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[00:28:12] <Cromaglious_> wife is off to see her sister for a girls weekend... I get to sleep and make noise
[02:33:37] <Deejay> moin
[03:38:57] <TurBoss> morning
[03:39:32] <TurBoss> could linuxcnc manage 2 mirrors with a laser like 2 there where 2 axis?
[03:39:45] <TurBoss> for stereolithography 3d printing
[03:49:26] <cpresser> sure
[03:49:49] <cpresser> you can even build a kinematic-module to compensate angular errors
[03:50:59] <cpresser> 'real' galvo drivers/controllers usually are faster than linuxcnc; but for SLA-Printing you dont need to be that fast
[03:53:33] <TurBoss> thx!
[03:55:29] <archivist> it also has a streaming comp so you can send the data for modulation
[04:31:46] <archivist> the available crap would die with a divide by zero error
[04:33:52] <TurBoss> Found this
https://gist.github.com/TurBoss/1957bf3c056bea5efe9eef43b91a2d8d
[05:13:49] <jthornton> XXCoder: tried to print but not much came out and it just wadded up
[05:18:50] <XXCoder> hey jthornton
[05:19:07] <XXCoder> its likely your printer is WAYY underextruding
[05:19:12] <XXCoder> mine come in like that too
[05:19:14] <jthornton> did you have to change anything to get the extruder to work
[05:19:25] <XXCoder> it was extuding less than half needed lol
[05:19:31] <jthornton> Esteps/mm 95.0
[05:19:38] <XXCoder> that was my orginial yeah
[05:19:52] <XXCoder> I set it to 156 something now. easy enough, mark on extruder filiment
[05:19:55] <XXCoder> command go 100mm
[05:19:58] <XXCoder> check size
[05:20:13] <jthornton> ah ok that is simple
[05:20:50] <jthornton> other than that everything seems ok
[05:21:06] <XXCoder> nice
[05:21:16] <XXCoder> btw check slanting too as well as size so on lol
[05:21:31] <XXCoder> I didnt notice so venus box was "kind of" working
[05:21:43] <XXCoder> so I finally found out and fixed it :P
[05:23:27] <jthornton> slanting?
[05:24:04] <XXCoder> yeah mine was 1 mm movement per 2 cm height lol
[05:24:17] <XXCoder> so cube is more like parallelgram thingy heh
[05:26:03] <jthornton> ah ok
[05:26:29] <XXCoder> easy fix, make sure frame top is nicely 90 degree to base
[05:26:38] <XXCoder> thats why I designed my 90 degree clamp
[05:30:11] <jthornton> that makes sense
[05:30:25] <jthornton> how do you square up the Z axis?
[05:30:38] <XXCoder> 2 123 blocks lol
[05:34:38] <jthornton> square to the top of the frame?
[05:34:57] <XXCoder> no unfortunately it was just a bad hack to fix it. it worked
[05:35:17] <XXCoder> I just used it to align top with base so its closer to 90 degree.
[05:35:25] <jthornton> I used a square and raised it up till it was even on both sides
[05:36:34] <XXCoder> X axis squaring I simply used a box and adjusted till rod was nice and even on it, then adjusted bed to be close to it. not best solution though.
[06:02:45] <jthornton> is there a way to make the extruder move without the hot end up to temp?
[06:02:52] <XXCoder> nope
[06:03:10] <XXCoder> its to prevent impacts
[06:03:25] <jthornton> ok
[06:03:43] <XXCoder> if I designed it, I would allow unlimited retract but forward only when hot
[06:10:25] <Jymmm> jthornton: The other day you said that I would have 110@40A, did you mean total (2x 110@20A = 40A), or is there an actual way to get a 40A 110V circuit?
[06:10:56] <jthornton> you can have a 100a 120v circuit if you want
[06:11:14] <Jymmm> jthornton: Well, I meant with what I had been doing.
[06:12:13] <Jymmm> jthornton: Puling 220, then splitting off
[06:13:17] <jthornton> a 20a 240v circuit has two 120v 20a lines for a total of 40a
[06:14:14] <Jymmm> jthornton: Right, which is what I did. I just wasn't sure if you meant COMBINED TOTAL, or if there is an actual way to get 40A for a single branch
[06:15:25] <XXCoder> wow crazy
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:803055
[06:16:15] <jthornton> I have learned that the blue parts are just stl files and not a real part lol
[06:16:23] <XXCoder> yeah
[06:16:52] <Jymmm> jthornton: I ask, because I saw something kinda like that on a generator, but I wasn't sure how they did that, and when I called, they didn't know either =)
[06:17:07] <XXCoder> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1051769 nice idea, gonna make er11 version for my machine.,
[06:18:03] <jthornton> nice, I need one for my silver and deming drills
[06:18:36] <jthornton> I guess he used a permanent marker to label them
[06:19:17] <jthornton> ah no he used stick on labels
[06:20:45] <XXCoder> er11
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1057246
[06:21:28] <jthornton> I like the one with labels
[06:21:43] <XXCoder> er20 though heh
[06:22:17] <XXCoder> found customizable one
[06:22:19] <XXCoder> sec
[06:22:22] <jthornton> Jymmm: #10 copper is rated at 30a but we all know it will carry more
[06:22:38] <jthornton> yea, just draw one up in SW and export a stl
[06:23:07] <jthornton> #8 alum rated at 40a
[06:23:14] <jthornton> http://www.cerrowire.com/ampacity-charts
[06:23:22] <XXCoder> LOL
[06:23:32] <XXCoder> just did 50 columns 3 rows version
[06:23:34] <XXCoder> crazy.
[06:24:01] <XXCoder> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:253291
[06:24:07] <XXCoder> you can select collet size apparently
[06:24:33] <XXCoder> https://www.thingiverse.com/make:162398 not bad
[06:25:11] <jthornton> looks nice
[06:25:23] <jthornton> I have a bunch of wood boxes for mine
[06:25:46] <jthornton> I need to make one for the BP collets
[06:25:54] <XXCoder> yeah. this does show that 3d printer is nice addon to cnc shop
[06:26:04] <XXCoder> theres endless little odds and ends it can do
[06:26:22] <jthornton> did you add slic3r to repeiter?
[06:26:23] <XXCoder> heck I designed a clamp for spindle heh
[06:26:35] <XXCoder> I stopped using repeiter
[06:26:40] <XXCoder> im using pronterface now
[06:28:04] <Jymmm> jthornton: Ok, it looks like they changed the photos and updated the description (it used to say something about that 110/220 switch and 110V@30A -
https://www.amazon.com/DuroMax-XP4400EH-Starting-Portable-Generator/dp/B009RBKGZC
[06:29:56] <XXCoder> jthornton:
https://youtu.be/-m8uWz-qf7Y dang
[06:31:46] <jthornton> cool
[06:40:45] <Jymmm> I think I should start a cross the boarder smuggling business! And by boarded, I don't mean into mexico/canada, but to arizona/nevada as more and more I keep seeing this crap... Not for sale to California Residents. (that generator, which the company is is california)
[06:41:15] <Jymmm> I already had to have a friend smuggle in MEK from nevada
[06:41:19] <XXCoder> lol
[06:41:47] <Jymmm> Nect thing I need to get smuggled in is oil based primer
[06:42:02] <XXCoder> one of silly webcomics "future history" calfornia oregon and washington split from usa. :P wonder if that will ever happen
[06:42:48] <Jymmm> XXCoder: Theres a thing about Northern California becoming the 51st state =)
[06:43:20] <Jymmm> XXCoder:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_%28proposed_Pacific_state%29
[06:43:31] <XXCoder> of course that comic has Texas becoming theorcy country
[06:43:36] <XXCoder> yeah heard of that
[06:43:55] <Jymmm> XXCoder: what country?
[06:44:13] <XXCoder> theocy goverment = religion based goverment
[06:44:23] <Jymmm> oh gawd
[06:44:29] <XXCoder> yeah
[06:45:32] <Jymmm> and Ted Nugent be the President
[06:45:49] <XXCoder> no idea who that is
[06:46:10] <Jymmm> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent
[06:46:49] <XXCoder> lol
[06:46:55] <Jymmm> singer and big time big gun owner.... he hunts on his own land in texas =)
[06:47:17] <XXCoder> crazy
[06:47:35] <XXCoder> im fine with hunting actually, just hunt animals we have tgoo manhy of
[06:47:36] <jthornton> Ted Nugent you can't grill it till you kill it
[06:47:39] <XXCoder> like say deer
[06:47:51] <Jymmm> jthornton: =)
[06:47:54] <XXCoder> not fucking underpopulated animals
[06:48:21] <jthornton> did you have any troubles getting pronterface to work? I get some errors when I try and open a stl file
[06:48:27] <Jymmm> XXCoder: No, he basically has so much land, that he has his own animal reserve that he cares for and maintains.
[06:48:58] <XXCoder> jthornton: dunno i dont slice in pronterface I just open stl directly in slic3r, slice export gcode
[06:49:05] <XXCoder> then load gcode in pronterface
[06:50:36] <jthornton> ah ok
[06:51:01] <Jymmm> jthornton: What made you hop on the glue gun band wagon? Or have you been wanting to for a while?
[06:54:18] <Jymmm> XXCoder: Have you made anything to/for sale?
[06:54:32] <XXCoder> not yet im just futzing around heh
[06:54:45] <Jymmm> XXCoder: how long have you had yours?
[06:54:52] <XXCoder> hmm 2 months now?
[06:54:56] <Jymmm> k
[06:57:34] <XXCoder> honestly I hope to make even that way, then no worries about after
[06:57:41] <XXCoder> im not in for profit but fun
[06:58:14] <XXCoder> I made a tiny black skull and left it on my bro's picture frame, couple days before they saw it lol
[06:58:34] <Jymmm> heh
[06:58:40] <XXCoder> I left it at work on top of one of cnc machine control box, see if they find it
[06:59:00] <Jymmm> For fun, I get it.
[06:59:24] <XXCoder> it was a failed print, strictly cost wise it cost me maybe $2
[06:59:36] <XXCoder> no supports so it was bit droppy
[06:59:36] <jthornton> I have enough parts to build a nice one but for $218 I figured this was a fast way to get my fingers burned
[06:59:37] <Jymmm> and how many hours?
[06:59:42] <XXCoder> 32 minutes
[06:59:47] <Jymmm> XXCoder: ah
[07:00:07] <Jymmm> jthornton: I mean in general, not just the china special
[07:00:10] <XXCoder> it was very fine too, .1 mm resolution
[07:00:26] <jthornton> to print things
[07:00:33] <Jymmm> jthornton: DUH
[07:00:47] <Jymmm> jthornton: for fun?
[07:00:50] <XXCoder> https://www.thingiverse.com/XXCoder/makes
[07:00:55] <XXCoder> stuff I made so far
[07:01:17] <XXCoder> Jymmm: atomic filiment glowy plastic... really glows. it glows for long time
[07:01:31] <XXCoder> I love grumpy pumpkin lol
[07:01:45] <Jymmm> XXCoder: how big is your platform?
[07:01:56] <XXCoder> 200mmx200mmx190mm
[07:02:17] <XXCoder> it was orginially all 200mm but with my anti-wobble adoptor I lost 1 cm height
[07:02:17] <Jymmm> wutz dat in american ?
[07:02:32] <XXCoder> 7.9 in approx
[07:02:59] <Jymmm> XXCoder: oh, 8"... you can make gitd decorations to hang on the wall, then use a black light
[07:03:11] <XXCoder> gitd?
[07:03:19] <Jymmm> gitd = glow in the dark
[07:03:24] <XXCoder> hh yeah
[07:03:33] <XXCoder> I was thinking very thin prints
[07:03:47] <Jymmm> I meant ones you use every year
[07:03:51] <XXCoder> 1 mm thick heh
[07:04:27] <XXCoder> https://www.thingiverse.com/make:257465 the skull btw
[07:05:52] <Jymmm> it looks good, it's just the whole <$1k layers of plastic spaghetti I don't care for.
[07:06:08] <XXCoder> heh my machine is $250
[07:06:30] <Jymmm> cool
[07:06:33] <XXCoder> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1804112 this helped a LOT on print quality
[07:07:13] <XXCoder> second picture shows it in action, as well as my favorite sauce
[07:07:26] <Jymmm> rooster sauce
[07:07:34] <XXCoder> cock sauce
[07:07:40] <Jymmm> Made in LA =)
[07:07:52] <Jymmm> Los Angeles
[07:08:06] <XXCoder> sadly it does not work with soylent :(
[07:08:13] <XXCoder> I got violently sick and vomited it
[07:08:22] <Jymmm> ITS PEOPLE!!!!
[07:08:55] <XXCoder> funny thing is that its that onbly in movie
[07:08:59] <XXCoder> book its not people
[07:09:17] <Jymmm> what is it in the book?
[07:10:45] <XXCoder> sec
[07:12:15] <XXCoder> (soy and lentil) steak
[07:12:27] <XXCoder> book is "make room! make room!
[07:12:41] <XXCoder> soylent green was loosely based on that
[07:13:05] <Jymmm> Eh, I like the people part
[07:13:37] <XXCoder> yeah it does add "oh shit" factor.
[07:14:17] <Jymmm> Well, what else you gonna do when there's nothing else to eat? lol
[07:15:19] <XXCoder> make ecoli that can digest wood, then adopt people to eat wood or paper produces
[07:15:41] <XXCoder> with some more adopton, grass though thats hell on teeth heh
[07:15:45] <Jymmm> lol
[07:15:53] <XXCoder> now that may be new soylent GREEN, blended grass.
[07:16:40] <XXCoder> one of few stuff I hope to happen is adoption of bamboo as replacement of all hardwood
[07:16:49] <XXCoder> bamboo grows like grass, literally
[07:16:55] <XXCoder> (bamboo is same family)
[07:17:18] <XXCoder> WSU (washington state university) has been running a bamboo farm for a while
[07:17:20] <Jymmm> Yeah, and they can process it into some pretty amazing things, and strong as hell
[07:17:43] <Jymmm> and rot resistant
[07:18:00] <XXCoder> yeah
[07:18:23] <XXCoder> I want bamboo planted area :( though I would only use cluster type not runner
[07:18:27] <XXCoder> runner can be hell to managew
[07:18:53] <Jymmm> be careful of cluster too, can have the same effect =)
[07:19:12] <XXCoder> isnt it just stop after certain range? like 9 ft for one breed
[07:19:35] <Jymmm> I think it really depends on the species, and there are zillions of them.
[07:19:45] <XXCoder> yeah
[07:19:56] <XXCoder> honestly AI would do a smaller breed in pot
[07:20:04] <XXCoder> big pot, metal lined
[07:22:36] <jthornton> http://www.filastruder.com/collections/titanextruder/products/e3d-titan-extruder
[07:23:37] <XXCoder> pretty cool, bit high price
[07:42:11] <gregcnc> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lncrr_7aJE
[07:43:20] <XXCoder> machinist stuff heh nice
[07:43:39] <XXCoder> restarted with autocaptions on
[07:45:17] <XXCoder> "since we are not expecting dawn till april" lol
[07:45:25] <XXCoder> that ad is nice
[07:50:21] <gregcnc> this is cool I read that it uses a lot of power though
https://youtu.be/eoIQmWd8LTQ?t=34s
[07:57:40] <gregcnc> I ran some parts on the Emco mill yesterday. A board is flaky. Tracked it down to one connector. pulled the board and reflowed the pins
[07:58:23] <gregcnc> this helped, but with a little more effort on the connector, same problem it ran the rest of the day though
[07:58:55] <gregcnc> have to check if anyone has done the turret control in Linuxcnc, i know several were done in Mach
[08:12:41] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/files/linuxcnc/configs/cl-turret-sim.zip
[08:12:53] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/shop/hardinge/hardinge.xhtml
[08:15:07] <DaViruz> i'm also planning on linuxcnc'ing an emco mill. vmc100
[08:15:29] <DaViruz> from what i can gather making the turret work shouldn't be too much of a problem
[08:15:45] <jthornton> what kind of turret do you have?
[08:16:07] <DaViruz> it's an oddball which uses z movement to actuate a cam that unlocks the drawbar
[08:16:32] <jthornton> that is odd
[08:16:59] <XXCoder> bleh my tb6600s and BOB is not shipped yet
[08:17:15] <jthornton> how many did you get?
[08:17:24] <XXCoder> 3 tb6600s
[08:17:35] <XXCoder> single axis ones
[08:17:55] <DaViruz> one of my stepper drivers are busted though, and i've spent a year on and off trying to fix it without too much luck
[08:17:56] <jthornton> ah
[08:18:14] <jthornton> DaViruz: like this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD6pMAORJCA
[08:18:23] <DaViruz> the steppers are of course also oddballs. five phase..
[08:18:29] <XXCoder> jthornton: its a electrics upgrade for my machine, tb6560 sucks
[08:18:58] <DaViruz> jthornton: yep. that motor on the front is not original though
[08:19:05] <DaViruz> usually it rotates the turret by a gear on the spindle
[08:19:07] <XXCoder> I couldnt find a setting where it runs smoothly
[08:19:24] <XXCoder> and BOB would allow me to connect more stuff easier like spindle speed sensor for feedback
[08:19:25] <jthornton> that's why I use Gecko stepper drives
[08:19:42] <jthornton> the morph from 10 micro to full and it's adjustable
[08:19:52] <XXCoder> I found a article saying use pfe to control pwm which confused me
[08:20:06] <jthornton> cool down done so time to hit the shower
[08:20:07] <DaViruz> i don't think i'd ever consider getting something other then gecko once i tried them
[08:20:09] <gregcnc> I think many turret machines like Robodrill and brother used the cam in the past
[08:20:18] <XXCoder> I guess I still dont understand how do spindle control :(
[08:20:42] <XXCoder> thats why i havent bought any 52mm spindle yet
[08:23:22] <XXCoder> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Upgraded-5-Axis-CNC-Breakout-Board-for-Stepper-Motor-Driver-Mach3-USB-Cable/32738646022.html
[08:23:25] <XXCoder> BOB
[08:30:25] <jdh> high quality ali
[08:30:57] <_methods> jumbo shrimp
[08:31:31] <jdh> got storm?
[08:32:49] <XXCoder> jdh: yeah chinese high quality
[08:33:04] <XXCoder> same as crap, only it has high quality discrptor.
[08:34:13] <gregcnc> daviruz that guy added a stepper on the front to rotate the turret avoiding the issue of using the spindle for that
[08:37:47] <_methods> not yet
[08:37:53] <_methods> bands are starting to come thru
[08:38:08] <_methods> nothing exciting yet
[08:44:00] <MacGalempsy> Party at Cromaglious' place!
[08:57:40] <JT-Shop> yea I don't have to go to the post office to ship to Poland
[09:09:02] <MacGalempsy> internationally bound spyder parts?
[09:13:47] <JT-Shop> Mesa cards
[09:14:07] <JT-Shop> XXCoder: I'm getting inconsistent feeds :(
[09:16:37] <MacGalempsy> congrats on another sale.
[09:18:48] <JT-Shop> thanks
[09:23:45] <JesusAlos> Hi
[09:26:49] <TurBoss> Hi
[10:47:58] * Jymmm pokes CaptHindsight with the working end of a stun gun! "Watch him wiggle (on the ground), see him jiggle..."
[10:56:01] <gregcnc> jymmm is a swell guy
[10:56:42] <Jymmm> gregcnc: Hey, I was nice... I dind't dump a bucket of salt water on him first ;)
[11:28:14] <fris_> Hi room
[11:29:04] <fris_> can I use ubuntu 16.04 and using linux cnc?
[11:29:45] <cradek> possibly, but not without doing some work on your own finding a realtime kernel (if you intend to control machinery) and building linuxcnc against it
[11:30:14] <cradek> please report back your experience
[11:31:52] <fris_> cradek: if I want to run a little cnc for hobbey and controler is tb6560 what is the best version ofr linuxCNC ( I think to use CamBam with this...)
[11:32:25] <cradek> for easiest setup, just use the linuxcnc install cd
[11:33:42] <fris_> cradek: I try 2.7.7 debian and this one doen't run i fix 10.04 ubunt with cnc 2.5.5 this one is runnig on demon mode but I cannot active my cnc
[11:33:51] <FAalbers> Finished my very first CNC router project . Birdhouse for my daughter. She still needs to glue it together.
http://i.imgur.com/Efr7VFK.jpg
[11:35:40] <fris_> FAalbers: bravo
[11:35:55] <FAalbers> thnx ! :)
[11:37:49] <Jymmm> Man, she must be really really small to fit in there!
[11:40:33] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: please stop involving me in your online fantasy fetishes
[11:40:57] <FAalbers> Jymmm, Hah ! Second reaction today saying thesame thing ! :)
[11:41:04] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Fine... LIVE AND IN PERSON
[11:41:13] <Jymmm> FAalbers: =)
[11:41:50] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Thank you for *ALL* your help! Very much appreciated, all done and working =)
[11:42:26] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: if I wanted to get stun gunned I'd flip off a neighborhood cop
[11:42:49] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Nah, they carry tazers, not stun guns =)
[11:42:58] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: so are the wires all charged up? No smoke?
[11:44:16] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Nope, no smoke, and even tested with one of these too =)
https://1510365blog.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/how-to-check-electrical-receptacle-polarity-2.jpg
[11:46:06] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: The only thing is the breaker is (what I feel to be) "loose", but I'll need to grab another one to confirm.
http://i.imgur.com/T0ufPa0.jpg
[11:46:29] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: It could just be the design too, not sure.
[11:47:43] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: thats why that co went out of business
[11:48:02] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Yeah, so I heard.
[11:48:43] <CaptHindsight> did Pete take off to the other side of Florida?
[11:49:02] <Jymmm> Gator bait!
[11:50:41] <CaptHindsight> looks like the eye is just grazing the coastline
[11:51:44] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: REAL TIME
http://nowcoast.noaa.gov/
[12:04:27] <_methods> nah pete was ridin it out
[12:04:33] <_methods> still some power outages in his area
[12:04:44] <_methods> first real bands are starting to hit me now
[12:10:34] <Tom_L> where is 'me' at?
[12:10:48] <_methods> charleston sc
[12:11:04] <Tom_L> inlaws in savannah
[12:11:26] <_methods> yeah tybee and savannah are gettin it pretty good now it looks like
[12:11:43] <Tom_L> <- been swimmin there
[12:11:45] <_methods> jacksonville too
[12:12:00] <Tom_L> just not today :)
[12:12:11] <_methods> haha bring your water wings
[12:12:20] <_methods> and a flare gun
[12:17:32] <JT-Shop> _methods: do you have a ramps 1.4?
[12:18:52] <_methods> yeah
[12:18:56] <_methods> why?
[12:19:09] <JT-Shop> how do you save a setting like Esteps/mm?
[12:19:28] <_methods> oh well i depends on your firmware i believe
[12:19:31] <JT-Shop> I have the lcd screen with the knob and push button
[12:19:33] <JT-Shop> marlin
[12:20:06] <_methods> hell i haven't used my printer in so long i don't remember exactly
[12:20:12] <JT-Shop> ok
[12:20:21] <CaptHindsight> _methods: it's cleverly disguised in the firmware configs
[12:20:25] <_methods> but i know i used to put it in the firmware
[12:20:31] <_methods> yeah
[12:21:00] <JT-Shop> so you have to use the ardunio software to "load" your changes?
[12:21:04] <_methods> yeah
[12:21:07] <nubcake> yup
[12:21:12] <JT-Shop> ok
[12:21:12] <_methods> unless they've changed something
[12:21:14] <nubcake> woops.. to late
[12:21:26] <CaptHindsight> I had to add several comments or I'd forget where they have them
[12:21:28] <IchGucksLive> hi
[12:21:36] <JT-Shop> you can change settings on the screen but I guess they don't stick
[12:21:37] <nubcake> hey, alles klar ?
[12:21:49] <IchGucksLive> immer
[12:22:07] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: yeah it's compile and flash every time, the debugger is the real world hardware
[12:22:11] <JT-Shop> ah M500 - stores parameters in EEPROM
[12:22:11] <nubcake> sagmal, bei dem BOB hier, sind das 12v beim estop oder 24?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-axis-CNC-Breakout-Board-with-optical-coupler-For-Stepper-Motor-Driver-MACH3-/321565835927
[12:22:17] <nubcake> falls du das weißt
[12:22:30] <_methods> yeah you can store them that's right
[12:22:35] <_methods> been awhile
[12:22:50] <_methods> yeah that should save any changes you make
[12:22:58] <JT-Shop> I found a page that explains it
[12:24:08] <Roguish> check the weather............
http://cartech.ides.com/datasheet.aspx?i=103&e=72
[12:24:09] <IchGucksLive> nubcake: the iputs are only groundet no Voltige
[12:24:27] <nubcake> aw crap.. :(
[12:24:48] <nubcake> so i can't use the sensors i already have here
[12:25:03] <nubcake> need the ones switching against ground then..
[12:25:08] * nubcake sighs*
[12:25:19] <CaptHindsight> _methods: you'd think that someone after all this time would have cleaned up the config and also added sane default values for accel, jogs etc
[12:25:45] <IchGucksLive> nubcake: you ned a relai
[12:25:50] <IchGucksLive> hit my name
[12:25:51] <_methods> yeah i remember the config files could get kind of crazy
[12:25:53] <nubcake> or that
[12:26:19] <Roguish> sorry, wrong copy. try this for the hurricane
https://www.windytv.com/?pressure,23.883,-79.251,5
[12:26:19] <_methods> between the configs for the firmware, the slicer and the gcode "sender"
[12:26:23] <nubcake> but i'd prefer havin no relais in between
[12:26:26] <nubcake> ^
[12:26:57] <IchGucksLive> better is it then you got 12V on the full mashien or even 24 if larger and real industry
[12:27:20] <nubcake> 24v on the whole machine right now
[12:27:46] <_methods> seems like some of the "software" had overlapping configs that would cause issues canceling stuff out or changing the intended operation
[12:28:05] <CaptHindsight> _methods: yes another feature
[12:28:06] <IchGucksLive> so why not invest 10euros for a 6Relai chain and you are in full 24V input
[12:30:11] <CaptHindsight> _methods: it helped me to better grasp what it's like to have a disability, like watching "A Beautiful Mind"
[12:44:08] <IchGucksLive> 500 kiled on huricane in haiti severe storm mathue is
[12:51:07] <IchGucksLive> Gn8
[12:54:32] <nubcake> http://pastebin.com/mcCHe54e when trying to test Y-Axis in stepconf
[12:58:05] <MacGalempsy__> finally making chips today
[12:58:15] <nubcake___> Nice
[12:59:08] <MacGalempsy__> hoping to do a burn test today
[13:04:54] <CaptHindsight> MacGalempsy__: did you get the EDM running again?
[13:06:42] <CaptHindsight> http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/wan/5813353372.html Looking to buy working and nonworking CNC
[13:07:03] <CaptHindsight> I don't think that the $111111 offer is legit :)
[13:10:29] <FloppyDisk525> Run! Reseller...
[13:12:11] <Erant> Hehe. I'm actually going to sort of side-ways look at halfway decent mills.
[13:13:13] <Erant> Mistakes were made with the Chinese mill, and I'll live with them for a while. But maybe in a year or so, once I'm thoroughly fed up with this guy...
[13:13:38] <Erant> And don't feel so bad about spending a bunch of money on it :P
[13:13:40] <CaptHindsight> "SALE PRICES!!!!!!! really expensive new Priced to blow out of shop."
[13:14:17] <Erant> Will they physically blow out of the shop?
[13:14:20] <Erant> That sounds bad.
[13:15:06] <CaptHindsight> hehe from this
http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/tls/5808312857.html
[13:15:06] <Erant> Maybe I shouldn't be looking at the DynaMyte CNC machines...
[13:18:36] <CaptHindsight> "sorry, the pictures are pretty lame."
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/tls/5815457169.html
[13:18:51] <nubcake> is this
https://www.amazon.de/L298N-Bridge-Stepper-Controller-Arduino/dp/B013QTC18K/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1475862559&sr=8-7&keywords=stepper+driver suitable/capable of driving nema 17 Stepper Motors with 1.7Amps ?
[13:19:12] <gregcnc> I'm not sure the pictures are the reason it hasn't sold yet
[13:19:31] <nubcake> wondering if i should turn my tiny proxxon into an engraving cnc
[13:22:37] <Erant> nubcake: "driving voltage ranges from 5V to 35V while logical current ranges from 0mA to 36mA and driving current is 2A."
[13:22:44] <Erant> So... Yes?
[13:23:12] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: Enco lathe with the Start and Jog buttons cleverly removed
http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/for/5814508663.html
[13:24:14] <gregcnc> just plug it in
[13:25:34] <CaptHindsight> well all those wires, relays and motor connections can get complicated
[13:25:45] <gregcnc> less to fail
[13:26:09] <CaptHindsight> oh so it's a high rel model, gotcha
[13:26:28] <gregcnc> for estop tie the cord to your belt so if you get sucked in it unplugs
[13:26:56] <CaptHindsight> sounds reasonable, safety first yah know
[13:28:06] <gregcnc> https://www.instagram.com/p/BLJPuhBDZ0V/
[13:29:56] <CaptHindsight> " The backlash is a little over 1/2 turn compound and 1/2 turn crossfeed."
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/tld/5789712648.html
[13:30:41] <CaptHindsight> Suckers wanted! Buy my worn out, broken and dangerous machines.
[13:31:15] <CaptHindsight> there's not a decent lathe listed today
[13:31:46] <gregcnc> i don't think I saw anything interesting this week
[13:32:07] <CaptHindsight> http://racine.craigslist.org/tls/5788734322.html maybe
[13:32:41] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9sCoo31c34 with video
[13:33:05] <gregcnc> bigger than it looks in the pic
[13:33:35] <CaptHindsight> I'd offer $2500
[13:37:26] <CaptHindsight> http://s.ecrater.com/stores/376610/576d78a8f0c8a_376610b.jpg bigger pic
[13:38:30] <Erant> CaptHindsight: You looking for a new lathe, or just... window shopping? :)
[13:42:45] <Jymmm> How to clean dryer vent in 4 easy steps: 1) Remove cover on outside. 2) Make 4" ball out of course packaging/kraft paper or paper bag. 3) Remove hose from back of dryer and insert ball into hose. 4) Attach hose to exhaust to dust collector and flip the switch.
[13:43:03] <Jymmm> s/to/of/
[13:52:11] <nubcake> Erant, thanks, i was just wondering if that thing's of any use for a small router
[13:52:43] <CaptHindsight> Erant: currently lathe free, and might need one before I move shortly
[13:56:58] <Erant> nubcake: Yeah, it'll be fine.
[13:58:38] <nubcake> Erant, thanks :)
[15:28:41] * JT-Shop is printing a test part :)
[15:34:50] <andypugh> I am thinking about making another machine. I have this idea for a wall-mounted, open-sided, folding general purpose thing for plasma / 3d print / any other experiments.
[15:35:08] <andypugh> Open-sided so I can plasma parts from large sheets.
[15:35:53] <jesseg> andypugh, cool
[15:36:02] <jesseg> you do need pretty good speed for plamsa, right?
[15:37:26] <JT-Shop> for my torch max speed for 26ga is 550IPM optimum speed is 350IPM
[15:37:44] <JT-Shop> what would you vary? the Z?
[15:38:46] <andypugh> Yes
[15:43:30] <JT-Shop> how would you change the Z?
[15:50:33] <andypugh> I haven’t given it a huge amount of thought yet :-)
[15:55:21] <_methods_> cantilever plasma
[15:55:53] <_methods_> https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSRUxYkyK5RRuxOIr_oVMxjuBY6c8ncd-E4ipeVNgUTnPFg1zyupw
[15:56:17] <_methods_> http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5102/5690844878_d44901516f_o.jpg
[15:56:20] <_methods_> little one
[15:58:24] <Cromaglious_> _methods, NICE!
[15:58:51] <Cromaglious_> that'll handle long sheets nicely!
[15:58:52] <_methods> yeah i've been lookin at those for awhile for my garage since i have limited space
[15:59:35] <_methods> fit right up against the wall
[15:59:50] <_methods> and you can move the work table out from under it when not in use
[15:59:57] <_methods> have a multipurpose table
[16:00:05] <_methods> when it's not a cutting table its a work table
[16:01:01] <Cromaglious_> That could be modded to handle a laser tube as well
[16:01:04] <_methods> i'm sure you could mount it some way that flips up like andypugh was talkin about
[16:01:27] <JT-Shop> yea I toss a piece of osb on mine for an extra flat place
[16:48:19] <Deejay> gn8
[17:08:05] <andypugh> Have you all seern Fern’s new “NativeCAM” for LinuxCNC? (It’s “Features” but much improved)
[17:08:35] <JT-Shop> no, I have not
[17:08:56] <os1r1s> andypugh Link
[17:08:58] <os1r1s> ?
[17:09:29] <andypugh> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjOe4VxKL86HyVrshTmiUBQ
[17:10:21] <os1r1s> andypugh Do you happen to know if there is a good mastercam post processor for linuxcnc around?
[17:10:34] <JT-Shop> https://ibin.co/2xh1CWkXC8GN.jpg
[17:12:27] <_methods> os1r1s: just use the standard fanuc post works just fine for me with linuxcnc
[17:13:12] <_methods> mcam posts are pretty trivial to edit anyways if you wanted to change anything
[17:14:07] <os1r1s> _methods Cool. Thx
[17:16:04] <andypugh> Seeing definable starting stock appear in the preview window of LinuxCNC is a bit special :-)
[17:20:40] <FloppyDisk525> What's in the camoulaged bottle, I can't see it!? It's camouflaged... Nice 3d Printer!
[17:22:20] <FloppyDisk525> JT - how does that 'external' feed for the filament work? My old prusa has the stepper just above the hot end. I suppose it works fine, just don't ahve any experience w/ one...
[17:23:10] <andypugh> it has the advabtage that you are not trying to throw the feed motor around.
[17:23:14] <JT-Shop> that's my evening cerveza
[17:23:50] <andypugh> It’s a lot of parts for $200
[17:24:08] <JT-Shop> it's a real cheap printer so I don't expect much however it is surprising me every minute
[17:24:17] <JT-Shop> that's a Bowden setup
[17:24:45] <andypugh> They call it that. I am not sure it counds, as it’s a push rather than pull.
[17:25:33] <andypugh> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowden_cable
[17:30:33] <JT-Shop> delivered by DHL in 4 days from hong kong
[17:31:27] <MacGalempsy_> Well, got the burner manifold bolted together.
https://flic.kr/p/M2ckgb
[17:32:30] <MacGalempsy_> https://flic.kr/p/MRi8ex
[17:33:00] <MacGalempsy_> it took screwing up the first one with a too complex design and a few broken drill bits
[17:35:07] <JT-Shop> oil burner?
[17:40:13] <MacGalempsy_> no, propane and gas
[17:40:25] <MacGalempsy_> the second port is to enrich the reaction
[17:42:29] <MacGalempsy_> got to run up to lowes for a couple of fittings
[17:47:09] <_methods> hope no one in here has a wells fargo bank acct
[17:48:07] <_methods> looks like they lost control of all their accts
[17:48:31] <_methods> and "hackers" are withdrawing from peoples accts
[17:49:29] <_methods> There is a strong speculation right now that in the exodus of WF employees from that scandal, a large list of accounts also went with it. Weve been working with google, and apparently somebody has been testing bank acconts, all work, all wells fargo
[17:49:41] <_methods> doh
[17:50:51] <MacGalempsy_> maybe the hackers will pay off one of my houses
[17:51:09] <_methods> hahah
[17:51:13] <_methods> that would be nice
[17:51:22] <_methods> probably won't work out too well for you in the end though
[17:52:24] <_methods> i have no idea how accurate that statement is
[17:52:37] <_methods> just a heads up i thought i'd post
[17:52:43] <_methods> could be BS
[17:53:48] <Nick-Shop> I have a Tool Touch Off Box that's greyed out with an active box above it marked with just Touch Off. In that box there is no tool table for lathe.
[17:53:50] <Nick-Shop> How do I correct that?
[17:54:25] <Nick-Shop> Axis with Lathe = 1
[17:56:15] <JT-Shop> have you homed the machine?
[17:56:26] <Nick-Shop> yes
[17:57:02] <Nick-Shop> m6 t1 gives me no tool in tool table and that file is there
[17:57:38] <JT-Shop> might be a problem with the tool table or a typo for the tool table
[17:58:44] <Nick-Shop> think I found it - file is lathe .tbl - I'll go change it
[17:58:45] <JT-Shop> if your running a recent version with an old tool table there might be a difference can't remember
[17:58:54] <JT-Shop> great
[17:59:03] <Nick-Shop> running 2.77
[18:03:20] <Nick-Shop> didn't change anything -changed properties to r7w also restated axis
[18:05:43] <XXCoder> JT-Shop: not consient extrude? that is strange
[18:05:54] <Nick-Shop> 2.77 sim-axis has lathe.tbl
[18:10:24] <JT-Shop> XXCoder: got that sorted out, had to make a shim for the bearing and fart with the tension
[18:10:48] <XXCoder> interesting. well glad you solved it :)
[18:10:59] <JT-Shop> printed a few parts with the chinlee filament came out looking like the part but a bit off in size
[18:11:39] <XXCoder> how do pla smell like when printing?
[18:13:52] <JT-Shop> no smell to me
[18:14:07] <JT-Shop> had to fart with temps etc to get it to stick to the plate
[18:14:22] <JT-Shop> read you don't use blue tape with bed heat
[18:14:32] <JT-Shop> printing a spool hub now
[18:16:30] <JT-Shop> JT-Shop>
https://ibin.co/2xh1CWkXC8GN.jpg
[18:20:02] <JT-Shop> time to start the wings
[18:20:03] <XXCoder> nice
[18:20:12] <XXCoder> and bah you have more room than I do lol
[18:20:59] <XXCoder> no smell is interesting, I read that good pla smells sweet, while chinese it can smell bad and bit toxic
[18:21:52] <tiwake> XXCoder: why do people have to be stupid?
[18:22:21] <XXCoder> ?
[18:22:27] <tiwake> IRC
[18:22:32] <tiwake> people are idiots
[18:22:47] <tiwake> except for about half of this channel... give or take
[18:23:04] <XXCoder> ah chances im on the stupid half by 50%
[18:23:14] <nubcake> guess same applies to me
[18:23:16] <nubcake> :3
[18:23:35] <andypugh> JT-Shop: Print the wings
[18:24:12] <XXCoder> just dont fly too close to sun
[18:44:33] <JT-Shop> lol it's still printing and has not fallen over... must be doing something right
[18:45:08] <JT-Shop> andypugh: prob not to tasty printed from pla
[18:45:39] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/recipes/chicken/honey-sriracha-wings.html
[18:45:46] <JT-Shop> making these tonight
[18:45:57] <XXCoder> wings. it has wings
[18:46:21] <JT-Shop> XXCoder: I was ready to toss the BullDog XL on there but got the extruder to work
[18:46:34] <XXCoder> what was issue
[18:47:15] <JT-Shop> post too small and bolt too tight I think, as usual I fixed three things at once lol
[18:47:44] <JT-Shop> bearing wobbled all over the place and the arm it was attached to was too tight
[18:48:12] <Erant> Hmm, wonder if I should go pick this ball screw up:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/tls/5805005440.html it's too big for what I need, but for $45...
[18:48:41] <andypugh> Did you look at NativeCAM yet? I am rather impressed.
[18:48:57] <JT-Shop> I even got the chinlee filament to work more or less
[18:49:06] <JT-Shop> I'll look in the morning
[18:50:50] <XXCoder> jt chinese filiment suck, I would recommand atomic. way easier to print with
[18:51:55] <JT-Shop> my atomic came in today, just printing a spool adapter for them
[18:51:57] <Tom_itx> zlog
[18:52:04] <JT-Shop> hola Tom_itx
[18:52:19] <JT-Shop> kinda cool to watch it print
[18:53:03] <XXCoder> nice
[18:53:11] <Tom_itx> evening
[18:53:25] <XXCoder> and yeah. so different from cnc milling!
[18:53:49] <Tom_itx> now you need to search on grabcad for stuff
[18:53:50] <XXCoder> im thinking on what to make with petg tests
[18:54:07] <JT-Shop> thingiverse.com
[18:54:11] <XXCoder> I tend to make my own stuff and also download stuff
[18:54:17] <Tom_itx> thingiverse is full of lots of crap
[18:54:26] <XXCoder> it is lol
[18:54:28] <JT-Shop> yea make it in SW then export the stl
[18:54:33] <JT-Shop> yep
[18:54:37] <JT-Shop> full of crap
[18:54:42] <XXCoder> https://www.thingiverse.com/XXCoder/designs what I made so far lol
[18:54:44] <Tom_itx> usually grabcad has some useful stuff
[18:54:50] <JT-Shop> but a few gems hiding in the static
[18:55:31] <Tom_itx> i needed some 2.5" drive adapters and got them right off their site
[18:58:00] <Tom_itx> https://grabcad.com/library/hard-drive-adapter-1
[18:58:09] <Tom_itx> printed that standing on end
[18:58:16] <Tom_itx> bridged just fine
[18:58:41] * JT-Shop goes inside to check the wings
[19:11:31] <nubcake> does anyone have a printable LED holder for the prusa i3 printer (extruder mount) ? ^^
[19:47:18] <Erant> nubcake: Sounds like an excellent project to learn CAD
[19:47:40] <Erant> Fusion360's just a few clicks away :)
[19:55:18] <nubcake> Erant, i'm already drawing one right now, still it's quite interesting to see other people's approach to the same thing
[19:57:01] <XXCoder> JT-Shop: printing petg for first time heh
[20:18:21] <MacGalempsy__> The victory burn
https://flic.kr/p/M2ncwx
[20:18:54] <XXCoder> jet of some kjind?
[20:18:55] <MacGalempsy__> so the initial tip was 0.023 and it was not big enough to supply enough gas to the burner
[20:19:14] <MacGalempsy__> the propane burner for the forges my buddy and I are pouring tomorrow
[20:19:50] <nubcake> night everyone
[20:20:04] <MacGalempsy__> went to the 0.04 tip and plenty of gas. running the compressor line to the burner, the combustion was excellent
[20:27:18] <Erant> MacGalempsy_: Nice.
[20:28:02] <XXCoder> nice MacGalempsy__
[20:28:44] <MacGalempsy_> thanks
[20:28:56] <Erant> Huh. How d'you like that VMC4000?
[20:29:07] <MacGalempsy_> it got so hot, the middle of the black pipe started glowing
[20:29:40] <MacGalempsy_> it gets the job I need done, when that thing is aluminum
[20:29:52] <MacGalempsy_> it can only make a 0.02" deep cut
[20:30:14] <Erant> Huh. Isn't that like a 2HP machine?
[20:30:39] <MacGalempsy_> full rapid is 200ipm, but that is scary, so I run it at max 100ipm
[20:30:51] <MacGalempsy_> it is
[20:31:26] <Erant> 0.02" deep... by how wide...
[20:31:51] <MacGalempsy_> 2" facing milll, and most everything
[20:34:17] <MacGalempsy_> i just dont think it has the rigidit, I was going higher to like 0.04", but it seemed to be getting hot
[20:36:05] <Erant> Ah. I can't go above like a 3/8" end mill, so ;P
[20:36:48] <SpeedEvil> https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2016/10/its-propulsion-evolution-raptor-engine/
[20:36:48] <SpeedEvil> It also demonstrates the use of 3D printing, with 40 percent of the engine utilizing this technology when measured by mass.
[20:45:52] <tiwake> reading about the operating pressure for the combustion chamber...
[20:46:01] <tiwake> insane
[20:47:01] <tiwake> its still less efficient than Project Orion, developed in the 50's and 60's
[20:47:24] <XXCoder> isnt that one that uses nuclear bombs?
[20:48:08] <tiwake> with an ISP of many thousands of seconds
[20:48:25] <tiwake> still the most efficient and cheapest way to get stuff in space.
[20:50:50] <tiwake> while its not quite a linear relationship, it basically is... for the amount of mass to space vs the mass of fuel
[20:52:37] <tiwake> back when USA had the capability to think big and build big, it has now lost that ability.
[20:58:35] <XXCoder> im no nuclear fearmonger but I still say no to repeative nuclear bombs in air
[20:59:18] <tiwake> XXCoder: for what reason?
[20:59:42] <XXCoder> radioactivity dont fade for long time.
[21:00:50] <tiwake> radioactive stuff only comes from interacting with stuff... the atmosphere does not have much stuff
[21:01:02] <XXCoder> you kidding?
[21:01:02] <tiwake> the ground has lots of stuff that would get vaporized
[21:01:34] <XXCoder> im not talking about destroying
[21:01:45] <XXCoder> im talking about area being radioactive for thousands of years
[21:01:48] <tiwake> you talking about fallout
[21:01:56] <tiwake> and no, that won't be an issue
[21:02:46] <XXCoder> i may be missing something but nuclear bomb would spray radioactive atoms all over area
[21:02:51] <XXCoder> how isnt that an issue
[21:03:23] <tiwake> it won't though, not really
[21:08:33] <tiwake> XXCoder: have you read about how cleanup is done for nuclear power plant melt-down stuff?
[21:08:43] <XXCoder> no
[21:08:48] <tiwake> XXCoder:
http://imgur.com/a/TwY6q
[21:08:52] <XXCoder> not in depth anyway
[21:09:00] <tiwake> probably one of the biggest ones
[21:09:08] <tiwake> leave it to russia
[21:12:41] <tiwake> XXCoder: the point is there is no fallout from atomic bombs detonated in the atmosphere... there is lots of fallout if the atomic bomb fluffs up some earth
[21:13:07] <tiwake> (or in space, obviously)
[21:15:46] <SpeedEvil> tiwake: err - no
[21:16:02] <XXCoder> yeah radioactivity dont disappear.
[21:16:03] <SpeedEvil> There is less in the atmosphere, it's still quite significant.
[21:16:23] <SpeedEvil> The bomb materials are mostly not destroyed in the explosion, but vapourised
[21:16:45] <SpeedEvil> and significant amounts of atmospheric gasses are made radioactive or transformed
[21:19:30] <tiwake> SpeedEvil: not really... its there but not really worth mentioning... its like flushing chlorine down the drain... it technically hurts the septic system's ability to digest waste, but its really not worth mentioning.
[21:22:45] <tiwake> XXCoder: honestly, the orion project would have been built if the atomic age did not start off with nuking japan... media makes things a bigger deal than they actually are... but you already knew this
[21:23:20] <XXCoder> well theres few right spots to launch em
[21:23:26] <XXCoder> like middle of desert
[21:23:33] <XXCoder> control region of fallout
[21:23:59] <SpeedEvil> XXCoder: It's vapourised, and goes worldwide - or is gaseous to a large degree
[21:24:08] <tiwake> XXCoder: there were alternate methods for starting off suggested
[21:24:21] <SpeedEvil> Also - SpaceXs recent rocket purports to have a ~$13/kg cost to orbit
[21:24:22] <XXCoder> "But the main unsolved problem for a launch from the surface of the Earth was thought to be nuclear fallout. Freeman Dyson, group leader on the project, estimated back in the 1960s that with conventional nuclear weapons each launch would statistically cause on average between 0.1 and 1 fatal cancers from the fallout.[29] That estimate is based on no threshold model assumptions, a method often used in estimates of statistical deaths f
[21:24:22] <XXCoder> rom other industrial activities."
[21:25:18] <tiwake> XXCoder: also note: "Danger to human life was not a reason given for shelving the project."
[21:25:40] <XXCoder> indeed
[21:25:43] <tiwake> cause there really isnt much danger involved
[21:27:08] <SpeedEvil> The above price pretty much prices nuclear launchers out of the market
[21:27:27] <tiwake> XXCoder: one of the alternate methods was using the SaturnV to get parts out in space, assembling orion, and going from there with the nukes
[21:27:59] <XXCoder> that might work though it would be very heavy launching
[21:28:11] <tiwake> could still be done, and cheaper if SpaceX does it
[21:28:26] <tiwake> I doubt they could legally though
[21:28:39] <tiwake> "screw it, do it anyway" if I had that much money
[21:29:01] <tiwake> russia might get mad, so what, they are mad all the time anyway
[21:29:25] <XXCoder> mad all time I suppose but war level mad...
[21:29:45] <XXCoder> expecially since they recently made withdraw from plutoium treaty
[21:30:12] <tiwake> they complain about stuff... like most people do
[21:30:55] <SpeedEvil> If you can get a thousand tons to orbit with 100 bombs, that sets the required price of the bomb at $200K or so, if compared with the SpaceX rocket.
[21:31:40] <SpeedEvil> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fission-fragment_rocket#Dusty_Plasma is also a better match for solar system propulsion.
[21:32:06] <tiwake> SpeedEvil: that was one of the main things the Orion Project worked on... getting cheap atomic bombs and reliable for the craft
[21:32:14] <XXCoder> SpeedEvil: it would be good if you need to lift something VERY heavy to space
[21:32:20] <XXCoder> one you cant split up
[21:33:00] <tiwake> XXCoder: how do you think a space elevator would be done?
[21:33:08] <tiwake> s/done/built/
[21:33:28] <XXCoder> still have yet to make material strong enough
[21:33:45] <tiwake> it exists
[21:34:02] <tiwake> the issue everyone talks about is light enough, not strong enough
[21:36:59] <SpeedEvil> The above does 450 tons of cargo to mars.
[21:37:06] <XXCoder> in this case it is relationship of lightness and strongness that matters
[21:37:06] <XXCoder> if its too heavy it breaks therefore its not strong enough
[21:37:06] <XXCoder> unobtainable mnaterial would weight zero and strong enough to carry entire cargo module to space
[21:37:07] <XXCoder> .
[21:37:08] <XXCoder> .
[21:37:08] <XXCoder> am I still connected?
[21:37:08] <SpeedEvil> I fail to see much need for more.
[21:37:09] <XXCoder> finally
[21:40:34] <tiwake> XXCoder: in my engineering class the teacher talked about a cable that... I think some company in canada designed and built from money by nasa... but never left the ground cause nothing could lift it
[21:41:12] <tiwake> not finding information on it, but I do trust his information
[21:42:14] <tiwake> maybe not built, but at least designed... hmm
[21:42:30] <SpeedEvil> Space elevator cannot yet be made. It requires ~40GPa at unit density. And we're not quite there yet.
[21:42:45] <SpeedEvil> For surface to GEO
[22:34:11] <XXCoder> tiwake: was it you who linked to nuclear city at russia?
[22:34:46] <tiwake> XXCoder: yeah
[22:34:52] <Cromaglious_> hmmm I'm wondering if a 270ozin stepper NEMA23 will help me on the 3040 or just twist shit into pieces
[22:34:59] <tiwake> I'm also drainking a long island iced tea
[22:35:00] <tiwake> so good
[22:35:13] <XXCoder> thanks, interesting pics andread so far.
[22:35:23] <XXCoder> sure I knew bunch about it, but nice to see pics too
[22:35:34] <tiwake> XXCoder: yeah, its pretty fantastic
[22:35:38] <Cromaglious_> tea... time for a Dharjilling
[22:36:43] <XXCoder> on load refuel mchine. interesting
[22:42:01] <XXCoder> "1,000µR/s - 3.6 roentgens-per-hour. Compared to normal levels this was high, but not immediately life threatening. Bryukhanov and Dyatlov assumed this was an accurate measurement, despite knowing it was the maximum measurement the device could display. In reality, radiation levels were as high as 8,000,000µR/s"
[22:42:04] <XXCoder> bad assumation
[22:42:43] <XXCoder> that is why you should have ERROR display for too high
[22:43:53] <XXCoder> or maybe TOOHIGH
[22:48:23] <tiwake> PEGASI HIGH - DONT DIE
[22:48:41] <XXCoder> "YOU ARE WALKING DEAD"
[22:49:17] <XXCoder> russia used remote str robots they planned to use on moon to help clean up
[22:49:18] <XXCoder> wow
[22:49:28] <tiwake> yeah
[22:49:38] <tiwake> it was pretty horrible... lol
[22:50:02] <tiwake> russia is really good at building amazing things... and screwing everything up
[22:50:04] <XXCoder> imange what world would be like if that guy didnt fuck up
[22:50:52] <XXCoder> bio-robots
[22:59:13] <XXCoder> https://i.imgur.com/41Uvzw3.jpg wow
[23:00:39] <Jymmm> XXCoder: ???
[23:00:58] <XXCoder> tiwake linked me
https://imgur.com/a/TwY6q
[23:01:05] <XXCoder> been reading. interesting read
[23:01:07] <tiwake> because I'm awesome
[23:01:18] <tiwake> ...but nobody knows this
[23:01:28] <tiwake> other than XXCoder maybe
[23:07:18] <andypugh> Launch Vehicle Engine:
http://www.reactionengines.co.uk/sabre.html
[23:10:37] <andypugh> SABRE really does sound promising.
[23:13:22] <XXCoder> hmm yea
[23:13:31] <XXCoder> geez
[23:13:38] <XXCoder> someone made a pokemon ball flask
[23:13:46] <XXCoder> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1804713
[23:28:59] <Erant> Well this looks like a not-too-bad deal:
http://www.automation-overstock.com/proddetail.asp?prod=W1003WF%2D24P%2DC3Z4
[23:29:42] <Erant> I have been unable to stop looking for leadscrews and ballscrews, despite there being better things for me to work on.
[23:30:22] <XXCoder> just grab chinese ones for now
[23:30:26] <XXCoder> if thopse work its fine
[23:32:33] <Erant> XXCoder: All the Chinese ones are 16mm
[23:32:38] <Erant> I need 10-12
[23:32:46] <XXCoder> cant fit bigger?>
[23:34:25] <Erant> Nope.
[23:34:41] <XXCoder> hmm too bad. well good luck finding decent deal
[23:35:48] <Erant> Plus, I want a 1-2mm pitch, anything much wider and I have to gear my servos.
[23:36:23] <XXCoder> too bad dont have lathe or can make your own
[23:38:23] <Erant> I have a lathe. Not extremely confident in my abilities to make a good leadscrew though ;)
[23:39:54] <XXCoder> lol ok
[23:40:43] <XXCoder> http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2007-03-15 heh
[23:55:44] <andypugh> Erant: Not what I would call a total bargain. Compare with:
http://www.zappautomation.co.uk/mechanical-products/ballscrews/c5-ballscrews/miniature-ballscrews/r1002-c5-ballscrew-4715.html
[23:56:16] <andypugh> I am not sure the web site is working properly, but I think that is per 100mm
[23:57:09] <andypugh> For the bigger ones you can chjoose a length:
[23:57:10] <andypugh> http://www.zappautomation.co.uk/mechanical-products/ballscrews/c5-ballscrews/14-20mm-diameter-ballscrews/r1402-c5-ballscrew-4711.html
[23:57:31] <andypugh> Not ground. But do you care?
[23:57:44] <XXCoder> pretty cheap, that.
[23:58:07] <XXCoder> I guess it would need nut and he can use his lathe to add ends for coupler and stuff
[23:58:17] <Erant> andypugh: I've seen Zapp. I'm confused as to why there's not a place like that in the US
[23:58:35] <andypugh> Surely there must be?
[23:58:47] <Erant> I'm trying ;)
[23:59:08] <andypugh> It’s not like the UK is a world centre of,well, anything really. Except perhaps rubish opo music
[23:59:15] <andypugh> (pop,that is)
[23:59:30] <Jymmm> lol
[23:59:38] <eeriegeek> and GMT
[23:59:44] <Erant> McMaster doesn't say what grade their screws are, and their nuts are $$$
[23:59:56] <XXCoder> nuts are nuts on price eh
