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[02:03:22] <archivist> witnit, I think that is a good idea, it would deal with a problem that came up on the list a week ago where someone was spinning the handle
[02:16:41] <archivist> witnit, although it may need a special modification to the feedback to the handle to avoid it back driving and actually spinning the wrong way
[02:18:29] <XXCoder> that'd be bad
[02:25:41] <archivist> trying to think how a "nut on a thread" (cannot back feed) could be implemented in hal,
[02:31:52] <Deejay> moin
[02:40:09] <XXCoder> hey
[02:40:17] <XXCoder> archivist: dunno?
[02:40:22] <XXCoder> not too sure what you mean
[02:40:30] <XXCoder> an aqxis that only goes one way?
[02:51:44] <archivist> if you were to push the axis, handle turn
[02:52:26] <archivist> normally stopped by the one way action of a leadscrew
[08:35:28] <jthornton> Sweet got my display working in ardweenie
[10:44:30] <Tom_itx> nice jthornton
[10:48:54] <zeeshan> :]
[10:50:43] <Tom_itx> learning a new program here
[10:50:57] <Tom_itx> having to translate all the examples from spanish and russian
[10:51:03] <Tom_itx> fun
[10:51:09] <zeeshan> rofl
[10:52:30] <Tom_itx> gotta be careful not to translate the wrong code instead of the notes
[10:54:52] <Tom_itx> whassup zeeshan?
[10:55:00] <zeeshan> wiring away
[10:55:23] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/Pv9eKha.jpg
[10:55:26] <zeeshan> got my harness done for the engine
[10:55:35] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/khbWAim.jpg
[10:55:39] <zeeshan> gauges done too :D
[10:57:03] <Tom_itx> lookin good
[10:57:16] <zeeshan> i need to figure out something
[10:57:22] <zeeshan> ive never seen this..
[10:57:54] <zeeshan> http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/molex-llc/0022013067/WM2004-ND/26439
[10:57:59] <zeeshan> i need the other connector for this
[10:58:24] <zeeshan> http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/molex-llc/0022232061/WM4204-ND/26675
[10:58:25] <zeeshan> i see this
[10:58:30] <zeeshan> but im looking for something with crimp
[10:58:42] <Polymorphism> zlog
[11:19:05] <JT-Shop> yuck my nano's have a fake FTDI chip and Windoz won't talk to it
[11:19:37] <Tom_itx> those are waldom connectors iirc
[11:19:42] <Tom_itx> i have some
[11:19:56] <Tom_itx> don't think those are crimp
[11:20:12] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop made in cheapchina?
[11:20:19] <JT-Shop> yea
[11:21:34] <Tom_itx> zeeshan they used something similar to those on the early full height ibm floppy drives iirc
[11:21:47] <zeeshan> hehe
[11:21:55] <Tom_itx> goin back to the future?
[11:21:58] <Polymorphism> JT-Shop, EASY fix
[11:22:02] <Polymorphism> install the driver
[11:22:10] * JT-Shop listens
[11:22:14] <Polymorphism> google chinese nano ftdi driver
[11:22:17] <Polymorphism> its out there, fixed it for me
[11:22:33] <Polymorphism> http://www.wch.cn/download/CH341SER_ZIP.html
[11:22:35] <Polymorphism> here I think
[11:23:46] <Tom_itx> http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-fix-bad-Chinese-Arduino-clones/
[11:24:16] <Polymorphism> same link
[11:24:21] <Polymorphism> works great
[11:25:31] <Tom_itx> it's got JT speak in it though
[11:31:42] <JT-Shop> I'll be dammed it worked :) thanks Polymorphism and Tom_itx
[11:32:06] <Polymorphism> =D np, glad its all set now
[11:32:08] <Tom_itx> there ain't a lock that can't be picked
[11:32:29] <JT-Shop> lol
[11:36:48] <Sync> there are
[11:38:20] <Tom_itx> just not yet :D
[11:39:19] <Sync> oh yes
[11:39:21] <Sync> there are a few
[11:39:28] <Sync> because you cannot access the keyway
[11:39:34] <Sync> so you can't impression it
[11:40:12] <Tom_itx> Smith N Wesson could pick it
[11:40:53] <JT-Shop> I prefer my Dan Wesson...
[11:41:42] <JT-Shop> and my sketch I did this morning on the uno loads on the nano YEA
[11:51:39] <Sync> zeeshan: built an adapter for those NOX sensors, that shit is pretty cool
[11:58:52] <Tom_itx> zeeshan after finishing the translation i found one in english :D
[12:13:18] <JT-Shop> what were you translating?
[12:15:16] <Tom_itx> http://www.xharbour.org/
[12:15:25] <Tom_itx> some sample code from one of those
[12:15:48] <Tom_itx> there are several, xharbour, harbour, hmg and a couple others that are quite similar
[12:19:19] <archivist> ew clipper, I didnt know it was still a thing
[12:19:58] <Tom_itx> i still use 5.2 in dos
[12:20:10] <Tom_itx> moving a couple apps to windows hopefully
[12:20:50] <Tom_itx> seems to be alive and well actually
[12:23:32] <archivist> I had to reverse engineer an app to prove it was ripped off from our code, then go to court
[12:24:14] <Tom_itx> there was alot of that going on back then
[12:42:46] <maxcnc> hi
[12:43:14] <maxcnc> Polymorphism: chinise use JST-xh connectors
[12:43:28] <maxcnc> non molex
[12:44:12] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: how much did the nao's you have cost? I pay ~$10 for ChinaCo Mega's
[12:44:35] <CaptHindsight> nano's/nano's
[12:44:45] <CaptHindsight> nao's/nano's
[12:44:53] <Tom_shop> yeah i've got a 2560 for about that
[12:45:08] <CaptHindsight> nao's sound like a Chinese original
[12:45:43] <Tom_itx> they started out with too small a chip in em
[12:45:46] <jthornton> and downloading from the xp to the clone nano is working too
[12:45:57] <jthornton> I think a reward of a nap is in order
[12:46:21] <jthornton> CaptHindsight: $3 or so
[12:47:28] <jthornton> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Nano-V3-ATmega168-CH340-MicroUSB-Compatible-for-Arduino-Nano-V3/32572993712.html
[12:47:34] <CaptHindsight> I don't think I've ever purchased a *duino from Italy
[12:47:36] <jthornton> $1.79
[12:52:40] <CaptHindsight> ^^ thats great, look what they charge for the Teensy Boards
https://www.pjrc.com/teensy/
[12:53:54] <maxcnc> isebnt ther already a mega328 on the nano
[13:00:58] <zeeshan> Sync: nice :D
[13:01:46] <Sync> yeah it is pretty neat
[13:03:06] <Sync> now I only need a HC/CO sensing solution and I can tune for the emissions shits
[13:07:19] <maxcnc> Sync: look at the heading control for wood they got that for cheep
[13:08:03] <maxcnc> it might be also i the LNG sniffers for household
[13:09:23] <maxcnc> im off heavy weather here in germany today hope shop is ok tomorrow Holiday in USA
[13:09:25] <Sync> if the sniffers would be calibrated, that would be an option
[13:09:50] <Sync> I will probably just buy a 4 gas tester and combine that with the AFR/NOX probe
[13:10:05] <maxcnc> good idee
[13:10:11] <maxcnc> Bye
[13:13:29] <CaptHindsight> https://www.instagram.com/p/BF7wQGkF8ZJ/ spacex landing view from the side of the craft
[13:14:49] <CaptHindsight> better on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jEz03Z8azc
[13:23:50] <BeachBumPete> brilliant
[14:11:40] <jthornton> what's a schematic pcb program for linux?
[14:13:35] <djdelorie> kicad or geda
[14:14:35] <Deejay> eagle ;)
[14:14:35] <djdelorie> or eagle if you like proprietary $$$
[14:14:35] <floppydisk-ph> Eagle does Linux, but my inexperienced opinion is kicad is cool...
[14:14:54] <jthornton> thanks
[14:14:56] <djdelorie> I prefer geda, but I'm biased...
[14:15:05] <floppydisk-ph> Eagle freeware... ? Limited, but free, I thought.
[14:15:11] <Deejay> jep
[14:16:13] <floppydisk-ph> Ie, eagle limited on board size and layers cz but probably get good for many hackers
[14:16:35] <floppydisk-ph> Texting - ugh
[14:16:50] <djdelorie> don't forget the free vendor lock-in too :-)
[14:17:39] <djdelorie> (I'm biased against eagle - the first part I used was a common part, and the eagle library got it wrong)
[14:24:05] <floppydisk-ph> Actually, that's why my inexperienced heart is with kicad. Plus, the cern connection
[15:34:32] <jthornton> 2 googles and 30 minutes to create this in fritzing
https://ibin.co/2irFlgZVnPyr.png
[15:46:52] <floppydisk-ph> Nice fritz. Fool
[15:47:03] <floppydisk-ph> Cool..
[15:48:00] <floppydisk-ph> I suck at texting
[16:28:33] <Deejay> gn8
[16:43:03] <Crom> hmm gotta figure better way to get apps to switch between different $DISPLAY's
[16:43:35] <Crom> now out on the back porch on my linuxcnc itx boxen
[16:44:06] <Crom> using tightvnc off my living room linuxcnc machine
[16:45:36] <djdelorie> I have multiple virtual displays on my local window manager, and have apps on different machines show up on different desktops, so a hotkey switches "machines"
[17:02:58] <cpresser> jthornton: you don't really need the pullups on the switches. the atmega has internal ones (which need to be activated)
[17:23:53] <JT-Shop> how do you activate them?
[17:26:57] <Polymorphism> 5000 forum posts read, countless PMs, 2 dozen channels checked, 20 indivuals spoken to in depth, including professionals in the field, 70 emails exchanged with george from xzero. 3 months have elapsed. 500 hours of research. I have purchased a cnc.
[17:29:06] <Sync> as if
[17:42:29] <JT-Shop> cpresser, I'm pulling the inputs to 0v
[18:13:02] <Tom_itx> i don't like to rely on the internal pullups personally
[18:13:15] <Tom_itx> they're weak to begin with
[18:13:31] <JT-Shop> yea it would complicate the code for me
[18:13:33] <Tom_itx> DDRx gets set for input or output
[18:13:38] <Tom_itx> data direction register
[18:13:52] <Tom_itx> i never bothered with internal ones
[18:14:11] <Tom_itx> iirc a '1' is output and '0' is input
[18:15:16] <Tom_itx> you can use macros to set them if you prefer
[18:15:55] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/avr/c_bits/bits_index.php
[18:15:58] <Tom_itx> near the bottom
[18:16:36] <JT-Shop> yea, I saw that the other day when googling
[18:17:07] <Tom_itx> i generally try to label the register bits for clarity
[18:17:12] <JT-Shop> got the ardweeiny code working now to get a grasp on programing the 328
[18:17:22] <Tom_itx> yeah i saw that
[18:17:25] <Tom_itx> glad you got it working
[18:17:41] <JT-Shop> yea it boost my confidence a bit
[18:17:45] <JT-Shop> boosts
[18:18:55] <JT-Shop> time to fire up the barbie and cook some corn on the cob and a porterhouse
[18:19:07] <Tom_itx> DDRB = 0xFF; // set up directions
[18:19:09] <Tom_itx> all output
[18:19:29] <pcw_home> On our FPGA cards we use external pullups because the internal pull-ups/pull-downs have really unpredictable values
[18:20:12] <Tom_itx> another way i do it is like this:
[18:20:13] <Tom_itx> #define OUTPUT 1
[18:20:14] <Tom_itx> #define INPUT 0
[18:20:23] <Tom_itx> DDRB = (OUTPUT << PB0 | OUTPUT << PB1 |OUTPUT << PB2 |OUTPUT << PB3 |OUTPUT << PB4 |OUTPUT << PB5 |OUTPUT << PB6 |OUTPUT << PB7);
[18:20:49] <Tom_itx> if that makes more sense to you
[18:24:29] <JT-Shop> false alarm not cooking for 30 min
[18:25:21] <JT-Shop> DDRB is all the digital pins?
[18:26:29] <Tom_L> yeah it's the data direction register for portb
[18:26:40] <Tom_L> sets up input or output
[18:26:54] <Tom_L> you set other registers for the alternate function for any given pin
[18:27:25] <Tom_L> there's DDRB PORTB PINB
[18:27:41] <Tom_L> all defined in the part header file
[18:27:43] <JT-Shop> which pins are portb?
[18:28:10] <Tom_L> P2 of the data sheet
[18:28:28] <Tom_L> (usually)
[18:28:48] <Tom_L> i'd print that page for reference
[18:29:44] <JT-Shop> found the register description page
[18:30:00] <Tom_L> yeah that's at the back
[18:30:28] <JT-Shop> register summery?
[18:30:36] <Tom_L> sounds right yes
[18:30:57] <JT-Shop> 2 1/2 pages
[18:31:00] <Tom_L> unless you need the details i'd use that instead of the full description
[18:31:02] <Tom_L> yep
[18:31:27] <Tom_L> now fix this damn code for me...
[18:31:29] <JT-Shop> 0x0B (0x2B) PORTD PORTD7 PORTD6 PORTD5 PORTD4 PORTD3 PORTD2 PORTD1 PORTD0
[18:31:39] <JT-Shop> damn code?
[18:31:48] <Tom_L> this convesion i'm working on
[18:32:06] <Tom_L> i had to steal a screen from the other pc and get serious with it
[18:32:37] <Tom_L> got the first screen formatted almost like i want it now i gotta combine it with another program
[18:32:47] <JT-Shop> what does it do?
[18:32:55] <Tom_L> database management
[18:33:56] <JT-Shop> I used to program in .... what was it now
[18:34:22] <Tom_L> this is a windows version of clipper
[18:34:29] <Tom_L> converting some old code
[18:34:45] <Tom_L> basically a complete rewrite
[18:35:36] <JT-Shop> back in the day there was dBase and Foxpro, I programmed in Foxpro
[18:35:49] <Tom_L> i've still got dbase
[18:35:58] <Tom_L> this can use foxpro files
[18:36:24] <Tom_L> allows for replaceable drivers
[18:36:29] <JT-Shop> I still have foxpro but it is not installed on any computer
[18:36:49] <Tom_L> i still have dbase and clipper and they both are installed :D
[18:36:51] <Sync> oh god, the flashbacks
[18:37:04] <JT-Shop> what do they run on?
[18:37:06] <Sync> I had to reverse engineer some dbase stuff
[18:37:10] <Sync> the cancer was real
[18:37:39] <Tom_L> i can still run this in a 32bit 7 window
[18:37:43] <Tom_L> not 64bit
[18:37:52] <Tom_L> the new one should work on either
[18:38:02] <JT-Shop> I had a spreadsheet once that was so huge when printed out it wall papered my office
[18:38:35] <Tom_L> i used to have fanfold printouts of code clear across the floor
[18:38:59] <JT-Shop> yea pin feed ledger paper a mile long lol
[18:39:46] * JT-Shop wanders up to see if the swamp has drained
[18:46:34] <JT-Shop> deepen the ditches a bit hope it drains tonight
[18:51:51] <Tom_L> flooding here too
[18:53:32] <JT-Shop> hasn't rained for 2 days still trying to drain the big dig lol
[18:55:10] <JT-Shop> ok for real time to fire up the barbie
[19:08:21] <arauchfuss> anyone have a preferred connector for use with stepper motors? Screw or bayonet.
[19:09:34] <jdh> 4pin mic connector
[19:09:57] <Tecan> velcro
[19:10:33] <malcom2073> 4 pin deutch
[19:11:02] <Tom_L> din are cheap
[19:11:27] <malcom2073> Deutsch DT are like $10 per side with pins, and are water/oil/chip proof
[19:11:34] <malcom2073> Convenient if you don't have everything tucked away heh
[19:12:24] <arauchfuss> Cool
[19:13:29] <arauchfuss> don't think I am going to use the deutsch for the time being, but when I start adding flood coolant that sounds like a good bet.
[19:14:06] <arauchfuss> going to buy one of those aluminum amp enclosures on ebay.
[19:14:33] <arauchfuss> and clean everything up now that most everything works.
[19:16:11] <arauchfuss> might buy a new motherboard and see if I can stuff everything into the same box.
[19:16:45] <arauchfuss> kinda doubtful though, due to airflow worries
[19:17:34] <Frank_2> hi :D
[19:22:29] <Crom> back to working on my not so yoocnc controller again. pulled the bob/driver board out, put in a standalone bob and going to be running thb6600 drivers boards
[19:27:42] <jdh> mine has a standalone bob + drivers
[19:34:40] <Crom> mine had the Yoocnc NT65-3X 3 axis driver
[19:55:46] <Frank_2> guys this motherboard is like a dinosaur even for linuxcnc right? i tried to find if someone used it before, but no matches
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=91#specification
[20:02:26] <pcw_home> might be OK
[20:03:14] <Frank_2> yeah, im looking in the motherboard page wiki whats the closest
[20:04:28] <Frank_2> pcw, next month im ordering 5i25 and 7i76, i
[20:06:34] <Frank_2> i would still need a video card right? even with the mesa cards?
[20:19:09] <Frank_2> yes i will T_T
[20:19:19] <Frank_2> need
[20:24:57] <Polymorphism> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAvfrrlMZg4
[20:27:40] <Polymorphism> http://www.nanotechsys.com/machines/nanotech-250uplv2-ultra-precision-lathe/
[20:29:15] <malcom2073> going for lathes now?
[20:29:39] <Polymorphism> seeing whats out there
[20:29:46] <Frank_2> heh
[20:29:56] <malcom2073> You turning lenses now?
[20:30:19] <pcw_home> Frank_2: onboard video is probably OK
[20:30:19] <Polymorphism> anything is possible
[20:31:53] <Frank_2> that would be cool thanks pcw for the input
[20:35:23] <Polymorphism> http://www.keyence.com/products/measure/micrometer/tm-3000/index.jsp
[20:36:30] <Polymorphism> that would be nice to have
[20:37:01] <Frank_2> i want autocollimator
[20:37:03] <Frank_2> :D
[20:37:28] <Polymorphism> so do I, after googling it
[20:37:32] <jdh> I have a bunch of keyence lasermics at work
[20:38:03] <Frank_2> hehehe
[20:38:34] <Polymorphism> dear santa
[20:39:39] <Frank_2> i've been good so far :)
[20:40:02] <Frank_2> not even santa can afford that
[20:45:29] <Polymorphism> xD
[20:45:48] <Polymorphism> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7FHfAx0yTk
[20:45:52] <Polymorphism> big chips
[20:50:03] <Polymorphism> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsSo5qOGk6c
[20:50:05] <Polymorphism> chip porn
[20:56:16] <Frank_2> beautifull
[21:57:35] <XXCoder> dang
[21:57:39] <XXCoder> thats shiny finish
[21:59:06] <XXCoder> man Polymorphism thats big heh wanna one>?
[22:01:32] <XXCoder> nicely blue chips
[22:04:43] <XXCoder> Polymorphism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY2jv4GWUhQ
