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[00:08:54] <zeeshan> use linxucnc-features
[00:18:15] <codepython7772> so a 2200W spindle draws 22A on a 110v power outlet?
[00:30:54] <mikeh_> zeeshan, i want to eventually get to a point where an untrained user could basically select a binding from a drop down, enter a boot sole length and click go
[00:31:02] <mikeh_> so i'll need to roll my own UI for sure
[00:40:14] <codepython7772> does yoocnc have an ethernet board?
[01:53:26] <Wolf_> hmm http://harrisburg.craigslist.org/hvo/5881020361.html
[01:55:32] <XXCoder> rough shape probably
[01:55:52] <XXCoder> pretty cheap but have to rebuild a lot. flood damage
[01:55:53] <Wolf_> well, looks like the control box went under water powered
[01:56:30] <XXCoder> it looks like its weird transition machine between knee mill and cnc machine
[01:58:46] <Wolf_> yeah, is a odd looking thing isn’t it
[01:59:21] <XXCoder> evolution!
[02:36:11] <Deejay> moin
[04:37:54] <aventtini> hi guys
[04:38:21] <aventtini> guys i have a problem on a mesa 7i77
[04:38:35] <aventtini> im getting 15v on SW analogs out
[04:38:45] <aventtini> its the first time is happening
[04:39:00] <aventtini> jon andy?
[04:41:19] <pcw_home> That means damaged analog power supply (usually from transient or permanent > 5V on 5V supply)
[04:42:12] <pcw_home> (usually the 74ACT04 is damaged, check it its hot)
[04:44:12] <aventtini> let me see
[04:44:14] <aventtini> one sec
[04:46:00] <aventtini> on analog out
[04:46:03] <aventtini> ?
[04:46:18] <aventtini> 74ACT04
[04:46:26] <aventtini> is out in/out
[04:47:00] <aventtini> lower bottom of the board
[04:49:06] <aventtini> olso be 7i77 was new
[04:49:31] <aventtini> from a lot of 5 this is the only one that has this problem
[04:52:20] <Moronicsmurf> pcw, yo alive?
[04:52:25] <Moronicsmurf> you*
[04:54:22] <pcw_home> aventtini: still means that you need to check your 5V very carefully
[04:55:27] <aventtini> i have test whit 5v power supply
[04:55:35] <aventtini> and 5 v from pc
[04:55:40] <aventtini> same thing
[04:56:08] <aventtini> i just swap th 7i77
[04:56:14] <aventtini> whit a new one
[04:56:18] <aventtini> and it ok
[04:56:25] <aventtini> so board is damaged
[04:56:40] <XXCoder> look at traces and broken capactors
[04:56:44] <XXCoder> might be repairable
[04:56:52] <XXCoder> if worth time to do so
[04:57:33] <aventtini> if i get the 5 v out
[04:57:50] <aventtini> it makes from 5v to 15v
[04:58:00] <aventtini> on analog sw
[04:58:27] <aventtini> hmmm
[04:58:32] <aventtini> funny
[04:58:36] <aventtini> furst time
[04:59:02] <pcw_home> If you swap the card you may damage the new 7I77
[04:59:03] <pcw_home> please check your 5V supply for 5V (ALWAYS 5V, even 1 ms of >7V will cause this damage)
[05:00:33] <pcw_home> Other cause I've seen of this issue is broken inductor on bottom edge of card near +-15V PS
[05:01:11] <pcw_home> (mechanical damage)
[05:01:22] <Moronicsmurf> pcw_home, for something else how many amps would the 24V fieldsbus need? i have a 24V/0.5A lying here, would it suffice?
[05:01:41] <pcw_home> depends on what loads you have
[05:01:56] <Moronicsmurf> the card and som endliimits.
[05:02:20] <pcw_home> 100 mA would be plenty
[05:02:27] <Moronicsmurf> then im safe. :D
[05:03:28] <pcw_home> if you have 16x 100 mA relays then you need ~1.7A
[05:04:05] <aventtini> it works on on a new card
[05:04:07] <Moronicsmurf> yeah no i only use 6 limit switches.. thats it, its for a plasma table.
[05:04:18] <aventtini> and olso on the 5v power supply
[05:04:31] <pcw_home> aventtini: maybe for a while :-(
[05:04:42] <aventtini> i have 4.89v with no piks
[05:05:09] <aventtini> this is a fresh instal on a anilam bridgeport
[05:05:54] <pcw_home> PC power supply is is very unlikely to cause trouble but check your external supply
[05:06:15] <aventtini> can i send it to repair
[05:06:16] <aventtini> ?
[05:06:31] <aventtini> or i can change
[05:07:04] <pcw_home> Yes return for repair but do check you external 5V supply
[05:07:17] <pcw_home> check your
[05:08:33] <aventtini> ok capo
[05:08:45] <aventtini> its 7i77 in stock now?
[05:08:53] <pcw_home> yes
[05:09:24] <aventtini> ok 5pc in need next week
[05:16:38] <pcw_home> also try mesaus.com, they may ship cheaper than us
[05:35:15] <jthornton> morning
[05:35:25] <Moronicsmurf> o/
[05:35:59] <XXCoder> yo
[05:36:10] <XXCoder> I printed 2 xmas trees and dang its awesome
[05:36:28] <XXCoder> https://www.thingiverse.com/make:272866
[05:59:13] <jthornton> cool
[06:00:55] <XXCoder> its hella shiny lol
[06:00:57] <XXCoder> petg
[06:05:18] <SpeedEvil> http://imgur.com/gallery/GrFXD - related
[06:06:20] <XXCoder> good one yep
[06:38:38] <Jymmm> besides pi, is there a uC that can run a full distro?
[06:39:46] <sync> that depends on your definition of a uc
[06:39:58] <Jymmm> crap bbb is hdmi too
[06:39:59] <sync> there are thousands of SBCs like the pi
[06:40:25] <Moronicsmurf> im fiddling with getting linuxmint working with a preempt kernel on a Lattepanda
[06:40:26] <SpeedEvil> Also depends what you mean by 'full distro'
[06:40:29] <Moronicsmurf> it works nice. =)
[06:40:51] <SpeedEvil> If you're expecting a flawless desktop experience, you're gonna have a bad time.
[06:41:22] <SpeedEvil> (on pi at least)
[06:41:37] <Jymmm> Nah, just a headless logging for the most part
[06:42:24] <Jymmm> a shell primarily
[06:42:51] <Moronicsmurf> Beaglebone black and Lattepanda is the 2 i would look at
[06:42:59] <Moronicsmurf> both can handle realtime stuff
[06:43:15] <SpeedEvil> orange pi variants can be good too
[06:45:18] <Moronicsmurf> as long as it have some sort of RTC chip or function in the cpu it should work.
[06:45:26] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: does orange need a heatsink/fan?
[06:45:31] <Moronicsmurf> offloading the stepp/servo cycles on a mesa card
[06:48:15] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: most variants don't
[06:50:20] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: ok, cool. it ha a sata port, at least I wouldnt burnout uSD cards
[06:50:34] <SpeedEvil> the SATA port is quite slow - it's hooked over USB
[06:50:55] <SpeedEvil> but if you're doing more than 40 meg a second on a logging machine...
[06:51:24] <Moronicsmurf> if you consider it for logging only look into graylogging and customizing the pipe for it thus not killing the IO
[06:52:12] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: Yeah, a non issue.
[06:55:23] <Jymmm> Moronicsmurf: googling 'graylogging' brings up one company over and over. You have any specific links?
[06:56:08] <Moronicsmurf> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-graylog2-and-centralize-logs-on-ubuntu-14-04
[06:56:34] <Jymmm> damn, graylog.org must have paid google a fortune to get top billing
[06:57:04] <Moronicsmurf> graylog is a way of centralized logging anyway and is less IO intensive
[06:57:18] <Moronicsmurf> we do it on a large scale for our node.js clusters.
[06:58:27] <Jymmm> seems more like a store and fwd
[06:58:43] <Moronicsmurf> its a storage and log server yes
[06:59:01] <Moronicsmurf> you use a client that pushes logs into it from the devices / apps you wanna log
[06:59:33] <Moronicsmurf> nice thing is that you can do automated responses around the elasticsearch database from the logserver as well..
[06:59:45] <Moronicsmurf> like send you a sms, restart services or reboot whole sections of your infrastructure.
[07:00:29] <Jymmm> but can it get me a beer?
[07:00:45] <Moronicsmurf> if you use your cnc machine and build a robot and attaches it to the network.. sure.
[07:00:51] <Moronicsmurf> just dont let it get into the gun cabinette
[07:01:14] <Jymmm> do they sell beer to robots?
[07:01:27] <Moronicsmurf> why wouldnt they?
[07:01:38] <Jymmm> selling to a 2yo robot
[07:01:55] <Jymmm> Must be 21+
[07:02:08] <XXCoder> use a can roller thingy in ref so your robot can easily get it :P
[07:02:22] <XXCoder> just add 21+ years old parts to your robot
[07:07:04] <Moronicsmurf> dress him in your old crusty socks. no one will be the wiser
[07:11:33] <XXCoder> jthornton: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1144055 heh
[07:13:39] <jthornton> heh
[07:13:58] <XXCoder> never got anywhere close to winning :P
[07:23:15] <cyborg_ar> hi
[07:44:54] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: At $9 with built in Li-Ion support and 4GB storage https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer/description
[07:45:43] <SpeedEvil> well - yes.
[07:52:10] <Jymmm> $9 for a uC + storage+ wifi, evne if it breaks, just drop in a new one... done.
[07:52:15] <Jymmm> Heh... http://docs.getchip.com/chip.html#settings-and-configuration
[07:52:55] <SpeedEvil> 'if it breaks' - the cost in time/pissing about may exceed $9
[07:54:06] <Jymmm> If you can get $9 for unplugigng one board and plugigng in another in under 20 seconds, I'd be impressed....
[07:54:34] <Jymmm> It's even programmable via Chrome browser it seems
[07:54:42] <Jymmm> err flashable
[07:55:42] <Jymmm> Not too bad... draws about 500mA peak (at boot time), runs on around 200mA, and rests with around 80mA
[07:57:07] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: assuming the thing is readily accessible, and youhave a spare, and you haven't forgotten how to program it, or any resources that you used haven't gone away
[08:01:45] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: At $9, for a whole solution, not having spares pre-programmed and ready to go, is pretty much a no brainer, unless your a masochist, dumbass, or get paid by the hour.
[08:02:03] <Jymmm> ...and have no ethics
[08:04:09] <Jymmm> imnsho that is =)
[08:05:44] <SpeedEvil> I was meaning personallyu
[08:10:04] <Tom_L> Jymmm, what are you logging?
[08:14:32] <pink_vampire> hi everyone,
[08:14:37] <SpeedEvil> pink_vampire: hello.
[08:15:32] <pink_vampire> eventually after a-lot of help the probe screen work!
[08:19:31] <zeeshan> :O
[08:19:55] <pink_vampire> it work very nice
[08:19:59] <Tom_L> zeeshan you got your car hangin from the ceiling? don't see it in those pics...
[08:20:08] <zeeshan> haha tom
[08:20:18] <zeeshan> man with the car inthe garage
[08:20:26] <zeeshan> and just makin the welder cart and grinder cart
[08:20:32] <zeeshan> i've recovered a lot of valuable floor space
[08:20:33] <Tom_L> what an obsured concept
[08:21:51] <Tom_L> it's not April 2015 anymore btw
[08:22:02] <zeeshan> :-)
[08:22:27] <zeeshan> i need to put something different there
[08:22:32] <zeeshan> need to decorate the garage!
[08:22:41] <Tom_L> drill charts
[08:23:00] <zeeshan> that is on another wall :P
[08:23:01] <Tom_L> hang some antique tools on the wall
[08:23:06] <zeeshan> i got a mini one
[08:23:11] <zeeshan> under the calendar
[08:23:11] <pink_vampire> but i'm not sure how i'm supposed to set the probe. if i'm trying to find a corner, what is the location that the ball of the probe should be?
[08:23:17] <Tom_L> i saw that
[08:24:24] <zeeshan> somehow that grinder cart image became public
[08:24:27] <zeeshan> and people commented on imgur
[08:24:30] <zeeshan> but i cant see the comments?
[08:24:30] <skunkworks> all I need is a dielectric pump.. Then I can try out the edm...
[08:25:04] <Tom_L> all i see is the img
[08:25:16] <zeeshan> same
[08:25:23] <zeeshan> but i got a bunch of messages on my phone
[08:25:26] <zeeshan> where i posted from
[08:25:26] <Tom_L> maybe you posted it public
[08:25:33] <zeeshan> im trying to figure out wtf happened
[08:25:47] <Tom_L> go back in and delete it
[08:26:46] <zeeshan> problem is
[08:26:54] <zeeshan> ive posted a lot of images, and if they're all public that is a bit scary
[08:27:00] <Tom_L> heh
[08:27:04] <zeeshan> cause i uploaded them as private..
[08:27:13] <zeeshan> i mean nothing that i don't really care about others seeing
[08:27:15] <zeeshan> but wtf
[08:27:18] <Tom_L> i put my junk on my own server
[08:27:21] <Tom_L> no problems
[08:27:25] <pink_vampire> how is the DeWalt DW872, for cutting stock material?
[08:27:29] <zeeshan> i should do that too from now on
[08:27:32] <zeeshan> i have a really fast upload
[08:27:49] <Tom_L> then i forget where i put it
[08:27:57] <pink_vampire> I'm talking about 3"x3" aluminum and steel solid bars
[08:28:48] <zeeshan> 128 Mbps d/l and 9.84 Mbps upload
[08:28:50] <zeeshan> latest speed test
[08:28:56] <zeeshan> i think that should be good enough for image hosting?
[08:29:04] <zeeshan> but then i gotta leave computer on all the time..
[08:29:07] <pink_vampire> wow
[08:29:18] <pink_vampire> I'm with 25 or 50
[08:29:20] <cyborg_ar> pink_vampire, looks good, if you put the right saw blade in it
[08:29:26] <SpeedEvil> My understanding is that it's mostly designed for thin section - 3*3 box will work fine, 3*3 bar may wear it out quick and you may only get several cuts I suspect
[08:29:31] <SpeedEvil> (for steel)
[08:29:36] <Tom_L> i've got an old headless pc by my router i use
[08:30:03] <Tom_L> 61Mbps down, ~10 up
[08:30:14] <pink_vampire> I wish i have an old power hacksaw
[08:30:23] <zeeshan> http://www.rogers.com/consumer/internet?ipn=1#packages
[08:30:29] <zeeshan> thats the packages we have up here
[08:31:21] <Tom_L> we've got higher than mine but mine is on the upper end
[08:31:29] <zeeshan> jeez
[08:31:32] <zeeshan> they got 1gbps download
[08:31:35] <zeeshan> and 50 mbps upload lol
[08:31:50] <Tom_L> yeah, i'm not gonna pay for that
[08:31:51] <SpeedEvil> pink_vampire: Power hacksaw seems quite plausible to DIY
[08:32:03] <zeeshan> my work needs to get that for our remote offices!
[08:32:37] <pink_vampire> SpeedEvil: I don't have a welder :(
[08:32:53] <zeeshan> SpeedEvil: they call it a sawzall! :P
[08:33:16] <SpeedEvil> pink_vampire: don't need it for wood
[08:33:50] <pink_vampire> but i want to get accurate cuts
[08:34:25] <Roguish> pink_vampire: you can definitely use most any cutoff saw (like a dewalt) to cut aluminum. use a 'non-metalic specific' blade. use a wax lube. helps keep from loading up the teeth.
[08:34:48] <zeeshan> or just get your material supplier to cut it for you! :P
[08:34:59] <zeeshan> i try to avoid cutting at home unless i absolutely have to
[08:35:00] <Roguish> sorry. a 'metalic specific' blade.
[08:35:25] <Roguish> they usuall have a negative rake, like 5 degrees.
[08:35:38] <Roguish> lots of teeth.
[08:45:21] <pink_vampire> zeeshan: i have few solid bars (2X3" and 6' long), that I want to cut to about 3/4" thick blocks
[08:45:53] <pink_vampire> Roguish: what kind of saw do you have?
[08:46:17] <archivist> I use an aluminium blade in the cut off saw or a slitting saw in the mill
[08:46:38] <Roguish> I use my old Delta. company i just left had a big dewalt., 12" blade.
[08:47:13] <Roguish> they cut lots of alu with the saw. no problem. very common.
[08:49:13] <archivist> dewalt large sections...hearing damage
[08:49:35] <Roguish> yeah, they get noisy
[08:50:27] <archivist> used the over arm type in the early 1970s cutting large extrusions
[08:52:30] <archivist> for these http://heavycherry.com/imgs/a/e/p/w/x/other__tasker_2_axis_steel_suspension_craven_1973_1_lgw.jpg
[09:03:02] <codepython777> archivist: i'm new to cnc. How does one calibrate a new cnc machine where i change the breakout board? Is there a tutorial on this somewhere for linux cnc?
[09:03:50] <archivist> depends what you mean by calibration
[09:04:07] <codepython777> archivist: How does it know where 0,0,0 is ? Also how do i test its movement accuracy?
[09:05:01] <__rob> pink_vampire, I use an old dewalt cutoff saw to chop up pretty chunky aluminium, cuts are pretty good, I just face off in the mill anyway
[09:05:05] <archivist> you tell it where 0,0,0 is, homing switches and touch off are the two concepts
[09:05:20] <__rob> def want to make sure you clamp it right down tho
[09:05:39] <archivist> movement scale and accuracy you set and measure
[09:05:39] <pink_vampire> __rob: what is the model of the dewalt?
[09:06:06] <codepython777> archivist: thanks, will google them
[09:06:23] <__rob> http://sprzedajemy.pl/profesjonalna-pila-dewalt-dw-707-nr20481462
[09:06:26] <__rob> that one I thinkl
[09:06:45] <__rob> its not actually dewalt, its green, but exact same as the dewalt, they must have bought the company
[09:07:07] <__rob> begins with e
[09:07:09] <__rob> umm
[09:07:19] <sync> codepython777: 000 is always at the left front corner
[09:09:06] <__rob> I cut up to 25cm x 15cm billet on that
[09:09:07] <__rob> works ok
[09:09:12] <__rob> screams a bit
[09:09:20] <pink_vampire> __rob: are you sure it's cold cat saw?
[09:09:34] <pink_vampire> it's look like a wood miter saw
[09:09:42] <__rob> you get an ally blade
[09:09:56] <archivist> you just use the right blade to cut metal
[09:10:07] <__rob> works a treat
[09:10:12] <__rob> just go vertical
[09:10:14] <pink_vampire> but cold cut saw spin much slower then wood blades
[09:10:27] <__rob> dont try and push it horizontal like you might with wood
[09:11:03] <sync> you can cut al with a fast spinning wood cutting saw
[09:11:08] <sync> it is loud tho
[09:11:10] <archivist> with aluminium you can cut fast, steel you need a slower saw
[09:11:53] <archivist> can be ear defenders loud
[09:12:21] <__rob> yea you gotta wear some ear defenders
[09:12:26] <__rob> I dont cut it that fast
[09:12:36] <__rob> but even preassure
[09:12:49] <__rob> pressure
[09:13:34] <__rob> also drilled and tapped the plate, so I could clamp in small parts with regular setup clamps
[09:13:45] <__rob> thats been really handy
[09:14:02] <__rob> 100% dont want to do it without a clamp
[09:15:02] <Tom_L> http://www.baileigh.com/horizontal-and-vertical-band-saw-bs-712ms?gclid=CNyytdXj2tACFQ6CaQodX60NJg
[09:15:08] <Tom_L> we used similar for bar stock
[09:15:37] <Tom_L> had a large vertical bandsaw for blocks etc
[09:18:32] <codepython777> sync: thanks. I pulled the plug on my first cnc - i guess it will be a few weeks before i get to play with it
[09:26:34] <pink_vampire> i have the band saw from HF, and it's pure junk
[09:27:01] <Tom_L> it's quality chinese junk
[09:28:45] <SpeedEvil> I spent way too long trying to work out why my cheap little bandsaw the table would wobble even when the knob locking it was clamped hard enough to break the knob
[09:29:12] <SpeedEvil> Turned out that the friction locking surfaces were painted with nice shiny blue paint.
[09:31:58] <CaptHindsight> you don't say https://backchannel.com/the-3d-printing-revolution-that-wasnt-60b000c3a3ed#.gfhjkrh23
[09:40:46] <zeeshan> goddamn cat
[09:40:55] <zeeshan> ate through my cell phone charger cable
[09:43:47] <CaptHindsight> just wait until you have kids :)
[09:44:04] <Tom_L> you gotta feed em once in a while
[09:44:33] <zeeshan> i need one of those braided charger cables
[09:44:38] <zeeshan> ss braided
[09:52:39] <Roguish> was it the kids or the cat?
[10:26:09] <JT-Shop> raining and the humidity level in the new shop is 45%, I think I finally got it sealed off!
[10:28:33] <BeachBumPete> I have come to the conclusion that machine tool manufacturers need to start making their machines and tooling from the same shit these idiots are pushing on every commercial on TV now on their skillets and frying pans...SHIT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE according to these guys... :)
[10:32:30] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: that musta been a LOT of duct tape ;)
[10:40:33] <SpeedEvil> JT-Shop: what is the inside and outside temp - a fairly minor difference can make a very major one in humidity
[10:40:49] <SpeedEvil> ~10C rise = 50% from 100%
[10:41:29] <SpeedEvil> BeachBumPete: Well, I do want machines made of the same stuff as indestructable skillets and frying pans.
[10:41:36] <SpeedEvil> Cast iron.
[10:42:37] <archivist> 74% RH in here....grrrr
[10:44:26] * SpeedEvil throws a bag of silica gel cat litter at archivist.
[10:45:04] <archivist> heating would be better
[10:48:27] <BeachBumPete> SpeedEvilI hear that....but I was referring to this new fangled copper/ceramic/unobtanium shite they are pushing on modern frying pans LOL
[10:48:35] <Jymmm> alex_joni: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients
[10:53:46] <JT-Shop> SpeedEvil: it's about 50f inside and 40f outside
[10:53:50] <cyborg_ar> I would like to add a physical start button to a machine, what would be the least painful option, get a pci parallel port card to add more pins to HAL, or mess around with some arduino stuff? most premade sketches i've seen are quite old
[10:54:31] <JT-Shop> cyborg_ar: what is your setup now hardware wise?
[10:54:51] <SpeedEvil> BeachBumPete: yeah - I saw that - I wanted one of the first ceramic non-sticks as it was sold to be forever.
[10:55:02] <SpeedEvil> BeachBumPete: the manufacturer walked back on that claim in about 6 months
[10:55:11] <cyborg_ar> it's a single parallel port connected to one of those chinese magic (tm) controller box, all the parallel port IO is being used
[10:56:00] <archivist> plug in a second parallel port
[10:56:16] <cyborg_ar> yeah i was thinking that will probably be the safest option
[10:56:17] <JT-Shop> a pci parallel port is the least painful way to add more I/O
[10:56:25] <cyborg_ar> i will go with that
[10:56:31] <cyborg_ar> thanks
[10:58:14] <Nick001> <JT-Shop> How big is your new shop?
[10:58:39] <JT-Shop> 18,000 cubic feet
[10:58:59] <BeachBumPete> LOL
[10:59:21] <Nick001> that could b 10x10x180ft high
[10:59:23] <Roguish> JT-Shop: now you
[10:59:43] <Roguish> JT-Shop: now you're just bragging....
[10:59:44] <JT-Shop> it could be but it's not that high only 12' high
[11:00:25] <Jymmm> 12" wide
[11:00:26] <JT-Shop> well I thought we were still taking about the humidity so cubic is a relevant dimension
[11:01:02] * JT-Shop wanders back to the new shop
[11:02:06] <malcom2073> CaptHindsight: good read, thanks for the link
[11:05:45] <MattyMatt> BeachBumPete, are you sure it isn't just TiAlN coating?
[11:05:51] <MattyMatt> that looks coppery
[11:06:05] <MattyMatt> more like gold mebbe
[11:07:08] <MattyMatt> could be good for cutlery
[11:08:06] <MattyMatt> cyborg_ar. look for a dual port one if you can. $2 more usually if you can find one
[11:10:15] <BeachBumPete> hell man I have no idea what it is LOL..
[11:12:46] <MattyMatt> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KOUWELL-KWE-220N-2-MOSCHIP-MCS9815CV-2-parallel-port-LPT-IEEE1284-PCI-card-/152334763373 here's a nice old one, but doesn't have the flying lead for the 2nd port
[11:13:44] <MattyMatt> not old enough to have jumpers to set the port numbers unfortunately. that'd be best for forcing it to LPT2 and LPT3
[11:17:31] <MattyMatt> has anyone got a udoo x86?
[11:20:37] <JT-NewShop> aw crap the music player I put out here was downloading a bunch of crap...
[11:21:55] <Frank_10> acceptacceptaccept
[11:23:15] <MattyMatt> 28 gpio on udoo. useful amount
[11:23:53] <MattyMatt> and because it uses arduino as gpio chip some of them can be a/d inputs
[11:24:01] <MattyMatt> nice for reprap
[11:24:49] <MattyMatt> http://www.seco.com/misk/UDOO_X86_datasheet.pdf
[11:27:24] <MattyMatt> ah not atmega. intel curie whatever that is
[11:27:46] <CaptHindsight> MattyMatt: I've seen some setups with an 8-core x86 PC connected to a duino over USB :)
[11:33:57] <MattyMatt> usb cable is the weak link on many repraps
[11:34:10] <MattyMatt> nudge cable = spoiled print
[11:34:50] <MattyMatt> people use SD cards just to avoid that
[11:36:15] <MattyMatt> SD card does the business tho. reprap does all the RT stuff on the arduino
[11:39:24] <CaptHindsight> I miss the 8051
[11:41:58] <MattyMatt> I've got a couple of 80188 boards. one a USR modem and the other an Olivetti inkjet. I bought an eprom programmer but never did anything with them
[11:42:48] <MattyMatt> because I found emc2 instead :)
[11:43:45] <MattyMatt> and a decent PC at the dump
[11:43:58] <CaptHindsight> not on kickstarter yet? http://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/drones/a23936/drone-hammock/
[11:44:25] <MattyMatt> wouldn't you need a PPL?
[11:44:34] <MattyMatt> and a FAA cert?
[11:48:21] <MattyMatt> http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/i-didnt-know-that/idkt-balloon-lift better
[11:49:17] <MattyMatt> meh 7kg per weather balloon. I thought they could lift ~20
[11:49:43] <SpeedEvil> There is a trade between lift and altitude
[11:50:07] <SpeedEvil> http://habhub.org/calc/ - calc
[11:53:04] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/MmeYOy4.png converge already
[11:53:04] <zeeshan> ;/
[11:54:16] <sync> no
[12:00:56] <zeeshan> it convered
[12:01:01] <zeeshan> at the 430th step
[12:01:02] <zeeshan> :D
[12:01:14] <zeeshan> i'm really not sure why the hell it's taking so long for such a simple problem
[12:13:23] <Tom_L> zeeshan wtf is that
[12:15:45] <zeeshan> Tom_L: convergence monitor for the solution to my non-linear structural problem
[12:15:46] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/nv5YoYQ.png
[12:15:53] <codepython777> does someone make it easy to make a cnc table? I dont have welding equipment
[12:16:04] <Duc_mobile> 80/20 works well
[12:16:09] <zeeshan> im trying to compare my experimental results w/ fea
[12:17:12] <Duc_mobile> zeeshan: what is the part and loads?
[12:17:23] <codepython777> Duc_mobile: How do i build a table using 80/20? Do they sell joins that work without welding?
[12:18:12] <zeeshan> sheet of aluminum
[12:18:15] <zeeshan> press
[12:18:17] <zeeshan> pressure
[12:18:25] <Duc_mobile> codepython777: it all bolts together. can use a wood saw to cut it https://www.8020.net/
[12:18:43] <Duc_mobile> all for work or just fun?
[12:19:32] <Jymmm> wood saw with a carbide tipped blade
[12:27:43] <IchGucksLive> hi
[12:28:05] <IchGucksLive> Deejay: ?
[12:28:32] <IchGucksLive> nubcake: ?
[12:29:19] <IchGucksLive> Jymmm: are you on ?
[12:30:10] <IchGucksLive> pink_vampire: did the probing work for you
[12:33:32] <IchGucksLive> someone can please check the sound if there is no background noice https://youtu.be/IAEendxyg4E
[12:36:56] <Tom_L> no speakers here but the volume meter is moving
[12:37:09] <IchGucksLive> <- ;-)
[12:37:19] <IchGucksLive> Thanks
[12:50:02] <zeeshan> YESSSSSS
[12:56:46] <IchGucksLive> zeeshan: Boy or Girl
[12:57:11] <zeeshan> lol
[12:57:21] <zeeshan> my simulation result matches experimental
[12:57:32] <IchGucksLive> cool
[13:01:32] <IchGucksLive> so then after april 2017 Ubuntu und LCNC will be devided
[13:01:53] <IchGucksLive> as all repros will be gone
[13:02:13] <IchGucksLive> we need a full install DVD
[13:02:31] <IchGucksLive> with the latest on it
[13:03:15] <IchGucksLive> there is alredy nothing updating on 10.04 the repro to update 2.5 workes
[13:03:30] <IchGucksLive> but on 2.6 it needs python boost and no repro to get it
[13:05:28] <pink_vampire> IchGucksLive: yes, it work very nice
[13:05:51] <pink_vampire> but the arrow keys work in revers
[13:06:05] <pink_vampire> and it's super confusing for me
[13:06:43] <IchGucksLive> so did you realy use the iso axis setup
[13:06:53] <IchGucksLive> oly the pc is in wrong place
[13:07:11] <pink_vampire> the arrows was ok before we make the changes
[13:07:37] <Jymmm> IchGucksLive: on, off, it's all relevant =)
[13:07:38] <pink_vampire> IchGucksLive: what do you mean by "iso axis setup"?
[13:08:09] <IchGucksLive> Jymmm: you anounced it is background noice in the sound on Youtube
[13:08:42] <Jymmm> IchGucksLive: I still hear the whitenoise, but the audio is MUCH better
[13:09:30] <Jymmm> IchGucksLive: The audio imo is a non-issue now.
[13:09:40] <IchGucksLive> Thanks
[13:09:48] <Jymmm> no worries
[13:10:52] <IchGucksLive> i will make a EN vid from this tomorrow
[13:19:33] <Deejay> IchGucksLive, wassup?
[13:20:10] <IchGucksLive> https://youtu.be/IAEendxyg4E überprüf mal den ton bitte
[14:03:51] <Tom_L> zeeshan why wouldn't they match?
[14:04:29] <zeeshan> experimental errors
[14:04:32] <zeeshan> material model errors
[14:04:35] <zeeshan> lots of things
[14:04:39] <Tom_L> operator error
[14:04:43] <zeeshan> yes
[14:05:14] <Tom_L> what's it for
[14:05:37] <zeeshan> my thesis
[14:06:16] <Tom_L> is this part of that chamber thing you made?
[14:06:20] <zeeshan> ya
[14:10:00] <zeeshan> i really want to get this masterrs done
[14:10:10] <zeeshan> its really just a pain in the ass now
[14:10:11] <zeeshan> for me
[14:10:14] <zeeshan> that i want to get rid of
[14:10:18] <zeeshan> waste of time and money
[14:10:31] <zeeshan> should have never started it
[14:11:02] <zeeshan> (mostly hate it because of the prof im working with)
[14:12:47] <SpeedEvil> :/
[14:22:13] <Tom_L> i've met a couple like that
[14:30:10] <JT-Shop> Tom_L: starting from scratch on the logger, putting everything together that I've learned... looking good
[14:30:32] <BeachBumPete> Man I swear sometimes the hardest part is just figuring out where to put everything :) http://imgur.com/a/P7fWs
[14:35:16] <JT-Shop> I've moved a ton of stuff out to the new shop and I just can't see the room in here yet...
[14:35:49] <BeachBumPete> http://imgur.com/a/9aLUO
[15:06:03] <zeeshan> hmm
[15:19:53] <Tom_L> JT-FarAwayShop, starting over!!
[15:21:23] <Tom_L> BeachBumPete are those safety flipflops?
[15:22:30] <jt> well taking all I learned and putting into one program
[15:22:58] <Tom_L> you should add a query bot while you're at it :=)
[15:23:24] <jt> what is a query bot?
[15:23:41] <Tom_L> i looked at a couple of those but never found one that logged the way i like
[15:23:51] <Tom_L> you can ask it questions
[15:24:06] <jt> 6.5 running feet per bag of itch
[15:24:06] <Tom_L> the database gradually grows
[15:24:37] <jt> ah ok, you can store answers to questions
[15:24:54] <Tom_L> yeah i always thought it could be useful here
[15:25:04] <jt> what didn't you like or what do you think is useful?
[15:25:28] <Tom_L> i didn't like the way they logged the channel
[15:25:35] <Tom_L> been too long to really remember details
[15:25:43] <Tom_L> but i looked at 2-3
[15:25:46] <Tom_L> 3-4
[15:27:32] <Tom_shop> https://www.drupal.org/project/bot
[15:27:34] <Tom_shop> factoids
[15:27:50] <Tom_shop> !seen
[15:27:50] <the_wench> last seen in 2016-10-12 23:49:23GMT 838:59:59 ago, saying Join us at the 2016 MariaDB Developers Meetup, Amsterdam! 6-8 Oct - http://polr.me/122k
[15:27:54] <Tom_shop> and a few others
[15:28:14] <Tom_shop> archivist, what are you running?
[15:33:42] <jt> I could never be an insulation installer... I have to drink beer when I put itch up lol
[15:35:23] <Tom_L> spray foam
[15:35:46] <Tom_L> i can't remember the others i was looking at
[15:35:52] <Tom_L> i'll find em eventually...
[15:36:57] <Tom_shop> https://sourceforge.net/projects/supybot/
[15:37:01] <Tom_shop> that was one
[15:38:51] <Tom_shop> https://github.com/ProgVal/Supybot-plugins
[15:38:56] <Tom_shop> some plugins for it
[15:39:35] <jt> I can't look right now, I didn't know but the player from here was downloading all kind of crap since last night...
[15:39:56] <Tom_shop> i had high hopes for a decent bot at one point...
[15:39:57] <jt> need to check my usage in the morning
[15:40:27] <Tom_shop> things like 'tell' when someone is away
[15:40:40] <Tom_shop> or 'last said'
[15:41:01] <Tom_shop> and the query thing
[15:41:13] * zeeshan doesnt say a lot of things in here cause this channel is logged
[15:41:14] <zeeshan> :[
[15:41:23] <Tom_shop> oh poo
[15:41:36] <zeeshan> i really wouldnt care if it was logged or not
[15:41:41] <zeeshan> if it wasn't shared on google
[15:41:48] <zeeshan> everytime i google stuff now, i see my own writings here
[15:41:58] <Tom_shop> i don't thing they're googleable
[15:42:06] <Tom_shop> i can't remember off hand
[15:42:14] <Tom_shop> i think i added that no bot thing to them
[15:42:58] <Tom_shop> http://supybook.fealdia.org/devel/
[15:43:03] <zeeshan> im suprised tormach hasn't contacted me yet
[15:43:06] <zeeshan> =D
[15:43:06] <Tom_shop> the supybot seemed to be the most flexible
[15:43:35] <sync> why would they zeeshan?
[15:43:47] <zeeshan> cause i put their garbage down so much
[15:43:47] <zeeshan> :D
[15:43:51] * jt makes Roy Underhill proud... I'm using a hand saw to cut the 2bee4's
[15:44:01] <Tom_shop> yeah, aren't you on a first name basis with mazak?
[15:44:19] <zeeshan> yep
[15:44:44] <Tom_shop> JT-Shop, take a look at the supybot one if you get a chance
[15:44:56] <zeeshan> i don't want to be biased
[15:44:58] <zeeshan> but i do like mazak
[15:45:03] <zeeshan> i like their service a lot
[15:45:36] <zeeshan> the windows 7 operating system turned me off tho
[15:45:58] <zeeshan> but then again, i guess they're not really doing anything realtime on the computer.
[15:46:38] <jt> Tom_shop: I sent myself a note to look in the morning
[15:46:55] <Tom_shop> that last link is a good help for it
[15:47:32] <Tom_shop> i may go ahead and give it another look
[15:55:12] <BeachBumPete> Tom_L indeed they are safety flops
[15:55:21] <Tom_shop> https://echelog.com/logs/browse/supybot/1480806000
[15:55:34] <Tom_shop> JT-Shop, maybe they've improved their logging on supybot a bit
[16:02:59] <jt> that is interesting
[16:03:29] <jt> strange file names...
[16:04:51] <SpeedEvil> that looks like a seconds since 1970 at the end
[16:15:27] <jt> I'd say your correct
[16:36:13] <Deejay> gn8
[16:42:23] <andypugh> Tom_shop: I am pretty sure that you can google psha’s logger
[16:42:43] <jt> without a site search?
[16:44:24] <Tom_shop> andypugh, i may have modded the header for it... i can't really remember without looking
[16:44:40] <andypugh> trying site:psha.org.ru/irc actually turns up very fes hits. I guess he has a robots.txt
[16:45:24] <Tom_shop> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/
[16:45:27] <Tom_shop> what about that one
[16:47:44] * jt can't wait for the DDR3 memory to show up so I can ditch this crappy LinuxMint13 Cinnamon OS
[16:53:29] * jt may knock off an hour early today just for fun
[16:57:22] <Wolf_> asrock q1900-itx was one of the suggested to work pretty well right?
[16:57:38] <Tom_shop> so i'm told
[16:57:47] <Tom_shop> i've got one but not running lcnc with it yet
[16:58:07] <Tom_shop> q1900b itx
[16:58:21] <Tom_shop> or q1900m pro3 for a atx version
[16:59:07] <andypugh> jt: I thought you were the Mint fanboi?
[17:00:26] <Wolf_> hmm, whats the difference between the q1900-itx and q1900b-itx…
[17:00:46] <Tom_shop> probably the same board
[17:00:56] <Tom_shop> if not, i dunno
[17:01:11] <Wolf_> q1900-itx doesn’t have a LPT
[17:01:11] <Tom_shop> that's just what i have
[17:01:18] <Tom_shop> o
[17:01:24] <Wolf_> and has a dvi/hdmi
[17:01:43] <Tom_shop> you ned hdmi for lcnc :D
[17:01:48] <Tom_shop> need*
[17:02:12] <Wolf_> … thats what my current lcnc box is using lol
[17:02:29] <Tom_shop> if you've used it, no need to switch now
[17:04:10] <Wolf_> wow, thats a odd one, actually it has vga/dvi/hdmi on it...
[17:04:48] <Tom_shop> which?
[17:04:57] <Wolf_> the non-b
[17:05:03] <Tom_shop> huh
[17:05:16] <Wolf_> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157494
[17:05:59] <Tom_shop> single port?
[17:06:12] <Tom_shop> or will it do dual monitors
[17:06:20] <Wolf_> dunno
[17:06:29] <Tom_shop> probably single
[17:06:58] <Tom_shop> this gigabit has that but only does single
[17:07:07] <Wolf_> being onboard, might lag things even if it could do multi
[17:07:50] <Wolf_> q1900b-itx is out of stock or I would order that
[17:09:44] <Tom_shop> yeah, so is the other one
[17:10:41] <Tom_shop> https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-Motherboard-Mini-DDR3-Q1900B-ITX/dp/B00J2CCCJE
[17:11:06] <Wolf_> almost 2x the price lol
[17:11:16] <Tom_shop> figures
[17:14:57] <Tom_shop> tigerdirect has gone to crap
[17:15:03] <Wolf_> yeah
[17:15:27] <Wolf_> I guess I’ll grab a q1900-itx from newegg for $75
[17:15:51] <Tom_shop> sounds about what i gave for mine, maybe slightly higher now
[17:15:52] <Wolf_> it does have a LPT header on the board
[17:16:08] <Tom_shop> you have 6ixx boards? pcie
[17:16:36] <Wolf_> planning on going with 7ixx
[17:16:40] <Tom_shop> maybe that one has both...
[17:16:46] <Tom_shop> mine only had the pcie
[17:16:50] <Tom_shop> the atx has both
[17:22:08] <Wolf_> anyone happen to know if lcnc will play nice with a miniPCIe wifi (cause lag?)
[17:28:20] <Tom_shop> will the real JT please stand up
[17:29:03] <XXCoder> all of em are
[17:29:11] <XXCoder> we are all jt
[17:29:21] <pcw_home> I had some bad experience with Broadcom mPCIE WIFI latency wise
[17:30:19] <Wolf_> hmm, well thats no good, I can always do a ethernet usb for network access
[17:32:22] <Frank_6> fusion 360 is driving me nuts
[17:37:10] * JT-Shop-2 thinks waiting till it's cold to put up insulation was a bad idea
[17:39:42] <XXCoder> lol
[17:47:20] * JT-Shop-2 takes five and listens to Dave Brubeck...
[17:48:18] <JT-Shop-2> XXCoder: can you feel sound?
[17:48:25] <XXCoder> depend
[17:48:42] <JT-Shop-2> on the frequency?
[17:52:21] <XXCoder> qand loudness
[17:52:29] <XXCoder> ampulute
[17:52:34] <XXCoder> cant spell that word
[17:57:10] <JT-Shop-2> amplitude
[17:57:18] <JT-Shop-2> I can't speel either lol
[17:57:50] <XXCoder> well whats up there, besides not temperate heh
[17:58:50] <Wolf_> wonder if this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103235 would run LCNC… I have two of them laying around, guess I’ll have to load one up and give it a shot
[18:03:42] <XXCoder> yeah
[18:03:54] <XXCoder> if its just laying around just check out see whjat happens
[18:04:01] <JT-Shop-2> putting up insulation in the new shop
[18:04:02] <XXCoder> if it dont work its not like you spend much money
[18:04:21] <XXCoder> JT-Shop-2: wonder what temperate there now. my rooms at 63f now lol
[18:06:43] <JT-Shop-2> 44f here outside
[18:06:57] <XXCoder> fun
[18:07:03] <JT-Shop-2> 53f in the new shop
[18:07:12] <XXCoder> 40f outside now apparently
[18:07:18] <JT-Shop-2> 75f in the other shop... wood heater
[18:08:03] <JT-Shop-2> going to try and get linuxmint 18 mate installed in the am then slic3r new version
[18:22:04] * JT-Shop-2 calls it a night
[18:25:13] <XXCoder> hey JT-Shop-2 where do I get prusa version of slic3r?
[18:25:32] <XXCoder> because one i compiled is just latest slic3r. better but not prusa version
[20:42:05] <newuser> Has anyone here used 80/20 to build a table? I can't find a tutorial on google - on what to buy and how to assemble
[20:45:04] <malcom2073> newuser: https://www.8020.net/xdiy1601
[20:45:14] <malcom2073> First result of google when I typed: "how to build a table with 8020"
[20:45:14] <malcom2073> :-P
[20:47:58] <newuser> malcom2073: I watched that video. The problems: 1) The parts they use are not listed in one place. Where did they get it from? Did they use standard sizes? 2) That is a coffee table recipe, not a CNC table - will it handle vibration/weight?
[20:48:21] <malcom2073> CNC table, you mean like a router, or like a table to support a CNC machine on top?
[20:48:32] <newuser> malcom2073: I was more looking for someone who had built one - so that they would list parts, where they bought it from
[20:48:45] <newuser> malcom2073: 6040 type machine
[20:48:50] <malcom2073> Ahhh
[20:48:57] <malcom2073> There are plans around, msot cost money though
[20:49:14] <newuser> malcom2073: I saw some people saying they did that in videos. How? Part lists?
[20:50:28] <malcom2073> Did what, built it, or purchased plans?
[20:51:28] <newuser> malcom2073: where can i get parts for these tables? Even for that coffee table that they are showing on video - building
[20:52:05] <malcom2073> You asking where to buy the extrusion itself? https://www.8020.net/shop
[20:53:20] <malcom2073> I personally use Misumi extrusion whenever I can though: https://us.misumi-ec.com/ It's significantly cheaper
[20:53:44] <newuser> malcom2073: thanks for that shop link- i did miss that
[20:56:52] <newuser> malcom2073: does misumi carry: https://8020.net/shop/45-4545-lite-black-fb.html ?
[20:57:11] <malcom2073> It carries equivalant, however be aware: Different extrusion manufacturers are not compatible with each other
[20:57:14] <malcom2073> in terms of the fasteners
[20:57:52] <newuser> I guess they patented the trivial patterns ? :)
[21:00:38] <CaptHindsight> just made them different to get you to buy their expensive fasteners and connectors
[21:01:14] <newuser> CaptHindsight: Maybe I'll use my new cnc machine to build fastners :)
[21:01:30] <newuser> connectors or whatever they call it
[21:01:58] <newuser> but i would still need the extrusion of given lengths - or i can cut it - am not sure how to cut it though...
[21:02:44] <CaptHindsight> circular saw with non-ferrous blade
[21:04:02] <newuser> malcom2073: https://us.misumi-ec.com/vona2/detail/110302683830/?Inch=0 - where is the price of this?
[21:04:25] <CaptHindsight> http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-15-Amp-12-in-Dual-Bevel-Miter-Saw-with-Laser-R4122/205598720 or similar
[21:04:30] <malcom2073> Select a model number, and it'll tell you
[21:04:34] <newuser> CaptHindsight: will that give me a clean cut? I guess I sand it down or something? I've no experience cutting metal
[21:04:47] <malcom2073> And length
[21:04:51] <CaptHindsight> with the right blade
[21:04:59] <newuser> i see
[21:05:07] <newuser> one cutting machine i dont own :)
[21:05:12] <newuser> I guess I could try to get one :)
[21:05:40] <CaptHindsight> 8020 is the bargain basement t-slot
[21:06:17] <CaptHindsight> if you design ahead you can order it all already cut and drilled
[21:06:23] <CaptHindsight> and tapped
[21:07:13] <newuser> 400cm = $35 on mitsumi and the other one was asking .66 / inch...
[21:08:00] <CaptHindsight> I buy the 20ft lengths and cut them
[21:08:16] <newuser> CaptHindsight: mitre saws? with right blades?
[21:08:24] <newuser> CaptHindsight: where do you buy it from?
[21:08:28] <malcom2073> I usually bandsaw, then mill the ends straight
[21:10:10] <newuser> does mitresaw with the right blade give clean cuts?
[21:10:11] <CaptHindsight> http://tenryu-saw.com/en/ichiran/hamono/choukou/nonmetal/nmt02/687/ I use these
[21:10:31] <CaptHindsight> I don't have to mill the ends
[21:11:18] <CaptHindsight> it's what the t-slot distis use
[21:11:41] <CaptHindsight> usually a 14" or larger miter saw
[21:12:11] <newuser> CaptHindsight: where do you buy your extrusions from? The 20 feet ones?
[21:12:47] <CaptHindsight> there's a 8020 disti near me
[21:13:17] <newuser> nice
[21:13:53] <newuser> what is this X-series? Base YY mean?
[21:14:14] <CaptHindsight> there is also an extruder near me if I want https://www.frame-world.com/
[21:15:14] <CaptHindsight> there is also a Bosch disti nearby
[21:16:51] <newuser> I think i'll have to buy online
[21:16:55] <newuser> Dont have anything nearby
[21:17:03] <CaptHindsight> what state?
[21:17:46] <newuser> https://us.misumi-ec.com/vona2/mech/M1500000000/M1501000000/M1501010000/ - On the left side, it says 3-series, 5-series etc? Do they mean naything?
[21:17:48] <newuser> CaptHindsight: North FL
[21:21:24] <CaptHindsight> https://www.8020.net/distributor-lookup-results?zip=32099
[21:22:41] <newuser> CaptHindsight: they both are multiple hours away from me
[21:22:58] <CaptHindsight> fastenal
[21:23:14] <newuser> we do have fastenal
[21:23:41] <newuser> CaptHindsight: they carry extrusions?
[21:24:04] <CaptHindsight> usually they have lengths in <3 days to your local store
[21:25:00] <newuser> CaptHindsight: seems like thier extrusions are very thick and heavy and expensive?
[21:25:06] <newuser> https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/0542336?term=extrusion
[21:25:35] <Wolf_> also could ebay, I got a bunch of 80/20 yard sale stuff
[21:25:42] <CaptHindsight> https://www.fastenal.com/products?r=~|categoryl1:%22600930%20Raw%20Materials%22|~%20~|categoryl2:%22602694%20Extruded%20T-Slot%20Bars%209and%20Accessories%22|~%20~|categoryl3:%22602693%20Extruded%20T-Slot%20Bars%22|~
[21:28:32] <newuser> ebay seems to have some 8 feet ones for $41
[21:30:17] <newuser> CaptHindsight: howmuch do you pay for 20 feet?
[21:30:20] <Wolf_> I picked up a bunch of stuff that was odd cut lengths, some stuff with holes in it, some scratched up, some out of tolerance
[21:30:23] <CaptHindsight> good luck with shipping 8ft lengths
[21:31:02] <Wolf_> I think they ups/fedex 8 footers
[21:31:52] <malcom2073> 8ft they'll ship, 12 is freight.
[21:32:09] <malcom2073> Picking the stuff up used/ding and dent is the way togo
[21:32:35] <malcom2073> At auctions you can typically (east coast USA) find it for around $1-2 per lb.
[21:35:16] <newuser> 8 feet will work for me
[21:35:46] <Wolf_> plan for cuts, going to lose some on each cut
[21:37:06] <Wolf_> http://stores.ebay.com/8020-Inc-Garage-Sale
[21:37:34] <dioz> hah
[21:37:37] <dioz> Hah AH h AHAHha
[21:37:42] <dioz> Wolf_: how's the whip?
[21:37:46] <dioz> whippin on 44's ?
[21:38:13] <Wolf_> naa
[22:16:26] <automata> hi andypugh
[22:17:28] <automata> following your patch on g71 g72 for turning... most excellent work..
[22:28:40] <CaptHindsight> floral t-slot https://ibin.co/34HsTI709hOX.jpg
[22:40:17] <pink_vampire> is that make any sense? cold rolled steel, 1/4" hss 4 flouts end mill, depth of cut 6.3mm, thickness of cut 0.2mm, 1000rpm feed 500mm/min?
[22:41:14] <Tom_L> no because it's mm
[22:41:16] <Tom_L> :)
[22:42:25] <Tom_L> sounds somewhat reasonable to me
[22:43:57] <pink_vampire> the chips fly like crazy
[22:44:28] <pink_vampire> most of the time i'm cutting on 50mm/min feed
[23:24:10] <pink_vampire> http://opensourcemachinetools.org/concrete-lathe/