#linuxcnc | Logs for 2016-07-07

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[01:20:18] <enleth> https://youtu.be/EbMAOXIZ5FI got a proof it works, now I can gut it
[03:44:07] <Deejay> moin
[04:38:32] <XXCoder> tiwake: ya wake?
[05:15:02] <jthornton> morning
[05:15:08] <XXCoder> hey
[08:12:38] <enleth> do you know if leadshine makes stepper drives that are controlled like servo drives, with an analog signal?
[08:54:35] <MattyMatt> http://www.leadshine.com/productdetail.aspx?type=products&category=stepper-products&producttype=stepper-drives&series=DM&model=DM805-AI
[08:54:39] <Loetmichel_> hmm, i need a tip: HSS tools (mill bits) used for sheet aluminum (not anodized)... Blank, TiN or TiAlN coated?
[08:54:41] <MattyMatt> enleth^
[08:55:23] <MattyMatt> Loetmichel_, have you tried those cheap ones off ebay ? I got a set and they seem crispy sharp
[08:55:23] <Tom_itx> Ti would probably wear better
[08:56:06] <Loetmichel_> Tom_itx: i heard that TiN and aluminium are not friends
[08:56:10] <MattyMatt> http://www.ebay.com/itm/5Pcs-HSS-CNC-Straight-Shank-4-Flute-End-Mill-Cutter-Drill-Bit-Tool-4-6-8-10-12mm-/221870128705
[08:56:31] <MattyMatt> so cheap you can afford to use them up
[08:56:38] <Tom_itx> if you're dong alot of em, i'd get carbide
[08:56:44] <Tom_itx> doing*
[08:57:04] <Tom_itx> and in aluminum i'd use 2flute not 4
[08:57:09] <Tom_itx> 4 will load up
[08:59:23] <MattyMatt> the flutes are deep on these cheapies
[09:00:05] <MattyMatt> HSS-AL is apparently a chinese formulation when they ran out of vanadium or sth
[09:00:21] <MattyMatt> so it has alu in it
[09:00:45] <Loetmichel_> i amm using carbi9de atm
[09:01:09] <Loetmichel_> i thought abiout getting a set of 3 flute hss ones for general aluminium work
[09:01:34] <Loetmichel_> but i have to option to get them blank, TiN and TiAlN coated
[09:01:44] <Loetmichel_> and wanted to know which is best for Al
[09:01:55] <MattyMatt> I got these cheapies to replace a carbide one that alu tore a tooth off
[09:02:04] <MattyMatt> but that was chatter, not the alu
[09:03:15] <_methods> i use uncoated 2fl carbide for alum
[09:03:38] <_methods> aluminum will just eat the coating
[09:04:02] <_methods> uncoated 2 or 3fl carbide depending on the part
[09:04:26] <Loetmichel_> pk, uncoated it is
[09:04:28] <Loetmichel_> thanks
[09:04:30] <Loetmichel_> ok
[09:04:59] <_methods> http://www.harveytool.com/cms/CoatingsChart_16.aspx
[09:05:07] <_methods> apparently zrn coating works on alum
[09:05:11] <_methods> i've never tried that before though
[09:05:14] <_methods> and tib2
[09:05:32] <MattyMatt> and wd40. replace often
[09:15:40] <tiwake> _methods: poke
[09:16:21] <_methods> yo
[09:16:43] <tiwake> _methods: flying out to texas today, going to talk with a guy giving me a job offer
[09:16:51] <_methods> wut
[09:16:53] <_methods> nice
[09:17:15] <tiwake> going out late, will see him tomorrow
[09:17:22] <_methods> was on the road all day yesterday pickin up the 2 haas tm1's we got at auction
[09:17:45] <_methods> that was one weird auction company
[09:17:51] <_methods> they had no control over the place
[09:17:54] <_methods> and only 2 guys there
[09:18:18] <_methods> people were stealing stuff from lots all over the place
[09:18:27] <_methods> glad we didn't buy any small stuff
[09:18:41] <tiwake> lol what
[09:18:50] <_methods> one of the auction guys was so high he could barely form sentences
[09:19:38] <_methods> i mean auctions are usually weird but this one took the cake
[09:20:16] <_methods> most auction companies do a really good job of keeping an eye on the stuff and usually have someone accompany you areound the site
[09:21:12] <tiwake> the one I went to was indoors and they had security at all the exits, and a mandatory checkin area
[09:21:19] <_methods> yep
[09:21:23] <_methods> not at this one
[09:21:37] <_methods> i could have pulled up at a back door and loaded up my truck and they would have never known
[09:22:45] <tiwake> airplane tickets to DFW is so cheap
[09:22:55] <_methods> yeah it's a major hub
[09:22:58] <tiwake> I'm getting a round trip for $180
[09:23:02] <_methods> you flyin out of portland i take it
[09:23:06] <tiwake> ja
[09:25:14] <tiwake> my sister is into soap making, and just asked me if I can make one of these https://www.etsy.com/listing/217347563/wood-soap-making-mold-15-bars-4-oz-with?ref=related_listings
[09:25:22] <tiwake> gonna tell her I can do better
[09:25:37] <_methods> looks easy enough
[09:25:51] <_methods> you'd have to be crazy to pay $50 for that
[09:26:00] <tiwake> it does not trim the outside edges either
[09:26:20] <tiwake> regardless, I have a better idea :3
[09:27:06] <tiwake> one of the things I used to make was industrial cheese cutter for the cheese factory here
[09:27:18] <_methods> heheh
[09:27:59] <tiwake> that with a slightly beveled mold for easier releasing
[09:28:34] <tiwake> with edge trimming
[09:28:47] <tiwake> anyway
[09:33:29] <tiwake> I should shave
[09:36:27] <tiwake> instead of just sitting here
[09:42:53] <Magnifikus> okay just had a guy from steidle here for a minimal cooling system
[09:43:03] <Magnifikus> no more isopropanol :)
[10:02:31] <gregcnc> https://www.instagram.com/p/BHjetWQjgK7/
[10:04:53] <plpower> servus cool milling ;-)
[10:05:22] <plpower> question on G61 shoudent follow the interpreter the exact path
[10:05:54] <plpower> i see roundet corners on sqares at higher feed
[10:06:21] <plpower> on G64 P0.01 in G20 it makes near path
[10:06:38] <plpower> on real milling not on the path predicted
[10:07:00] <plpower> also on G61.1 i see this
[10:07:47] <plpower> wear one shoudt lower the speed to a exact stop and make then the next nove but nonn does this
[10:08:00] <plpower> Move
[10:08:06] <gregcnc> what kind of axis drives?
[10:08:23] <plpower> standard XYZ
[10:08:32] <gregcnc> what runs the servos
[10:08:40] <plpower> on axis gui at 7.x
[10:08:48] <plpower> steppers
[10:09:05] <plpower> its the interpreter not the mashine
[10:09:34] <plpower> if i go down the speed to 100mm/min it makes sharp edges
[10:10:07] <plpower> but on AL milling at 1,5Kw 3mm depth on a BF50 i can go 700+ speed
[10:13:26] <plpower> back in a minutes
[10:43:38] <plpower> did take a while :(
[10:43:49] <plpower> is this channel logged
[10:43:58] <plpower> so i can review if someone answerd
[10:44:36] <gregcnc> there were no comments
[10:44:48] <roycroft> assume every channel is logged
[10:45:25] <gregcnc> zlog
[10:50:45] <plpower> ok thanks
[10:50:58] <plpower> so when are the cracks here to answer my problem
[10:51:05] <plpower> if there is one
[10:51:11] <gregcnc> how much rounding are you getting?
[10:52:55] <plpower> depends on speed about 1mm
[10:55:09] <archivist> you want g61 exact path not g61.1
[10:55:27] <plpower> the docs now also changed quick gcode reference now only got exact path mode
[10:55:34] <plpower> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode.html
[10:56:00] <plpower> exact stop mode has been canceld
[10:58:36] <plpower> ok i will check this later on real mashine again
[10:58:52] <plpower> but i polayes around with all 3
[10:59:25] <plpower> played i need better kboard in this grap shop
[10:59:37] <archivist> better fingers
[10:59:40] <gregcnc> what happens if G64 P.001?
[10:59:40] <plpower> craftsman are not office people
[11:00:02] <plpower> i checked only G64 P0.01
[11:00:16] <archivist> also what version is this on
[11:00:38] <plpower> i updated yesterday
[11:00:52] <plpower> 2.7.x
[11:00:57] <archivist> from
[11:01:16] <plpower> instell is 2.5 cd then 2.5.x update
[11:01:21] <plpower> restart then 2.6
[11:01:30] <plpower> restart then 2.7.rtai
[11:02:02] <plpower> i shoudt stay on 2.6.12
[11:02:09] <plpower> as on 10.04
[11:02:21] <archivist> because the new trajectory planner in 2.7
[11:03:40] <plpower> ok im off i will overcome this
[11:03:51] <plpower> hopfully
[13:27:31] <Tom_itx> Loetmichel_, https://www.radical-departures.net/articles/understanding-the-elements/
[13:28:27] <Loetmichel_> thx, that confirms whaqt i already remembered darkly to have read somewhere ;)
[13:46:36] <JT-Shop> howdy Tom_itx
[13:48:44] <skunkworks_> zlog
[14:37:14] <GabrielGF> Hola. Soy músico y utilizo ubuntu studio que tambien es con kernel modificado para latencia baja. Se le puden agregar los programas necesarios para usar una cnc como en cnclinux?
[14:41:10] <jthornton> AFAIK you either need the RTAI kernel or the RT-Preempt kernel
[14:41:40] <jthornton> most people speak English and I used google translate to see if I understood your question
[14:49:28] <GabrielGF> ok. Really so low latency is needed if the motors move slow?
[14:50:11] <GabrielGF> Can I install the soft that controls the CNC and test without the modified kernel ?
[14:52:26] <jthornton> you can install the simulator without the real time kernel
[14:54:45] <jthornton> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxCNC_Pure_Simulator
[14:55:30] <GabrielGF> ubuntustudio uses the kernel rt.
[14:55:33] <GabrielGF> ok
[14:55:47] <PCW_> I think you can run actual machines with the uspace version on a non RT kernel but you would not want to
[14:56:03] <PCW_> (too lumpy)
[14:59:47] <GabrielGF> I think I understood . Install " LinuxCNC - uspace " in ubuntustudio.
[15:00:13] <GabrielGF> then I try
[15:09:14] <GabrielGF> by
[15:23:43] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, whassup?
[15:28:16] <JT-Shop> fxxking rain lol
[15:28:49] <JT-Shop> just saying hi
[15:34:55] <Tom_itx> you must be under the only cloud in Mo
[15:36:12] <JT-Shop> yea, rained hard yesterday for an hour then rained again today... wonder when I'll get the last few yards of dirt out of my holw
[15:36:14] <JT-Shop> hole
[15:37:56] <Tom_itx> 92° but feels like 100+
[15:44:46] <Jymmm> Anyone know where to find a 56-7/8" METAL cutting bandsaw blade? (1/4" prefered)
[15:46:15] <Tom_itx> weld your own
[15:46:35] <Jymmm> not possible at this time
[15:46:51] <Tom_itx> https://www.bandsawbladesdirect.com/band-saw-blades/bi-metal-band-saw-blades?gclid=CK7X17yW4s0CFQmqaQodCLwHyw
[15:47:05] <yasnak> www.google.com
[15:47:07] <yasnak> :P
[15:47:35] <Tom_itx> http://www.sears.com/craftsman-1-4-x-56-7-8-in-band-saw/p-00926655000P?sid=IDx01192011x000001&gclid=CP_90NSW4s0CFQcLaQod_OEIMw&gclsrc=aw.ds
[15:47:46] <Tom_itx> just what you asked for
[15:47:57] <Jymmm> non ferrous
[15:48:08] <Jymmm> I'm cutting 1/4" steel plate
[15:48:22] <Tom_itx> you didn't specify ferrous metal in your complaint
[15:48:28] <JT-Shop> bandsawbladesdirect can make you any blade you want
[15:48:34] <JT-Shop> lol
[15:49:18] <Tom_itx> that's a rather whimpy blade
[15:51:11] <Tom_itx> http://www.lowes.com/pd/Bosch-56-7-8-in-L-x-1-4-in-W-Carbon-10-in-Stationary-Band-Saw-Blade/3197095
[15:51:21] <Tom_itx> find one with more tpi
[15:51:26] <Tom_itx> if you want steel cutting
[15:58:36] <toastyde1th> for 1/4 plate you should be running a ~16 tpi blade
[15:58:49] <toastyde1th> 16-18
[15:58:57] <andypugh> Jymmm: Plasma
[16:00:15] <toastyde1th> Jymmm, https://www.bandsawbladesdirect.com/lenox-classic-bi-metal-band-saw-blade
[16:00:25] <toastyde1th> lenox always lasted a pretty long time on the big saws
[16:00:34] <toastyde1th> and never had any real issue on vertical saws either
[16:00:48] <JT-Shop> that's what I use
[16:00:58] <toastyde1th> i'd get a 16tpi blade with a continous set
[16:01:31] <toastyde1th> but it looks like they don't make continuous in that line, w/e
[16:12:38] <Deejay> gn8
[16:54:40] <Demure_> Life sucks. I goofed reading the pinouts and blew up the diode in the original encoder that was on my machine. :(
[17:52:26] <FloppyDisk> toastydeath reminds me of battle bots. Like the battle bots around 2000?? Either way, I don't want any toast deaths..
[17:52:35] <FloppyDisk> For me, that is...
[18:22:42] <Frank_12> http://imgur.com/jGjkHdU
[18:51:35] <Frank_12> anyone knows where to find the latest news about the master branch?
[19:00:33] <andypugh> What sort of news?
[19:01:22] <andypugh> You can see changes day-by-day here: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/commits/master
[19:18:35] <Frank_12> thanks andy
[20:46:46] <jdh> are people paying for fusion 360?
[20:52:37] <Tom_itx> not this ppl
[20:53:31] <Tom_itx> i would suppose _someone_ is
[22:03:24] <Frank_12> lol
[22:51:53] <enleth> jdh: you only have to if you're not a hobbyist/startup/student, many here probably qualify for an exemption
[22:53:17] <enleth> jdh: also, the non-exempt users might be using Inventor anyway
[23:32:09] <yasnak> oooh
[23:32:14] <yasnak> another shooting
[23:32:20] <yasnak> ;/