#linuxcnc | Logs for 2016-03-16

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[00:03:43] <yasnak> cheaper then that? not so much
[00:03:44] <yasnak> lol
[00:04:09] <pink_vampire> yasnak: read again..
[00:04:11] <CaptHindsight> I can build you one full custom for lots more
[00:05:00] <CaptHindsight> even with your name engraved in the teak handle and bubinga storage case
[00:05:11] <pink_vampire> people say that it has some play and it's off center.
[00:07:42] <zeeshan> pink
[00:07:44] <zeeshan> i use this one
[00:07:46] <zeeshan> http://www.ebay.com/itm/TAP-GUIDE-TAPPING-MADE-IN-THE-USA-BY-FISHER-NEW-/141885484327?hash=item210908ad27:m:mW4J8pUWWGu_Pre5RD-zjbA
[00:07:47] <zeeshan> very nicely made
[00:18:07] <CaptHindsight> that turd, no exotic alloys, no laser guide, no bubinga storage case
[00:25:10] <pink_vampire> zeeshan: look very cute!
[00:29:11] <pink_vampire> and I want also threading end mills, but they SO expensive
[00:30:57] <pink_vampire> https://www.zoro.com/scientific-cutting-tools-thd-mill-single-intext-sc-14-18-56-tpi-sptm182/i/G3016684/
[00:31:05] <pink_vampire> 46$ O_O
[00:32:12] <os1r1s> pink_vampire I like SCT end mills
[00:32:18] <os1r1s> I only have 1, but it works well
[00:32:27] <pink_vampire> sct?
[00:33:05] <pink_vampire> os1r1s: link?
[00:33:35] <os1r1s> scientific cutting tools
[00:33:40] <os1r1s> Same company from that link
[00:34:56] <os1r1s> pink_vampire http://sct-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Catalog2015_81015_SPTM_STUBACME_ACME.pdf
[00:35:26] <pink_vampire> but for experiment that maybe going to kill the endmill 40$ it's too expensive
[00:36:23] <pink_vampire> I want it for brass aluminum and cold rolled steel.
[00:36:47] <pink_vampire> I think HSS willbe fine.
[00:39:13] <os1r1s> I used the one I posted to make acme threads
[00:39:16] <os1r1s> Worked great
[00:44:10] <pink_vampire> also i need small endmills for brass and aluminum. 1/8 1/16 1/32
[00:44:45] <os1r1s> pink_vampire Precise bits makes good small end mills
[00:47:03] <pink_vampire> i don't have the high speed spindle yet, so i want to order the cheap ones, because they going to break
[00:47:32] <pink_vampire> this is why i prefer the hss.
[00:49:26] <pink_vampire> os1r1s:
[01:04:54] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6QGLGJ-BOE
[01:06:06] <pink_vampire> what is the purpose of the sand above the weld?
[01:35:55] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_QzqPI2Dn8
[01:36:06] <pink_vampire> soo cool
[03:04:48] <pink_vampire> hi
[03:17:47] <Deejay> moin
[03:27:07] <pink_vampire> hi Deejay
[03:28:57] <Deejay> hi pink_vampire
[03:29:39] <pink_vampire> I'm thinking about dental turbine as high speed spindle.
[03:29:47] <pink_vampire> the burrs soo cheap.
[03:30:11] <pink_vampire> and it's go up to 300-400K rpm
[03:35:28] <pink_vampire> or something like that
[03:35:30] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu4NCUB_i-M
[03:40:22] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4ozLmEy6o4
[03:40:29] <pink_vampire> also look very nice
[04:40:19] <XXCoder> hey world
[04:48:06] <pink_vampire> hi XXCoder
[04:48:12] <XXCoder> whats up
[04:54:36] <pink_vampire> part of the panel get wires..
[04:55:30] <pink_vampire> but still long way to go..
[04:56:02] <XXCoder> theres always boring bits of project :)
[04:57:18] <pink_vampire> no..
[04:58:17] <pink_vampire> for me it's the most excited part
[04:58:25] <XXCoder> cool :)
[05:03:50] <pink_vampire> what do you think about that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4ozLmEy6o4
[05:04:15] <XXCoder> will look in couple mins
[05:08:09] <pink_vampire> ok
[05:08:18] <XXCoder> interesting
[05:08:26] <XXCoder> cutting egg shells
[05:09:24] <XXCoder> that persons definitely skilled.
[05:34:04] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: I'm thinking about using something like that as my high speed spindle.
[05:34:15] <XXCoder> that'd be great for engraving yeah
[05:35:46] <pink_vampire> for 3d machining
[05:37:26] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: ^
[05:37:35] <XXCoder> hmm dunno
[05:37:44] <XXCoder> depends on what material I guess
[05:39:36] <pink_vampire> any
[05:39:47] <pink_vampire> with 400K rpm..
[05:39:56] <XXCoder> cant do high rpm on hard metals but some will be fine
[05:40:11] <XXCoder> 400k? thought my 27k rpm was insane lol
[05:42:02] <pink_vampire> you can cut the top of an egg without crack it?
[05:42:16] <XXCoder> yeah
[05:44:35] <pink_vampire> make a video
[05:47:00] <XXCoder> interesting video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFYoTkY6Qi8
[05:47:42] <XXCoder> damn wood handle looks good
[05:47:44] <pink_vampire> I know this video
[05:48:23] <pink_vampire> he make a tap on aluminum for the handle - I didn't like it
[05:48:46] <XXCoder> whats wrong with that
[05:49:32] <pink_vampire> steel much better for that.
[05:50:55] <XXCoder> guess so
[05:58:57] <XXCoder> interesting video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QaKiXRa-n0
[06:11:13] <pink_vampire> I'm using the grid
[06:14:45] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: what kind of endmills are you using?
[06:14:58] <XXCoder> at work its usually carbide
[06:15:06] <XXCoder> american company made usually
[06:24:36] <XXCoder> home I use wl cheapo hss tools
[06:27:57] <pink_vampire> wl it's a brand?
[06:28:29] <XXCoder> lol no typo, supposed to be "el cheapo"
[06:28:35] <XXCoder> meaning very cheap
[06:28:49] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: I want to get 1/8" 1/16" 1/32" end mill for machining brass, aluminum, and cold rolled steel.
[06:28:56] <XXCoder> cool
[06:30:52] <pink_vampire> do you know about cheap source for getting that?
[06:31:04] <XXCoder> amazon
[06:31:25] <XXCoder> I think aliexpress has em too, but not much cheaper if I recall right
[06:32:01] <Sync_> I just snag new brandname endmills of ebay
[06:32:09] <Sync_> no need to deal with cheap china mills
[06:36:22] <pink_vampire> Sync_: but they going to break because the issue with the Z axis and the low RPM spindle. this is why I want to go with very cheap end mills.
[06:38:42] <Sync_> they are not going to break because of that
[06:39:50] <pink_vampire> the Z axis is not stable. in large end mills it's vibrate, on small ones it's just kill them
[06:40:04] <pink_vampire> so my goal is about 1-1.5$ per end mill
[06:40:21] <pink_vampire> I want to get 10+ of each size
[06:43:51] <pink_vampire> how many flute I need in the end mill for machining brass?
[06:44:31] <Simonious> One or more?
[06:44:35] <pink_vampire> for 1/16" end mill on 1000 rpm
[06:44:46] <pink_vampire> 1 2 4?
[06:45:39] <Simonious> beats me, maybe Google knows?
[06:46:04] <pink_vampire> :(
[06:47:37] <pink_vampire> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-4-Straight-Shank-HSS-CNC-4-Flute-End-Mill-Cutter-Milling-Machine-1-8-Bit-/222013690686?hash=item33b10c133e:g:TGUAAOSw5dNWsaoK
[06:47:47] <pink_vampire> how it's look?
[06:48:10] <Simonious> not like a 1/16th"
[06:48:37] <pink_vampire> I know
[06:48:54] <pink_vampire> I need 1/8 1/16 1/32
[06:52:40] <pink_vampire> http://www.amazon.com/Autek-Titanium-0-6mm-1-5mm-Engraving-ST0-6-1-5mm-10Ti/dp/B00IY51PHU/ref=pd_bxgy_469_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0ETYNEAH5YK49V8VTS1Y
[06:52:49] <pink_vampire> what is that end mill?
[06:53:10] <pink_vampire> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41oBOFxbLCL.jpg
[06:53:17] <Simonious> looks like it - I know less about this than you do :P
[06:53:18] <pink_vampire> this is the image
[06:53:51] <pink_vampire> for what materials it use?
[06:57:35] <Sync_> wood
[06:58:51] <pink_vampire> :(
[06:59:03] <Deejay> plastic ;)
[06:59:32] <pink_vampire> I'm think for pcb.
[06:59:37] <pink_vampire> it's a burr
[07:00:43] * jthornton goes mobile
[07:00:50] <Simonious> What operation in fusion360 should I use to cute these grooves? http://oi68.tinypic.com/2jdmd79.jpg Engrave is going NEXT to the line, Contour almost works, but it leaves gaps and I can't seem to configure it not to, trace, slot?
[07:02:09] <pink_vampire> Simonious: trace a line with V end mill
[07:02:15] <Simonious> ugh.. trace doesn't know how to select the rigt contours
[07:02:25] <Simonious> i wants to grab the edges, the bevels.. it's a mess
[07:02:29] <Simonious> *it
[07:03:04] <pink_vampire> I don't know about F360
[07:03:54] <pink_vampire> but on hsm you just select the deep line in the groove and make it along the Z and use V shape end mill
[07:04:41] <Simonious> engrave knows how to select the correct regions at least
[07:04:58] <Simonious> it seems the smartest, but it's offsetting the tool
[07:05:00] * Simonious looks some more
[07:05:33] <Simonious> eh.. even engrave struggles to select the regions
[07:05:38] <Simonious> maybe I created the part wrong
[07:07:03] <pink_vampire> just go to your cad software and make a line.
[07:07:26] <pink_vampire> and than select it
[07:07:26] <Simonious> so.. as you can see from the image it's a repeating patten
[07:07:39] <Simonious> so I used the circular pattern tool after making a small section
[07:08:11] <pink_vampire> I don't know that to tell you about F360.
[07:08:22] <pink_vampire> I want to buy the HSM works.
[07:08:42] <pink_vampire> it is super expensive but very well made.
[07:08:51] <pink_vampire> http://www.ebay.com/itm/10Pcs-0-8mm-Carbide-CNC-PCB-End-Mill-Endmill-Engraving-Bits-for-Milling-Machine-/381276801199?hash=item58c5de48af:g:72cAAOSw~gRVkPyM
[07:09:07] <pink_vampire> what do you think about those end mills?
[07:09:07] <Simonious> HSM and F360 are the same thing, one is stand alone, the other is integrated into solidworks
[07:09:40] <Sync_> they are cheap enough to try
[07:09:49] <Simonious> good for detail work, maybe even PCBs
[07:10:59] <pink_vampire> I seed it for brass, aluminum. and mild steel
[07:12:43] <Sync_> well, try them
[07:21:05] <R2E4> hsmworks is integrated in Solidworks
[07:21:12] <R2E4> hsm is for inventor
[07:22:44] <pink_vampire> I mean to works.
[07:27:16] <__rob> the hsm stuff in inventor looks to be identical to the hsm stuff in solidworks
[07:27:32] <__rob> works really well in inventor
[07:39:10] <R2E4> IS there a way to have linuxcnc ignore soft limits when doing a tool change?
[07:46:12] <yasnak> its HUMP dayyyy
[07:47:40] <Simonious> can fusion 360 do v-carve between two lines on a DXF? or at all..?
[07:50:29] <R2E4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82cYL2dPzqc
[07:52:55] <R2E4> v-carve was in beta in november, dont know if it made it in yet.
[08:05:32] <__rob> simonious, you should be able to use profile
[08:10:03] <Simonious> will check it out, looking into engrave at the moment
[08:10:16] <Simonious> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgR147SXP-w <- he talks about it at about the 15 minute mark
[08:32:21] <Simonious> got it working following the instructions in that video :)
[09:00:18] <R2E4> Whats the difference in using a 7i76E or 5i25 with 7i76? other than price. Any drawbacks with the 7i76E?
[09:02:53] <malcom2073> one is ethernet, one is PCI
[09:03:30] <malcom2073> From what I've heard, the ethernet one is beneficial if you want your control PC to be further from your machine, and not have to worry about signal noise in the cable between them
[09:04:18] <R2E4> Why would you ever want to use the 5i25 then?
[09:04:31] <malcom2073> if you don't have two ethernet ports maybe?
[09:06:57] <R2E4> offloading CPU cycles seems like a win win situation.
[09:07:51] <malcom2073> Does it offload cpu cycles? The loop still closes in linuxcnc, not on the mesaboard afaik
[10:05:47] <maxcnc> hi from a sunny nice day here in Germany
[10:10:01] <maxcnc> till later
[10:13:54] <Cromaglious_> nice 1927 Chevy barn find https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wn0KqoLnjM
[10:47:41] <tiwake> what is "best-in-class manufacturing"?
[10:48:06] <tiwake> its listed under "important skills"
[10:48:35] <MattyMatt_> marketing wank from porkbarrelers
[10:49:07] <tiwake> I don't doubt that...
[10:49:15] <tiwake> http://www.nsc.aero/employment/03/Manufacturing-Engineer-2016.pdf
[10:49:48] <MattyMatt_> US doesn't have a class system, so there's only best-of-all
[10:50:11] <MattyMatt_> allegedly, if you read the other marketing wank
[10:50:13] <witnit> I got my lathe yesterday, overallit seems pretty junky :P is clausing kind of bad?
[10:50:28] * Loetmichel just found some spare perspex 1/8"... and was fed up wading thru swarf in the workshop.. so i took 2 hours company time and made some swarf shields... spot the difference... -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16170 vs. http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16185
[10:50:42] <gregcnc> i think its meant to read state of the art
[10:50:47] <_methods> clausing is usually good
[10:50:56] <tiwake> probably going to apply for that, but no idea what best in class manufacturing techniques, or "knowledge of lean and/or six sigma concepts" means
[10:50:57] <malcom2073> I've got a clausing mill which is pretty nice, I'd heard good things about their lathes
[10:51:01] <malcom2073> but even a nice lathe, can be crap wit hmisuse
[10:51:03] <_methods> but good lathes can go bad when treated poorly
[10:51:45] <_methods> heheh
[10:51:49] <_methods> when good lathes go bad
[10:51:52] <_methods> lathes gone wild
[10:52:18] <MattyMatt_> lathes are born with original sin
[10:52:19] <witnit> it seems okay just not as sturdy as I was expecting
[10:52:26] <MattyMatt_> new = untrained and untested
[10:52:33] <MattyMatt_> add concrete
[10:52:40] <witnit> hydro nc2100 I thinks
[10:53:31] <CaptHindsight> don't forget gremlins, a curse, voodoo, invisible man in the sky, etc
[10:53:54] <witnit> Im just happy to have a big bore machine now with automatic chuck
[10:54:29] <CaptHindsight> witnit: whats wrong with it?
[10:54:37] <witnit> no controls
[10:55:10] <CaptHindsight> I know these guys that work on that kinda stuff
[10:55:17] <CaptHindsight> software and hardware
[10:55:17] <witnit> :P
[10:55:34] <witnit> I think alot of those guys go to that one irc chat room
[10:55:41] <witnit> whats it called again?
[10:56:15] <witnit> #emc or something?
[10:56:47] <CaptHindsight> they try to provide good advice but it often it's just a misdirected twitter feed
[10:57:11] <roycroft> "misdirected twitter" is redundant
[10:58:36] <MattyMatt_> Loetmichel, that makes me wonder why moving gantry machines don't often have the rails at the top of solid side walls
[10:58:59] <CaptHindsight> cost
[10:59:34] <MattyMatt_> accessibility too I guess
[10:59:43] <MattyMatt_> for setting up
[11:00:29] <Loetmichel> right
[11:01:02] <MattyMatt_> not an issue on my "whole garage" plan :)
[11:01:04] <Loetmichel> and you get away with less material when the bottom is just a plate and no "u"
[11:02:15] <Cromaglious_> that's a 3040?
[11:02:31] <Cromaglious_> tiwake: that's a 3040?
[11:05:17] <CaptHindsight> I think that many people don't understand the limitations of a gantry router and want it to do the work of a proper mill
[11:06:30] <Cromaglious_> CaptHindsight: true dat dude. my 3040 have over 0.020" flex on 5# of force
[11:06:41] <tiwake> Cromaglious_: what?
[11:07:11] <Cromaglious_> tiwake: the engraver you put the shields on. That's a 3040 correct?
[11:07:27] <tiwake> I have no idea what you are talking about
[11:07:29] <tiwake> lol
[11:08:11] <Cromaglious_> what size is that http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16170&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 engraver?
[11:08:31] <Cromaglious_> oops it was Loetmichel
[11:08:54] <Cromaglious_> Loetmichel: what size is that http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16170&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 engraver?
[11:09:29] <Cromaglious_> [08:25] * Loetmichel just found some spare perspex 1/8"... and was fed up wading thru swarf in the workshop.. so i took 2 hours company time and made some swarf shields... spot the difference... -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16170 vs. http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16185
[11:11:51] <CaptHindsight> Cromaglious_: I reworked a few that size from China for non-contact applications
[11:12:36] <Cromaglious_> non contact on a 3040 is good... cuz soon as they touch sommething, they're flexing..
[11:12:41] <CaptHindsight> I have one left that I'm going to put a spindle on for cutting but it doesn't take much force to get the gantry to flex
[11:13:49] <Loetmichel> Cromaglious_: thats a chinese CNC6040
[11:14:00] <Cromaglious_> thinking about redoing the gantry on mine to stiffen it up. using supported rods and adding a box section on the back section to resist twisting
[11:14:12] <pink_vampire> I didn't like the way my friend build the panel.. i took everything apart, and I'm working on it again
[11:14:43] <Cromaglious_> nice... 6040 is an usable size
[11:14:48] <Loetmichel> i am fine with it. can do F1800 at 0.2 depth in AlMg3 with a 2mm 2flute...
[11:14:55] <CaptHindsight> more for drilling in acrylics, vinyl, or maybe some openings for connectors in aluminum or thin cold roll
[11:15:00] <Loetmichel> or F600 with 1mm depth and same
[11:15:21] <Loetmichel> Cromaglious_: always to small
[11:16:03] <Cromaglious_> better than a 3040
[11:16:08] <Loetmichel> i made one for my ex boss that was bigger: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=4935
[11:16:20] <Loetmichel> 1500*1020*160mm travel...
[11:16:46] <Loetmichel> ut i sadly dont have the room to do another one of these
[11:16:58] <pink_vampire> long nails and wiring is soooo complicated :(
[11:17:17] <MattyMatt_> I've considered U channel behind my gantry, as that leaves somewhere convenient for the drag chain
[11:17:28] <Cromaglious_> hmm 160mm == 6 3/8"ish Z...
[11:18:03] <CaptHindsight> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter
[11:19:04] <CaptHindsight> Content Pointless babble – 40%
[11:19:29] <MattyMatt_> malicious babble, the other 60%
[11:19:40] <Cromaglious_> ROFL only 40%
[11:19:55] <Cromaglious_> MattyMatt_: too true
[11:20:44] <MattyMatt_> exagerated claims - 150%
[11:20:56] <Cromaglious_> Loetmichel: how much did it cost you to build the bigger one?
[11:21:05] <CaptHindsight> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/twit
[11:22:39] <Loetmichel> about 4000 eur. but it was 10 years ago
[11:22:43] <Loetmichel> today thats much loess
[11:23:52] <CaptHindsight> Loetmichel: what spindle is in the 6040?
[11:26:20] <Loetmichel> watercooled chinese 24krpm ER11 spindfdle
[11:26:53] <CaptHindsight> did they spec it at 400 or 800W?
[11:28:08] <Loetmichel> 800W
[11:28:13] <CaptHindsight> Loetmichel: it looks smaller in the pic but is it ~70mm in diameter?
[11:28:54] <Loetmichel> 80
[11:29:08] <Loetmichel> same as my home machine
[11:29:27] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12569
[11:31:00] <CaptHindsight> most of the flex in the China gantry routers is from the aluminum vertical supports
[11:35:57] <CaptHindsight> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=27192 is how mine were made
[11:38:06] <CaptHindsight> Loetmichel design has the linear bearings closer to the edge so it will have less flex than mine
[11:38:43] <MacGyverX> Does anyone know of an config examples on how to use rotary encoders in a closed loop config with LCNC?
[11:39:09] <CaptHindsight> MacGyverX: with steppers or servos?
[11:39:17] <MacGyverX> Sorry Steppers
[11:40:47] <CaptHindsight> Cromaglious_: these didn't even have threaded ends on the ballscrews for setting bearing preload, I had to shim them
[11:47:02] <Cromaglious_> eeeshz... well I do have a metal lathe
[11:47:23] <CaptHindsight> MacGyverX: check this thread https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/3916-closed-loop-with-steppers
[11:48:13] <CaptHindsight> he had linear encodes but it's similar
[11:48:37] <MacGyverX> I was looking at that, but I don’t see where they are assigning the input pins for the encoders
[11:50:30] <CaptHindsight> #linear encoders
[11:50:30] <CaptHindsight> setp hm2_5i20.0.encoder.00.scale 200
[11:50:30] <CaptHindsight> setp hm2_5i20.0.encoder.00.filter 1
[11:50:37] <CaptHindsight> etc etc
[11:51:24] <MacGyverX> Thats the scale factor thou?
[11:53:16] <pcw_home> encoder position scale is counts/machine unit
[12:04:51] <FloppyDisk> MacGyverX - pins are assigned based on the hm2_mot driver (I think), this line:
[12:04:52] <FloppyDisk> loadrt hm2_pci config=" num_encoders=4 num_pwmgens=0 num_3pwmgens=0 num_stepgens=0 sserial_port_0=000xx "
[12:05:27] <FloppyDisk> You need to add to the num_encoders=xxx, this is for a Mesa board. Depends on your hardware.
[12:06:10] <FloppyDisk> My setup was 5i25/7i77, not sure on other hardware.
[12:07:44] <MacGyverX> Hrmm
[12:08:16] <MacGyverX> Thanks for the info, that gets me little closer to figure this out.
[12:08:18] <CaptHindsight> MacGyverX: you might want to peruse the HAL docs
[12:08:28] <FloppyDisk> What hardware do you have?
[12:09:23] <MacGyverX> Two different setups. One is a stock PC with LCNC & and MX4660 (normal parallel port) the other is a BBB /w MachineKit
[12:09:41] <MacGyverX> The second setup has a MX3660
[12:10:11] <FloppyDisk> Hmpf, no clue then... Ignore my suggestion because it's for a mesa setup.
[12:10:22] <MacGyverX> k.
[12:10:32] <FloppyDisk> Per CaptHindsight, look to the HAL and Motion info...
[12:10:41] <FloppyDisk> Let me see if i can find a link.
[12:11:24] <CaptHindsight> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/hal/intro.html
[12:11:40] <MacGyverX> Just surprised this hasn’t been done and documented. I found a reference in the wiki and the author said they would post there hal & ini. But that post was from 2007.
[12:11:55] <CaptHindsight> it's common
[12:12:16] <MacGyverX> What I am trying to do?
[12:12:20] <CaptHindsight> you get excited about the machine working and forget to post for others
[12:12:27] <MacGyverX> Oh
[12:12:51] <FloppyDisk> Or, you don't get back to it, too many things to do:-( (not that I have much to add)
[12:13:01] <CaptHindsight> or you get so fed up you're just glad it's working and try to forget what caused the pain :)
[12:13:22] <Loetmichel> Cromaglious_: i have a "lathe" too...
[12:13:27] <CaptHindsight> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/hal/basic_hal.html
[12:14:10] <CaptHindsight> there was another forum post bit the link to the config is broken
[12:14:12] <Loetmichel> works well enough for small acme thread ends tho: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=520&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
[12:14:21] <FloppyDisk> I live off this page: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/
[12:14:23] <Cromaglious_> mine is a sheldon 10" overhead leather belt drive. Got a Shars series 100 qctp on it with taper atachment
[12:14:32] <Cromaglious_> cira 1945
[12:14:43] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14058 <- REALLY tiny ;)
[12:14:54] <FloppyDisk> Then, go down and open the "REALTIME COMPONENTS AND KERNAL MODULES" then 'motion' here:
[12:14:59] <FloppyDisk> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/motion.9.html
[12:15:32] <Cromaglious_> 7"?
[12:16:00] <Loetmichel> Cromaglious_: harbor freight "c0"
[12:16:05] <Loetmichel> is that 7"?
[12:16:09] <Loetmichel> or even smaller?
[12:16:13] <FloppyDisk> dunno... And, looks like Encoder pins are not on the 'motion' page,
[12:16:15] <Cromaglious_> yeah 7x10
[12:16:50] <Cromaglious_> I can get 10x22 between centers
[12:17:45] <pcw_home> encoder pins come from the hardware (for hardware encoder drivers) or encoder component (for software encoders like used on a parallel port systerm)
[12:17:56] <pcw_home> system
[12:17:58] <Loetmichel> hmm, it says 100mm diameter and 125mm between centers
[12:18:12] <Loetmichel> i doubt thats a 7"*10"
[12:18:32] <FloppyDisk> Yup - looks like encoder component has encoder.N.phase-A which is a "bit in" for channel A - that's your answer...
[12:18:46] <FloppyDisk> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/encoder.9.html
[12:19:13] <Loetmichel> Cromaglious_: i have a bigger one... didnt come aound to fix the motor since 2007 tho...
[12:19:45] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=11462&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
[12:19:50] <Loetmichel> oh sorry, 20010
[12:20:05] <Loetmichel> still 6 years that i had no pressing need to repair it ;)
[12:20:41] <Cromaglious_> I need to work on my motor switch... it goes into forward, but reverse, the start winding isn't connecting. So I need to fix that. just spinning the motor in reverse by hand to get it started
[12:21:49] <OdinYggd> ABZ?
[12:22:01] <Loetmichel> i already bought a new three phase motor for the "big" lathe... and a fitting single phase-> three phase VFD.... just hadnt the drive to make new mouts for it and fit it in the lathe ;)
[12:23:45] <Cromaglious_> heh.. sounds about like me... when there is a need it'll get fixed... until them oh well
[12:27:41] <OdinYggd> My boss wants me to fix the toilet.
[12:27:50] <OdinYggd> I told him if you leave it alone it starts working again
[12:27:56] <OdinYggd> Of course my coworkers are so full of shit that they can't
[12:28:02] <OdinYggd> and then they lie about using it even though it is blokced up
[12:28:26] <OdinYggd> Bleh. Poorly designed septic system, and I would need to jackhammer the floor to fix it
[12:28:49] <FloppyDisk> jackhammers are fun...
[12:29:28] <OdinYggd> Not in a cubicle sized men's bathroom
[12:29:37] <OdinYggd> with no accoustic surpression whatsoever
[12:32:16] <Loetmichel> OdinYggd: get a hearing protector, get a jackhammer and a watertight jumpsuit... and hammer away ;)
[12:32:38] <Loetmichel> fun job
[12:33:42] <OdinYggd> Or just flush a few grams of sodium
[12:33:44] <OdinYggd> BOOM
[12:33:45] <OdinYggd> no more pipes.
[12:56:48] <Cromaglious_> make a cone out of something, put a layer of foam over it. Put a hole through the middle and use an air hose to blow it out the vent stack and sink
[12:57:34] <Cromaglious_> or put a solenoid on the air hose and get an arduino to trigger it off and on and a faily high pulse rate
[13:01:27] <Cromaglious_> which is why I have a 15 meter usb camera to look down pipes
[13:01:41] <_methods> just cover the toilet bowl with saran wrap
[13:01:45] <_methods> then put the lid down lol
[13:03:11] <enleth> at the previous place, we had one room directly below the toilets for the rest of the building and one of the pipes running inside the ceiling clogged up
[13:03:24] <enleth> someone tried to fix that using high pressure water
[13:03:45] <enleth> they thought it worked - stuff was going somewhere after all
[13:03:52] <enleth> nah, the pipe cracked inside the ceiling
[13:04:04] <enleth> then the shitstorm ensued
[13:04:11] <_methods> literally
[13:05:34] <CaptHindsight> or try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcLrHKOvEFI Japanese toilet prank
[13:06:00] <_methods> jesus never do japanese pranks
[13:06:02] <_methods> are you insane
[13:07:09] <_methods> damn that dude pulled his pants down around his ankles to piss like a 5y/o
[13:09:33] <enleth> we had to hang a huge piece of plastic sheeting from the ceiling to direct all that shitty water dripping all over the place into one corner and put a barrel there
[13:10:22] <CaptHindsight> I'm not a fan of Asian toilets
[13:10:32] <Cromaglious_> squat pots
[13:10:34] <_methods> you mean holes in the ground?
[13:11:00] <enleth> then draw straws to choose who's next to empty the barrel
[13:11:21] <_methods> new meaning to the word shitty job
[13:12:00] <CaptHindsight> now the Japanese versions with wipers, sprays, chisels, drying jets etc. aren't bad
[13:13:55] <_methods> smart toilets
[13:14:38] <archivist> you might get castrated is it is running mach3
[13:14:46] <archivist> is/if
[13:14:55] <_methods> mach pee
[13:14:59] <Cromaglious_> hehe
[13:15:59] <maxcnc> hi from sunset in germany
[13:16:28] <maxcnc> tommorrow spring will arive acording to local radio stations
[13:16:39] <enleth> on a related note, never, ever try to get into a paid self-cleaning public toilet by having the door held open by the previous occupant
[13:18:42] <Cromaglious_> WHAT A pos SHITGUN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW7k8WHS2Go
[13:19:28] <enleth> they do *not* have an occupancy detector, they just start the cleaning cycle as soon as the door is closed for the second time after payment
[13:19:54] <SpeedEvil> enleth: hah
[13:20:03] <SpeedEvil> what an excellent method of trolling people.
[13:20:35] <enleth> serves them right for trying to crap for free, I guess
[13:30:59] <CaptHindsight> http://www.build.com/kohler-k-3901-toilet/s873433 $4753.88 Originally $6,338.50, Your Savings: 25%
[13:32:16] <CaptHindsight> look at all its features
[13:32:41] <CaptHindsight> Ambient lighting with seven colors and three programming options
[13:32:41] <CaptHindsight> Built-in speakers
[13:33:00] <CaptHindsight> Touch-screen remote control
[13:33:25] <CaptHindsight> "going to the bathroom was never like this"
[13:35:05] <Cromaglious_> freeway to get a shower though
[13:40:12] <Cromaglious_> irobot bravva mopping robot
[13:46:09] <Cromaglious_> wooo live action Jungle book movie, gonna have to see that on the big screen
[13:48:04] <CaptHindsight> Cromaglious_: is there one that searches for lost change in sofas?
[13:48:36] <CaptHindsight> wth, they have a defense division!
[13:49:09] <CaptHindsight> don't leave a mess for your enemy
[13:49:39] <Cromaglious_> that's called a grandchild
[13:50:00] <Cromaglious_> really stupid AI in those
[13:50:08] <CaptHindsight> for Seek Out and Clean missions
[13:57:04] <_methods> search and destroy.......messes
[13:58:09] <Cromaglious_> the AI in the grandkid robots are only good for finding shiny bits or things that taste yummy
[13:58:26] <Cromaglious_> or asking 'are we there yet'
[14:00:18] <Crom_> Lance over at ChuckE2009 has too much money....
[14:00:57] <CaptHindsight> http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=hvlp anyone try any of these with solvent paints?
[14:01:07] <Crom_> he has a butt load of plasma cutters, tig, mig machines and has a cnc plasma table with another hypertherm cutter
[14:01:28] <_methods> yeah
[14:01:30] <CaptHindsight> I'm looking for something that I won't upset about if the solvents kill it
[14:01:32] <_methods> they work ok
[14:01:39] <_methods> you just gotta keep them really clean
[14:02:02] <_methods> some of them have shoddy fan nozzles and needles and stuff
[14:02:14] <CaptHindsight> sounds about right
[14:02:19] <CaptHindsight> pick a good one
[14:02:22] <_methods> i always buy 2 guns that way i can dissassemble and build a good one
[14:02:29] <CaptHindsight> or return until you get a winner
[14:02:33] <_methods> if you get lucky you get 2 good guns
[14:03:02] <_methods> my asturo lays a better fan than those will ever dream of
[14:03:18] <_methods> but if you're not trying to get a show room finish they work fine
[14:03:26] <CaptHindsight> http://www.harborfreight.com/deluxe-airbrush-kit-95810.html
[14:03:53] <andypugh> I don’t understand “160 PSI HVLP Air Regulator”
[14:03:55] <_methods> yeah i don't know about that
[14:04:02] <_methods> i've never used their airbrush kit
[14:04:19] <CaptHindsight> this is for applying coatings before spin coating, so you can almost use a regular brush
[14:04:37] <_methods> then you'll be happy with that HF gun
[14:07:29] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: I think that it's the max inlet pressure into the included regulator
[14:08:51] <_methods> material has a tendency to build up and sputter on the nozzles though
[14:09:10] <_methods> i keep a brush with thinner nearby to hit the nozzle with
[14:09:20] <_methods> then i just hit the air fan only
[14:09:55] <_methods> keeps it from getting globs when you first start to lay down a pass
[14:10:08] <andypugh> Well, yes but there is no need at all for a HVLP reg to go up to 160psi. It’s hard to find a compressor that goes above 120psi
[14:10:26] <_methods> i think it's from that shit fit between needle and nozzle in most of them
[14:10:37] <CaptHindsight> those are Chinese PSI
[14:10:40] <_methods> lol
[14:10:54] <_methods> yeah it's more like 40 real world psi
[14:11:16] <andypugh> Interestingly the unit coversion app on my phone thinks that 8 bar is 1160 PSI.
[14:11:36] <_methods> where did you see this 160psi?
[14:11:59] <andypugh> On that harbour freight spraygin page
[14:12:18] <andypugh> Hmm, spraygin. There might be a market for that.
[14:12:28] <_methods> hahah
[14:12:38] <_methods> i'll be in the market for that here in a couple hours
[14:12:52] <_methods> oh that 160 psi regulator lol
[14:13:02] <_methods> it has 14 reviews and 1 star
[14:13:03] <_methods> hahahah
[14:13:32] <_methods> the comments are hilarious
[14:17:29] <andypugh> It seems to be not particularly well thought-of :-)
[14:18:23] <andypugh> Though I suspect that the fault is with HF calling it a “diaphragm regulator”
[14:20:40] <CaptHindsight> I have that one. It's just a ball valve with a gauge
[14:21:57] <CaptHindsight> it's manual on/off regulation :)
[14:21:59] <_methods> yeah it appears they're calling an on/off valve a regulator lol
[14:22:11] <archivist> I like the ma125psi on the dial, the 160 is just a case of it "goes to 11"
[14:22:17] <archivist> max
[14:22:24] <andypugh> I guess if you were good you could PWM it :-)
[14:22:33] <_methods> meh it's bottom of the harbor freight
[14:22:42] <_methods> classic case of get what you pay for
[14:23:22] <CaptHindsight> i wonder if they also have a 1.99 air compressor. It's a baggie with a rubber band
[14:23:34] <andypugh> Except that they have another at half the price which is a regulator: http://www.harborfreight.com/150-psi-air-compressor-regulator-kit-with-dial-gauge-68223.html
[14:23:52] <CaptHindsight> or the vacuum pumps that are just fans
[14:24:21] <CaptHindsight> I have that one as well
[14:24:44] <CaptHindsight> i forget if it's a regulator or just a valve
[14:25:05] <CaptHindsight> oh, I think it's just a valve with a finer adjustment
[14:25:39] <CaptHindsight> it's like a 10:1 ration on turns from open to closed
[14:25:47] <andypugh> CaptHindsight: Some very good vac pumps are just fans. Very expensive fans
[14:25:50] <CaptHindsight> ration/ratio
[14:26:07] <_methods> http://www.harborfreight.com/4-gal-2-hp-125-psi-twin-tank-air-compressor-60567.html
[14:26:18] <_methods> i bought that compressor there for $70 like 10 years ago
[14:26:28] <_methods> and somehow that thing just keeps on working
[14:26:52] <_methods> that way i have an excuse to buy a good compressor
[14:27:03] <_methods> but it just keeps on surviving
[14:27:11] <CaptHindsight> I use it for small pneumatic valves
[14:27:27] <CaptHindsight> have a pancake one from them as well
[14:27:33] <andypugh> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shimadzu-TMP-TMP-1503LM-Turbo-Molecular-Pump-30300rpm-/252306888425 <- super-expensive fan.
[14:27:44] <CaptHindsight> for $60
[14:27:52] <_methods> with a name like shimadzu
[14:27:56] <_methods> i know i can't afford it
[14:27:57] <_methods> lol
[14:29:36] <CaptHindsight> http://www.foodsaver.com/accessories-and-parts/foodsaver-the-new-handheld-sealer/FA2000-000.html?gclid=CLfkr-HyxcsCFQqKaQodV5cPUQ&kwid=productads-adid^55532574490-device^c-plaid^18283950120-sku^FA2000@ADL4000-adType^PLA
[14:29:45] <CaptHindsight> $14.99
[14:38:42] <CaptHindsight> I'm surprised that irobot doesn't have a beer and snack delivering bot yet
[14:49:37] <maxcnc> Gn8
[14:49:53] <SpeedEvil> I have a grocery delivering robot.
[14:50:01] <SpeedEvil> They look like humans though, it's spooky.
[14:51:20] <CaptHindsight> meat robots, yeah we have too many here as well
[14:55:16] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: combine ircbot with same code as those amazon ondemend buttons
[14:55:45] <XXCoder> then say something like ;ondemend chips
[14:56:17] <_methods> ^^
[15:08:06] <OdinYggd> import chips
[15:08:08] <OdinYggd> import beer
[15:08:15] <OdinYggd> import drone
[15:08:17] <OdinYggd> import dleivery
[15:08:20] <OdinYggd> *delivery
[15:08:32] <OdinYggd> inb4 someone shoots it down cause they want the beer
[15:13:18] <XXCoder> import beer; import human; main() { Beer beer = new Beer(); while(human.notDead() == true) { human.drink(beer); beer = new Beer(); } }
[15:13:59] <XXCoder> oops invalid variable error: human not found
[15:28:08] <Deejay> Exception: Excessive use of resource beer. Object human was terminated.
[15:30:42] <XXCoder> lol
[16:21:48] <CaptHindsight> is there an IRC client that lets you flag users with certain colors or fonts?
[16:22:19] <XXCoder> I guess there could be some python scripts that can do that.
[16:22:29] <XXCoder> depends on client support of scripts of course.
[16:22:42] <CaptHindsight> yeah, just looking first
[16:23:25] <CaptHindsight> probably easier then a plugin to unread some comments
[16:23:45] <XXCoder> unread heh
[16:23:53] <XXCoder> I wish I could unread some lousy books
[16:23:53] * roycroft hands capthindsight a box of highlighter markers
[16:25:12] <jdh> irssi
[16:26:15] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: ever try to return them for a refund?
[16:26:35] <XXCoder> thankfully good part of those was library books
[16:32:13] <CaptHindsight> same for movies
[17:30:52] <Deejay> gn8
[17:32:32] <Cromaglious_> got tired of webchat on this machine and installed hex chat
[17:34:32] <OdinYggd> Good chocie.
[17:34:32] <OdinYggd> Have some technology. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzCsDVfPQqk
[17:34:32] <OdinYggd> We literally can't build this anymore.
[17:34:32] <OdinYggd> Most of the at the time stock hardware is no longer available and would have to have equivalents selected.
[17:34:33] <OdinYggd> Secondly, nobody has the budget for such a thing
[17:34:33] <OdinYggd> Or the experience with such titanic engines
[17:34:33] <OdinYggd> Even though the merlins demonstrate that the tech behind the F-1 is still flyable, and can be pushed to far greater fuel economy and power to weight
[17:34:54] <Cromaglious_> we're using 30 year old russion engines right now...
[17:35:03] <OdinYggd> No we aren't
[17:35:22] <OdinYggd> Antares was using those, one of them blew up and they had to go back to the drawing board to redesign their craft around a different engine
[17:35:28] <Cromaglious_> they're making new ones now?
[17:35:36] <OdinYggd> SpaceX makes their own- the Merlin 1C and 1D powers the falcon 9
[17:36:03] <OdinYggd> Those are SpaceX's own engines, drawing on the knowledge of historic designs and improved with modern metals and controls
[17:42:23] <OdinYggd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxMuxZWtiOU Pretty sure the ULA builds their own engines too
[17:42:23] <OdinYggd> I don't know the details of those
[17:42:24] <Cromaglious_> OMG LMAO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK_p_kKJneY
[17:42:24] <Cromaglious_> gotta love AvE
[17:42:25] <OdinYggd> Lol
[17:42:26] <OdinYggd> Its just a dirty thermocouple
[17:42:26] <OdinYggd> millivolt system
[17:42:26] <OdinYggd> you have to have all the contacts exactly right
[17:42:26] <Cromaglious_> dinosaur squeezings vs dead tree carcasses
[17:42:26] <_methods> yeah that guy is pretty damn funny
[17:42:27] <_methods> i watched the one where he tore down that POS festool saw
[17:42:27] <OdinYggd> I used to have the same fireplace on the farm
[17:42:27] <Cromaglious_> that was epic.. the blender was pretty funny as well
[17:42:27] <OdinYggd> The house was equipped to utilize any available fuel
[17:42:27] <OdinYggd> Gas fireplace, coal stoker, and oil central heat
[17:42:28] <_methods> i didn't see the blender one
[17:42:28] <OdinYggd> So base load was handled by the coal stoker, while trim was either oil or gas dpeneding on cost
[17:42:28] <OdinYggd> and if I ran out of coal, plenty of wood to use
[17:42:28] <_methods> that's really the only video of his i think i've watched all the way thru
[17:42:30] <_methods> i had to look up all that chooch and skooker stuff he says
[17:42:30] <_methods> apparently it's some redneck canadian talk
[17:43:22] <_methods> i watched a couple episodes of trailer park boys one time so i thought i knew everything about canadians
[17:43:28] <_methods> but apparently i did not
[17:43:33] <_methods> they have other words
[17:44:08] <_methods> besides eh and hoser
[17:44:17] <Cromaglious_> ehh? they do? thought I hear all of them from A to Zed
[17:59:30] <__rob> https://goo.gl/photos/b3uxENvC8pwk48347
[17:59:34] <__rob> new screen setup!
[18:00:58] <__rob> proper monster
[18:02:41] <gregcnc> 40?
[18:08:37] <_methods> so many icons no wonder you had to get a new monitor
[18:09:42] <_methods> heh you might not want to put pics of your keys on the internetz
[18:10:10] <_methods> if you're the paranoid sort
[18:16:43] <Tom_itx> mmm that would make a nice cad monitor
[18:17:09] <Tom_itx> ... dual monitors
[18:17:25] * Tom_itx smacks zeeshan for being late
[18:17:29] <_methods> hehe i have 3
[18:17:45] <Tom_itx> i have 4 but they're all on separate pcs
[18:17:56] <Tom_itx> in the office that is
[18:18:02] <Tom_itx> one in the garage for the cnc
[18:18:34] <Tom_itx> how does windows handle 3? ok?
[18:18:41] <_methods> i have 4 actually
[18:18:45] <_methods> 3 monitors
[18:18:52] <_methods> and a 55" tv
[18:19:00] <Tom_itx> i wasn't counting the tv
[18:19:23] <Tom_itx> then there's 3 surface pro 3's sitting here..
[18:19:34] <_methods> https://www.dropbox.com/s/l3irb07xtdteqpi/2013-03-08%2018.38.36.jpg?dl=0
[18:19:38] <Tom_itx> i don't use em though
[18:20:13] <_methods> yeah windows handles multiple monitors much better than linux that's for sure
[18:20:38] <Tom_itx> i like the dual monitors at the lab
[18:20:49] <Tom_itx> until the instructor steals one and my stuff is all over it
[18:21:00] <_methods> i only have 1 monitor per machine in the garage
[18:21:37] <_methods> it's pretty sad that most of us probably have more computers in our garages than most normal people have in their homes
[18:21:44] <Tom_itx> i was over there yesterday and stopped in the lab.. they were having a mastercam session
[18:21:55] <Tom_itx> true
[18:22:24] <Tom_itx> the cnc lab has a whole room full of haas controls sitting on each desk beside their pcs
[18:23:00] <_methods> oh yeah those are nice for trainig
[18:23:02] <Tom_itx> i dunno if they can simulate with them or not
[18:23:16] <Tom_itx> i suppose they could
[18:23:18] <_methods> yeah you can use the control simulation feature
[18:23:24] <_methods> it's pretty rudimentray
[18:23:30] <_methods> jeebus i can't type tonight
[18:33:14] <__rob> gregcnc yea, 40" 4k
[18:33:53] <__rob> the light started flickering in one of my 22"
[18:34:04] <__rob> so opted for just a single large instead
[18:34:38] <__rob> its pretty sweet for altium
[18:34:59] <__rob> can be zoomed in routing a pcb and still see most of the rest of the board
[18:35:54] <__rob> _methods, if someone can make my keys from that picture, find where I live
[18:36:09] <__rob> and get in, they can have my screen
[18:36:26] <_methods> yeah that's why i said if you were the tin foil type
[18:50:41] <CaptHindsight> heh, a while you are at it copy his fingerprints from the drink bottle
[18:50:48] <CaptHindsight> just like on CSI
[18:53:59] <_methods> http://singularityhub.com/2011/06/29/your-keys-can-be-copied-from-a-picture-taken-200-feet-away/
[18:54:03] <_methods> that's from 2011
[18:54:24] <_methods> the capability to copy keys from pictures at a distance has gotten a bit better
[18:54:57] <_methods> highly unlikely
[18:55:28] <_methods> but still like i said if you're tin foil hat wearing type you might want to avoid it
[18:59:31] <OdinYggd> Easily avoided.
[18:59:38] <OdinYggd> Keep your keys in your pocket till they are needed
[18:59:42] <OdinYggd> and no shiny surfaces near the lock.
[19:01:14] <SpeedEvil> The risk has probably gone up way more than that since 2011 since cameraphones have gotten more cpable
[19:01:26] <SpeedEvil> - more people with them
[19:01:40] <SpeedEvil> most cameras in 2011 were potato quality
[19:26:22] <Sync_> eh, 4k on 40" would piss me off real fast at my desk
[19:28:15] <Sync_> I'd see pixels again
[19:37:39] <OdinYggd> I can't see anything better than 720p unless the screen is bigger than 24"
[19:37:54] <OdinYggd> My laptop's 17" 1080p I don't see pixels at all, I just see curves
[19:47:27] <Sync_> well, I have eyesight between 20/12.5 and 20/16
[19:47:52] <Sync_> or whatever the conversion to us units is
[19:48:38] <OdinYggd> If I take my glasses off, the big E turns into a shapeless smudge.
[19:48:47] <OdinYggd> Making me wonder where the threshold for legally blind is
[19:49:27] <Sync_> if you have worse than 20/200
[19:49:35] <Sync_> so you are legally blind
[19:49:38] <Sync_> from my understanding
[19:49:43] <OdinYggd> I dunno what that would be on a chart
[19:49:50] <Sync_> 20/200 is the E
[19:50:02] <OdinYggd> ...well then
[19:50:09] <OdinYggd> Finally I can quit my job and get disabilityt!
[19:50:31] <OdinYggd> Seriously tired of the middle manager
[19:50:38] <OdinYggd> Though he's gone for the rest of the week I can get some work done
[19:50:40] <Sync_> it was funny, when the army pulled me in for testing the nurse was like "wat? are you blind?"
[19:50:56] <Sync_> and then noticed that she had the next smaller slide in the thing
[19:51:45] <Sync_> ah, wait
[19:51:54] <Sync_> you are only legally blind if you miss 20/200 with glasses
[19:52:21] <OdinYggd> Damn.
[19:52:30] <OdinYggd> Mine are getting pretty up there too in thickness
[19:52:44] <OdinYggd> Ending up with nerd glasses
[19:53:55] <Sync_> what kind of diopter do you need?
[19:54:31] <OdinYggd> I'd have to go look on a chart again
[19:54:47] <OdinYggd> Like I said though the big E becomes a grayish smudge without
[19:55:12] <OdinYggd> Also my left eye is 3 degrees out of alignment along the viewing axis and requires a prism lens to correct
[19:55:30] <OdinYggd> Sometimes I wonder if I can pick it out, turn it that 3 degrees, and pop it back in
[19:55:33] <OdinYggd> obviously not practical
[19:55:43] <Sync_> you can have it surgically corrected, that works
[19:55:55] <Sync_> a friend of mine has 37dpt and pretty thin glasses
[19:56:09] <Sync_> but that is only possible for about 10 years or so
[19:56:12] <OdinYggd> I'm told that such a rotation happens if you crack your head on something solid a few times too many
[19:56:39] <OdinYggd> Makes me wonder if I'll ever succeed in knocking it back into line, cause banging my head on stuff above me is an occupational hazard
[19:58:30] <Sync_> if it is astigmatism that's not scientifically proven
[19:58:43] <OdinYggd> I've heard them mention that technical name for it
[19:59:00] <OdinYggd> No clue what causes it, I just know it means nobody else can use my glasses
[19:59:06] <OdinYggd> because the prism causes dizzyness in anyone not used to it
[19:59:13] <Sync_> lasik is the easiest
[19:59:17] <Sync_> to cure it
[20:00:45] <OdinYggd> After all the safety warnings about lasers and not looking at the light
[20:01:08] <OdinYggd> the part I don't get about laser eye surgery is how they keep the laser aligned to your eye
[20:01:16] <OdinYggd> Cause if I blink or flinch at just the right moment, RIP
[20:01:55] <Sync_> if you are able to blink through the hooks that keep your eyelid out of the way, yes that would be bad
[20:31:02] <malcom2073> OdinYggd: I thought they put drops in your eye to stop it from moving
[20:31:27] <malcom2073> But everytime I see the video of the tool they use to slice the lense (or whatever) open for the procedure.... *cringe*
[20:44:41] <__rob> Sync_ think its 110 dpi or something, so more than my previous 22" screens
[20:44:45] <__rob> and no windows scaling
[20:45:01] <__rob> so sharper and more pixels for me at least
[20:48:37] <Sync_> I have 4k in 24" and it is ok
[22:57:17] <enleth> any opinions on Copley Controls servo drives?
[22:57:42] <enleth> they look suspiciously similar to AMCs
[23:34:08] <CaptHindsight> I only avoid drives made by Uzbeks or that smell of cabbage
[23:38:02] <CaptHindsight> Copley Controls is owned by Analogic http://www.analogic.com/about-us-global-businesses.htm
[23:38:51] <enleth> heh, I guess there's just so many ways to make a distinctly looking servo drive
[23:38:58] <enleth> or maybe they collaborated somehow
[23:41:50] <CaptHindsight> lots of them look similar
[23:42:15] <CaptHindsight> 2 sides aluminum for conductive cooling
[23:42:50] <CaptHindsight> cold roll enclosure and typical connectors
[23:43:41] <CaptHindsight> http://www.a-m-c.com/products/img/standardfamily.jpg
[23:44:10] <CaptHindsight> http://copleycontrols.com/Motion/Products/Drives/Digital/index.html
[23:44:41] <enleth> those appear to be new Copleys
[23:45:09] <enleth> ones from the 90s look almost identical to AMCs of similar size
[23:46:37] <CaptHindsight> search for "servo drives images"
[23:48:39] <enleth> thing is, there *are* quite a lot of those 90s black-terminals-on-one-side-with-big-green-on-bottom AMC drives licensed and rebranded by other companies
[23:49:24] <enleth> so it may just as well be such a case, even if the current lineup of Copley Controls drives isn't
[23:49:49] <FloppyDisk> I have used some copley stepper driver/controller - good stuff, OEM focused...
[23:50:07] <FloppyDisk> Both AMC and copley are reputable, in my mind.
[23:50:49] <FloppyDisk> I have a copley 800-922, which is a custom 422, that looks like the AMC drives, want to install it, no time.
[23:51:26] <enleth> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-ADVANCED-MOTION-A-M-C-B12A6N-PV4-ANALOG-SERVO-DRIVE-BRUSHLESS-PWM-AMPLIFIER-/110867540770 - this one for example, even the seller used the AMC brand and the model number is a stock AMC designation
[23:52:27] <enleth> FloppyDisk: if I'm lucky, I may be able to get a pair of 423s, which seem to be a perfect fit for the motors in my mill
[23:53:00] <FloppyDisk> I prefer the 423...
[23:54:01] <FloppyDisk> I happened to get my 422 for free, so going w/ those, I miss the 30a peak vs. 20a, but I bet it won't make much difference for me.
[23:55:11] <FloppyDisk> My anilam motors are good to 30amps, but I think the westamp servo amps were either 22amps peak or 30a peak, but no-one seems to know what exactly
[23:55:15] <FloppyDisk> they actually were....
[23:55:37] <FloppyDisk> I posted on cnczone and emc mailing list... Not that it matters that much, but the docs are weak.