#linuxcnc | Logs for 2016-08-16

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[00:20:53] <Ralith_> heh
[01:11:21] <Contract_Pilot> Evening
[02:26:03] <Deejay> moin
[02:45:14] <Contract_Pilot> Fun times wiring plan for Hitachi WJ200
[03:11:22] <plpower> morning cool milling ahead in germany
[03:11:30] <plpower> CaptHindsight: ?
[05:48:51] <jthornton> Contract_Pilot: you got your estop sorted out?
[06:08:24] <Tom_itx> weather map shows jt covered in pretty colors again to day
[06:09:40] <Tom_itx> morning...
[06:15:56] <jthornton> lol
[06:59:46] <jthornton> I figure it will quit raining one day or start snowing...
[07:08:15] <skunkworks> both!
[07:08:58] <gregcnc> skunkworks are you showing mach how threading is done?
[07:09:19] <skunkworks> gregcnc, wow - I just posted that
[07:09:54] <gregcnc> i watched it last night
[07:10:04] <skunkworks> oh
[07:10:05] <skunkworks> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mach1mach2cnc/conversations/messages/151473
[07:11:22] <skunkworks> Hannu showed up again saying that threading can only be done with high count encoders
[07:12:52] <archivist> to what spec!
[07:13:31] <skunkworks> he talks about threading to sub-micron or sum such. but never has shown any of his conversions
[07:14:54] <archivist> tripped over his network cable again
[07:16:52] <skunkworks> heh - virus software wanted a re-boot - so I postponed it and then clicked re-boot.
[07:19:14] <archivist> skunkworks, I can do thread measuring to gnats cock, mebe one day measure a thread I made on the cnc
[07:20:07] <skunkworks> :)
[07:20:25] <archivist> I am limited to 1" of thread though http://www.archivist.info/cnc/screw_error/lamp_screw.php
[07:20:32] <gregcnc> Skunkworks would have been more fun with an ancient version of EMC2
[07:20:44] <archivist> I should change the title of that page
[07:21:16] <skunkworks> it actually is 2.6.something
[07:21:25] <archivist> the interpolation was a bit buggy and a fix was done when I got mine running
[07:21:27] <skunkworks> I haven't gotten around to changing it
[07:21:46] <archivist> way back in 2.3-2.4 time
[07:21:48] <skunkworks> I remember that
[07:22:10] <skunkworks> it would oscillate? iirc
[07:22:46] <archivist> sort of oscillation/ringing
[07:27:09] <gregcnc> skunkworks hannu is part of Haas Spain? same guy?
[07:27:32] <skunkworks> I don't think so
[07:30:07] <archivist> what some miss is the flywheel effect averaging out the thread "fixing" any resolution problem
[08:05:02] <JT-Shop> so far 20 1/2" rain in the last three days
[08:05:10] <skunkworks> wow
[08:05:36] <Deejay> you measure rain in inch? ;)
[08:05:38] <gonzo_> start building your ark
[08:06:05] <archivist> next project a dam, lake and water powered generating station
[08:15:44] <JT-Shop> most rain gauges got over filled the first two days, my bucket rain gauge holds 10"
[08:16:26] <Deejay> how much liter per square meter is one inch rain?
[08:17:20] <Deejay> 25,4 liters?
[08:17:40] <SpeedEvil> yes
[08:17:45] <SpeedEvil> a millimeter is a litre
[08:18:31] <Deejay> hmm, yes, here in germany, it is.
[08:18:51] <Deejay> but maybe they have bigger rain gauges? other diameter or something
[08:19:46] <Deejay> perhaps optimized for gallones per square foot or something like that ;)
[08:25:18] <Contract_Pilot> When you loose a screw driver time to quit for the night!
[08:26:13] <Contract_Pilot> fot the limit switches some what working.... need to figure out how to make it retract say .050 after hitting like homing
[08:26:34] <Contract_Pilot> RFight now it just locks pathpilot up.
[08:45:37] <Contract_Pilot> MIN_LIMIT =
[08:45:38] <Contract_Pilot> MAX_LIMIT =
[08:45:47] <Contract_Pilot> Are soft limits Right?
[08:46:32] <Contract_Pilot> Min is - and max just a number
[08:47:56] <gregcnc> soft limits
[08:48:21] <Contract_Pilot> Ok,
[08:48:22] <cradek> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/ini-config.html#_axis__lt_num_gt_section
[08:49:00] <gregcnc> to get it to back off the switch "home_offset" and "home" must be different
[08:52:01] <Contract_Pilot> MIN_LIMIT = -5.16
[08:52:01] <Contract_Pilot> MAX_LIMIT = 5.16
[08:52:34] <JT-Shop> typically min limit is at or near 0 and max limit the max travel
[08:53:14] <Contract_Pilot> Ok, just trying to get to stop befor the switch
[08:53:38] <Contract_Pilot> if it hit's the switch it locks and wants reset!
[08:53:58] <Contract_Pilot> Or disconnect the switch.
[08:55:45] <Contract_Pilot> So smothing like this or reversed
[08:55:50] <Contract_Pilot> MIN_LIMIT = -5.16
[08:55:50] <Contract_Pilot> MAX_LIMIT = 0.100
[08:56:33] <gregcnc> what is home offset and home set to?
[08:56:44] <cradek> is that Z? that would be a normal setup for Z, with 0 a the top and negative going down
[08:56:52] <Contract_Pilot> Home is 0.00 right now.
[08:57:06] <Contract_Pilot> X
[08:57:17] <Contract_Pilot> This is a lathe
[08:57:46] <skunkworks> wow - my little emco is only a 300w motor.
[08:57:52] <gregcnc> and home offset?
[08:58:03] <cradek> it would be weird for a lathe's X to have mostly negative values
[08:59:27] <Contract_Pilot> home off set is .010
[09:00:56] <gregcnc> home offset should be near 5.16, this tells linuxcnc where the switch is
[09:02:36] <gregcnc> oops you changed your numbers
[09:03:26] <Contract_Pilot> From limit switch to limit switch i get 5.16" travel
[09:03:36] <Contract_Pilot> or Home to limit switch
[09:03:56] <Contract_Pilot> Home is 0.000
[09:04:04] <cradek> then your limits shouldn't be 5.26 apart
[09:04:15] <Contract_Pilot> 1/2 it
[09:04:24] <cradek> soft limits should not let you touch the switches
[09:04:30] <Contract_Pilot> Right
[09:04:41] <Contract_Pilot> I am trying to figure it out
[09:05:22] <gregcnc> is the limit switch tripped in home position?
[09:05:41] <skunkworks> do your switches have no hysteresis?
[09:05:46] <Contract_Pilot> Now it homes and backs off .010 and goes 0.00
[09:06:23] <Contract_Pilot> but when i run the other direction it is like soft limits do not work
[09:07:00] <Contract_Pilot> if i hit the switch big mess have to reboot
[09:07:15] <Contract_Pilot> or wait for PP to do its thing
[09:08:50] <Contract_Pilot> Bit i have .0002 back lash on X and .001 on X not bad
[09:09:15] <Contract_Pilot> I think i can adjust it out to 0.0
[09:10:01] <Contract_Pilot> Nuts are adjustable http://www.thomsonlinear.com/en/product/7820955
[09:11:45] <gregcnc> if the home switch and soft limit are the same position, the limit will trip at the same time, move limit just inside the home switch position
[09:28:12] <Contract_Pilot> Just tried -4.00 soomed right past it
[09:29:08] <Contract_Pilot> Homes just fine hits the switch and backs off X.XX
[10:58:41] <plpower> hi
[10:58:47] <plpower> CaptHindsight: ?
[11:02:02] <plpower> Deejay: did you got rain today
[11:02:17] <plpower> here its try as sandstorm
[11:02:51] <plpower> Contract_Pilot: still on pathpilot
[11:04:43] <Deejay> plpower, nope, no rain today, bright sunshine :)
[11:04:54] <Deejay> harvesting weather
[11:05:46] <plpower> yes here also all farmers on fields
[11:06:04] <plpower> and the windmill farmers are planting 5 more
[11:07:11] <plpower> best is that the largest manufacture of mobile cranes is here in town and the windmills are set up with the direct competetor cranes in factory view
[11:07:40] <plpower> woudt be a good picture for the internel press relees
[11:09:30] <plpower> ok im off till later someone can direct CaptHindsight to the howto vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtGMbdmXLG4 3dstofusion360
[11:09:42] <plpower> thanks
[11:14:44] <Contract_Pilot> Ok, got it solved
[11:15:16] <Contract_Pilot> soft limits working good typo! need to not drink and edit!
[11:16:59] <Contract_Pilot> Just some of the first movements https://youtu.be/hS0PrnzkDvU
[11:17:17] <Contract_Pilot> Next is getting vistacnc pendent to work.;
[11:17:53] <Contract_Pilot> Followed the instructions no go.
[11:20:23] <JT-Shop> can you set up a small pc to just play music without a monitor or keyboard etc?
[11:23:09] <skunkworks> http://www.daphile.com/
[11:23:49] <skunkworks> stream internet or play your own music
[11:24:05] <skunkworks> it works surprisingly well
[11:24:14] <skunkworks> all through a web interface
[11:28:32] <JT-Shop> play my own music, I can't stream anything lol
[11:28:56] <JT-Shop> pretty neat Sam
[11:30:02] <JT-Shop> I'll have to grab that in the morning during free time
[11:37:36] <skunkworks> A coworker found it a few weeks ago and already has an atom at home running it
[11:38:31] <skunkworks> (and he is an audiophile...
[11:45:53] <skunkworks> So it must be good ;)
[11:47:39] <JT-Shop> I could have sworn I had a 525 with a busted lan port somewhere...
[12:32:34] <_methods> yeah you can do that JT-Shop
[12:32:50] <_methods> headless web radio
[12:33:17] <_methods> lot of people use raspi's for that
[12:33:41] <_methods> with mpd or bubbleupnp
[12:34:23] <_methods> i like thtat daphile though i'll have to try that out
[13:00:02] <plpower> hi
[13:01:19] <plpower> JT-Shop: just use raspberry
[13:01:44] <plpower> CaptHindsight: ?
[13:02:00] <CaptHindsight> whats up?
[13:02:21] <plpower> did you see the vid on howto 3ds to fusion360
[13:02:41] <CaptHindsight> no, busy through the weekend
[13:02:55] <CaptHindsight> sorry wish I knew 3dsmax
[13:02:57] <plpower> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtGMbdmXLG4
[13:03:13] <CaptHindsight> saw the link, no time to watch
[13:03:14] <JT-Shop> don't have a raspberry
[13:03:44] <plpower> 3ds is 1TB here imposible to download
[13:04:09] <CaptHindsight> when I get time
[13:04:19] <plpower> JT-Shop: then use a simple damm cheep carradio with usb
[13:04:45] <plpower> i think i need to ask on 3ds in blender
[13:06:06] <CaptHindsight> Rhino, 3dsmax to NX, SW, Catia etc is always a project
[13:06:51] <plpower> herei n germany the sahools are closed so no chance to get a conversion beside asking a real factory
[14:21:27] <MacGalempsy> hello
[14:21:53] <MacGalempsy> Anyone have any luck with Fusion3600 and LCNC?
[14:22:11] <Tom_itx> andy uses it
[14:25:37] <MacGalempsy> After using Sketchup for so long, learning Fusion360 is going to be slow
[14:31:07] <FloppyDisk5_25> maybe some utube vids?
[15:02:52] <MacGalempsy> Perhaps I started with a too complex piece. Doing this simple bracket seems to be going more smoothly on the modelling, so far.
[16:11:05] <Deejay> gn8
[16:17:29] <Tom_itx> MacGalempsy what complex piece?
[16:17:40] <Tom_itx> i like complex :)
[16:18:30] <MacGalempsy> tom, I meant complex as of my current level of understanding. It was only Tslot aluminum. lol
[16:18:42] <Tom_itx> hah
[16:19:13] <Tom_itx> i like to keep my cad skilz up
[16:19:45] <MacGalempsy> right now I am working on the design of a slide bracket to mount a motor and a bearing.
[16:20:03] <MacGalempsy> pretty square, so nothing fancy
[16:20:04] <Tom_itx> i should take some more catia classes but i really don't have the time right now
[16:20:53] <Tom_itx> next one would be putting tools to the cad
[16:21:03] <Tom_itx> which i kinda wanna know
[16:21:20] <Tom_itx> i've got all the books as my kid has taken it already along with surface machining etc
[16:21:34] <MacGalempsy> this should be enough to get the hole design to cut process completed
[16:21:50] <MacGalempsy> and some motivation to get the tool changer working :)
[16:22:20] <Tom_itx> break time for me..
[16:22:21] <Tom_itx> later
[16:22:41] <MacGalempsy> laters
[21:39:39] <CaptHindsight> replaced the laser with a 3500 Lumen projector https://ibin.co/2rpPhrOPJ89r.jpg should print 10-100x faster now
[21:53:35] <MacGalempsy> CaptHindsight: that looks pretty awesome. any pics of a final product with the laser?
[22:05:22] <CaptHindsight> the laser is out since it was so underpowered
[22:05:48] <CaptHindsight> I'll put up some pics of another real SLA printer with a laser later
[22:07:22] <MacGalempsy> how many watt laser was it?
[22:08:16] <CaptHindsight> I didn't measure but likely 50mW 405nm
[22:08:39] <MacGalempsy> maybe enough juice to cut black paper :P
[22:09:10] <CaptHindsight> SLA is pretty slow unless you're using several watts and scan real fast
[22:11:59] <CaptHindsight> I was converting this Nobel1.0 printer to Linuxcnc but now I need it for another project
[22:28:01] <MacGalempsy> Well, I spent the day working in Fusion360. Got a part drawn, some tools setup, still need to make a fixture for the simulation. If everything works out, I should be able to do my first 3d milling operations tomorrow
[23:07:07] <Contract_Pilot> Anyone know if TB4 spindle on the 7I76 is sinking our sourcing?
[23:35:24] <FloppyDisk5_25> Page 12 of the manual talks about the hook up.
[23:36:04] <FloppyDisk5_25> The analog output is (per the manual), is an isolated potentiometer output. So, I would say it's not sinking or sourcing...
[23:36:33] <FloppyDisk5_25> For speed control, look at how the potentiometer is wired to your spindle drive and connect that way...
[23:44:24] <Contract_Pilot> I am wondering about the enable + and Dir +
[23:46:17] <FloppyDisk5_25> Yeah, that's not so easy..
[23:46:20] <FloppyDisk5_25> I found this: http://www.nutsvolts.com/magazine/article/optocoupler-circuits
[23:46:42] <FloppyDisk5_25> At least not so easy for electrically deficient like moi...
[23:48:17] <FloppyDisk5_25> on that page, scroll down to figure 12, in that figure it shows a pull up and pull down configuration.
[23:49:06] <FloppyDisk5_25> Since the manual says that it can handle up to 50mA, the resistor should be a value to limit current to that value (or less) based on your relay or load...
[23:49:25] <FloppyDisk5_25> Does that make sense? I'd agree, it's not really a sinking/sourcing question...
[23:49:49] <FloppyDisk5_25> However, in my limited knowledge, if your output is less than 50ma, I'd think you don't need a resistor...
[23:52:55] <Contract_Pilot> Ok, I am hooking to a Hitachi WJ200
[23:54:31] <FloppyDisk5_25> I would think on the linuxcnc forum there'd be a similar question. I'm sure someone has hooked up that drive to a 7i76 before, just guessing...
[23:58:57] <FloppyDisk5_25> Contract_Pilot --> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/24556601-post15.html
[23:59:24] <FloppyDisk5_25> That pirate guy did what you're trying to do, try the link and scroll a bit, hopefully that will help...