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[01:13:41] <XXCoder> hey archivist
[01:14:48] <pink_vampire> hi
[01:15:02] <XXCoder> hey mankind hunter
[02:42:30] <Deejay> moin
[02:48:07] <Crom> I wish... Leave house at 7am Go out to winery to fix generator, spend 3 hours looking for solenoid, finally buy a starter just for the solenoid. Picl up wife at home -- go to pick up ballots... truck not there... go to meeting at Maker Space, go back 4 hours later, trucks are there... Not ready for us to get ballots, go out to winery to put in the starter solenoid, finish that at 5pm, setup lights, wife brings out costumes, fit costumes, watch rehearsal, co
[02:48:08] <Crom> llect costumes which need adjustment. get home 12:05am
[02:50:50] <Crom> but during rehearsal I read up on cnczone about fabric cutters...
[02:51:20] <Crom> nite nite
[02:51:42] <XXCoder> later
[06:17:43] <jthornton> so the correct command is avrdude -c avrisp2 -p m328 -U flash:w:"blink_led.hex":a -e
[06:18:28] <jthornton> on to programming
[07:32:16] <Tom_itx> jthornton, you don't need the USB part in it?
[07:35:08] <Tom_itx> -p is the part, -P is the port
[07:36:09] <jthornton> no it fails when you ust -P
[07:36:25] <Tom_itx> k
[07:36:30] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/avr/avrdude/avrdude-doc-5.5.pdf
[07:36:32] <Tom_itx> for ref
[07:36:46] <jthornton> when I plug in the programmer no changes show up in /dev
[07:36:47] <Tom_itx> i use it on mine
[07:38:02] <jthornton> avrdude: usbdev_open(): did not find any USB device "usb"
[07:38:26] <Tom_itx> you sure it's not a permission thing?
[07:38:31] <_methods> it's not under tty?
[07:38:33] <Tom_itx> i'm not all that savvy with linux...
[07:38:55] <jthornton> well it could be a permission thing
[07:38:57] <_methods> you probably won't see it in usb
[07:39:21] <_methods> what programmer you using?
[07:39:26] <Tom_itx> mine
[07:39:26] <_methods> avrisp
[07:39:30] <Tom_itx> avrisp2
[07:39:32] <_methods> sorry just saw the avrisp2 part
[07:39:39] <Tom_itx> yeah i know
[07:39:56] <jthornton> nope it can't find "usb"
[07:40:14] <_methods> can you paste ls /dev
[07:40:22] <_methods> and dmesg | grep tty
[07:40:49] <_methods> might be able to see what its under there
[07:40:58] <_methods> and maybe paste lsusb too
[07:42:00] <_methods> i have an avrisp2 i'll go see what mine comes up as
[07:42:28] <jthornton> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17027965/
[07:42:53] <jthornton> ttyACM0 is the UNO
[07:43:31] <jthornton> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17027996/
[07:44:16] <Polymorphism> http://www.harborfreight.com/1-inch-sae-metric-digital-indicator-93295.html http://www.harborfreight.com/clamping-dial-indicator-93051.html
[07:44:16] <jthornton> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17028008/ the avrisp2 unplugged
[07:44:21] <Polymorphism> which would be a better start??
[07:45:47] <_methods> my avrisp2 is showing up as ttyACM0
[07:46:10] <jthornton> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17028063/
[07:46:38] <_methods> well it's definitely seeing it
[07:47:01] <jthornton> yep
[07:47:42] <jthornton> Polymorphism:
http://www.amazon.com/NF10433-NogaFlex-Holder-Base-Adjustment/dp/B001VXW2AQ
[07:47:57] <jthornton> lol at vise grips on a test indicator
[07:48:34] <Polymorphism> how would that mount to my machine though
[07:48:37] <Polymorphism> I saw that style
[07:48:50] <jthornton> it'a a magnet
[07:49:50] <jthornton> looking at this code could I use your blink makefile as a template?
https://github.com/tibounise/SSD1306-AVR
[07:50:21] <_methods> weird mine doesn't show up in lsusb
[07:51:09] <Polymorphism> my cnc is aluminum though
[07:52:56] <jthornton> I guess it depends on what your wanting to indicate
[07:53:17] <Polymorphism> It seemed like an important tool for checking things are level
[07:53:21] <Polymorphism> I wanted to check TIR of a spindle
[07:54:03] <enleth> Polymorphism: that clamping one is interesting, but you might want to glue some sheet copper to the jaws to avoid marring the surface you clamp to
[07:54:12] <jthornton> is a mill or a router?
[07:54:23] <Polymorphism> a robust router
[07:54:59] <enleth> Polymorphism: and definitely get a dial indicator, it might be a tiny bit more difficult to read but most of the time it's the movement of the dial you're observing, not a particular reading
[07:55:01] <jthornton> clamp a steel plate down like you would clamp a piece of wood
[07:55:49] <enleth> yeah, attaching a piece of steel *somewhere* to get the magbase to stick is a good idea
[07:56:03] <Polymorphism> that makes sense, ok
[07:56:15] <Polymorphism> I'll go with the analog unit
[08:03:49] <Polymorphism> this will be excellent
[08:03:56] <Polymorphism> now I'll checkt he spindle TIR as soon as it arrives
[08:04:13] <Polymorphism> .05mm is the claim
[08:18:57] <Polymorphism> http://www.harborfreight.com/60-inch-workbench-93454.html?ccdenc=eyJjb2RlIjoiNTQ3MTQ0MzQiLCJza3UiOiI5MzQ1NCIsImlzIjoiMTM5Ljk5IiwicHJvZHVjdF9p%0D%0AZCI6IjQ0MDgifQ%3D%3D%0D%0A
[08:19:00] <Polymorphism> how about this for a cnc table
[08:19:08] <Polymorphism> for my small machine, I mean
[08:20:38] <Polymorphism> I'm not sure I could build anything nicer for less
[08:20:45] <Polymorphism> almost certain *I* couldn't
[08:21:29] <enleth> looks nice, the legs seem to be thick and sturdy
[08:22:24] <enleth> if it turns out to be wobblier than needed, you can nail a sheet of thin plywood to the back and/or sides to stiffen it up
[08:23:17] <Polymorphism> true, I think I'll give it a try
[08:28:57] <jthornton> and another good morning of learning how to program an avr
[08:29:51] * jthornton wanders off to make a hole big enough for a hot tub
[08:54:01] <Polymorphism> goijng to go with the analog dial indicator
[08:54:05] <Polymorphism> I hope I dont regret not getting tyhe digital
[08:54:10] <Polymorphism> inches///mm
[08:54:20] <Polymorphism> but if the motion is important,t he analog soundsbetter
[08:54:38] <archivist> analogue dial indicators for 99% of the work
[08:55:36] <Polymorphism> k
[08:57:04] <archivist> I only use a digital for measuring, all the runout type jobs analogue is easier to read
[08:57:59] <Polymorphism> and for checking if the work surface is level, on my 3d printer as well, analog is still fine?
[08:58:48] <archivist> I hardly use DTIs for level checking, I use a level
[09:06:55] <jthornton> and digital does not mean it's more accurate
[09:10:53] <archivist> for accurate I prefer second hand cheap :)
[09:58:49] <Tom_itx> jthornton you should be able to use the makefile but i'm not sure about the mods for cpp
[09:58:56] <Tom_itx> it might just work
[10:02:03] <Tom_itx> CC = avr-gcc
[10:02:03] <Tom_itx> CXX = avr-g++
[10:02:13] <Tom_itx> from the makefile
[10:07:43] <Tom_itx> if not, this one is a bit different and you'll have to mod the src files etc:
http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/avr/datalogger/makefile
[10:08:37] <Tom_itx> it's quite a bit older
[10:09:23] <BeachBumPete> morn
[10:13:11] <Tom_itx> whassup?
[10:16:05] <BeachBumPete> eh not much man just trying to decide what we are gonna do today ;)
[10:23:44] <BeachBumPete> Can't wait to start moving my stuff into the new house.... this nomad thing is for the birds :D
[10:40:23] <Duc> when do you finally get the house
[10:46:17] <BeachBumPete> well we are closing soon the contract says the end of this month but we may be closing before that if we can get the paperwork and inspections completed..
[10:47:28] <Duc> not having machines must be driving you nuts
[10:47:58] <BeachBumPete> yeah man the machines are bad enough but honestly it is my BED that I miss the most :D
[10:49:10] <BeachBumPete> We are gonna head down to Fort Lauderdale today to have dinner with some friends and check out the place. we were there last week and saw a bunch of new nice places that were not there when we lived here before
[10:49:59] <Duc> buddy just moved out of Fort Lauderdale which probably saved his liver
[10:50:11] <BeachBumPete> hehe
[10:51:07] <BeachBumPete> went to look at a car in Orlando the other night have not been there in years. I was STUNNED at how much more they have there now than even a few years ago when we vacationed here. Can't wait to try some of it
[10:52:58] <BeachBumPete> it's not all rosy tho,,,, things here are a good bit more expensive than it was in Tennessee unfortunately but we kinda figured that..
[11:23:54] <__rob> out of interest, do you guys always face off 2 sides before clamping a part in the vice ?
[11:24:07] <__rob> clamping the stock rather
[11:24:15] <malcom2073> If it has to be square I do
[11:24:36] <__rob> well, its not perfectly square, had a part move slighly
[11:25:02] <malcom2073> That's the nice thingabout facing off two sides, if you remove it and put it back in, it'll be fairly close to square
[11:25:03] <__rob> was doing 25mm deep rouging end mill pass on it
[11:25:07] <__rob> likely that was where it moved
[11:25:17] <__rob> only noticed on the champher
[11:25:40] <__rob> chamfer
[11:26:04] <__rob> I clamped it hard in the vice tho
[11:26:23] <__rob> all I can think it it was only touching a small part of one side, due to stock not being square
[11:26:52] <malcom2073> That's possible
[11:27:54] <enleth> __rob: get one of those steel balls with a flat on one side
[11:28:09] <enleth> Abom79 is using one of these to hold rough stock for facing
[11:28:27] <enleth> works wonders with deep rust pitting
[11:30:02] <__rob> enleth, got a pic of what you mean ?
[11:30:07] <enleth> sec
[11:33:33] <enleth> __rob:
https://youtu.be/lk1sgxKGYqQ?t=2m33s
[11:35:09] <__rob> nice
[11:35:13] <__rob> hah, love his rougher
[11:35:15] <__rob> large
[11:38:57] <enleth> but I can't recall what the thing is called and I think he mentioned at some point that his was custom made by a friend who makes them
[11:39:06] <enleth> in one of the 200 or so videos of his
[11:41:04] <enleth> but he did say that this amounts to buying a big ball bearing and grinding one side flat, preferably on a surface grinder
[13:03:47] <Sync> enleth: you can also just use a piece of copper wire
[13:05:59] <enleth> sounds a bit more prone to deforming failing during very heavy cuts, but still a useful trick
[13:06:04] <enleth> *and failing
[13:10:23] <CaptHindsight> the copper wire method tends to hold it well enough that the error is less than the error of the mill
[13:13:43] <enleth> I'm just used to compressed copper having a tendency to give in a little bit more after it settles, but the effect might not be rapid enough to matter here, hard to say
[13:13:54] <enleth> I never tested how fast it happens
[13:15:37] <CaptHindsight> sounds more like paranoia
[13:16:51] <CaptHindsight> you're compressing a ~2mm copper wire
[13:25:13] <enleth> it's not paranoia if you're actually using the wire for its intended purpose. A copper wire will often loosen up in screw terminals even when properly tightened. I always re-tighten connections a few days after assembly, and then after a few weeks. What was initially torqued down as far as it goes will often go almost an eight of a turn further given time.
[13:26:34] <Sync> your are not supposed to squeeze the juice out of the wire
[13:31:32] <enleth> Depends on the wire and connection type, a bare bolt on a busbar can go loose over time if you don't fold the wire over itself and apply a fair amount of torque, then check back later to retighten.
[13:32:32] <enleth> I'm not saying you should squeeze the shit out of the common railmounted breaker connections, they don't need it
[13:34:16] <Sync> I usually crimp a terminal onto the wire or a wire end
[13:34:20] <Sync> never had them come loose
[13:34:48] <roycroft> a properly crimped terminal makes a better connection than a soldered terminal
[13:35:16] <roycroft> and will not fail in vibratory conditions like soldered connections often do
[13:35:42] <CaptHindsight> well AC is always vibrating
[13:35:56] <CaptHindsight> DC only wants to go in one direction
[13:36:29] <enleth> Sync: what style of terminal?
[13:37:21] <CaptHindsight> so DC and kept as close to 0 deg. K as possible
[13:37:41] <CaptHindsight> otherwise you're just asking for trouble
[13:37:47] <enleth> CaptHindsight: I think it has more to do with thermal expansion cycles when it does come loose
[13:38:07] <Sync> almost any of them enleth
[13:38:08] <roycroft> this is what i don't understand: electric bills
[13:38:15] <roycroft> my power utility delivers ac power
[13:38:24] <roycroft> the electrons i use just wiggle back and forth
[13:38:28] <roycroft> i don't get new electrons
[13:38:36] <roycroft> and i don't push any electrons away
[13:38:41] <roycroft> how can they charge me for that?
[13:38:46] <CaptHindsight> sounds like a racket
[13:38:49] <roycroft> if it were dc i'd have new electrons coming in all the time
[13:38:50] <roycroft> :)
[13:39:16] <Sync> pfft
[13:39:24] <enleth> Sync: most I know are for stranded wire, solid wire crimped terminals start to make sense for sizes that can't be easily folded over in a loop anyway
[13:39:26] <CaptHindsight> as I understand it, they charge for electrons passing through your meter in either direction, old or new
[13:39:30] <roycroft> when i buy a piece of wire and use it for ac power it already has all the electrons i need
[13:39:47] <enleth> I think I've seen them made for 6mm^2, but only used 10mm^2 and up
[13:40:01] <CaptHindsight> if only they made a p-type copper
[13:40:20] <Sync> I don't think folding the wire over is up to code here
[13:41:02] <CaptHindsight> roycroft: it's like your water bill
[13:41:38] <CaptHindsight> it's the same water since jesus or the dinosaurs, they just charge you when it passes through your meter
[13:42:05] <enleth> Might not be. It is here. 2.5mm and 4mm are quite hard to connect to a busbar otherwise, unless you use one of those brass screw terminal blocks that clamp onto the bar and
[13:42:20] <enleth> *s/and//
[13:44:27] <enleth> for thicker wire I agree, though - a crimped terminal is the way to go
[13:45:46] <enleth> and most definitely the only way to go for aluminum sectored ground cable, unless the breakers or whatever are specifically made to accept it directly
[13:51:22] <archivist> afternoons entertainment, seized to unseized fly press
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=denbigh
[13:57:15] <Crom> I find I have to match P-type copper and N-type copper to make a good circuit
[13:59:08] <Crom> fixed the diesel generator last night... I ended up having to buy a starter, just to get a solenoid
[14:28:12] <malcom2073> I could drill a clearance hole all the way through the 3030 on top, and tap the end of the vertical 3030 underneath, and hold it together with 3.5 inch bolts
[14:44:19] <Duc_mobile> PCW: how is the encoder position sent to AXIS display. I have a encoder on the knee but no motor setup for it. I can view the position in "Show Hal Configuration" but no on the dispaly
[14:47:36] <arauchfuss> oh nifty there is a deadzone component
[14:57:43] <arauchfuss> I have a spare xy table that I kinda want to use to CNC a sewing machine.
[14:58:36] <arauchfuss> Pretty sure I would just need to put an encoder on the needle.
[14:59:06] <arauchfuss> run it in some kind of constant surface speed mode.
[14:59:39] <arauchfuss> so the stitching had a consistent spacing.
[15:28:10] <pink_vampire> anyone here use 3d scanner?
[15:35:13] <Tom_itx> they have em at the uni
[15:35:17] <Tom_itx> all sorts
[15:36:04] <Tom_itx> tabletop scanners, room scanners, portable scanners for field composite aircraft repair
[15:41:59] <Crom> arauchfuss, drive the motor with a BIG stepper. so you can gear UP the machine like a stepper 1:4 machine turns
[15:42:18] <Crom> so a 1000 RPM stepper will get you 4000 at the machine
[15:43:27] <Crom> and big steppers on the XY so you can get decent speed
[15:44:51] <Crom> \pink I played with the david laserscanner a bit..
[15:45:13] <Crom> the free version gets lousy resolution...
[15:55:48] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: avr's are starting to click in the old noodle
[16:10:48] <arauchfuss> crom: I have a nema 34 lying around think that will work?
[16:27:45] <Deejay> gn8
[16:28:27] <andypugh> Tonight I seem to be modifying a blank Multifis toolholder (that I bought from Create Tool special-order)
[16:29:16] <andypugh> I am milling a pocket in it to take a Horn parting tool holder. I hope it works out, there is much that could go wrong.
[16:29:39] <enleth> andypugh: how much did it cost you?
[16:29:43] <andypugh> I spent most of the day taking all the locks in my house apart and shuffling the pins
[16:29:47] <Duc_main> andypugh: how is the encoder position sent to AXIS display. I have a encoder on the knee but no motor setup for it. I can view the position in "Show Hal Configuration" but no on the dispaly
[16:29:56] <Duc_main> why would you shuffle the locks?
[16:30:27] <andypugh> I had my keys stolen. Full story here:
http://bodgesoc.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/locks.html
[16:30:27] <enleth> Duc_main: is that the bridgeport? Where did you put the encoder?
[16:30:32] <Duc_main> yep
[16:31:23] <Duc_main> enleth: got the encoder mostly working but it will only increment in one direction no matter which if you go postive or negavtive in movement
[16:31:31] <andypugh> Duc_main: I would be tempted to try adding the knee encoder position to the quill encoder. I think that might work out quite neatly. You wind down the knee, the PID sees the axis drifting, and corrects it.
[16:31:57] <andypugh> But it needs to count both directions first…
[16:32:25] <enleth> Duc_main: but is it a rotary or a linear scale?
[16:32:31] <andypugh> Duc_main: Is the encoder in “counter mode” ?
[16:32:51] <Duc_main> enleth: linear encoder
[16:33:24] <Duc_main> andypugh: Not really sure which mode. Cant find a good manual for the EXE 602 B or are you talking in .hal
[16:33:34] <andypugh> I am talking about HAL
[16:34:28] <Duc_main> nope counter mode is a 0
[16:35:16] <andypugh> Does the quadrature look, err, quadratic in Halscope?
[16:36:22] <enleth> Duc_main: EXE 602? Would you mind taking it apart and snapping a few photos of the board? I'm trying to replicate that interpolator but all I have is the version embedded in the TNC 131, three of those mixed together on the same board
[16:36:54] <enleth> It would be really helpful to have a standalone interpolator as a basis
[16:36:58] <Duc_main> enleth: yea I can take a few pictures
[16:37:02] <Duc_main> front and back?
[16:37:16] <enleth> Duc_main: yeah, and the input stage is what I'm mostly after
[16:37:26] <Duc_main> andypugh: so I need to look at input A and B?
[16:37:28] <enleth> the opamps at the input
[16:38:33] <enleth> I've been fiddling around with an Intersil CA3130 trying to emulate what they did in the TNC but I can't quite get it to produce a clean output
[16:40:02] <enleth> 11µApp is no joke, gets noisy if you so much as look at it sideways
[16:41:03] <enleth> as soon as I get the signal amplified, the rest is trivial
[16:41:52] <Duc_main> andypugh: yes Im seeing square signals. should it go negative when direction is switched?
[16:42:39] <Duc_main> enleth: what is your email for the picture
[16:43:22] <enleth> Duc_main: enleth@hackerspace.pl
[16:44:46] <Duc_main> once we are dont messing with it I will take a pic of the back
[16:46:33] <Duc_main> I can also take out the DSLR for better pics
[16:46:33] <Sync> iirc it was suprisingly simple
[16:46:37] <enleth> sure, thanks, the front is really helpful already
[16:47:09] <enleth> the comparator and quadrature part seems identical to the TNC, but they used completely different opamps here
[16:47:15] <enleth> with much, much less resistors around
[16:47:45] <Duc_main> Monday I will email Heidenhain from work to see about a better manual
[16:48:46] <enleth> what do you need that isn't in the first google result?
[16:49:17] <Duc_main> doesnt really say which switches for 5 fold
[16:49:58] <andypugh> Duc_main: No, but you should see A-then-B in one direction and B-then-A in the other.
[16:57:48] <Duc_main> andypugh: Ill upload some images
[16:58:59] <Duc_main> they dont seem to be opposite of each other
[16:59:14] <Duc_main> at times both are active
[16:59:19] <andypugh> They shouldn’t be. They should be in quadrature.
[16:59:44] <Duc_main> can these be set weird?
[17:00:24] <Sync> iirc the exe has a differential output
[17:00:31] <Sync> did you use the right polarities?
[17:00:40] <Duc_main> let me check something. I thought at first I had the wires swap so I moved some wires to make it work
[17:00:48] <Duc_main> I thought I did but maybe not
[17:00:57] <Duc_main> find info on the boxes was tough
[17:01:57] <Sync> first link on google has everything
[17:02:29] <enleth> Duc_main: I can't quite identify any switches on the photo
[17:02:41] <Sync> you want brown/grey or green/pink connected
[17:03:17] <Duc_main> enleth: getting back pictures while unit is powered off
[17:05:24] <Duc_main> Sync: I paired 0-(red),0+(blue) L2 together and -90(yellow),90+(green) L1 togehter
[17:06:20] <Sync> L?
[17:06:22] <Sync> I
[17:06:44] <Sync> yeah, that's right for the input
[17:06:48] <Sync> I mean the output
[17:07:15] <Sync> you will get ttl quadrature signals from brown and gray to ground
[17:07:22] <Sync> or green and pink
[17:08:19] <JT-Shop> anyone know how to mix hydro seed?
[17:12:11] <arauchfuss> m5
[17:12:17] <arauchfuss> oops!
[17:14:12] <Duc_main> sync: on the 7i77 encoder: Gray to QA0, pink to /QA0, White to ground, brown to QB0, Green to /QB0, Thick brown to 5v, red to IDX0 and black to /IDX0
[17:14:32] <Duc_main> sync: does that seem right?
[17:14:51] <Duc_main> enleth: more photos on the way. The switches are the blue block
[17:16:42] <Sync> sounds ok Duc_main
[17:17:11] <enleth> Duc_main: though as much because there wasn't anything else that could have been a switch, but these are seriously the weirdest PCB switches I've ever seen
[17:17:36] <Duc_main> Sync: could the switch settings be wrong?
[17:17:38] <Sync> enleth: they were quite common in the late 80s early 90s
[17:18:58] <enleth> could be, I've taken apart some stuff this old but appratenly not enough to encounter those
[17:19:15] <enleth> Duc_main: the back photo is super clear, thanks
[17:19:42] <Duc_main> at least they arent wire wrapped. few have those tools
[17:19:46] <Duc_main> enleth: no problem
[17:20:23] <Sync> set the inputs to differential?
[17:20:23] <arauchfuss> god wire wrapping.
[17:20:37] <enleth> Duc_main: that's funny, you can actually buy a brand new wire wrapping tool on aliexpress for $15
[17:21:05] <enleth> a friend bought some for the heck of it, they're not quite as crappy as we expected
[17:21:33] <arauchfuss> the forgotten skill that I like is the waxed twine wire bundling.
[17:21:39] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/images/blast-cabinet/Blast%20Cabinet%2012.JPG
[17:22:05] <Sync> I got a weller wrapping gun, it's fun
[17:22:07] <Duc_main> Sync: how would I do that I guess is the question
[17:22:16] <enleth> it unwrapped some old telephone exchange wiring and re-wrapped it just fine
[17:22:29] <Duc_main> Ive done alot of wire wrapping when I was in my 20's
[17:22:30] <Sync> there are jumpers on the 7i77 Duc_main
[17:23:54] <Sync> they should be set to the right position
[17:25:37] <Duc_main> They were in the right hand position.
[17:25:58] <Sync> hm
[17:26:21] <Duc_main> so farthest away from DB25
[17:26:36] <Sync> scale setup properly?
[17:28:16] <_methods> JT-Shop: lookin good
[17:28:22] <_methods> you got a press brake?
[17:28:51] <Duc_main> seems to be. I made a make about 2 inches on the scale and it reads around 2 for travel on w-pos-fb
[17:29:03] <Duc_main> mark about 2 inches apart
[17:29:39] <dioz> i'm in quebec
[17:29:44] <Sync> hmm
[17:29:48] <dioz> and it appears all their stores close at 5PM on weekends?
[17:29:54] <dioz> what the hell is wrong with the french?
[17:30:04] <Sync> idk then
[17:30:16] <Sync> dioz: how about no shops open on sunday, like it is here
[17:30:23] <Duc_main> Sync: I was wondering if I mixed up wiring or something or settings
[17:30:31] <dioz> Sync: where are you?
[17:31:05] <Sync> germoney
[17:31:13] <Sync> yeah Duc_main, doesn't look like it
[17:31:34] <Sync> you could hoop up a scope to the quad lines and see how it looks
[17:32:49] <dioz> Sync: what is the reasoning behind that decision? do you know?
[17:33:29] <Sync> sunday is a holy day, basically
[17:33:37] <Duc_main> I might have to do that. the pins look up is the same as signal
[17:33:53] <Sync> idk, it was never a thing here
[17:34:05] <dioz> i wish i knew some quebec freenode channels
[17:34:08] <dioz> so i could makefun of them
[17:34:29] <dioz> it seems to be the french with this weird idea
[17:34:51] <Sync> sucks to be working on your free day
[17:35:52] <Duc_main> going to run for a bit need a break but Ill work on this some more after dinner
[17:36:08] <Duc_main> thanks for the help
[17:40:10] <enleth> interesting, the EXE seems to be a later, more refined design than the TNC131
[17:41:04] <andypugh> arauchfuss: Harness lacing isn’t 100% dead. You can buy the twine:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/c/cables-wires/cable-accessories-ties-tools/cable-lacing/
[17:41:59] <malcom2073> We use harness lacing in some of our motors where wrapping the wires with spando or other wrappings would take up too much space
[17:42:12] <andypugh> And at least one person has done some lacing no more than 2 weeks ago:
https://picasaweb.google.com/108164504656404380542/Holbrook#6289134118456528994
[17:42:36] <malcom2073> I actually laced some small harnesses just last week heh
[17:42:38] <andypugh> Though that isn’t old-school levels of neat.
[17:42:41] <JT-Shop> _methods: a 3-1, a box/pan brake and a 26" 50 ton press brake
[17:45:51] <andypugh> arauchfuss: There is some nice lacing in the replica Bombe:
http://www.securityninja.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/JH-Image2.jpg
[17:55:04] <XXCoder> hmm
[17:55:50] <XXCoder> that photo is very grainy
[18:02:28] <dioz> someone needs to invite quebec into the 21st century i think
[18:02:34] <dioz> who closes stores at 5PM?
[18:02:43] <dioz> i'm just baffled
[18:02:51] <XXCoder> most small business here do
[18:02:52] <malcom2073> Stores here close around 5 on sunday
[18:03:12] <XXCoder> while larger usually 10 or 11
[18:03:14] <XXCoder> pm
[18:04:17] <dioz> where i live is smaller than here
[18:04:19] <dioz> tiny infact
[18:04:25] <XXCoder> tacoma, wa here
[18:04:34] <dioz> the entire population of the province i live in is equal to a single city here
[18:04:40] <XXCoder> one of oldest western cities
[18:04:41] <dioz> and this city happens to close all stores at 5PM
[18:04:48] <XXCoder> first is Fort Vancouver, then Fort Tacoma
[18:07:39] <dioz> i mean even regina saskatchewan's walmarts closed at 11PM
[18:07:43] <dioz> and that place is tiny
[18:07:52] <XXCoder> walmart tend to be 24 hours
[18:08:00] <XXCoder> it closes at all is a big surpise.
[18:08:01] <dioz> not in quebec
[18:08:06] <malcom2073> XXCoder: Superwalmart vs regular
[18:08:07] <dioz> in quebec they're open 9-5 on weekends
[18:08:11] <malcom2073> supers are 24/7, regulars close
[18:08:27] <XXCoder> oh yeah forgot that. havent shopped in walshit for long time
[18:39:29] <XXCoder> god: you got dicked!!
http://www.viralthread.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Screen-Shot-2016-06-03-at-10.09.28.png
[18:40:36] <XXCoder> https://youtu.be/u87Fmr8su8I video
[18:43:32] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, is the sandblaster for you?
[18:43:38] <Tom_itx> avr's are easy btw...
[18:44:05] <malcom2073> avr's are really cool for a lot of stuff
[18:44:30] <Tom_itx> too bad pic bought em
[18:44:53] <malcom2073> Eh, the fallout from that is still a ways off
[18:45:02] <Tom_itx> it will come
[18:45:07] <malcom2073> At least for hobbiests
[18:45:21] <malcom2073> Hopefully they don't pic it up
[18:45:40] <enleth> OTOH it would be nice if more people switched to MSP430
[18:45:44] <Tom_itx> yeah they do have some good chips though
[18:45:53] <Tom_itx> just no free tools and banked memory etc
[18:45:55] <malcom2073> I have a MSP430
[18:45:57] <enleth> AVR is not aging very well compared to the modern designs
[18:46:07] <malcom2073> I've never actually played with it
[18:46:15] <malcom2073> STM32 stuff is *so* stinking easy nowadays
[18:46:26] <enleth> it was an 8051 replacement and it was a damn good one
[18:46:28] <enleth> in the 90s
[18:46:29] <dioz> what
[18:46:47] <dioz> i need a laser cutter for 10 gauge sheet metal
[18:46:51] <dioz> how much would it run me?
[18:47:02] <dioz> galvanize iron
[18:47:06] <alex4nder> anyone thought of using a VESC to run a BLDC 4th axis?
[18:47:07] <dioz> or stainless
[18:47:37] <malcom2073> galvanizing is scary
[18:47:37] <enleth> dioz: anywhere in the $5k-$25k range depending on how chinese you want it
[18:47:54] <enleth> you probably don't want the most chinese ones, though?
[18:48:36] <alex4nder> http://vedder.se/2015/01/vesc-open-source-esc/
[18:48:42] <alex4nder> they've got support for quadtrature encoders now
[18:48:43] <enleth> 10ga is almost 4mm, so maybe a bit more on the low end
[18:48:58] <dioz> enleth: how much to make my own?
[18:49:34] <enleth> dioz: about the same, for the same level of chineseness
[18:51:14] <enleth> dioz: most of the cost is the tube and power supply anyway
[18:51:27] <enleth> dioz: if you were able to make your own, you wouldn't be asking those questions here
[18:51:33] <Crom> arauchfuss, I was thinking on the order of 1400"# or more
[18:52:37] <dioz> if i was able to make my own i'd know the prices of the individual components?
[18:52:44] <dioz> interesting idea
[18:53:26] <dioz> tell me more about how ones ability to make something is directly related to their knowledge on component pricing
[18:53:29] <dioz> that is interesting to me
[18:53:44] <enleth> dioz: your own tube and power supply. yes, because you'd know exactly what the components are and you'd have a stock of them, so you'd know the prices
[18:53:55] <dioz> i'd have stock on them?
[18:54:04] <dioz> so in order to know how to make something you must have stock
[18:54:08] <dioz> tell me more about this idea
[18:54:19] <dioz> cause i know how to make a house.. but i don't stock the individual components
[18:54:48] <enleth> oh yeah, let's take the strawman up to eleven, because people make houses in their basements
[18:55:31] <Tom_itx> back trolling again i see
[18:55:46] <dioz> so being able to make something is directly related to if you have stock and are aware of componet pricing
[18:55:49] <enleth> oh wait, they don't, but they do make laser tubes, and after many failed attempts, they arrive at a working design, at which point they have a stock of components.
[18:55:49] <dioz> i understand
[18:56:33] <enleth> maybe just go and google it if you don't like your questions being answered
[18:56:34] <dioz> i know how to make a cake but idk how much sugar is until i get to the super market
[18:56:42] <dioz> solid logic though
[18:56:58] <Tom_itx> enleth, brilliant thinking there...
[18:58:39] <enleth> Tom_itx, whose?
[18:58:56] <Tom_itx> the google it yourself comment :)
[19:00:02] <enleth> well, if he doesn't like people giving him answers, he's welcome to wade through search results looking for them
[19:00:29] <dioz> i don't mind people answering questions... but providing wild assertions is another thing
[19:00:38] <dioz> i don't even mind being trolled
[19:00:47] <dioz> i don't even mind people cursing or belittling me
[19:01:03] <Tom_itx> i consider this a last resort for help, not a first one without some knowledge of what's going on
[19:01:26] <malcom2073> dioz: In his defense, and in this case I'm unsure I should be defending since that was a straight-up troll on his part, but asking the question "how much to make my own" would've been better to ask "How much are laser tubes/power supplies?"
[19:01:34] <malcom2073> Since the rest is just a xy table
[19:01:57] <dioz> touche
[19:02:28] <malcom2073> laser tube, power supply, and optics are where the majority of your cost will be
[19:02:30] <malcom2073> So price that out
[19:02:40] <malcom2073> The rest, hell, most people have that sort of stuff laying aroundheh
[19:02:57] <dioz> it was a general question. i wasn't looking for an absolute answer
[19:03:13] <dioz> but i had to comment on ones ability to produce a product without knowing the price of the components
[19:03:35] <dioz> if you aren't aware of the components clearly you don't have the ability to produce such a product!
[19:03:51] <dioz> :s/components/component prices
[19:04:39] <malcom2073> Though if you aren't aware of component prices you're quite a lot of research away from being ready to produce such a product, capabilities having nothing to do with ti
[19:04:41] <enleth> well, I'm still of the opinion that if you *really* know, from experience, how to build a device of some kind, you're either in the business of building it and you know the prices or can ask someone you're working with, or have built one and must have acquired the components already, thus having *some* idea of the price from researching it. Which does lead to the conclusion that you wouldn't need to ask
[19:04:47] <enleth> around.
[19:04:53] <dioz> i mean i don't know how much as ASR costs
[19:05:01] <dioz> so i must'nt know anything about networking
[19:05:03] <dioz> transparently
[19:05:42] <malcom2073> I could build one, but I haven't a clue how much they cost :-P And I probably wouldn't spec the laser itself properly since I don't know much about their capabilities
[19:06:19] <malcom2073> but it's a valid question I've asked here before, and had it answered: How much does that stuff cost?
[19:06:39] <malcom2073> The answer for 40w winds up being: between $300 and $3000 depending on the quality of tube/power supply/optics you want.
[19:06:47] <malcom2073> You need significantly more power than that though
[19:06:49] <dioz> do you want the price in euro? pound? CAD? or yankee monies?
[19:07:53] <enleth> malcom2073: I quite specifically mentioned making the tube and the power supply instead of buying it, not the cutter as a whole
[19:08:10] <dioz> "cutter"
[19:08:11] <dioz> how technical
[19:08:13] <malcom2073> Ah I had missed that, I've seen a couple blogs of people doing that, takes a *lot* of trial and error
[19:08:29] <dioz> clearly doesn't use appropriate terminology so i question his knowledge/skill
[19:09:16] <enleth> dioz: seriously now? most of the time anyone here mentions a laser plotter, they use the term "laser cutter" or shorten it to "cutter". does everyone here lack in knowledge and skill?
[19:09:21] <malcom2073> [19:20:10] <dioz> i need a laser cutter for 10 gauge sheet metal
[19:09:26] <malcom2073> dioz: ^^ You said cutter too :-P
[19:09:36] <dioz> malcom2073: but clearly i'm not as smart
[19:09:54] <dioz> a smarter individual would be much more technical one would think
[19:10:10] <enleth> dioz: clearly you're just bent on retaliating now
[19:10:17] <dioz> transparently
[19:10:28] <malcom2073> Yeah I'ma bow out heh
[19:10:55] <dioz> i mean if you wanna be a dick we can all be dicks
[19:11:12] <dioz> i can get SUPER pedantic
[19:11:16] <enleth> nah, no time for this
[19:11:23] <dioz> i win
[19:11:37] <Tom_itx> naw i won 10 min ago
[19:11:42] <enleth> what's the prize?
[19:12:02] <Tom_itx> dunno, i'm eatin free pizza
[19:12:14] <dioz> fuckin quebec
[19:12:15] <dioz> i want pizza
[19:13:51] <dioz> sorry for being a dick
[19:13:59] <dioz> i thought about it further and realized i was out of line and rude
[19:14:03] <dioz> sorry #linuxcnc
[19:14:17] <XXCoder> https://youtu.be/u87Fmr8su8I video
[19:14:28] <XXCoder> dioz: check it out heh
[19:16:27] <dioz> i showed it to the gf
[19:16:32] <dioz> she asked "why is the cloud so rude"
[19:16:47] <dioz> i said "the cloud is hung like a motherfucker"
[19:16:49] <dioz> she lol'd
[19:17:04] <XXCoder> lol
[19:17:58] <enleth> dioz: well sorry if it got to you as much as it looks like, it might just have been me getting a little on the edge from how you ask questions here
[19:22:30] <dioz> no questions allowed
[19:22:33] <dioz> roger
[19:24:18] <dioz> i wonder why they're so hush hush about dylan obriens injuries onset the latest "maze runner"
[19:24:38] <dioz> i bet it's drugs
[19:25:29] <dioz> 24 years old with as much money as i imagine he ha
[19:25:34] <dioz> has
[19:26:21] <XXCoder> gonna love lost techologies. :(
http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/9/8/6/538986_v1.jpg
[19:29:30] <dioz> i'm cutting letters out the old fashioned way, from sheet metal
[19:29:36] <dioz> a pair of aviation snips
[19:29:57] <dioz> the hard part is cutting out the centers of letters... like A and O and G and such
[19:30:12] <dioz> but a 10" letter seels for $50
[19:30:27] <dioz> :s/seels/sells
[19:30:44] <malcom2073> hah wow, really?
[19:30:58] <dioz> they're 3d lettering
[19:31:15] <malcom2073> pic?
[19:31:17] <dioz> i tig them together
[19:33:09] <dioz> http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0400/2233/products/IMG_20150223_161245_large.jpg?v=1424726364
[19:33:12] <dioz> not my picture
[19:33:17] <dioz> but that is the same idea
[19:33:20] <malcom2073> Interesting
[19:33:30] <malcom2073> Yeah that'd be nice to have the panels CNC cut out heh
[19:33:43] <malcom2073> why not go plasma? They're cheapish
[19:33:44] <XXCoder> cnc it
[19:33:58] <dioz> that is my goal
[19:34:04] <dioz> but right now they're priced out of my range
[19:34:16] <malcom2073> cheaper than laser
[19:34:34] <dioz> the kerf with plasma is kind of janky though
[19:34:39] <dioz> the edges aren't very clean
[19:34:55] <dioz> i tried using a wood cut out as a guide
[19:35:15] <malcom2073> Depends, a buddy of mine runs the plasma cutter at a local HVAC place, their stuff is clean
[19:35:20] <malcom2073> Loetmichel: uses a CNC to cut sheet metal
[19:35:26] <malcom2073> a cnc router
[19:35:47] <dioz> the way i see it i could drop about $5k CAD on a mchine ATM
[19:35:49] <dioz> but not much more
[19:36:11] <dioz> i have a metalworking lathe and a plasma cutter and a tig welder
[19:36:25] <dioz> i'm pretty good at manufacturing components
[19:37:04] <dioz> i just dunno where to start is my problem
[19:37:30] <tiwake> need to start with a market
[19:37:43] <dioz> the letters sell
[19:37:45] <dioz> they sell very well
[19:37:57] <dioz> it seems everyone wants these letters
[19:38:07] <tiwake> then you need enough money for the correct tooling to make stuff for that market
[19:38:24] <dioz> i can make them my problem is it just takes a while
[19:38:40] <dioz> i mean some letters are easier
[19:38:51] <dioz> and it depends on font too
[19:39:07] <tiwake> can you make money if you outsource everything?
[19:39:42] <dioz> that might be a better idea
[19:39:56] <dioz> i was walking through old toronto the other day and walked into a antique shop
[19:40:18] <dioz> and the chick was selling the same letters for $75 a pop
[19:40:23] <dioz> i can get free sheet metal
[19:40:36] <dioz> i doubt the shop would take all my scrap metal though
[19:40:44] <dioz> (i istall commercial duct currently)
[19:40:51] <dioz> so the product we have left over sits in my garage
[19:42:26] <Duc_main> back from dinner
[19:42:43] <Frank_7> how was it
[19:42:58] <Duc_main> drakes was awesome
[19:43:35] <Frank_7> had to google that word lol
[19:44:15] <Duc_main> lol
[19:45:13] <malcom2073> dioz: Look into getting them water cut
[19:45:24] <malcom2073> Water cutting isn't terribly expensive
[19:46:51] <dioz> i was thinking of making a jig and doing it manually
[19:47:02] <dioz> just trace the outline in the jig
[19:47:29] <dioz> i've done it with a router and wood before
[19:47:50] <dioz> wood letters
[19:47:56] <dioz> *shrug*
[20:08:23] <malcom2073> I have a cast letter M for some reason, I think I got it when I was a kid. Found it in a box a year ago or so from my parents house
[20:08:31] <malcom2073> what do people use the big letters for?
[20:09:22] <XXCoder> malcom2073: signs
[20:09:26] <XXCoder> other uses maybe
[20:09:32] <malcom2073> I've heard there is money in signs
[20:10:12] <XXCoder> probably?
[20:10:35] <malcom2073> Maybe that's the 3: ???? before 4: profit!
[20:11:01] <XXCoder> I dont think there is much business in sign making, but nice profit
[20:11:22] <malcom2073> eh I'm looking for beer money, not a business
[20:11:28] <malcom2073> Well.... tooling money
[20:11:50] <[cube]> malcom2073 i want to get into signs too :)
[20:11:54] <XXCoder> I dont know what my plan is, money wise, for my machine
[20:12:03] <XXCoder> but it's more for fun than anything anyway
[20:12:14] <[cube]> there's definitely a niche demnad to high qualioty 3d-carved signs
[20:12:17] <malcom2073> I'm making a big router, I figure that ought to be able to do at least some money making stuff
[20:12:28] <XXCoder> malcom2073: funtures
[20:12:36] <[cube]> most 'cottage signs' and stuff are cheap looking with stock clipart
[20:12:38] <XXCoder> couch and stuff
[20:12:41] <malcom2073> XXCoder: yeah, custom cabinet doors
[20:12:48] <malcom2073> I want to do custom doors for my cabinet set, and a custom front door
[20:12:52] <XXCoder> fancy 3d profiles
[20:13:23] <[cube]> just finished making a dust cyclone, seems to work good
[20:13:29] <XXCoder> nice
[20:13:40] <malcom2073> I'ma need one of those for this thing
[20:13:42] <[cube]> used a construction pylon as the cone lol
[20:13:43] <XXCoder> one of projects I want to do is telsa one way flow thingy
[20:14:06] <malcom2073> 5x10 router, gonna stick the biggest motor I can on it heh
[20:14:10] <[cube]> malcom2073: is your router set up?
[20:14:28] <[cube]> 5x10 is huge!
[20:14:31] <malcom2073> Not even, still in design stage. I have material and rails finally though
[20:14:35] <malcom2073> http://i.imgur.com/Srx4KCr.png
[20:14:47] <[cube]> joe's design?
[20:14:50] <malcom2073> Nah my own
[20:14:54] <[cube]> nice
[20:15:02] <[cube]> mine is an old joe's 4x6
[20:15:04] <[cube]> just got it going
[20:15:05] <malcom2073> Me and my dad lucked into an auction:
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13340270_1290477290966649_7774996593924764252_o.jpg
[20:15:09] <malcom2073> What's joes?
[20:15:12] <[cube]> wow.
[20:15:21] <XXCoder> oh damn
[20:15:27] <malcom2073> Those are 12ft, which is perfect sized for a 10ft travel router
[20:15:27] <[cube]> joe is a 'famous' cnc designer in the community
[20:15:27] <XXCoder> how much was it?
[20:15:32] <malcom2073> XXCoder: $1200
[20:15:37] <XXCoder> I see thousands of dollars worth of 8020
[20:15:43] <[cube]> nice score
[20:15:46] <malcom2073> $5k if you bought it new
[20:15:49] <malcom2073> we priced it out heh
[20:15:50] <XXCoder> indeed
[20:16:00] <XXCoder> wanna send me one of those? lol
[20:16:15] <malcom2073> About half of it is going to my router, some of it to my dads 4x4, and then we're gonna sell the rest to the local cnc group
[20:16:22] <XXCoder> nice
[20:16:48] <XXCoder> I found a local 8020 reseller but never got around to it. (by local I mean 3 hours away lol)
[20:16:49] <malcom2073> I got THK rails a while back for the router, but never got around to buying a frame. Lucked into that and figured it was high time to build the damn thing
[20:17:17] <malcom2073> By the end of this, I'm onyl going to have about $3k in this thing
[20:17:21] <Frank_7> what size router malcom
[20:17:25] <malcom2073> Frank_7: 5x10
[20:17:48] <[cube]> 3k for that size is nothin
[20:17:56] <malcom2073> I know!
[20:18:09] <Frank_7> nice, im finishing my 350kg 4*8
[20:18:16] <[cube]> you will have fun squaring it :)
[20:18:23] <malcom2073> Haha yeah I'm sure that'll be a joy :/
[20:18:30] <[cube]> be carfeul when welding up the frame
[20:18:30] <malcom2073> I have a 5ft iron straightedge
[20:18:33] <malcom2073> not welding, boltign
[20:18:35] <[cube]> it can bow
[20:18:35] <malcom2073> bolting*
[20:18:40] <XXCoder> [cube]: no weld needed
[20:18:53] <[cube]> i realize for the 8020
[20:18:56] <[cube]> but for the base?
[20:19:03] <malcom2073> Yeah, the whole thing is 8020
[20:19:06] <[cube]> ah.
[20:19:09] <Frank_7> dont you wanna give away that thingy? hjehe
[20:19:11] <[cube]> i gues syou have an abundance :P
[20:19:14] <XXCoder> yeah there is ways to use only accurate surfaces on 8020
[20:19:15] <malcom2073> Though tbh, I'm using it for wood, so my critical alignment is only within what is acceptable for the rails not to bind
[20:19:20] <[cube]> most dudes use steel for frame
[20:19:23] <XXCoder> so even sloppy cuts ont matter
[20:19:41] <malcom2073> I was going to use steel, but it would cost more than this 8020 cost me. And I can always do a steel frame later and resell the 8020 if I'm careful about how I use it heh
[20:20:02] <[cube]> yeah for sure
[20:20:05] <malcom2073> I had a steel frame all designed up, it was 2500lbs
[20:20:10] <[cube]> yikes
[20:20:17] <[cube]> if only i had the space...
[20:20:21] <[cube]> need to build a barn lol
[20:20:33] <malcom2073> My rails are 30 and 35mm, so they can handle a lot of force. wanted to make a frame to match
[20:20:37] <Frank_7> me too, two days ago i saw too an *EXCELLENT* price on 8 square tube steel, 9.5
[20:20:40] <malcom2073> This 8020 frame is woefully underbuilt for the rails heh
[20:20:44] <Frank_7> 200x200mm square steel
[20:20:51] <[cube]> http://imgur.com/a/kjozp
[20:20:52] <Frank_7> wanted to build anotherone already
[20:20:56] <[cube]> total cost of that was about $25
[20:21:04] <[cube]> works great :)
[20:21:07] <XXCoder> lol
[20:21:12] <XXCoder> whatever works eh
[20:21:12] <malcom2073> Nice!~
[20:21:24] <[cube]> i just did a test with the planer
[20:21:28] <XXCoder> just $25, did you take the cone when you was drunk and woke up with it? ;)
[20:21:31] <[cube]> to csee how it handle sa flood of chips
[20:21:36] <[cube]> not a single chip went into the vac...
[20:21:45] <[cube]> haha
[20:21:49] <[cube]> i should have!
[20:21:50] <Frank_7> mine is going to weight 800lbs :/
[20:22:00] <XXCoder> woodgears guy used wood
[20:22:06] <Frank_7> 2500 lb? filled with lead?
[20:22:06] <[cube]> yeah
[20:22:09] <[cube]> im too lazy for that
[20:22:15] <XXCoder> saw another guy use just steel sheet
[20:22:24] <XXCoder> easy to just roll and rivet
[20:22:25] <[cube]> yeah, out of price range
[20:22:43] <XXCoder> I do want to try build one evenually
[20:22:48] <[cube]> there's a lot of force from the vacuum sucking the cone in
[20:22:55] <[cube]> if the steel was too thin it coul dcollapse
[20:23:02] <[cube]> so need need a good gauge
[20:23:10] <XXCoder> that or good rib system
[20:23:33] <XXCoder> anyway thats awesome job man
[20:23:34] <[cube]> this pylon one was a 1-day build
[20:23:35] <Frank_7> what annoys me is that now im actually a good welder, with this machine the welds aint PERFECT but do the job, and At least for me, i love welding
[20:24:02] <[cube]> its an art thats for sure
[20:25:32] <XXCoder> hmm wonder what I'd make cone out of
[20:25:41] <XXCoder> clear plastic'd be awesome lol
[20:25:51] <[cube]> ya!
[20:25:53] <XXCoder> heat, roll it certain way, then cut excess
[20:25:59] <[cube]> the next one i make (if ever) will be lexan
[20:26:01] <XXCoder> reheat, realign
[20:26:13] <[cube]> the tornado inside is so cool
[20:26:31] <[cube]> i'd love to see it inside the bucket too
[20:27:15] <[cube]> there is probably a good adhesive that chemicially welds acylic
[20:27:45] <Frank_7> fish tank adhesive look for
[20:27:53] <[cube]> ya
[20:30:26] <Duc_main> enleth: Did you need anymore pictures
[20:37:27] <Duc_main> Sync: What do you normally use for the switches on the EXE 602
[21:34:30] <Frank_7> does linuxcnc stops when the servo outpus an alarm? because my servo wiring spec. sheet makes a circuit to close the contactor when an alarm is issued
[21:42:34] <pcw_home> It can
[21:43:26] <Not-Renny> Hey, everybody.
[21:44:18] <Not-Renny> So, this is kind of a weird question. Would you guys recommend a ball bearing or Teflon bearing things for a linkage between a camshaft and power piston? It'll be for a lighter type engine.
[21:50:22] <XXCoder> someone has network issue heh
[21:54:19] <pcw_home> Frank_7: take a look at the motion manual page and especially axis.N.amp-fault-in
[21:55:48] <Frank_7> pcw, thanks ill keep that writen down, i dont know if i should wire the alarm issue to the contactor or directly to linuxcnc.. at least i know linuxcnc can take it
[21:57:40] <Frank_7> my brain starts to smoke up, i better be going to sleep, gn8 everyone
[23:57:00] <XXCoder> gonna love early summer
[23:57:05] <XXCoder> the nosebleed seasonb
