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[00:27:23] <Jymmm> Tom_itx:
http://i.imgur.com/4pE7MSA.jpg
[02:30:03] <Deejay> moin
[03:15:38] <miss0r> archivist: you around?
[03:39:28] <CB70170> Bonjour, je cherche des personnes qui auraient une CNC Stepcraft
[03:46:14] <archivist> miss0r, was just out in the garden trying out an aircon unit had no heating in the house for a long while)
[03:46:57] <CB70170> Bonjour
[03:47:38] <archivist> 99% are english speakers in this channel
[03:48:03] <CB70170> il y a un canal en français
[03:48:14] <archivist> no
[03:48:23] <CB70170> il y a un canal en francais ?
[03:48:32] <archivist> use google translate
[03:48:38] <CB70170> ok
[03:49:44] <CB70170> Hello, I am looking for user of a cnc SPTEPCRAFT with LINUXCNC
[03:56:05] <archivist> CB70170, use the parallel interface for linuxcnc, I dont see too many problems looking at the website
[03:56:26] <miss0r> archivist: I am having some issues with my lathe. and It would seem you know your way around a machine shop. I have taken apart most of the gearbox, but I am having trouble figuering out how to remove the shaft with the cludge on it. It seems theres too much friction in there with the cludge disengaged, so I am going to remove it and give it a good cleaning. but this would require me to be able to get it out :)
[03:56:26] <miss0r> Are you willing to look at a few pictures, and tell me if you have an idea how to remove it ?
[03:56:43] <archivist> I dont remember anyone in here using that particular system
[03:57:40] <archivist> miss0r, sure as long as sensible paste site :)
[03:58:31] <archivist> when one of us gets rich should create a linuxcnc pastebin/imagebin
[03:58:32] <miss0r> yeah, i'll picpaste it ;)
[03:59:51] <miss0r> with permanent image storage
[04:02:27] <miss0r> http://picpaste.com/20161115_102937-qrb03v9Q.jpg http://picpaste.com/20161115_102941-hxfFkIOE.jpg http://picpaste.com/20161115_102945-WVEcjxx8.jpg http://picpaste.com/20161115_102952-SutTNNGv.jpg
[04:07:04] <archivist> looks like more removal on the outer left but not enough detail on
http://picpaste.com/20161115_102945-WVEcjxx8.jpg
[04:07:32] <miss0r> I'd have to pull on the axle then.
[04:07:45] <miss0r> the outside housing it a part of the casting
[04:07:58] <archivist> CB70170, better asking in channel not pm, use the stepconf utility to create one
[04:09:45] <archivist> difficult to see where input shaft stops and then output shaft
[04:10:05] <archivist> and is there a supporting bearing there
[04:10:50] <miss0r> its impossible for me to see as well
[04:11:39] <archivist> looks very much like standard wet plate clutch as in motorcycles
[04:14:23] <archivist> miss0r, there are pullers to pull on a ball groove, a bit rare though
[04:19:49] <miss0r> yeah... well, i'm not really one for pulling out a ballbearing - that I am going to reuse - in the center ring
[04:20:08] <miss0r> Just sold the big surface grinder for $1800
[04:20:42] <archivist> can regard ball bearings as a cheap throw away item
[04:21:17] <miss0r> you 'can' but they just look so nice and shiny :D plus i'm not made of money - the money earned on the surface grinder is already spend on the new one :)
[04:21:38] <archivist> convert to cnc and you dont need it
[04:21:54] <miss0r> hehe.
[04:22:21] <archivist> I have 0 spare cash for a while
[04:23:33] <archivist> trying to think how to fit an aircon unit without messing the house about too much
[04:30:03] <gonzo_> just put a veranda up and sit outside
[04:37:49] <SpeedEvil> archivist: veskimo
[04:38:19] <SpeedEvil> Or some fish-tank tubing, two t-shirts, a fish-tank pump, a thermos, and some ice and a small battery
[05:00:23] <archivist> SpeedEvil, I got a couple of 21000 btu aircons, which heat or cool, cheap heating
[05:00:50] <SpeedEvil> For small values of cheap.
[05:01:01] <SpeedEvil> Oh
[05:01:04] <SpeedEvil> I misread
[05:01:07] <archivist> but silly weather today, warmer outdoors than indoors
[05:01:21] <XXCoder> lost oppunity to see supermoon here :(
[05:01:29] <XXCoder> damned washington foreverrain
[05:01:36] <archivist> seems they are supposed to be cheaper to run than gas
[05:01:39] <SpeedEvil> Go to a local dairy farm, ask to see their best cow.
[05:01:42] <SpeedEvil> Their supermoo.
[05:01:49] <SpeedEvil> archivist: In some cases, yes.
[05:01:58] <SpeedEvil> archivist: dependant on COP and other factors
[05:02:05] <SpeedEvil> and relative electricity vs gas cost
[05:02:50] <archivist> well gas system here has been closed off since 2003, expensive to get going again (leaky pipes)
[05:03:33] <SpeedEvil> Really good heatpumps can exceed 5* COP
[05:03:53] <archivist> I expect these to be more like 3
[05:05:16] <XXCoder> wow
[05:05:17] <XXCoder> http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18026589/108-year-old-woman-born-same-year-chicago-cubs-last-won-world-series-dies
[05:05:36] <SpeedEvil> hah
[05:05:50] <archivist> actually the label states 1210 watts in 12000 btu/hr out
[05:07:33] <archivist> cop= 2.906489952
[05:07:46] <archivist> ish plus or minus a mile
[05:08:20] <SpeedEvil> that is possibly at a very unuseful delta-t and input temp
[05:08:54] <SpeedEvil> I've seen some heatpumps quote COP in heating mode with the input 10C hotter than the output
[05:09:07] <SpeedEvil> which is probably extreme, but still.
[05:09:15] <archivist> I was considering abusing correct fitting and having it indoors
[05:09:34] <SpeedEvil> As long as you can move the air.
[05:09:46] <archivist> it has fans
[05:09:48] <SpeedEvil> is this nomianlly a split or window unit?
[05:09:57] <archivist> a window unit
[05:10:16] <SpeedEvil> any small amount of resistance can greatly reduce the flow of the fans
[05:10:45] <archivist> uncased on a pile :)
[05:10:58] <archivist> no filter
[05:12:22] <SpeedEvil> err
[05:12:44] <SpeedEvil> ten how do you get the cool outside
[05:13:48] <archivist> why waste that energy on outside :)
[05:14:53] <SpeedEvil> I'm unclear on what you're trying to do
[05:15:19] <archivist> warm internal air
[05:15:33] <SpeedEvil> To do that, you need to cool air.
[05:15:45] <SpeedEvil> You want that to be outside air, if it's inside air, ...
[05:15:56] <archivist> to cool the sink yes
[05:17:05] <archivist> going on these prices it is touch and go unless the cop is above 3
http://www.confusedaboutenergy.co.uk/index.php/domestic-fuels/fuel-prices
[05:22:13] * The_Ball swears and orders three haimer tips
[05:31:13] <XXCoder> swear in
[05:38:14] <XXCoder> lol
http://interestingengineering.com/video/make-bladeless-fan-using-cheap-plastic-bucket/
[05:38:52] <XXCoder> though there is 3d printable version
[05:48:31] <XXCoder> ...
[05:48:39] <XXCoder> apparently disney owns mupperfucker.net
[05:48:49] <XXCoder> wonder why
[05:50:04] <XXCoder> http://cheezburger.com/8989710336/disney-owns-ridiculous-named-domain-name
[05:50:06] <XXCoder> interesting
[05:54:05] <jthornton> morning
[05:54:56] <XXCoder> hey
[05:56:51] <XXCoder> https://www.privacypop.com/shop/tent/privacy-pop-bed-tent/
[05:57:08] <XXCoder> naptime, bedtime, playtime, and alone time :P
[06:05:52] <jthornton> I want the one with the built in hover craft
[06:07:25] <Tom_itx> tie it to a big quadcopter
[06:25:09] <_methods> i'm sure if you fart it up enough in there you could get some propulsion going
[06:25:51] <XXCoder> or gas makes you fly
[07:22:39] <IchGucksLive> hi
[07:22:57] <IchGucksLive> icey rain her in germany
[07:23:32] <IchGucksLive> Q the debounce for a toolprobe shoudt i add it to base or saervo tread
[07:24:33] <Deejay> whut?
[07:24:56] <IchGucksLive> hi how is the weather up where you are
[07:25:10] <Deejay> +7°C and rainy
[07:25:12] <Deejay> no ice
[07:25:23] <tiwake> oh woah, OpenERP is bloody expensive
[07:25:30] <IchGucksLive> lucky you are
[07:25:34] <tiwake> and no so open
[07:25:39] <tiwake> *not
[07:25:49] <tiwake> changed its name to odoo
[07:26:31] <IchGucksLive> till later
[07:29:00] <sync> tiwake: looks pretty cheap to me, try buying sap ;)
[07:29:49] <tiwake> sync: when I last looked at it, OpenERP at the time was free in its entirety
[07:30:32] <tiwake> sync: the part I'm kinda bothered with is that its not all open source anymore
[07:32:08] <sync> yeah that's a bit annoying
[07:32:18] <tiwake> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odoo
[07:36:02] <tiwake> sync: how much is the sap thing?
[07:37:36] <sync> they'll start making you an offer if you give them 1M
[07:37:53] * tiwake rolls eyes
[07:38:10] <sync> could be worse
[07:38:21] <tiwake> shop I used to work at used E3
[07:38:22] <tiwake> erm
[07:38:23] <tiwake> E2
[07:39:17] <tiwake> donno how much it is now
[07:39:32] <tiwake> but the older version I used sucked big time elephant balls
[07:41:47] <sync> all of them do
[07:41:56] <sync> but the point is if you pay someone you can yell at them
[07:43:58] <tiwake> that does not help though
[07:44:45] <tiwake> and why I prefer all open source
[07:45:07] <sync> it does help
[07:45:12] <sync> because you yell at them until it works
[07:45:13] <tiwake> generally open source is more modular and well thought out
[07:46:55] <tiwake> anyway, I'm taking off for work
[07:46:56] <tiwake> TTFN
[08:17:02] <_methods> we use E2 and it works fine
[08:42:51] <jdh> we have oracle erp
[08:48:08] <archivist> I hate the "what the market will bare" pricing model erp sellers use
[08:59:09] <sync> it is what everybody uses archivist
[09:02:21] <JT-Shop> hmm what to get LCD or LED-Lit desktop monitor???
[09:10:08] <JT-Shop> https://www.amazon.com/HP-K7C09A8-ABA-LED-Backlit-Monitor/dp/B00ZD8N1HS/ref=sr_1_8?s=pc&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1479220497&sr=1-8&keywords=monitor&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A3547807011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6570749011%2Cp_85%3A2470955011%2Cp_72%3A1248879011
[09:12:34] <jdh> you need 2x2 of those
[09:13:04] <JT-Shop> I have two monitors on my desk now, one windoze and one linux
[09:16:24] <JT-Shop> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00L3KNOF4/ref=psdc_1292115011_t3_B00ZD8N1HS
[09:46:41] <gregcnc> Are they even making CFL backlit monitors anymore?
[09:48:28] <gregcnc> JT-shop were you using a SATA to IDE adapter, has it been working OK?
[09:55:00] <nubcake> hi
[10:27:48] <JesusAlos> hi
[11:15:38] <CaptHindsight> MSC has 30% off all machine tools and 35% off any cutting tools going on
[11:38:00] <jdh> I want to cut some 1/8" 6061 on my router. min spindle speed is 4krpm. I have 2-flute 1/8" and 3 flute 5/64" carbide end mills
[11:38:21] <jdh> any speed/feed suggestions
[11:47:27] <skunkworks> what is your max spindle rpm?
[11:48:34] <jdh> 24krpm
[11:50:56] <skunkworks> .001 a tooth would be about 48 in/min... I might half that and see how it cuts
[11:51:03] <skunkworks> at 24k
[11:51:29] <gregcnc> right .0005-.001" per tooth is the starting point
[11:51:36] <skunkworks> I just cut an o-ring groove at 25krpm - 1/8 cutter at 5 ipm
[11:51:49] <skunkworks> and that was probably very conservative..
[11:52:33] <jdh> 48 seems really fast for a chinese router
[11:52:54] <jdh> what DOC?
[11:53:37] <gregcnc> whatever the machine can handle
[11:54:41] <Loetmichel_> there are new Chinese watercooled 500W spindles out with 60k!
[11:55:02] <gregcnc> 0.5mm seems reliable when run dry
[11:55:31] <gregcnc> .02" that is
[11:56:02] <jdh> mine is 1.2kw watercooled
[11:56:31] <lowridah> i thought 6061 liked lower speeds
[11:57:03] <lowridah> spindle speed that is
[11:57:19] <Loetmichel_> jdh: 'cause of the missing rigidity on my CNC6040 i cut 6061 alu ( actually AlMg3 whatever that is in materals numbers) with multiple passes 0,15mm deep at 24krpm with 1200mm/min and a 2mm 2 flute carbide cutter
[11:57:39] <lowridah> lower spindle speed and doc and ipm tuned to take out 'shards' instead of flakes
[11:58:06] <Loetmichel_> lowridah: that only works if you have a rigd mill
[11:58:19] <Loetmichel_> i tend to produce more like aluminium "dust" ;)
[11:58:24] <lowridah> i do 6061 on my shapeoko 3 a lot with 1/8" and 1/4" 2flute endmills
[11:58:37] <lowridah> it's probably not as rigid as a 6040
[11:59:08] <lowridah> .1 to .25mm doc, i forget the speeds though
[11:59:17] <lowridah> and that's a belted railed router
[11:59:40] <lowridah> i guess not 'a lot'
[11:59:42] <Loetmichel_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqXauMOhWos <- this was about the maximum the gantry could take without distorting more than 0,1mm
[12:01:29] <Loetmichel_> these are 3mm hexagons btw ;)
[12:01:51] <Loetmichel_> looks nicer for cooling holes than drills
[12:02:23] <jdh> thats a lot of passes at 0.15mm DoC
[12:04:11] <Loetmichel_> yeah... tell me about it... the back and front of this enclosure are 4mm thick AlMg3... especially the back took "quite a while"... ->
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16414&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 ;-)
[12:05:21] <Loetmichel_> (and as you can see: the 6040 is to small for a decent 19" 2u enclosure... hat to do a mit of "magic" to get it done ;)
[12:05:56] <jdh> buy a waterjet
[12:06:48] <Loetmichel_> jdh: my boss had to begged for 3 years to shell out the €2k for that 6040. you think i would see that waterjet materialize before my retirement?
[12:07:30] <IchGucksLive> hi
[12:18:40] <JT-Shop> gregcnc: not me
[12:23:09] <Tom_itx> gregcnc, i've use sata - pata, pata - sata, sata - usb etc and so far they all seem to work fine
[12:23:38] <Tom_itx> mostly for transferring data to other places, not for permanent installs
[12:25:38] <gregcnc> great thanks, I have stuff I need to back up and I'm down to one PC with PATA. I may try a it on an ssd with old PC instead of CF i've done before.
[12:26:13] <Loetmichel_> niiice... i just found that nagging "diiiiiiiiiiidahhhhhhhhhdiiiiiiiidahhhhh" that was barely audible when totally quiet in my room the last few days... turns out that the IBM T61p on the shelve right behind me has some issues with its internal smps regulators when the battery is full. pulling the plug on the ( still turned off) notebook: nagging sound gone ;)
[12:26:18] <Tom_itx> they're cheap enough even if it didn't you wouldn't be out much
[12:26:55] <Tom_itx> http://www.ebay.com/itm/280697741373?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[12:26:57] <gregcnc> right I just don't want bad backups or flaky operation
[12:27:02] <Tom_itx> one such that i have
[12:27:52] <gregcnc> should have ordered one a long time ago
[12:27:53] <Tom_itx> http://www.ebay.com/itm/370962061058?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[12:27:56] <Tom_itx> another
[12:28:15] <Tom_itx> http://www.ebay.com/itm/171829231183?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[12:28:38] <Tom_itx> http://www.ebay.com/itm/262117008357?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[12:28:44] <Tom_itx> i have and have used all those
[12:29:39] <Tom_itx> http://www.ebay.com/itm/400972415164?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[12:29:52] <Tom_itx> i have one of those but it doesn't like to enumerate every time
[12:29:56] <Tom_itx> but overall it works ok
[12:30:14] <Tom_itx> it's if you wanna make a backup external drive on the cheap
[12:30:21] <Tom_itx> U supply the ssd or hdd
[12:31:16] <gregcnc> not looking for USB, thanks for the leads
[12:31:28] <Tom_itx> yeah, i've just tried all those
[12:33:03] <Tom_itx> i was able to install a ssd running dos 6.22 on an old legacy P100 and it worked fine
[12:33:13] <Tom_itx> rather fast too i may add
[12:37:56] <gregcnc> how much space does the current linuxcnc install need?
[12:38:20] <IchGucksLive> on what OS
[12:38:59] <IchGucksLive> Linux must have 4GB
[12:39:15] <IchGucksLive> you can easy install on a 8GB usb drive
[12:39:21] <gregcnc> 2.7 iso is wheezy?
[12:39:32] <IchGucksLive> 16 for all cam and simulatio is what i use
[12:39:51] <gregcnc> hdd?
[12:40:22] <IchGucksLive> all systems are developed for a 10GB
[12:41:44] <gregcnc> my older systems are on 4GB
[12:42:01] <IchGucksLive> thats what it says as min
[12:45:35] <Loetmichel> gregcnc: afair 4gb is still sufficient to install the recent linve-cd
[12:45:45] <gregcnc> ok
[12:45:50] <Loetmichel> you will have only 500Mb left or so tho
[12:46:22] <gregcnc> about the same as the older ones
[12:48:16] <archivist> http://hackaday.com/2016/05/23/hackaday-prize-entry-industrial-servo-control-on-the-cheap/
[12:52:52] <CaptHindsight> 24V bus voltage?
[12:54:00] <FinboySlick> That's pretty neat.
[12:54:01] <archivist> not a lot but up to 150A
[12:54:50] <CaptHindsight> I don't recall the last servo I used that was under 100V
[12:55:55] <CaptHindsight> do they have lugs for the #0 copper wires? :)
[12:57:02] <miss0r> archivist: Sorry I ran out on our conversation earlier. I had to rush to the kindergarden to pick up my kid, which they thought had pink eye, which turned out to be nothing. But in any case, that messed up his afternoon nap, which in turn left me with a screaming kid the rest of the day. *sigh*.
[12:57:15] <archivist> I suppose they are coming from the bldc r/c end of the spectrum where batteries are driving motors
[12:57:25] <miss0r> anyway. I'm back looking at the lathe now.
[12:57:53] <archivist> I went out later fitting a cctv
[12:58:49] <CaptHindsight> why does hackaday make it so difficult to find the actual info or project website?
[12:58:58] <miss0r> I'm sure i'll be glad I have CCTV one day. at the moment the harddrives are just filling up with cats and birds. sometimes even trees, if it is windy enough
[12:59:05] <andypugh> There is typically an bvious link in the text
[12:59:25] <andypugh> CaptHindsight: Which story?
[12:59:37] <CaptHindsight> odrive
[12:59:49] <archivist> CaptHindsight, end of discussion for the link to project details
[13:00:16] <archivist> the details ish
https://hackaday.io/project/11583-odrive-high-performance-motor-control/log/40702-boards-and-development
[13:00:49] <archivist> andypugh, cant chase that level toy till I retire
[13:01:02] <archivist> have to wait for another
[13:01:18] <andypugh> No, either somone knows what it really is, or is too stupid to look at photos.
[13:01:27] <CaptHindsight> https://hackaday.io/project/11583-odrive-high-performance-motor-control ah this page has the links on the left column
[13:01:41] <IchGucksLive> my bits ordert on 23september from HK arte still not here
[13:15:19] * MacGalempsy is waiting for auto service...
[13:17:52] <miss0r> archivist: I decided to have a go at pulling the main axle. in turn pulling on the inner ring of the bearings. But as it turns out, it didn't take alot of force, so the bearings came out unmarked :)
[13:19:10] <archivist> I did wonder if it would be that easy
[13:20:18] <archivist> even a rubber hammer on the leadscrew end
[13:21:50] <MacGalempsy> does anyone have experience with using linuxcnc and ramps?
[13:22:32] <MacGalempsy> together ;)
[13:32:21] <Tom_L> MacGalempsy is that as bad as waiting at the doctor's office?
[13:32:48] <MacGalempsy> car dealership
[13:33:14] <MacGalempsy> the are showing an oak island tv show
[13:33:19] <Tom_L> at least they have cool stuff to look at
[13:33:31] <Tom_L> better than staring at crooked pictures on the wall..
[13:33:59] <MacGalempsy> hah. yep. i usually make a walk thru the used cars
[13:34:39] <miss0r> archivist: Not 'that' easy. :) I had to use two 10mm bolts, one on each side of the axle, and taking it slow from there, but not alot of torque was required
[13:35:52] <IchGucksLive> Gn8
[13:39:42] <MacGalempsy> https://flic.kr/p/AL6sZd
[13:40:21] <MacGalempsy> got the bed mocked up. just need to print a few things and it will be time to mount the bed
[14:02:02] <miss0r> is it concieveable that a metal on metal cludge(10 layers) should run dry? I feel like theres too much friction generated when it is lubricated with oil
[14:04:17] <archivist> clutch
[14:05:05] <miss0r> yes. Is that thinkable?
[14:06:42] <miss0r> pardon my engrish
[14:06:51] <archivist> a viscous drag v air drag will be very different
[14:09:27] <miss0r> yeah. some of the plates in the clutch were somewhat scarred, so I gave them a onceover with a stone. not they seem nice. I put the clutch back together, and it felt good, right until i added oil. now the drag seems too high. the amount of torque the clutch will allow through in disengaged condition, will definitely spin the chuck
[14:10:22] <archivist> maybe a much lighter oil
[14:10:58] <archivist> something with a bit of moly in it to stop the pickup
[14:11:00] <miss0r> yeah, but it seems that whatever I do now, the internal oiler (paddlewheel) will fill it at some point with the gearbox oil.
[14:12:06] <archivist> do you have the specified oil in there anyway
[14:13:18] <miss0r> i'm gonna go with 'hell no' :) I can't find the specification for that anywhere
[14:13:44] <miss0r> but looking at the way the axle seals are made, a thinner oil would spell dissaster
[14:30:16] <JT-Shop> yea! the internet fixed my backhoe... now I can finish the retaining wall but the ballasts came in so I need to change 16 of them and hang lights and and and
[14:30:49] <DaViruz> that's very nice of the internet considering how many times backhoes have broken the internet :)
[14:36:03] <miss0r> thats it for tonight. have a good one people
[15:16:41] <CaptHindsight> MacGalempsy: isn't RAMPS just a breakout and buffer board for the *duino?
[15:18:01] <CaptHindsight> http://reprap.org/mediawiki/images/thumb/3/3f/Arduinomegapololushieldschematic.png/800px-Arduinomegapololushieldschematic.png
[15:41:22] <nubcake> gn8
[15:41:30] <Deejay> n8 nubbi
[15:47:36] <MacGalempsy> CaptHindsight: yeah. i had heard someone has done a hal2arduino firmware that works with the ramps stack
[15:48:37] <MacGalempsy> just intetested in how well it worked
[15:53:42] <CaptHindsight> MacGalempsy: ramps has no stack, it's mostly a board with passives
[15:54:18] <CaptHindsight> HAL with an arduino is another story
[15:56:44] <FloppyDisk525> There's some arduino <--> Hal component stuff... Thought AndyPugh was using that as well, but not sure where. Here's one:
[15:56:45] <FloppyDisk525> https://emergent.unpythonic.net/01198594294
[15:57:35] <andypugh> I had an Arduino talking to a Mesa UART for a while, but gave up on it in the end.
[15:58:25] <andypugh> Not because it was a bad idea, but because the interface from the Resolver to the Arduino wasn’t very good at what it was meant to d.
[16:00:42] <FloppyDisk525> Got it - thanks...
[16:32:59] <Deejay> gn8
[17:03:57] <dioz> i need a spot welder
[17:04:31] <BeachBumPete> you can make one there are plans online ;)
[17:05:44] <lowridah> https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=68865
[17:05:58] <lowridah> spot welder diy for battery cell work
[17:06:24] <andypugh> I got one at an autojumble. Though I very rarely use it.
[17:07:49] <andypugh> A bit like this, but oldert”
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SIP-Spotmatic-Spot-Welder-F-Class-240-Volt-/142179986376?hash=item211a966bc8:g:SnEAAOSwo4pYKuO0
[17:17:15] <dioz> BeachBumPete: a microwave right?
[17:18:28] <BeachBumPete> I don't recall but it was made from readily available parts and seemed to work quite well
[18:05:10] <JT-Shop> https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Performance-Processor-Bluetooth/dp/B01JN4E00Y/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1479252917&sr=1-11&keywords=laptop&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A7817234011%2Cp_n_operating_system_browse-bin%3A2232493011%2Cp_72%3A1248879011
[18:17:30] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Forget it, there's no 5.25" FDD
[18:17:42] <JT-Shop> lol
[18:18:31] <JT-Shop> got a dvd
[18:18:43] <Jymmm> Yeah, that was a bit surprising.
[18:19:13] <JT-Shop> griller reminds me of woody, likes to sit in my lap in the evening
[18:29:11] <Jymmm> grill, wood, I think I'm seeing a pattern here.
[20:15:53] <zeeshan> hi
[20:26:27] <zeeshan> the more i use other cnc controllers
[20:26:29] <zeeshan> the more i love linucnc.
[20:26:33] <zeeshan> linuxcnc
[20:26:49] <zeeshan> rigid tapping is an OPTION on cnc machines
[20:26:50] <zeeshan> ROFL
[20:26:57] <zeeshan> they disable it in software
[20:27:34] <Tom_L> ever use haas?
[20:27:55] <zeeshan> no
[20:27:59] <zeeshan> the more i learn mazatrol
[20:28:02] <zeeshan> i can see its benefits
[20:28:10] <zeeshan> but asap you steer away from simple slots and hole patterns
[20:28:21] <zeeshan> cam pretty much is superior
[20:28:24] <Tom_L> they use those at the uni
[20:28:33] <Tom_L> i've never run those yet
[20:36:29] <kyle___> the drill press is here!!!
[20:36:43] <kyle___> ... at my apartment, and i'm still at the office
[20:36:44] <kyle___> piss.
[20:38:03] <gregcnc> should I be using something other than unetbootin to make bootable USB?
[20:50:01] <Tom_L> i've used rufus
[20:50:36] <Tom_L> i've used unetbootin
[20:51:21] <Tom_L> iirc there may be something about the newer versions and usb on the install instructions
[20:51:33] <Tom_L> been too long..
[20:51:36] <gregcnc> I finally got something working
[20:52:20] <Tom_L> last time i installed win8.1 was from a thumbdrive
[20:53:29] <malcom2073_> Tom_L: for what, a windows install?
[20:53:35] <Tom_L> yes
[20:53:50] <malcom2073_> Use the windows install cd creator:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/windows-usb-dvd-download-tool
[20:53:54] <Duc> I just used a thumbdrive for windows 8.1 also
[20:54:33] <gregcnc> I was having trouble with I think unetbootin writing it's own boot loader over what's in the isos
[20:54:36] <Tom_L> malcom2073_ i did that but the laptop has no dvd
[20:54:47] <malcom2073_> Tom_L: Point it to a USB stick then
[20:55:03] <Tom_L> so i used rufus iirc to put the image on the thumb
[20:55:16] <malcom2073_> Yeah, you need to use the USB download tool
[20:55:24] <malcom2073_> that I linked, to make it bootable to the windows installer
[20:55:36] <Tom_L> it all worked out in the end... don't recall the exact steps
[20:55:43] <Tom_L> i have tools to do both here
[20:55:59] <Tom_L> i had the MS link
[20:56:55] <Tom_L> mine may have been slightly different than that
[20:57:44] <Duc> I seem to remember the tool even downloaded the ISO from microsoft
[20:58:24] <Tom_L> yeah i got the iso there
[20:59:14] <Tom_L> that tool looks the same as what i have
[20:59:24] <gregcnc> now i'm trying to see if any of my old hdd are more than paperweights using the UBCD
[21:05:09] <Duc> Still odd to have 80 gig hard drives laying around
[21:05:43] <gregcnc> hah i'm checking a 10GB
[21:05:50] <Tom_L> so it's real odd to have a 60Mb one?
[21:06:28] <gregcnc> 30 years old?
[21:06:43] <Tom_L> i'd guess so yeah
[21:07:13] <Tom_L> the old st238 rll finally died a couple years back
[21:07:22] <Tom_L> it had a rough life
[21:07:34] <Tom_L> lid was off at least a couple times
[21:07:43] <Tom_L> slammed against a wall at least once
[21:07:50] <Tom_L> still worked
[21:08:14] <Tom_L> we had an understanding....
[21:08:31] <gregcnc> the 10GB has 5500 hours but no errors
[22:11:34] <canidsong> anybody alive who can advise on spindle control for x2-type benchtop mills?
[22:11:46] <canidsong> or for that matter 7x14 lathes?
[22:19:00] <Wolf_> same head almost lol
[22:21:30] <Wolf_> what do you mean spindle control?
[22:22:25] <canidsong> I want advise on a pwm speed controller if I can manage to do that.
[22:23:51] <Wolf_> I’m not well versed in that stuff, but I was thinking about a 3ph brushless sewing machine motor and a VFD for my x2
[22:24:14] <canidsong> the mill has a 110vDC motor and controller that I think might be after-market but I can't clearly remember what the buddy I got the mill from did to it.
[22:24:14] <canidsong> I helped with the ball screw conversion and such but it was probably 7 years ago
[22:24:15] <Tom_L> didn't you blow one of those up?
[22:24:32] <canidsong> mostly I'm curious to know what my reasonable options are on the mill
[22:24:51] <Wolf_> Tom_L: yeah, I blew up the sewing controller board...
[22:25:11] <Tom_L> i wondered what ever came of that testing
[22:25:45] <Wolf_> currently I’m thinking about taking the servo part out of the loop and just using a VFD
[22:26:14] <Tom_L> variable speed from 0-2500 rpm
[22:26:18] <Wolf_> it is just a 3 ph 3/4hp motor in theory after all right?
[22:26:22] <Tom_L> you may be able to tap into the pot
[22:26:35] <Tom_L> you may need an isolation board to do that though
[22:26:43] <Tom_L> that's what i did on my sherline mill
[22:27:16] <Tom_L> 0-10v gives me the full rpm range
[22:27:24] <Tom_L> mine is ~5500 rpm though
[22:27:29] <Wolf_> real pain in the ass is some of those 110dc controllers want the rpm to go to 0 before turning on
[22:27:49] <Tom_L> i fixed the problems on mine
[22:27:56] <Wolf_> ahh
[22:27:56] <Tom_L> don't recall what they all were now
[22:27:59] <canidsong> mine is that way
[22:27:59] <canidsong> that or it wants a contact opened/closed
[22:28:03] <canidsong> there's a decided 'snap' betore it's reset
[22:28:22] <Tom_L> mine had something similar
[22:28:41] <canidsong> The pot might just have a set of contacts at the CCW-most point of travel
[22:28:49] <Tom_L> i also got reverse from a controller that didn't have it
[22:28:53] <Wolf_> my x1 only has shutdown because of that, I need to set the RPM before the program runs
[22:29:12] <canidsong> if that's what's going on, a relay fixes that but I haven't gotten that far.
[22:29:41] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/PDF/
[22:29:49] <canidsong> I'm fairly sure I can do spindle tach with a microcontroller but that's another thing I haven'
[22:29:50] <Tom_L> see if you have either of those controllers
[22:29:53] <canidsong> t gotten around to.
[22:29:56] <Tom_L> KBIC or KBLC
[22:30:32] <Tom_L> i bet it's similar to one of em
[22:31:34] <Tom_L> if so, you _will_ need the KBSI isolation board
[22:31:59] <Tom_L> unless you gut it for a different controller
[22:32:49] <Tom_L> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsjde_pKUkk&feature=youtu.be
[22:32:55] <Tom_L> after the conversion
[22:34:14] <Wolf_> heh, nice, I may have to look at that for the x1 or maybe do something stupid like CNC my taig lathe
[22:34:24] <Tom_L> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g99lUtjLfMU&feature=youtu.be
[22:34:33] <Tom_L> a newer same thing using aluminum
[22:34:56] <Tom_L> the spindle doesn't have enough poop to do that really
[22:35:31] <Tom_L> but the threads were good, that's proof linuxcnc will do synchronous motion and follow the axis
[22:36:15] <Wolf_> now a ebay VFD on a bigger machine will do the same thing right?
[22:36:26] <Tom_L> i don't see why not
[22:36:39] <Tom_L> the control i used wasn't meant to do that
[22:36:42] * Wolf_ needs to RTFM
[22:37:59] <tiwake> http://www.wazer.com/specs/
[22:38:03] <tiwake> no linux support
[22:38:12] <Tom_L> i've got some builtin delays on the reverse so it doesn't cook the relays. it switches at near zero power
[22:38:15] <Wolf_> the sewing controllers would be neat if you could get the code or programming instructions for them, they have some stuff in them that looks like it would work great for a mill…
[22:38:43] <Tom_L> keep hacking.. just stop blowing em up
[22:38:48] <Wolf_> lol
[22:39:28] <canidsong> if you're not breaking them you're not making them.
[22:39:30] <canidsong> :P
[22:39:57] <Tom_L> careful steps can prevent alot of that
[22:39:58] <canidsong> I really want to take a picture of this controller, I just really don't want to pick this machine up and move it to do so
[22:40:56] <Wolf_> I forgot how I blew up the first board, I think I shorted the control wiper to the heatsink
[22:44:42] <canidsong> I wonder if there's a high speed servo suitable for an X2 spindle for machining steel that isn't worth several times what the machine is
[22:44:42] <canidsong> I guess I probably doubt that.
[22:46:21] <Jymmmm> Has anyone heard of "RVS sheet metal"?
[22:49:41] <Wolf_> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLDSTAR-GBSM-34-Industrial-Sewing-Machine-Brushless-Servo-Motor-550-Watt3-4HP-/282150829355?hash=item41b17ffd2b:g:EHkAAOSwaB5XwIkq
[22:50:04] <Wolf_> thats what I’m messing around with for my x2 (I think I got a 750w tho)
[22:51:19] <canidsong> good night folks, I'm back to work
[22:51:29] <canidsong> Thanks for the advise
[23:04:28] <ayjay_t> hey someone on here before recommended a usb microscope, i'm gonna buy one i was wondering if anyone got a cheap one that they liked
[23:04:52] <Jymmmm> purpose?
[23:05:16] <ayjay_t> just for circuit inspection type stuff
[23:05:21] <ayjay_t> maybe for some image recognition down the line
[23:06:01] <Jymmmm> looks at the reviews on amazon would be my suggestion
[23:06:30] <ayjay_t> thanks jymmmm, i was just asking because someone was talking about it earlier
[23:06:49] <Jymmmm> k
[23:10:20] <ayjay_t> meh for the record amazon has gone to crap
