#linuxcnc | Logs for 2016-05-11

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[00:05:02] <FloppyDisk> Polymorphism - congrats. Can't wait to hear how you like it.
[01:57:59] <maxcnc> morning from a sunny germany
[02:00:46] <maxcnc> have a nice working day where ecer you are SMILE even on Bitbreak ;-)
[02:22:38] <Deejay> moin
[02:27:22] <alex4nder> sup
[04:48:25] <mase-tech> HI
[04:53:57] <XXCoder> booyah
[05:24:50] <mase-tech> XXCoder: Hi man
[05:24:56] <XXCoder> whats up
[05:25:40] <mase-tech> I am fooling my lessons today in favor of building my cnc toy
[06:01:11] <XXCoder> missing classes? tsk tsk'
[06:01:19] <XXCoder> also, bamboo death star https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AgD5NUzyOE
[06:45:36] <XXCoder> hey CaptHindsight you alive?
[07:01:22] <XXCoder> archivist: know what proper name for part that moves down and up with ball screw?
[07:01:41] <XXCoder> balls crew block something?
[07:04:33] <Sync> o0
[07:04:36] <Sync> you mean the nut?
[07:05:10] <XXCoder> hmm probably. though in this case its block that connects ballscrew and 2 rods
[07:05:20] <XXCoder> and holds on to spindle by clamp attached to it
[07:06:15] <Sync> wat
[07:07:11] <XXCoder> http://g03.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB174BlHVXXXXbNXXXXq6xXFXXXQ/3040-CNC-aluminium-alloy-Frame-ball-screw-with-43mm-Neck-Spindle-Mount.jpg
[07:07:46] <XXCoder> been trying to figure how to figure design so I can make adoptor plate
[07:08:00] <XXCoder> so i can attach larger 52 mm spindle to it
[07:08:25] <Sync> you just make the same thing but for a larger spindle?
[07:08:45] <XXCoder> there is plenty 52 mm clamp can buy
[07:08:51] <XXCoder> qand kits always has it too
[07:09:06] <XXCoder> I rather just make adoptor plate than make entire clamp
[07:09:45] <Sync> why? doesn't really seem like that much more work to just make a clamp
[07:09:56] <XXCoder> dont own machine that can make one
[07:10:13] <Sync> just make one at work after hours
[07:10:25] <XXCoder> "after hours" is 2 am :)
[07:10:39] <XXCoder> with building locked down so i cant exit
[07:10:54] <Sync> that is illegal
[07:11:36] <XXCoder> while simpler 2d design I can either manually make, or use my machine (27000 rpm is fast I'll probably ruin tool but will make one)
[07:11:43] <maxcnc> hi all 25deg C full sun out today
[07:11:52] <XXCoder> Sync: can exit but I cant turn off alarm lol
[07:12:19] <Sync> well, you can probably just spindle the hole and the rest is just some drillpress work
[07:12:35] <XXCoder> I suppose yeah
[07:12:51] <XXCoder> though I'm also not sure on how to know correct dimension for holes distance
[07:13:47] <Sync> use a caliper on the existing part?
[07:14:03] <XXCoder> how precise do i need to be anyway
[07:15:32] <Sync> the large hole should be H7
[07:15:40] <Sync> the rest is pretty unimportant
[07:16:13] <maxcnc> why dont you ise a adaptor setup with changebal spindel mounts
[07:16:25] <XXCoder> changebal?
[07:17:06] <maxcnc> i got on the 3040 a simple 20x5 pocket that can hold multipple tools
[07:17:13] <maxcnc> on there adapters
[07:17:27] <XXCoder> did your 3040 come with default 43 mm clamp for spindle?
[07:17:39] <maxcnc> so its only 2 M6 screws to make it a CNC paper cutter with rotating knive
[07:17:48] <maxcnc> a laser Cutter
[07:17:55] <maxcnc> a mill
[07:18:13] <maxcnc> proxxon mount
[07:18:30] <maxcnc> 42mm mount for Kress
[07:20:40] <XXCoder> so you made adoptor to put in 52 mm spindle?
[07:22:47] <XXCoder> maxcnc: http://www.zenbotcnc.com/mounts/proxxon-mount ?
[07:22:52] <maxcnc> for the big spindels its better to go wit side protectors like http://heimwerkermarkt-tretter.de/ENC2.mpg
[07:23:40] <maxcnc> http://landauer-weihnachtscircus-gmbh.de/mini_cnc.jpg
[07:23:52] <maxcnc> thats the proxxon
[07:24:30] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY7nXzcUI9M
[07:24:39] <XXCoder> thats what my cnc looks like
[07:25:03] <XXCoder> I want to change that el cheapo "spindle" to actual spindle
[07:26:18] <maxcnc> so you got the same as there are 2 screws in the frot for quick change
[07:26:41] <XXCoder> but I cant find any 52 mm spindle holder that will fit my machinbe
[07:26:56] <maxcnc> make it yourself
[07:27:00] <XXCoder> well
[07:27:06] <maxcnc> the mashie will do it
[07:27:07] <XXCoder> thats what i was saying lol
[07:27:19] <maxcnc> slow and easy
[07:27:27] <XXCoder> I dont have design for bolt pattern on block itself
[07:27:33] <XXCoder> so design is uncertain
[07:27:35] <archivist> measure
[07:28:43] <XXCoder> and stock 52mm may conflict as it is 70 mm wide between holes and as I figure it, slightly less than 64 mm wide
[07:28:45] <maxcnc> XXCoder: what is the problem with tha ali one
[07:28:53] <maxcnc> http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Spindle-Cast-Aluminium-Fixture-Clamp-52mm-Spindle-Mount-Holder-Bracket-For-CNC-EngravingMachine-Motor-Spindle-Fixture/801662_32441091317.html
[07:29:20] <XXCoder> maxcnc: bolt holes is 70 mm wide, my machine bolt holes is around 63.8 mm wide
[07:29:45] <maxcnc> this shoudt do a adaper plate as you also need one
[07:29:51] <XXCoder> yeah
[07:29:59] <Sync> meh, heavy duty tripods are hard to come by
[07:30:03] <XXCoder> I want to use all 6 bolt holes to attach adoptpor plate
[07:30:21] <XXCoder> then adoptor plate itself has 4 bolt holes for that clamp
[07:30:44] <maxcnc> figure out the best you can go
[07:30:52] <XXCoder> yeah probably a little whil;e
[07:31:00] <maxcnc> the el capo is real loud
[07:31:07] <XXCoder> el capo?
[07:31:11] <archivist> Sync, less common now TV cameras are smaller
[07:31:16] <maxcnc> the pindel you got
[07:31:20] <Sync> well, yeah archivist
[07:31:25] <maxcnc> or is it the bit in action #
[07:31:26] <XXCoder> pindel?
[07:31:29] <Sync> I need something that will reliably support 20kg
[07:31:42] <XXCoder> youre using words I'm not what it means
[07:31:47] <maxcnc> ok im off till later coustom in
[07:31:52] <archivist> Sync, only 20kg see Vinten
[07:33:04] <Sync> yeah, I'm debating to either get a vinten, libec, linhof or sachtler
[07:33:19] <Sync> the annoying thing is that all the video tripods have the ball cup mount
[07:33:38] <archivist> mine dont have a ball
[07:34:16] <Sync> well http://www.fotostudiolampen.de/WebRoot/Store17/Shops/64233817/532C/2358/1E81/B866/0110/C0A8/2AB8/9DAD/HT-6601-E.jpg
[07:34:19] <archivist> also tripods for surveying gear
[07:34:22] <Sync> that is how alot of them look
[07:34:34] <Sync> yeah surveying tripods are ok, but they usually just have sharp feet
[07:35:08] <archivist> you can get dollies with wheels to go under feet
[07:36:47] <Sync> hm, something like a libec t97c would be nice
[07:39:11] <Sync> yeah I think it has to be carbon fiber
[07:39:18] <Sync> otherwise it just gets too heavy
[07:40:10] <archivist> I know about the weight :) I have to break down a lot to move a camera and tripod
[07:40:30] <archivist> camera body alone two man lift
[07:41:31] <Sync> sachtler system 20 doesn't look bad
[07:42:14] <archivist> I have seen sachtler, look light
[07:42:42] <Sync> apparently it supports 20kg
[07:43:36] <archivist> somewhat expensive though
[07:44:14] <Sync> 11k or something new, yeah
[07:44:21] <Sync> don't need the head tho
[07:44:26] <archivist> what are you putting on it though
[07:44:31] <Sync> my faro arm
[07:45:17] <archivist> you might want something with more weight and rigidity then
[07:47:00] <archivist> think of the arm fully out, the leverage
[07:47:05] <Sync> sure
[07:47:16] <Sync> look at faros product pictures
[07:47:22] <Sync> their tripods are also pretty light
[07:47:22] <archivist> very much designed for vertical load
[07:47:51] <Sync> some of them are pretty massive tho, but not all of them
[07:50:18] <archivist> silly prices for second hand too http://www.manchester-metrology.com/SECOND-USER-EQUIPMENT-FOR-SALE.html
[07:50:24] <archivist> make something
[07:50:47] <Sync> in the time spent making something I could have bought something ;)
[07:50:52] <Sync> that's my current problem
[07:52:18] <archivist> some of the sachtler may be too light unless you hang a weight on the middle
[07:52:37] <Sync> yeah, not sure
[07:53:00] <archivist> I have had cameras topple :)
[07:53:42] <Sync> the tripods are relatively simple tho
[07:55:22] * Jymmm tosses sandbags to archivist
[07:55:39] <archivist> the video tripods are possible less well constrained rotationally so may affect accuracy
[07:56:02] <Sync> hm, I wonder if there is easy to get carbon fiber pipes that are calibrated on the OD
[07:56:21] <Jymmm> pipes or tubes?
[07:57:02] <Sync> hosepipes
[07:57:08] <Sync> or tubehoses
[07:57:15] <Jymmm> O_o
[07:57:48] <Jymmm> Sync: Now, WTF are you wanting?
[07:57:51] <jthornton> Tom_itx: you around?
[07:58:31] <Jymmm> Sync: ... and what dimensions?
[07:58:49] <Sync> http://www.carbonscout-shop.de/pic/1082a.jpg stuff like that Jymmm
[07:59:01] <Jymmm> Sync: ... and what dimensions?
[07:59:11] <jthornton> what is a good avr development board
[07:59:15] <Sync> like that ;)
[07:59:20] <Sync> well, idk maybe 40mm OD
[07:59:24] <Sync> maybe less
[07:59:25] <Jymmm> jthornton: SDK500
[07:59:45] <Jymmm> jthornton: application?
[08:00:01] <gregcnc> telescoping carbon tubing
[08:00:17] <Sync> no, not telescoping, that is tapered
[08:00:29] <jthornton> lcd display
[08:00:41] <Jymmm> jthornton: for spyder?
[08:00:52] <jthornton> plc
[08:01:18] <Jymmm> jthornton: you can use arduino for that and even OLED display (which I think is nicer imo)
[08:02:06] <gregcnc> what are you sing it for? https://www.rockwestcomposites.com/round-tubing/round-carbon-fiber-tubing
[08:03:12] <jthornton> I just need cheap display of error messages the OLED is nice but
[08:03:24] <Sync> building a tripod gregcnc
[08:03:38] <gregcnc> one different than you can buy?
[08:03:47] <Sync> no, but cheaper, probably
[08:04:05] <Jymmm> jthornton: I use a Arduino Nano https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEZGn0zYHiE
[08:05:20] <Jymmm> jthornton: Evenif doing simple text messages, you can adjust the font size, oled readable day/night,
[08:05:39] <jthornton> are they $9 or less?
[08:05:44] <Jymmm> yes
[08:05:47] <Jymmm> from china
[08:06:28] <jthornton> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-1Pcs-128X64-OLED-LCD-LED-Display-Module-For-Arduino-0-96-I2C-IIC-SPI/32224983358.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_0,searchweb201602_2_10037_10017_10034_10021_507_10022_10032_10020_10018_10019,searchweb201603_6&btsid=6f7b7208-a5f7-4cad-8aa8-76c6b9458350
[08:06:36] <Jymmm> jthornton: $3.79 free shipping
[08:07:11] <Jymmm> jthornton: Dont get white, it's really more of a grey. Get blue, it's pleasant on the eyes
[08:07:23] <Jymmm> dont get the blue/yellow either
[08:07:46] <Jymmm> unless you want to do deal the yellow bar at the top
[08:08:14] <Jymmm> top 8 rows of yellow pixels that is
[08:09:17] <jthornton> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-96-inch-oled-display-with-4-SPI-default-IIC-free-shipping/32622345456.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_0,searchweb201602_2_10037_10017_10034_10021_507_10022_10032_10020_10018_10019,searchweb201603_6&btsid=acb22926-19ed-4055-b0d8-0e3ab25a8170
[08:10:20] <Jymmm> that looks righ
[08:10:22] <Jymmm> t
[08:10:30] <Jymmm> you want wifi?
[08:10:40] <jthornton> no
[08:11:28] <Jymmm> Nano http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Nano-V3-ATmega168-CH340-MicroUSB-Compatible-for-Arduino-Nano-V3/32572993712.html
[08:12:28] <Jymmm> jthornton: nd dupont cables MM, MF, FF http://www.aliexpress.com/item/120pcs-20cm-male-male-male-female-and-female-jumper-wire-Dupont-cable-for-Arduino/1728903423.html
[08:12:37] <Jymmm> *And
[08:12:47] <Jymmm> jthornton: you have a breadboard?
[08:13:04] <jthornton> yes
[08:14:09] <Jymmm> jthornton: Optional http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MB102-Breadboard-Power-Supply-Module-3-3V-5V-For-Solderless/2055098961.html
[08:14:24] <Jymmm> but you dont need 3.3 so nevermind
[08:16:34] <Jymmm> jthornton: what voltages are the PLC?
[08:16:56] <Jymmm> 12V? 24v?
[08:18:41] <jthornton> usually 24vdc
[08:18:52] <jthornton> or relay outputs
[08:19:33] <Jymmm> jthornton: but not bi-directional?
[08:19:51] <jthornton> the plc outputs?
[08:20:07] <Jymmm> whatever you are ging to connect the display to I supplse
[08:20:15] <Jymmm> suppose*
[08:20:39] <Jymmm> will there be a btton to scroll? clear error message?
[08:20:40] <jthornton> I need to use the plc outputs to the avr inputs to toggle between messages
[08:21:09] <Jymmm> So out from PLC only?
[08:21:19] <Jymmm> no input to plc?
[08:21:28] <jthornton> if output 1 is on display message 1 if output 2 is on display message 2 if both 1 and 2 are on display message 3
[08:21:39] <jthornton> no input to plc
[08:22:39] <Jymmm> Ok, Just in case you need to level shift http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-5pcs-lot-4-channel-IIC-I2C-Logic-Level-Converter-Bi-Directional-Module-5V-to/32310624938.html See datasheet
[08:23:16] <Jymmm> 5v is NOT the limit, more like 60V iirc, see datasheet
[08:23:54] <Jymmm> 50V@.22a
[08:24:30] <jthornton> so I can use 24vdc outputs as well as relay outputs?
[08:25:01] <Jymmm> 24v plc <-> 5v arduino
[08:25:12] <Jymmm> bi-directional too =)
[08:26:02] <Jymmm> You get 5 for $1.60
[08:27:11] <Jymmm> It'll come in the WORLDS SMALLEST international package you've ever seen. I kid you night =)
[08:27:19] <Jymmm> not*
[08:28:41] <jthornton> thanks, I'll give that a whirl in a few weeks when the tiny packages arrive
[08:29:24] <Jymmm> cool, *I* like the nano, but others like the regular size arduinos so they can use "shield"
[08:29:52] <Jymmm> which are just daughter cards
[08:31:03] <Jymmm> jthornton: But, if you are going to go theu all that, might as well have some fun too.... http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-NeoPixel-Stick-8-channel-WS2812-5050-RGB-LED-lights-built-in-full-color-driven/32299796184.html
[08:35:28] <jthornton> thanks, gotta run now
[08:40:28] <gregcnc> put your message on an rc chopper https://youtu.be/3sEft-xooXM?t=1m36s
[09:02:43] <Polymorphism> very close to decision
[09:03:28] <archivist> lies
[09:39:24] <_methods> jthornton: how far are you from lenexa?
[09:58:27] <Nick001-shop> When I use axis calibrate, do I have to restart axis each change of PID values to test them with HalScope?
[10:01:16] <Polymorphism> what other tools do I need, if any?
[10:01:23] <Polymorphism> can I purchase my stock in sizes thast will fit
[10:01:29] <Polymorphism> or should I be looking at a table saw to cut my stock
[10:01:59] <Polymorphism> for wood, sheet metal I'm assuming I could get the sizes I need to fit the bed and use the machine to cut it up
[10:02:04] <Polymorphism> hmm
[10:03:01] <pcw_home> Nick001-shop: no
[10:04:18] <pcw_home> you can update the live tuning values with the test button
[10:05:26] <pcw_home> ( and write the current values back to the ini file so save them with "Save To File" )
[10:07:43] <Nick001-shop> Thanks
[10:07:44] <alex4nder> Polymorphism: you can purchase stock that will fit, from retail suppliers
[10:07:56] <alex4nder> but you will save money by being able to cut it yourself
[10:08:31] <Polymorphism> ok
[10:11:12] <alex4nder> it depends on volume though
[10:21:36] <Polymorphism> small batch stuff
[10:21:38] <Polymorphism> prototyping
[10:21:40] <Polymorphism> one-offs
[10:27:15] <MacGalempsy> hello
[11:20:52] <_methods> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/117421627/the-peachy-printer-the-first-100-3d-printer-and-sc/posts/1572573
[11:20:53] <_methods> lol
[11:20:57] <_methods> dats funny
[11:23:08] <_methods> another kickstarter success
[11:23:40] <gregcnc> dude just spent the money?
[11:23:44] <_methods> yeah lol
[11:23:46] <_methods> on a new house
[11:23:48] <_methods> hahahahah
[11:24:49] <_methods> and he filmed his confessions lol
[11:25:06] <_methods> i guess those 3d printer fumes are hazardous to your brain cells afterall
[11:45:14] <archivist> they do need a few good fails to teach the gullible about risk
[11:48:00] <_methods> well i think paypal just changed their ToS to not offer protection for crowdfunded stuff anymore
[11:50:22] <archivist> yup saw the paypal change :)
[11:50:49] <_methods> i'm surprised they've offered protection this long
[12:00:59] <saldot> hi. me noob. What's the default location for the .ini config files?
[12:04:02] <archivist> there are groups of files, .ini .hal etc usually in a directory of a named config
[12:04:23] <CaptHindsight> heh the peachy 2
[12:05:04] <CaptHindsight> nah, those backers are fanatics, like most 3d printer folks
[12:05:16] <archivist> saldot, so if you create a config using stepconf, a directory will be made with a set of defaults
[12:05:55] <CaptHindsight> logic and reason have little to do with their devoted following of these projects
[12:07:02] * Jymmm hands out the kool aid
[12:07:50] <CaptHindsight> kick the fence next to a few in this channel and see them spout off on their glue guns
[12:08:25] <saldot> archivist: i already have the config files needed but dont know where to place them.
[12:08:45] <saldot> but perhaps i need to run the initial config to create the folders where the files should be place?
[12:08:49] <saldot> *placed
[12:09:40] <archivist> I usually use stepconf or copy a set into a new directory
[12:15:48] <maxcnc> hi all
[12:17:52] <maxcnc> saldot: best to first start LCNC with a sim mashine then all folders are there
[12:18:11] <maxcnc> then copy your folder into config
[12:18:54] <maxcnc> if you have a newer LCNC version then 2.5 you may neeed some changes in your old config mashine files
[12:20:43] <maxcnc> Polymorphism: as close then he last month i guess
[12:21:30] <CaptHindsight> https://openaps.org/what-is-openaps/ I wonder if the FDA will step in a create legislation against DIYing medical devices
[12:22:48] <maxcnc> _methods: the new version of freesculpter2 is amazing
[12:23:04] <maxcnc> at that price tag
[12:31:19] <saldot> maxcnc: good suggestions, thanks. I'll try a sim machine first, the linuxCNC that i had running on this machine before was quite old
[12:32:42] <archivist> see upgrading notes, may have to edit
[12:33:59] <archivist> I sometimes use a merge tool like meld to do an upgrade
[12:34:02] <FinboySlick> Jymmm: Conveniently, the peachy printers do look like they contain kool aid.
[12:34:26] <archivist> I thought it looked like snake oil
[12:38:14] <CaptHindsight> the resin has to be lower density than salt water
[12:38:39] <CaptHindsight> since the resin floats on top of the salt water
[12:39:59] <CaptHindsight> since the resin floats the printer has to placed somewhere that it won't shake or the prints come out distorted
[12:40:38] <CaptHindsight> it's like milling and using a sandbox vs a vise to hold the material
[12:43:06] <CaptHindsight> https://3dprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/peachy3.jpg so it's a way to take a tech and make it worse
[12:43:20] <CaptHindsight> the prints come out about as low res as FDM
[12:43:51] <CaptHindsight> https://3dprint.com/68906/peachy-printer/
[12:44:54] <CaptHindsight> I think that the galvo was controlled by the sound card
[12:58:48] <alex4nder> Polymorphism: I use an angle grinder with a cut-off wheel for quickly trimming up stock
[13:05:37] <maxcnc> im off Gn9
[13:23:21] <Polymorphism> peachy is dead
[13:24:04] <Polymorphism> is there info to run the 6040 ebays with linuxcnc?
[13:24:09] <Polymorphism> or should I be looking for a USB one
[13:24:16] <Polymorphism> for mach3
[13:24:33] <Polymorphism> I thought Loetmichel2 runs a 6040. maybe he has the settings I would need
[13:24:40] <Polymorphism> although it may differ machine to machine
[13:24:48] <archivist> it is rude to ask about mmmmmmmack in here
[13:25:12] <Polymorphism> no it isnt
[13:25:15] <Polymorphism> especially the way I phrased it
[13:25:25] <Polymorphism> I asked if linuxcnc can drive the machine via parallel
[13:26:36] <Polymorphism> I wouldnt want to plan for than and then find out its somehow mach3 only, and then wish I had gotten the USB version so I could use laptop rather than then needing to build a windows xp machine with parallel port and purchase mach 3 to drive it, the worst case scenario
[13:26:50] <Polymorphism> that*
[13:27:21] <Polymorphism> my preference of course being linuxcnc, as I prefer linux in all aspects of my life
[13:27:41] <Jymmm> It is rude
[13:27:54] <Polymorphism> asking about linuxcnc is rude?
[13:28:09] <_methods> zlog
[13:39:05] <djdelorie> "do you think I should use your competitor?" No, you should never use our competitor. Ever.
[13:42:32] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD5Wnb0f1rg PaperID: A Technique for Drawing Functional Battery-Free Wireless Interfaces on Paper
[13:43:14] <gregcnc> disney?
[13:44:39] <CaptHindsight> yeah, they have recently been publishing/patenting some flashy tech
[13:47:06] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23X5-L5qlyM Wall-Climbing Robot
[14:32:29] <mase-tech> I got a design for lowcost cnc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPClUTfKB-o
[14:32:59] <mase-tech> Parmesan could be to hard
[14:33:23] <mase-tech> :D
[14:35:43] <Jymmm> Just had a container holding 16,000 sq ft of concentrated pesticide drop, burst, and splash all over me. Fun times... NOT! (Yay for respirators)
[14:36:43] <FinboySlick> Jymmm: I think it got to you before it splashed. Volume is measured in cubic inches ;)
[14:36:54] <FinboySlick> Well, cubic units I mean.
[14:37:20] <Jymmm> Just had a container holding 16,000 sq ft *WORTH* of concentrated pesticide drop, burst, and splash all over me. Fun times... NOT! (Yay for respirators)
[14:37:23] <Jymmm> happy now?
[14:37:41] <FinboySlick> You got that in metric?
[14:38:19] <FinboySlick> More seriously though. Are you okay?
[14:38:57] <Jymmm> Yeah, thus the respirator. Hint: PP container + UV lught == Big No No
[14:39:13] <Jymmm> light*
[14:40:35] <Jymmm> I have another sprayer, but not enough water pressure to use it. I need some kind of pump
[14:40:48] <djdelorie> no flies on you for a while ;-)
[14:42:51] <Jymmm> djdelorie: No flies, wasps, spiders, mosquitos, beetles, terminates, ants, and a few other things too I suspect =)
[14:43:15] <Jymmm> You have to register to even buy this stuff.
[14:43:17] <djdelorie> feel free to come visit and roll around my lawn for a while :-)
[14:43:49] <Jymmm> lol
[14:53:20] <Jymmm> Who's got half decent shallow well / jet pumps for potable water?
[14:53:35] <Jymmm> 110 or 220
[14:54:00] <Jymmm> or if really inexpensive, 12VDC
[14:54:21] <djdelorie> normally I'd ask my wife... she works for a company that does water systems... location?
[14:54:38] <Jymmm> California
[14:55:02] <Jymmm> Northern
[14:55:06] <djdelorie> We're in NH
[14:55:14] <Jymmm> ah
[14:55:26] <djdelorie> (they ship everywhere but if you're cost sensitive...)
[14:55:57] <djdelorie> http://represcott.com/
[14:56:47] <Jymmm> djdelorie: Do they have samples? lol
[14:57:10] <djdelorie> only if you visit their office :-)
[16:35:08] <Deejay> gn8
[17:19:47] <Cromaglious_> grrrr trying to update to MarlinKimbra on the laser cutter, not it's not lazing
[17:19:54] <Cromaglious_> s/not/now/
[17:51:26] <witnit> Does anyone have any free "cam" generating software, cam as in lumpy wheel
[18:10:38] <JT-Shopp> Tom_itx: you around?
[18:16:17] <sabrexx> has anyone seen the new omiocnc x8-2200?
[18:16:38] <JT-Shopp> only th y7-1100
[18:17:02] <sabrexx> oh ok i didn't really like that one
[18:17:43] <sabrexx> https://www.omiocnc.com/products/x8-2200.html
[18:20:27] <witnit> PCW, pcw_home: Could I do a complete mesa build around these actuators, including the amps/drives?
[18:22:32] <nemo_> hello all
[18:22:37] <sabrexx> hello
[18:22:46] <witnit> its okay guys, I found him
[18:23:12] <nemo_> anyone up to answer few lame questions about linuxcnc?
[18:23:22] <witnit> ooh I will, pick me pick me
[18:23:26] <nemo_> :)
[18:23:40] <JT-Shopp> just ask
[18:23:44] <nemo_> thing is, i'm not sure if i got it right from the docs
[18:24:12] <nemo_> linuxcnc should work just right on any linux with RT extensions enabled, right?
[18:24:15] <JT-Shopp> just ask the question
[18:24:24] <JT-Shopp> not really
[18:24:32] <JT-Shopp> what are you trying to do?
[18:24:33] <nemo_> that's what i was affraid of
[18:24:49] <nemo_> i don't think ubuntu does it for me
[18:25:05] <JT-Shop> what do you want to do?
[18:25:07] <nemo_> i could settle for debian but it's still not my favourite by far
[18:25:23] <JT-Shop> please just say what you want
[18:25:23] <nemo_> i was wondering if anyone succeded in making a cnc box on slack
[18:25:36] <nemo_> is it doable at all
[18:25:40] <witnit> ^ bam best way to get to the point
[18:25:52] <JT-Shop> what is slack based on?
[18:26:38] <nemo_> it couldn't really hurt to try, worst case i'll fail :)
[18:27:25] <JT-Shop> if you can install the RTAI or PREEMPT-RT kernel you can most likely run LinuxCNC
[18:28:04] <JT-Shop> I build all flavors of LinuxCNC on LinuxMint Mate
[18:28:39] <witnit> nemo_: its likely you can do it, but you will be one of very few who have. As the community is already fairly small and many of us come from the industrial and mechanical ends of things not many venture into other flavors.
[18:29:21] <witnit> If you have issues with later releases you will not have much support
[18:29:28] <JT-Shop> I only use LinuxMint because it is based on Ubuntu and less painful to use than Debian
[18:29:39] <witnit> arent those all debian?
[18:30:00] <JT-Shop> beats me
[18:30:18] <JT-Shop> ubuntu is less nazi about permissions and sharing
[18:31:13] <witnit> yeah I think ubuntu and mint are both spinoffs of debian, yet they have their own individual ways of handling the user interface and so forth
[18:35:26] <JT-Shop> man you see some crazy questions here and some beating the bushes
[18:36:37] <witnit> pcw_home: PCW: oops, this is the link, so yeah can your amps drive these? http://tinyurl.com/z57nn9e
[18:37:15] <witnit> these really strange actuators have the motor inside of them and not much data about the motors mfg
[18:38:49] <PCW> there also 12 different motors there
[18:42:45] <witnit> yeahh PCW I dont know which ones he will be choosing but I thought maybe you would be able to tell right off which ones I can tell him to pick from
[18:43:17] <witnit> he is dead set on the actuators from this company but doesnt want to pay the price of the drives for them
[18:54:46] <enleth> anyone here did any carbon composite milling?
[19:49:38] <Duc> would it be better to use sensorless vector sensing or have the LNC control the spindle speed during load
[20:10:56] <jdh> yes.
[21:11:41] <yasnak> sooo
[21:12:15] <yasnak> Hydrogen fluoride...with stabilizers. Should I be worried if I may have handled this without any PPE?
[21:12:50] <gregcnc> umm yes i think so
[21:13:18] <yasnak> I mean just barely. Looking at google the PPM amounts are so low they freak me out
[21:13:41] <gregcnc> yes its sounds like nasty stuff
[21:13:52] <cradek> did you get HF on your skin?
[21:13:56] <gregcnc> I read up on it a bit some time ago
[21:14:47] <gregcnc> just seeing hydrogen flouride in letter gives me the chills
[21:14:49] <yasnak> Its like a white thicker paste...for industrial glass etching. Some guy didn't label/store correctly and I grabbed it to see what it is for proper OSHA labeling
[21:15:33] <malcom2073> You should probably be calling the hospital or poison control center rather than talking on irc :)
[21:15:37] <malcom2073> But hey, ain't my fingers haha
[21:15:39] <yasnak> hah
[21:15:59] <malcom2073> As long as it isn't one of those things that can travel and you can lose an arm from jsut a spot
[21:16:19] <cradek> I think HF is one of those things
[21:16:29] <gregcnc> that's the thing, if concentration is high enough it just spreads
[21:18:18] <yasnak> well probably because of you guys but the area i touched it doesn't hurt/burn but itches.
[21:18:20] <yasnak> so calling
[21:18:25] <yasnak> fuck im dumb
[21:18:33] <gregcnc> right it kills the nerves or something
[21:18:36] <malcom2073> Yeah when it *doesn't* hurt, you should worry.
[21:18:57] <yasnak> not helping
[21:19:02] <yasnak> thanks though, you are
[21:19:05] <malcom2073> You're still talking.
[21:19:12] <malcom2073> So we're gonna keep scaring you until you go call
[21:19:14] <malcom2073> :)
[21:19:19] <yasnak> on phone now
[21:19:29] <jdh> the call is free
[21:19:54] <malcom2073> HAha jdh, what was that from?
[21:21:03] <jdh> I don't remember, but it is familiar
[21:22:20] <malcom2073> "The call is free, the something is not"?
[21:23:34] <Valen> HF can give you big heartattacks with minimal exposure
[21:24:23] <Valen> a rocket guy spilt some in his lap (like half a cup), dove into the pool 8 seconds later, died of a heart attack a few days later
[21:24:31] <Valen> they couldn't keep calcium in his blood
[21:25:23] <Valen> sorry that was hydroflouric acid
[21:25:36] <Valen> which your stuff forms on contact with water (like your skin)
[21:38:10] <yasnak> well
[21:38:19] <yasnak> that was interesting
[21:38:26] <malcom2073> Heh yeah?
[21:38:28] <malcom2073> You're still alive though
[21:39:33] <yasnak> yeah, apparently it doesn't matter if it has "stabilizers" or not. washed hands right away and actually had some calcium carbonate for antifoam here
[21:39:44] <yasnak> apparently that shit basically turns HF non-toxic
[21:40:11] <malcom2073> Well that's convenient
[21:41:03] <yasnak> dude, reading about it online is like going to webmd for a headache. but better safe then sorry i guess.
[21:41:56] <malcom2073> Yeah, always call, don't trust the internet
[21:42:13] <witnit> yasnak: http://tinyurl.com/hv7l73d
[21:42:15] <enleth> at least you will live to report an OSHA incident suffered while ensuring OSHA compliance
[21:42:44] <andypugh> yasnak: HF burn? Nasty stuff.
[21:43:01] <andypugh> Could be worse, could be mercuric chloride.
[21:43:01] <yasnak> haha
[21:43:15] <enleth> that might actually be a pretty solid ground for a lawsuit if you're into that kind of thing, you were actually in danger there
[21:43:26] <yasnak> poison control keeps it confidential. they didn't ask any real questions
[21:43:47] <yasnak> just zip code for disposal, my name, first only.
[21:44:36] <witnit> how long ago did you make contact with it?
[21:44:55] <yasnak> over 45 mins
[21:45:24] <yasnak> I'm going to live...I think. haha. the internet makes you weird out a bit
[22:01:30] <witnit> level 4 toxicity is something you should not take lightly
[22:06:02] <eeriegeek> The journey of a thousand miles: http://imgur.com/1hs0awn
[22:12:41] <yasnak> http://ets.fulton.asu.edu/files/shared/Treatment_of_HF_Exposure.pdf
[22:14:13] <yasnak> thanks for that
[22:50:39] <jdh> are you still alive?
[22:51:36] <jdh> uh oh
[22:55:33] <witnit> yasnak: glad you read it, I was worried you missed it
[23:20:53] <yasnak> yes
[23:20:55] <yasnak> haha