#linuxcnc | Logs for 2016-07-17

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[00:54:12] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfBkddVJksw
[02:32:37] <Deejay> moin
[04:57:33] <jthornton> morning
[04:58:49] <XXCoder> hey
[05:18:59] <holymoly> g
[07:23:43] <KreAture_Zzz> Hurray, finally figured out indexing in fusion 360 with 4'th axis. The biggest problem for me was actually the stock. As a cylinder it always created it along z. Making it from solid worked.
[07:24:15] <KreAture_Zzz> Most important is to get the axis correctly lined up so it tries to index the 4'th along the right axis or you get into trouble.
[07:24:18] <KreAture_Zzz> :)
[07:35:25] <archivist> I hand code for the 4/5th axes
[11:10:51] <Frank_12> helloooo
[12:11:26] <TurBoss> Hi
[12:13:28] <tecdroid> hi
[12:16:32] <TurBoss> ive pulled latest master from github and compile it with uspace because no rt kernel here only for sim
[12:16:42] <TurBoss> but when i pick my config it throws
[12:16:43] <TurBoss> http://dpaste.com/23XCHX5
[12:16:58] <TurBoss> working last week
[12:39:53] <dgarr> TurBoss: Two questions: 1) are you starting from a desktop shortcut when it fails, 2)do you have a deb package install and a rip build simultaneously?
[12:47:11] <TurBoss> dgarr: Ive built the source with make and the run the script in scripts
[12:47:16] <TurBoss> not make install or deb
[12:47:32] <TurBoss> then*
[12:48:32] <dgarr> TurBoss: 1) are you starting from a desktop shortcut when it fails?
[12:48:37] <TurBoss> no
[12:49:00] <dgarr> what does this say please: $ dpkg -l "linuxcnc*"
[12:49:35] <TurBoss> no packet
[12:50:44] <TurBoss> dpkg-query: no se ha encontrado ningĂșn paquete que corresponda con linuxcnc*.
[12:51:32] <dgarr> what does this say" $ which linuxcnc
[12:52:10] <TurBoss> nothing
[12:53:21] <tecdroid> F**k, managed to connect my cnc pc to internet after a year and wanted to update to precise.. update-manager hangs when it tells me that lucid isn't supported anymore
[12:53:34] <dgarr> what is the name of the toplevel directory of your rip install
[12:54:02] <tecdroid> what would i have to save for a complete re-install?
[12:54:33] <TurBoss> ~/linuxcnc-sim/linuxcnc/scripts
[12:54:39] <TurBoss> is that what you mean?
[12:56:12] <pcw_home> tecdroid: Lucid was EOLed April 2015
[12:56:50] <tecdroid> i know.. i installed it from linuxcnc image, back in 2014
[12:57:43] <dgarr> the toplevel would then be ~/linuxcnc-sim/linuxcnc (which is not standard naming). You should do: $ source ~/linuxcnc/linuxcnc/scripts/rip-environment
[12:57:48] <dgarr> then $ which linuxcnc
[12:59:14] <tecdroid> seems i have to update the debian way by directly editing the sources.list.. ?
[12:59:17] <pcw_home> If you dont need to update the OS you can just update linuxcnc to the latest
[12:59:29] <TurBoss> dgarr working
[13:00:23] <tecdroid> dunno if this is a linuxcnc issue or an os issue but window background disappears sometimes.. ever tried to read a completely transparent pulldown menue?
[13:00:58] <TurBoss> thx!
[13:01:03] <pcw_home> sounds like a graphic driver issue
[13:03:48] <tecdroid> maybe i should try to get a newer pc, too ^^
[13:33:16] <CaptHindsight> what will it take to write a converter for these json files to g-code? http://mix.bio/protocols/p10s
[13:33:54] <CaptHindsight> http://mix.bio/protocols/p10s/download
[13:38:30] <cpresser> CaptHindsight: my guess would be ~100lines if python code
[13:39:06] <CaptHindsight> https://opentrons.com/ the used a smoothieboard vs a PC
[13:39:30] <CaptHindsight> so their files have to be converted
[13:39:38] <KreAa> Anyone used indexing (4th) with fusion 360?
[13:41:12] <CaptHindsight> cpresser: a smoothie can't be expanded to deal with cameras, lasers, more axis etc
[13:41:34] <cpresser> CaptHindsight: smoothie?
[13:42:16] <t12> lol @ ghetto fluid handling
[13:42:23] <CaptHindsight> smoothieboard http://smoothieware.org/smoothieboard NXP LPC 1768/9 32-bits Cortex-M3 MCU motion control board
[13:42:33] <CaptHindsight> t12: yup
[13:42:52] <CaptHindsight> so now I have to make them with Linuxcnc
[13:42:53] <cpresser> i dont think so. that lpc does not have enought power
[13:42:58] <cpresser> afaik it lacks a fpu
[13:43:07] <CaptHindsight> cpresser: I know, what I was saying
[13:43:08] <cpresser> and only runs with around 100Mhz
[13:43:20] <t12> i dont thibk linuxcnc is a good fit
[13:43:28] <t12> maybe i dont understand it embedded
[13:43:30] <CaptHindsight> it's a toy so I have to make them with a proper controller
[13:44:18] <CaptHindsight> t12: we need a general purpose cartesian robot for fluid handling
[13:44:58] <CaptHindsight> that will move syringes, inkjet, cameras, lasers etc
[13:46:01] <CaptHindsight> t12: it looks like I have to build everything
[13:46:27] <t12> im doing a ctrl system for one of thisr soon
[13:46:29] <t12> again
[13:46:32] <tecdroid> can someone tell me if a parallel interface card (pci) works for cnc?
[13:46:43] <t12> same work over and over
[13:47:00] <archivist> tecdroid, some work
[13:47:13] <tecdroid> oh.. fine.. which ones? CD
[13:47:19] <tecdroid> :-p
[13:47:41] <archivist> it depends on what you are doing as well
[13:47:55] <CaptHindsight> the LPT card on my desk works :)
[13:48:04] <CaptHindsight> got it from China for $10
[13:48:22] <t12> do you have to do it cheap
[13:49:12] <CaptHindsight> t12: the fluid handling?
[13:50:16] <CaptHindsight> t12: the current options are ordering from Parker and paying $30k for the same simple robot
[13:50:26] <CaptHindsight> so there is plenty of margin :)
[13:50:41] <t12> production or oneoff
[13:50:49] <CaptHindsight> yeah
[13:50:53] <t12> r&d wetlab work or repetition
[13:51:47] <CaptHindsight> Linuxcnc isn't a perfect fit but it's a good start
[13:53:05] <CaptHindsight> I've been talking about extensions to comedi and automation for a while
[13:53:34] <CaptHindsight> adding on vs fork
[13:55:55] <tecdroid> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EMC2_Supported_Hardware <-- netmos adapter cards..
[13:58:38] <CaptHindsight> tecdroid: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Parallel-Port-DB25-LPT-Printer-to-PCI-E-PCI-Express-Card-Adapter-Converter-/170992964709
[13:58:44] <CaptHindsight> I use these ^^^
[14:00:05] * KreAa is still not getting fusion 360 to output the right coordinates
[14:00:57] <renesis> you have to setup origin location and axis orientation in setup
[14:01:09] <renesis> i kind of like how fusion 360 handles that part
[14:01:13] <tecdroid> CaptHindsight, didn't find them in Germany
[14:02:50] <CaptHindsight> tecdroid: yes, they are in China
[14:03:15] <CaptHindsight> requires shipping :)
[14:04:28] <tecdroid> found one on amazon prime..
[14:06:44] <zeeshan> https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13697227_1051973378211952_4858508766617343425_n.jpg?oh=6325385f1c290c62f7f926e86bce2142&oe=58215DE7
[14:06:46] <zeeshan> gotta love car people
[14:06:51] <zeeshan> showing pictures of their machining
[14:06:57] <zeeshan> holy roughness
[14:09:12] <KreAa> renesis: I have done so but I keep getting this as preview on my gcode viewer: http://i.imgur.com/J2Aa3ZA.png
[14:09:55] <renesis> no idea what is going on there
[14:10:28] <KreAa> renesis: have tried both a setup with a single dimple with repetitions around, and another with 5 seperate pockets that have coordinate systems fixed to the axis of the holes
[14:10:40] <KreAa> It does the ritght A commands to turn the index
[14:10:59] <KreAa> but it still outputs the motion relative to the same coordinates
[14:11:23] <KreAa> It doesn't appear to override the setup when stepping around, or creating local systems
[14:11:53] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: better grip for the head gaskets
[14:11:59] <zeeshan> lol
[14:12:08] <KreAa> I was expecting to see the same pocket command data being repeated with same exact coordinates, and with a A command between each set, but this is like a 5 axis robot
[14:12:20] <renesis> kreaa: maybe thats how it visualized the multi axis cuts?
[14:12:35] <renesis> not sure how it does 4th axis
[14:12:37] <KreAa> renesis: I checked the coords in the gcode and it is not
[14:12:43] <renesis> fucked
[14:12:47] <KreAa> I can delete all A commands and preview it, and it looks the same
[14:12:49] <KreAa> yup
[14:12:59] <KreAa> something is wrong and it's probably the setup or something
[14:13:00] <KreAa> hehe
[14:13:13] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: is that a 4 cyl head or the block? How did they get it to seal??
[14:13:15] <KreAa> I am using a modified linuxcnc post with added a axis
[14:13:47] <renesis> capthindsight: it prob looks much worse than it feels, shrug
[14:14:31] <CaptHindsight> flatness to < 0.1"
[14:14:53] <zeeshan> i doubt its going to seal
[14:14:55] <zeeshan> thats terrible
[14:14:59] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/PMTJGOu.jpg
[14:15:02] <zeeshan> this is what mine looked like
[14:15:03] <zeeshan> for mls gasket
[14:15:09] <zeeshan> ra 5 um or something.
[14:15:15] <zeeshan> 15
[14:15:16] <zeeshan> 5
[14:15:16] <zeeshan> i forget
[14:15:17] <zeeshan> :P
[14:15:18] <CaptHindsight> well on the other hand you can't say it's warped since that is unmeasurable now
[14:15:26] <renesis> right but thats prob not just milling
[14:15:28] <malcom2073> KreAa: That image you pasted looks right for 5 pockets equally spaced around an A axis
[14:15:44] <KreAa> malcom2073: yes but only if you have a robot arm moving
[14:15:59] <malcom2073> Or if you have a part in a 4th axis rotating
[14:16:03] <KreAa> The preview is from gcode reader that does not take into account the local rotations
[14:16:42] <malcom2073> The preview for 4th axis doesn't act as you would expect I've found. It shows you what the final tool path movements would be in relation to the part, not in relation to the machine
[14:16:47] <KreAa> The correct preview for a 3+1 machine with a axis indexed is for the cuts to all line up ontop of eachother as it does not display rotated coordinatesystems
[14:17:02] <malcom2073> You'd have to modify Axis to have it display in that way heh
[14:17:11] <KreAa> no malcom2073 this is not axis
[14:17:30] <KreAa> this is a gcode viewer that does NOT know about A axis and subsequent transforms
[14:17:32] <malcom2073> So whatever software you're using
[14:17:48] <malcom2073> Oh, so your gcode generation is doing that?
[14:17:51] <KreAa> I tried running this code malcom2073and it cuts first pocket correctly and then drives tool into stock sideways for next
[14:17:57] <malcom2073> ahh gotcha
[14:18:03] <malcom2073> Well that's crazy heh
[14:18:22] <malcom2073> What's your CAM?
[14:18:28] <KreAa> It rotates the axis, but instead of then trying to cut next pocket at center of old one it tries to cut one down and to the left
[14:18:34] <KreAa> I use fusion 360
[14:18:41] <malcom2073> Ah, not familiar with it, sorry.
[14:18:42] <KreAa> with linuxcnc post adjusted with extra a
[14:18:50] <KreAa> It's funky
[14:18:56] <malcom2073> Seems so
[14:20:16] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: https://ibin.co/2oOkYVwUaAue.jpg my last one
[14:20:29] <zeeshan> looks a lot better
[14:20:37] <zeeshan> single point is the way to go
[14:20:46] <zeeshan> dunno wtf they faced with (end mill?)
[14:21:05] <CaptHindsight> 80K miles and holding well
[14:21:10] * KreAa copies the setup, and creates a pocket operation for next pocket in that setup, moving the rotation to the setup
[14:21:11] <zeeshan> CaptHindsight: have you used liquid n2 before
[14:21:13] <zeeshan> from a dewar
[14:21:18] <CaptHindsight> yeah
[14:21:21] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/TN7C9vo.jpg
[14:21:24] <KreAa> now the pocket is being done in normal top down to the wcs of the setup
[14:21:27] <zeeshan> i have the lne connected to the liquid side
[14:21:32] * KreAa exports and compares the two
[14:21:38] <zeeshan> logically it doesnt make sense
[14:21:44] <zeeshan> the liquid can go up to the environmental chamber cause
[14:21:48] <zeeshan> of gravity..
[14:22:12] <zeeshan> i dont see to be getting liquid coming out @ the env chamber
[14:22:41] <KreAa> haha!
[14:22:48] <KreAa> Both pockets look identical on preview!
[14:23:15] <KreAa> BUT, looking at code I se A0 on both too!
[14:23:36] <KreAa> So, it is really fucking up hehe
[14:23:52] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: I'd have to see where everything is
[14:24:07] <zeeshan> the hose inlet
[14:24:13] <zeeshan> is where the picture cuts off.. at the env chamber
[14:24:36] <CaptHindsight> is the chamber on the table, above the height of the dewar
[14:24:40] <CaptHindsight> ?
[14:24:41] <zeeshan> yes
[14:24:50] <zeeshan> to me it makes no sense to have it like that.
[14:24:55] <KreAa> I better get on home
[14:24:59] <zeeshan> its like pumping water above.
[14:25:04] <CaptHindsight> yes
[14:25:04] <KreAa> Now I know what to look for in the setup atleast
[14:25:07] <zeeshan> but these guys are saying its at 15psi
[14:25:14] <zeeshan> so it should pump up.
[14:25:15] <CaptHindsight> is it?
[14:25:16] <zeeshan> i dont think so.
[14:25:23] <CaptHindsight> probably not
[14:25:32] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: do everything yourself
[14:25:37] <CaptHindsight> check it all
[14:25:48] <zeeshan> i tried
[14:26:00] <zeeshan> i put the exit of the hose lower than the dewar
[14:26:03] <zeeshan> and i got liquid shooting out
[14:26:14] <zeeshan> they dont believ eme
[14:26:14] <zeeshan> lol
[14:26:24] <CaptHindsight> heh
[14:26:29] <zeeshan> doing masters is prolly the worst decision ive ever made in my life
[14:26:33] <CaptHindsight> tell them to look at the outlet
[14:26:45] <CaptHindsight> well don't
[14:26:51] <Jymmm> Works really nice... and a 20% off coupon today only magnetic sweeper http://www.harborfreight.com/17-in-mini-magnetic-sweeper-62704.html coupon on front page http://www.harborfreight.com/
[14:27:02] <CaptHindsight> not without safety gear
[14:27:20] <CaptHindsight> "hey look in this tube for me" :)
[14:27:23] <zeeshan> lol
[14:28:48] <CaptHindsight> maybe they meant atmospheric pressure vs atmospheric + 15 psi
[14:29:53] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: just go through the motions and get out
[14:30:13] <zeeshan> hehe
[14:30:24] <CaptHindsight> it's all nuts
[14:34:01] <XXCoder> "hold my beer and..."
[14:34:51] <XXCoder> Jymmm: not bad
[14:35:21] <Jymmm> XXCoder: out the door was under $9
[14:35:35] <Tom_itx> zeeshan not mastering the master?
[14:35:44] <zeeshan> my supervisor is an idiot
[14:35:45] <XXCoder> what tgime do they close
[14:35:46] <zeeshan> :P
[14:35:58] <Jymmm> XXCoder: look on the website for your area
[14:36:03] <Tom_itx> i question how they get that position
[14:36:08] <zeeshan> same
[14:36:13] <Tom_itx> what you been up to?
[14:36:17] <XXCoder> 8 pm
[14:36:17] <zeeshan> guy has never touched a lab equipment
[14:36:18] <zeeshan> in his life
[14:36:19] <zeeshan> lol
[14:36:24] <zeeshan> clueless
[14:36:44] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: just graduate
[14:36:50] <Tom_itx> better dust off your lathe, seems pete is soon to be moved in...
[14:36:51] <zeeshan> trying to
[14:36:51] <zeeshan> :P
[14:37:14] <zeeshan> tom one day
[14:37:15] <zeeshan> :P
[14:37:22] <CaptHindsight> <--- needs new lab space
[14:37:25] <zeeshan> im too busy working on the car :)
[14:37:31] <Tom_itx> rx?
[14:37:33] <zeeshan> ya
[14:37:36] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/out1JJS.jpg
[14:37:40] <zeeshan> its all pretty much done
[14:37:43] <zeeshan> finishing up the exhaust
[14:37:50] <zeeshan> i drove it without the exhaust, its frigging fast
[14:37:51] <zeeshan> :)
[14:38:06] <Tom_itx> you'll just go tear it up when it's done. don't rush it
[14:38:21] <zeeshan> im so happy i can move it in and out of the garage now
[14:38:21] <zeeshan> :)
[14:38:25] <zeeshan> its like i doubled my garage space
[14:38:26] <zeeshan> haha
[14:38:31] <XXCoder> yeah engine do need time to settle down
[14:38:37] <Tom_itx> image didn't load here
[14:38:38] <XXCoder> 500 miles of easy going driving
[14:38:48] <zeeshan> XXCoder: thats a bunch of bs
[14:38:50] <zeeshan> :P
[14:39:01] <Tom_itx> finally..
[14:39:07] <Tom_itx> twin turbo
[14:39:18] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/l5SrlgM.jpg
[14:39:20] <zeeshan> its so shiny
[14:39:26] <zeeshan> you can see the clouds clearly
[14:39:40] <zeeshan> and a small bug sitting on the hood
[14:39:43] <zeeshan> if you look closely
[14:39:44] <zeeshan> :)
[14:40:20] <zeeshan> honestly this summer ive been going out a lot
[14:40:24] <zeeshan> but the plan is to work on the lathe in the winter
[14:40:25] <zeeshan> i really do need it
[14:40:36] <zeeshan> had to give my friend a big lathe job
[14:51:10] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, how'd the 2nd batch of vape thingies come out?
[14:51:35] <Tom_itx> iirc you were making a new jig for em
[14:56:35] <Frank_12> :)
[14:57:10] <KreAture_Zzz> haha! I solved the Fusion 360 rotation issue!
[14:57:42] <Tom_itx> nice
[14:57:53] <KreAture_Zzz> IN addition to setting up the extra axis, you need to change the tcp = true line to tcp = false so that it understands it has to transform the rest of the ccords after turning the axis
[14:58:22] <KreAture_Zzz> The preview of my 5 pocket operation will then, in a normal xyz machine with a indexer look like 5 cuts in the same pocket from top via z
[14:58:30] <Tom_itx> part of a script?
[14:58:41] <KreAture_Zzz> since the workpiece is rotated before each operation however, it looks correct when cut
[14:58:54] <KreAture_Zzz> part of the post processing script in fusion yes
[14:59:08] <Tom_itx> wondered if it was in the post..
[15:01:08] <zeeshan> Tom_itx: done a long time ago
[15:01:15] <zeeshan> man its been a while since ive been typing in here
[15:01:16] <zeeshan> lol
[15:01:30] <Tom_itx> it has
[15:01:35] <Tom_itx> you should check in more often
[15:01:45] <zeeshan> every weekend except this one
[15:01:47] <zeeshan> ive been gone
[15:01:50] <zeeshan> or working on the car :P
[15:02:02] <zeeshan> im gone from july 22nd to aug 1
[15:02:06] <zeeshan> er july 23
[15:02:19] <Frank_12> where u going
[15:02:36] <zeeshan> https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/Mount+Hope,+Hamilton,+ON/Cape+Breton+Island/data=!4m8!4m7!1m2!1m1!1s0x882c902dd8c6946d:0x4694566cb6c75458!1m2!1m1!1s0x4b681cb852711fed:0x3e1469e4521d2713!3e0
[15:02:36] <Frank_12> (maybe its private) idk
[15:03:13] <Tom_itx> gonna try another road trip ehh?
[15:03:18] <zeeshan> yea!
[15:03:22] <zeeshan> more off roading :D
[15:03:43] <Tom_itx> i looked at a tacoma the other day
[15:03:57] <Frank_12> looks like quite a ride
[15:04:13] <zeeshan> i have respect for the tacoma after the last road trip
[15:04:19] <zeeshan> we went thru 9" high rocks
[15:04:22] <Frank_12> here we host the dakar quite often :D
[15:04:27] <zeeshan> give you an idea, we moved 1.5 mile in 2 hours
[15:04:28] <zeeshan> lol
[15:04:43] <zeeshan> my friends 220k mile tacoma made the trip no problem
[15:05:01] <zeeshan> Frank_12: you are in south america?
[15:05:17] <Frank_12> yes sir
[15:05:21] <zeeshan> awesome dude
[15:05:27] <zeeshan> i'd love to get to argentina by road one day
[15:05:31] <zeeshan> but ill prolly get killed in mexico
[15:05:40] <Frank_12> lol
[15:05:51] <zeeshan> might have to ship over the truck
[15:06:06] <Frank_12> amazing (looking at google earth maps) how the world is connected throu internet
[15:06:15] <Frank_12> i must have said that 20 times, it still amazes me
[15:06:20] <Frank_12> and im quite youngh
[15:06:39] <zeeshan> hehe
[15:06:43] <zeeshan> id love to go down there
[15:06:50] <zeeshan> chile and argentina are BEAUTIFUL!
[15:08:40] <Frank_12> we have a bit of everything heh
[15:08:45] <Frank_12> the bad and the good
[15:08:52] <zeeshan> i watched the motorcycle diaries
[15:08:55] <zeeshan> excellent movie
[15:09:54] <vjanos> Hi All
[15:09:57] <Frank_12> hehe, so far i've only spoken to a canadian live on San Andres, colombia. when we were on vacations
[15:09:58] <Tom_itx> on any sunday
[15:10:02] <Frank_12> u speak french?
[15:10:21] <zeeshan> no
[15:10:29] <zeeshan> je ne parle pas francais
[15:10:30] <zeeshan> :P
[15:10:30] <vjanos> Could someone please send me a download link to LinuxCNC 2.7.5 iso ?
[15:10:42] <vjanos> I feel like a noob, but can't find the link to it...
[15:10:56] <zeeshan> brb
[15:11:19] <Tom_itx> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/getting-linuxcnc.html
[15:11:53] <vjanos> Thanks Tom. But the link on that page points to 2.7 if I'm not mistaken
[15:12:12] <Tom_itx> i'm not sure i have the dev links
[15:14:03] <vjanos> Maybe I get it wrong... but based on the announcement on the main page, I thought 2.7.5 is the most recent version.
[15:14:19] <vjanos> Perhaps it's not available yet? :O
[15:14:38] <vjanos> But in the texts, I see "All 2.7 users are encouraged to upgrade."
[15:14:47] <Tom_itx> http://linuxcnc.org/iso/
[15:15:01] <Tom_itx> that's all available
[15:15:17] <vjanos> Hmm, found this as well
[15:15:30] <vjanos> but the timestamps show files from 2012 :D
[15:19:20] <FloppyDisk> If you install the ISO disk, I think it will upgrade to the 2.7.x. Also, the iso disk would be 'one' of the versions 2.7.x and maybe not '5'.
[15:19:41] <FloppyDisk> Clarify - the disk won't upgrade, but the update manager of debian will update, if/as needed...
[15:19:53] <Tom_itx> vjanos, no 2.7.5 iso is available. you need to just do an update
[15:20:26] <vjanos> Ok, thanks guys!
[15:21:32] <vjanos> I wanted to install it to a machine without internet connection. But in worst case I'll move it to a covered area :)
[15:21:42] <vjanos> Thanks again for your help!
[15:24:50] <Tom_itx> major releases are iso, the rest are just updates
[15:30:08] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: that map is wrong it shows km vs miles
[15:31:57] <CaptHindsight> https://goo.gl/maps/3JUfhDUAu8z here's a fixed map :)
[15:42:34] <zeeshan> lol
[16:39:43] <Deejay> gn8
[16:53:51] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/images/equipment-shed/big-dig-17.jpg
[17:00:25] <malcom2073> JT-Shop: Looks like you're having lots of fun!
[17:01:19] <JT-Shop> actually getting tired of digging and looking forward to the finish line which I hope to be tomorrow
[17:03:58] <JT-Shop> got my 34.25 long part CAM done for my X=18" VMC lol
[19:21:05] <t12> http://imgur.com/lYoEh6A
[19:21:11] <t12> what is that called?
[19:22:16] <zeeshan> gerotor
[19:22:38] <t12> thanks!
[19:22:49] <zeeshan> np :]
[19:27:30] <Tom_itx> rotary pump
[20:49:59] * tiwake pokes BeachBumPete
[21:00:13] <BeachBumPete> hello
[21:36:17] <XXCoder> hey BUM
[21:36:20] <XXCoder> whats up there
[21:37:52] <BeachBumPete> meh not much
[21:43:30] <BeachBumPete> anybody got an idea how I could take a .PDF file, open it, sign it, and then save it and email it somewhere? The .PDF does not appear to be setup for secure signing... UGHHHh
[21:44:01] <XXCoder> BeachBumPete: yeah I don't know either and I need to do that.
[21:45:01] <BeachBumPete> ok thanks
[21:45:23] <XXCoder> well seem they accepted my edited pdf file
[21:45:36] <XXCoder> I used inkscape to create my signture, photoshopped it into picture in pdf
[21:47:01] <Tom_itx> BeachBumPete you have a scanner?
[21:47:44] <BeachBumPete> yeah I have a scanner but the printer part is out of damn ink as usual, its my moms LOL
[21:47:58] <XXCoder> you dont need ink for this
[21:48:06] <XXCoder> sign a paper, scan it
[21:48:16] <XXCoder> photoshop it into document
[21:48:18] <BeachBumPete> well I was planning to print the whole damn thing and sign it then scan it back
[21:48:30] <Tom_itx> yeah that's what i was gonna suggest
[21:48:37] <BeachBumPete> I'm not real good with photoshop
[21:48:49] <BeachBumPete> not even sure I have it on this PC hehe
[21:49:11] <Tom_itx> my printer will scan to pdf
[21:49:13] <XXCoder> well you could do it same way I did, just sign using inkscape, export it to good size, photoshop it in
[21:49:44] <XXCoder> signture background would be transparent so its just matter of exporting to right size and positioning it
[21:53:28] <BeachBumPete> Well I just am now trying to scan to this wireless printer. I need to download some software apparently hang on..
[21:54:02] <Tom_L> http://www.howtogeek.com/164668/how-to-electronically-sign-documents-without-printing-and-scanning-them/
[21:54:44] <Tom_itx> try that
[21:55:40] <XXCoder> adobe ugh
[21:56:24] <XXCoder> one of things I love inkscape is that can draw "like pen" using certain line mode drawing
[21:56:36] <XXCoder> so it looks like signture and not mess of mouse drawn
[21:57:02] <Tom_itx> you could probably get the signature file using your smartphone and save it to a file since it has touchscreen
[21:59:29] <BeachBumPete> reading it now
[22:01:26] <Tom_itx> plenty of apps for digital signature on your phone
[22:10:24] <BeachBumPete> I think I might have found from that link how to Esign the doccument even tho it was not originally setup for it. Thanks Tom
[22:12:08] <Tom_itx> np
[22:12:22] <BeachBumPete> appreciate it
[22:27:11] <zeeshan> man
[22:27:15] <zeeshan> im having dash cam fun
[22:27:22] <zeeshan> finally i can capture ppl being jerks :D
[22:27:30] <zeeshan> seems to happen a lot during rush hour
[22:28:56] <XXCoder> coool
[22:29:12] <zeeshan> =]
[22:31:14] <XXCoder> whats you use anyway
[22:33:42] <zeeshan> g1w-c
[22:34:20] <XXCoder> not bad
[22:34:30] <XXCoder> how long can it record
[22:34:35] <zeeshan> it loops
[22:34:41] <zeeshan> it captures 5 min sections
[22:34:55] <zeeshan> then after like 5 hours at 1080p, (32gb sd card)
[22:35:00] <zeeshan> it overwrites
[22:35:48] <XXCoder> can connect and copy videos?
[22:36:54] <zeeshan> yea
[22:36:58] <XXCoder> cool
[22:37:08] <XXCoder> I plan to evenually drive around usa
[22:37:20] <zeeshan> would be nice to take with you
[22:37:21] <zeeshan> :)
[22:37:26] <zeeshan> thats part of the reason i got it also
[22:37:42] <zeeshan> capture some serious off roading
[22:37:43] <zeeshan> :)
[22:37:48] <XXCoder> not me
[22:37:52] <XXCoder> just on road trip
[22:44:33] <XXCoder> jeez. https://i.imgur.com/hjabkl.jpg
[22:44:41] <XXCoder> site says it stays alive for month or 2
[22:44:51] <XXCoder> its just awful
[23:03:39] <CaptHindsight> t12: those are round metal things with fancy cutouts, like for cookies
[23:15:00] <XXCoder> hmm
[23:15:08] <XXCoder> anyone use toothpaste with NovaMin ?
[23:15:11] <XXCoder> any good>?