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[00:01:17] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-50Watt-Q-SWITCHED-INDUSTRIAL-FIBER-LASER-MARKING-DEEP-ENGRAVING-SYSTEM-/301953708768
[00:10:38] <kyle___> hello
[00:10:53] <kyle___> so i'm thinking of adding a Z table to my laser cutter
[00:11:25] <kyle___> should i do a parallelogram construction? or mount it on lead screws?
[00:13:13] <kyle___> with a parallelogram i could save a lot of space, but i'm limited on travel and i need to somehow account for the fact that the resulting height will be the sine of the angle of the driven leg
[01:23:14] <archivist> kyle___, Watt parallel motion?
[02:49:03] <kyle___> no, archivist, more like a jointer infeed table
[02:49:23] <kyle___> except it need not be coupled directly horizontally but can slide so it moves only up and down
[03:06:18] <Deejay> moin
[04:20:54] <nikre> what is the proper way to find out the amount of backlash on a threaded rod axis?
[04:22:23] <sync> put an indicator in line with the axis and push the axis by hand or move it until you see the carriage move
[04:24:16] <archivist> step one direction to some value on indicator, count/ measure distance(DRO) to get back to that value
[04:27:13] <archivist> you can step & measure in both directions for more detail
[04:28:48] <archivist> I was looking for screw accuracy here not backlash
http://www.archivist.info/cnc/screw_error/
[04:50:05] <XXCoder> JT-Shop: has one of what?
[05:38:45] <pink_vampire> hi
[05:39:06] <XXCoder> hey
[05:43:01] <Deejay> hi
[05:49:55] <jthornton> morning
[06:02:14] <jthornton> 50 pages of photos to build the Y axis lol
[06:02:48] <XXCoder> LOL
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:484736
[06:03:01] <XXCoder> dare I make that? ;)
[06:03:35] <jthornton> a lathe to cut foam?
[06:03:49] <XXCoder> its probably rigid enough for wood
[06:03:51] <XXCoder> barely.
[06:04:05] <jthornton> but he didn't make a chuck
[06:04:16] <XXCoder> yeah
[06:04:45] <jthornton> better off saving your aluminum and making a gingerly
[06:04:46] <_methods> chucks are for n00bs
[06:05:22] <XXCoder> heyy now this is interesting
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1024834
[06:05:30] <XXCoder> drill resharper
[06:05:55] <_methods> yeah that won't melt
[06:06:07] <XXCoder> if it melts you killed temper anyway
[06:07:14] <XXCoder> apparently need relief done after that
[06:08:18] <_methods> i don't think that little cut off wheel would do much in the way of grinding begin with
[06:20:05] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/files/3-D%20Printing/ChinLee-Prusa-i3/
[06:21:21] <XXCoder> yours is exactly same pdf as mine
[06:22:12] <jthornton> bunch of backwards arrows and keep align
[06:22:39] <jthornton> how not to install limit swiches lol
[06:25:27] <jthornton> are your brackets plastic? they look like metal in the photo
[06:25:42] <XXCoder> metal
[06:25:53] <XXCoder> shitty cast metal but metal
[06:26:04] <XXCoder> its not even milled anywhere.
[06:28:40] <jthornton> the Z axis looks a bit weak with no thrust bearing
[06:30:41] <Tom_L> with those directions you should have it going by noon
[06:30:58] <jthornton> lol with a little adjusting I'm sure
[06:31:06] <archivist> and broken a few minutes later
[06:31:22] <XXCoder> and lot more adjusting
[06:39:21] <jthornton> for the price if you can start making parts you can't beat that
[06:41:11] <jthornton> XXCoder: do you have to connect to a windows computer like the user manual suggests?
[06:41:30] <XXCoder> I dont use windows
[06:41:41] <XXCoder> just need host program, I use repitor for now
[06:41:51] <jthornton> ok
[06:41:58] <XXCoder> I need to get pronterface to work
[06:56:09] <jthornton> does it not install?
[06:56:41] <XXCoder> it works but dont commucate with printer
[06:56:52] <XXCoder> probabkly due to baud setting, i found it, but havent tested it
[06:57:02] <XXCoder> pronterface dont seem to save settings
[06:57:13] <jthornton> that's odd
[06:57:34] <XXCoder> slic3r dont display how print takes :(
[07:05:58] <jthornton> repetier sure does crash and burn a lot
[07:06:38] <XXCoder> it did so only twice here, one during print (I think I just closed not crash)
[07:11:57] <CaptHindsight> _methods: oh stop it with the facts and science already
[07:15:30] <jthornton> http://reprap.org/wiki/Printrun
[07:16:19] <CaptHindsight> jthornton: well Linuxcnc is way to overbuilt and bloated that is why they had to write marlin, pronterface, repetier etc
[07:16:26] <jthornton> Connection with printer failed
[07:18:56] <CaptHindsight> are you sure you have the correct serial port in the settings?
[07:19:16] <jthornton> only one shows up so I assume it is correct
[07:19:48] <XXCoder> whats you using, repitor?
[07:20:02] <jthornton> ponterface at the moment
[07:20:10] <XXCoder> look at log error
[07:20:18] <XXCoder> its probably baud rate. should be 250000
[07:20:53] <CaptHindsight> what do they suggest for default settings?
[07:21:06] <XXCoder> he got same printer as I did
[07:22:10] <CaptHindsight> LOL, only kidding. They don't have useful comments in the source of have default settings that are even close to whats expected
[07:22:37] <XXCoder> indeed
[07:22:48] <XXCoder> I had to figure lot things to get everything working
[07:22:53] <XXCoder> bad parts didnt help.
[07:23:01] <XXCoder> jthor didnt complain so I guess he got lucky
[07:23:11] <CaptHindsight> and nobody ever fixes this
[07:23:34] <jthornton> I'm just messing with my ramps board that I already had
[07:24:13] <XXCoder> oh you didnt buy that kit?
[07:24:24] <jthornton> yes, but it is not here yet
[07:24:33] <XXCoder> ah lol ok
[07:24:42] <jthornton> I already had a ramps board, extruder and some other parts
[07:24:47] <XXCoder> btw I designed a part for this model 3d printer
[07:24:58] <jthornton> cool, what part
[07:25:01] <XXCoder> lets see if it works ... once I have time to print it.
[07:25:09] <jthornton> ok
[07:25:14] <XXCoder> its a brace to align 2020 90 degree
[07:25:23] <XXCoder> fairly heavy duty
[07:25:37] <XXCoder> (3d printer kind of heavy duty)
[07:27:04] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: what material is used?
[07:27:07] <jthornton> http://www.mcmaster.com/#5537t471/=14ckurh
[07:27:34] <jthornton> extrude those and put some 2020 to them
[07:27:46] <XXCoder> im not sure yet, I plan to learn how to use petg so probably that
[07:28:07] <XXCoder> jthornton: my machine already has that
[07:28:20] <XXCoder> problem is it isnt very precise (you will see)
[07:28:27] <jthornton> got a photo of your machine?
[07:28:34] <XXCoder> so its just to position it and make it stronger
[07:33:12] <XXCoder> jthornton: yeah but gonna go bed now
[07:33:24] <XXCoder> will upload later, just remind me heh
[07:34:07] <jthornton> ok
[09:22:26] <MacGalempsy> :)
[09:49:35] <MacGalempsy_> anyone up and cuttingtoday?
[09:49:39] <Erant> Opinions on 3 flute vs. 2 flute for small diameter (0.125") end mills in 6061? My spindle tops out at 5k, so I figure the 3 flute would allow for higher feed rates, and have more material in the core. But then I may be worried about chip evacuation...
[09:49:46] <gregcnc> macgalempsy did you find out if the power company will give you 3 phase?
[09:49:47] <Erant> Not yet.
[09:49:57] <MacGalempsy_> gregcnc: they have not called me back yet
[09:50:42] <MacGalempsy_> it is kind of disappointing.
[09:50:46] <gregcnc> I use 3 flutes, but I vacuum chips
[09:51:27] <MacGalempsy_> Erant: from my recollection, most people in here have recommended 2 flute.
[09:51:45] <gregcnc> from what I've read about it, sometimes they don't even bother, or the cost is ridiculous
[09:52:04] <MacGalempsy_> yesterday I went by fastenal to look for a coupler and they had 1/8 and 1/4 2 flute carbide endmills on clearance
[09:52:19] <MacGalempsy_> $3 and $8 respectively
[09:52:32] <Erant> gregcnc: I guess it depends on how far away the junction box is.
[09:52:32] <MacGalempsy_> too bad they only had 3 of each
[09:52:45] <Erant> MacGalempsy_: Oh, that's a good deal. Damn.
[09:52:51] <gregcnc> depends if they want to supply 3p to a residential address or not
[09:53:20] <sync> I wonder why they wouldn't
[09:53:23] <MacGalempsy_> yeah. the "scheduler" is supposed to call me. however, there is a shop around the corner that is for rent (old auto shop)
[09:53:39] <gregcnc> they just don't in the US
[09:53:50] <MacGalempsy_> I made the call last thursday or friday, so it could be a backlog of activity
[09:53:56] <Erant> Though it's getting slightly more common because of electric vehicles.
[09:54:03] <Erant> So you may be in luck there.
[09:54:10] <gregcnc> ?
[09:54:17] <MacGalempsy_> there are 3 Boy 15s on ebay right now
[09:54:25] <Erant> Charging electric vehicles off a regular single phase 110V line is a bitch.
[09:54:40] <MacGalempsy_> because you need a converter?
[09:54:52] <Erant> You can pull, what, 1.5kW off a single circuit? 3kW if you have a 30A breaker?
[09:55:06] <Erant> The Tesla has an ~80kW battery.
[09:55:22] <MacGalempsy_> for a 50hp conversion from 1p to 3 ph is 71a for the idler motor
[09:55:23] <gregcnc> yeah but you can easily get 12kW from single phase 50A 240V
[09:56:02] <MacGalempsy_> even stopped by the recyclers looking for transformers, they didnt have any
[09:56:02] <Erant> Which I don't have either :/
[09:56:27] <sync> which still is a joke gregcnc
[09:56:43] <gregcnc> I thought most chargers were for 50A 240V
[09:57:17] <MacGalempsy_> I wonder how many tesla owners have to turn off the hot tub to charge their car?
[09:57:49] <MacGalempsy_> going to get coffee, be back in a bit.
[09:58:11] <gregcnc> mac I'm sure you cen get by with much less that american rotary recommended
[09:59:25] <sync> I mean, my flat is fused for over 75kW
[10:00:39] <MacGalempsy> i keep thinking so.
[10:01:15] <gregcnc> did you look at digital converters?
[10:01:23] <MacGalempsy> maybe call a few more rotary vendors
[10:01:29] <Erant> The heaviest circuit I have is 110V 30A :( I can't run shit.
[10:01:35] <gregcnc> they will al be the same
[10:01:58] <MacGalempsy> just installed 30a 120v last week
[10:02:11] <gregcnc> some have lower ratings on the converter but it's actually the same size
[10:02:28] <Erant> (It's why I'm having such a hard time trying to find a good mister setup. I can't run a compressor, plus the servos, plus the mill, plus the PC off a single circuit)
[10:03:02] <Erant> And for some reason most misters won't run off like those shitty 1/3HP compressor. Not enough flow.
[10:03:09] <Erant> </rant>
[10:03:16] <sync> then run them on another circuit
[10:03:27] <Erant> I would, if I had one nearby ;)
[10:04:04] <Erant> I'm 99% sure the entire garage and most of my bottom floor is the same circuit.
[10:04:26] <gregcnc> that would be unusual
[10:08:12] <enleth> Erant: there's few thins simpler than checking it
[10:08:22] <enleth> you could do that in the time it took you to write about it here
[10:08:29] <enleth> *things
[10:08:50] <gregcnc> Erant are you the one who has to call the landlord to reset the breaker?
[10:10:22] <Erant> gregcnc: Nah, I own my place.
[10:10:32] <gregcnc> then rewire it
[10:10:46] <enleth> and you don't know the utility schematics?
[10:11:16] <Erant> It's a shared garage space, there's 4 units in the building.
[10:11:23] <gregcnc> they don't typically give you a copy when you buy
[10:11:56] <Erant> Nope. And of course they wrote everything down in the breaker box.
[10:12:00] <Erant> Oh wait no they didn't.
[10:12:02] <Erant> ...
[10:12:29] <Erant> enleth: But yes, I should just go check.
[10:12:33] <enleth> well, flip the breakers and see what turns off
[10:12:49] <enleth> a bunch of desk lamps plugged here and there helps
[10:13:10] <gregcnc> if garage is shared borrow some from your neighbor
[10:13:13] <enleth> or screw it and run a new circuit anyway
[10:13:16] <enleth> or that, too
[10:14:16] <Erant> It's a 'common' circuit. The entire building pays for that electricity (though I use probably 75% of it ;) )
[10:14:53] <Erant> Anyway, I'll actually go make sure that I'm not talking out of my ass. I'm fairly sure I checked this a year and a half ago, but I should re-check.
[10:15:04] <Erant> There's multiple outlets, so who knows, maybe they are seperate breakers.
[10:15:42] <gregcnc> problem may not be
[10:15:43] <Erant> Anyway, time to go interview some people. 's my favorite thing. *cough*
[10:16:31] <enleth> Erant: run another one directly from your own unit
[10:16:44] <gregcnc> https://www.instagram.com/p/BKs9cBHAEjp/
[10:17:42] <Erant> gregcnc: wtf would you even do with that?
[10:17:53] <gregcnc> read the comments, I didn't know either
[10:18:15] <Erant> ... Christmas lights?
[10:19:04] <gregcnc> I guess in the ghetto when your power gets cut. you plug your house into the neighbor's house
[10:28:46] <jesseg> lol
[10:44:57] <MacGalempsy> gregcnc: you think a digital transformer would be stable enough for an injection machine?
[10:46:01] <gregcnc> They spec 1% voltage balance
[10:46:52] <gregcnc> they provide much cleaner power than rotary, and in some cases even cleaner than utility 3 phase
[10:47:00] <archivist> what is the short term overload though
[10:47:47] <gregcnc> http://www.phaseperfect.com/p/t/specifications
[10:49:27] <MacGalempsy> 8hp is only $125
[10:49:34] <archivist> what a useless unreadable page, why do "modern" websites produce such poor js
[10:50:01] <gregcnc> archivist are you browsing web on a monochrome screen?
[10:50:14] <archivist> no firefox
[10:50:34] <gregcnc> http://phasetechnologies.com/downloads/products/phase-perfect/pt330specs.pdf
[10:50:34] <archivist> but I use an older one to check compatibility
[10:51:00] <gregcnc> mac what's 8HP?
[10:52:32] <MacGalempsy> just meaning more affordable
[10:52:57] <gregcnc> you found a 8HP converter for 125$?
[10:54:32] <MacGalempsy_> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Static-Phase-Converter-Dual-Range-3-8-HP-American-Rotary-DSS-3-8D-/391233532210?hash=item5b1755f132:g:JUoAAOSwKIpV-Zo6
[10:54:45] <gregcnc> not static phase
[10:57:16] <MacGalempsy_> those phase perfect are not cheap
[10:57:20] <gregcnc> phase perfect are not cheap
[10:57:24] <MacGalempsy_> 40hp - $11k USD
[10:57:39] <gregcnc> but you have an 8.5kW machine. that's probably all you need
[10:57:51] <sync> I wonder why they are rated in hp
[10:58:05] <gregcnc> bc everything is rated in HP here
[10:58:43] <archivist> ---->single loads
[10:58:51] <sync> what would they mean by that, the mechanical power a motor connected to it could support or are they just changing kw to hp
[10:58:53] <gregcnc> what is single load?
[10:59:13] <archivist> one motor, a balanced load
[10:59:25] <archivist> not a heater and a motor probably
[11:01:47] <gregcnc> the real load on the circuit needs to be verified. If the name plate specs 41A... it shouldn't let the machine run both at the same time?
[11:02:05] <MacGalempsy_> gregcnc: 3 phase power equation V*A*pf*1.732/1000
[11:02:15] <MacGalempsy_> so its a little more than 8.5, more like ~12
[11:02:19] <MacGalempsy_> still thought
[11:02:20] <gregcnc> NO
[11:02:42] <gregcnc> sorry
[11:04:06] <gregcnc> 1.73 converts to single phase current
[11:04:33] <jthornton> my hot glue machine has shipped
[11:04:50] <MacGalempsy_> exciting!
[11:05:21] <MacGalempsy_> anyone by upland CA?
[11:06:01] <jthornton> seeing how slic3r outputs LinuxCNC G code after I get my fingers burnt a few times you can guess what I'm building
[11:06:39] <MacGalempsy_> building grounds to take an ER visit?
[11:07:41] <MacGalempsy_> http://www.ebay.com/sch/dvanvoorhis88/m.html?item=331982694213&hash=item4d4bb5e745%3Ag%3Ab9MAAOSwPCVX6UcU&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
[11:08:05] <MacGalempsy_> I wonder if all three will make one working machine?
[11:10:32] <gregcnc> 41A x 208V(3phase) = 8.5kW / 240V = 35.5A *1.73 = 62A @ 240V single phase + transformer loss
[11:14:29] <dioz> where did you get the 1.73 ?
[11:14:35] <dioz> oh nvm
[11:19:06] <MacGalempsy__> gregcnc: what do you think about the small shot piston drive injection machines?
[11:19:17] <gregcnc> If you have a rotary there is easily another 10% on top of that so the 71A full load output is correct. You need 50HP RPC to keep voltages reasonably balanced under load.
[11:19:27] <gregcnc> sorry know nothing about injection
[11:21:25] <MacGalempsy__> that is exactly what they told me 50hp
[11:22:22] <gregcnc> the digital needs only the ~8.5kW, not the 50HP unit
[11:23:04] <CaptHindsight> jthornton: fed up with the "quality" of the slicer?
[11:25:46] <gregcnc> if power company will give you 3 phase for less than the cost of either converter that's great, but you'll also be paying commercial rates
[11:28:21] <jthornton> CaptHindsight: have not printed anything yet, why do you ask?
[11:34:22] <gregcnc> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hindtechnology/masso-the-all-in-one-cnc-controller?
[11:37:48] <jthornton> one tiny bit breaks and your out $600...
[11:44:19] * skunkworks hugs linuxcnc
[11:45:35] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: they don't mention the micro they are using
[11:46:13] <CaptHindsight> http://www.hindtechnology.com/ couldn't find it here either
[11:46:24] <CaptHindsight> no mention of open source either
[11:46:27] <gregcnc> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/82986351/lightning-double-exposure-uv-dlp-3d-printer?
[11:48:51] <CaptHindsight> faster than FDM but not very useful if it only works with a limited range of resins
[11:49:39] <gregcnc> because UV?
[11:50:32] <CaptHindsight> mostly the software, also the choice of vat materials
[11:51:27] <CaptHindsight> rather than design a SLA/DLP printer to work with the widest variety of resins they design it to work with a very narrow range of resins
[11:51:29] <gregcnc> ah, you don't want the vat dissolving
[11:52:26] <CaptHindsight> they seem to be interested in making yet another printer that just makes a print
[11:52:29] <FloppyDisk525> razors and blades... printers and ink... "give-away" the printer and have the cust buy your resin...
[11:53:07] <CaptHindsight> yeah, people keep falling for it
[11:53:21] <gregcnc> those olo printer are due to ship soon.
[11:54:44] <FloppyDisk525> I do like the idea of an agnostic resin printer.
[11:55:06] <FloppyDisk525> And, the mechanics aren't very complicated in one of those printers, more the UV part of it (dunno much about that part)
[11:55:09] <CaptHindsight> it's like offering a drill with a chuck that only holds 1/4" bits
[11:55:11] <gregcnc> i thought kickstart would be more fun this morning, but nothing appeared so ridiculous to be worth clicking
[11:55:16] <FloppyDisk525> :-) yup.
[11:55:27] <MacGalempsy_> good analogy
[11:55:46] <gregcnc> I can sell you a number set with 1/4" shank
[11:55:47] <CaptHindsight> "hey, it makes holes"
[11:56:36] <CaptHindsight> not sure what the double exposures gimmick is
[11:56:47] <gregcnc> i couldn't figure it out eiether
[11:56:55] <CaptHindsight> there are a dozen SLA/DLP printers already on the market
[11:57:02] <CaptHindsight> some more open than others
[11:58:00] <CaptHindsight> nearly every owner of the Form1.2 is now regretting being stuck with their closed software/firmware printer
[11:58:46] <CaptHindsight> the OLO is a novelty toy
[11:58:56] <MacGalempsy_> I have a feeling that once the bigger companies get into resin printers, you will see laws coming into effect to ban certain resins for environmental reasons
[11:59:06] <gregcnc> the youtube reviews might be fun
[12:00:27] <MacGalempsy_> and you will only be able to buy their resins in environmentally friendly, and proprietary cartridges
[12:01:04] <CaptHindsight> the Nobel1.0 uses RFID on their resin bottles
[12:04:26] <FloppyDisk525> How do the 'homemade' sla/dlp printers work w/ a light projector? I had followed some of that, but not in more than a year.
[12:04:30] <FloppyDisk525> man time flies...
[12:05:20] <CaptHindsight> http://us.xyzprinting.com/us_en/Product/Nobel-1.0
[12:05:20] <CaptHindsight> it's built amazing poorly
[12:05:20] <CaptHindsight> and operates at glacial rates, I think FDM might be faster
[12:07:10] <CaptHindsight> FloppyDisk525: I converted one to DLP
https://imagebin.ca/v/2wXMUfZfPtrU
[12:07:20] <FloppyDisk525> I heard/read that you did...
[12:07:29] <FloppyDisk525> or I should say, that you worked on one..
[12:08:07] <FloppyDisk525> Dumb question? Why get rid of the UV laser and go projector (uv light)?
[12:08:15] <FloppyDisk525> I don't know much about this.
[12:08:40] <CaptHindsight> a projector cure an entire plane at the same time vs scanning a laser
[12:08:48] <CaptHindsight> cure/cures
[12:09:08] <CaptHindsight> so using a projector is faster
[12:09:18] <FloppyDisk525> Nice.
[12:09:25] <FloppyDisk525> Saw this on a banggood ad this AM:
[12:09:25] <FloppyDisk525> http://www.banggood.com/Mini-M8S-II-Amlogic-S905X-Quad-Core-1GB-RAM-8GB-ROM-4K-Android-TV-Box-p-1089580.html
[12:09:49] <FloppyDisk525> no time to mess w/ it, but sure would be a nice little lcnc controller to a 7i92 or other etherent setup...
[12:09:57] <CaptHindsight> the old SLA printers use and only work with UV resins
[12:10:42] <FloppyDisk525> I've wanted to replace my old prusa i3 reprap w/ something 'newer', sla/dlp seemed better. but no time and frankly, don't use it enough anyway:-(
[12:14:02] <FloppyDisk525> I don't care about printing time, let it go over night... But, resolution and print area.
[12:15:19] <CaptHindsight> all the consumer DLP/SLA printers use a 405nm laser or count on the 400-420nm range that passes through the optics
[12:15:19] <CaptHindsight> removing the color wheel lets much more of it through
[12:15:19] <CaptHindsight> I have to finish the Linuxcnc setup for DLP/SLA
[12:15:23] <CaptHindsight> SLA with a galvo works
[12:20:15] <FloppyDisk525> I saw you working w/ the galvo - that's really cool..
[12:20:24] <FloppyDisk525> I was wondering, think something like this would work w/lcnc:
[12:20:24] <FloppyDisk525> http://www.banggood.com/Mini-M8S-II-Amlogic-S905X-Quad-Core-1GB-RAM-8GB-ROM-4K-Android-TV-Box-p-1089580.html
[12:20:50] <FloppyDisk525> Might be a bunch of futzing around... No real reason to try other than a low cost machine controller....
[12:29:33] <Guest36363> I can't upgrade linuxcnc 2.5 to 2.6 (or 2.7) on Ubuntu 10.04, error is "libboost-pithon1.40.0 is not instalable" amy help please ... thanks
[12:33:09] <CaptHindsight> FloppyDisk525: the problem is lack of source to build a kernel and accelerated graphics driver
[12:33:48] <CaptHindsight> FloppyDisk525: the Rpi3 has open source for kernel and GPU, it also works with LCNC
[12:34:17] <FloppyDisk525> I see - building the kernel is 'hard' or very difficult...
[12:34:49] <FloppyDisk525> I thought you mentioned that rpi3 was not an easy LCNC install?? as in, it's still being worked on
[12:35:15] <FloppyDisk525> I think of the machinekit, but isn't that more beaglebone..
[12:39:15] <CaptHindsight> it got easier
[12:39:15] <CaptHindsight> but kernel building can be a bit complicated
[12:39:15] <CaptHindsight> it's much easier if you have a working Kconfig
[12:39:15] <CaptHindsight> the SPI driver to connect Rpi3 to Mesa FPGA is also working
[12:39:15] <CaptHindsight> I hear it also works over ethernet to Mesa
[12:44:33] <CaptHindsight> FloppyDisk525: beaglebone black
[12:45:22] <nikre> i have 30deg 0.1mm tip bits for pcb milling. can i change the behaviour of the motion so that when the tip is about to dive into the copper, it slows down?
[12:45:56] <nikre> and gradually catches the original speed
[12:46:21] <MacGalempsy_> nikre: I think that comes in with the CAM settings of ramp-in
[12:46:44] <nikre> ty MacGalempsy_ , i'll read about it.
[12:46:50] <IchGucksLive> hi
[12:47:20] <IchGucksLive> hi JesusAlos wethere is so nice here
[12:47:53] <IchGucksLive> hi Loetmichel_
[13:32:32] <IchGucksLive> im off Gn8
[14:43:29] <MacGalempsy> zzzzzz
[14:46:52] <witnit> MacGalempsy: up for a game?
[14:46:57] <MacGalempsy> sure
[14:47:17] <MacGalempsy> my soldering iron just took a dump and was about to run up to lowes and get a new one
[14:47:46] <witnit> i have heated a probe up with a lighter before in a pinch :P
[14:48:17] <MacGalempsy_> shoot me a link in a msg. grabbinbg a beer
[14:50:32] <JT-Shop> it ain't 5 o'clock at your house lol
[14:57:25] <MacGalempsy> jthornton: time is just a construct
[15:00:29] <jthornton> lol
[15:07:59] <jthornton> Kansas City Beer
[15:08:33] * jthornton wonders how many Boulevard Wheat's it takes to elevate to a Wheet :)
[15:25:08] <pink_vampire|2> life?
[15:57:20] * JT-Shop calls it a day... damn bandsaw blades just got shipped, I ordered them last Wednesday!
[16:00:08] <Deejay_> oh yeah, then you might be lucky and get them in this year ;)
[16:01:27] <JT-Shop> normally they ship the next day...
[16:01:54] <Deejay_> i would laugh if the parcel gets lost ;)
[16:02:19] <JT-Shop> ups usually don't lose packages like the USPS does
[16:03:44] <Deejay_> hehe, here in germany, you get 'broken' parcels sometimes. they look if someone drove over the parcel with a forklift oder something like that
[16:04:50] <Deejay_> hope this will not happen to your goods ;)
[16:07:42] <JT-Shop> me too
[16:12:13] <Deejay_> gn8
[16:14:19] <dioz> i am so fucking frustrated right now
[16:15:00] <dioz> so the gf and i got a house. it's all paid off. we agreed we were gonna do some renos. we started doing renos then her parents decided to give us their house. now she just wants me to "slap" everything back together
[16:15:10] <dioz> and i'm like "we can't just slap everything back together we need to fix this stuff right"
[16:15:22] <dioz> but she doesn't wanna "waste money" on the house. she just wants to get rid of it
[16:15:35] <dioz> i said "put it up for sale the way it is then" but she wants it listed with 2 bathrooms
[16:15:50] <dioz> the walls aren't square or level
[16:16:03] <dioz> the basement needs to be gutted and the heating/plumbing needs to be evaluated
[16:16:26] <roycroft> every dollar you invest in improving the house will gain you more than $1 in resale value
[16:16:36] <roycroft> so fix it right and sell for more
[16:16:43] <dioz> that is what i told her. she seems to have people telling her different
[16:16:51] <dioz> i do construction for a living
[16:16:53] <dioz> she doesn't believe me
[16:17:13] <roycroft> and she's still your gf because ... :)
[16:17:17] <dioz> i'm so frustrated
[16:17:49] <roycroft> this is actually one of the main reasons my last gf and i broke up
[16:17:57] <dioz> nothing is square. the floor isn't level. the walls aren't level. none of the existing walls are floated and it's causing the next level to pitch and squeek in places
[16:18:03] <roycroft> she claimed to have confidence in my abilities in my areas of expertise
[16:18:57] <roycroft> yet every single time, without exception, that she would ask me to do something for her that fell under those areas, she would get third-party "experts" to advise her, and she would demand that i prove that i know what i'm doing if my methods were any different than her "expert advisors"
[16:19:03] <roycroft> i finally got tired of it
[16:19:27] <roycroft> making things square isn't that a big a deal
[16:19:32] <roycroft> making the floors level is
[16:19:37] <roycroft> making sure the structure does not move is
[16:20:43] <roycroft> if your house is paid for, and the new one has been gifted to you, then your only ongoing expense with the current house would be taxes
[16:20:44] <dioz> oh yah. i could easily fix the fact the walls aren't square... but the existing walls weren't floated
[16:20:56] <roycroft> and minimal utilities to keep it from being damaged in the winter
[16:20:59] <dioz> so it's causing issues with the next level
[16:21:05] <roycroft> so why not take the time to fix it properly?
[16:21:23] <dioz> she doesn't take me through how she rationalizes things
[16:21:24] <roycroft> it's not like you have to sell it next week because you have two mortgages to pay
[16:21:32] <dioz> she just says we're doing it her way
[16:21:34] <roycroft> tell her you'll fix it
[16:21:35] <dioz> then i say "okay you do it"
[16:21:39] <dioz> and she gets mad at me
[16:21:41] <roycroft> and she never has to go back to it if she doesn't want to
[16:24:21] <dioz> don't even get me started
[16:24:24] <dioz> i'm so frustrated right now
[16:24:33] <dioz> i need to woosah
[16:51:18] <dioz> what's gonna happen is... we're gonna list the house and people are gonna bring in a home inspector
[16:51:31] <dioz> and everything the home inspector finds wrong they're gonna start hacking off our sale price
[16:51:39] <dioz> that is how it works when you sell a house
[16:52:14] <dioz> "well i'm gonna need to fix all this plumbing in a year or two" PRICE DROP
[16:52:32] <dioz> "i'm gonna need to pull all these basement walls out to prevent the upstairs from shifting more" PRICE DROP
[16:52:42] <dioz> "i'm gonna have to put in a new furnace" PRICE DROP
[16:54:01] <dioz> regardless if they actually even do it or not. they're gonna point it out and expect the price to be dropped because of it
[16:54:04] <dioz> THAT IS HOW IT WORKS
[16:54:10] <dioz> i need to woosah
[16:54:12] <dioz> i'm right livid
[16:54:28] <sync> just work on your house instead
[16:54:37] <malcom2073> Yeah, it's a buyers market right now, wouldnt' want to be a seller atm
[16:56:12] <dioz> we're going from a house that was built in the 50's to the 80's
[16:56:30] <dioz> and i know the moment we move into the newer house she's gonna want me to do windows
[16:56:50] <dioz> she's already been talking about how it would be nive to have bigger windows to let more of the outside in
[17:30:21] <witnit> dioz: possibly tell her to have these things quoted by a contractor of her choice and see how quickly she becomes "rational" in my limited experience with the female mind I realized there are only two ways to get them on the same page as you. Either lay down the law and do what you think is best and they come around in time or come up with a clever way to get them to think your way of doing things was their idea all along.
[17:33:02] <witnit> just a couple weeks ago the starter solenoid went out on my buddies wifes car, we both stood there and told her it was the starter. She calls autozone and they tell her to bring the battery in and they were certain that was the problem. Of course her father gets involved and claims autozone is right so we let them piss around with taking the battery out running it across town finding out it was perfectly fine and then bringing it back to the car.
[17:34:45] <witnit> I crawled under the car whacked the starter solenoid with a hammer car started, we drove up and replaced the starter. Its like this EVERYTIME with his old lady. absolutely irrational
[17:51:06] <JT-Shop> makes me feel real lucky
[17:56:36] <JT-Shop> I would have said well you better have it towed to a competent mechanic and have her fix it
[18:18:01] <MacGalempsy> alright
[18:18:21] <malcom2073> Is it?
[18:18:35] <MacGalempsy> you know it
[18:18:52] <MacGalempsy> what are you up to malcom2073
[18:19:28] <malcom2073> Not much, getting some work done. You?
[18:19:54] <MacGalempsy> just finished up soldering the connections on a lamp and electromagnetic vise
[18:20:05] <malcom2073> Oh nice, more toys for the mill eh?
[18:20:09] <MacGalempsy> about to play some BF4 and mess around on fusion360
[18:20:23] <MacGalempsy> those are on the EDM
[18:20:33] <MacGalempsy> that bloody vise has to be over 100lbs
[18:20:45] <malcom2073> Heh
[18:21:34] <MacGalempsy> what kind of work are you up to?
[18:22:05] <malcom2073> The paid kind unfortunatly, not the fun kind heh
[18:22:21] <MacGalempsy> oh, at the day job right now?
[18:22:48] <malcom2073> Yeah
[18:24:25] <MacGalempsy> what kind of stuff do you do there?
[18:24:47] <malcom2073> This is the second job, the oil company one
[18:24:50] <malcom2073> working on some software
[18:25:28] <MacGalempsy> ah, i see. is the industry picking up in your neck of the woods? I have heard a few good things this last week, but overall its still down around here
[18:28:37] <Duc_mobile> pcw_home: I have a few questions about the 7i92 card. I can ping the card at 10.10.10.10 but when I run "mesaflash --device 7i92 --addr 10.10.10.10 --readhmid" I get NO 7i92 board found
[18:35:00] <dioz> witnit: lol
[18:38:40] <Tom_L> witnit maybe you should whack her with the hammer too
[18:41:42] <dioz> hahaha
[18:41:56] <dioz> i'm calm now though
[18:42:12] <dioz> i'm trying to fix things in my brain. usually i'd get pissed and need a smoke
[18:42:23] <dioz> so i sat there in my rage and anger until it passed
[18:42:25] <dioz> and i feel better
[18:45:29] <malcom2073> MacGalempsy_: Sorry was afk, Nah it's still really slow
[18:45:37] <Cromaglious> i ordered 4 1/4 end mills they sent 4 6mm end mills basturds
[18:46:17] <Cromaglious> now to redo my gcode grrr
[18:46:25] <MacGalempsy_> malcom2073: do you work for an operator or service company?
[18:47:37] <pfred1> yeah metric tooling is polluting the stream
[18:47:53] <MacGalempsy_> what is mm?
[18:48:04] <pfred1> my router has a chinzy 6mm collet in it
[18:49:37] <malcom2073> MacGalempsy_: No clue, I assume operator? our company manages a bunch of wells for a group of investors
[18:49:51] <MacGalempsy_> operators usually drill
[18:51:17] <malcom2073> We hire in companies to come drill
[18:51:31] <Cromaglious_> the package says 1/4 4flutes straight x4
[18:56:52] <MacGalempsy_> so they are not 6.35mm but 6.00mm?
[19:01:30] <CaptHindsight> anyone seen machine skates with a thread on the top for a bolt?
[19:07:40] <Cromaglious> yep
[19:08:04] <MacGalempsy> damn cheap chinese tolerances! lol
[19:08:10] <CaptHindsight> http://rigging.com/dollies-and-skates/
[19:09:34] <pfred1> a lot of tooling coming out of China is metric
[19:09:51] <pfred1> it has made me think about getting a new collet set
[19:25:08] <CaptHindsight> https://youtu.be/Evv28LjpHnQ?t=39s handy robot for machine moving
[19:54:34] <FloppyDisk5_25> go metric!!
[19:56:33] <pfred1> I'd rather not
[20:00:23] <FloppyDisk5_25> I just don't like having 2 sets of sockets, wrenches, etc. All the metric screws, pilots, etc. make more sense than a 2-56etc..
[20:00:49] <FloppyDisk5_25> too bad jimmy carter didn't have his brother produce more beer and then it might have changed...
[20:03:13] <Duc_mobile> pcw_home: fixed the issue running wrong kernel i think
[20:05:04] <pfred1> FloppyDisk5_25 do they? I happen to prefer USS threads
[20:05:32] <pfred1> I had standard tools before metric hardware came here too
[20:06:02] <pfred1> so it is the metric system that is the johnny come lately interloper
[20:06:11] <FloppyDisk5_25> just today I had to look up the dia of an 8-32... But, a metric thread is the dia...
[20:06:39] <pfred1> major, or minor?
[20:06:42] <FloppyDisk5_25> anyway, don't want to get into a metric/sae discussion, it won't change any time soon.
[20:06:48] <FloppyDisk5_25> major.
[20:07:20] <pfred1> I have a chart next to my mill with all of the dimensions so it is not a big deal for me to look it up
[20:07:29] <roycroft> the front panel and the chassis are free
[20:07:36] <roycroft> it was a pita to disassemble that thing
[20:07:50] <roycroft> ack, mischan
[20:08:06] <gregcnc> did someone here post a link to the show Timeless this summer? I swear I watched a failed pilot for the show on youtube. suppposed to start on tv this week?
[21:15:57] <pink_vampire|2> hi
[21:16:00] <pink_vampire|2> XXCoder: ?
[21:21:54] <pink_vampire|2> any life?
[23:19:32] <Erant> Crap. Missed the Kennametal inserts.
[23:20:07] <Erant> Guess $15 for 10 new inserts was too good to be true after all (though I think they sold for like $25 in the end, still a steal)