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[02:27:22] <Deejay> moin
[02:30:16] <XXCoder> heeeyeyyeyeyeyyyey
[02:33:46] <Deejay> yo :)
[02:35:46] <XXCoder> been building my 3d printer for hours lol
[03:07:56] <Deejay> if its fun to build, it doesn't matter how long it takes ;)
[03:08:11] <XXCoder> indeed
[03:08:15] <XXCoder> few annoyances though
[03:08:20] <XXCoder> like plastic parts having burrs
[03:09:50] <Loetmichel> if it were only burrs
[03:10:30] <Deejay> morning Loetmichel
[03:10:39] <Loetmichel> the parts i had had to be reamed and filed for quite a bit until they had something that remotely resembled a "fit"
[03:10:57] <Loetmichel> moin digga :)
[03:11:28] <Deejay> lol ;)
[03:12:00] <XXCoder> really? mine was prety good. thankfully I have deburr kit
[03:12:05] <XXCoder> hole deburr and edge deburr
[03:13:52] <Loetmichel> Deejay: says the one that got a Tshirt from his wife yesterday that is reading "HUNGER!! (man schäle mir eine Kuh!)" (HUNGRY!!! someone peel me a cow!)... ;-)
[03:14:37] <Deejay> hrhr
[03:15:01] <Loetmichel> XXCoder: not that long ago THAT happened when i used a deburr hand tool: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16188&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 (caution, some blood)
[03:15:20] <XXCoder> heh ouch
[03:15:30] <XXCoder> I get cuts at work all time, though all minor
[03:15:44] <XXCoder> my most major was one where nail get though my hand and ripped out sideways
[03:15:51] <XXCoder> thankfully it did not get between any bones
[03:16:53] <XXCoder> oh crap attached stepper without attaching belt pulley
[03:16:58] <XXCoder> gonna remove it again
[03:17:46] <Loetmichel> XXCoder: you could see the thumb muscle move in the gash ;)
[03:18:11] <XXCoder> yeah mine was pinkie muscle and stuff
[03:18:34] <XXCoder> it dented my pinkie joint so it now moves bit jerky
[03:18:36] <Loetmichel> slipped off the edge of a aluminium plate, broke the dull tip of the tool in the process and then hit the palm
[03:18:43] <Loetmichel> didnt even hurt that much...
[03:18:53] <Loetmichel> but was a bit messy
[03:19:21] <Loetmichel> had to clean my workspace for about an hour when i got back from the ER (for the stitches)
[03:19:48] <Loetmichel> ... have now ordered one of these "skin staplers" for our first aid box ;)
[03:21:08] <XXCoder> heh my worse work injury is reaching out and acciently hit between my fingers mill tool that was in hold area. (it wasnt running, wouldnt have reached otherwise!)
[03:21:40] <XXCoder> it bled pretty good but thankfully didnt need do anything but bandage well. I now have scar between fingers that look like well lady part I guess
[04:24:22] <Loetmichel> *meh*. Its august... in germany... just got down to the cellar starting the heater on "winter mode"... its 18°c in here :-(
[05:57:25] <jthornton> yuck heavy rains for next 3 days and nights
[06:59:00] <XXCoder> I love how he does multicolor woods. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRCmQi8gqHg
[07:57:29] * Tom_itx looks out the window
[07:57:33] <Tom_itx> looks fine to me jthornton
[07:58:35] <Tom_itx> we got it yesterday though
[07:59:39] <Tom_itx> at least they got the roof on!
[08:01:29] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: they are done and gone
[08:15:33] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/images/equipment-shed/e-shed-20.jpg
[09:40:49] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, turned out nice
[09:41:59] <Tom_itx> are they coming back to hang the doors or is that on you?
[09:44:47] <JT-Shop> I'm putting in the garage door, they are easy to put up... but I have to do some wiring and insulate around it the put up some osb and corner trim then the garage door
[09:44:58] <JT-Shop> it should be in first of the week
[09:45:30] <Tom_itx> so when can i move in?
[09:46:21] <Tom_itx> XXCoder, nice video
[09:48:43] <Tom_itx> i wonder what cad he used
[09:55:24] <JT-Shop> anytime you want
[09:55:56] <Tom_itx> i say fooey on the equipment shed, let's fill it with cnc's and start making parts
[09:59:54] <SpeedEvil> Shed? Add x,y,z and make a 3d printer
[10:34:19] <JT-Shop> well moving shit out of here and the garage will give me space for making stuff
[10:56:17] <Tom_itx> i didn't realize the briggs plant was that close to you. it makes sense now
[11:07:13] <JT-Shop> yea, and funny enough we got a call from them to revisit a $330k quote we did 15 months ago
[11:07:29] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/images/equipment-shed/e-shed-21.jpg
[11:07:40] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/images/equipment-shed/e-shed-22.jpg
[11:07:54] <Tom_itx> you'll never see the floor again
[11:08:12] <JT-Shop> lol, there is still plenty left so far
[11:08:29] <JT-Shop> nap time
[11:08:35] <Tom_itx> did you wire that or is that temporary
[11:08:38] <Tom_itx> lighting
[11:08:45] <Tom_itx> for the workers
[11:09:05] <Tom_itx> i suppose most of what they did was outside anyway
[11:11:14] <FloppyDisk5_25> Needs one more electrical outlet:-)
[12:30:34] <JT-Shop> yea just some temp lights for me
[12:30:40] <JT-Shop> they didn't need lights
[12:36:08] <Guest_84847> Allah is doing
[12:36:16] <Guest_84847> sun is not doing Allah is doing
[12:36:21] <Guest_84847> moon is not doing Allah is doing
[12:36:29] <Guest_84847> stars are not doing Allah is doing
[12:36:33] <Tom_itx> Jymmmm
[12:36:36] <Guest_84847> planets are not doing Allah is doing
[12:36:45] <Guest_84847> galaxies are not doing Allah is doing
[12:37:00] <Guest_84847> oceans are not doing Allah is doing
[12:37:00] <Guest_84847> mountains are not doing Allah is doing
[12:37:04] <Guest_84847> trees are not doing Allah is doing
[12:37:09] <Guest_84847> mom is not doing Allah is doing
[12:47:25] <CaptHindsight> lotsa doin
[12:47:34] <JT-Shop> lol
[13:00:25] <Contract_Pilot> Hey all it's been a while
[13:12:35] <jesseg> howdy Contract_Pilot yeah from before my time :D
[13:13:31] <Contract_Pilot> Was up all night wiring mesa 7I76
[13:13:48] <jesseg> lol sounds like fun
[13:14:11] <jesseg> then you're all tired the next day. I call it a project hangover :P
[14:38:05] <dioz> any welders in here?
[14:38:18] <Deejay> grinder and paint make me the welder i ain't :)
[14:48:41] <nos> I'm a shitty welder!
[15:26:22] <jthornton> rains must be letting up a bit
[15:33:45] <FloppyDisk5_25> But, you're dry now:-)
[15:34:21] <jthornton> yea I'm down in the basement lol
[15:34:48] <jthornton> I've made some progress on the 2.8 configuration wizard interface if anyone wants to take a peek http://gnipsel.com/files/linuxcnc/2.8-config.zip
[15:45:15] <CaptHindsight> jthornton: any idea how to get an extra JOG slider in axis that only belongs to one axis?
[15:46:28] <JT-Shop> PyVCP
[15:46:40] <JT-Shop> or GladeVCP
[15:47:12] <CaptHindsight> ok, I was reading those docs
[15:47:35] <CaptHindsight> and of course they provide examples of everything but this :)
[15:47:57] <CaptHindsight> I'm sure it's similar to adding buttons
[15:50:17] <CaptHindsight> probably easier to find out how my Z axis stepper gets tied to the Jog slider and remove X and Y from it, since they will never be jogged
[16:04:09] <FloppyDisk5_25> Configuration wiz for what? For configuring mesa cards, it appears? Ie, I have a 7i92 and want to connect it to a chinese BOB or to a 7i77 and viola, right files?
[16:04:34] <FloppyDisk5_25> I did look at the zip, but didn't open it on my win7 machine.
[16:09:55] <jesseg> yeah I would be hard pressed to open a zip on my win7 file. Frankly I don't even like opening my win7 machine.:D
[16:21:02] <Frank_15> hi:D
[16:21:08] <jesseg> Howdy Frank
[16:26:13] <Deejay> gn8
[16:54:52] <Frank_15> guys whats the trade off, of having the 5i25 feeding 5v to the 7i76, instead of having a different source?
[17:02:54] <CaptHindsight> an extra power supply
[17:04:06] <JT-Shop> https://www.amazon.com/Super-Bright-Light-Indoor-Outdoor/dp/B01DZYKYK8/ref=sr_1_4?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1471123076&sr=1-4&keywords=led+area+light
[17:04:10] <JT-Shop> anyone use these
[17:04:29] <Frank_15> so basically nothing?? hehe
[17:04:40] <JT-Shop> Frank_15: you can use the 5i25 5v
[17:05:01] <Frank_15> yea, i thought so, but i wondered if there was a trade off
[17:05:45] <JT-Shop> not really, the only time you need a 5v power supply is if you have too much draw on the 5v on the daughter card
[17:08:46] <Frank_15> okey, how could i know how much is too much??
[17:12:27] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: never tried those, I use floods https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AXZM9ZU?psc=1 or build custom from the LED's https://www.amazon.com/CHANZON%C2%AE-Power-Floodlight-Spotlight-9000K-10000K/dp/B01DBZHW7E/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1471124256&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=100w+led&psc=1
[17:12:34] <JT-Shop> the manual has the specs
[17:13:24] <JT-Shop> does that need a heat sink?
[17:14:00] <CaptHindsight> the floods no, the LED's chips need a heatsink and a constant current power supply
[17:14:42] <JT-Shop> I missed that you had two links there
[17:14:59] <CaptHindsight> https://www.amazon.com/GLW-Waterproof-Driver-Supply-Energy/dp/B00WQX4NQG/ref=pd_sim_sbs_60_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=41mmCu70e0L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&psc=1&refRID=1R3MK3GWY9WJ97A8CA9S
[17:16:50] <JT-Shop> what do you use as a heat sink?
[17:16:53] <JT-Shop> for the chip
[17:18:08] <CaptHindsight> an x86 cpu heatsink works well or several sq in of aluminum sheet
[17:18:11] * JT-Shop "finds" a couple of 4 tube T8 fixtures behind the sheet stock... gonna be perfect for the work bench
[17:19:32] <JT-Shop> https://www.amazon.com/uxcell%C2%AE-Heatsink-Diffuse-Aluminium-Cooling/dp/B00BGAO2W0/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1471125075&sr=8-6&keywords=heat+sink
[17:19:39] <JT-Shop> maybe mount two to that
[17:20:11] <CaptHindsight> maybe 1 per if not using a fan
[17:20:20] <JT-Shop> ah ok
[17:20:49] <CaptHindsight> thats only about 5"x2" with 3/4" fins
[17:21:12] <Frank_15> lol, i forgot the 7i76 could receive 5-32vdc thats why i got confused with the 5i25 bypass of 5vdc, no jumper switchingggg
[17:22:08] <CaptHindsight> https://www.menards.com/main/maintenance-repair-operations/lighting-electrical/lighting/fluorescent-commercial-lights/american-fluorescent-48-white-2-light-t8-shop-light/p-1444423572360.htm
[17:22:21] <asolchen> hey guys, i'm trying to install 2.7 on an old coreDou. Is the OS x386 or AMD64?
[17:22:23] <CaptHindsight> hard to beat $11 for a 2 tube T8 shop light
[17:22:25] <JT-Shop> 8-32vdc
[17:23:12] <asolchen> It fails after loading install files to freshly formatted disk
[17:23:34] <JT-Shop> Frank_15: don't forget you need a 24vdc supply for your I/O
[17:24:05] <JT-Shop> asolchen: try an older OS like 8.4 or 10.04 LiveCD
[17:24:23] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/iso/
[17:24:51] * JT-Shop calls it a wet day and waddles inside
[17:25:33] <asolchen> can I use the new LinuxCNC?
[17:27:25] <JT-Shop> I'm running 3 machines on 10.04 with LinuxCNC 2.7
[17:27:35] <JT-Shop> 8 1/2" of rain today...
[17:28:17] <asolchen> ok. Is the 2.7 Debain iso a 64-bit os?
[17:34:27] <XXCoder> Tom_itx: yeah
[17:38:24] <pcw_home> asolchen: The wheezy LinuxCNC ISO is 32 bit
[17:38:43] <pcw_home> oops too slow
[17:41:43] <CaptHindsight> http://www.menards.com/main/maintenance-repair-operations/lighting-electrical/lighting/fluorescent-commercial-lights/metalux-reg-4-silver-3-lamp-t8-parabolic-troffer/p-1444427436129-c-7495.htm I also use these since they direct most of the light down
[17:47:33] <MarkusBec> asolchen: for 64bit you need a stock 64bit debian
[17:47:41] <MarkusBec> and install linuxcnc on it
[17:48:03] <asolchen> the pc is not a 64 bit
[17:48:43] <XXCoder> http://io9.gizmodo.com/kenny-baker-the-actor-who-brought-r2-d2-to-life-dies-1785245979 aw
[17:48:53] <pcw_home> Core Duo is 64 bit
[17:49:17] <MarkusBec> i think any pc sold after 2004 is 64 bit
[17:50:07] <asolchen> it might be a core2, I know I could not install 64bit ubuntu in the past but could use the x386 version
[17:50:07] <MarkusBec> 2007
[17:50:44] <pcw_home> The Wheezy ISO is 32 bit and probably the easiest way to get LinuxCNC running
[17:50:55] <dioz> can you weld galv iron sheet metal?
[17:55:33] <asolchen> thanks
[18:04:06] <Tom_itx> CaptHindsight, http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gui/pyvcp-examples.html 1/3 the way down
[18:08:11] <asolchen> FYI, I wrote to ISO to a USB stick instead of a DVD. Install is going fine now past the point it was failing with the disk.
[18:17:44] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, when i switched to leds i got a few brands to try just to see which ones would live
[18:18:08] <Tom_itx> i wouldn't commit to a whole shop full until you've tried one for a while.
[18:18:38] <Tom_itx> i got a regular 10 pack from costco some time back and i think they've all gone bad now
[18:18:49] <Tom_itx> i do like the daylight over yellow though for sure
[18:19:41] <Tom_itx> it's not the leds that go on those, it's the control inside
[18:20:43] <Tom_itx> z
[19:06:14] <CaptHindsight> Tom_itx: thanks found that yesterday, working on the custom M-codes as well
[19:13:54] <CaptHindsight> just about done https://ibin.co/2rTeUifVo4aE.jpg
[19:14:18] <XXCoder> cmm?
[19:14:33] <Tom_itx> what'd you work out for the drivers?
[19:14:45] <Tom_itx> since you can cook on the steppers
[19:15:31] <CaptHindsight> KL-4042's or KL-4030's, the ones in the pic are tb6600
[19:16:01] <Tom_itx> do those have idle current cutback?
[19:16:04] <CaptHindsight> the Z-stepper hits 100C after a few hours if left enabled while stopped
[19:16:39] <CaptHindsight> if they do it's not working, I have to check the datasheet to see if they have the feature of if the design just doesn't use it
[19:16:47] <CaptHindsight> of/or
[19:17:20] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: SLA printer (laser and galvo)
[19:17:38] <XXCoder> ahhh
[19:17:41] <XXCoder> nicr
[19:17:47] <CaptHindsight> the 7i77 is hiding behind it
[19:18:13] <XXCoder> I should have reconized the design
[19:18:45] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j68yT2hALQ8
[19:19:03] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: linuxcnc conversion of this http://us.xyzprinting.com/us_en/Product/Nobel-1.0
[19:19:57] <Tom_itx> why are you replacing the control?
[19:20:01] <CaptHindsight> $1000 on amazon or at wallymart
[19:20:02] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: you know the water feeder for cats? one where you use big tank of water and it keeps water same level
[19:20:10] <XXCoder> I bet it can be used for that type of printing too.
[19:20:20] <XXCoder> no electrics, it will always keep perfectly same level
[19:21:07] <XXCoder> I was surpised to see nobody used that, and it is near foolproof low tech
[19:21:28] <CaptHindsight> Tom_itx: they use RFID for the resins and the software doesn't support a wide range of cure rates
[19:21:59] <XXCoder> they want to make people pay more than blood for resin, just like ink printers
[19:22:18] <CaptHindsight> it's just a demo for a much larger project
[19:23:07] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: I have a resin company. I buy raw materials by the drum
[19:23:14] <XXCoder> nice
[19:23:33] <XXCoder> sometimes it seems to me that EVERYONE here that isnt me owns a biz lol
[19:23:39] <Tom_itx> good reason to switch
[19:23:41] <CaptHindsight> $40/kg for resin is comparable to PLA filament
[19:23:48] <malcom2073> Businesses are good business
[19:24:10] <XXCoder> found it https://media.boingboing.net/filesroot/200912301004.jpg
[19:24:12] <SpeedEvil> CaptHindsight: the big problem with resins bought like that is balancing the drum on the printer.
[19:24:49] <XXCoder> SpeedEvil: why not use same thing as water for cats thingy I menioned earlier?
[19:25:20] <XXCoder> add valve to bottle so can turn upside down and open after screw down
[19:25:22] <CaptHindsight> these consumer printers are like reprap, they just cure something vs make the printer work with a wide range of resins for finished products
[19:25:26] <SpeedEvil> XXCoder: that was a joke.
[19:25:40] <CaptHindsight> bah dum bum
[19:26:15] <XXCoder> lol ok though found image http://cdn.instructables.com/FZB/7Z68/HKZAWA9O/FZB7Z68HKZAWA9O.MEDIUM.jpg
[19:26:17] <XXCoder> homebrew
[19:26:32] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: i think the Form1/2in that vid is >$4k
[19:27:00] <XXCoder> machine in video is over $4,000? dang
[19:27:42] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: we do similar with large top projection printers, the tanks might hold 40L
[19:28:02] <XXCoder> hm just thought of bonus for design that uses that water refiller type... you can print objects that use more resin than tank contains
[19:28:31] <XXCoder> if you design sla printer thats 4 foot tall you need to use such lol
[19:28:56] <Tom_itx> CaptHindsight so this is for personal / inhouse use not a product
[19:29:28] <CaptHindsight> Tom_itx: it's actually for someone else as a demo unit for a larger project
[19:29:40] <Tom_itx> i see
[19:29:46] <CaptHindsight> it's easier to start with this tahn build from scratch for a demo
[19:30:11] <CaptHindsight> I'l post all the configs when it's done
[19:30:21] <XXCoder> curious what sla printed resin object strength is
[19:30:36] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: $3500 so a bit less
[19:30:53] <CaptHindsight> http://formlabs.com/store/us/form-2/buy-printer/?gclid=CPn_k8DNv84CFQKNaQodxZkNuA#buy-printer
[19:31:08] <XXCoder> weaker than say pla plastic printed object?
[19:31:24] <XXCoder> jeez
[19:31:26] <XXCoder> prices
[19:31:34] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: depending on the resin they can be similar to aluminum in flex modulus
[19:32:02] <CaptHindsight> yeah they are maybe $400 in parts
[19:32:14] <CaptHindsight> lots of stamped sheet metal
[19:32:20] <XXCoder> that video is why I reconized your machine I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2GiqXNIK4
[19:32:49] <CaptHindsight> the z-axis is a 8mmx1 lead screw and brass nut
[19:33:59] <CaptHindsight> heh, their tubing and fill pump would dissolve with some resins
[19:36:29] <CaptHindsight> Tom_itx: I thought that somebody had already posted all the configs for a laser SLA
[19:36:56] <XXCoder> so gonna clean in what looks like water
[19:37:13] <CaptHindsight> after this I'll work on the configs for a DLP version
[19:37:40] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: most likely isopropryl alcohol
[19:37:46] <CaptHindsight> or ethanol
[19:40:34] <Tom_itx> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/general-laser-engraving-cutting-machine-discussion/186700-software-forum.html
[19:40:37] <Tom_itx> engraving
[19:45:45] <CaptHindsight> galvo based may be for SLA, engraving or SLA (sintering)
[19:47:16] <CaptHindsight> andy has some rough configs and HAL for a DLP printer
[19:47:47] <CaptHindsight> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/26626-dlp-3d-printer-linux-cnc-customization
[19:48:50] <CaptHindsight> most DIYers use a duino with that awful Marlin firmware
[19:49:10] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MHuhcFQsBg nice!!
[19:57:43] <XXCoder> design is easy to do apparently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8yZKy5VHLM
[20:04:48] <malcom2073> Cool, totally doable
[20:04:52] <malcom2073> if I was into water features I'd try it
[20:05:35] <XXCoder> yeah
[20:05:47] <XXCoder> I do but I dont wanna have too much till own home outright
[20:31:29] <dioz> i need to be able to print out the multiple portions of a 3d letter
[20:31:34] <dioz> for example a A
[20:31:41] <dioz> front and back and sides
[20:31:46] <dioz> any ideas how i could do this?
[20:31:53] <dioz> all flat portions
[20:32:05] <XXCoder> cnc router?
[20:32:08] <dioz> so i can trace them onto something
[20:33:43] <Tom_itx> talk to a sign company
[20:35:44] <dioz> is tig welding better than mig?
[20:36:44] <Tom_itx> fusion is best
[20:37:34] <dioz> do people ever say they don't like asking you questions?
[20:38:05] <Tom_itx> never
[20:38:11] <Tom_itx> i don't like trolls either
[20:38:17] <XXCoder> could use few methods depends on what uou need
[20:38:21] <dioz> should probably just /quit irc then
[20:38:24] <XXCoder> you could use cnc router
[20:38:37] <Tom_itx> feel free
[20:38:38] <XXCoder> cut out inside potions so you can cut em or something
[20:38:45] <dioz> i'm not the one crying about trolls ;]
[20:38:48] <XXCoder> use thin connectors for holding inside elements
[20:38:56] <Tom_itx> i'm not the one acting like one
[20:39:03] <XXCoder> so you can easily "repair" or something
[20:39:34] * dioz hands Tom_itx some tissue paper
[20:39:46] <XXCoder> oh brother, both of ya
[20:40:07] <Tom_itx> XXCoder he's been over and over the welding thing... it's gettin kinda old
[20:40:29] <XXCoder> I went over cnc stuff many times too, does not mean troll, probably not smart like me
[20:40:46] <Tom_itx> repeating the same questions?
[20:40:57] <XXCoder> some of it yes
[20:41:13] <dioz> heh instead of being a little cry baby why not just /ignore
[20:41:20] <dioz> but then again most peopel aren't reasonable
[20:41:21] <Tom_itx> there is no 'better' when it comes to type of welding
[20:41:22] <XXCoder> dioz: whoa
[20:41:24] <Tom_itx> they all have a purpose
[20:42:53] <Tom_itx> and you've already asked about welding zinc plated metal
[20:43:44] <dioz> zinc plated?
[20:43:54] <XXCoder> galivized metal has zinc
[20:44:04] <XXCoder> weld on it and you risk zinc fever
[20:44:15] <Tom_itx> XXCoder don't bother
[20:44:27] <XXCoder> I will do as I will
[20:44:34] <Tom_itx> XXCoder bother
[20:45:23] <Tom_itx> he's well aware of the risk and seems quite willing to accept it
[20:45:29] <XXCoder> yeah
[20:45:36] <dioz> zinc plating and galv are two different things
[20:45:37] <dioz> TBH
[20:45:50] <dioz> but i'm not here to be a pedant
[20:45:56] <XXCoder> I dont do welding but if I ever do I wouldnt risk my lungs and stuff, my lungs is damaged enough
[20:46:09] <XXCoder> galivized has zinc in it. that aspect is same
[20:46:18] <XXCoder> I dont care about other differences
[20:46:19] <dioz> the application of the zinc is different
[20:46:25] <XXCoder> still has zinc/
[20:46:33] <Tom_itx> it's a rather moot point
[20:47:15] <dioz> not really moot
[20:47:16] <dioz> but okay
[20:48:16] <XXCoder> it still has zinc. you can get zinc fever from it
[20:48:32] <XXCoder> zinc used differently is STILL zinc. its not a component
[20:49:00] <dioz> application of zinc plate involves electricity
[20:49:10] <dioz> the application of galv involves simply dipping the hot product
[20:49:12] <XXCoder> and still is zinc.
[20:52:30] <dioz> how about terne coating?
[20:52:31] <Tom_itx> sheetcam may possibly be able to convert a 3d profile to a flat pattern, i dunno i've never used it
[20:52:48] <dioz> that's the word i was looking for
[20:52:50] <Tom_itx> i do know catia can take any complex surface and unroll it to a flat pattern
[20:52:54] <dioz> 3d profile to a flat pattern
[20:52:55] <XXCoder> ah bending?
[20:53:16] <dioz> i wanna be able to print out the pieces and trace them onto a piece of sheet metal than cut out the sheet metal
[20:53:19] <dioz> then weld the pieces together
[20:53:33] <Tom_itx> make them from cardboard and unroll it
[20:53:42] <dioz> currently i use a peewee strip to measure out my "Wrappers"
[20:53:50] <dioz> but i don't like that idea very much
[20:54:36] <Tom_itx> it's a simple matter of calculating the perimeter of the letter and any inside cutouts
[20:55:26] <dioz> you're right it is pretty simple
[20:55:39] <dioz> but when you change the font size those calculations need to be adjusted each time
[20:55:54] <dioz> it's just a matter of time is all
[21:17:31] <Polymorphism> zlog
[21:34:07] <jdh> making chips?
[21:36:52] <CaptHindsight> fun fun, have to add homing to a stepper motor with photointerrupter that does not move an axis
[21:58:40] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/temp/letters.jpg
[21:58:43] <Tom_itx> dioz
[21:58:48] <Tom_itx> there's your tin letter outline
[21:59:21] <skunkworks> zlog
[21:59:50] <Tom_itx> should do any truetype font
[22:00:00] <Tom_itx> any scale
[22:02:44] <dioz> i've been playing with freecad since we initially talked about it
[22:02:50] <dioz> i think i got something figured out
[22:03:07] <Tom_itx> then just unwrap the surface
[22:11:36] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/temp/letters2.jpg
[22:11:41] <Tom_itx> or remove them from a block
[22:17:32] <Contract_Pilot> Evening we morning for me did an all nighter wirting
[22:17:46] <Contract_Pilot> wiring controller
[23:07:10] <Contract_Pilot> Trying to getpath pilot going.