#linuxcnc | Logs for 2016-12-13

[02:23:25] <Deejay> moin
[05:25:46] <jthornton> morning
[05:28:26] <XXCoder> hey
[05:43:07] <Tom_L> whassup?
[05:44:40] <nubcake> yo
[05:44:45] <nubcake> :D
[05:45:42] <Tom_L> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1964013
[05:46:37] <Deejay> heya
[05:47:06] <XXCoder> pretty cool
[05:56:18] <nubcake> ot: anyone got an idea why my ubuntu doesn't let me connect to mysql from a class-c network ? (already did set the % in the host field in the mysql.user table and flush privileges)
[05:56:55] <XXCoder> maybe check into user access
[05:58:05] <nubcake> XXCoder: where?
[05:58:19] <XXCoder> hmm a second
[05:58:28] <nubcake> sure :)
[05:58:38] <XXCoder> ah yes
[05:58:49] <XXCoder> hmm a sec finding command now
[05:58:53] <archivist> user@host, remove anon user
[05:59:10] <XXCoder> groups (user)
[05:59:14] <XXCoder> see if theres mysql there
[05:59:28] <archivist> not system problem
[05:59:50] <nubcake> well i also tried connecting with root, shouldn't that be possible if root gets the % in "host" ?
[06:00:28] <archivist> look at the error message itself for clue
[06:02:15] <nubcake> navicat(windows) says: can't connect to mysql server on 192.blah (10061) linux logs don't show a thing
[06:02:31] <XXCoder> lets do something stupid fitst
[06:02:31] <nubcake> port/ip stuff is correct though
[06:02:35] <XXCoder> ping that ip address
[06:02:44] <nubcake> works
[06:03:04] <XXCoder> okay sometimes its olvious thing that gets missed lol
[06:03:09] <XXCoder> is mysql running?
[06:03:12] <nubcake> Antwort von Bytes=32 Zeit<1ms TTL=64 (Answer from)
[06:03:15] <nubcake> yes it is
[06:03:17] <nubcake> ps aux shows it
[06:03:29] <XXCoder> okay end of basics
[06:03:35] <XXCoder> rest i dunno
[06:03:42] <nubcake> same here lol
[06:03:42] <archivist> mysql does a reverse lookup it often fails
[06:03:59] <nubcake> it does?
[06:04:02] <archivist> can be disabled
[06:04:03] <nubcake> aw crap..
[06:04:13] <nubcake> that might be the issue, my host is rejecting pings and stuff
[06:09:53] <nubcake> damn :( didn't work either
[06:27:25] <archivist> what is the error message from the remote trying to connect
[06:30:08] <nubcake> 2003 - Can't connect to MySQL server on 'lan.ip.add.res' (10061)
[06:30:22] <nubcake> well lan ip obviously the lan ip of the box ^^
[06:30:59] <nubcake> client trying to connect to the server is Navicat Lite (on windows)
[06:31:25] <archivist> so the port is not open
[06:31:36] <XXCoder> that or firewall
[06:32:00] <nubcake> i set iptables to allow the port to lan clients
[06:32:09] <nubcake> no firewall on the windows client
[06:34:05] <archivist> the default install does not listen on some distros, see my.cnf
[06:40:11] <nubcake> it seems to listen, rebooted the box once more gonna check on netstat -alpen
[06:42:21] <nubcake> tcp 0 0* LISTEN 107 17702 1427/mysqld
[06:42:38] <nubcake> so it tries to listen on both localhost and all interfaces? or am i seeing that wrong?
[06:43:41] <archivist> all interfaces by default
[06:44:03] <nubcake> it was bound to localhost in my.cnf, i changed that to the lan ip
[06:51:22] <nubcake> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State User Inode PID/Program name
[06:51:22] <nubcake> tcp 0 0* LISTEN 107 16153 -
[06:51:42] <nubcake> i don't get it tbh.. :(
[06:51:56] <nubcake> is it listening on localhost or on the (all interfaces)
[07:03:12] <pink_vampire> hi
[07:05:32] <archivist> nubcake, localhost is a socket, is tcp/ip
[07:09:06] <XXCoder> hey pink
[07:10:08] <nubcake> archivist: idk what was wrong, just re-did the ip-setting part and bound it to the lan ip again, unhashed it in my.cnf, restarted mysqld and rebooted the box, now it works :)
[07:10:10] <archivist> nubcake, if it is bound to the 127 address then it is a single port use for all
[07:10:15] <nubcake> thanks for your help/patience guys (:
[08:02:38] <Jymmmm> nubcake: Think of 127.x.x.x as a loopback, in other words it's listen to the voices in it's head (RED RUM). If you want to ti hear anything outside it's head then a LAN subnet/ip is needed (ears)
[08:08:40] <Jymmm> GRANT ALL ON db1.* TO 'jeffrey'@'localhost';
[08:09:41] <Jymmm> GRANT SELECT ON db1.* TO 'bob'@'';
[08:17:01] <Jymmm> nubcake: https://xkcd.com/327/
[10:19:50] <jackc> anybody used a single phase in, single phase out VFD they'd recommend? i see lots of cheap single phase VFDs for sale, but they all are for driving a three phase motor
[10:21:11] <jdh> not me. what are you driving with it?
[10:21:16] <IchGucksLive> hi
[10:21:25] <archivist> because variable speed single phase motors hardly exist
[10:21:55] <IchGucksLive> jackc: it is mutch easyer to control a 3phase motor
[10:22:09] <IchGucksLive> and it is so cheep on 1Phase in
[10:22:15] <IchGucksLive> 3phase out
[10:23:29] <cradek> jackc: single phase motors have special parts for starting, and they can't just start at any speed. I'm not sure the thing you want exists.
[10:24:13] <cradek> 3 phase motors are better in every way, except being run cheaply on single phase power without a vfd
[10:24:22] <IchGucksLive> jackc: where in trhe world are you Europ USA Asia east
[10:24:23] <cradek> can you replace it?
[10:25:11] <jackc> ah, ok
[10:25:26] <jackc> i was hoping to get away with driving my spingle motor, single phase synchronous ac, with a vfd
[10:25:28] <IchGucksLive> and the VFD is direct wirering to a BOB and controlling at one setup klickon Lcnc
[10:25:30] <sync> cradek: you can just use capacitors to generate the phae offset
[10:25:32] <jackc> but it looks as though thats not a good idea
[10:25:52] <archivist> the capacitor is frequency dependent
[10:25:55] <jackc> if i replace it i figure ill go with a bigass dc motor and treat it just like one of my servos
[10:26:07] <jackc> (i wanna do ridgid tapping)
[10:26:20] <IchGucksLive> jackc: https://www.amazon.de/Lartuer-Frequenzumrichter-Variable-Frequency-CNC-Spindel/dp/B017647CR6
[10:27:01] <IchGucksLive> then you need a god encoeder
[10:27:40] <IchGucksLive> use a 1kw 2880rpm standard pump motor
[10:27:47] <IchGucksLive> cheep and powerfull
[10:27:47] <jdh> does god need quad?
[10:27:53] <jackc> nice hmmm
[10:28:12] <IchGucksLive> and go for a real VFD not this fake ones
[10:28:13] <jackc> yeah i have a 1024 pulse/rev encoder on the spindles
[10:28:14] <jackc> -s
[10:28:15] <skunkworks> You don't need a dc motor to do rigid tapping...
[10:28:26] <jackc> no, i just need variable torque ability
[10:28:47] <jackc> and if i cant vfd the current motor, slapping an hbridge and dc motor on there is pretty simple
[10:28:52] <IchGucksLive> then a Hyanyang may be the best price choce
[10:29:32] <jackc> thanks for the pointers guys
[10:29:53] <IchGucksLive> im off till later
[11:08:27] <MacGalempsy> good day everyone
[11:11:13] <MY`> how about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSHFHCF-7rk
[11:15:47] <CaptHindsight> MY`: monotony at it's finest
[11:18:52] <MacGalempsy> i thought that was your job
[11:20:16] <CaptHindsight> totally kewl mix
[11:27:37] <MacGalempsy> it wouldnt load for me :(
[11:37:55] <MY`> ok.....
[11:59:14] <cradek> sync: that's what a single phase motor does, but it's complicated because the capacitor required to start is different from the one required to run, and it still only works for one speed
[12:47:14] <IchGucksLive> hi
[12:47:33] <IchGucksLive> it is so foggy outside bearly can see the street
[12:50:15] <IchGucksLive> cradek: ?
[12:51:19] <IchGucksLive> i may like to ask you about the axisrc against te pyvgcngcgui issue
[12:54:09] <IchGucksLive> gladevcp may also be a problem on that
[13:08:18] <cradek> I don't know anything about that, sorry
[13:09:31] <IchGucksLive> ok
[13:29:22] <IchGucksLive> Gn8
[14:45:00] <sync> cradek: well, you can run 3ph motors with caps
[14:48:45] <cradek> yes if you can get them to start
[14:49:22] <cradek> or you can also have a second capacitor just for starting, and have a scheme to unhook that one after it has started, leaving the value appropriate for running
[14:49:32] <cradek> then congratulations you've reinvented the single phase motor :-)
[14:59:38] <andypugh> A single cap is a decent way to make a 3-phase suds-pump work.
[14:59:59] <andypugh> Needs to be a motor-run style cap though.
[15:05:30] <cradek> yeah
[15:05:39] <Cromaglious_> run can also use a 1ph motor to start a 3ph motor starting on 2 ph. the derive the 3rd phase from the unpowered winding...
[15:06:13] <Cromaglious_> s/run/you/
[15:06:32] <Cromaglious_> which is how some rotary phase converters run.
[15:06:50] <andypugh> You can even use that system to double the voltage (approximately) if you take single-phase neutral to the star point.
[15:07:14] <andypugh> But it’s not super-efficient and needs extra caps
[15:07:51] <andypugh> A better scheme then is to get an oversize 440V VFD and re-wire the input stage as a Delon doubler.
[15:08:16] <andypugh> (I haven’t actually tried this, but I have heard from folk who have)
[15:20:29] <sync> or get a vfd with dclink input
[15:31:20] <Frank_6> hi
[16:22:08] <andypugh> sync: You still need your doubler to run a 440V motor off of 240 single phase, so the DC link is not such a bige help.
[16:22:27] <sync> it is, as you can just put your doubler onto that
[16:22:35] <andypugh> (And you need to at least double the VFD rating, probably more, because ripple will be much worse)
[16:22:49] <sync> and some vfds do not like being fed dc
[16:38:27] <Deejay> gn8
[17:09:45] <sector_0> anyone using brushless servo for you setup?
[17:10:15] <rob_h> mean like AC servo
[17:11:05] <Wolf_> like http://i.imgur.com/EOp8e4l.jpg ?
[17:14:34] <Wolf_> there are a few people running brushless servos
[17:17:28] <andypugh> Yes. I have 6 of them on 2 machines, and another 3 looking for homes.
[17:18:12] <sector_0> ahh
[17:19:32] <sector_0> I'm looking around on ebay for some brushless motors, but the motor I'm seeing have amp ratings in the range of 10A-100A
[17:19:56] <gregcnc> brushless servos or toy rc motors?
[17:20:36] <sector_0> gregcnc, well there's mostly focused to the toy market, but I assumed they'd be the same, just without the feedback
[17:20:50] <gregcnc> not really
[17:21:49] <Wolf_> ebay is a pain in the ass for searching for industrial motor
[17:22:01] <gregcnc> burshless DC is bruhlsess DC, but design features make a servo vs spin a prop or drive some wheels
[17:22:38] <rob_h> if you know what Nm rating you need its best to go from there on
[17:22:47] <Wolf_> I’ve found BLDC servos listed as stepper lol
[17:23:07] <gregcnc> yeah sometimes stuff is just poorly listed
[17:24:10] <sector_0> lol
[17:24:22] <sector_0> is there any common model numbers?
[17:24:42] <gregcnc> real BLDC servos can be cheap enough that I wouldn't bother with trying to cobble them from rc motors
[17:24:43] <Wolf_> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kollmorgen-H-344-H-0000-Six-Step-Commutated-Servo-Motor/401190105533 < odd worded?
[17:25:26] <sector_0> wow
[17:25:30] <sector_0> that price though
[17:25:39] <gregcnc> tha't s big servo
[17:26:00] <Wolf_> I have 3 H-342 here on my desk
[17:27:32] <jdh> poorly listed stuff often has the best prices
[17:27:59] <Wolf_> H-344 servo is only 2.1N-m continuous
[17:30:48] <gregcnc> you need to figure out how much torque / power you need to make a good choice
[17:31:54] <Wolf_> or buy stuff off ebay and then figure out what to do with them 12 yrs later
[17:32:08] <Wolf_> blindly buy*…
[17:32:44] <Wolf_> which is how I ended up with these kollmogen H-342 servos lol
[17:33:52] * SpeedEvil hides 94% of everything in the room.
[17:33:57] <SpeedEvil> I don't have that problem at all.
[17:34:25] <gregcnc> my problem is buying stuff for projects and not getting to them
[17:34:30] <Wolf_> I think I paid <$75 for them
[17:35:06] <MacGalempsy> gregcnc: im with you on that one
[17:35:24] <Wolf_> I’m thinking they might be overkill for a cnc plasma table
[17:48:02] <MacGalempsy> hey pete
[17:48:56] <MacGalempsy> i cant believe a cnc plasma table goes for $11k without the plasma
[17:49:27] <Wolf_> yeah… thats why I’m building my own
[17:52:34] <BeachBumPete> Hey Mac
[17:53:28] <MacGalempsy> anything new going on:?
[17:54:41] <andypugh> Try this search: (brushless, AC) servo motor -radio
[17:55:05] <BeachBumPete> meh not much
[17:55:22] <BeachBumPete> I managed to torch my MPG wheel yesterday with DC voltage :)
[17:55:35] <andypugh> Better: (brushless, AC) servo motor -radio -digital
[17:55:57] <MacGalempsy> oops
[17:56:16] <BeachBumPete> its okay I do that sometimes heh
[17:56:39] <BeachBumPete> kinda bummed that it was the original Cincinatti wheel tho and not some chinese one
[17:57:24] <MacGalempsy> cant you just get a part number off of it and replace the wheel?
[17:57:36] <BeachBumPete> probably
[17:57:46] <BeachBumPete> but a chinese clone is like less than 20
[17:57:58] <MacGalempsy> not for long
[17:58:21] <BeachBumPete> I need to order two anyways I need one for the CNC lathe I am retrofitting
[17:58:27] <MacGalempsy> add 35% and take away the chinese gov subsidies to the company. it will be back to normal prices
[17:58:28] <BeachBumPete> why not for long
[17:58:50] <BeachBumPete> thats fine I would rather buy from a US supplier anyway
[17:58:56] <MacGalempsy> when trump labels china a currency manipulator, prices will start to go up
[17:59:24] <tiwake> BeachBumPete: why not make your own?
[17:59:38] <tiwake> or wait
[17:59:44] <tiwake> miles per gallon wheel?
[17:59:45] <BeachBumPete> no need to reinvent the wheel man.
[18:00:16] <BeachBumPete> honestly I am considering getting one of those import pendants with Estop and MPG etc.
[18:00:46] <BeachBumPete> it would be nice to be able to set it on the table and make my setups without having to reach over for the wheel on the main pendant
[18:03:17] <gregcnc> andypugh did you sort a collet chuck? do you see many of these over there? www.ebay.com/itm/122266498290
[18:03:44] <JT-Shop2> zlog
[18:05:50] <tiwake> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Ryzen-New-Horizon
[18:11:49] <andypugh> They exist
[18:12:20] <andypugh> And I have been somewhat tempted by: (brushless, AC) servo motor -radio
[18:12:23] <andypugh> OOps
[18:12:32] <andypugh> http://www.ebay.com/itm/5C-Collet-Chuck-with-Integral-D1-4-Cam-Lock-Mount-/271667554173?hash=item3f40a5e77d:g:5m4AAOSwD0lUe1-r
[18:12:34] <andypugh> I mean
[18:32:04] <BeachBumPete> Need to get one of those that has the set tru system or it would be a crap shoot no?
[18:41:05] <zeeshan> hi
[18:45:31] <Wolf_> evening
[18:47:08] <zeeshan> any luck with your motherboard
[18:47:22] <Wolf_> haven’t messed with it today yet
[18:48:51] <zeeshan> i hope you get the jitter down
[18:48:52] <zeeshan> ;p
[18:48:58] <zeeshan> cause that is the board im planning to "upgrade to"
[18:49:14] * JT-Shop2 calls it a day
[18:49:41] <Wolf_> jitters seems to be stuck around 50,000ns
[18:51:07] <Wolf_> other issue is the graphics chip won’t load a driver
[18:51:50] <zeeshan> hmm
[18:51:59] <zeeshan> that can't possibly be a new issue
[18:52:09] <zeeshan> intel graphics has been around for a long time
[18:52:35] <Wolf_> no idea, this one has a intel gen 7 graphics chip
[18:53:29] <Wolf_> which kicked back on google no fixes other then some speculation about rolling back something to make it work (least with debian)
[18:53:34] <malcom2073> Is that one of those dual graphics chip ones? Onboard intel + offboard nvidia/amd?
[18:53:45] <Wolf_> just onboard
[18:54:01] <Wolf_> its a mini-itx in a 1u height case…
[18:55:00] <malcom2073> I've had bad luck with 6th and 7th gen intels when it comes to video in anything except the most up to date kernels
[18:55:37] <Jymmm> What pipe can you use for propane above ground?
[18:56:08] <Wolf_> http://i.imgur.com/DQwwUNg.jpg least the thing looks good in the case
[18:56:21] <malcom2073> I like the case
[18:58:44] <Wolf_> seems the Q1900 and Q1900B is a huge difference… and I have the Q1900-itx
[18:59:16] <zeeshan> whats the diff
[18:59:29] <Wolf_> q1900b works…
[18:59:43] <Wolf_> thats the one everyone else is running
[19:00:58] <Wolf_> or it might be that I have no idea what i’m doing when it comes to linux
[19:02:21] <zeeshan> maybe
[19:02:22] <zeeshan> :P
[19:02:31] <zeeshan> but really its all about setting up the bios correctly
[19:02:33] <zeeshan> and you're good to go
[19:02:48] <zeeshan> i also had to use the VESA driver
[19:02:50] <zeeshan> or whatever it's called
[19:02:58] <zeeshan> if i used the nvidia driver, it had jitter issues
[19:03:38] <Wolf_> mine won’t load anything but the vesa or something, no video settings available and everything looks like shit on the screen
[19:18:21] <andypugh> Wolf_: You might need to force the resolution with Xorg.conf.
[19:18:47] <andypugh> It’s been replaced by other stuff at least twice, but sometimes is seems to be all that works
[19:25:58] <Wolf_> *-display UNCLAIMED …that means what?
[19:28:17] <andypugh> http://askubuntu.com/questions/705108/ubuntu-14-04-display-unclaimed
[19:28:34] <andypugh> (Just one thing that Google found)
[19:29:23] <Wolf_> so yeah, no video driver loading
[19:31:11] <andypugh> Try “display unclaimed” in quotes as a google search term. Possibly add the OS and the graphics system (intel?) and see what you can find.
[19:31:38] <andypugh> Though you might get: https://xkcd.com/979/
[19:31:54] <Wolf_> google intel gen 7 Debian just gives me pages of problems with no answers
[19:39:49] <zeeshan> andypugh: FIX MY LATHE!!
[19:39:50] <zeeshan> :[
[19:41:02] <andypugh> OK. done.
[19:41:34] <zeeshan> haha
[19:41:40] <zeeshan> dude, if you were in my situation
[19:41:43] <Wolf_> lol
[19:41:49] <zeeshan> would you bypass the 3 phase rectifier crap
[19:41:53] <zeeshan> and just feed dc right into the servo drive?
[19:42:37] <andypugh> Dunno. Do you hsve 3-phase?
[19:42:46] <zeeshan> no
[19:42:50] <zeeshan> only single phase ;/
[19:42:58] <zeeshan> my other option is buying an amc drive
[19:43:39] <andypugh> What happens if you feed the 3-phase rectifier with single phase?
[19:44:25] <zeeshan> have not tried
[19:44:30] <zeeshan> didn't want to risk blowing it up
[19:44:44] <jdh> do video if you try.
[19:44:45] <andypugh> Most VFDs can live with that. (some refuse to, but that’s active refusal and phase-loss detection)
[19:45:31] <andypugh> You are unlikely to blow it up, they have to be robust to losing a phase if the breaker trips.
[19:45:55] <zeeshan> there is a lot that is confusing me about the fanuc drives
[19:46:03] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/nmaK5p1.png
[19:46:07] <zeeshan> starting with what is TOH!!!
[19:46:11] <zeeshan> it goes to the transformer
[19:46:27] <zeeshan> my other question is
[19:46:28] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/GruORj6.png
[19:46:35] <zeeshan> why is the circuit breaker only on 2 of the phases
[19:46:37] <zeeshan> not all 3?
[19:47:26] <SpeedEvil> If it breaks two, no power flows
[19:48:06] <zeeshan> are you sure
[19:48:12] <SpeedEvil> yes.
[19:48:17] <zeeshan> 3 phase breakers have 3 poles in them
[19:48:20] <zeeshan> i know that for sure
[19:48:25] <zeeshan> they put the 3rd one in for fun?
[19:48:31] <Wolf_> yeah
[19:48:35] <Tom_L> no, to confuse you
[19:48:41] <SpeedEvil> that's because you're not supposed to be opening the case of a machine when it's connected
[19:48:51] <andypugh> Are those definitely circuit breakers?
[19:49:15] <SpeedEvil> Whereas with a external breaker panel, faults may do anything, and they need to also isolate
[19:49:16] <Wolf_> probably over current protection
[19:49:26] <zeeshan> andypugh: it's thermal overload
[19:49:31] <zeeshan> the mcc is "magnetic contactor"
[19:50:14] <zeeshan> i was thinking of just wiring directly to the output of the diode module
[19:50:16] <zeeshan> as you can see
[19:50:22] <zeeshan> nothing else is using the 3 phase
[19:50:26] <andypugh> So, they only have two breakers to make it more convenient for you to hook up to single phase
[19:50:29] <zeeshan> it's just an ac to dc circuit
[19:50:57] <andypugh> Yeah, 3-phase bridge, it will still rectify single phase
[19:51:09] <andypugh> And you will have spare diodes.
[19:51:28] <zeeshan> yes
[19:51:32] <zeeshan> its the same circuit as a vfd
[19:51:33] <zeeshan> pretty much
[19:51:56] <zeeshan> i gues i should see if the capacitors in there
[19:52:01] <zeeshan> can handle a 120hz ripple
[19:52:57] <andypugh> It’s probably all specced for more power than you are likely to use.
[19:52:58] <zeeshan> from what i recall with 3 phase you have 40% thd
[19:53:02] <zeeshan> and 90% w/ single phase
[19:53:18] <SpeedEvil> you could also monitor the cap temp
[19:53:41] <zeeshan> the rectifier is huge on it
[19:53:44] <zeeshan> its like 3"x3"
[19:53:53] <zeeshan> maybe 3/4" thick
[19:54:06] <andypugh> Did you see my pretty selenium ones?
[19:55:05] <andypugh> https://goo.gl/photos/GHrcS4pdY3qy5VPe7
[19:55:32] <andypugh> Marvellously old-school
[19:56:47] <andypugh> Anyway, time to put myself in power-save mode.
[19:56:50] * SpeedEvil prefers mercury vapour.
[19:56:51] <SpeedEvil> andypugh: night
[19:58:41] <zeeshan> SpeedEvil: so you're telling me that if 2 poles were shut
[19:58:45] <zeeshan> and you touched the third pole
[19:58:47] <zeeshan> you'd be ok?
[19:58:49] <zeeshan> i dont believe you!
[19:58:51] <SpeedEvil> No.
[19:59:08] <Wolf_> its to protect the motors not the user
[19:59:15] <SpeedEvil> I'm saying that inside a machine, it is safe because you're never supposed to operate teh machine when the covers are open.
[20:02:05] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/vcTbbOH.jpg
[20:02:09] <zeeshan> okay its not 3"x3"
[20:02:13] <zeeshan> more like 1.5"
[20:02:14] <zeeshan> :p
[20:04:14] <jdh> what's teh selector below teh caps
[20:05:20] <zeeshan> thermal relay's reset button
[20:05:39] <zeeshan> MDB20A6 datasheet where art thou
[20:08:08] <zeeshan> POWER: 20A 600V
[20:16:59] <zeeshan> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/crydom-co/B483C-2/CC1888-ND/751706
[20:17:01] <zeeshan> could replace it with this
[20:17:04] <zeeshan> should bolt right in
[20:17:04] <zeeshan> :D
[20:18:04] <Wolf_> why does nothing in linux work… lol
[20:23:03] <BeachBumPete> good lord was my shop a wreck. I just spent like an hour and a half cleaning up junk and putting tools away...
[20:24:35] <BeachBumPete> anyone remember what the brand name was for those linuxCNC supported fancy handheld pendants they were selling. I want to look at the chorded one that runs USB I think it was.....
[20:25:44] <Wolf_> http://www.vistacnc.com/b01_pendant_P4_P4S/pendant_P4_P4S.htm ?
[20:26:56] <BeachBumPete> huh that is a different one
[20:27:42] <Wolf_> idk.. I can’t even get linux to load a damn wifi card driver
[20:28:40] <BeachBumPete> woah those are pricey
[20:31:29] <Wolf_> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Using_A_XHC-HB04_Wireless_MPG_Pendant then?
[20:33:11] <BeachBumPete> yeah it looks like that one only wired.
[20:33:45] <Wolf_> model down below for the wired
[20:35:47] <BeachBumPete> http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-HB04-Wire-Hand-Wheel-CNC-3Axis-Pulse-Generator-MPG-Pendant-for-Mach-3-Router-/111646229225?hash=item19fea242e9:g:btMAAOSwepJXX22h
[20:37:51] <Wolf_> arg why the fuck won’t this stupid thing load the driver
[20:40:24] <BeachBumPete> nice that it is supported and people have done the footwork on that one. I am NO integrator and need all the help I can get LOL
[20:41:02] <Wolf_> yeah, the pricey one is also intergraded and fully working
[20:42:13] <BeachBumPete> how?
[20:42:47] <BeachBumPete> I see it says that it works with linuxCNC but how could it be fully working without programming changes?
[20:43:36] <Wolf_> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/10-advanced-configuration/29834-configure-control-pendant-p4-s-imach3
[20:44:13] <Wolf_> somewhere there is info on it
[20:45:17] <BeachBumPete> interesting
[20:46:17] <Wolf_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqrooh92vNY might have some links in comments
[20:48:56] <Wolf_> … I love how most of the docs for wheezy tell you commands that don’t even work
[20:50:48] <zeeshan> Wolf_: linux is the worst for driver loading
[20:50:48] <zeeshan> lol
[20:50:58] <zeeshan> this is what happens when shit is open source
[20:51:09] <Wolf_> yeah
[20:51:37] <Wolf_> and debian seems to be worse then the others as well
[20:52:24] <malcom2073> Tbh, most of your problems come from using old software. You have to use bleeding edge if you want anything to work
[20:52:47] <Wolf_> how old is wheezy?
[20:52:53] <malcom2073> 5 years?
[20:52:54] <malcom2073> Maybe more?
[20:53:04] <Wolf_> this mobo is almost that old as well
[20:53:21] <malcom2073> I thought you said it was a gen 7 intel?
[20:53:27] <Wolf_> it is…
[20:53:55] <Wolf_> but I have had the Q1900B-itx bookmarked for 4yrs now
[20:53:57] <malcom2073> Which is in no way, a 5 year old processor :-P
[20:54:31] <malcom2073> I couldn't get video working on any gen 6-7 processors unless I used a 4.4 kernel or newer, which happened to be Ubuntu 16.04 in my case
[20:57:09] <Wolf_> anyways, right now my problems are the other way around, all the info and how to is outdated and none of the commands work trying to get this wifi working
[20:58:26] <Wolf_> like it says to verify the wireless with iwconfig, which doesn’t seem to exist any longer
[21:12:54] <pcw_home> J1900 is 3 years old
[21:12:55] <pcw_home> Wolf_: The kernel supplied with linuxcnc is quite ancient, you probably have to build a new one
[21:13:11] * zeeshan wishes he knew more about electronics
[21:13:24] <zeeshan> basically wha ti'm reading is if a rectifier sees a phase loss
[21:13:33] <zeeshan> now the other 2 rectifiers need to take up the slack
[21:13:47] <zeeshan> considering this rectifier is rated for 20A @ 600V
[21:14:15] <zeeshan> 20*2/3 = 13.3333A
[21:14:32] <zeeshan> 13.3333 * 240VAC input
[21:14:39] <zeeshan> = 3200W
[21:14:45] <zeeshan> servos are only 1900W
[21:17:00] <zeeshan> pcw_home: do you know what the TOH signals are for?
[21:17:05] <zeeshan> i'm going to buy the transformer you linked
[21:17:10] <zeeshan> and try these drives out.
[21:21:34] <Wolf_> pcw_home: yeah, I’m going to look in to alternative kernels next
[21:21:53] <Wolf_> still can’t figure out why I can’t get this wifi working
[21:22:50] <zeeshan> whos samco in here?
[21:22:57] <zeeshan> i've seen that name before
[21:24:23] <pcw_home> pretty sure TOH are the thermostat overheat switch wires
[21:24:52] <pcw_home> samco=skunkworks
[21:24:54] <BeachBumPete> isn't skunkworks
[21:24:59] <BeachBumPete> yup
[21:25:02] <jdh> http://i.imgur.com/euK3f4F.jpg
[21:25:09] <zeeshan> i guess they're monitoring the transformer temperature
[21:25:24] <zeeshan> lol what im asking who samco is
[21:25:29] <zeeshan> this guy frigging rebuilt his servo motors
[21:25:33] <zeeshan> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/commutator.JPG
[21:25:38] <zeeshan> randomly came across it
[21:25:42] <zeeshan> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/rotor1.JPG
[21:25:54] <zeeshan> hes using b40a40ac drives
[21:29:49] <t12_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXmKHGqfFlc
[21:30:25] <BeachBumPete> runnin parts and watchin' Star trek..... It's a beautiful thing :)
[21:30:36] <zeeshan> lol t12
[21:32:05] <Tom_L> i bet that rattles the neighbor's windows
[21:33:01] <BeachBumPete> what?
[21:33:17] <BeachBumPete> I don't play Star Trek that loud man hehe
[21:33:31] <Tom_L> t12's post
[21:34:17] <BeachBumPete> HOLY SMOKES I missed that post
[21:34:26] <BeachBumPete> that is INSANELY dangerous...
[21:34:40] <t12> i like their forklift rotation scheme
[21:36:36] <Wolf_> so, thats how they make m3 nuts?
[21:37:31] <malcom2073> That's crazy
[21:37:44] <BeachBumPete> I know right...
[21:37:51] <BeachBumPete> I would not stand anywhere near that thing
[21:38:18] <t12> checkboard shirt guy just doesnt care
[21:38:21] <t12> no facemask
[21:38:24] <t12> also red hat guy
[21:40:28] <BeachBumPete> ya think that's Osha approved? ;)
[21:40:29] <malcom2073> All in all, they seem to be *reasonably* save
[21:40:31] <malcom2073> safe*
[21:40:41] <malcom2073> Indiasafe
[21:41:08] <t12> another good one is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMOBqRVDOYQ
[21:43:20] <t12> looks pretty good at the end after turning
[21:45:51] <t12> in the end the sweedish company just has better tools but still dudes in tshirts and sticks
[21:45:58] <t12> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEF2erBBVZ4
[21:46:36] <BeachBumPete> that is amazing.... Honestly the fact is that a steel mill probably does it very similarly only inside a building I guess
[21:48:54] <malcom2073> Yeah only difference is better machines for moving the metal around
[21:49:35] <malcom2073> Jesus that last press
[21:49:37] <malcom2073> wonder how many ton?
[21:57:10] <t12> uhoh i'm trapped in youtube cnc videos
[21:57:56] <BeachBumPete> ya just gotta rip it off like a bandaid LOL
[22:26:34] <CaptHindsight> currently 1F here, BeachBumPete are you sweltering in the 70's?
[22:27:07] <BeachBumPete> meh well I just took out the garbage in shorts and socks ;)
[22:28:14] <CaptHindsight> BeachBumPete: being so close to the coast does it ever drop <32F?
[22:28:49] <BeachBumPete> hardly ever man once in a great while we get a real big cold snap but mostly a real cold day here is somewhere in the 40s
[22:38:31] <CaptHindsight> BeachBumPete: I heard they arrested 2 kids in connection with the fires
[22:38:49] <CaptHindsight> BeachBumPete: how did your old town come out of it?
[22:39:12] <BeachBumPete> I heard that as well
[22:39:14] <BeachBumPete> sad
[22:39:21] <BeachBumPete> my town was fine
[22:39:34] <BeachBumPete> the town I lived in previously Walland Tennessee did not fare as well
[22:39:48] <BeachBumPete> there were several homes lost and lots of acres burned.
[22:40:33] <BeachBumPete> I honestly don't understand the loss of life tho. I guess I can see some of the people might have been disabled and unable to flee/nobody knew they were there or something like that.
[22:40:45] <BeachBumPete> but it is not as if you could not see this coming for several days....
[22:42:00] <Flipp_> anyone here ever attempt to make a harmonic gear set before?