#linuxcnc | Logs for 2016-03-20

[00:53:51] <trentster> Hi all, wondering if someone can help me with the command to reset machine absolute home position for a single axis after "home all" has been previously run?
[00:53:51] <trentster> e.g. I have proximity sensors on X and Y but not on Z, when I click home all, Z gets set to "0" at the current position it is. Later when I run an auto tool height probe I get an error that it will exceed the limits. I need to reset Z so that the probe succeeds.
[00:54:44] <XXCoder> trentster: maybe make sure it goes to current Z0 before setting uit
[00:55:27] <XXCoder> though do you use g53 machine coord and use g54 or whatever for part coord?
[00:55:31] <trentster> XXCoder: that does not help me in the middle of a program run and I have done a tool change
[00:57:04] <XXCoder> ahh so it does not have defined tool lengths eh?
[00:57:15] <XXCoder> fun one, I will evenually need to figure that too.
[00:57:39] <XXCoder> I might evenually figure how to use touchoff plate
[00:58:29] <trentster> https://monosnap.com/file/i8hxOG5A2SNL9VokEpTLr3Q2jWPw1D
[00:59:09] <trentster> I need to type in a command and reset that G54 Z = 0
[00:59:12] <XXCoder> so you want to set CURRENT position as zero for z?
[00:59:17] <trentster> so that I can run my probe routine
[00:59:58] <XXCoder> so g0 g90 g54 z0. would not wortk>?
[01:01:03] <trentster> XXCoder: maybe I will run out and give it a try. ashamedly I have not messed with gcode manually yet - so hence why I am asking here ;-)
[01:01:41] <trentster> here is the probe routine: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e36edb3ed1fd348fb369
[01:01:57] <XXCoder> if youre not certain it will safely do so, replace g0 with g1 and add f1. which is quite slow
[01:02:02] <XXCoder> so you have enough time to stop it
[01:02:59] <XXCoder> that is something I dont really know, L and P is unknown terms to me
[01:03:38] <trentster> XXCoder: like so: g1 g90 g54 z0 f1
[01:04:01] <XXCoder> that will simply move z to current definition of part Z zero
[01:04:08] <XXCoder> which might not be what you want.
[01:04:31] <XXCoder> if you want it to go to top of machine Z, g53 if linuxcnc supports it, replace g54.
[01:04:51] <trentster> XXCoder: I dont want it to move anywhere
[01:05:17] <XXCoder> hmm yea AI dont know linuxcnc method to set Z home by gcode
[01:05:25] <trentster> I just want it to set g54 Z = 0 so that I can run my probe and not get an error that probe will exceed the limits of the z axis
[01:05:31] <XXCoder> in fact I dont know if ANY method of that
[01:05:47] <XXCoder> *of
[01:06:18] <XXCoder> my guess its best to just move up to machine top (g0 g53 g90 z0.)
[01:06:29] <trentster> ok thanks anyways for trying to assist
[01:06:39] <XXCoder> it will take longer but dont need to set Z home
[01:06:46] <trentster> I have asked in the devel channel as well, perhaps on of the devs can help
[01:06:57] <XXCoder> yeah they have higher chance to know
[01:07:27] <trentster> I am in the middle of a job, just did a tool change and need to get Z zero from table surface
[01:07:29] <XXCoder> is this code supposed to set Z = 0 defintion? G10 L20 P0 Z0
[01:07:43] <trentster> I can just use a piece of paper for now I guess altho its not really accurate
[01:07:53] <trentster> hence the reason I have a probe :P
[01:08:11] <XXCoder> its less accurate when you change methods. I sometimes use shim since THAT is known thickness
[01:08:30] <XXCoder> so touch down till shim cant move then subtract shim thickness
[01:09:16] <trentster> yup, its essentially the same as the paper method - lol - just a bit more accurate
[01:09:25] <XXCoder> yeah error around .0001
[01:09:30] <trentster> probe is better and faster, and repeatable
[01:09:35] <XXCoder> depends how much it indents shim
[01:09:51] <XXCoder> plus shim error tolence
[01:10:07] <XXCoder> I'd love to have touch off probe.
[01:28:56] <pink_vampire> XXCoder you can make one
[01:35:50] <pink_vampire> https://i.chzbgr.com/full/5176729600/hDC6BA0A2/
[01:44:42] <XXCoder> a sec
[01:44:51] <XXCoder> lol
[01:53:29] <pink_vampire> I have small T slot cutter (dremel style)
[01:53:55] <pink_vampire> and large thick 1.5" aluminum
[01:54:52] <pink_vampire> I can make banana holder like that
[01:59:03] <XXCoder> just go online order a BIG nut
[01:59:11] <XXCoder> so its now a nutty banana heh
[02:01:36] <SpeedEvil> Or make bananna armour.
[02:01:48] <XXCoder> forma banana republic
[02:02:11] <SpeedEvil> ~ten or so 10 degree sections with swivels on them to allow them to rotate independantly so you can set the curve right
[02:06:15] <pink_vampire> I have 9"X10" X2" block of styrofoam
[02:06:47] <SpeedEvil> EPP foam is awesome
[02:07:11] <XXCoder> SpeedEvil: whats name of that test cut material usually used to test cut programs?
[02:07:21] <XXCoder> almost like solid foam
[02:07:28] <XXCoder> usually green
[02:07:41] <SpeedEvil> Lime jello.
[02:07:58] <SpeedEvil> I dunno - I guess you mean the rigid frangible foam stuff used by florists
[02:08:13] <XXCoder> lol that would just need heater connected to chuck, it dont spin but rather just move around and melt jello
[02:08:14] <SpeedEvil> http://www.cc-craft.co.uk/oasis-floral-foam-size-23x11x8-cm-green-1-pc?gclid=CKuQ-sjUzssCFbgy0wod2ZkG8g
[02:08:33] <XXCoder> that would work yeah quite frigle though
[02:08:55] <pink_vampire> flower foam?
[02:09:14] <XXCoder> pink its too breakable for your project but nice for testing program and machine
[02:09:22] <pink_vampire> you can get it in some dollar store.
[02:09:30] <XXCoder> yeah I prbably will
[02:09:57] <pink_vampire> I just save the large packing material
[02:10:20] <XXCoder> just dont forget to set anti-static ionizers and humidifier heh
[02:10:25] <XXCoder> or you will get cling hell
[02:11:01] <pink_vampire> I know how to clean..
[02:11:09] <XXCoder> cleaning is not the point
[02:11:13] <SpeedEvil> pink_vampire: no you don't :)
[02:11:15] <XXCoder> its keeping chips off the machine
[02:11:24] <SpeedEvil> Mist coolant works well.
[02:11:36] <SpeedEvil> Not, obviously to cool.
[02:11:43] <SpeedEvil> But to make the bits anti-static
[02:11:50] <XXCoder> wah that would work too
[02:11:55] <XXCoder> watsr discharges static
[02:12:05] <XXCoder> *yeah
[02:12:08] <XXCoder> *water
[02:12:42] <pink_vampire> I want to make a tray with 2 studs for the vise and 2 holes for screws on the outside.
[02:12:43] <SpeedEvil> It'd be nice if ice diddn't have issues
[02:12:58] <XXCoder> you cutting ice?
[02:13:04] <SpeedEvil> I mean as trials.
[02:13:10] <pink_vampire> so I can put my vise inside and work with coolant.
[02:13:12] <XXCoder> I sqaw awesome ice cutting videos
[02:13:25] <XXCoder> they was using FOOT long 1 inch em and plunge it in fully
[02:13:50] <SpeedEvil> :)
[02:14:25] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32EmwwKUdZQ
[02:14:31] <XXCoder> not as good as one I saw
[02:14:55] <XXCoder> I bet ya that room its in is very cold
[02:15:09] <SpeedEvil> Seen the appliedscience rubber machining?
[02:15:20] <XXCoder> dont think so?
[02:15:31] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yvcizt83DA
[02:15:37] <SpeedEvil> Using ~-100C alcohol as coolant
[02:15:43] <XXCoder> SpeedEvil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oIJf_4BGoA
[02:17:25] <XXCoder> ummm
[02:17:28] <XXCoder> there is red ice
[02:18:23] <pink_vampire> dry ice will be much cool..
[02:18:39] <XXCoder> its so cold it probably will break tool
[02:18:48] <XXCoder> unless you employ the inverse - tool heaters
[02:19:13] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1prGvVn42ro
[02:19:44] <pink_vampire> wood glue can work on styrofoam?
[02:19:44] <XXCoder> lol
[02:20:08] <XXCoder> heh that materials so weak you probably can just use double tape
[02:21:40] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2qApXHN4y8
[02:22:58] <XXCoder> heh
[02:23:03] <XXCoder> set 3 of em off in room
[02:25:16] <XXCoder> one poster says "lock the door"
[02:25:25] <XXCoder> uhh did he or she not see guy break door? :P
[02:26:22] <pink_vampire> I think laser 2KW will do better job, and smoke the same time.
[02:28:35] <XXCoder> yeah vaporize thief and hide the evidence
[02:29:27] <XXCoder> or fake products displayed
[02:29:40] <XXCoder> I remember one store, some guy broke in and stole over 40 phones
[02:29:57] <XXCoder> it was all display models with nothing but case and no electrics in it
[02:36:15] <trentster> does anyone know what this gocode does? : G10 L20 P0 Z0
[02:37:13] <XXCoder> . G10 L20 Set Coordinate System
[02:37:21] <XXCoder> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/gcode/gcode.html#sec:G10-L20
[02:38:08] <XXCoder> I wonder what P0 means - g54 or whatever
[02:38:36] <trentster> yeah, I am pretty sure thats the line in my probe routine that is triggering the limit warning
[02:39:38] <XXCoder> odd
[02:39:41] <XXCoder> try p1
[02:39:48] <XXCoder> p0 might be machine coord
[02:52:37] <evil_ren> guis hey
[02:53:07] <evil_ren> haas got 6 place, in the points, first formula 1 gp
[02:54:44] <evil_ren> grosjean got 6th. alonso (mclaren) crashed into guitierez, the other haas, everyone okay shakin hands
[02:55:49] <evil_ren> http://i.imgur.com/Y2Fo7EH.jpg
[02:56:28] <evil_ren> kinda neat, they put the center wing upright through the exhaust
[03:15:02] <pink_vampire> hope the wood glue will work..
[03:16:07] <XXCoder> yeah
[03:16:49] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/DevQZKB.png
[03:17:10] <pink_vampire> I lower the Z axis on it as a press.
[03:18:19] <XXCoder> cool
[03:18:59] <pink_vampire> how much time it will take until is dry?
[03:19:10] <XXCoder> hmm dont remember?
[03:20:56] <pink_vampire> I'm not a wood worker..
[03:21:58] <XXCoder> 30 min to hour google says
[03:22:15] <XXCoder> "stressed" 24 hours, but then yours isnt
[03:23:32] <pink_vampire> i need xray / mri
[03:24:22] <pink_vampire> just to measure how much water left in the glue.
[03:25:10] <archivist> a day for proper dry
[03:26:11] <XXCoder> yeah
[03:26:17] <XXCoder> full cure
[03:26:21] <pink_vampire> I have to clean the mess here (just from cutting it :(
[03:26:48] <pink_vampire> ok do I will try the machining tomorrow
[03:27:12] <pink_vampire> everything is soooo messy here.
[03:27:44] <XXCoder> try set vacuum near cut area
[03:27:53] <XXCoder> it will lessen it a little
[03:29:08] <pink_vampire> even my table O_O
[03:29:11] <pink_vampire> OMG
[03:42:59] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1jbxswJhGY
[03:53:09] <Deejay> moin
[03:53:13] <XXCoder> hey
[03:53:19] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Mwk6rbzYs
[03:54:28] <pink_vampire> hi Deejay
[03:54:38] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: I know this video
[03:54:49] <Deejay> nice machine
[03:54:50] <pink_vampire> the bar feeder is nice.
[03:54:56] <Deejay> hi XXCoder, hi pink
[03:55:22] <pink_vampire> Deejay: did you see on what I'm working?
[03:55:32] <pink_vampire> Deejay: http://i.imgur.com/DevQZKB.png
[03:56:14] <Deejay> styrofoam-sandwich? ;)
[03:56:41] <XXCoder> its pre-pair of breasts heh
[03:57:15] <Deejay> what is that, pink_vampire?
[03:58:06] <pink_vampire> you don't want to know.
[03:58:18] <Deejay> tell me :)
[03:58:42] <pink_vampire> Deejay: XXCoder didn't joke.
[03:58:49] <XXCoder> yeah
[03:58:52] <Deejay> huh
[03:58:58] <Deejay> wtf ;)
[03:59:02] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/yrjddyh.png
[03:59:24] <pink_vampire> Deejay: ^
[03:59:24] <Deejay> lol
[03:59:52] <pink_vampire> it's for a costume for someone
[04:00:15] <Deejay> ooooookay
[04:00:26] <XXCoder> Deejay: its been glued to wood for cutting
[04:00:33] <XXCoder> then it can be cut off when done
[04:00:44] <Deejay> ah
[04:01:58] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: I can't glue it to the wood, I need to flip it.
[04:02:18] <pink_vampire> the wood is just help to press it even.
[04:02:20] <XXCoder> oh thought press was to glue blocks to wood
[04:02:24] <XXCoder> I see
[04:03:18] <Deejay> and then you will 3d-mill the foam?
[04:03:27] <pink_vampire> yes.
[04:03:48] <pink_vampire> the bottom first, then flip. do the top.
[04:04:03] <Deejay> interesting
[04:05:48] <Deejay> hope to see more photos of the work ;)
[04:07:29] <pink_vampire> with the latex cover..
[04:07:54] <Deejay> :)
[04:08:36] <pink_vampire> I never did something like that..
[04:09:05] <pink_vampire> I have a bad feeling about that..
[04:11:03] <Deejay> hehe
[04:12:14] <pink_vampire> it's also my first 3d machining!
[04:13:34] <Deejay> :)
[04:14:51] <maxcnc> good morning from Germany
[04:15:08] <maxcnc> haas did a cool job in australia F1
[04:15:18] <Deejay> hi max
[04:15:56] <pink_vampire> maxcnc: what king of a job?
[04:16:14] <maxcnc> they made it in the top 10
[04:16:49] <maxcnc> pink_vampire: cool stoff you are going to mill
[04:17:33] <pink_vampire> i can share the file withe you if you want..
[04:17:33] <maxcnc> why are there so many retracts
[04:17:33] <maxcnc> keep tool down option
[04:17:49] <maxcnc> the part
[04:18:00] <maxcnc> as step or stl
[04:18:39] <pink_vampire> i know.. i need to fix the code.. it was just a test to see if it fit.. i didn't set all the settings.
[04:18:49] <maxcnc> ok
[04:19:09] <maxcnc> juast want to say good that you know where to go
[04:19:43] <maxcnc> is it hard foam like 120
[04:20:05] <maxcnc> r standard WDVS
[04:20:16] <pink_vampire> it's simple styrofoam
[04:20:31] <maxcnc> ordanary homedepo foam
[04:20:53] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/DevQZKB.png
[04:20:56] <maxcnc> better to go for a hard one
[04:21:25] <pink_vampire> i know it's not ideal..
[04:21:28] <maxcnc> you can clue it togeter like the ordanary one
[04:21:44] <pink_vampire> but i want to get the idea..
[04:21:54] <pink_vampire> it's just a test..
[04:22:14] <maxcnc> and use Has rouphing tools
[04:22:19] <maxcnc> HSS
[04:22:42] <maxcnc> not standard bits
[04:23:04] <pink_vampire> i'm goit to use 3/4" 4F hss end mill.
[04:23:06] <maxcnc> it makes a mutch more better surface
[04:23:24] <maxcnc> on standard
[04:23:24] <pink_vampire> i dont have rouphing tools
[04:23:27] <maxcnc> cut speed above 3000mm/min
[04:23:42] <pink_vampire> rpm?
[04:23:55] <pink_vampire> 1000 is the max
[04:23:56] <maxcnc> i use 15000
[04:24:41] <maxcnc> so 400mm/min
[04:24:43] <pink_vampire> I did some test with small slitting saw on the same material.
[04:24:54] <pink_vampire> it was nice.
[04:24:59] <maxcnc> cool
[04:25:00] <pink_vampire> let me take a pc
[04:25:02] <pink_vampire> pic*
[04:35:27] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/WMCFbD9.png
[04:35:50] <pink_vampire> this is a test cut with 3/4" end mill on it.
[04:36:09] <pink_vampire> I'm happy with the cutting finish.
[04:38:53] <XXCoder> looks very smooth yeah
[04:43:03] <pink_vampire> I want to cut it!!!!
[04:44:27] <pink_vampire> also I need to make more insert (9 more at least)
[04:44:38] <pink_vampire> now it make one in about 20 min..
[04:44:56] <pink_vampire> and i have 7 to drill and tap!
[04:45:31] <pink_vampire> and the beauty here that everything done with the probe!!
[04:45:59] <pink_vampire> 10 seconds to position and center on the part.
[05:03:02] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: ?
[05:03:13] <XXCoder> yeah?
[05:05:56] <pink_vampire> I need a muse.
[05:07:00] <XXCoder> muse is tradually a lady :)
[05:08:45] <pink_vampire> do you know about a girl that like girls that like cnc stuff that it's not me?
[05:10:27] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: ^
[05:11:26] <XXCoder> nope
[05:11:45] <XXCoder> well closest thing is furrywolf lol but then shes strange one
[05:12:20] <pink_vampire> furrywolf??
[05:12:35] <archivist> furry is a he
[05:12:45] <XXCoder> shes a she but then she dont really identify to specific gender
[05:13:37] <pink_vampire> o-k...
[05:14:27] <XXCoder> archivist: I recall her saying she is physical female
[05:14:51] <XXCoder> honestly I dont really care, I dont plan to date furrywolf lol
[05:15:25] <pink_vampire> LOL
[05:16:24] <pink_vampire> she also like metal working?
[05:16:56] <XXCoder> pretty sure yes
[05:17:15] <XXCoder> furrywolf is also... a furry. that group is very strange
[05:17:55] <pink_vampire> what kind a machine she use?
[05:19:29] <Deejay> lol
[05:19:44] <pink_vampire> about?
[05:19:59] <Deejay> just reading backlog
[05:20:17] <pink_vampire> ok..
[05:21:25] <XXCoder> thining about dating furrywolf eh heh
[05:21:41] <pink_vampire> i need to make a bump on my shift key
[05:22:16] <Deejay> had to translate "furry" to german ;)
[05:23:05] <XXCoder> Deejay: just google furry you'll get idea very quickly
[05:24:25] <pink_vampire> shift is the worse key in the keyboard!
[05:24:56] <Deejay> take a screwdriver and remove it ;)
[05:25:12] <XXCoder> lol
[05:25:16] <pink_vampire> it will be even worse
[05:25:27] <pink_vampire> I need to make a bump on it.
[05:25:36] <XXCoder> SO thIs Bad eH
[05:25:55] <pink_vampire> now if i want to press the shift i press the caps lock
[05:26:08] <pink_vampire> or none of them.
[05:26:11] <Deejay> use shift on the right side
[05:26:28] <Deejay> caps lock is worst key ever
[05:26:31] <Deejay> shift is okay ;)
[05:26:32] <pink_vampire> so I will hit the "enter"
[05:26:35] <Deejay> hehe
[05:27:06] <Deejay> so you want a shift key somewhere with no other keys next to it? ;)
[05:28:30] <pink_vampire> I will make a cube of plastic / wood on the cnc
[05:28:42] <pink_vampire> and hot glue it to the shift.
[05:28:47] <Deejay> hrhr
[05:28:50] <Deejay> okay...
[05:30:16] <pink_vampire> what else can I do?
[05:31:29] <SpeedEvil> Wait
[05:31:33] <SpeedEvil> why do you want a bump?
[05:32:10] <pink_vampire> to be able to press just the shift key
[05:34:33] * SpeedEvil is lost.
[05:34:58] <pink_vampire> long nails problems
[05:35:49] <SpeedEvil> ah.
[05:36:10] <SpeedEvil> I guess the easy solution would be a terraced keyboard
[05:36:31] <SpeedEvil> with each higher row perhaps 5mm lower.
[05:36:39] <pink_vampire> the plastic capslock key is too hard, so if the nail hit it all the time it can split the edge of the nails.
[05:40:36] <pink_vampire> I solved the problem!!
[05:41:09] <Deejay> how?
[05:42:18] <SpeedEvil> cut your nails?
[05:42:23] <pink_vampire> styrofoam + double sided tape
[05:43:09] <pink_vampire> but now I can't use the ctrl button.
[05:43:20] <pink_vampire> also the win key.
[05:44:17] <pink_vampire> alt + tab, almost impassable to do
[05:44:38] <pink_vampire> any ideas?
[05:45:31] <pink_vampire> I reduce the height of the bump..
[05:45:45] <pink_vampire> It better now.
[05:46:34] <pink_vampire> SpeedEvil: what do you think?
[05:47:10] <SpeedEvil> I vaguely remember someone made gloves for this purpose.
[05:47:21] <SpeedEvil> They have a little bump on the underside of the fingers
[05:47:59] <pink_vampire> that is really good idea
[05:48:34] <pink_vampire> http://geniusbeauty.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Qwerty-Quirky.jpg
[05:49:10] <SpeedEvil> I guess rubber feet
[05:49:29] <SpeedEvil> Never understood long nails.
[05:51:36] <pink_vampire> me either, so weird to put something so fragile and long on the tip of the fingers.
[05:51:54] <XXCoder> it used to serve as status symbol. ladies who do not work
[05:51:57] <pink_vampire> but I love them they sooo cute...
[05:52:02] <XXCoder> proof: nails that would be broken if worked
[05:52:16] <XXCoder> pale skin color for white ladies was same
[05:52:24] <XXCoder> "look I'm never been outside working!"
[05:52:37] <SpeedEvil> I never saw the attraction myself.
[05:53:03] <Deejay> lol
[05:53:11] <SpeedEvil> I mean - I can see that they are pretty - but the functional problems outweigh that
[05:53:14] <pink_vampire> ok.. I have 18mm long nails, white skin, and I like metal working.
[05:53:25] <SpeedEvil> If you like them - yay.
[05:54:39] <pink_vampire> and you know what is more funny.
[05:54:57] <pink_vampire> I want to re make a violin on my cnc.
[05:55:20] <pink_vampire> I play at the past on violin.
[05:55:47] <pink_vampire> now I can't even holding the bow. :( :)
[05:56:07] <SpeedEvil> you mean to figure the surface?
[05:56:19] <SpeedEvil> Traditional construction seems not well suited to CNC
[05:56:40] <pink_vampire> electric violin
[06:00:21] <pink_vampire> http://www.theitchlist.com/storiesofus/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/learn-guitar.jpg
[06:00:36] <pink_vampire> also true about violin.
[06:00:59] <pink_vampire> and I have soft strings.
[06:02:31] <Deejay> lol
[06:02:40] <Deejay> barb wire on the guitar :D
[06:17:55] <SpeedEvil> It was bad enough on DVD
[06:18:48] <pink_vampire> SpeedEvil: ?
[06:20:39] <SpeedEvil> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115624/
[06:21:25] <pink_vampire> ok...
[06:21:28] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AajldTaeZU0
[06:23:45] <pink_vampire> one of the weird videos
[06:24:19] <SpeedEvil> err - what?
[06:24:31] <SpeedEvil> I have probably been awake too long - but that makes zero sense
[06:26:56] <XXCoder> ugh pukeworthy video. so much camera on springs
[06:53:14] <pink_vampire> DONE!
[06:55:03] <pink_vampire> do you want to see the design?
[06:56:37] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/TgU8upQ.png
[06:56:47] <pink_vampire> I need to make 6 of them.
[06:57:06] <pink_vampire> I have sheet of aluminum for that.
[06:57:21] <pink_vampire> any idea how to cut it??
[06:57:43] <pink_vampire> XXCoder? SpeedEvil? Deejay?
[07:01:01] <Deejay> sorry, have to leave now, bbl
[07:01:52] <swarfer> pink_vampire: what machine do you have?
[07:02:06] <pink_vampire> G0704
[07:02:58] <pink_vampire> swarfer: ^
[07:03:49] <swarfer> ah, I would set the material so I can do a long pocket across the ends, then drill the 2 holes for each part.
[07:04:11] <swarfer> now turn it around and over and pocket, then slots
[07:04:52] <swarfer> hmm, wait, need to do the slots with the rebates first, then rotate, do the pocket and holes, then invert, do the long pocket.
[07:05:03] <swarfer> then split on the table saw (-:
[07:05:15] <pink_vampire> no!
[07:05:16] <swarfer> just because we have cnc does notmean we need to do everything with it.
[07:06:28] <swarfer> thing is your Y is short. you can do each part seeprately, facing the X direction. or maybe pairs.
[07:06:51] <pink_vampire> I have 150mm on Y
[07:07:17] <swarfer> so 6 of these are not going to fit next to each other on Y, right?
[07:07:19] <pink_vampire> the part is 20mm X 147mm
[07:08:06] <pink_vampire> now with the probe is soo easy to do the setup.
[07:08:08] <swarfer> what do you want to do? 1 at a time? 3 at a time?
[07:08:28] <swarfer> is that long relief on the back, with the slow, less than 150mm
[07:08:46] <swarfer> slow/slot
[07:09:00] <SpeedEvil> pink_vampire: I suppose you can't simply make it in two parts, and then scre together?
[07:09:31] <pink_vampire> I think I will make them one by one to fit it better on the sheet.
[07:10:22] <pink_vampire> the drop of the glue is fully cured!
[07:10:40] <pink_vampire> time to remove it from the Z axis press :)
[07:11:42] <swarfer> 2 at a time? slot on the left, 2 holes and rebate on the right, then invert to the rebate on the left, and cut around the edges.
[07:14:37] <pink_vampire> swarfer: sounds like a plan.
[07:14:58] <swarfer> tnks (-:
[07:15:43] <pink_vampire> I'm go for sec to square the foam block.. fly cutter??
[07:15:48] <pink_vampire> NP
[07:15:53] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: looks simple, cut the short cut side first
[07:16:14] <XXCoder> make hole and slot on that step too
[07:16:28] <XXCoder> then flip it over and cut the long step
[07:16:30] <swarfer> sharp tool for cutting foam, scary sharp, otherwise it will just tear out in chunks
[07:17:01] <swarfer> that is what I was thinking XXCoder, but you said it simpler
[07:17:18] <pink_vampire> ok..
[07:17:30] <pink_vampire> I'm going to make some CHIPS!
[07:17:44] <XXCoder> have fun. time for me to make Zs!
[07:17:47] <XXCoder> night all
[07:18:42] <swarfer> night
[07:20:47] <pink_vampire> good night XXCoder
[07:21:12] <pink_vampire> 3/4" end mill on the machine sweet!
[07:21:23] <pink_vampire> cut it like nothing
[07:22:57] <Loetmichel> my bigges mill bit is a 25mm slot bit for a wood router
[07:23:15] <Loetmichel> that i only use to level the sacrificial plate
[07:23:43] <Loetmichel> its the biggest one i got with 8mm shaft ;)
[07:24:43] <pink_vampire> 25 cutter on 8 shaft
[07:24:47] <pink_vampire> WOW
[07:27:35] <swarfer> quite normal for woodworking
[07:27:43] <swarfer> and spin it at 20000rpm too
[07:31:28] <SpeedEvil> yeah - with some woodworking, the real limit is the sound barrier.
[07:31:32] <SpeedEvil> (not quite, but...)
[07:32:35] <swarfer> yep
[07:36:47] <pink_vampire> done
[07:36:58] <SpeedEvil> yay
[07:37:11] <SpeedEvil> Now I want chips.
[07:37:15] <SpeedEvil> But I have no potatoes.
[07:38:10] <Loetmichel> swarfer: 24krpm
[07:40:02] <Loetmichel> pink_vampire: i did use an 80mm saw blade as a cutter in a 6mm shaft. at 24kRPM... i admit to have been standing behind the gantry sides while operating that. so if it had been flying awy i would have been somewhat protected...
[07:40:19] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=5474
[07:40:24] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=5471
[07:40:29] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=5468
[07:40:50] <Loetmichel> ... it holds on that shaft by a 0,3mm edge at the center ;)
[07:41:22] <Loetmichel> s/edge/countersunk edge)
[07:41:55] <pink_vampire> Loetmichel: I remember the picture of your finger drilled.
[07:42:13] <Loetmichel> that was a normal 3mm mill bit tho ;)
[07:44:16] <pink_vampire> it's vibrate like crazy?
[07:44:30] <pink_vampire> I saw the pics now,
[07:44:43] <SpeedEvil> Funky. I diddn't realise it was quite that fast - speeds I'm finding for carbide for softwood are up to 100m/s
[07:44:52] <SpeedEvil> I thought it was about 60
[07:46:08] <Loetmichel> pink_vampire: it dosent vibrate at all
[07:46:39] <Loetmichel> but at 24krpm: IF that blade detachts from the shaft you have a deadly weapon flying around...
[07:47:02] <Loetmichel> not that funny to get hit by a saw blade that spins at 24kRPM ;)
[07:50:25] <pink_vampire> OMG..
[07:50:51] <pink_vampire> it can break your nails..
[07:52:05] <Loetmichel> i think it can do more than that.
[07:52:19] <Loetmichel> i wager it can cause some pretty deep wounds in soft flesh
[07:52:37] <Loetmichel> until its impulse is used up
[07:52:41] <pink_vampire> better safe then sorry.. but we only live once..
[07:53:11] <Loetmichel> so i didnt took a chance and stayed behind the gantry side wall ;)
[07:53:34] <pink_vampire> it's leave a scar?
[07:54:26] <Loetmichel> no idea
[07:54:33] <Loetmichel> i think it would
[07:55:03] <Loetmichel> ... another one. its not like i dont have plenty already from my countless "mishaps" ;)
[07:59:28] <pink_vampire> this foam is huge for the machine!!
[07:59:42] <pink_vampire> I need DATRON!
[08:00:42] <Sync> then buy one
[08:01:17] <pink_vampire> wayyy to expensive for me
[08:03:01] <pink_vampire> my boyfriend loves me alot but he isn't rich enough to get me a datron
[08:05:34] <pink_vampire> I think we should go to couples counseling because of that
[08:05:41] <pink_vampire> I think we should go to couples counseling because of that
[08:05:55] <pink_vampire> Sync: ^
[08:37:23] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/WhHoT9p.png
[08:40:30] <la> http://linkshrink.net/7LsOm3
[08:45:11] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/J3Dilbh.png
[08:45:26] <pink_vampire> the stock is ready!
[09:56:40] <PetefromTn_> Mornin folks
[10:05:00] <Deejay> re
[10:33:12] <pink_vampire> morning PetefromTn_
[10:36:21] <Deejay> hi Pete
[10:40:40] <PetefromTn_> morning pinky and DEEHAJAY!!
[10:41:49] * tiwake pokes PetefromTn_
[10:44:24] <PetefromTn_> hey tiwake
[10:44:52] <tiwake> whats up?
[10:44:57] <tiwake> move all your junk yet?
[10:45:06] <PetefromTn_> well actually somewhat yes
[10:45:17] <PetefromTn_> we just got back LATE last night from a trip to Florida
[10:45:26] <Sync> ah, so it was you yesterday
[10:45:34] <Sync> the sebring 12h got rekt by the rain ;)
[10:46:24] <PetefromTn_> we drove down there following the shippers truck and helped him get the Cincinatti and the Standard Modern lathe unloaded off his trailer and loading it into our storage unit.
[10:47:13] <PetefromTn_> luckily I was able to hire a local company a block over to help with their forklift and we were able to EASILY move everything in.
[10:47:24] <PetefromTn_> very nice people and it saved me a TON of cash
[10:47:44] <tiwake> yeah, forklifts are amazing
[10:47:47] <tiwake> :3
[10:47:47] <PetefromTn_> we could have taken the machine off the trailer with cables and pullies like we loaded it with but this made it WAY easier
[10:47:54] <Sync> yeah
[10:48:00] <Sync> a forklift is the easiest
[10:48:21] <PetefromTn_> I tried to give them 300 bucks for the use of the machine and their trouble but they would only take 200...
[10:48:36] <PetefromTn_> so we bought their office and company a couple dozen donuts ;)
[10:48:44] <tiwake> heh
[10:49:17] <PetefromTn_> it went so well we were able to head to the beach and enjoy some delicious seafood lunch at Conchy Joes in Jensen beach
[10:49:32] <PetefromTn_> Then we hit the beach and went swimming for awhile
[10:49:52] <pink_vampire> very nice.
[10:49:54] <PetefromTn_> got to have dinner with one of my best friends from my childhood who lives down there
[10:50:24] <tiwake> go swimming in the sea here and you _have_ to wear a wet/dry suit
[10:50:39] <PetefromTn_> oh man that sucks...
[10:50:43] <PetefromTn_> the water was BEAUTIFUL
[10:50:58] <PetefromTn_> definitely don't need a wetsuit in Florida
[10:51:25] <tiwake> think of all the other stupid people saying the same thing
[10:52:42] <PetefromTn_> http://imgur.com/ieBdi2o :D
[10:52:56] <PetefromTn_> tiwake ??
[10:53:01] <tiwake> aaaah! its bald!
[10:53:21] <PetefromTn_> meh maybe a little mostly just a shaved head
[10:53:47] <tiwake> heh
[10:53:52] <tiwake> give it a couple more years
[10:54:05] <PetefromTn_> who needs hair anyways ;)
[10:54:41] <PetefromTn_> I have shaved my head ever since I was in the Coast Guard I can't stand having a lot of hair to deal with LOL
[10:55:16] <PetefromTn_> besides the photo was to show you how beautiful the Ocean in Florida is not to see my bald ass head :D
[10:56:04] <tiwake> heh
[10:56:57] <PetefromTn_> man I love it down there. It was like 78 degrees and sunny the whole time we were there. Got back here last night and it was 52!
[10:57:01] <tiwake> what I mean by everyone stupid moving to florida is mostly a jab at politics, not trying to imply you were stupid, just that there are a lot of idiots that move in the area for the same reason "oh look, everything is so pretty"
[10:58:09] <tiwake> also I don't like the ocean :P
[10:58:21] <PetefromTn_> well I mostly grew up down there so I am pretty well aware of what it is like. It really is beautiful and there is such a variety of neat places to visit. I cannot wait to go kayaking on the Crystal river.
[10:59:00] <Sync> yeah it looks nice
[10:59:02] <PetefromTn_> nothing better than the beach at night also. we drove out there both nights we were down there.
[10:59:07] <Sync> I'd move there for a few nights
[10:59:12] <Sync> err years
[10:59:31] <Sync> god, what is wrong with my fingers today
[10:59:36] <tiwake> I used to live a 2 hour drive from yellowstone national park... never went; too many idiots doing the same thing
[10:59:36] <PetefromTn_> they have an awesome ice cream shop now near the beach we visited. really good stuff.
[10:59:55] <PetefromTn_> I would like to visit yellowstone at some point.
[11:00:25] <PetefromTn_> we used to live near Yosemite when we lived in California and I never made it there either.
[11:00:40] <Sync> lots of coast to coast moving :P
[11:00:54] <PetefromTn_> we have lived in many places in my life LOL
[11:01:11] <PetefromTn_> I like getting to see a variety of this beautiful country
[11:01:27] <PetefromTn_> but moving always sucks
[11:02:31] <Sync> yeah I used to like it, but nowadays not so much
[11:02:40] <PetefromTn_> Personally I think I was born to live in Tee shirts, Shorts and Flip flops LOL
[11:02:49] <tiwake> ha
[11:03:00] <tiwake> such hippy statement
[11:03:17] <PetefromTn_> We have a lot of plans to kayak in some amazing places in Florida and the keys
[11:03:39] <tiwake> you can do the same thing in oregon
[11:03:46] <PetefromTn_> hey if that makes me a hippy then so be it... Personally I only care about enjoying my family and life
[11:04:01] <PetefromTn_> isn't it cold as hell in Oregon?
[11:04:12] <_methods> and rainy
[11:04:20] <tiwake> depends on the area really
[11:04:29] <tiwake> on the coast, yeah
[11:04:33] <MrSunshine> https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t34.0-12/12834800_10154013967483648_1041585495_n.jpg?oh=a2bec6ae0ffc5845d98fab5a85261898&oe=56F0C77E the new collumn for the X1 is taking shape =)
[11:04:34] <_methods> no one lives in the part that isn't rainy lol
[11:04:38] <PetefromTn_> yeah that does not sound like shorts and flops weather LOL
[11:05:01] <tiwake> _methods: I think I do
[11:05:07] <_methods> hahah
[11:05:10] <_methods> poor bastard
[11:05:21] <PetefromTn_> We had dinner on the first night in a new sushi/thai restaurant that was very nice.
[11:05:22] <_methods> you live around bend or something?
[11:05:45] <PetefromTn_> there is just SOOOO much more going on down there than here in maryville Tennessee I think.
[11:05:49] <tiwake> but if I do, say, bend oregon, then why even bother with it when there is a whole state thats like it with much better politics, such as texas :P
[11:05:59] <witnit> MrSunshine: what will that become?
[11:06:08] <MrSunshine> witnit: collumn support for my Seig X1 =)
[11:06:35] <MrSunshine> the cast iron plate its laying on will be the base to bolt it all to =)
[11:06:59] <witnit> is that bottom plate 1"
[11:07:04] <_methods> majority of my family lives in oregon
[11:07:05] <MrSunshine> more like 2"
[11:07:12] <_methods> i don't mind visiting every 5 years or so lol
[11:07:13] <MrSunshine> the bottom plate on the collumn is 1"
[11:07:18] <witnit> thats some serious amount of steel
[11:07:18] <MrSunshine> so is the front face
[11:07:26] <_methods> but that's about all i can take of it
[11:07:36] <tiwake> anyway, my three books on engine tuning came in the mail yesterday... I basically have one week to learn everything about car engine tuning and make an informed decision on the best way to tune several engines of similar build
[11:07:48] <MrSunshine> witnit: this base for the machine will outweight the machine like 3 times or something :P
[11:07:49] <witnit> I must ask though, do you think it might be overkill compared to your machine?
[11:07:58] <MrSunshine> witnit: pfft :P
[11:08:01] <witnit> hjajhajhahj
[11:08:03] <MrSunshine> there is nothing named overkill
[11:08:19] <MrSunshine> thinking of casting in the column later also
[11:08:45] <CaptHindsight> carburetor tuning is no big deal
[11:08:46] <witnit> I feel like you could replace the seig spindle with something much heavier also the slides :)
[11:08:49] <MrSunshine> witnit: can never have enough stiffness you know =)
[11:08:54] <witnit> now that you have such a good column
[11:09:02] <MrSunshine> witnit: yeah but right now i cant afford to do that .. all this steel was free =)
[11:09:06] <PetefromTn_> That looks like a pretty nice heavy duty solution for the column man.
[11:09:07] <witnit> nice
[11:09:07] <CaptHindsight> kids to day have it easy with their new fangled computers
[11:09:25] <Sync> http://sync-hv.de/Alpen/neuschnee.mp4 PetefromTn_ obviously shorts and sandals weather
[11:09:28] <MrSunshine> witnit: but its an alternative later as the base will be reusable hopefully =)
[11:09:46] <witnit> yes I do feel like it will last longer than your machine :P
[11:09:59] <MrSunshine> but thinking of how i will mount the collumn to it ... im thinking of welding flat steel bar on the support and bolt it from the sides
[11:11:10] <witnit> I was thinking maybe drilling and reaming multiple pins from the back and adding a few cap screws from inside the column support
[11:11:19] <witnit> drilling and reaming FOR pins
[11:11:40] <Sync> just fill it with dhw and pop a few screws in there
[11:11:57] <Sync> remember that screws only have a small circle of pressure under them
[11:12:00] <PetefromTn_> Sync what the hell is all the white stuff ;)
[11:12:07] <Sync> cocaine
[11:12:33] <witnit> MrSunshine: do you have a surface grinder?
[11:12:40] <PetefromTn_> oh hell you must be really wasted then hehe
[11:12:57] <MrSunshine> witnit: nop :/
[11:13:01] <Sync> http://sync-hv.de/Alpen/hmm.jpg that's how it looks without being in a cloud PetefromTn_
[11:13:21] <witnit> bummer, it would be very good to be able to create a flat surface for your mounting
[11:13:33] <Tom_itx> hey PetenotfromTn_
[11:13:58] <PetefromTn_> Sync nice man. Some beautiful mountains around here too just not as high ;)
[11:14:06] <PetefromTn_> Tom_itx Hey man
[11:14:08] <MrSunshine> witnit: yeah, think im just gonna mill it .. thats why i was thinking of two flat bars standing to bolt from the sides of the collumn, then i can set the column straight by them =)
[11:14:20] <MrSunshine> not sure how straight the actual collumn is
[11:14:27] <Tom_itx> no turnin back now
[11:15:22] <Sync> http://sync-hv.de/Alpen/pano5_beta.jpg MOAR cocaine PetefromTn_
[11:15:43] <PetefromTn_> looks COLD
[11:17:07] <Sync> nah
[11:17:16] <Sync> I was actually in shorts and tshirt there
[11:17:35] <Sync> sun is burning at 10kft
[11:17:43] <PetefromTn_> I believe that
[11:17:57] <PetefromTn_> when we lived in Sacramento we used to go skiing up in Lake tahoe
[11:18:10] <PetefromTn_> lots of people wore shorts and bikinis while skiing ;)
[11:19:43] <witnit> MrSunshine: are you ditching the red base and mounting the slabs direct to your new column?
[11:19:59] <MrSunshine> witnit: the base will be there as that has the X Y table
[11:20:09] <MrSunshine> but "free" from the collumn and bolted to the bottom plate
[11:42:06] <CaptHindsight> ever hear of "you can't make a silk purse from a sows ear"?
[11:42:37] <CaptHindsight> there might be a Ross Perot version
[11:43:22] <MrSunshine> but you can make a better purse by doing some work
[11:45:25] <CaptHindsight> you can't butter a squirrel and expect grapes of wrath
[11:46:11] <MrSunshine> i can make a machine stiffer and expect it to cut better than it did :P
[11:46:50] <CaptHindsight> If you see a snake, just kill it - don't appoint a committee on snakes.
[11:52:22] <Tom_itx> http://i.imgur.com/kr8gRdm.jpg
[11:52:26] <Tom_itx> remember the days?
[11:58:35] <tiwake> no.
[11:59:31] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/262330315038 the catch "The Millwright or Rigging company being used has to be bonded and insured. LOCAL PICK UP MEANS YOU ARE PAYING FOR LOADING COSTS!" from his garage
[12:36:13] <Jymmm> As in, whoever you have move it, if/when they bash in a wall they are insured
[12:36:48] <Jymmm> Did someone want aztec calendar artwork?
[12:37:08] <CaptHindsight> is it safe for work?
[12:37:43] <Jymmm> It's a calendar, so no.
[12:38:04] <CaptHindsight> on black velvet? (fingers crossed)
[12:38:37] <Jymmm> In EPS, so can be scaled to billboard size
[12:39:45] <CaptHindsight> ah files, I though you had original physical artwork
[12:40:00] <Jymmm> oh, sorry =)
[12:40:05] <CaptHindsight> ok
[12:40:48] <Jymmm> Yeah, it takes hours to recreate
[12:41:05] <Jymmm> ...due to detail
[12:42:49] <Jymmm> iirc the aztec calendar ended in 2012
[12:43:05] <Tom_itx> who's got the baddest cad station? http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/cad-station.jpg
[12:44:02] <Jymmm> more of a gamer's station,
[12:44:31] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: is that really your setup?
[12:44:45] <Tom_itx> not mine
[12:45:45] <Jymmm> reminds me more of a panoramic than CAD/gamer. I would have done 2x3 instead of 1x6
[12:46:49] <CaptHindsight> nice setup for longer and thin parts
[12:46:52] <jdh> just left south florida. saw a shitty chevy van with sevier county plates (petes county)
[12:47:41] <CaptHindsight> or longer than wide assemblies like ships
[12:47:58] <jdh> he's a 5ft tall hispanic woman
[12:48:07] <CaptHindsight> i knew it
[12:50:53] <PetefromTn_> Hey man my van is NOT shitty!!
[12:51:29] <PetefromTn_> Oh and it has Blount County plates :D
[12:51:37] <jdh> it was an express, not astro
[12:53:18] <jdh> I wss going to take y'all our to dinner but I didn't see you.
[12:53:21] <CaptHindsight> like this only classier https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O1SO1AA3rSk/TW7_8nilWPI/AAAAAAAAGlw/yMrcyRXd2sA/s1600/Unicorn_van_Art_Car_Central4.jpg ?
[12:53:42] <PetefromTn_> Hey that's a sweet van!
[12:54:02] <PetefromTn_> You wanna laugh, I LOVE my van but when we were down there at the beach
[12:54:26] <PetefromTn_> there was a guy who was surfing at Jensen beach on one of the more secluded beach entrances we went to
[12:54:28] <jdh> don't eat the brown acid
[12:54:41] <PetefromTn_> he had a lifted Ford diesel van
[12:54:54] <jdh> 4wd?
[12:54:56] <PetefromTn_> it was green and had like 35" tires on it and a HUGE rack for boards and kayaks
[12:55:01] <PetefromTn_> yeah it was 4x4
[12:55:10] <PetefromTn_> I fell in love with that truck man I swear
[12:55:23] <PetefromTn_> That is the PERFECT vehicle for me
[12:55:49] <PetefromTn_> I may just have to sell my AStro when we get down there and try to find one like it.
[12:57:33] <jdh> 4wd is all custom?
[12:57:45] <djdelorie> Tom_itx: my setup has a 4k monitor in the middle, two side monitors, plus a 1080p
[12:57:50] <PetefromTn_> no they have made 4x4 vans for years
[13:00:25] <PetefromTn_> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/14/9c/8a/149c8a6613e93bbff107d047d3c5782a.jpg It looked kinda like this only it had a heavy duty rack on top
[13:01:12] <jdh> with an A-Team logo?
[13:01:32] <PetefromTn_> or scooby doo mystery Machine regalia :D
[13:05:24] <jdh> stoner van
[13:05:43] <Jymmm> I thuought this was Pete's van https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DQ0QSUgbjLw/maxresdefault.jpg
[13:06:28] <PetefromTn_> I think it would be cool to have a diesel 4x4 van mine looks like this... http://chevrolet-parts.uneedapart.com/images/chevrolet-astro-van-parts.jpg
[13:06:53] <PetefromTn_> Oh and guess what
[13:07:29] <Flipp_> hey all. anyone know of any tips/guides/videos on how to machine compound spur gears?
[13:07:34] <PetefromTn_> I found that my wimpy 4.3 astro van is capable of dragging a 7k lb VMC up an inclinded ramp using cables and pullies without too much drama
[13:07:59] <PetefromTn_> that was interesting
[13:08:10] <Simonious> PetefromTn_: I've got 3 of those vans.. I love them
[13:08:11] <Flipp_> I've found a bunch of info on how to cut spur/helix/miter gears, but haven't found one that describes to cut compound gears
[13:08:17] <Tom_itx> Flipp_, archivist probably would but i doubt he's up
[13:08:18] <PetefromTn_> Simonious what vans?
[13:08:41] <Simonious> the astro vans..
[13:08:50] <PetefromTn_> Oh yeah nice
[13:09:07] <PetefromTn_> it sure was a comfy ride on the 15 hour trip home yesterday for me, my wife and the kids
[13:09:13] * Simonious nods
[13:09:19] <PetefromTn_> I got some decent mileage too
[13:09:25] <Simonious> good solid frame, more pulling power than 9/10 of the mini vans out there
[13:09:32] <Simonious> all wheel drive all the time
[13:09:44] <PetefromTn_> on the way down I hauled my Tig welder, my 7x12 bandsaw, my porta power, and whatever other small tools I could stuff in back
[13:09:50] <Simonious> :)
[13:09:58] <Simonious> yeah, they don't haul enough with the seats (family) along.
[13:09:59] <PetefromTn_> yeah unfortunately mine is NOT 4x4
[13:10:13] <PetefromTn_> that was WITH the seats in it :D
[13:10:23] <Simonious> aye, not a lot of hauling room
[13:10:29] <Simonious> would be nice if they were about 18 inches longer
[13:10:40] <PetefromTn_> they actually made an extended one for awhile
[13:10:48] * Simonious ponders
[13:11:01] <Simonious> I honestly though they dropped the short one
[13:11:05] <Simonious> and that most of them are the longer version
[13:11:10] <jdh> my yukon xl holds me, my bike, and dive gear
[13:11:28] <Jymmm> 4x4 Van... 10 gallons per mile?
[13:11:31] <Flipp_> Tom_itx: thanks, I'll ping him when he's around
[13:11:36] <PetefromTn_> yukons are pretty long too. But I seriously doubt it could hold more than my Astro
[13:11:38] <Simonious> heh.. well back to the router side of the room o/
[13:12:22] <PetefromTn_> Jymmm if it is diesel I would imagine it gets pretty damn good mileage
[13:12:59] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: Well, bette than gasoline at least, so 5 gallons per mile?
[13:13:27] <PetefromTn_> My astro got over 20 there and back with all that weight in it. She was dragging ass pretty good on the way down LOL
[13:13:48] <Sync> long T5?
[13:15:08] * Simonious grumbles
[13:15:15] <Simonious> pendant fail, rebooting the machine
[13:15:54] <PetefromTn_> Man I have like three days to pack up all of my Worldly Belongings and head out of here
[13:16:43] <archivist> Tom_itx, 6 pm over here
[13:17:15] <Tom_itx> ahh sry
[13:17:44] <archivist> Flipp_, define compound, do you mean two gears fixed to each other
[13:18:24] <Flipp_> archivist: yeah. like a gear that has two diameters, usually used in gear trains to reduce gear ratios
[13:18:32] <archivist> Flipp_, cut separately, mount together (press/interference)
[13:19:15] <archivist> plastic is easy moulded in one shot
[13:19:38] <archivist> else gear shaper is the main tool
[13:19:51] <Flipp_> archivist: yeah, that's kind of what I was imagining. is it common to use a keyway to make sure there is no backlash?
[13:20:02] <Flipp_> (I'm imagining steel or aluminum)
[13:20:26] <archivist> a true press fit has no backlash
[13:20:27] <Flipp_> or would press fit suffice for no slip?
[13:20:39] <archivist> or pin
[13:21:51] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: no giant garage sale and starting fresh?
[13:22:28] <archivist> this was interference plus a riveting from the rear http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2002/2002_09_18_Wheelcutting/P9190299.JPG
[13:23:38] <PetefromTn_> we actually gave away a ton of stuff and sold off some stuff
[13:23:49] <Flipp_> archivist: looks nice and flush
[13:24:03] <PetefromTn_> I sold my little mig welder, my kids offroad Gokart and some heaters I won't be needing anymore ;)
[13:24:05] <archivist> Flipp_, you can see 4 dimples http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2003/2003_10_09_Rugeley_power_station_chartrecorder_gears/P1010025crop.jpg
[13:24:21] <Simonious> facing run going..
[13:24:28] <Flipp_> ah, yeah, I see those
[13:25:18] <archivist> or space the gears for normal cutting
[13:25:41] <Flipp_> thanks. I wasn't sure press-fit would have enough friction to ensure no slipping, but looks like it's alright
[13:26:18] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: everyone been wondering what your new nick is going to be :)
[13:26:39] <archivist> Flipp_, shaping can work to a close fit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuWnDpQR3q0
[13:26:42] <CaptHindsight> you should start a raffle
[13:27:32] <PetefromTn_> hehe that's not a bad idea but I am honestly afraid of what Jymmm would come up with
[13:27:34] <archivist> petenofixedabode
[13:27:44] <CaptHindsight> lol
[13:27:49] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: for what?
[13:27:51] <Flipp_> archivist: ah, yeah, I had imagined broaching was one way to do it
[13:28:08] <PetefromTn_> for my new nic
[13:28:31] <PetefromTn_> somehow PetefromFLa just doesn't cut it
[13:29:58] <CaptHindsight> maybe Pete&Friends, put the cnc on the deck facing the ocean and post howto vids along with beer
[13:30:07] <Jymmm> PeteOnTheBeach or PeteFromThePenisState... your choice
[13:30:21] <PetefromTn_> ya see what I mean?
[13:30:31] <Jymmm> BeachBumPete
[13:30:32] <PetefromTn_> Pete@thebeach
[13:30:45] <PetefromTn_> Hey that's not bad..BeachBumPete
[13:31:04] <PetefromTn_> I will be spending a LOT of time on the beach I can tell ya that
[13:33:06] <Jymmm> There ya go, BeachBumPete it is!
[13:33:55] <PetefromTn_> Sweet problem solved what a relief :D
[13:43:04] <jdh> pete: got your sunpass?
[13:43:54] <PetefromTn_> no not yet wish I had LOL
[13:44:02] <maxcnc> hi ;-)
[13:44:02] <PetefromTn_> took me for 35 bucks in two days
[13:44:28] <jdh> just paid 13.70
[14:04:34] <maxcnc> Gn8
[14:12:13] <MrSunshine> http://jbcnc.se/images/datasheets/DFH-Linear-rail.jpg hmm .. on these .. where does the first hole start? =) anyone know ?
[14:12:25] <MrSunshine> (the rails)
[14:16:02] <MrSunshine> gonna make the hole pattern the same as the 25mm rails i think so i can upgrade later =)
[14:18:38] <ReadError> anyone worked with machineable ceramic?
[14:26:08] <jdh> pete: mini sunpass is $6 and gets 25% off tolls
[14:31:47] <bobo__> zlog
[14:54:56] <malcom2073> Wolf_: You need a new toy hauler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc9h4hzZLAg&feature=youtu.be
[14:56:36] <Wolf_> thats kinda cool, except for the being a trailer part lol
[14:57:04] <malcom2073> i like the side to side part heh
[14:57:26] <Wolf_> yeah side shifter is petty cool on that
[14:57:29] <malcom2073> I have nothing that could haul that sort of thing anyway
[14:57:33] <Jymmm> not sure what the slider is for though, loading?
[14:57:33] <malcom2073> Much less that + big machines on it
[14:57:38] <malcom2073> Unsure
[14:57:42] <Jymmm> If it seperated, sure I get it
[14:58:03] <Wolf_> dropping sheds next to buildings
[14:58:15] <Jymmm> ah
[14:58:19] <Wolf_> or pulling them out of tight spots
[14:58:33] <Jymmm> cargo containers?
[14:59:11] <Wolf_> that and pre-built sheds
[14:59:15] <Jymmm> oh shit, the droop down tires!
[14:59:32] <malcom2073> Jymmm: Yeah! Aren't those cool?
[14:59:57] <Jymmm> and the hitch extends too?! lol
[15:00:05] <malcom2073> Just full of nifty tricks
[15:00:14] <Jymmm> beer dispenser?
[15:00:23] <malcom2073> Buddy of mine owns it, it's going on ebay later today
[15:00:24] <Wolf_> with a bigger truck we just put hook frames on the 20’ sea containers
[15:00:34] <Jymmm> malcom2073: how much?
[15:00:39] <malcom2073> Jymmm: $14k I think he said
[15:00:54] <Jymmm> malcom2073: free shipping?
[15:00:58] <malcom2073> Jymmm: Hah
[15:01:41] <Jymmm> IT's cool as hell, why he getting rid of it?
[15:02:02] <malcom2073> Needs the money I guess? I dunno
[15:02:26] <alibama> all of my stepper motors have six wires - red, yellow, blue, green, black and white - i’m plugging them in to the mx3660 controller.. i’ve got green to a+, blue to a-, yellow to b+, red to b- and not sure what to do with white and black - do i just wire them in together in to a power link or are they not necessary
[15:02:35] <Wolf_> changed setups? that camo container looks like its on a rolloff skid
[15:02:49] <malcom2073> Wolf_: Maybe
[15:03:11] <Wolf_> alibama: look up 6 wire stepper wiring
[15:03:18] <alibama> Wolf_: thanks
[15:03:21] <alibama> will do
[15:05:14] <Jymmm> cradek: Would you rebuild a bus again?
[15:05:25] <Jymmm> cradek: or rv or the like
[15:05:50] <malcom2073> Jymmm: I found a giant tour bus for sale near me for $1500
[15:05:59] <malcom2073> Need CDL to drive it though heh
[15:06:34] <Wolf_> might want to check on that, if its not being used commercial the rules differ
[15:07:10] <malcom2073> I did, it's the weight + airbrakes that do it
[15:07:36] <Wolf_> they do have noncommercial class b
[15:07:53] <malcom2073> That might be what is needed
[15:07:57] <malcom2073> I know something else is though other than C
[15:07:58] <Wolf_> least I know MD did...
[15:08:08] <malcom2073> Same thing you need for the giant RVs
[15:08:16] <Wolf_> yeah
[15:15:47] <alibama> Wolf_: so it looks like with my gear there are two pins that are NC - so basically wiring this up like a 4 pin?
[15:16:05] <Wolf_> really I have no idea :D
[15:16:27] <Wolf_> should be on the motor spec sheet
[15:17:16] <pcw_home> Yeah you ignore the winding centertaps when 6 wire motors are used as 4 wire
[15:18:13] <pcw_home> (they need to be insulated so they don't accidentally contact anything)
[15:52:56] <PetefromTn_> jdh thanks for the tips man. We may be going down another way that will avoid the turnpike when we head down with the Uhaul as we are maybe going to look at an SUV for my wife near jacksonville. Other than going to Disney or Orlando for whatever reason we will probably not be using the turnpike too much really.
[15:57:35] <Duc> how did the equipment move go
[15:59:00] <jdh> I despise those tollbooth lines
[16:02:38] <Jymmm> malcom2073: air brakes do require CDL, but it's not a bad thing to have, you'll just need to have acess to an equiv vehicle for the road test.
[16:25:44] <alibama> pcw_home: thanks - i’m still here, just kinda hammering away :)
[16:36:00] <PetefromTn_> Duc sorry man we are here cleaning out the attic and garage
[16:36:19] <PetefromTn_> the machine move went really well. They are all safe and sound in a Storage unit down in Florida :D
[16:44:19] <alibama> i think my power supply is busted - anyone recommend a power supply for controlling 3 small steppers (2x 3v/phase & 2.4amp/phase + 1 4.5V 1.4 amp )
[16:44:57] <Duc> alibama: what drivers for the steppers
[16:45:19] <alibama> Duc: mx3660
[16:45:20] <Duc> PetefromTn: glad it was a easy move for the equipment. Always the most stessful time
[16:45:58] <alibama> Duc: that’s the controller i’m using - is that what you’re asking (very newb here)
[16:47:48] <Duc> yea
[16:47:58] <Duc> what is the max voltage that can be used
[16:48:10] <alibama> Duc: max is 60
[16:48:56] <alibama> would this work then? http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Performance-36V-DC-9-7A-350W-Regulated-Switching-Power-Supply-36-Volt-/181633106482
[16:52:08] <Duc> I would find something close to 60v
[16:52:57] <Duc> http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/torroidal-power-supplies
[16:53:13] <Duc> more pricey but the more power supplied to the drivers, the better they respond
[17:05:11] <alibama> sorry - just got on a decent internet connection - anyhow - what’s the difference between those power supplies (other than $150)
[17:10:56] <PetefromTn_> Duc I don't know about easy but it went well. Easy would be just pick up the phone and pay the man. However since I don't have that ability I had to do much of the work LOL
[17:12:04] <Duc> PetefromTn_: could have been so much worse LOL
[17:12:29] <Duc> alibama: more wattage and higher voltage to the stepper motors. Plus you can actually get US support
[17:14:28] <Duc> alibama: what are you using the stepper motors on?
[17:15:22] <alibama> Duc: on a small sherline 3 axis
[17:16:52] <Duc> what size steppers?
[17:17:31] <alibama> 2@ 3v/phase & 2.4amp/phase 1@ 4.5V 1.4 amp
[17:18:20] <Duc> nema size? Like 23, 32, 42 or Im not sure whats below that
[17:18:40] <djdelorie> 17
[17:18:52] <alibama> oh - 23 :)
[17:20:39] <alibama> i did mention i have no clue what i’m doing, right? ;)
[17:20:41] <Duc> I guess a sherline cant take to big of cuts so lower power may be fine
[17:22:09] <alibama> Duc: and there’s no rush, either…. i’m just doing these very small pieces in graphite…
[17:24:58] <Duc> what is the oz power of the drives
[17:27:31] <Duc> brb wife is calling
[17:27:44] <alibama> Duc: thanks man -
[17:27:58] <alibama> i gotta head out to… my better half need some help too :)
[17:38:36] <Deejay> gn8
[17:48:06] <Simonious> Got it cut the way I intended: https://goo.gl/photos/bVVN44V7wJFrMGLX7
[18:22:34] <FloppyDisk> alibama: best offer this guy: http://www.ebay.com/itm/281921510860 Higher voltage ='s good...
[18:23:10] <FloppyDisk> The 36vdc ps would probably work fine as well, but you can get higher speed out of higher voltage. 48vdc supplies are pretty common.
[21:39:05] * jthornton is back minus a Spyder
[21:40:18] <malcom2073> Sold it?
[21:42:37] <jthornton> it broke
[21:42:49] <jthornton> gotta go back tuesday and fetch it
[21:43:19] <jthornton> lost oil pressure and the oil tank was full of oil(dry sump motor)
[21:44:10] <jthornton> and it happened on the I310 bridge over the Mississippi with road construction so no curb to pull off to
[21:44:24] <jthornton> I was in a tight spot for sure
[21:46:00] <malcom2073> Whups heh
[21:47:29] <jthornton> thanks to the spyder riders of the bayou they rescued me and the misses
[21:50:53] <Tom_itx> hope nobody swipes it
[21:51:39] <Tom_itx> wonder if the pickup broke off
[21:53:09] <jthornton> one of the guys from the local club picked us and the Spyder up and we rented a car to drive home in and he too the Spyder back to a safe place till I return
[21:53:23] <Tom_itx> ahh good
[21:53:26] <OdinYggd> Lost the pump seals?
[21:53:34] <Tom_itx> i thought you were up a bit late here..
[21:53:45] <jthornton> I think either the oil filter collapsed or the tube collapsed
[21:53:56] <jthornton> yea, just got in and winding down
[21:54:05] <jthornton> with a glass of vino
[21:54:10] <Tom_itx> heh
[21:54:32] <zeeshan> john that sucks
[21:54:50] <Tom_itx> i bet zee knows a bit about that :)
[21:54:58] <zeeshan> lots of things
[21:54:59] <jthornton> I had to run the motor to get off the bridge longer than I should have...
[21:55:06] <zeeshan> pick up tube might have a hairline crack
[21:55:24] <zeeshan> since you didnt see an obvious oil spill
[21:55:58] <zeeshan> i spent all of today disassembling the subaru finally
[21:56:08] <zeeshan> engine is ready to be cherry picked out
[21:56:11] <jthornton> oil tank was full, I mean way full so I suspect the oil pump could not get oil and the scavenging pump was working fine
[21:56:21] <zeeshan> oh
[21:56:23] <zeeshan> its dry sump
[21:56:27] <jthornton> I bet that is a mess
[21:56:29] <jthornton> yes
[21:56:43] <jthornton> a Rotax 998
[21:57:20] <zeeshan> bright side
[21:57:22] <zeeshan> its a small motor :)
[21:57:24] <zeeshan> easy to repair!
[21:57:33] <jthornton> it's a 1200 mile round trip Tuesday
[21:57:41] <Tom_itx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjOk3lXBjQw
[21:57:41] <zeeshan> jeez
[21:58:13] <jthornton> yea, like a double coffee to go with my coffee
[21:59:08] <jthornton> that be the beast
[21:59:55] <jthornton> might need that to put it back together lol
[21:59:56] <Tom_itx> sure hope it didn't damage the engine
[22:00:25] <jthornton> yea, I really didn't have a choice but to get off the bridge
[22:00:53] <XXCoder> interesting
[22:01:00] <jthornton> didn't sound too bad but didn't sound good either
[22:01:27] <Tom_itx> do you have to split the case to get to the sump?
[22:01:34] <Tom_itx> or does it have a pan
[22:01:56] <jthornton> I don't know, I have the service manual but it is a pdf scan of the real thing
[22:04:08] <jthornton> we did have lots of good food and good times and I got to pull on the tail of a 13' alligator
[22:05:01] <zeeshan> usually you can run 5 minuites without oil
[22:05:06] <zeeshan> but you significantly reduce engine life
[22:05:15] <zeeshan> a good sign will be when you drain the oil
[22:05:25] <zeeshan> and send it for oil analysis if you dont see obvious flakes
[22:05:28] <Tom_itx> running with light load and coasting would help
[22:05:29] <jthornton> it splits
[22:05:31] <zeeshan> itll give you an idea of how much damage it did
[22:05:37] <XXCoder> run without oil then drain it off okay
[22:05:51] <jthornton> I was coasting down the bridge for the most part
[22:05:58] <zeeshan> jt did it happen randomly
[22:06:01] <zeeshan> or did you get warning
[22:07:47] <jthornton> I got an oil can light then it went into limp mode
[22:08:15] <zeeshan> damn it
[22:08:18] <zeeshan> thats exactly what my subaru did
[22:08:21] <zeeshan> when it blew the ring land
[22:08:21] <jthornton> I did get a strange shifting problem the day before and that is usually related to low oil pressure
[22:08:42] <zeeshan> then the oil can dissapeared
[22:08:53] <jthornton> I suspect that the oil filter collapsed or the suction tube collapsed
[22:11:00] <jthornton> well I'm winding down and starting to feel the effect of a long long day so night night
[22:11:10] <Tom_itx> gnite
[22:55:47] <XXCoder> I want this gun. heh http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/2/5/3/1253.jpg?v=2
[23:53:17] <Crom> XXCoder, for whom?
[23:53:32] <XXCoder> nobody as it cannot be made.
[23:53:43] <XXCoder> that was the joke
[23:54:07] <SpeedEvil> XXCoder: why not?
[23:54:14] <XXCoder> look closer
[23:54:36] <SpeedEvil> Other than the perspective is a bit broken, or it's a wierd shape.
[23:55:02] <XXCoder> look at angle of gun in respect of grip and trigger
[23:55:25] <XXCoder> it cannot be built and have it all connect together
[23:55:28] <Crom> look at the barrel opening vs the grip and trigger direction
[23:55:52] <SpeedEvil> It can be built and look like that. (from a distance or through one eye)
[23:56:12] <XXCoder> one specific view yeah. lemme show example I made over decade ago
[23:56:37] <XXCoder> http://im-possible.info/images/art/sculpture/tosevite/impossible_box.jpg
[23:56:39] <SpeedEvil> Broken perspective real objects are fun
[23:56:57] <XXCoder> I had to borrow my nephew toy bricks to stand it up
[23:57:27] <XXCoder> hes 15 now lol
[23:58:00] <XXCoder> http://im-possible.info/english/art/sculpture/tosevite.html
[23:58:33] <XXCoder> that guy asked me for permission to copy pics long time ago, its still up