] <tiwake> now I'm thinking about how to make a rapid prototyping machine for ice
[09:10:29] <gregcnc> you just need to figure out how to consistently pump supercooled water and it can be FDM
[09:10:40] <tiwake> right
[09:11:13] <tiwake> well, mostly right... might not need to be supercooled? but the transition in temp needs to be very small
[09:12:08] <tiwake> probably would require distilled water
[09:13:57] <_methods> http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/santacon-idiots-plunder-neighborhood-pub-afternoon-rampage-article-1.2908351
[09:13:59] <_methods> lol
[09:14:01] <_methods> merry xmas
[09:14:55] <tiwake> new york?
[09:15:02] <_methods> but of course
[09:15:05] <_methods> santacon
[09:15:12] <tiwake> screw new york
[09:15:35] <tiwake> the closer people get to eachother the stupider they get
[09:16:01] <gregcnc> well flipping it took 2 spatula (spatulae?, spatulii?) but I have saved a lot of standin around flipping pancakes.
[09:16:32] <tiwake> hmmmmmm
[09:17:13] <tiwake> ice based rapid prototyping machine will be interesting because of the expansion from the transition from water to ice
[09:17:19] <tiwake> 30% or so isnt it?
[09:28:21] <Jymmmm> This is the stupidest thing ever: Bluetooth gun lock/alert https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmaryGfR-Rc
[09:43:47] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: oh I don't know about that. Stupid has no limits.
[09:45:16] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: This is true, ok, one of the stupidist things ever
[09:49:38] <tiwake> CaptHindsight: we have archived records for that very thing
[09:49:48] <tiwake> CaptHindsight: they are called the darwin awards
[10:07:27] <SpeedEvil> It's not wholly stupid for some use-cases, and is probably more secure than some gun safes.
[10:07:44] <SpeedEvil> That's not saying that much though.
[10:10:50] <CaptHindsight> https://www.quora.com/If-you-got-paid-250-000-year-but-had-to-sit-in-a-cube-and-do-nothing-for-10-hours-a-day-would-you-do-it
[10:11:43] <CaptHindsight> sure, I'd sleep at the office
[10:11:54] <gregcnc> i did that, even working on my own projects, i could only handle 8 weeks, but it wasn't 250k/yr
[10:12:57] <gregcnc> young and dumb, would handle it differntly now
[10:15:13] <SpeedEvil> Some of these are hilarious.
[10:15:16] <SpeedEvil> https://www.quora.com/What-education-skill-sets-and-type-of-business-would-one-need-to-be-in-to-go-from-250-000-to-10-million-in-ten-years
[10:15:26] <SpeedEvil> 'a fuckton of luck'
[10:16:55] <cradek> how cute that someone thinks you get rich by getting an education and a job
[10:18:04] <archivist> jobs never got me rich
[10:19:45] <archivist> you have to be in the right place have the right idea that the idiots will buy in the millions
[10:27:36] <tiwake> archivist: and it has to be just as idiotic as they are for them to buy it
[10:28:11] <archivist> or shiny and expensive
[10:28:47] <gregcnc> there are customers for everything. not understanding the market is the biggest problem
[10:29:15] <tiwake> "Debian developers are currently weighing the prospects of enabling automatic updates on new Debian GNU/Linux installations by default."
[10:29:33] <cradek> arguing bitterly about, probably
[10:29:48] <tiwake> kill it before it grows
[12:25:39] <sector_0> Hey
[12:26:27] <sector_0> I'm working on a project and I need something to the effect of a large diameter bearing
[12:28:16] <tiwake> sector_0: lathe or mill or EDM or what?
[12:28:24] <sector_0> The mechanism need to ensure minimum axial (~4lbs) and radial (~2lbs) load
[12:28:49] <sector_0> s/ensure/endure
[12:29:02] <tiwake> you want a machine then? not a tool?
[12:29:27] <tiwake> I exhale with more than 2lbs of force
[12:29:28] <sector_0> Would a lazy Susan bearing suffice?
[12:30:00] <sector_0> tiwake: what you mean "a machine not a tool"?
[12:30:14] <tiwake> this is true, a machine is a tool in a way
[12:30:31] <tiwake> I mean machine tooling
[12:30:45] <tiwake> like a boring bar, an endmill, or whatever
[12:31:35] <tiwake> sector_0: I'm going to stop you right now and say that whatever you are asking is probably above your current capabilities
[12:32:36] <sector_0> What?
[12:32:49] <sector_0> I'm not sure we're on the same page here
[12:32:58] <tiwake> _methods: hey, I think you made a new friend
[12:33:36] <sector_0> I asking if a lazy Susan bearing is sufficient for the load I stated
[12:33:43] <gregcnc> maybe
[12:33:48] <sector_0> What does that have to do with machining parts?
[12:34:45] <gregcnc> if accuracy is not a factor, it should be fine
[12:34:55] <_methods> wut?
[12:35:29] <tiwake> _methods: you have a friends list you keep with your IRC client, right?
[12:35:38] <tiwake> XD
[12:35:41] <_methods> nope
[12:35:46] <tiwake> yeah you do
[12:35:49] <tiwake> I know you do
[12:35:51] <_methods> oh lol
[12:35:59] <_methods> yeah it must be someone on my friends list then
[12:36:17] <gregcnc> i mst have missed this one
[12:36:35] <tiwake> haha... took _methods a bit to get it too I see
[12:36:58] <_methods> zlog
[12:37:29] <_methods> oh nm now i have no idea what you are talking about lol
[12:37:43] <tiwake> _methods: your ignore list is your friends list
[12:38:09] <_methods> i thought you were saying someone on my /ignore was in here talking smack or something
[12:38:34] <tiwake> oh no, well maybe... I was suggesting adding to your friends list though
[12:38:55] <_methods> i've only had to ignore like 3 people
[12:39:06] <tiwake> w/e
[12:39:16] <tiwake> it was funny 3 minutes ago
[12:40:19] <_methods> i don't know why i turn my soldering iron off
[12:40:31] <_methods> as soon as i turn it off i have to use it again always for some reason
[12:40:34] <tiwake> leave it on all the time in case of attackers?
[12:40:52] <tiwake> branding engraving
[12:40:56] <tiwake> sounds good to me
[12:41:11] <tiwake> also
[12:41:27] <gregcnc> Usually I return to my soldering iron months later and fine the switch on, fortunately it's smart and shuts off
[12:41:38] <tiwake> sector_0: in your first statement you said bearing, for some reason I thought you said boring :-x
[12:42:10] <sector_0> gregcnc: no accuracy isn't necessary I just need rotational movements
[12:42:27] <_methods> mine is supposed to auto shutoff too but it's been misbehaving lately
[12:42:49] <sector_0> tiwake: heh happens sometimes no biggy
[12:43:35] <tiwake> sector_0: how large is the shaft?
[12:45:27] <sector_0> tiwake: about 200mm in diameter
[12:45:38] <sector_0> Shaft is hollow
[12:46:12] <sector_0> Shaft is stationary
[12:46:31] <tiwake> I should hope so
[12:46:50] <gregcnc> it could be made of styrofoam...
[12:47:12] <sector_0> So the ~2lbs radial load is acting on the outer bearing ring
[12:47:13] <tiwake> styrofoam is hollow...
[12:47:39] <gregcnc> link to bearing?
[12:48:19] <sector_0> gregcnc: well I don't have a specific product in mind
[12:48:36] <sector_0> I'm thinking about going with a generic lazy Susan bearing
[12:49:10] <tiwake> so it must not rotate very fast or be very heavy?
[12:49:10] <gregcnc> http://www.vxb.com/1000-lbs-Capacity-12-Lazy-Susan-5-16-Thick-p/kit8999.htm
[12:49:11] <sector_0> A slew bearing would be ideal but they are too expensive for my projecr
[12:49:21] <sector_0> Project*
[12:49:44] <gregcnc> http://www.vxb.com/200mm-Lazy-Susan-Aluminum-Bearing-Turntable-p/kit12879.htm
[12:50:19] <sector_0> The second one looks like the ones I were looking at on ebay
[12:52:06] <sector_0> Also the mechanism rotates at about 120rpm
[12:54:13] <gregcnc> for that money try it
[12:54:32] <gregcnc> anything else will be an order of magnitude in $$
[12:55:01] <sector_0> Yeah I've looked at slew rings and those things are insanely expensive
[12:55:27] <sector_0> With good reason I guess *shrug*
[12:55:38] <gregcnc> there are a few options if you ever need to make a real product
[12:56:11] <sector_0> gregcnc: like?
[12:56:51] <gregcnc> thin race bearings, wire race bearings
[13:01:52] <AndChat|153225> gregcnc: how practical is it to machine these?
[13:02:44] <AndChat|153225> I personal don't have the resources to machine them but would it be practical to machine them?
[13:03:01] <pfred1> machine what?
[13:03:03] <gregcnc> those aluminum ones are probably machined
[13:03:40] <AndChat|153225> gregcnc: I'm referring to machining instead of buying
[13:03:58] <gregcnc> for $17, you must be nuts
[13:04:17] <pfred1> I donno
[13:04:31] <pfred1> that's how I felt wit hthe electronics i just got
[13:04:52] <pfred1> but now i have some kind of a freaky Chinesium problem with it all
[13:05:30] <AndChat|153225> gregcnc: lol no the thin race bearings
[13:05:45] <AndChat|153225> Because I'm seeing upwards of USD$100
[13:06:04] <AndChat|153225> And that's for a 50mm one
[13:06:13] <gregcnc> exactly as i said order of magnitude
[13:06:33] <gregcnc> i've actually worked with and looked at some of the stuff I talk about
[13:06:44] <AndChat|153225> Oh ok
[13:07:14] <gregcnc> the rest is made up on the spot, you get to figure it out
[13:09:08] <AndChat|153225> Anyways there's something i'm not entirely clear about though...when talking about radial load if I have 2lbs attached to one side of a bearing how that compare to have a balanced load (I.e. having another 2lb load attached to the opposite side)
[13:12:20] <gregcnc> when the bearing is rated for several hundred pounds, 2lb here or there isn't much to worry about
[13:12:22] <pfred1> AndChat|153225 the answer is clearly 42
[13:13:44] <AndChat|153225> gregcnc: I suspect so, I'm asking for general clarification
[13:14:20] <gregcnc> it gets complicated
[13:26:42] <JT-Shop> log
[13:26:42] <c-log> JT-Shop: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:82/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2016-12-23.html
[13:34:34] <Tom_L> i agree that's the proper response
[13:37:43] <JT-Shop> you can also get the index by asking for it
[13:37:45] <JT-Shop> index
[13:37:45] <c-log> JT-Shop: The #linuxcnc index http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:82/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/index.html
[13:38:02] <Tom_L> saw that
[13:39:09] <JT-Shop> just need to add the link when someone says http://somelink.extnsion
[13:39:36] <Tom_L> to show the link in a new page?
[13:40:39] <Tom_L> i can test later if you get something
[13:40:42] <Tom_L> later...
[13:42:34] <JT-Shop> yea
[13:43:04] <JT-Shop> work on it in the morning
[14:04:10] <pfred1> I can't figure out how I am going to to troubleshoot my missing steps problem I'm having after my upgrade here
[15:28:10] <pfred1> I'm getting a bad plot with my new motor drives the left is the new drives, and the right is my old drives http://i.imgur.com/vVdcSLx.jpg
[15:28:33] <pfred1> same G code file of course
[15:30:35] <JT-Shop> same drives?
[15:30:48] <pfred1> JT-Shop no i changed drives and PSU
[15:30:57] <pfred1> I'm kinda pissed now too
[15:31:17] <pfred1> this is not the upgrade I was hoping for
[15:31:29] <JT-Shop> new drives have different timings?
[15:31:51] <pfred1> yes
[15:31:55] <pfred1> better timingsi n fact
[15:32:09] <pfred1> 2300ns I have them set at 3000ns
[15:32:19] <pfred1> my old drives were 5000ns
[15:32:41] <pfred1> when I run stepconf the drives run strong
[15:32:46] <JT-Shop> both drives step on the rising edge?
[15:32:52] <pfred1> they're not running anywhere near their limit either
[15:33:01] <pfred1> it is driving me crazy!
[15:33:21] <JT-Shop> what kind of drive?
[15:33:22] <pfred1> I thought about that too nope new drives are falling edge so I changed that
[15:33:49] <pfred1> they're the Chinese TB6600s
[15:33:53] <JT-Shop> hmm, have to refer you up the ladder lol
[15:34:16] <pfred1> yeah I thought that invertign the step signal was going to fix them
[15:34:30] <pfred1> I was like that's it!
[15:34:34] <pfred1> it wasn't :(
[15:35:02] * JT-Shop hugs his gecko drives and I have some TB6 something drives that I play with
[15:35:13] * JT-Shop goes to unload the van
[15:35:19] <pfred1> yeah geckos are too rich for my blood
[15:35:49] <pfred1> I'm going to have to abandon this whole upgrade and jsut go back to my old drives i guess
[15:35:55] <RootB> I need to get some geckos
[15:35:59] <pfred1> they weren't great but they worked
[15:35:59] <RootB> and stop using grbl and chinkshit
[15:36:28] <pfred1> I might make some drives myself basedo n these ICs
[15:36:44] <pfred1> but yeah these Chinese boards got issues I'm afraid things i cna't iron out of them
[15:36:58] <gregcnc> you're sure it's losing steps?
[15:37:15] <pfred1> OK check this out http://i.imgur.com/Sw0wgwF.jpg
[15:37:27] <pfred1> look at the Cs where the lines don't meet up
[15:37:37] <pfred1> the whole logo is distorted
[15:37:42] <pfred1> something is going on
[15:38:13] <gregcnc> have you checked backlash, couplings, etc.
[15:38:25] <pfred1> none of that changed and it used to work
[15:38:35] <gregcnc> dfamous last words
[15:38:45] <pfred1> though while i was beating on the machien maybe the cupligs loosened up?
[15:39:05] <gregcnc> been the right answer here more than once
[15:39:09] <pfred1> because i did put it through its paces with the new drives to see what they'd do
[15:39:54] <pfred1> I'll see if the couplings have got loose I only use rubber hose
[15:40:30] <pfred1> so they can get whipped out
[15:41:52] <pfred1> what gets me is the machine runs fine in stepconf it is just whne I'm running the interface and a job that it seems to fall down
[15:42:26] <pfred1> you know i do the +- run deal in stapconf and it returns where it started
[15:42:34] <pfred1> stepcopnf even
[15:43:06] <pfred1> but running a job in axis there's definitely issues then
[15:44:01] <pfred1> so that's got me thinking to negative interactions between the machine axis while they're all running
[15:44:33] <pfred1> like maybe the PSU can't supply current to more than one drive at a time?
[15:45:25] <gregcnc> PSU V/A
[15:45:28] <gregcnc> ?
[15:45:52] <pfred1> I changed it when i did the drive upgrade it is a Chinese SMPS supposedly capable of 10 amps
[15:46:11] <pfred1> these drives can't draw more than 2.5 amps a piece
[15:46:48] <pfred1> so that's still got me thinking if that PSU can't do what it claims it can
[15:47:13] <pfred1> chinese stuff often makes big claims that it can't quite deliver on
[15:48:05] <pfred1> that PSU may be kind of not quite making it all the way to the 7, or 8 amps I need to run
[15:48:57] <JT-Shop> pfred1: have you ran the stepper test G code?
[15:49:06] <pfred1> it is arcs where the machien seems to struggle when 2 drives are running at the same time
[15:49:29] <pfred1> JT-Shop I don't know what that is
[15:49:32] <pfred1> so no
[15:49:40] <JT-Shop> it's in the documents
[15:49:54] <pfred1> it is called stepper test g code?
[15:50:09] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/config/stepper-diagnostics.html#_testing
[15:50:20] <pfred1> ah a link
[15:50:26] <pfred1> saves me from googling it
[15:50:40] <JT-Shop> prob quicker for me to find it lol
[15:50:58] <pfred1> believe me i was on google's page when you posted
[15:51:22] <JT-Shop> do a site search when looking for linuxcnc info
[15:52:03] <pfred1> this is kind of the same thing as stepconf's run button though
[15:52:04] <JT-Shop> opps I see an rebranding that slipped through
[15:52:29] <JT-Shop> well yea and no, you could make circles, run more than one axis etc
[15:52:47] <pfred1> I can just let the run button run back and forth 200 times then click it off
[15:53:23] <pfred1> yeah I was goign to make a test file of circles because that seems to be a trouble spot
[15:53:51] <pfred1> when i ran stepconf a single axis runs great
[15:53:58] <pfred1> that's what's killing me
[15:54:20] <pfred1> the machine works great until i try to run a job on it then not so good
[15:54:46] <JT-Shop> even if you run at a slower speed?
[15:54:57] <pfred1> everything I saw that lead up to actually running a jb lead me to believe that everything was going fine
[15:55:07] <pfred1> man the linuxcnc logo plot is so slow
[15:55:17] <pfred1> if it ran any slower it'd be suckign ink off the page
[15:57:09] <pfred1> each axis test runs easily to 90 IPM or better
[15:57:29] <pfred1> heck I had my X axis running almost 200 IPM at one point
[15:58:13] <pfred1> I htink the LinuxCNC logo plot is maybe 10 IPM?
[15:59:02] <pfred1> it seems pretty conservative to me
[16:00:31] <pfred1> if speed is an issue I'm taking my machine outside pourng a can of gas on it, and lighting it up
[16:01:19] <pfred1> least then it'll give me the satisfaction of a cheery blaze
[16:02:41] <JT-Shop> just put the old drives back in...
[16:03:20] <pfred1> I think I might swap out the PSU first
[16:03:27] <pfred1> it's easer
[16:03:29] <pfred1> easier
[16:03:47] <pfred1> and it just might be the problem too
[16:04:04] <JT-Shop> better than torching it
[16:04:16] <pfred1> yeah I'm not quite there yet but the year is young yet
[16:04:42] <pfred1> with this upgrade i painted myself into a bit of a corner
[16:04:56] <pfred1> I don't know if my old drives will fit into my new case
[16:05:02] <pfred1> in fact I'm pretty sure they won't
[16:05:28] <pfred1> I know the PSU ain't going in there either but i can put the PSU outside
[16:06:08] <pfred1> I really like these new drives
[16:07:06] <pfred1> the more I'm sitting here thinking about it the more I'm thinking the PSu isn't keeping up
[16:07:24] * JT-Shop gets his 5 o`clock beer and heads out to the new shop to work on the wood stove
[16:20:17] <Jymmmm> JT-Shop: Still?
[16:20:49] <Jymmmm> JT-Shop: I thought you would have the elctrical all done by now ;)
[16:28:47] <Deejay> gn8
[17:33:46] <JT-Shop2> XXCoder: I think I figured out what was wonky on the printer, the left hand Z screw was out of alignment and as Z went down you could see it move over at the top
[17:34:11] <XXCoder> wow
[17:34:22] <XXCoder> I got lucky, never had that issue
[17:37:12] <JT-Shop2> yea it is kinda weird but I was homing Z and kinda sitting back in the chair and saw the left screw move in...
[17:38:54] * JT-Shop2 calls it a night, the rain is getting heavier so time to run inside so I don't float off
[17:49:04] <XXCoder> carrie had a heart attack, big one :(
[17:49:11] <XXCoder> actor for leia