#linuxcnc | Logs for 2016-08-14

[00:49:39] <XXCoder> http://spaceflightnow.com/2016/08/13/falcon-9-jcsat-16-mission-status-center/ launching!
[02:31:32] <Deejay> moin
[02:53:45] <XXCoder> yo
[05:48:57] <jthornton> looks like a week of heavy rain here
[05:54:22] <archivist> are you going to dig a moat for drainage around the shed
[05:56:18] <jthornton> I have a moat up above the shed to stop run off from the woods above running down the hill
[05:57:06] <jthornton> I've made some progress on the interface for the 2.8 configuration wizard if you want to take a peek http://gnipsel.com/files/linuxcnc/2.8-config.zip
[05:57:29] <XXCoder> jthornton: here its week of heavy humid sun
[06:34:59] <jthornton> I'd take sun and humid for a while
[06:36:53] <XXCoder> not me. hjot and humid is my body worse weather
[06:37:11] <XXCoder> I can stand in least 20 more f degrees hotter without humidity
[06:59:22] <jthornton> only because of the problems at this point with dealing with the rain and run off
[06:59:54] <jthornton> I don't have everything in place for drainage and stabilization of the fresh ground
[07:00:33] <jthornton> I did a stop gap measure Friday before the rain got here and I hope it is working
[07:02:09] <XXCoder> ahh
[07:02:55] <jthornton> made a levee out of chat across the road to slow the water down
[07:04:24] <archivist> I though that would encourage it through the building
[07:05:13] <jthornton> the floor is 6" above grade so not much chance there
[07:07:52] <jthornton> something else would give way if the water got that deep
[08:11:14] <Polymorphism> bo chips yet, no progress to report
[08:11:22] <Polymorphism> I received a bag of some missing hardware 3 days agoi
[08:12:23] <Polymorphism> I still have the ballscrew binding///not level/parallel Y rails issue
[08:12:31] <Polymorphism> I haven't taken anothger look at it yet
[08:12:38] <Polymorphism> I suppose I expect to fail so I feel no great motivation to even try
[08:12:48] <Polymorphism> so I've been focusing on school and music with all of my energy
[08:13:17] <Polymorphism> but I really want to finish this build.... and so I think I shall. If I wanted to sell it at a loss I think that might be easier complete than a pile of parts
[08:13:29] <Polymorphism> not that that is my plan, but I like to keep options open
[08:14:22] <Polymorphism> george also mentioned an upgraded version with ledges for all rails, it sounded like he was implying he would provide me the upgrade free or at very low cost
[08:14:27] <Polymorphism> so I wait to hear about that as well
[10:48:30] <Duc> Polymorphism: Did you get your router up and going yet
[11:03:02] <plpower> hi can someone here transcode a max file in a step or stl ?
[11:03:14] <plpower> here is no windows inside
[11:03:24] <plpower> so no 3ds
[11:15:02] <jesseg> jthornton, what is "chat" in the context of making a levee? I've been sitting here looking at your statement trying to figure it out :D
[11:18:51] <Tom_itx> jesseg, gravel
[11:20:51] <jesseg> Tom_itx, AHhhhhhh thanks!
[11:22:14] <Polymorphism> Duc, its on the back burner for a bit. Been focusing on studies and music
[11:22:50] <Duc> there is always time for toys
[11:22:56] <Duc> hour here and hour there
[11:23:33] <jesseg> Tom_itx, jthornton the web seems to indicate that Chat is toxic waste gravel left over from lead mining operations in the first half of the 20th century...
[11:24:14] <jesseg> which explains why I'd never heard of it before :D
[11:24:19] <Tom_itx> white crushed rock
[11:25:25] <JT-Shop> crushed limestone
[11:25:41] <Tom_itx> http://gnipsel.com/images/equipment-shed/e-shed-20.jpg
[11:26:40] <jesseg> Ahhhh.... how about that.... "Chat" is a landscaping industry specific keyword too, and it means any crushed rock it seems LOL. And it's also a Mining industry specific keyword for lead waste gravel LOL.
[11:27:10] <jesseg> Ahhh OK.. very nice.
[11:27:13] <Tom_itx> we do waste alot of time here
[11:27:31] * JT-Shop is not wasting anymore of his nap time
[11:27:46] <jesseg> where generally are you? Look at that red soil
[11:27:50] <jesseg> is there gold in that? lol
[11:28:02] <jesseg> Oregon has some of that red soil
[11:28:03] <Tom_itx> Mo
[11:28:07] <jesseg> ahh
[11:28:27] <JT-Shop> swamp east missouri in the foot hills
[11:28:36] <Tom_itx> clay probably
[11:28:39] <JT-Shop> no gold just clay
[11:28:49] <Tom_itx> keep diggin...
[11:29:01] <jesseg> yeah that's what google is saying no gold in Misery :{
[11:29:04] * JT-Shop is pretty much done digging for a while lol
[11:30:00] * JT-Shop has some logs to cut be back in an hour or so
[12:42:22] <zeeshan|3> =D
[12:42:25] <zeeshan|3> looks great jt
[13:10:53] <plpower> hi
[13:11:29] <plpower> sorry for the fast retrackt got to move to a quick meeting
[13:11:44] <plpower> So ones more a question as im on ubuntu only
[13:12:01] <plpower> can someone trtanscode a max file into step
[13:12:17] <plpower> its a free model
[13:12:28] <plpower> of a face ornament
[13:12:42] <plpower> woudt like to do it in wood
[13:12:54] <plpower> but only fining the max file
[13:13:18] <plpower> http://www.cadnav.com/3d-models/model-19129.html
[13:14:23] <plpower> does somone maybe kow where to find simular things like that
[13:18:07] <plpower> http://www.brownwoodinc.com/appliques/acanthus-tile.asp things like that as a 3d file
[13:19:55] <Tom_itx> what's max format?
[13:21:07] <plpower> 3dsmax
[13:21:11] <plpower> i guess
[13:21:38] <Tom_itx> https://www.vectorart3d.com/
[13:22:29] <Tom_itx> http://carver3d.com/en/
[13:23:36] <Tom_itx> http://www.craftsmanspace.com/free-3d-models
[13:25:43] <plpower> vector art has only access registert users
[13:30:14] <plpower> got one
[13:30:28] <plpower> but woudt be good to convert the face ornament also
[13:42:02] <plpower> thanks i will work on it
[13:54:23] <CaptHindsight> https://softsolder.com/2013/03/14/g-code-and-m-code-grand-master-list/
[13:56:43] <archivist> looks a bit buggy
[13:57:53] <archivist> line 6 G1 LC Coordinated Straight Motion Feed Rate, as many axes as I damned well like to program :)
[13:59:52] <CaptHindsight> I'm not sure what he used for references
[14:00:12] <CaptHindsight> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/g-code.html#gcode:g1
[14:01:42] <CaptHindsight> I guess he didn't bother checking http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/g-code.html#_g_codes for the Linuxcnc descriptions
[14:02:06] <CaptHindsight> I guess you can't trust his other comparisons either
[14:02:07] <archivist> hmm our docs not quite correct if you throw a rotary or 3 into a G1 (This will produce coordinated linear motion)
[14:04:28] <CaptHindsight> I need to Home a stepper motor that does not control an axis
[14:05:40] <archivist> I cut a helical with G1 F.05 x-.063 Y[0-#20] Z[0-#5] A[0-#<rotation_angle>] (rotate blank 7 turns)
[14:07:31] <archivist> there is a linear path of the cutter and a coordinated rotation of the work in my case
[14:08:32] <Tom_itx> put a switch on it or encoder and have stop upon signal
[14:12:20] <CaptHindsight> already has a switch
[14:12:36] <CaptHindsight> have to borrow the homing code
[14:13:10] <CaptHindsight> or add a button to AXIS to manually home it
[14:30:59] <Duc> is it something you want to automaticly home during bootup. Ie its home where ever it is
[16:27:06] <Deejay> gn8
[16:34:46] <Contract_Pilot> Good Afternoon this Sunday.
[16:35:12] <JT-Shop> howdy stranger
[16:35:38] <Contract_Pilot> Finilay got some sleep that all nighter wiring the controller was a nightmare
[16:35:50] <Contract_Pilot> Not trying to get path pilot to run.
[16:36:02] <Contract_Pilot> keep getting e-stop issues
[16:36:16] <Contract_Pilot> But got it to move on LCNC.
[16:37:25] <Contract_Pilot> Once my molex housing pins and connector arrive i can wire up, Encoder, VFD, and Switches on the machine.
[16:38:14] <Contract_Pilot> But goal is to get PP out of estop mode and get axis movement.
[16:38:41] <Contract_Pilot> get the vistacnc pendent working.
[16:38:52] <Contract_Pilot> hey JT Shop
[16:39:20] * JT-Shop knows less than nothing about PP
[16:39:39] <Contract_Pilot> Wondering if the Vfield of 12V is enough.
[16:39:52] <Contract_Pilot> I have a 12V PSU on the way
[16:39:52] <JT-Shop> Mesa card?
[16:39:55] <Contract_Pilot> mesa card
[16:39:56] <CaptHindsight> Duc: it's an A axis but not rotated when there is any cutting/adding going on
[16:39:59] <Contract_Pilot> 7I76
[16:40:04] <JT-Shop> yea 12v is fine
[16:40:06] <CaptHindsight> rotated/tilted
[16:40:50] <JT-Shop> almost done with the 50 ton press brake http://gnipsel.com/images/press-brake/press-brake-07.jpg
[16:41:15] <Contract_Pilot> Nice....
[16:41:47] <Contract_Pilot> Would love to have one of them
[16:42:25] <JT-Shop> I have a crappy one you can acquire lol
[16:43:15] <Contract_Pilot> the old one was that a 4x4 off road one
[16:43:43] <JT-Shop> I've seen that one I think
[16:44:13] <Contract_Pilot> this is the PSU i am using http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mean-Well/PT-45B/?qs=pqZ7J9Gt%2FmpfwRyVqWScTQ%3D%3D&gclid=CI-WlK_pwc4CFU5lfgod87QKSA
[16:45:16] <Contract_Pilot> Supplies 5V and 12V the PD-45B i have on the way is 5V and 24v i need 24V for a actuator.
[16:46:16] <JT-Shop> 24v is normal for field power
[16:46:33] <JT-Shop> you should have ordered one from me...
[16:46:35] <Contract_Pilot> Yep...
[16:46:58] <Contract_Pilot> JT-Shop were you the one in oregon
[16:47:14] <JT-Shop> swamp east missouri
[16:47:19] <Contract_Pilot> Ahhh '
[16:47:25] <JT-Shop> http://mesaus.com/
[16:47:32] <Contract_Pilot> Trying to figure out this hal for the e-stop
[16:47:36] <Contract_Pilot> # estop noise debounce
[16:47:36] <Contract_Pilot> #net machine-ok-raw hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.input-00 => machine-ok-db.in
[16:47:36] <Contract_Pilot> # use the setp line below without a machine attached
[16:47:36] <Contract_Pilot> # this isn't useful unless a properly flashed 5i25 is present
[16:47:36] <Contract_Pilot> net machine-ok-debounced machine-ok-db.out => estop-latch.0.ok-in
[16:47:36] <Contract_Pilot> ######=> pwmgen.0.enable
[16:47:38] <Contract_Pilot> #net estop estop-latch.0.ok-out => iocontrol.0.emc-enable-in => #hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.output-07 => pwmgen.0.enable
[16:47:41] <Contract_Pilot> # using hardware pwm gen
[16:47:43] <Contract_Pilot> #net estop estop-latch.0.ok-out => iocontrol.0.emc-enable-in => hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.output-07 => hm2_5i25.0.pwmgen.00.enable
[16:47:46] <Contract_Pilot> net estop-reset iocontrol.0.user-request-enable => estop-latch.0.reset
[16:48:12] <JT-Shop> ouch use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ or similar
[16:48:39] <JT-Shop> so your trying to connect an external estop?
[16:49:11] <Contract_Pilot> Yes.
[16:49:14] <Contract_Pilot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23056606/
[16:49:53] <JT-Shop> have you viewed this https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/47-hal-examples/25861-external-e-stop
[16:51:25] <Contract_Pilot> Yes, keep getting error: machine has been estopped. Restore power to machine and click rest button to continue. Command cannot be executed unless machine is powered on and the control software is out of RESET Condition
[16:51:59] <JT-Shop> might be a PP thing
[16:52:14] <Contract_Pilot> Yep.
[16:52:14] <JT-Shop> I don't care how it takes over your PC lol
[16:52:45] <Duc> CaptHindsight: once Im done cutting Ill send you my config for my A-axis
[16:53:16] <Contract_Pilot> Right now i have V Field Jumperd to input 00 or pin 1 of TB6 to simulate NC switch.
[16:55:40] <Contract_Pilot> I am using these sample hal & ini files to start. https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/pathpilot/30217-setup-configuring-pathpilot-for-lathe-tutorial2
[16:57:04] <JT-Shop> just wondering why you chose PP?
[16:57:25] <Contract_Pilot> the GUI
[16:58:33] <JT-Shop> ok, I've never seen it so I don't know what it gives you over Axis + Ngcgui
[17:00:27] <Contract_Pilot> I am assuming #net estop estop-latch.0.ok-out is to a indicator?
[17:01:29] <JT-Shop> the # means it is a comment
[17:02:06] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/hal/basic-hal.html
[17:02:14] <JT-Shop> a short informative read on hal
[17:05:06] <Contract_Pilot> Yep, I understand that
[17:05:38] <Contract_Pilot> the sample a lot of items are hashed out for testing and debugging.
[17:06:28] <Contract_Pilot> First item on the check list is to get the switches working and then axis movement.
[17:06:40] <Contract_Pilot> thern i can work on VDF settings
[17:07:03] <JT-Shop> in Axis it is net estop-loopout iocontrol.0.emc-enable-in <= estop-latch.0.ok-out
[17:07:28] <Contract_Pilot> Never hard of axis.
[17:07:57] <JT-Shop> it is the most stable GUI http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gui/axis.html
[17:09:10] <Contract_Pilot> ohhh yea i seen that
[17:09:52] <JT-Shop> add ngcgui and you have a winner http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gui/ngcgui.html
[17:10:59] <CaptHindsight> Duc: already have one, I decided to just make it an A axis vs just a custom M-code
[17:11:32] <JT-Shop> hmm the 71 pound springs are a bit weak.. I wonder if I should get the 137 or 304 pound springs
[17:12:02] <Contract_Pilot> So i think i just need to unhash #net machine-ok-raw hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.input-00 => machine-ok-db.in
[17:12:22] <CaptHindsight> then these configs may followed for a galvo based printer, engraver, cutter or SLS
[17:12:34] <JT-Shop> it pretty much needs to look like this https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/47-hal-examples/25861-external-e-stop
[17:14:31] <CaptHindsight> but thus printer just tilts the table a few degrees (~10) when it releases the print from the vat
[17:14:53] <Contract_Pilot> ok-in or ok-out
[17:15:30] <CaptHindsight> Duc: but I wouldn't mind seeing your config
[17:16:38] <Duc> CaptHindsight: almost done so many chips I have to clean whileits cutting
[17:18:30] <Contract_Pilot> This will be fun time for a beer
[17:29:18] <Duc> ok finally finished
[17:30:24] <Duc> CaptHindsight: so I have my rotary config to home at its current position when I press home for those times I dont have the rotary hooked up
[17:31:20] <Duc> whats a way to upload this config?
[17:35:38] <JT-Shop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:37:15] <CaptHindsight> Duc: pastebin.ca
[17:40:45] <Duc> CaptHindsight: here is the .hal http://pastebin.ca/3691720 uploading INI now
[17:41:41] <Duc> http://pastebin.ca/3691724
[17:41:53] <Duc> Most of the homing is in the INI for me
[17:49:26] <CaptHindsight> says I have a parameter or pin not found, will post the HAL, yet I copied and updated one stepper axis to make another
[17:54:24] <Duc> did you update the pin selection for the new motor
[17:55:21] <CaptHindsight> yeah and that is what it says is not found
[18:00:10] <MrHindsight> http://www.pastebin.ca/3691734 HAL
[18:01:23] <MrHindsight> error says line 131 (under Axis) says that stepgen.3.position-scale is not found
[18:02:15] <Duc> do you have anything in your INI for the file
[18:02:18] <Duc> axis I mean
[18:03:54] <MrHindsight> INI http://www.pastebin.ca/3691739
[18:06:33] <Duc> does it work if you remove A axis. so this ran fine on X Y Z?
[18:06:41] <CaptHindsight> yeah, ran fine
[18:06:59] <CaptHindsight> I just added A axis
[18:07:11] <CaptHindsight> X and Y are servos, Z is a stepper
[18:07:42] <CaptHindsight> I checked my Z axis section of ther HAL file against a new config generated by stepconfig
[18:07:46] <CaptHindsight> they are the same
[18:07:58] <CaptHindsight> why I'm scratching my head
[18:08:34] <Duc> yea Im not understanding it either
[18:08:48] <CaptHindsight> I created a 4 sxis stepper config and copied and pasted that in and i get the same error
[18:09:21] <CaptHindsight> I wish I knew how AXIS gui figures out what to display and how the signal tie to it
[18:09:41] <Duc> pm PCW
[18:10:31] <JT-Shop> Axis looks at the ini file to determine what controls to display
[18:11:25] <Duc> at the top of the sample config how does the following look
[18:11:53] <Duc> http://www.pastebin.ca/3691749
[18:12:07] <MrHindsight> the 4 axis stepper config runs just fine
[18:12:16] <Duc> maybe its not loading enough stuff on the paraport
[18:12:25] <MrHindsight> what am I mising with the 2 servos and 2 steppers?
[18:13:13] <Duc> loadrt pwmgen output_type=1, 1 might need another 1 on there
[18:15:02] <MrHindsight> the 4 stepper config just has loadrt stepgen step_type=0,0,0,0
[18:15:07] <MrHindsight> loadrt pwmgen output_type=1
[18:15:59] <JT-Shop> 8 1/2" rain yesterday and 5 1/2" so far today...
[18:16:05] * JT-Shop calls it a day
[18:16:51] <MrHindsight> I added a 0 to loadrt stepgen step_type=0,0,0
[18:16:55] <Duc> then dont you need a 4th size
[18:17:01] <Duc> zero
[18:17:43] <Roguish> JT-Shop: have you started building your arc yet?
[18:19:16] <MrHindsight> it works!!
[18:20:16] <Duc> what was wrong?
[18:20:49] <Contract_Pilot> Wow 1 beer i got a buzz 8.5% not bad!
[18:21:08] <CaptHindsight> Duc: in the INI line 13 was loadrt stepgen step_type=0,0,0 and I changed it to loadrt stepgen step_type=0,0,0,0
[18:21:08] <Contract_Pilot> Need to drink more!
[18:21:59] <Duc> so much frustation when that happens
[18:22:27] <CaptHindsight> but I'm only using 2 of the 4 stepgens
[18:23:04] <CaptHindsight> but AXIS gui must need the input that way for it to add the 4th axis and the 2ng Job slider
[18:23:04] <Contract_Pilot> maybe a nap in a bit, then deal with customer on ak parts kits, then get to play with CNC again.
[18:23:42] <CaptHindsight> I wish I understood this more, but it might not make sense, it might just work
[18:24:24] <Contract_Pilot> I been reading for week and still my understanding is limited.
[18:24:46] <Contract_Pilot> but once it i can coralate it will be golden.
[18:24:59] <CaptHindsight> to me this is just typical software, it just works, don't ask why
[18:26:13] <Duc> Contract_Pilot: what type of ak parts
[18:27:25] <MrHindsight> sorry line 13 in HAL file not INI
[18:27:38] <Contract_Pilot> Complete kits and flats
[18:27:51] <Contract_Pilot> Rivetsets, Etc.
[18:30:41] <Contract_Pilot> My retirement hobby fall and winter. http://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/image-6-1024x768.jpeg
[18:37:03] <Duc> one of the few guns I dont own
[18:38:02] <CaptHindsight> Tom_itx: the other way to solve the hot stepper motors issues is to disable the drives when parked, this design will never move on its own
[18:38:42] <Duc> I just disconnect the motor plugs when not in use
[18:39:37] <CaptHindsight> some drives will die if you do that when powered
[18:40:22] <Roguish> Duc: yeah, be very, very careful 'hot plugging'.
[18:40:30] <Tom_itx> sounds like you're making some progress
[18:40:36] <Duc> I never hot plug but fully power down when I do that
[18:41:10] <Roguish> that's GOOD. takes a bit longer, but saves $$$$
[18:41:19] <Tom_itx> even gecko discourages that
[18:41:29] <CaptHindsight> Tom_itx: just need to calibrate everything and try different laser control setups
[18:42:01] <Duc> Never had issues with the yaskawa drive units
[18:43:23] <CaptHindsight> Duc: http://www.valuehobby.com/tb6600-controller.html are the cheapies I was trying
[18:43:42] <CaptHindsight> the good drivers go into idle mode
[18:43:44] <Duc> man I wish mine were that cheap
[18:44:02] <CaptHindsight> you trade working well for barley works
[18:44:20] <Duc> lol well time for home depot
[18:44:22] <Duc> brb
[19:58:38] <CaptHindsight> brought to you by the people that brought you recrap! Introducing: http://www.opensurgery.net
[20:00:25] <CaptHindsight> Next patient please!
[20:02:30] <CaptHindsight> https://vimeo.com/131449531 sorry about your liver, the Little Stepper locked up
[20:03:28] <XXCoder> autodoc failure was part of one book plot
[20:03:53] <Tom_itx> harmless
[20:04:11] <XXCoder> captain was hurt and while he was under, there was power issues and somehow machine got invalid inputs and it did random shit and killed captain
[20:04:31] <XXCoder> spaceship captain
[20:05:00] <CaptHindsight> http://www.opensurgery.net/img/Opensurgery_lasercut.jpg oh good there is a wood grain version as well
[20:05:46] <Duc> http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd465/shefron/Guns/Turrent/20160814_192947_zpscpeotwlf.jpg
[20:06:02] <CaptHindsight> it's one thing to make low budget models with what materials you have on hand, it's another story to post pics of them
[20:20:20] <SpeedEvil> CaptHindsight: surgery is a wide variety of stuff.
[20:20:34] <SpeedEvil> On a related matter, I was pondering earlier hair removal.
[20:20:51] <SpeedEvil> Currently all the methods of LASER hair removal illuminate the whole skin area
[20:21:09] <SpeedEvil> If, instead, you target each hair root, it should be considerably less painful and more effective.
[20:21:27] <SpeedEvil> And probably work on blondes
[20:22:37] <SpeedEvil> Plus - there is the obvious issue that in some cases a robo-surgeon that kills 10% of patients is a great improvement over 'well, looks like you're gonna die'
[20:23:44] <SpeedEvil> You can also relatively easily test them on animals.
[20:27:02] <CaptHindsight> nah, this group of makers will donate their bodies to science
[20:27:13] <CaptHindsight> they are selfless
[20:27:46] <Duc> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35zrKDZXkag
[20:28:53] <XXCoder> I suppose it can be made and used by very poor countries
[20:28:56] <XXCoder> better than nothing
[20:29:41] <CaptHindsight> what I've found is that you can make things like this the right way without it getting too expensive
[20:30:06] <CaptHindsight> these project start with junk and never really improve
[20:30:07] <XXCoder> depends on what tools have too
[20:32:05] <CaptHindsight> true, but even a group of monkeys can't build much even in a cnc shop at NASA
[20:32:34] <SpeedEvil> http://www.meddeviceonline.com/doc/nanoparticle-glue-helps-repair-tissue-0001 - is wacky
[20:32:50] <SpeedEvil> tissue glue using only nanoparticles of iron oxide
[20:33:01] <CaptHindsight> Ms Lubners 6 grade science class nuclear reactor
[20:33:23] <XXCoder> SpeedEvil: I remember rrading about something that stops bleeding and are injected by something like needle but 1 cm bore, to inject what looks like pellets
[20:33:33] <SpeedEvil> yeah - not that.
[20:33:52] <XXCoder> I know
[20:33:59] <XXCoder> I was just remembering related idea
[20:34:06] <SpeedEvil> this effectively glues tissues together with 0 toxic filler
[20:34:07] <XXCoder> that one is nice for very deep cuts
[20:34:26] <XXCoder> toxic? never said it was toxic
[20:35:46] <SpeedEvil> yes
[20:35:54] <SpeedEvil> I was meaning in comparison to conventional glues
[20:36:07] <SpeedEvil> which are somewhat questionable in most cases
[20:36:32] <XXCoder> ahh those
[20:36:58] <XXCoder> found it
[20:37:04] <XXCoder> http://www.popsci.com/article/technology/how-simple-new-invention-seals-gunshot-wound-15-seconds
[20:40:23] <SpeedEvil> yeah - that's more instant 'fuck he's going to die', rather than surgery. Interesting though
[20:40:37] <XXCoder> yeah i somewhat msiremembered
[20:43:56] <CaptHindsight> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v505/n7483/full/nature12806.html
[20:46:16] <CaptHindsight> the silica is porous so the polymer gels flow into the pores and create a physical bond vs chemical
[20:46:30] <CaptHindsight> sort of like hook and loop fasteners
[20:47:54] <CaptHindsight> https://www.google.com/patents/EP2857350A1?cl=en
[21:56:24] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5a50ob8ovQ howto M67 the Laser for PWM
[21:58:32] <XXCoder> thats cool
[21:58:37] <XXCoder> he made adoptor too
[22:09:48] <CaptHindsight> he has a sense of humor as well
[22:10:53] <XXCoder> cool
[22:11:32] <CaptHindsight> the new trajectory planner makes this all possible
[22:11:59] <CaptHindsight> it used to only loo ahead by one line, no the default is 50
[22:12:04] <CaptHindsight> no/now
[22:12:36] <XXCoder> nice, I bet that makes it so much smoother since it dont have to figure stuff on run
[22:33:14] <CaptHindsight> can you have 2 different types of pwmgen running at the same time, say type=0 and and a type=1?
[23:24:49] <CaptHindsight> heh, the Nobel1.0 laser diode driver has a near instant turn on time but a few second off, so it can't be PWM'ed
[23:25:37] <XXCoder> unless cheat, add dweels at ends when turn off
[23:25:51] <CaptHindsight> I wonder of there is a patent on variable laser output for SLA
[23:27:08] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: other way to cheat is something that goes in and blocks laser so its "instant off"
[23:27:24] <XXCoder> though there have to be pause as it finally actually turns off
[23:37:15] <CaptHindsight> I can change the driver but not tonight