#linuxcnc | Logs for 2016-10-11

[00:00:03] <CaptHindsight> Constrained Layer Damping
[00:14:27] <CaptHindsight> Valen: https://www.hindawi.com/journals/isrn/2014/928278/ Flexural Fatigue-Life Assessment and Strength Prediction of Glass Fibre Reinforced Polymer Concrete Composites
[00:16:53] <CaptHindsight> Constrained Layer Damping for damping and fiberglass for improved fatigue life
[00:35:33] <Jymmmm> CaptHindsight: I just want to see the skateboard for that bearing!!!
[00:39:41] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: and it probably has better tolerances than most skate bearings
[01:13:01] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Heh
[01:13:11] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: You're up late =)
[01:44:58] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: no later than usual :)
[01:45:06] <Jymmm> ah
[01:45:21] <CaptHindsight> all is well?
[01:45:37] <CaptHindsight> wiring all done?
[01:46:17] <Jymmm> Yeah, only took a year =)
[01:46:41] <CaptHindsight> better late than never
[01:47:01] <CaptHindsight> and a good thing that you haven't had to use it
[01:47:05] <Jymmm> Unpacked the laser tube today, gonna fire it up tomorrow and test the new circuit =)
[01:47:20] <CaptHindsight> CO2 or Yag?
[01:47:33] <Jymmm> oh I've HAD to use it, but there was no choice.
[01:47:35] <Jymmm> CO2
[01:48:02] <CaptHindsight> I can't tell you or you'll hate me about the deals I've been fining of RF laser tubes
[01:48:03] <Jymmm> just a series of unfortunant events prevented mefrom doing so a years ago
[01:48:19] <CaptHindsight> fining/finding
[01:48:43] <Jymmm> I'd hate you a LOT less if they showed up at my doorstep ;)
[01:49:02] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: do you etch or cut mostly?
[01:49:45] <Jymmm> both, depending on what I'm doing. I PREFER to cut, (faster), but it never works out that way =)
[01:51:04] <Jymmm> Now, you find me a nice galvo...
[01:51:13] <CaptHindsight> I've been building machines to sinter lately, metals and thermoplastics
[01:51:49] <CaptHindsight> 1064nm and 10.6um, 405nm
[01:52:20] <CaptHindsight> what wavelength do you need? 1064nm yag?
[01:52:38] <Jymmm> Crrection... SEND me a nice YaG galvo =)
[01:53:00] <Jymmm> the need for speed =)
[01:53:09] <CaptHindsight> analog or XY(something) digital?
[01:53:35] <CaptHindsight> <100w?
[01:53:55] <Jymmm> IF it's yag, <100W would be great -
[01:54:30] <Jymmm> if it's CO2, then 150-200W I think is the limit at 120VAC
[01:54:44] <CaptHindsight> I have some 10mm 2-axis mirrors and drivers that I probably won't use
[01:55:03] <CaptHindsight> with galvo motors already mounted
[01:55:53] <CaptHindsight> hey wait a minute, on ebay there is a place near you with 2 2-axis galvos on fleabay for $300 ea
[01:56:44] <CaptHindsight> they don't respond to emails but they ship UPS ground from somewhere central CA
[01:56:57] <CaptHindsight> Outback6
[01:59:11] <CaptHindsight> from the garlic capitol of the world. Gilroy
[02:00:21] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/G126797-General-Scanning-E00-7010520-X-Y-Galvo-Motor-Assembly-/331864725205
[02:00:27] <Jymmm> Yeah, I'm not near there anymore =)
[02:00:27] <Jymmm> Would always LOVE the smell of the garlic in the summer time
[02:00:27] <Jymmm> It would travel 30 miles north, it was that striong
[02:00:28] <Jymmm> strong
[02:01:17] <Jymmm> $300 "parts / not working".... no thanks.
[02:01:29] <CaptHindsight> well they have no clue
[02:01:40] <CaptHindsight> $4k new
[02:01:57] <CaptHindsight> they are either analog or XY100
[02:02:44] <CaptHindsight> seems the laser show "makers" have sucked up all the surplus galvos
[02:02:59] <Jymmm> It's all a WANT, not NEED right now.
[02:03:09] <Jymmm> ah
[02:03:53] <CaptHindsight> there are several available from Thailand, Malaysia etc on fleabay as well
[02:04:15] <CaptHindsight> mostly Cambridge
[02:04:41] <CaptHindsight> http://www.camtech.com/
[02:11:21] <CaptHindsight> if you have the skills there are several Domino scan heads there as well, no specs but they are mostly 10mm mirror Yag or CO2
[02:12:34] <CaptHindsight> the main difference is 0.5% loss vs 2% through the optics
[02:15:30] <Jymmm> Yeah, just not there yet. Like I said, just got the laser unpacked and still need to do a complete cleaning/service to the machine (no clue if it even survived the move yet). Plus I still need to setup a LAN, computers and data cables in the garage.
[02:16:25] <Jymmm> But, I'll have four days of non stop rain to deal with it - oh joy
[02:23:51] <Deejay> moin
[02:37:22] <pink_vampire> hiiiii
[02:40:17] <pink_vampire> any life here?
[05:20:38] <jthornton> morning
[05:20:44] <XXCoder> hey
[05:24:32] <jthornton> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1818785
[05:24:49] <jthornton> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1818758
[05:25:09] <XXCoder> looking
[05:26:10] <XXCoder> its refusing to load
[05:26:29] <jthornton> smack it around a bit till it quits refusing
[05:26:48] <XXCoder> what if it refuses to stop refusing tomload? lol
[05:28:12] <XXCoder> think router here is having issue
[05:29:00] <XXCoder> pages is loading
[05:29:04] <XXCoder> pictures wont load
[05:29:41] <XXCoder> hm all amazonaws images. strange
[05:29:47] <XXCoder> other site had same issue
[05:31:25] <jthornton> strange
[05:31:42] <XXCoder> amazon isnt loading
[05:31:57] <jthornton> anyhow got the payoff working and got rid of the cardboard boxes I was using lol
[05:32:16] <jthornton> bridging ended up being 10mm/s
[05:32:21] <XXCoder> wow someone managed to affect amazon? they get HUGE DDOS each dec that outstrips whatever ddos system people setup
[05:32:31] <XXCoder> ddos called customers lol
[05:42:11] <jthornton> what ever that is lol
[05:43:01] <XXCoder> oh disbrated denial of service
[05:43:21] <XXCoder> lots computer constantly accessing server so it cant serve normal users
[05:47:29] <XXCoder> its not dns
[05:47:36] <XXCoder> nslookup instantly worked
[05:51:35] <jthornton> ah
[05:52:23] <jthornton> I ordered a new extruder
[05:53:21] <jthornton> https://www.seemecnc.com/products/ezrstruder
[06:11:01] <XXCoder> still partially not working
[06:11:30] <jthornton> not sure when you left but did you see the link to the extruder I ordered?
[06:11:38] <XXCoder> yah it wouldnt load
[06:11:50] <XXCoder> trying to fix
[06:11:57] <jthornton> ok
[06:18:02] <XXCoder> dammit
[06:18:04] <XXCoder> it was magical fix
[06:18:09] <XXCoder> checking links now
[06:18:47] <XXCoder> nice!
[06:18:54] <XXCoder> looking for extruder
[06:27:37] <XXCoder> interesting
[06:27:40] <XXCoder> direct drive eh
[06:28:01] <jthornton> yea with a constrained path for the filament after the gear
[06:29:20] <jthornton> I figured for $40 delivered it was 1000% better than the one that came with the kit
[06:30:06] <XXCoder> bowden do give so much tuning issues lol
[06:30:22] <XXCoder> still getting wobble? heh
[06:30:25] <jthornton> the core xy will have direct
[06:30:38] <jthornton> your still getting wobble?
[06:31:09] <XXCoder> *you
[06:31:21] <XXCoder> sorry though I said your by mistake lol
[06:31:33] <XXCoder> nope gone ever since I installed it
[06:31:50] <jthornton> I can't seen any wobble on mine when it is printing
[06:31:55] <jthornton> must have been lucky
[06:32:35] <XXCoder> yeah
[06:32:39] <XXCoder> mine wasnt too bad
[06:32:46] <XXCoder> but added it and its gone
[06:33:56] <XXCoder> lol cemistry video autocaptions: "today we're making an assole which is somewhat nice-smelling organic..."
[06:34:15] <XXCoder> that guy speaks pretty nice so word error is rare but thats such a funny misword
[06:36:07] <jthornton> I guess the big challenge on the core xy is building a rigid Z axis
[06:37:06] <jthornton> zlog
[06:38:20] <jthornton> http://imgur.com/a/uxNtj
[06:38:41] <XXCoder> you building that? or that your image?
[06:39:01] <jthornton> a guy on the reprap is building that
[06:39:27] <jthornton> jsteve something
[06:39:57] <XXCoder> nice
[06:40:03] <XXCoder> I do want a delta but dunnp
[06:40:07] <jthornton> looks good
[06:40:28] <Tom_itx> guy at the uni is making a delta
[06:40:42] <jthornton> delta looks cool but I think the core xy can be more rigid
[06:40:47] <jthornton> morning Tom_itx
[06:40:47] <XXCoder> annoying part is vitamins
[06:40:58] <Tom_itx> morning
[06:41:11] <Tom_itx> depends on the precision of the joints
[06:41:37] <XXCoder> dunno belts just dont make for super rigid system I would think
[06:41:55] <Tom_itx> tradeoff is wobble
[06:41:58] <jthornton> G10 with steel core are pretty good
[06:45:48] <XXCoder> "now top is almost entirely an asshole"
[06:47:06] <jthornton> hmm core xz looks interesting
[06:47:33] <XXCoder> jthornton: from what i read, nothing beats delta on speed AND precision
[06:48:11] <jthornton> what about print area?
[06:48:31] <XXCoder> if using chinese heater youre limited to 200mm rad
[06:48:44] <XXCoder> height is limited to what yiu build
[06:48:50] <XXCoder> but usually dont need heat
[06:49:24] <jthornton> you still use belts for the axes, but they are cool to watch
[06:49:37] <jthornton> whats a current design for a delta?
[06:49:54] <XXCoder> heh most recent I read os BigDelta
[06:49:59] <XXCoder> its at #BigDelta lol
[06:50:06] <XXCoder> its big
[06:53:01] <jthornton> why don't you need heat for a delta bed?
[06:53:38] <XXCoder> dunno whats what peoples saying
[06:53:46] <XXCoder> maybe they always use pla or something
[06:57:49] <jthornton> so a kossel is from 2012 is there any newer designs?
[06:58:45] <XXCoder> http://reprap.org/wiki/Rostock
[06:59:01] <jthornton> lol just looking at that page
[07:00:18] <jthornton> I guess they are all similar in design just using different construction methods
[07:00:39] <XXCoder> yeah
[07:00:48] <XXCoder> simplest seem to be 2020 build
[07:00:56] <XXCoder> or other type that has V grooves
[07:01:06] <XXCoder> same as 2020 but v grooved
[07:01:12] <jthornton> seems to be the most rigid with a 2020 frame and linear rails
[07:01:51] <XXCoder> screws is too slow for that use if I recall
[07:02:35] <jthornton> I'd bet ball screws would work with a fast lead
[07:03:00] <XXCoder> theres 4 thread ballscrew thats definitely fast enough
[07:03:15] <XXCoder> or 4 thread leadscrew hm
[07:04:27] <James628> jthornton: Hi John, I just wrote an e-mail regarding 7i92H in your webshop. Will you have it in stock soon ?
[07:06:52] <jthornton> website shows it in stock, let me verify iirc I have one
[07:09:33] <James628> I have one already in shopping cart, but I need 2, I was warned ...
[07:10:16] <jthornton> yes I think I only have one, I should have more sometime next week
[07:13:22] <pink_vampire> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:896557
[07:13:27] <James628> I can wait until next week. How should I proceed ? Remove all items from cart and retry next week? Just don't want to miss it next week..
[07:13:42] <XXCoder> LOL PLA atomic model made from PLA
[07:14:23] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: it will need toooons of support
[07:14:35] <XXCoder> and pretty well calibrated printer
[07:14:56] <pink_vampire> yeah.
[07:15:02] <pink_vampire> it was a joke
[07:15:14] <XXCoder> I wonder if it can be converted to click together mode;
[07:15:18] <XXCoder> model
[07:15:32] <jthornton> James628: I do have one 7i92 if that works for you
[07:15:35] <XXCoder> because its funny to have PLA plastic atom model made from opla
[07:17:26] <jthornton> http://atomicfilament.com/collections/petg-3d-printer-filament-us-made-with-free-shipping/products/carbon-fiber-black-petg-pro?variant=26891393281
[07:18:20] <XXCoder> I saw his print with ir
[07:18:22] <XXCoder> wow!
[07:19:00] <James628> jthornton: the conector (DB25/IDC) is the only difference between 7i92H and 7i90
[07:20:10] <jthornton> the 7i92M 7i92 and 7i92H are the same except for the connectors
[07:22:03] <jthornton> I'm going to get some of that CF PETG
[07:22:32] <XXCoder> I ordered one of https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IIAC2MW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[07:22:33] <XXCoder> lol
[07:23:11] <jthornton> speckled
[07:23:26] <XXCoder> yrh it says marble but really its s[peckled
[07:27:45] <malcom2073_> Looks like an oreo milkshake heh
[07:27:57] <XXCoder> yeah
[07:28:01] <XXCoder> didnt think of that
[07:28:06] <XXCoder> but look at 3d printed stuff
[07:28:12] <malcom2073_> Looks nifty
[07:28:18] <XXCoder> looks like some kind of stone thats marble-like but not
[07:28:30] <malcom2073_> certainly pulls attention away from the layer striations
[07:28:41] <XXCoder> indeed
[07:30:07] <malcom2073_> I may pick up a roll
[07:30:11] <jthornton> time to hit the elliptical
[07:30:15] <malcom2073_> Ohhh it's 1.75 doh
[07:31:33] <XXCoder> doh
[07:44:06] <KreAa> hey guys, you think there's a market for a mini-pciexpress board for linuxcnc?
[07:44:14] <KreAa> There'd have to be added support for it in linuxcnc so some work to do
[07:44:21] <KreAa> something like 24 IO's seem possible with minimal effort though
[07:45:50] <malcom2073_> If it was cheaper than a pi/e-mesa combo, I'd go for it.
[07:47:48] <KreAa> well it looks like it can be done very cheaply
[07:48:17] <KreAa> using a pcie bridge chip wich can host gpio in addition to the lpt/serial that is typical we only need some driver
[07:48:36] <KreAa> asix is coming with a new chip now that would be interesting there as it is also much smaller
[07:48:41] <KreAa> easier to fit
[07:49:53] <KreAa> The new chip has 24 GPIO's instead of the old 6 or 8
[07:50:10] <KreAa> They are individually programmable and can even generate interrupt as inputs
[07:50:37] <KreAa> Good for probing or emergency stops parhaps?
[07:51:08] <KreAa> The new chip AX99100 is a bit hard to get a hold of so far though
[08:14:49] <KreAa> malcom2073_: I was thinking the minipcie could go to a breakout board with optos or similar depending on needs
[08:17:13] <KreAa> The chip itself looks like is less than $16 as there is a single set of parallel port type cards available on market with the chip already
[08:17:18] <KreAa> and they sell for $16
[08:18:01] <KreAa> I'd like the board to be below $35 or so in this specialized design as then anybody will afford one
[08:23:38] <Simonious> so.. I've regenerated code (in Fusion 360) a couple times, a couple different ways and.. ONE operation is OFFSET from ALL of the other operations by a small fraction of an inch, probably ~1/16th. The model does not reflect this and I've got no idea why it keeps happening.
[08:24:09] <archivist> tool offset?
[08:24:33] <Simonious> uhm.. I mean, maybe, because I'm a novice, but I don't think so.
[08:24:47] <Simonious> there is no tool change between operations, one operation is right, the other is not
[08:24:48] <archivist> but look at the resultant g code
[08:24:53] <Simonious> what am I looking for?
[08:25:28] <archivist> something that changes a mode or whatever
[08:25:51] <gregcnc> can you see the difference in the tool path preview?
[08:26:29] <archivist> this is another reason I would recommend actually writing real gcode, so you can get a feel of what the codes do
[08:27:10] <gregcnc> in this case you'd simply look for all Z moves to see if they are the same at cut depths
[08:27:29] <Simonious> it's not a depth problem, it's offset in x, y or XY
[08:27:30] <gregcnc> however if you see it in the preview on screen, you won't get proper output in code
[08:27:37] <Simonious> checking
[08:27:55] <gregcnc> is this still the pattern issue for last week?
[08:28:05] <Simonious> http://pastebin.com/3tRASYk9 yes and no, this is it
[08:28:16] <Simonious> before I did a circular pattern and everything was radially offset
[08:28:21] <Simonious> this time I selected EVERY hole
[08:28:30] <Simonious> so now everything is offset in the same direction
[08:28:55] <gregcnc> and you're certain this isn't a machine problem?
[08:29:13] <Simonious> gregcnc: well operations performed BEFORE AND AFTER this operation are correct, so.. yes
[08:29:19] <KreAa> Simonious: your origin for that operation is probably wrong
[08:29:53] <KreAa> is it connected to the same setup operation or is it in it's own setup ?
[08:30:00] <Simonious> KreAa: how, why would it be different than the others?
[08:30:03] <KreAa> with seperate setups this type of error is classic
[08:30:31] <Simonious> it's all one setup
[08:30:36] <KreAa> with same setup you can still have a tool orientation setting on the job with a different origin if you nudge the wrong button when setting up the job
[08:30:58] <gregcnc> you want to share your part on fusion for someone to look at
[08:31:12] <KreAa> it's easily checked by clicking the job abowe and noting the origin position (it displays it) and then selecting the other bad job and seeing if it shifts
[08:31:46] <Simonious> KreAa: operation BEFORE AND AFTER were correctly placed, no tool changes
[08:32:05] <Simonious> gregcnc: sure, never done that before either. :)
[08:33:36] <Simonious> http://a360.co/2bJXQ3c linky password xyzzy
[08:34:04] <KreAa> Simonious: the operations before and after can still have correct origin if the middle one does not
[08:34:16] <KreAa> just select edit job and have a look at your settings
[08:34:37] <Simonious> The operation that is coming up wrong is Drill all marble holes, the last on the list
[08:35:00] <Simonious> Drill all Peg holes is *probably* wrong too, it was on my last generation and test, but I didn't run that one on this last run.
[08:35:07] <KreAa> hmm
[08:35:14] <Simonious> They are the SAME point set
[08:35:52] <Simonious> The circles that outline ONE marble position at each start location are PROPERLY placed and are based on the same point as that marble whole, which isn't.
[08:36:17] <Simonious> The simulation for the marble holes looks good
[08:38:15] <KreAa> can't seem to open it online
[08:38:25] <KreAa> it wants to send me a link and it is taking it's sweet time
[08:38:37] <gregcnc> me too
[08:39:49] <KreAa> so gregcncyou think a minipcie board would be good?
[08:40:12] <Simonious> how about a beagleboneblack or a raspi?
[08:40:13] <KreAa> I'm planning on making an alternative base for the beebox pc so it would have a nice breakout
[08:40:22] <KreAa> the bbb just doesn't have enough oomph
[08:40:27] <KreAa> gpu is not used
[08:40:37] <KreAa> it does 1 fps when running my cnc right now
[08:40:40] <KreAa> horrid
[08:40:49] <Simonious> oh.. you are using a bbb?
[08:40:50] <KreAa> I notice path following is poor due to it
[08:40:52] <KreAa> yes
[08:40:59] <Simonious> wow, alright
[08:41:10] <KreAa> bbb only works well if you run it as a remote controller and run gui on something else
[08:41:18] <KreAa> then it seems ok
[08:41:20] <Simonious> that seems fair
[08:41:28] <Simonious> would a raspi be better?
[08:41:33] <KreAa> but I need the other pc I run in the shop to be windows and I want fusion etc on it
[08:41:40] <KreAa> raspi seems worse
[08:41:49] * Simonious nods
[08:41:55] <KreAa> so, mini-itx boards are a bit pricey
[08:41:57] <Simonious> I don't usualy run a GUI on raspi/bbb
[08:42:03] <KreAa> and you still need lots of extra bits
[08:42:15] <Simonious> I usually run them headless and ssh
[08:42:21] <Simonious> so.. good tip!
[08:42:34] <KreAa> so I picked up a BeeBox N3150 with quad core cpu and 8 GB mem for just $350
[08:43:03] <KreAa> This thing rocks the bees off any bbb or pi
[08:43:17] <KreAa> and it runs off a normal ssd drive or a msata
[08:43:33] <Simonious> I would think so
[08:43:36] <KreAa> By ripping out the wifi board it also has a mPCIe expansion
[08:43:47] <Simonious> I've run linuxCNC (EMC2 in those days) on pretty old desktops
[08:43:56] <KreAa> and that got me onto expanding it to a full blooded 24-ish pin controller
[08:44:30] <Simonious> my 1st: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZZ4bRZ_Shw
[08:45:48] <Simonious> I sure don't understand why these holes aren't right
[08:46:14] <KreAa> That is just beautiful :)
[08:46:23] <KreAa> Wish the etchascetch could lift pen
[08:46:42] * Simonious chuckles
[08:47:22] <Simonious> A friend of mine came to me and said, "Wouldn't it be neat if we could build a 3D computer controlled router?", I said that'd be easy, I just don't have the time or money.
[08:47:43] <Simonious> He said he'd build the motion, I said I'd do the electronics/computer
[08:47:52] <Simonious> I set that up as a demo of my side of things, he never came through.
[08:48:02] <KreAa> lol
[08:48:22] <KreAa> here's mine: http://kreature.org/projects/cnc/controlsystem/controlbox_2_s.jpg
[08:48:27] <KreAa> That is before wiring was done though
[08:48:37] <Simonious> https://goo.gl/photos/fqTdjut8fJ2BC8ck9 this shows the dicked holes
[08:48:44] <KreAa> not using a fan etc yet so no holes just open lid
[08:49:12] <Simonious> I'd love to redo the machine here! it's pretty nasty
[08:49:21] <Simonious> it's not mine though, that's work's machine.
[08:49:28] <Simonious> I could rewire it, but I'd have to do it on my time.
[08:49:39] <Simonious> I've done a lot of work on it that needed to be done though
[08:50:12] <KreAa> hmm
[08:50:23] <KreAa> the artwork in middle is that lined up with the outlines ?
[08:50:49] <Simonious> https://goo.gl/photos/2uAffpNSmiNutPMJ6 the machine here
[08:51:22] <Simonious> Hmm, I'm not sure about the middle part, checking
[08:51:32] <KreAa> http://kreature.org/projects/cnc/build_10.jpg
[08:51:36] <KreAa> that's my machine
[08:51:48] <KreAa> not strong enough to be punished like a proper steel one though
[08:51:55] <KreAa> but it does actually work as long as you have ample time
[08:52:31] <Simonious> good catch, that art in the middle is offset as well
[08:53:16] <KreAa> I haven't gotten the file yet but from all I see there must be origin differences
[08:53:29] <KreAa> if you used origin as stock center, you often run into this issue
[08:53:41] <KreAa> I always place a point if none exist and use that as origin
[08:53:55] <Simonious> I'm too novice to understand I guess
[08:53:59] <Simonious> All of them use the same setup
[08:54:08] <Simonious> by origin is bottom left, outside of the work
[08:54:12] <Simonious> (G54)
[08:54:17] <KreAa> with different parts of a model or scetch getting autogenerated different size stock you often get shifts in origin
[08:54:40] * Simonious shrugs
[08:54:53] <Simonious> something like that is obviously happening, how do I see it? find it? prevent it?
[08:54:58] <KreAa> aha the link arrived
[08:55:03] <KreAa> lemme take a peek
[08:55:06] <Simonious> thanks!
[08:56:09] <KreAa> got a zillion windows up takes a bit to load fusion
[08:58:03] <KreAa> it's open yey!
[08:58:33] <KreAa> ahh ok so a lot of scetches
[08:58:58] <KreAa> ahh and the cam job has a single setup, ok
[08:59:05] <Simonious> aye
[08:59:31] <KreAa> ok your work coordinate system is not well defined
[08:59:44] <Simonious> ?
[08:59:54] <KreAa> it is set up for a z plane and x axis selection but you didn't select any
[09:00:12] <KreAa> origin is also defined as stock box point which can then be a bit hairy
[09:00:26] <KreAa> stock is set up as a relative box
[09:00:36] <KreAa> that is relative to model
[09:00:39] <KreAa> but model is not selected
[09:00:52] <Simonious> I know those words, but not those concepts.
[09:00:53] <KreAa> all in all, it's then easy to get stuff confused hehe
[09:01:10] <KreAa> ok, go to your setup (setup7)
[09:01:21] <KreAa> right click and edit it
[09:01:48] <KreAa> It seems like all your imported ( I assume dxf import) artwork is with 0 on bottom left corner
[09:01:51] <Simonious> KreAa: PM me rather than spam the channel maybe? I'm with you.
[09:01:57] <KreAa> ok
[09:01:58] <KreAa> yeh
[09:02:12] <KreAa> but I like spamming the channel :p
[09:02:15] <KreAa> lol
[09:02:31] <JT-JA14> XXCoder: had a print come out crappy and the X axis bearings were half out of the thing so I put some calibrated shim stock on them
[09:11:27] <JT-JA14> which of course changed my Z height lol
[09:12:13] <skunkworks> JT-JA14, what did you end up getting for a 3d printer?>
[09:13:59] <JT-Shop> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Full-Metal-Frame-3D-Printer-Professional-3d-Color-Printer-with-8GB-SD-Card-LCD-One-Roll/32705186296.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.tpAvYo
[09:14:11] <JT-Shop> something is wrong with my lan cable over there lol
[09:15:16] <jdh> how did you pick that one over the other hundred at the same pricepoint?
[09:18:45] <JT-Shop> XXCoder: has one
[09:56:37] <MacGalempsy> anyone making a mess yetm
[09:56:40] <MacGalempsy> ?
[09:58:04] <archivist> always
[09:58:42] <gregcnc> I tried last week and scrapped half my parts, so i'm trying to sort a mess if that counts
[10:08:56] <Erant> Oh sweet. Just got a quote for ballnuts for $150 total, including supports and shipping and everything.
[10:09:10] <Erant> They're probably not great, but they'll match the rest of the mill.
[10:18:21] <Erant> Now I gotta find someone that'll mill ~5mm off my saddle... Or I could mill that off the underside of my table myself.
[10:18:46] <Erant> (I have an extra table. It's shitty, but it's mostly straight for at least half of the dovetail length)
[10:22:32] <pink_vampire> so linux cnc become a 3d printers channel?
[10:36:07] <Jymmm> pink_vampire: It seems like it sometimes =)
[10:36:26] <pink_vampire> lol
[10:36:38] <pink_vampire> you right
[10:37:42] <Jymmm> pink_vampire: But, we've now CNC'ed the whole nail cutting process... all 20 digits in 12 seconds flat! Right down to the nub!
[10:38:26] <pink_vampire> nail cutting process?????
[10:39:31] <Jymmm> pink_vampire: Yeah, no more long finger/toe nails... All completely automated while you sleep, and even collects the clippings for convenient disposal!
[10:41:07] <pink_vampire> omg O_o
[10:41:58] * Jymmm hugs pink_vampire.... there there, it'll be alright... they'll grow back.... some day ;)
[11:01:59] <CaptHindsight> hey I'm trying to eat here!
[11:03:48] <gregcnc> fortunately I didn't see it til after breakfast
[11:09:39] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/fWc8V9Q.png
[11:09:50] <pink_vampire> m2 nut and m3 nut
[11:18:41] <archivist> make an adjustable spanner
[11:22:00] <archivist> I know it can be done http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchv4page=1&searchstr=adjustable+pd+08+2009
[11:24:41] <pink_vampire> you have long nails!
[11:28:20] <pink_vampire> archivist:
[11:28:34] <pink_vampire> Jymmm:
[11:50:45] <Loetmichel> *meh* today i milled black PVC for about 6 hours... 1mm deep, 1200mm/s with a 2mm two flute mill bit... the whole workshop at the company now looks like this: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=13888&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 (just in black) ... me included ;)
[11:52:14] <gregcnc> www.hoover.com
[11:59:23] <SpeedEvil> :)
[12:02:14] <t12> ion air gun?
[12:08:21] <Loetmichel> gregcnc: the "hoover" did the "pvc magnet" thing. a.k.a it powered the vacuum table
[12:20:34] <IchGucksLive> hi
[12:23:17] <IchGucksLive> night has fallen in germany
[12:35:11] <IchGucksLive> today i finished the first 8 minimills after the long long break mechanicel ok
[12:35:32] <IchGucksLive> tomorrow will see if the electronics kow how is also back in force
[12:35:46] <IchGucksLive> red cable is stil red cable
[13:06:00] <pink_vampire> Loetmichel: woooowwww
[13:09:28] <Deejay> hi pink
[13:10:26] <Deejay> Michel looks like this: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=5077 ;-)
[13:11:46] <pink_vampire> Deejay: WOW LOL
[13:12:35] <pink_vampire> I'm also work with plastics now.. but on the opposite way
[13:19:26] <pink_vampire> it was less then 50$ investment in the printer option (hot end and roll of plastic PLA)
[13:19:34] <pink_vampire> Deejay:
[13:19:54] <Deejay> wow
[13:20:47] <pink_vampire> i had name23 motor,
[13:21:02] <pink_vampire> also a 5A toshiba driver
[13:21:05] <gregcnc> So std linuxcnc + extruder.... what generates code?
[13:21:54] <pink_vampire> i build the extruder from acrylic scrap that i had here
[13:22:34] <pink_vampire> the extruder is set as A axis on the mach3 (just one parallel port)
[13:22:54] <gregcnc> gah is this channel mach 3 now?
[13:23:29] <pink_vampire> and for the hot end I have arduino with temperature control and relay for the heater
[13:23:49] <pink_vampire> I'm using slicer for making the Gcode
[13:24:23] <gregcnc> and the code runs as is
[13:24:28] <pink_vampire> yes
[13:24:44] <pink_vampire> super simple
[13:27:09] <IchGucksLive> pink_vampire: the cablening is the best part
[13:27:43] <pink_vampire> sure..
[13:28:12] <pink_vampire> i need to finish the plate for the main power supply
[13:28:37] <IchGucksLive> did you print somthing
[13:28:44] <pink_vampire> I got 80 grit sand paper
[13:28:59] <IchGucksLive> as the final print !
[13:29:06] <pink_vampire> IchGucksLive: http://i.imgur.com/fWc8V9Q.png
[13:29:37] <pink_vampire> the cube is the first print ever done!
[13:30:01] <IchGucksLive> expected flat surface
[13:30:53] <CaptHindsight> http://www.pronterface.com/ wish I had time to make this a front end for LCNC
[13:30:59] <pink_vampire> what do you mean?
[13:31:47] <pink_vampire> CaptHindsight: O_o
[14:15:07] <Simonious> https://goo.gl/photos/bZK258tq3YNDffQL6 I selected the outline.. and it drew the CAM below.. wth?
[14:15:09] <MacGalempsy> Finally the forms are 100% ready.https://flic.kr/p/ME9Xed
[14:16:43] <Simonious> Nice cube Moka Akashiya.
[14:17:33] <CaptHindsight> MacGalempsy: making a superfurnace?
[14:18:29] <MacGalempsy> CaptHindsight: 12lb pour with top grabbing tongs
[14:18:47] <MacGalempsy> 20lb pour with the middle lifted off
[14:20:23] <MacGalempsy> so one blog said portland is ok and another said dont use it
[14:20:48] <MacGalempsy> need to pick a recipe so i can pour it tonight..
[14:21:43] <CaptHindsight> MacGalempsy: how hot are are you targeting?
[14:23:17] <MacGalempsy> my dad wants to cast bronze. im cool with aluminum. alum 660c but my buddy who is building the exact same wants yo melt steel
[14:24:00] <MacGalempsy> targeting the temperature it takes to singe satans balls.
[14:27:42] <SpeedEvil> portland cement - if made as usual - starts to badly decompose around 300C fom memory
[14:32:08] <MacGalempsy> The portland method in parts by volume: 1.5 portland, 2 sand, 1.5 perlite, 2 bentonite
[14:34:58] <MacGalempsy> perlite and furnace cement says 4:1
[14:35:15] <Lowridah_> well, in portland we actually hand craft the cement in a slow artisan way.
[14:35:28] <Lowridah_> if you're from boston you've probably seen something similar
[14:36:24] <MacGalempsy> never been to Boston.
[14:41:05] <CaptHindsight> Effect of high temperature on mechanical and physical properties of lightweight cement based refractory including expanded vermiculite http://lapom.unt.edu/publications/pdf%20articles/Lisa/02-16-1-7-mri61%20eprint.pdf
[14:49:47] <CaptHindsight> Overview of Refractory Materials http://www.pdhonline.com/courses/m158/m158content.pdf
[16:04:52] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: as long as you adjust how rotation is handled. I like how slic3r handles rotation while pronterface has better stuff generally
[16:08:01] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: I'm not sure I follow you
[16:08:16] <XXCoder> you sai you wanted pronterface ui for linuxcnc
[16:08:30] <CaptHindsight> I agree
[16:08:37] <XXCoder> its mostly nice, though how object view rotation sucks hard
[16:08:46] <CaptHindsight> ah
[16:08:48] <XXCoder> that is where slic3r shines
[16:09:17] <CaptHindsight> how slic3r handles rotation?
[16:09:33] <XXCoder> yeah rotate object, get closer view, etc
[16:10:24] <JT-Shop> XXCoder: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1808823
[16:10:47] <XXCoder> decided to print it anyway eh
[16:11:29] <XXCoder> also different handness interesting
[16:11:42] <CaptHindsight> does that switch slide across something to trigger it or does it smash into something?
[16:11:51] <JT-Shop> yea after some adjusting I needed the other hand
[16:12:29] <JT-Shop> the vertical rods needed some tape in the acrylic bottom holes to tighten them up as well as the X axis bearings
[16:12:43] <JT-Shop> it's reprap they just smash
[16:13:47] <CaptHindsight> "It's Reprap" ™
[16:15:46] * XXCoder facepalms. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eec_1476024271
[16:17:26] <CaptHindsight> $3 extra for the undercarriage wash
[16:17:27] <nubcake> wow...
[16:17:34] <nubcake> that's one way to wash a car..
[16:17:42] <XXCoder> wash twice
[16:17:51] <XXCoder> and get dents free of charge!
[16:18:20] <nubcake> lol
[16:20:20] <gregcnc> why in the hell is there no guard rail?
[16:20:44] <XXCoder> nobody else everwent over
[16:20:48] <CaptHindsight> check out the other car wash fails
[16:21:08] <CaptHindsight> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1fc_1386187870 a rail will not help some people
[16:22:24] <nubcake> sweet
[16:22:33] <nubcake> his door opens almost 180°
[16:23:53] <CaptHindsight> how else to you clean the door jambs?
[16:24:17] <nubcake> true
[16:30:59] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: https://www.repetier.com/ whats your opinion of this? other than it's no longer open
[16:31:17] <XXCoder> meh
[16:31:23] <XXCoder> it isnt very good
[16:31:26] <XXCoder> crashy sometimes
[16:31:33] <XXCoder> I like pronterface a lot more
[16:31:41] <XXCoder> even with its sucky rotation of view
[16:32:52] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: http://www.envisionlabs.net/ thoughts?
[16:33:17] <XXCoder> thats new one
[16:33:29] <CaptHindsight> used to be open as well
[16:33:32] <XXCoder> they moved to new url bottom
[16:34:20] <XXCoder> no price. means its priceless therefore too expensive for me
[16:34:43] <CaptHindsight> $495 single seat
[16:34:57] <CaptHindsight> https://datatree3d.com/software/
[16:35:20] <XXCoder> jeeeeez
[16:35:43] <XXCoder> 100 to 249 95 per license. who needs thay many 3d print hosting licenses? lol
[16:35:49] <CaptHindsight> I like how these guys start with an open project the after 2-3 years of testing and building a following close it up
[16:36:06] <XXCoder> so glad linuxcnc isnt like that
[16:36:18] <JT-Shop> XXCoder: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1821456
[16:36:19] <CaptHindsight> people who want to make hardware and get rich quick
[16:37:05] <XXCoder> well time to go work laters
[16:37:24] <JT-i3> see you in the am
[16:43:05] <Deejay> gn8
[17:11:55] <LoveMHz> Is it okay to ask here about tooling recommendations? Just got done watching mikeselectricstuff's video on Peeling multilayer PCBs apart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV4LJX1HdPk And was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on a better tool for face milling fiberglass at repedtive fine grain depths, 0.1mm
[17:14:20] <LoveMHz> Budget is $100 and would prefer a single tool set up, versus replacing with fresh ones and finding z again.
[17:14:59] <Tom_itx> FR4 and copper are both hard on tooling.
[17:15:16] <Tom_itx> with that said, carbide will likely be your best bet
[17:15:31] <Tom_itx> tools made for routing PCB's
[17:16:01] <jdh> or a 4" face mill
[17:16:28] <LoveMHz> Any recommended vendors for PCB routing tools? I do have a stock pile of AliExpress bits... But haha
[17:17:14] <Tom_itx> http://www.lakeshorecarbide.com/
[17:17:22] <Tom_itx> i dunno if they have pcb specific tooling
[17:17:27] <Tom_itx> but they have quality tools
[17:18:29] <Tom_itx> http://www.precisebits.com/applications/pcbtools.htm
[17:18:50] <jdh> they don't look well suited for face milling
[17:18:52] <JT-Shop> I second lakeshore carbide it's all I'll use
[17:19:12] <JT-Shop> does onshrud have pcb tools?
[17:19:31] <Tom_itx> not sure on that either
[17:20:25] <Tom_itx> the geometry on pcb tools will be different than say aluminum or steel
[17:21:00] <LoveMHz> jdh: I'm interested in face mills, but feel like I would quickly go over my budget.
[17:21:14] <nubcake> good night everyone
[17:21:36] <jdh> how big is the board
[17:21:57] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: I about got that HGM dialed in
[17:21:58] <LoveMHz> It's a big board. Omm roughly 8"x11"
[17:22:04] <jdh> heh, so huge.
[17:22:31] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, time to get a row of em goin..
[17:22:32] <jdh> and you want to mill the whole board, repeatedly?
[17:22:47] <LoveMHz> It's motherboard for an arcade mechine. Done about all the RE work possible expect for the physical layers.
[17:22:50] <LoveMHz> Yep!
[17:22:57] <JT-Shop> I've just about been talked into making a Core XY
[17:23:04] <jdh> find someone with a SEM?
[17:23:08] <Tom_itx> by whom?
[17:23:20] <JT-Shop> Andy just gets his boards from chinlee
[17:23:21] <Tom_itx> i'd stick with one design personally
[17:23:33] <LoveMHz> SEM?
[17:24:01] <jdh> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanning_electron_microscope
[17:24:46] <LoveMHz> Can't say I have any friends with access to a SEM
[17:25:17] <Simonious> https://goo.gl/photos/29AgjDiCeJ2MFdbL6 so when I swap tools, I bring the toolhead right to the work surface and do a touch off and then hit run. The next often goes WAY deeper than it is supposed to. However if I stop it right away and then RE-touch off it'll go to the correct depth. What stupid thing am I doing wrong this time?
[17:26:00] <Simonious> got the hole alignment issue resolved thanks to KreAa_wrk
[17:26:01] <jdh> are you hitting the correct button after touch-off?
[17:26:20] <Simonious> jdh: uhm, it's the same one I always hit to start the run
[17:26:31] <Simonious> so.. _I_ think so.
[17:27:19] <jdh> I might have touched off the wrong axis a time or two by forgetting I hit x or y moves right before touch
[17:27:45] <Simonious> sure, that isn't what is happening here, it's ONLY the Z
[17:28:38] <jdh> yeah, I touch off to a guage pin. sometimes I make a slight x/y correction for pin placement.
[17:28:55] <Simonious> I'm just re Z-ing for the tool change
[17:28:58] <Simonious> XY aren't touched
[18:16:24] <FloppyDisk525> Maybe when you touch off in Axis, make sure you're using the correct g54, g55, etc. coordinate system. Also, I've been very angry w/ myself for touching off X when I meant Z.
[18:16:37] <FloppyDisk525> Which means I have to go back and re-touch off X. I dislike that mucho!
[18:16:59] <_methods> just don't touch yourself while your touching off
[18:17:23] <_methods> unless you're into that kind of thing
[18:17:33] <Simonious> FloppyDisk525: I'll double check that, but like I said it fails on first touch and run and succeeds when I stop, retouch and then run
[18:17:44] <Simonious> it's like I need to run the new operation before it'll work
[18:17:53] <Simonious> I'm loading a variety of operations..
[18:17:54] <FloppyDisk525> Simonious - I read that and not sure what to add...
[18:17:57] <Simonious> one after another
[18:18:00] * Simonious nods
[18:18:06] <FloppyDisk525> Seems like you have different tool heights?
[18:18:15] <Simonious> yeah, I need you guys to actually look through my eyes so your experience can come to bear.
[18:19:00] <Simonious> FloppyDisk525: yeah that's the whole point here, I'm changing tools and then retouching off.
[18:19:04] <FloppyDisk525> Wondering if you have some G codes in your post processor that change things or maybe you have some tool heights... I'm not 'expreienced' enough to mess w/ the tool height, but sure want toget a system setup for that.
[18:19:29] <FloppyDisk525> But, you can have tool heights stored for each tool - do you have that?
[18:19:36] <FloppyDisk525> I don't store heights for each tool.
[18:19:43] <FloppyDisk525> So, I ahve to re-touch off each time...
[18:19:43] <Simonious> FloppyDisk525: yeah.. I wonder things like that too :P
[18:20:23] <FloppyDisk525> For the post processor, look at your line for the tool selection, it will ahve something like T4 M6 (I think...).
[18:20:56] <FloppyDisk525> one of the first things I did when I got HSMExpress working was to make a simple program and read each line...
[18:21:43] <FloppyDisk525> Anyway, back to tool heights, I think you have to make sure you have a 'system' setup w/ the right tool height offset. Then, you can go fast, but it'll take a little bit of work... I haven't done it, really want to and think I need to.
[18:24:25] <Simonious> http://pastebin.com/BUiWtkYi
[18:24:33] <Simonious> ^ FloppyDisk525 there is one of the operations I'm loading
[18:25:11] <Simonious> actually http://pastebin.com/7wQxTrnk
[18:25:16] <Simonious> this is one that borked last run
[18:25:24] <FloppyDisk525> so you're in g54, that's fine, tool 1... Just don't have any offsets w/ the tool (I think)
[18:25:29] <Simonious> that other I run in a sequence that doesn't need a touch off
[18:25:43] <Simonious> except for the first in that sequence (all the same tool)
[18:26:16] <FloppyDisk525> all drilling: G98 G81 X4.0874 Y12.9731 Z-0.372 R0.3 F13.123
[18:26:45] <Simonious> N75 G98 G81 X4.0874 Y12.9731 Z-0.45 R0.3 F23
[18:26:48] <FloppyDisk525> here's where you get out of the drilling: N800 G80
[18:27:21] <Simonious> should be fine..
[18:27:54] <FloppyDisk525> I agree, but you have to make sure that each tool is the same length, or do the tool off set thing... Or do what you're doing and touch off each time.
[18:28:03] <Simonious> *nods*
[18:28:25] <Simonious> yes, I just don't understand why the touch off is failing
[18:29:08] <FloppyDisk525> Yeah - I'd go through each of the following (but I doubt you'll find an issue): N10 G90 G94 G17 G91.1
[18:29:08] <FloppyDisk525> N15 G20
[18:29:08] <FloppyDisk525> N20 G53 G0 Z0.
[18:30:01] <FloppyDisk525> Hmmm, where is your home spot or global g53 set for Z?
[18:30:24] <FloppyDisk525> If your home is 'down' on the table, you'll go right through w/ g53, g0 z0 (n20)
[18:30:29] <Simonious> uhm.. where ever the endstop is, it's up several inches from the work.
[18:30:35] <Simonious> home is UP for Z
[18:30:46] <FloppyDisk525> should be okay, that seems like it's right...
[18:31:41] <FloppyDisk525> To be honest, I'm not the best to look at this and the g53 I think I set high when I manually home. I don't have home switches... old bridgeport clone didn't have them, but should add them, for various reasons.
[18:45:23] <Simonious> loaded a new piece of foam, loaded operation, did XYZ touch off, hit run - it started doing the operation at ~Z-0.75, WAY above the work
[18:45:37] <Simonious> stopped the operation, retouched off ONLY Z and now it's fine
[18:45:52] <Simonious> loaded another operation, same tool, same depth, hit run, everything is still fine
[18:46:02] <Simonious> something is super wrong with Z
[18:51:47] <Cromaglious_> ugh... Veterans Administration tryig to kill me again... got some supplys in for my CPAP sleep Apnea machine and a hose that goes to the face mask was in a sealed package with a rubber (latex) band tying it together...
[18:54:58] <Cromaglious_> I could probably wash it out and have no problems... I'm just not going there...
[18:56:28] <Simonious> confirmed - retouch Z for toolchange/new operation, hit go - Z IS WRONG, stop before tool hits work, retouch off Z, now Z is correct.
[18:58:04] <tjb1> hi all
[18:58:30] <Cromaglious_> yo tjb1
[19:15:44] <sync> Cromaglious_: are you really that allergic to it?
[19:16:17] <Cromaglious_> yep...
[19:16:25] <Valen> that's not awesome
[19:16:56] <Cromaglious_> can't be within smell of a ripe banana either..
[19:17:07] <Cromaglious_> or I up chuck
[19:18:37] <sync> nice
[19:18:53] <Cromaglious_> popped ballons can also make me up chuck, bandaid brand adhesive bandages don't stick to me... they leave 2 rectangle white spots on my skin that's all puffy and sweaty when they fall off
[19:20:15] <Cromaglious_> can't eat raw -- melons, most fruit, chestnuts, certain walnuts, any night shade (tomatoes, chilli's, bell peppers, ...)
[19:21:31] <Cromaglious_> I'm the official is the potato cooked tester...
[19:21:57] <Cromaglious_> I probably allergic to 30 of the 19 latex protiens... ;/
[19:22:55] <Cromaglious_> I'm including near analogs
[19:23:43] <Cromaglious_> hence the fruit, tomatoes, potatoes allergies
[19:24:40] <Cromaglious_> wearing dish washing gloves turns my hands puffy, white, and fills the glove with sweat. If I leave it on long enough the hands turn red
[19:25:00] <Cromaglious_> and other latex gloves
[19:25:17] <Cromaglious_> can't wear spandex waist bands on underwear either
[19:25:51] <Cromaglious_> has to be lycra (polyurathane)
[19:27:23] <sync> spandex is pu and peg
[20:13:38] <Simonious> okay.. figured out my Z-confusion
[20:14:13] <Simonious> I've been putting the new tool in, retouching off Z and hitting run, and then DUH, it asks for the new tool to continue..
[20:14:19] <Simonious> so at that point my offset means dick
[20:14:52] <Simonious> so for the moment.. I'm loading the new file, putting in the new tool, going until it says put in the new tool, stopping the new run, reoffsetting Z and then hitting run again.
[20:15:13] <Simonious> not the 'right' way for sure, but a way that works for novice me
[20:31:07] <Simonious> alright.. so http://pastebin.com/FS62WDmS if I set a home at G54 and another at G55 and one at G56... how do I make this same gcode work in each of these spots? do I need to edit the gcode or is there a way to tell it we're working from G55 now?
[20:35:17] <jdh> do a G55
[20:38:57] <Simon_at_CNC> and for that code it'll run there?
[20:39:04] <Simon_at_CNC> that code seems hardcoded for g54
[20:40:14] <jdh> get rid of the g54 in the code
[20:40:22] <Simon_at_CNC> just remove that line?
[20:40:27] <Simon_at_CNC> replace it with something?
[20:40:57] <jdh> you could replace it with g55 or whatever
[20:41:09] <Simon_at_CNC> is there another option?
[20:41:10] <jdh> I'd take it out of the post
[20:41:20] * Simon_at_CNC nods
[20:42:09] <Simon_at_CNC> so.. is it possible to make some gcode that goes to g54 (runs some other code) goes to g55 (runs it again) up through g59?
[20:42:12] <jdh> I have mine end with M2 instead of %
[20:42:25] <Simon_at_CNC> why?
[20:43:03] <jdh> it resets to G54
[20:43:17] <jdh> (as well as ends the program)
[20:43:27] <jdh> m30 ends too, but something different?
[20:43:47] <Simon_at_CNC> beats me :)
[20:43:53] <jdh> looks like m30 does all the same as m2
[20:44:01] <jdh> so, G54 is active afterwards
[20:44:46] <jdh> you can write a program that sets g54, runs, sets g55 runs, etc.
[20:45:04] <Simon_at_CNC> where runs = another gcode file?
[20:45:28] <jdh> yeah. you would have to get rid of the g30 and make sure everything was reset properly yourself.
[20:45:57] <jdh> I have no tool changers so I just generate separate code for each tool
[20:46:18] <Simon_at_CNC> likewise
[20:50:13] <FloppyDisk525> In HSMexpress in the 'job' setup there's a text box for coordinate system and I have to put in '2' for G55.
[20:50:54] <FloppyDisk525> The idea is that you could touch off on 2 or more vises, etc, run one at g54 and use the same code at g55, g56, etc.
[20:50:58] <FloppyDisk525> Really powerful.
[20:52:19] <FloppyDisk525> I read somewhere (maybe linuxcnc manual) to set g54 same as g53 and use g54 to 'move around'. Then touch off and do programs starting at g55.
[20:52:52] <FloppyDisk525> You don't have to do that, my machinist buddy looked at me like, hunh? But, I read it somewhere. i'm a hack, but makes sense and what i use...
[20:52:56] <BeachBumPete> Well the CNC lathe is FINALLY in the house!! :)
[20:53:04] <FloppyDisk525> schweetee Pete!
[20:53:15] <FloppyDisk525> Schweeeeettt...
[20:53:23] <BeachBumPete> I think so too
[20:53:29] <FloppyDisk525> Did you get the lathe running?
[20:53:36] <FloppyDisk525> I thought it was close, but don't remember?
[20:53:37] <BeachBumPete> it was actually easier than I thougt it would be to transport it.
[20:53:43] <FloppyDisk525> nice.
[20:53:47] <BeachBumPete> no its a ways from being usable
[20:53:53] <FloppyDisk525> that's what I thought...
[20:53:55] <FloppyDisk525> :-)
[20:54:15] <FloppyDisk525> Is ways a pun (weighs and weighs as well)
[20:54:18] <BeachBumPete> I have purchased about 80 percent of the control parts for it and started working on the retrofit while I was in TN before we moved
[20:54:48] <FloppyDisk525> Well, now you can get back to it, nice...
[20:54:57] <BeachBumPete> but now that it is here I can get back working on it
[20:55:01] <BeachBumPete> LOL
[20:55:15] <FloppyDisk525> Your ways pun is actually pretty funny (even if it wasn't intended...)...
[20:55:42] <BeachBumPete> it is in the shop but kinda sideways right now I need to move it over but my wife and I are kinda tired from all the come a long ratcheting and huffing it onto and off the trailer
[20:55:48] <FloppyDisk525> I'm mucking around kicad trying to do a basic machine electrical schematic and I forgot how to use the program.
[20:55:53] <FloppyDisk525> Ugh, I dislike that...
[20:55:57] <BeachBumPete> yeah it was not intentional...this time :)
[20:55:57] <FloppyDisk525> But, it'll come back.
[20:56:30] <BeachBumPete> I did my control retrofit wiring diagram in autocad clone in different colors
[20:57:05] <FloppyDisk525> I've done that too, but I like kicad for drawing lines and then they actually mean something w/ the net list... But, no multiple colors, which is a bummer.
[20:57:15] <BeachBumPete> ah
[20:57:39] <BeachBumPete> well I gotta get the shop organized and setup so I can arrange for the VMC to be moved here hopefully Saturday
[20:58:14] <FloppyDisk525> sweet - take care.
[20:58:21] <BeachBumPete> you too
[21:13:52] <Tom_itx> BeachBumPete gettin settled in ehh?
[21:14:08] <Tom_itx> maybe you'll have something up and goin soon
[21:16:58] <BeachBumPete> Tom_itx yeah getting there
[21:17:06] <BeachBumPete> the lathe is the easy part
[21:17:12] <BeachBumPete> well moving it at least
[21:17:38] <BeachBumPete> I am trying to arrange moving the VMC on Saturday morning or Friday evening after work whichever they are happier with
[21:17:51] <BeachBumPete> that is the FINAL piece I have left in the Storage unit.
[21:18:13] <BeachBumPete> if I can get it out by Saturday I think I will miss paying another rental fee month
[21:18:40] <Frank_2> hi
[21:18:52] <BeachBumPete> hi frank
[22:21:41] <Cromaglious_> wrote a Gcode file to peck down to -22mm in every .5mm square within a rectangle of my lower. using a 1/8" endmill with a 1/4 shaft
[22:21:58] <Cromaglious_> it's working pretty good
[22:22:25] <Cromaglious_> once it's done, I do it again down to -32mm
[22:43:33] <jdh> why not just pocket it?
[22:51:57] <BeachBumPete> are you talking about a lower receiver?
[22:57:28] <Erant> He is
[22:57:53] <Erant> jdh: His setup's... not great ;) It's a 3040 with a mediocre spindle.
[22:58:29] <Erant> Cromaglious_: fwiw, endmills are not great at being drills.
[23:03:05] <BeachBumPete> I'm gonna hafta try my hand at making one of those at some point ;)
[23:07:05] <MacGalempsy> yo
[23:07:21] <BeachBumPete> Yo mac
[23:07:51] <MacGalempsy> Hi Pete. Whats going on?
[23:08:17] <BeachBumPete> Well I got my CNC lathe moved over to my home today Finally
[23:08:48] <MacGalempsy> sweet. all ready to plug in
[23:08:52] <MacGalempsy> ?
[23:08:56] <BeachBumPete> I wish LOL
[23:09:05] <BeachBumPete> no its getting retrofit
[23:09:23] <BeachBumPete> I have most of the electronics parts and the brand new Spindle motor and axis motors and drives etc.
[23:09:36] <BeachBumPete> Have a brand new PC for it and power supplies etc.
[23:09:41] <MacGalempsy> ahhh... time to make brackets?
[23:09:51] <BeachBumPete> I was just starting to get it assembled when I sold my house
[23:10:11] <BeachBumPete> well actually the machine has a very nice electronics enclosure that has room for everything
[23:10:22] <BeachBumPete> so most of it will be Din rail mounted stuff
[23:10:30] <MacGalempsy> motors just bolt right up?
[23:10:34] <BeachBumPete> I gotta machine the spindle motor plate
[23:10:39] <BeachBumPete> yeah they do actually
[23:10:44] <MacGalempsy> cool.
[23:10:55] <BeachBumPete> exactly the same size frame etc
[23:11:00] <BeachBumPete> AC servos
[23:11:38] <BeachBumPete> I gotta order some new spindle motor pullies for the motor side its a four row I think
[23:11:56] <BeachBumPete> I am just excited it is finally here at my house and out of storage
[23:12:03] <MacGalempsy> any ki d of timeframe for the completion date?
[23:12:17] <BeachBumPete> I also grabbed everything else that was in there with the exception of my VMC
[23:12:34] <Cromaglious_> erant, not really using it as a drill... since it's an interupted cut... centeris clear of anything
[23:12:40] <MacGalempsy> when is that coming home?
[23:12:57] <BeachBumPete> well honestly since my new home is basically renovated already and I don't have to be working on it every damn weekend it should go a bit faster
[23:13:07] <BeachBumPete> I am HOPING to move the VMC over here on Saturday
[23:13:20] <BeachBumPete> It is getting moved via a big rollback wrecker
[23:13:50] <MacGalempsy> you have 3ph at the house?
[23:14:10] <BeachBumPete> no none of my machines run 3 phase anymore
[23:14:26] <BeachBumPete> I retrofit the VMC to run single phase and I am doing the same with the Lathe
[23:14:35] <MacGalempsy> nice.
[23:14:50] <BeachBumPete> they could run 3 phase if I wanted tho
[23:15:47] <MacGalempsy> so. the casting forge is all formed up, but still debating the refractory composition
[23:16:01] <BeachBumPete> what are you planning to use it for?
[23:16:31] <MacGalempsy> i want to pour a mast for a diy plastic injection machine
[23:16:50] <BeachBumPete> a mast?
[23:17:41] <MacGalempsy> http://www.abplasticinjectors.com/en/ab-400
[23:18:25] <MacGalempsy> all the components come up to ~$750-1000
[23:20:44] <MacGalempsy> so i will design the unit using similar stuff and cast the fixture.
[23:22:13] <BeachBumPete> nice
[23:22:20] <BeachBumPete> what do you plan to make with that?
[23:22:48] <MacGalempsy> vintage landcruiser interior plastics
[23:23:03] <MacGalempsy> and similar things
[23:23:05] <BeachBumPete> Ooh Sweet
[23:23:08] <BeachBumPete> I love those old cruisers
[23:23:20] <BeachBumPete> for that matter I love the new cruisers LOL
[23:23:59] <MacGalempsy> the old plastics are not available, so maybe i can make a few bucks
[23:24:44] <MacGalempsy> 3 main body styles, about 50+ knobs all together
[23:25:15] <BeachBumPete> kewl
[23:26:07] <MacGalempsy> wish the probe digitizing was better, but it may require laser scanning
[23:26:36] <BeachBumPete> nice
[23:26:49] <MacGalempsy> i drew one up in fusion and printed it, it came close, but not exact
[23:27:04] <BeachBumPete> Man I am tired.... craking that damn come a long on and off with the trailer was tiring
[23:27:40] <MacGalempsy> take some shots of the toys in their new box
[23:27:43] <BeachBumPete> my boss loaned me his trailer which was nice but his tail lights were all busted up
[23:27:57] <BeachBumPete> so I replaced them for him with brand new ones
[23:28:08] <BeachBumPete> I will once they are both in and setp
[23:28:13] <BeachBumPete> setup
[23:28:33] <MacGalempsy> harbor frieght lights?
[23:28:36] <MacGalempsy> just wired up a set last week
[23:28:45] <BeachBumPete> no I got these at the auto parts store
[23:28:53] <BeachBumPete> luckily they bolted right up
[23:28:58] <BeachBumPete> look nice
[23:29:21] <MacGalempsy> no drilling is always nice
[23:29:23] <BeachBumPete> his trailer is a dual axle heavy lawn equipment type trailer and its pretty nice
[23:29:27] <BeachBumPete> yop
[23:29:48] <BeachBumPete> I would not mind having one a bit heavier duty than that like a car hauler
[23:30:02] <BeachBumPete> I only have a 5x9 single axle right now
[23:30:09] <MacGalempsy> a flatbed trailer like that is best parked at someone elses house
[23:30:24] <BeachBumPete> maybe I will sell that one to buy the larger traielr
[23:30:38] <BeachBumPete> agreed but it is nice to have and I could stick it in my fenced in yard
[23:30:46] <MacGalempsy> i have a mower trailer, but the duelly is at the farm.
[23:31:48] <BeachBumPete> there is a guy selling a dual axle car trailer with an all steel deck locally for like 3k which is a good price I think but I don't have the cheddar right now :(
[23:32:00] <MacGalempsy> i would like to have a double cargo bin workshop
[23:32:22] <BeachBumPete> I hear ya
[23:32:39] <MacGalempsy> then when its time to move, uts easy
[23:32:42] <BeachBumPete> my new garage/shop is not as big as the one I had in Tn
[23:33:14] <BeachBumPete> but I plan to get a large shed in the back yard and put a bunch of my junk in there to free up the space.
[23:33:37] <MacGalempsy> as long as the machines fit, you are lucky
[23:33:43] <BeachBumPete> I was pleased to find the metal cable rack/helmet rack I removed from the Tig welder in the storage unit today. I thought I lost it and would have to make a new one
[23:33:57] <BeachBumPete> Oh they will both easily fit with room to spare
[23:34:19] <BeachBumPete> I have a metal table/work bench but the top is plywood.
[23:34:39] <BeachBumPete> I want to get a sheet of steel for a new top and weld it together so I can use it for Tig welding
[23:34:52] <MacGalempsy> everytime i get a new machine setup, the honeydo list gets doubled...
[23:35:06] <BeachBumPete> I know the feeling
[23:36:18] <BeachBumPete> Well I better get to bed. Gn8 Mac
[23:36:55] <MacGalempsy> night pete