#linuxcnc | Logs for 2016-03-14

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[00:40:20] <tiwake> zeeshan: what is that?
[00:40:41] <tiwake> a bracket?
[00:43:22] <tiwake> (that is what you said... heh)
[00:43:28] <tiwake> weird
[01:51:08] <yasnak> I love programming, but hate it too.
[02:34:03] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: jthornton Linux Mint Hacked http://www.zdnet.com/article/has-your-linux-mint-desktop-been-hacked/
[03:02:02] <XXCoder> heh https://youtu.be/8q_hCj5VIvE
[03:02:15] <XXCoder> probably his most boring video, in least early part.
[03:10:43] <archivist> XXCoder, dont know why you watch him, some crap ideas, most sensible makers use a collet and a fixed stop not hand held
[03:11:23] <XXCoder> still quite enjoyable heh
[03:11:29] <XXCoder> expecially his casting videos
[03:12:05] <XXCoder> and yes, his using text on screen to explain stuff makes him better than most channels on machinist
[03:12:21] <XXCoder> no "spring mounted camera" helps a whole lot.,
[03:18:50] <XXCoder> archivist: other fun guy is izzy swan "think woodwork"
[03:18:55] <XXCoder> he makes weird stuff.
[03:21:32] <XXCoder> heh pump car is funny
[03:25:25] <SpeedEvil> Matthias Wandal (woodgears) does some interesting stuff.
[03:25:39] <XXCoder> yep I read his website each weekend
[03:26:22] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp1RK-NPEmM - okaaay
[03:27:00] <XXCoder> I think I saw some of.. yeah I did
[03:27:06] <XXCoder> kinda boring
[03:27:15] <XXCoder> the crapcaptions is very bad
[03:27:35] <XXCoder> "with some rollers here and I have these rockets attached to anything that...
[03:27:38] <XXCoder> okay. :P
[03:28:09] <XXCoder> "this better leader that will turn the entire villages quite quickely and the..."
[03:28:35] <XXCoder> one of myfavorites is NurdRage
[03:29:03] <SpeedEvil> yeah - that wasn't one of his better ones.
[03:29:39] <XXCoder> I wish more people would caption videos.
[03:30:04] <XXCoder> just grab craptions and edit it using couple sites. there is even one registation-free one.
[03:30:35] <XXCoder> http://nomorecraptions.com/
[03:31:25] <XXCoder> http://nomorecraptions.com/go.php?id=qp1RK-NPEmM&edit=True
[03:32:40] <SpeedEvil> quite
[03:32:58] <XXCoder> though people keep thinking it must be word perfect
[03:33:02] <XXCoder> I really dont care
[03:33:17] <SpeedEvil> Can you view the captions in any manner without watching the video easily?
[03:33:19] <XXCoder> I just want it to what guy said, precise word dont matter unless it is techinic word
[03:33:42] <XXCoder> not too sure what you mean
[03:34:06] <SpeedEvil> hmm
[03:34:15] <SpeedEvil> I mean as an alternative to watching videos
[03:34:22] <XXCoder> ahh good question
[03:34:36] <XXCoder> that craptions allows you to download captions (normally not allowed)
[03:34:39] <SpeedEvil> Hmm - I guess you can download th text
[03:34:45] <XXCoder> so you could make client for it
[03:36:08] <Deejay> moin
[03:37:44] <XXCoder> ing
[03:39:06] <Deejay> ^^
[04:02:41] <pink_vampire> hi
[04:02:55] <XXCoder> hey the immortal one
[04:03:05] <pink_vampire> i just start to work on my panel!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:03:54] <pink_vampire> soo fun to work with the ABB terminal blocks
[04:04:21] <Deejay> hi pink
[04:04:35] <pink_vampire> hi Deejay
[04:04:43] <XXCoder> nice
[04:04:47] <XXCoder> cant waoit to see it completed.
[04:05:11] <pink_vampire> one sec I will take a pic
[04:11:56] <pink_vampire> upload sooo sloooow
[04:12:18] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/V2w7RZi.png
[04:12:24] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: ^
[04:12:41] <XXCoder> interesting
[04:13:11] <pink_vampire> hehe thanks.
[04:14:10] <pink_vampire> from each servo motor come 12 wires that go to each section of terminal blocks.
[04:14:58] <pink_vampire> servo driver*
[04:22:58] <Deejay> yay, nice
[04:23:04] <Deejay> different colours :)
[04:23:25] <pink_vampire> yes..
[04:23:43] <pink_vampire> i have 5 voltages..
[04:24:16] <Deejay> i see
[04:24:57] <pink_vampire> I will need to replace the blue ones with red (5V)
[04:25:21] <pink_vampire> but I didn't get the whole stuff yet.
[04:32:03] <Deejay> :)
[04:32:32] <XXCoder> lol fun virus https://archive.org/details/malware_LSD.COM
[04:32:46] <XXCoder> it wont hurt your computer, its running in dosbox because its very old
[04:34:40] <pink_vampire> 12+12+7 labels left :(
[04:35:21] <pink_vampire> 12+12+6 labels left :(
[04:38:23] <pink_vampire> sooo boring
[04:38:50] <Deejay> [09:38] <pink_vampire> soo fun to work with the ABB terminal blocks
[04:38:55] <Deejay> i thought you like it :/
[04:39:00] <Deejay> now its boring...
[04:39:19] <XXCoder> I guess its labels thats boring
[04:39:55] <pink_vampire> i'm scraping each terminal marker from the extra plastics chips the left from the sheet
[04:40:07] <Deejay> hehe
[04:40:41] <pink_vampire> so I'm taking a knife and go and clean each one.
[04:40:58] <Deejay> oh
[04:41:17] <pink_vampire> ODC
[04:41:57] <pink_vampire> OCD**
[05:37:40] <XXCoder> interesting engine design https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c19kn3drdFU
[05:38:24] <bobo_> zlog
[05:38:46] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: it's basically radial engine
[05:38:46] <bobo_> zlog:
[05:38:54] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: not quite
[05:38:54] <pink_vampire> ?
[05:39:20] <XXCoder> timing is very different, it has 5 cyls and 3 spark plugs
[05:39:33] <pink_vampire> ok....
[05:39:42] <XXCoder> archivist: check out link
[05:40:10] <XXCoder> it apparently sparks each time it comes up, which in typical engine it moves up twice per spark
[05:40:18] <XXCoder> since it has to clear out burnt air
[05:40:47] <pink_vampire> I like electric
[05:40:52] <XXCoder> me too
[05:41:59] <pink_vampire> solid state motor
[05:42:27] <XXCoder> thats paradox - no moving parts engine that moves stuff
[05:42:37] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFZsH62ewYo
[05:43:23] <XXCoder> air pressure engine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrnul6ixX90
[05:43:32] <XXCoder> too bad it never went anywhere, like stirling
[05:45:23] <pink_vampire> i like testa
[05:45:31] <XXCoder> yeah
[05:45:36] <pink_vampire> tesla**
[05:46:44] <pink_vampire> do you think it's safe to use mist at home?
[05:47:00] <XXCoder> coolant mist?
[05:47:11] <XXCoder> what is it composed of?
[05:47:25] <pink_vampire> yes
[05:47:50] <pink_vampire> i know it's air + some coolant
[05:48:06] <XXCoder> I heard coolant (typical whitish type) can cause little bit depression and slightly depressed immune system
[05:48:21] <XXCoder> besides that I guess its fine as long as you dont literally drink it.
[05:48:42] <XXCoder> I have used wd-40 though lol (aluminium, harder metal probably gets hot enough to burn wd40?)
[05:49:03] <XXCoder> if wd-40, dont get pressured can, cheap buy bulk wd-40 and use sprayer
[05:49:08] <pink_vampire> I've got some flames from WD40
[05:49:09] <archivist> erm wobble plate is not new
[05:49:21] <XXCoder> yeah? it was to me lol
[05:49:24] <pink_vampire> so I'm using slow speed and cutting oil
[05:51:11] <archivist> XXCoder, the sliding valve face is where it will have problems as did all the earlier
[05:52:43] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYlP5TEKf2w
[05:53:08] <pink_vampire> cocaine?
[05:53:09] <XXCoder> oh it was out. link on previous video didnt work
[05:53:49] <XXCoder> one way valve for liquids interesting
[05:54:30] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: did you make something with your cnc?
[05:54:37] <XXCoder> sigh not yet
[05:57:17] <yasnak> yay, mondays
[05:58:00] <XXCoder> heh guy made TINY one
[05:58:13] <pink_vampire> yasnak: for me every day it's the same
[05:58:41] <pink_vampire> 14+5 left :(
[05:58:47] <yasnak> lol
[05:59:06] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: cocaine is a drug - "nose candy"
[05:59:12] <XXCoder> illegal of course,.
[05:59:17] <pink_vampire> ok
[05:59:30] <pink_vampire> It was in the comments
[06:00:06] <XXCoder> yeah saw it
[06:00:55] <XXCoder> I heard in few place it is cheaper to make power from house water than actual power
[06:00:57] <pink_vampire> my hands soo pain
[06:01:09] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kWQIOpx2vE check this out pink_vampire
[06:01:15] <pink_vampire> solar
[06:01:27] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: not when in apts
[06:01:55] <pink_vampire> nuclear
[06:01:58] <XXCoder> heh that guy failed to perfectly seal box (besides normal turine exit)
[06:04:03] <XXCoder> that looks fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50k4ocVY76Q
[06:04:37] <XXCoder> the inlets is slowing it down slightly
[06:04:43] <XXCoder> I would build a flush inlets
[06:04:45] <pink_vampire> way
[06:04:51] <pink_vampire> just way
[06:05:37] <XXCoder> I want to place a toy boat :P
[06:06:46] <pink_vampire> lol
[06:06:54] <pink_vampire> 14+1 left :(
[06:07:17] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF92B6Gon3M
[06:09:57] <pink_vampire> FUCK!
[06:10:24] <pink_vampire> that was scary!!
[06:10:41] <XXCoder> the coanda effect?
[06:10:56] <pink_vampire> no
[06:11:06] <XXCoder> I wonder if that effect can be abused for replacement of ceiling fan
[06:11:12] <XXCoder> no blades accessable
[06:11:19] <XXCoder> and lights inside that shaped fone
[06:11:20] <pink_vampire> my (upgraded) bug zapper
[06:11:21] <XXCoder> dome
[06:12:13] <XXCoder> kickstart it, if huge hit, buy me a good cnc mill
[06:12:18] <XXCoder> or hurco one whatever
[06:12:39] <pink_vampire> just very big capacitor
[06:12:45] <pink_vampire> and 2000V
[06:12:56] <XXCoder> heh free cooked bugs
[06:13:27] <pink_vampire> the just explode / vaporized
[06:13:37] <pink_vampire> they*
[06:13:40] <XXCoder> cooked humans yummy
[06:14:13] <XXCoder> ouch. just watched "crazy whirlpool swimmer" youtube video. its his last since his next attempt he was killed.
[06:14:16] <pink_vampire> we have very big insects here
[06:14:42] <pink_vampire> so the normal zapper dont do anything to them..
[06:14:51] <pink_vampire> but now..
[06:16:20] <pink_vampire> just 14 left!!
[06:22:44] <SpeedEvil> pink_vampire: neat
[06:22:45] <SpeedEvil> pink_vampire: now do one that does seagulls.
[06:23:15] <XXCoder> just put up anti-land "hair"
[06:23:59] <pink_vampire> seagulls are cute
[06:24:13] <jdh> not if you live where there are seagulls
[06:24:14] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: there is eason we call em sky rats
[06:24:25] <XXCoder> or sometimes flying rats
[06:24:42] <pink_vampire> why??
[06:24:52] <XXCoder> they poop everywhere
[06:25:00] <XXCoder> and make mess with trash
[06:26:25] <pink_vampire> but it's a bird
[06:26:33] <XXCoder> yeah flying rat
[06:26:36] <pink_vampire> and bits are cut
[06:27:33] <pink_vampire> birds*
[06:27:49] <pink_vampire> long nails + cts
[06:28:04] <XXCoder> LOL https://youtu.be/Ujwod-vqyqA?t=630 look at skateboard.
[06:28:48] <pink_vampire> cool
[06:29:12] <XXCoder> that trick is basically impossible
[06:29:24] <XXCoder> think guy did it by accient and just rode it out
[06:30:42] <pink_vampire> this is why women live longer
[06:30:48] <XXCoder> trust me
[06:31:00] <XXCoder> there is bunch of women doing stupid stuff in video.
[06:33:17] <pink_vampire> 15:10
[06:33:21] <pink_vampire> like me
[06:33:35] <jdh> there are thousands of videos of women doing stupid stuff
[06:33:38] <jdh> not sure why, but...
[06:34:02] <XXCoder> Im not sure what those guys was thinking.
[06:34:03] <_methods> yeah porn wouldn't be very good without them
[06:34:14] <pink_vampire> omg
[06:34:23] <XXCoder> like guy jumping from strong roof to thin reed type roof.
[06:34:37] <XXCoder> the "might break" never come up
[06:35:32] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: 15:10
[06:35:42] <XXCoder> yeah saw it
[06:35:46] <XXCoder> cycling inside jeez
[06:36:40] <pink_vampire> the cards
[06:39:22] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vesVlCGoJAM
[06:40:16] <XXCoder> jeez for a second I thought it was some animal in machine
[06:41:40] <XXCoder> heh some machines hasn no safety
[06:41:52] <XXCoder> more like most of em
[06:43:33] <pink_vampire> yeah..
[06:48:34] <pink_vampire> 3 more to go!
[06:49:10] <XXCoder> early device heh https://youtu.be/eIpoA7Ir9p8
[06:49:36] <XXCoder> 8.5k. HUGE space lol
[06:51:47] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdT1YT9AOPA
[06:52:49] <XXCoder> not surpised
[06:53:06] <XXCoder> someone dupicated 2.500 years old computer in lego
[06:53:11] <XXCoder> 2,5000
[06:53:23] <XXCoder> I cant type numbers apparently.
[06:54:01] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACzmGRwS7as
[06:56:43] <XXCoder> actually its 2,000 years old but yeah.
[06:57:07] <XXCoder> people always thought it was simple mechinism till they xrayed machine
[06:57:10] <XXCoder> and figured gears
[07:01:28] <pink_vampire> what is the background music on the lego video??
[07:01:43] <pink_vampire> and I'm done with the markers!
[07:01:58] <pink_vampire> it's look soo cuuuteeee
[07:02:07] <XXCoder> no idea. it sounds same to me, same as all other videos and reality outside. perfect silence
[07:02:59] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfb8dI-itN8
[07:03:09] <pink_vampire> read the first comment!!
[07:03:41] <XXCoder> heh
[07:10:36] <XXCoder> lol, http://www.mentalfloss.com/article/77059/new-blockhead-plug-makes-your-macbook-adapter-fit-anywhere
[07:10:46] <XXCoder> always thought that apple plug design was stupid
[07:11:19] <ReadError> the magnetic plug is awesome
[07:11:25] <ReadError> i wish i could buy them for some other projects
[07:12:26] <pink_vampire> ReadError: i have a macbook pro with magnetic connector, and also cnc machine that make metal chips
[07:13:56] <pink_vampire> I need to trim the jumpers.
[07:15:48] <pink_vampire> http://new.abb.com/products/1SNK906304R0000/jb6-4-jumper-bar-orange
[07:16:15] <ReadError> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-WSKEN-Magnetic-2A-Micro-USB-Charger-Data-Cable-For-Samsung-LG-HUAWEI-Google-Moto-HTC/32609100991.html
[07:16:27] <pink_vampire> so I have one with 3 pins and I need to trim the middle one
[07:16:32] <ReadError> probably the closest thing
[07:16:45] <ReadError> pink_vampire i dont want them for CNC use though
[07:17:18] <pink_vampire> I dont want the chips in my computer..
[07:17:24] <Loetmichel> hmmm... CNC machine a bit too small? put the workpiece on diagonally... (worpiece is 600mm, machine can only 576 in x...) -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16179&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
[07:19:21] <pink_vampire> Loetmichel: nice trick
[07:20:09] <pink_vampire> Loetmichel: what metal is that?
[07:20:37] <Loetmichel> aluminium 1,5mm thick
[07:20:41] <XXCoder> DANG! http://www.gizmag.com/drone-fuelcell-batteries-postech/42222/
[07:20:51] <Loetmichel> AlMg3
[07:21:14] <pink_vampire> http://www.gizmag.com/go/4542/
[07:21:17] <pink_vampire> http://new.abb.com/products/1SNK906304R0000/jb6-4-jumper-bar-orange
[07:21:18] <pink_vampire> http://new.abb.com/products/1SNK906304R0000/jb6-4-jumper-bar-orange
[07:21:30] <pink_vampire> how to trim it?
[07:24:43] <Loetmichel> trim what?
[07:25:23] <ReadError> https://library.e.abb.com/public/75f1a419aa1a8364c125775a002e60f3/1SNK160029S0201.pdf
[07:25:26] <ReadError> teh manual
[07:26:32] <_methods> reading is a challenge for some people
[07:26:48] <_methods> hopefully that manual has lots of pictures
[07:30:11] <pink_vampire> coool!
[07:31:01] <pink_vampire> thanks ReadError
[07:41:09] <pink_vampire> someone know how to change the page size in powerpoint?
[07:45:29] <Sync_> so far all of the actual fuel cells on the market have basically been scams XXCoder
[07:48:04] <Loetmichel> Sync_, not all
[07:48:22] <Loetmichel> we have some supplier here that makes some for carry on sodiers
[07:49:03] <Loetmichel> 30W continous, size about a shoe carton, alcohol fueled...
[07:49:19] <Loetmichel> ... and a pricetag that you have tio sit down ;)
[07:50:52] <Sync_> well, that's basically a scam
[07:51:24] <Sync_> 30W from a shoe carton, if I carry a shoe carton of lipos, I can power 30W for a long time :D
[07:53:58] <OdinYggd> Surface Pro has a magnetic connector on it too. I think its a clever idea, since if you pick the thing up without unplugging it first the connector can just fall away
[07:54:18] <OdinYggd> Makes a ton of sense to have that capability so the ports on the device don't get damaged
[07:55:24] <_methods> http://www.horizonfuelcell.com/
[07:55:30] <_methods> those guys make some cool fuel cells
[07:55:48] <OdinYggd> Meh.
[07:56:20] <OdinYggd> hydrogen cells rely on infrastructure that doesn't yet exist- and most current hydrogen supplies are stocked by stripping hydrogen from natural gas
[07:56:33] <Loetmichel> Syncyou can power any device up to 8 hours wiothout refill. and then tis anotherm 100gramm alcohol cartridge and you are good to go again.
[07:56:36] <OdinYggd> I've heard of cells that use natural gas directly existing, but these aren't as common
[07:56:48] <Loetmichel> show me a lipo that can beat that energy density in the long run...
[07:57:28] <_methods> the technology will evolve to be more civilian friendly
[07:57:53] <_methods> still very much in it's infancy
[07:57:58] <_methods> but well past scam
[07:58:30] <_methods> http://www.hes.sg/
[07:58:57] <_methods> stuff like this will be out of normal civilian grasp for awhile
[07:59:33] <OdinYggd> Huh. The horizon cells are taking methanol
[07:59:50] <OdinYggd> Now we're going in the right direction, using a liquid fuel so that Joe Derp can handle it successfully
[08:00:08] <_methods> you are not the target consumer
[08:00:41] <_methods> one day you will be
[08:00:45] <OdinYggd> Not yet at least, but seeing them reaching that kind of market shows the tech has actually reached a point where it is commercially viable to replace some battery tech
[08:01:02] <_methods> it has been for awhile
[08:01:13] <_methods> just not on your pay scale lol
[08:01:38] <_methods> like Loetmichel was saying you wouldn't like the price tag at all
[08:02:34] <Sync_> the campervan cells have taken methanol forever
[08:03:03] <Loetmichel> OdinYggd: the mil cells are using methanol, too... because "idiot proof" << "Soldier-handling safe"
[08:03:06] <Loetmichel> :-)
[08:03:28] <OdinYggd> lol
[08:03:34] <OdinYggd> Its comparable to gasoline at least
[08:03:44] <Loetmichel> you dont want to have people who need the manuals in comic form to handle Hydrogen cans ;)
[08:04:20] <OdinYggd> Whereas hydrogen is such a little snot to deal with. Can't keep it in a bottle cause it escapes through the walls, has to be at either high pressure or cryogenic temperatures to get energy density. Hella explosive in air..
[08:04:41] <Loetmichel> right ;)
[08:04:44] <OdinYggd> It just isn't suitable for large scale infrastructure the way gasoline is used
[08:40:00] <lair82> pcw_home, when you get a chance, can you look these screenshots of my bios settings, in regards the mill that I keep getting RT faults on, to to make sure I am on the right page. Here is a link to the folder, https://app.box.com/s/0h1k2fvj6bnehua3yw8fa04aant1r6b8
[09:19:21] <mk0> is it possible to change direction in truetype-tracer?
[09:19:43] <cradek> what do you mean?
[09:21:59] <mk0> direction of movent of a tool
[09:22:04] <mk0> movement'
[09:22:31] <cradek> not without extensive modification. it just follows the directions in the font.
[09:23:18] <mk0> and starting point?
[09:23:44] <cradek> yep
[09:24:05] <mk0> thanks!
[09:30:03] <mk0> is it possible to use G91?
[09:30:08] <mk0> in еее
[09:30:10] <mk0> ttt
[09:30:47] <archivist> edit the produced file
[09:32:30] <mk0> how? if it is initially was for G90 just inserting G91 won't go
[09:37:27] <cradek> what problem are you having that you are trying to solve?
[09:40:17] <mk0> i need to cut letters from foam
[09:41:13] <Loetmichel> mk0: how big?
[09:41:26] <mk0> about 50mm
[09:41:27] <Loetmichel> and soft or hard foam?
[09:42:07] <archivist> hot wire cutter?
[09:42:19] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/V2w7RZi.png http://i.imgur.com/y0E0xmJ.png http://i.imgur.com/EdT4tf8.png
[09:43:04] <mk0> you mean Styrofoam
[09:44:02] <mk0> yep, hot wire (NiCr)
[09:47:36] <pink_vampire> i did 5 labels, about 500 to go :(
[09:50:49] <pink_vampire> happy PI day!
[09:51:32] <mk0> ))
[09:53:53] <pink_vampire> :(
[09:53:59] <pink_vampire> :) *
[09:55:42] <pink_vampire> I'm waiting now for the towel day
[09:55:47] <pink_vampire> 25/5
[09:58:49] <pink_vampire> is there a symbol for encoder?
[10:01:15] <pcw_home> lair82: only obvious thing I see is should disable all C states ((including C1E)
[10:01:16] <pcw_home> also you have only one processor core enabled ( you should enable both)
[10:44:47] <lair82> pcw_home Ok, I will go make those changes, and see how it looks tomorrow morning. It has been sitting there with Linuxcnc up since friday, and I ran the halcmd pin time , and it came back still right around 400k, but the param tmax command showed that some time over the weekend, it peaked at 2500k, but there was no RT fault.
[10:45:40] <pcw_home> 2500k would still make it at 1 KHz
[10:46:03] <pcw_home> but should still be fixed
[10:46:45] <pcw_home> (3200k would be 1 ms)
[10:50:23] <lair82> Who did you say had a trick to make that "sudo ethtool -C ethN rx-usecs 0" command always be enforced, I noticed I would have to re-run that every time I re-started the PC.
[10:51:38] <Sync_> just put it into your rc.local
[10:51:48] <pcw_home> mozmck figured out a clean way (you could add a startup script but I thing the network mangler has a way to tweak drivers)
[10:52:17] <pcw_home> s/thing/think/
[11:22:04] <yasnak> well
[11:22:08] <yasnak> haven't killed anyone. yet.
[11:23:26] <yasnak> Kennametal rep comes in, tells me he will get all my tooling @ 50% off list price from now on. I mean cool, but I feel so ripped off from the last ten years... :/
[11:23:49] <Sync_> huh
[11:23:59] <Sync_> why did you not get that from the beginning?
[11:24:16] <Sync_> almost all tool suppliers will give you something like 30% when you open an acct with them
[11:31:12] <CaptHindsight> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/14/technology/modeled-after-ants-teams-of-tiny-robots-can-move-2-ton-car.html?_r=0
[11:37:40] <gregcnc> new repo tech?
[11:37:46] <enleth> yasnak: does that include spare machine parts?
[11:39:15] <enleth> I think they're the only ones making spare QC30 locknuts, it would be nice to know if they discount those too for registered customers
[11:43:17] <OdinYggd> Naw gregcnc. There's a set of low profile robots that can clamp on to a car's wheels, pick it up, and move it wherever like a set of machine dollys
[11:43:41] <OdinYggd> Those are what the repoman will use, cause he can put your car into a blind alley where you aren't getting it out without the bots that put it there
[11:43:44] <OdinYggd> Or a cutting torch
[11:49:28] <Sync_> just drag it out
[11:50:36] <cradek> dish soap
[11:50:53] <_methods> hehe
[11:51:43] <tiwake> https://privacysos.org/blog/fbi-will-now-be-able-to-search-through-nsa-intercept-data/
[11:51:46] <enleth> at my university, we used to put the dean's car between two concrete flower pots or trees from time to time. he drove a Mini-sized car so a bunch of students could just pick it up
[11:52:48] <enleth> then another group would "rescue" his car when he showed up at the end of the day
[11:55:21] <Sync_> we did that with our head teachers volvo once
[11:55:28] <Sync_> but we used gojacks
[13:24:28] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QXSJ7dprzf4#t=107 - related.
[13:24:36] <SpeedEvil> teeny car moving robots.
[13:24:51] <OdinYggd> A minute of Pi for the east coast US. 3.14159
[13:28:06] <CaptHindsight> happy 22/7ths day?
[13:29:07] <maxcnc> hi all from a sunny sunset out of germany
[13:29:59] <SpeedEvil> hi
[13:30:56] <maxcnc> ;-)
[13:31:30] <CaptHindsight> where is the skipped hour kept until fall?
[13:31:50] <maxcnc> in holiday
[13:32:17] <maxcnc> here work closes at 7pm and shop at 8pm
[13:43:20] <CaptHindsight> but I want 3D pancakes not those flat things http://www.3ders.org/articles/20160309-the-pancakebot-is-finally-market-ready-and-can-3d-print-a-pancake-of-your-face.html
[13:44:01] <CaptHindsight> I want to eat a 6" tall Eiffel Tower made of batter!
[13:49:45] <pink_vampire> why it is soooo complicated to peel all the sticker labels
[13:53:20] <maxcnc> CaptHindsight: butter will be the oposit you need to head and cool
[13:55:12] <pink_vampire> it's a laminated labels with double sided tape reinforced with fiberglass
[13:56:19] <FinboySlick> SpeedEvil: I don't imagine it would go too well on a gravel parking lot ;)
[13:57:44] <SpeedEvil> FinboySlick: naah - that's the problem with those sort of wheels
[13:57:49] <SpeedEvil> smooth surfaces only
[13:58:04] <SpeedEvil> - for lateral movement anyway
[14:05:57] <CaptHindsight> and where are the 3D waffles I was promised? slackers!
[14:11:47] <maxcnc> waffels are better on iren plates
[14:12:30] <maxcnc> iron
[14:12:30] <maxcnc> ok im off GN8
[14:25:21] <_methods> waffles on iron crosses
[14:25:31] <_methods> nazi waffles
[14:27:40] <_methods> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LicptUy9Ay4
[14:27:50] <_methods> CaptHindsight: there's your waffles
[14:30:07] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/wOScMlK.jpg
[14:34:15] <pink_vampire> what do you think about the labels?
[14:35:39] <CaptHindsight> _methods: Make America Great Like 1930's Germany, what could go wrong?
[14:35:55] <_methods> trump waffles
[14:36:02] <_methods> in honor of the 3rd reich
[14:37:44] <CaptHindsight> have you read "Meine Kunst des Deals"?
[14:38:05] <_methods> hahah
[14:38:08] <_methods> no
[14:38:20] <_methods> i was going to watch the movie
[14:38:43] <CaptHindsight> I should make t-shirts
[14:40:13] <_methods> i know someone that can help you make good deals
[14:40:26] <_methods> you just have to go to his university
[14:40:37] <_methods> i hear they teach you how to make stickers there
[14:41:04] <CaptHindsight> what period are they referring to when they say they want to go back and make America great again? 1880-1900, 1850's, 1946-1963?
[14:41:21] <_methods> 1492
[14:41:42] <CaptHindsight> start fresh again, sure
[14:41:49] <_methods> rewind
[14:42:49] <CaptHindsight> when men were men, and women were possessions
[14:43:37] <cradek> CaptHindsight: oh not all men were men
[14:44:04] <CaptHindsight> well dancin was dancin
[14:44:08] <_methods> hahah
[14:45:41] <CaptHindsight> <-- filled full of fake outrage today
[14:46:32] <_methods> lack of waffle national monuments will do that
[14:52:25] <_methods> i see palin's husband was injured in a snow machine accident
[14:52:53] <_methods> does that mean he finally realized he was married to that insane lady and tried to end his life by shoving his head in a snow blower?
[14:53:42] <FinboySlick> _methods: You may be on to something with Palin... What if Trump is a futile attempt to make us think she isn't so bad?
[14:56:05] <_methods> either that or trump was trying to get her out of his hair and had her husband thrown in the snow blower
[14:56:53] <_methods> see what i did there
[14:56:58] <_methods> trump, hair
[14:57:16] <Tom_itx> har har
[14:57:28] <CaptHindsight> speaking of cellphones...
[14:58:00] <pink_vampire> 18 stickers left :)
[14:58:34] <CaptHindsight> whats the most open android currently available? if you don't mind building your own kernel and android
[14:58:43] <CaptHindsight> all the drivers should be there
[14:58:47] <_methods> phone wise?
[14:58:58] <CaptHindsight> yeah, a phone vs tablet
[14:59:01] <_methods> on a carrier?
[14:59:06] <pink_vampire> ubuntu one
[14:59:07] <_methods> or no connection to carrier?
[14:59:08] <tiwake> meh
[14:59:22] <CaptHindsight> it doesn't need all open drivers
[14:59:28] <tiwake> using sailfishOS myself
[14:59:37] <_methods> is this going to connect to a network?
[14:59:56] <CaptHindsight> yes with a GSM modem and wifi
[15:00:06] <pink_vampire> openmoko
[15:00:09] <_methods> i know for verizon right now the nexus 6 and galaxy s5 are the only current models that have unlocked/unlockable bootloaders
[15:00:27] <tiwake> I have the nexus5
[15:00:30] <_methods> AT&T is particularly nasty about locking bootloaders also
[15:01:09] <pink_vampire> there is a new board with camera and 3.5G gsm board for the open moko
[15:01:11] <_methods> you'll need a phone with an unlockable bootloader to get full access
[15:01:28] <CaptHindsight> the only reason I got a nexus 4 was that I just wanted it to work
[15:01:46] <pink_vampire> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko
[15:01:49] <_methods> yeah i just bought a nexus6 friday
[15:01:55] <CaptHindsight> no such luck, had to exchange it and it's gotten unstable again with updates
[15:01:58] <_methods> i have galaxy s4 now
[15:02:01] <tiwake> intex is going to start shipping cellphones with SailfishOS on it very soon... *shrug*
[15:02:06] <pink_vampire> jump to Golden Delicious GTA04 board
[15:02:36] <tiwake> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_Fish
[15:02:37] <pink_vampire> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA04
[15:02:38] <_methods> tmobile seems to be the best about unlocked bootloaders
[15:02:45] <CaptHindsight> GTA04 is kind of clunky
[15:03:36] <CaptHindsight> and I tired pf every Google app spying on me
[15:03:42] <_methods> CaptHindsight: just check xda and make sure that the bootloader will unlock for your carrier
[15:03:55] <_methods> and the phone
[15:04:03] <tiwake> seriously, get the Aqua Fish cellphone by intex
[15:04:44] <CaptHindsight> they can't seem to get the firmware stable for the data side of GSM
[15:05:23] <CaptHindsight> phone has to be rebooted or brought in and out of Airlane mode to get data to connect
[15:05:41] <CaptHindsight> or it's apps fighting for control of the modem
[15:05:44] <_methods> CaptHindsight: what carrier is this for?
[15:05:46] <Sync_> I'd say every nexus device would be the best way to go
[15:05:50] <pink_vampire> CaptHindsight: I have here open moko from the first batch
[15:06:00] <Sync_> as you can build your own aosp or whatever pretty easy for them
[15:06:22] <CaptHindsight> pink_vampire: I'm familiar. I even offered to design their new boards for them
[15:07:49] <CaptHindsight> _methods: I've never seen a carried deny some device that was unlocked and had a working SIM
[15:08:10] <tiwake> almost got an openmoko/neofreerunner back then, got the nokia N900 instead. If I were to buy a cellphone in the next couple months I'd wait for the intex Aqua Fish cellphone to come out
[15:08:24] <_methods> i'm not saying they'll deny the device
[15:08:40] <_methods> i'm saying some of them have locked bootloaders and you won't be able to add whatever rom you want
[15:08:48] <_methods> or compile your own
[15:08:52] <CaptHindsight> _methods: that I get
[15:08:55] <CaptHindsight> sure
[15:09:24] <_methods> and each carrier has diff policies on unlocking the bootloaders
[15:09:32] <CaptHindsight> yeah, it has to have an unlocked bootloader
[15:09:32] <_methods> at&T and verizon being the 2 worst
[15:09:53] <CaptHindsight> if you buy from the carrier vs overseas
[15:09:57] <Sync_> holy shit it is outdated for a phone not released _methods
[15:10:09] <_methods> ?
[15:10:16] <tiwake> you mean tiwake?
[15:10:28] <Sync_> yes
[15:10:29] <Sync_> :D
[15:10:36] <tiwake> Sync_: the Aqua Fish?
[15:10:43] <Sync_> yes
[15:11:07] <tiwake> Sync_: honestly, I don't care about hardware :P what good is the hardware if the software is really dumb?
[15:11:42] <Sync_> yes, but sailfish is no good at all
[15:11:43] <tiwake> dumb as in it decides what I want, not letting me decide what I want
[15:11:47] <CaptHindsight> or maybe an old Droid-2 with fill qwerty
[15:11:57] <CaptHindsight> and build linux and android
[15:12:04] <tiwake> why is sailfishOS no good?
[15:12:32] <pink_vampire> CaptHindsight: cool
[15:13:08] <cradek> CaptHindsight: I bought one of these and love it: http://www.ebay.com/itm/231706858131
[15:13:27] <SpeedEvil> Sailfish is unfortunately stalling.
[15:13:37] <SpeedEvil> It's the closest thing to an open phone there is now.
[15:13:39] <pink_vampire> what about iphone?
[15:13:46] <cradek> (I had to downgrade it to the stable cyanogen version to get voip/sip to work)
[15:13:46] <tiwake> screw iOS
[15:13:49] <SpeedEvil> But the hardware is aging rapidly.
[15:13:59] <Sync_> the development seems to be stalled and it has annoying bugs
[15:14:10] <_methods> iphone lol
[15:14:24] <SpeedEvil> Sync_: funding alas. :/
[15:14:37] <tiwake> well, the company (jolla) is kinda recovering from money issues last year
[15:14:37] <CaptHindsight> have a droid4 but it still only works with Verizon in the USA
[15:14:38] <_methods> iphones are good for old people
[15:14:55] <tiwake> _methods: not really
[15:14:58] <_methods> haha
[15:15:03] <_methods> yeah theyre not good for anyone
[15:15:11] <_methods> but old people seem to like them
[15:15:21] <_methods> like the jitterbug
[15:15:27] <SpeedEvil> tiwake: they still have a large number of tablet refunds to process - I don't think they're recovering as such as struggling.
[15:15:41] <SpeedEvil> tiwake: I'd prefer my tablet not a refund, but that's not looking likely
[15:16:15] <tiwake> SpeedEvil: same for me, but w/e, stuff happens
[15:16:15] <Sync_> _methods: ux wise I'd always go for an iphone
[15:16:31] <_methods> stock android
[15:16:34] <_methods> aosp all the way
[15:16:35] <pink_vampire> firefox os
[15:16:42] <pink_vampire> sooo cute
[15:16:53] <tiwake> iOS has a lot of magic gestures that you will never know unless you look up... a good UI you don't have to look up how to do simple tasks like switch between windows (or whatever)
[15:17:24] <_methods> yeah i'm not getting into this fight
[15:17:34] <_methods> but suffice it to say i hate all apple products
[15:17:44] <tiwake> ^
[15:17:53] <tiwake> well, their laptops didnt use to suck
[15:17:57] <tiwake> but they suck now
[15:18:03] <tiwake> and are still just as expensive
[15:18:07] <tiwake> lol
[15:18:35] <_methods> < _methods> but suffice it to say i hate all apple products
[15:18:41] <_methods> hehe
[15:19:01] <tiwake> _methods: I was trying to think of something...
[15:19:08] <tiwake> but failed
[15:19:08] <_methods> i just have blind hatred
[15:19:14] <Sync_> kek
[15:19:42] <_methods> i'm like a trump supporter
[15:19:55] <_methods> but instead of liking trump i hate apple
[15:20:14] <tiwake> heh
[15:20:18] <_methods> this whole encryption fight though
[15:20:26] <_methods> i actually did say a nice thing about apple
[15:20:37] <_methods> i was very happy that they aren't just caving in
[15:20:42] <_methods> at least in public
[15:21:00] <_methods> i'm sure there are NSA agents getting whatever they want from apple behind the scenes
[15:21:11] <_methods> but at least they are making a good show of this in public
[15:21:32] <tiwake> SpeedEvil: donno... when I bought my nokia N900 I thought I would get long term support because nokia is a huge company... turns out they fired all the software devs because microsoft bought half of nokia... so I'll take my chances with a cellphone running SailfishOS
[15:21:55] <_methods> do you still have your n900?
[15:22:07] <tiwake> yeah
[15:22:17] <_methods> i think wifi hackers loved those things
[15:22:26] <_methods> seems like it had 2 nics or something
[15:22:35] <_methods> so you could sniff while on a network
[15:22:40] <tiwake> unfortunately my cellphone radio kinda stopped working
[15:23:04] <tiwake> so it would randomly stop working for half a day
[15:23:08] <_methods> heh
[15:23:13] <_methods> well that's not good
[15:23:33] <tiwake> never had my USB thing break though, like most everyone else
[15:32:29] <SpeedEvil> tiwake: yeah. It's not quite as simple as that
[15:32:52] <SpeedEvil> tiwake: there were major indications things were fucked up ~6mo in - well before the microsoft thing
[15:33:09] <SpeedEvil> The native paid store stopped accepting apps
[15:33:24] <tiwake> sure... though I did not know that at the time I bought my N900
[15:33:25] <tiwake> heh
[15:40:40] <yasnak> Our average height on first shift vs second shift is nearly a full foot and a half difference.
[15:41:51] <tiwake> yasnak: well yeah, and I bet once again for graveyard shift... where everyone is a night lurking hunchback...
[15:42:05] <tiwake> :3
[15:42:24] <XXCoder> lol supporter or not this is damn funny and well done gif https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7abkti7UphSopcl2/giphy.gif
[15:45:43] <Jymmm> XXCoder: Wait, he's still standing at the end. How's that funny?
[15:46:06] <XXCoder> all humor has tragic aspects. thats what makes it funny.
[15:46:14] <CaptHindsight> yasnak: makes sense since the first shift probably gets more sun
[15:46:24] <Jymmm> XXCoder: Right, but WHERE'S THE TRAGEDY???
[15:46:24] <_methods> and i'm pretty sure "well done" doesn't describe that gif
[15:46:48] <Jymmm> XXCoder: There's no blood or guts or anything???
[15:46:55] <XXCoder> lol
[15:46:58] <_methods> unless a 2nd grader made it
[15:47:19] <XXCoder> _methods: Bernie has nonecludian chair
[15:47:37] <CaptHindsight> another deciderererer
[15:47:59] <_methods> more nookular options
[15:48:15] <_methods> nookyoolar
[15:48:40] <FinboySlick> Against chiayna?
[15:48:52] <_methods> i forgot there is no Y in there
[15:48:55] <_methods> nookoolar
[15:49:02] <XXCoder> anyway I found source for Bernie, he was showing mr munster again, but did so quickly he scared reporter a little
[15:49:13] <XXCoder> but I cant find source of trump side
[15:49:14] <CaptHindsight> deciderin
[15:49:32] <CaptHindsight> deciderinon
[16:02:22] <pink_vampire> DONE!
[16:02:31] <pink_vampire> 42 labels!
[16:07:34] <CaptHindsight> anyone use Tizen? Samsung Z3 http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_z3-7273.php
[16:15:17] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/H4n5Og5.png
[16:17:23] <CaptHindsight> is this like a Where's Waldo or a What's Different from the other pic?
[16:17:36] <pink_vampire> all the labels done
[16:17:53] <pink_vampire> CaptHindsight: ^
[16:23:00] <tiwake> idiots being idiots
[16:41:38] <yasnak> stupid is what stupid does
[16:43:20] <yasnak> i wish i had unlimited energy. its annoying having so many ideas but not enough time in the day
[16:46:47] <yasnak> Okay, time to come back down to planet earth. Anyways, anyone heard/used a 'form labs' 3d printer? apparently not cheap but not anywhere near top of the line. I guess my boss purchased one for R&D. Wondering if it will even be worthwhile.
[16:48:36] <OdinYggd> If the boss bought it, probably not
[16:48:50] <OdinYggd> They tend to not know what they are looking at, and are unable to recognize quality product
[16:49:03] <OdinYggd> He would tell you different though based on if it makes money or not
[16:51:52] <_methods> ah bummer pete's not here
[16:52:28] <_methods> his suggestions for the welder settings worked good
[16:52:30] <_methods> https://www.dropbox.com/s/dzgwqsvpmj9m0xu/2016-03-14%2017.22.38.jpg?dl=0
[16:52:37] <_methods> well good enough for me that is
[16:53:12] <_methods> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ilmbxkf0846ir0/2016-03-14%2017.23.42.jpg?dl=0
[16:53:17] <_methods> .02" ss304
[16:53:21] <_methods> butt welded
[16:53:54] <Sync_> it's not bad, but you should get your travel speed up
[16:54:02] <Sync_> so your heat input is lower
[16:54:14] <_methods> well for someone that has no clue i'm happy lol
[16:54:34] <_methods> i was having issues with the arc being erratic
[16:54:36] <Sync_> the grey color you see is what you want to avoid
[16:54:48] <pink_vampire> too much heat on the same spot.
[16:54:53] <_methods> i think i had some corrosion on tungsten
[16:55:17] <_methods> it's always good to have input from a welding pro like you pink_vampire
[16:56:05] <pink_vampire> hehe
[16:57:18] <_methods> it's definitely more challenging welding this thin stuff
[16:58:15] <pink_vampire> I need to get a welder
[17:00:28] <pink_vampire> _methods: I'm not a welder but you can see that the metal really deflect and get large oxide spot because the large amount of heat.
[17:00:51] <_methods> really?
[17:01:43] <pink_vampire> O_o :(
[17:02:48] <Sync_> which 304 grade is it?
[17:03:34] <_methods> no idea
[17:04:01] <_methods> just 304
[17:04:24] <_methods> 304 is the grade in the US
[17:04:49] <yasnak> Oh, so my office switch doesn't have battery backup. Cool, good thing Florida has such a reliable power grid
[17:04:50] <_methods> but if you're asking if it's 304L, then no it's not
[17:05:07] <yasnak> I love 304L. I love it almost as much as my exgirlfriend
[17:05:12] <_methods> hahah
[17:05:27] <_methods> i hate 316
[17:05:33] <pink_vampire> also make sure that you apply enough argon.
[17:05:36] <yasnak> Personally I hate them too...
[17:05:37] <Sync_> you should get 304L, what you are getting is carbide percipitation
[17:05:40] <yasnak> The finishes always look shatty
[17:05:54] <yasnak> I love me some heat treated 17-4
[17:05:55] <tiwake> 316 is pretty horrible all around, unless you are using it on a boat
[17:05:58] <_methods> oh damn i didn't think to use argon
[17:06:04] <_methods> that probably would help
[17:06:10] <Sync_> but a lower heat input helps
[17:06:29] <_methods> i had it on 30 amps but i was goin light on the pedal
[17:06:45] <yasnak> Welding or cutting?
[17:06:47] <_methods> i was too lazy to snap off the tungsten and regrind
[17:07:01] <_methods> so the arc was really unstable
[17:07:06] <pink_vampire> make sure the tip is sharp and clean.
[17:07:13] <_methods> oh you're full of wisdom
[17:07:33] <yasnak> Make sure its plugged in
[17:07:37] <_methods> hahah
[17:07:51] <_methods> pink_troll
[17:08:10] <yasnak> Nah, pink_vampire means well. I took a guess on your sarcasm :P
[17:09:06] <pink_vampire> I say what I know..
[17:09:23] <pink_vampire> it is your material..
[17:09:50] <yasnak> Welding isn't my forte. I drink way too much monster energy drinks to roll a bead using our tig. Mig sure
[17:09:53] <Sync_> yasnak: yeah I have to work with a lot of 316l because people spec it for their vacuum chambers
[17:10:20] <Sync_> without no real reason besides that it electropolishes better ime
[17:10:41] <yasnak> You make vac chambers? For what may I ask? :P I need help finding parts for our pre-historic heat treater
[17:11:02] <yasnak> Anything we use usually comes from good old dunway
[17:11:30] <Sync_> semiconductor research
[17:12:09] <yasnak> Do you ever throw random bugs in them just to see what happens?
[17:12:12] <Sync_> I don't really make them, but I do modifications on some we get
[17:12:14] <Sync_> no
[17:12:18] <yasnak> Haha
[17:12:22] <Sync_> because that would cause 3 weeks of downtime
[17:13:50] <yasnak> Christ, ours has been down for six months. Haven't had time to fix. Looks like a bad power supply wire but man this thing is old. We apparently can't justify a new one but instead pay our the price of a new one monthly when outsourcing our heat treating...
[17:14:03] <Sync_> http://sync-hv.de/~tmp/such_bodennebel.jpg
[17:14:16] <Sync_> well, if it is old it can't be complicated
[17:14:33] <_methods> oh nice a time machine
[17:14:54] <yasnak> Ours is so many random parts, with a 'REMANUFACTURED BY ELATEC' plate on it
[17:15:31] <yasnak> Oh dear god, that thing looks sick. Let me get a picture of mine quick
[17:15:35] <_methods> is that lab grade aluminum foil on there hahahah
[17:15:52] <Sync_> yes, it is oil free thick al foil
[17:16:03] <_methods> damn i was just joking
[17:16:24] <_methods> space shuttle grade foil
[17:16:29] <Sync_> nah
[17:16:33] <_methods> heheh
[17:16:37] <Sync_> the usual shits
[17:16:39] <Nick001-shop> <PCW> you around?
[17:16:42] <pink_vampire> also almost none magnetic
[17:17:56] <yasnak> Whatever the foil is
[17:17:58] <_methods> german beer lab
[17:18:00] <yasnak> Its freaking hard
[17:18:03] <_methods> top secret
[17:18:08] <yasnak> and will take your finger off
[17:18:37] <OdinYggd> Titanium foil
[17:18:41] <OdinYggd> Genuine unobtanium
[17:18:52] <OdinYggd> As for aircraft, its not really tinfoil
[17:19:07] <pink_vampire> I'm lost O_o
[17:19:17] <OdinYggd> Its usually alloy aluminum with full traceability- certified alloy with traceable heat numbers and batch lots.
[17:19:29] <gregcnc> aircraft need certified tinfoil
[17:19:35] <OdinYggd> ^
[17:19:41] <yasnak> Adamantium
[17:19:44] <yasnak> Is where its at
[17:19:51] <OdinYggd> Doesn't exist
[17:19:53] <OdinYggd> And too dense anyway.
[17:19:59] <OdinYggd> Aircraft need metals that are lightweight but strong
[17:20:05] <pink_vampire> gliders use parchment paper.
[17:20:06] <PCW> Nick001-shop: yes
[17:20:08] <OdinYggd> We'd make the whole thing out of titanium if it was cheaper
[17:20:08] <yasnak> How dare you
[17:20:27] <_methods> it's out there somewhere
[17:21:14] <OdinYggd> Does it have a periodic table entry
[17:21:18] <pink_vampire> pizza..
[17:21:37] <OdinYggd> The periodic table was able to predict the properties of different elements before they were actually discovered
[17:21:56] <OdinYggd> So if Adamantium actually exists as a pure element, it would have a periodic table entry that matches its properties
[17:21:57] <yasnak> Uhm yes. Element 0. Hello?
[17:22:00] <yasnak> :P
[17:22:15] <OdinYggd> That would make it an alkalai earth metal and a highly volatile gas
[17:22:20] <OdinYggd> Cause it would be next to Hydrogen
[17:22:32] <yasnak> Pizza is periodically on my table yes
[17:22:38] <andypugh> I want a lump of Hassium.
[17:22:51] <andypugh> It’s predicted to have a density of 40.
[17:23:04] <yasnak> Also known as beer gut?
[17:23:05] <OdinYggd> tbh i kind of want a tube of tritium
[17:23:12] <OdinYggd> Just to leave it on my desk and have it glow in the dark
[17:23:13] <andypugh> I have one
[17:23:20] <andypugh> You can buy them on eBay
[17:23:27] <OdinYggd> Money I don't have
[17:23:33] <OdinYggd> I work hard just to stay in debt
[17:23:38] <yasnak> haha
[17:23:42] <pink_vampire> bismuth is my favorite element
[17:24:16] <andypugh> OdinYggd: Might be cheaper than yiu would ever guess: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GLOWS-NON-STOP-FOR-DECADES-Tritium-Key-Chain-Keyring-Glow-In-The-Dark-PINK-/262314905561?hash=item3d132fcfd9:g:gzoAAOSwo6lWOnRU
[17:24:19] <OdinYggd> I'm partial to Carbon
[17:24:20] <pink_vampire> it's a metal, you can machine it, it's sometime can be pink.
[17:24:24] <OdinYggd> Cause you can get carbon in just about anything
[17:24:50] <andypugh> Ooh, and I accidentally found a Pink one for the Vampire.
[17:25:06] <pink_vampire> it's not healthy.
[17:25:17] <OdinYggd> I got to play with nickel powder once.
[17:25:27] <OdinYggd> Was in a ceramics studio making blue crystal glaze
[17:25:34] <pink_vampire> and bismuth is semi radioactive anyway..
[17:25:42] <yasnak> Sync_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13zT5HyJygY&feature=youtu.be sorry about the rambling commentary, the back shop is quiet and I get scared.
[17:25:52] <OdinYggd> The artist whose formula I was mixing a batch of said when it comes to nickel don't touch don't breathe and don't do anything that would let it get out of its dish
[17:25:58] <OdinYggd> High end carcinogen apparently
[17:26:16] <andypugh> It’s fine, the radioactivity can’t get through the glass. If you break it then the tritium just disperses. It even leaves the atmoshphere completely too.
[17:26:30] <OdinYggd> Uh, no it doesn't
[17:26:34] <pink_vampire> it's a turbomolecular pump?
[17:26:42] <OdinYggd> It just is so rare in the atmosphere that it can't be detected other than right near a source
[17:26:45] <andypugh> Doesn’t what?
[17:26:55] <OdinYggd> tritium doesn't leave the atmosphere
[17:27:01] <OdinYggd> It circulates until it decays
[17:27:12] <andypugh> Hydrogen and Helium have an RMS velocity higher than escape velocity.
[17:27:27] <OdinYggd> RMS?
[17:27:29] <_methods> OH SNAP!! NERD FIGHT
[17:27:34] <andypugh> That’s why they have to mine helium.
[17:27:46] <OdinYggd> Eh.
[17:27:52] <Sync_> root mean square
[17:27:53] <OdinYggd> Not so sure about mining helium
[17:27:59] <andypugh> I am.
[17:28:01] <OdinYggd> I do know that we recover significant amounts from natural gas wells
[17:28:16] <andypugh> Yeah, I count that as mining.
[17:28:23] <_methods> ^^
[17:28:31] <OdinYggd> Most people around here would call that drilling.
[17:28:32] <_methods> point andypugh
[17:28:33] <OdinYggd> Or fracking
[17:28:33] <Sync_> could be worse yasnak, it's not that bad
[17:28:49] <pink_vampire> yasnak: I'm not sure what did you try to show in the video.
[17:28:53] <OdinYggd> That's interesting that hydrogen and helium can reach escape velocity when released into the atmosphere.
[17:29:10] <OdinYggd> First I've heard of that, I would expect upper atmosphere effects to blend them in and keep them stirred up enough to not escape so easily
[17:29:36] <OdinYggd> tritium's half life is short enough on the planetary scale that the tiny amounts produced do not accumulate significantly before breaking down again
[17:29:39] <pink_vampire> OdinYggd: labs have to recycle helium.
[17:29:51] <OdinYggd> Meanwhile TIG welders squirt it out and don't care
[17:29:55] <OdinYggd> Other than the price tag for another bottle
[17:30:03] <OdinYggd> But I knew bulk helium had a bulky price tag
[17:30:47] <Sync_> if you have another gas that has the same effect as helium in the weld, market it ;)
[17:30:47] <yasnak> I can't show much really, ideas tend to spread and we've already been involved in IP cases. :/
[17:31:26] <OdinYggd> Normally I TIG weld using argon
[17:31:38] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZkMQkHGj1s
[17:31:41] <OdinYggd> but I know argon-helium or almost straight helium is used for aluminum and some specialty work
[17:32:10] <Sync_> yasnak: should be easy to fix
[17:32:13] <OdinYggd> Never did understand why tri-mix has 2% oxygen in it
[17:32:23] <_methods> heat
[17:32:29] <OdinYggd> Oh?
[17:32:50] <andypugh> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_escape
[17:32:56] <yasnak> Sync_, when I get around to it I'm going to hit you up. Its not really hard, but finding some of these odds and ends are a little painful
[17:33:24] <yasnak> Not sure if you saw how much putty was on that thing. Shes a bleeder
[17:34:34] <Sync_> if it is not a fault in the power supply, it either is a broken filament or a failed feedthrough
[17:34:40] <Sync_> although those are fairly robust
[17:35:15] <Sync_> also be careful with the filaments, they probably are pure Mo and don't like being handled
[17:35:28] <Sync_> also clean the diff pump if you are in there
[17:35:59] <andypugh> Do folk still use diff pumps? I thought they had been replaced by turbomoleculars?
[17:36:06] <yasnak> lol
[17:36:12] <yasnak> mic drop
[17:36:46] <andypugh> (I came in late, but it sounds like you are talking about X-ray tubes?)
[17:38:13] <Sync_> andypugh: nah, vacuum heat treating oven
[17:38:18] <yasnak> nono, I was handed down some pieced together contraption that is definitely older then myself. Used to be quite futuristic maybe in 1900? Just a 1200 F w/ -2.5 atmosphere vac.
[17:38:58] <Sync_> a lot of metallurgy vacuum stuff still is on diff pumps, for whatever reason
[17:39:02] <Sync_> probably cost and robustness
[17:39:16] <Sync_> although modern CVD capable turbos are also very robust
[17:39:17] <yasnak> Some honeywell controllers I've replaced, I'm not sure if I even have the PLC's software.
[17:39:43] <Sync_> think about getting a small water cooler for it
[17:39:48] <Sync_> it'd fit in it
[17:40:14] <andypugh> Yeah, the vacuum equpment I used to work with had rotary and diff pumps, and super-expensive (£1000 per litre) oil and Penning gauges etc. I was amazed when I took a job as an X-ray tube designer about 20 years later and it was all turbomolecular pumps and the company were even looking to get rid of those and sell sealed-for-life tubes. It works for CRTs after all.
[17:40:20] <Sync_> I mean, what is the actual error? yasnak :D
[17:40:54] <yasnak> It won't heat, its either element or power supply. Just haven't got to it. I've been so slammed in other areas
[17:41:00] <Sync_> oh, maybe you are the right person to ask then andypugh
[17:41:06] <Sync_> are XRD tubes cold cathodes?
[17:41:26] <andypugh> Ours weren’t
[17:41:35] <yasnak> I mean it heats, but pulls max power and can't hold it. So something went
[17:41:35] <OdinYggd> andypugh I would think it depends on the application
[17:41:43] <OdinYggd> a CRT with a speaker magnent will make some X-rays
[17:41:52] <Sync_> that is not the point
[17:42:06] <Sync_> a lot of xray stuff was actively pumped years ago
[17:42:35] <Sync_> http://www.panalytical.com/upload_mm/6/5/9/2017_fullimage_XRD_GlassTube%20435x355.jpg those andypugh
[17:42:38] <OdinYggd> Ah
[17:42:45] <andypugh> Ah, here we are: http://www.nordson.com/en/divisions/dage/products/x-ray-inspection-systems Looks like they have made the switch to sealed tubes. SO you send the tube back for a new filament when you need it.
[17:43:49] <andypugh> Sync_: That could be cold-cathode. The Dage ones are very hard X-ray and rather high power. I calculates that it would take less than a second to get a fatal dose inside the cabinet.
[17:43:52] <Nick001-shop> <PCW> 5125 - W1 & W2 in up position to supply 5v for encoders on the 7177 card?
[17:45:09] <Sync_> ah hmm, they appear to be filament ones
[17:45:20] <Sync_> I guess I'll have to figure out how to power mine
[17:45:39] <Sync_> http://www.recycledgoods.com/media/extendware/ewimageopt/media/inline/100/6/glass-cu-04-x-12-xrd-x-ray-tube-as-is-053.jpg
[17:46:10] <andypugh> Sync_: As I recall we used LaB6 filaments too.
[17:47:53] <yasnak> Lets talk CNC machining so I can be somewhat useful again :P
[17:47:57] <yasnak> I kidd
[17:49:35] <andypugh> Sync_: You are aware that X-ray tubes are horribluy dangerous?
[17:53:19] <Sync_> yes
[17:53:36] <andypugh> Just checking.
[17:54:10] <Sync_> but eh, at lot of it is cooked hotter than it really is
[17:54:13] <andypugh> Any strangely numb limbs or hair loss, you probably want to leave off the experimenting for a few weeks
[17:54:13] <Sync_> at least for my usecase
[17:54:36] <Sync_> haha, I have the proper metrology gear for that not to happen
[17:55:07] <Deejay> gn8
[17:55:08] <OdinYggd> Long as you have good shielding and proper equipments to make sure the shielding is effective, you'll be fine.
[17:55:20] <OdinYggd> Slightly elevated risk of cancer long-term, but that's true for most any line of work
[17:55:37] <CaptHindsight> lead underwear can be a bit uncomfortable
[17:55:41] <Sync_> well, it is an open deck XRD, so you are getting exposed to xrays, no matter what
[17:56:00] <PCW> Nick001-shop: yes 5I25 W2 UP for P3 (DB25) cable 5V ( and 7I77 W5 LEFT)
[17:56:59] <CaptHindsight> hmm no good DIY CT scanner plans
[17:57:37] <andypugh> Sync_: https://youtu.be/qljXevEW2W0?t=27s
[17:58:28] <Nick001-shop> <PCW> what about W1?
[17:59:05] <PCW> Note that for anything other than testing its suggested that you supply external 5V power to the 7I77=
[17:59:07] <PCW> 5I25 W2 down, 7I77 W5 right 5V to 7I77, 5V to TB1
[17:59:39] <Sync_> andypugh: I have a RSO certification
[17:59:58] <PCW> W1 is for P2 ( so = dont-care if you are not using P2)
[18:00:20] <enleth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9jQuW5pqDM - VFD finally works with the bridgeport's original relay logic, I just have to add a 4-20mA potentiometer for speed control on the panel to hide the VFD's panel in the cabinet
[18:01:01] <andypugh> Sync_: In that case I will stop trying to teach you how to suck eggs.
[18:02:10] <andypugh> enleth: Not CNC?
[18:02:23] <Nick001-shop> <PCW> Would a USB connection do the job and leave W1 & W2 down as the card came in?
[18:02:34] <Sync_> I do understand that there is a reason why open XRDs are pretty much illegal now but meh, it is for me at home
[18:03:17] <PCW> USB wont supply enough power especially with 6 encoders
[18:03:45] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Terra-Portable-XRD-System-/201085591056
[18:04:11] <_methods> maybe they don't want you aiming your XRD at your neighbors house for a week because they had the radio playing too loud
[18:04:19] <enleth> andypugh: one more connection and it will work, too
[18:05:09] <Nick001-shop> <PCW> How much power wold be enough - How about off a molex connector supplying a hard drive?
[18:05:25] <CaptHindsight> _methods: heh I once had someone ask me what to do with the shared wall to the divorce attorney next door
[18:05:38] <CaptHindsight> _methods: gave them your idea
[18:05:44] <pink_vampire> quinoa!
[18:05:58] <andypugh> _methods: Spooky, That was exactly what I was going to suggest, in the case of my neighbours and their 3am TV habits. So maybe it is a very reasonable worry.
[18:06:03] <pink_vampire> love it.
[18:06:10] <_methods> hahah
[18:06:31] <pink_vampire> _methods: you don't like quinoa?
[18:06:40] <enleth> andypugh: this machine has a latching relay system to keep the spindle running and keep track of direction, the TNC control and the manual lever are wired, roughly speaking, in parallel
[18:07:14] <CaptHindsight> can you see right through any x-ray salesperson?
[18:07:41] <enleth> andypugh: TNC only has to issue a pulse to start or stop the spindle, and the lever does the same thing - note that it springs back when I turn it to start the spindle
[18:09:39] <CaptHindsight> https://envisioningtheamericandream.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/shoes-fluroscope-x-ray.jpg the good ol days
[18:10:13] <andypugh> Excellent
[18:11:42] <andypugh> Sync_: This might amuse/horify you http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2255288/Holidays-Austria-Sitting-Radhaus-mountain--thats-real-gas.html
[18:12:45] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLX-5-Digital-Dental-X-Ray-Machine-Low-Dose-System-Portable-Mobile-Film-Imaging-/151883620257 $470
[18:14:03] <CaptHindsight> Leak radiation: < 20μgy/h(12lb)
[18:17:13] <pink_vampire> why do you want Xray machine?
[18:17:45] <CaptHindsight> hmm the South Korean vsersion is 10X the price of the Chinese model
[18:20:52] <yasnak> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwkWHvGd24o
[18:20:54] <yasnak> ;o
[18:22:30] <CaptHindsight> Chip-Hersteller Fünftausend?
[18:24:24] <pink_vampire> yasnak: rain
[18:25:23] <pink_vampire> yasnak: it's a 5 axis machine?
[18:26:51] <yasnak> mori, horizontal. tombstones on a rotary bolted to pallet. with auto pallet changer.
[18:27:37] <yasnak> we have 5 axis machines, but whenever i actually make something cool i never record it. probably because after doing it i rush to the next job haha.
[18:27:52] <yasnak> or that i'm obviously bad at recording videos
[18:28:02] <Sync_> andypugh: I already was in that thing
[18:28:17] <Sync_> I'm ~10km away every summer from that thing
[18:28:58] <andypugh> I spent a lot of time caving, we tried to avoid the places with lots of Radon. I can’t believe that they are allowed to market it as being good for you.
[18:29:18] <Sync_> well, in germany a lot of cellars fill with radon
[18:30:02] <Sync_> with some of them having to have outside monitoring or forced ventilation installed
[18:30:41] <Sync_> CaptHindsight: those things are deathtraps
[18:32:52] <andypugh> Sync_: It’s seen as a problem in Cornwall too. They clearly need to think laterally and market their cellars as having unspecified health benefits.
[18:33:03] <pink_vampire> http://9gag.com/gag/a57z18o
[18:36:09] <yasnak> Do people outside the USA just laugh their asses off at our current presidential race? Sorry, off topic. Catching up and finding out that people are doing the Obama birther shit again. I give up on people sometimes.
[18:36:44] <CaptHindsight> Sync_: the mill or the portable cancer causers?
[18:37:15] <andypugh> pink_vampire: It looks like the ketchup dispensers are empty.
[18:37:31] <Sync_> the portable cancer devices CaptHindsight
[18:37:36] <Sync_> heh andypugh
[18:37:45] <andypugh> yasnak: We are watching in horrified fascination.
[18:37:55] <pink_vampire> I want her in my house.
[18:37:59] <yasnak> Pls help us
[18:39:26] <CaptHindsight> yasnak: we live in a nation of stunted abused people
[18:39:33] <andypugh> I kind of want to see Trump win the presidency, and for the UK to leave the EU, just because it will be really _interesting_. Probably terrible too, but interesting.
[18:40:11] <Lowridah> how could the world stand looking at that face another minute
[18:40:25] <Lowridah> i wish i could have any wrinkle in my brain with him on it flattened out post haste
[18:40:40] <yasnak> This is what scares me
[18:40:42] <CaptHindsight> it's like Germany in the several years after 1945
[18:40:58] <yasnak> Everyone believes that backdooring the encryption that secures everything is a good idea
[18:41:05] <yasnak> ARE YOU HIGH?
[18:41:29] <CaptHindsight> how else do you catch the bogieman?
[18:42:18] <Sync_> yasnak: it has always worked, it will always work
[18:42:27] <yasnak> I don't even get how thats not a massive issue, oh right because we're busy worrying about fetus blackmarkets. I'm so lost
[18:43:20] <CaptHindsight> yasnak: they have lost the ability to reason and will actually defend their abusers
[18:43:26] <andypugh> yasnak: Can’t you see that only the good guys would ever want to use the backdoors? Anyway, if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to be scared of.
[18:43:31] <yasnak> No, its called collateral damage. When you go full retard and don't know...thats why we need our guns.
[18:43:58] <Sync_> fetus black markets?!
[18:43:59] <Sync_> wad
[18:44:22] <andypugh> Sync_: Not to be confused with black fetus markets.
[18:44:30] <yasnak> lol
[18:44:43] <yasnak> we joke, but we're all agreeing
[18:45:54] <yasnak> so who is the "majority" that thinks these things are good ideas or actually true (with the fetus thing)? I really worry that our race is doomed, we've reached our plateau.
[18:46:02] <yasnak> ./endrant
[18:46:44] <andypugh> A man on holiday in Egypt goes to the Souk, and is amazed to find that every single stall is selling a desert of spnge caje topped with jelly and cream. He says to his guide “This seems very strange” and the guide replies “Yes, it is a Trifle Bazaar”
[18:46:51] <CaptHindsight> nah we are far from rock bottom
[18:47:21] <Sync_> on another note, andypugh
[18:47:25] <Sync_> spellman are cunts.
[18:47:29] <andypugh> yasnak: The ancient Greeks felt the same way. Every generation thinks that mankind is in a terminal decline.
[18:47:37] <tiwake> rock bottom is fallout-esq
[18:47:52] <yasnak> I'm sorry, my job moved me to Florida.
[18:48:01] <yasnak> I've hit rock bottom
[18:48:07] <andypugh> Sync_: ?
[18:48:19] <Sync_> they want 150$ for a manual for their powersupplies
[18:48:27] <tiwake> but I don't think a fallout like scenario is possible
[18:48:30] <Sync_> while tdk lambda just sends me one
[18:48:32] <andypugh> Yikes!
[18:48:40] <Sync_> with schematics
[18:49:03] <andypugh> Well, you know who to buy from in future then.
[18:49:18] <CaptHindsight> I waiting for elections to be held on facebook
[18:49:31] <tiwake> lol
[18:49:36] <Sync_> they don't do 60kV xray supplies
[18:49:49] <yasnak> I'm voting John MacAfee
[18:50:19] <Lowridah> for legal bath salts?
[18:50:25] <pink_vampire> http://9gag.com/gag/aDobD9K
[18:50:32] <Lowridah> and nutty 20+ year old understandings of hardware crypto
[18:50:35] <tiwake> CaptHindsight: I'm envisioning something like the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, the Vogons
[18:50:40] <yasnak> Lets be for real, a wet noodle would get my vote at this point :P
[18:50:44] <pink_vampire> I'm soo untalented :(
[18:50:46] <CaptHindsight> but they will probably just find an excuse to stop elections by blaming some election mishap on the bogeyman
[18:50:56] <Lowridah> when dude went on the news to say how 'he' could crack the iphone i had to change the channel
[18:51:03] <Lowridah> how anyone takes that dude seriously anymore is beyond me
[18:51:03] <Sync_> training will get you there pink_vampire
[18:51:12] <yasnak> Lowridah, hes somewhat right...
[18:51:21] <Lowridah> every time i see macafee i imagine him and stallman rubbing each other down with olive oil in the dark
[18:51:47] <Sync_> 10/10 would watch
[18:51:48] <Sync_> IGN
[18:51:51] <yasnak> You can crack an iphone, there is ways. Our friends at NSA don't just want one tho, they want their crappy dragnet software to be able to reach everyone :P
[18:51:54] <tiwake> lol
[18:52:14] <Lowridah> no, he's not right at all
[18:52:23] <Lowridah> he's incredible incorrect to think there's some plaintext string in the rom
[18:52:29] <Lowridah> why would you do that?
[18:52:55] <yasnak> Didn't hear that part. Apparently whoever touched the phone first CHANGED THE ICLOUD ACCOUNT.
[18:53:09] <Lowridah> they tried to recover the icloud password
[18:53:19] <yasnak> No, he changed the account
[18:53:24] <yasnak> It wiped everything
[18:53:40] <yasnak> Probably the #1 you'd never want to do
[18:53:54] <yasnak> Apple basically told them, well, you dumb
[18:53:56] <Lowridah> yea actually
[18:54:01] <Lowridah> they tried to reset the password like i said
[18:54:21] <Lowridah> points moot to bring up here i guess
[18:55:02] <CaptHindsight> lots of hubub for a single phone, what do they expect to find out on it? The complete and unabridged terrorist phone book?
[18:55:33] <CaptHindsight> it's a stunt to just get access to more
[18:55:52] <yasnak> Probably the guys pornhub history
[18:56:31] <CaptHindsight> $37 fapdollars
[18:58:04] <Sync_> dunno, I will laugh when trump wins it
[18:58:55] <CaptHindsight> I heard that we will all have to dye our hair orange to show solidarity
[18:59:12] <yasnak> He just said hes going to tax Carrier 35%
[18:59:30] <CaptHindsight> and bogeymen don't have orange hair, so it easy to keep track of who's who
[19:00:10] <yasnak> A man with a deadcat on his head with tourette's.
[19:01:33] <CaptHindsight> tax any company that doesn't pay up when visited by the Orange Shirts
[19:02:25] <CaptHindsight> yah know yah gotta nice factory here, shame if anyting was to happen to it
[19:04:28] <yasnak> All this winning, Charlie Sheen must be so pissed. All he got was rehab
[19:04:42] <CaptHindsight> https://imgflip.com/i/uzso9
[19:05:00] <Sync_> heh yasnak
[19:17:35] <_methods> sheen is running with trump
[19:17:39] <_methods> trump/sheen 2016
[19:17:45] <_methods> it even rhymes
[19:18:10] <yasnak> pretty sure they just wrote an article on how hes the last person sheen wants to win. even charlie isn't that high
[19:18:15] <_methods> which will be a reqmnt for all campaigns from now on
[19:18:48] <yasnak> but there has to be a trump vs sheen video out there, like a 360 no-scope remix. how has this not been made lol
[19:19:11] <CaptHindsight> Trump should have run against Bush in 2000
[19:19:17] <_methods> trump/sheen 2016 ------ WINNING!!!!
[19:19:24] <yasnak> tiger blood
[19:20:09] <_methods> they're saving that video for when he's the rnc candidate
[19:20:38] <yasnak> sheen has hiv, sorta forgot about that
[19:20:51] <CaptHindsight> encryption https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsjZ2r9Ygzw Last Week Tonight with John Oliver
[19:21:07] <yasnak> ooooh, capt. good find
[19:21:45] <CaptHindsight> or in other words Dick Pick Safety
[19:22:10] <_methods> the fbi just wants all of anthony weiners dick pics
[19:23:10] <_methods> tony weiner
[19:23:22] <_methods> or maybe ant weiner
[19:23:37] <yasnak> 2-14 year old boys snapchats go directly to their local catholic church
[19:23:46] <_methods> hahah
[19:23:56] <CaptHindsight> isn't that at Burger King now?
[19:24:40] <_methods> the weiners
[19:24:41] <yasnak> oh my god, capt. thanks for this. this is gold ahah
[19:29:14] <_methods> it's going to be freaking hilarious when hillary gets elected and all those clowns like christie that back trump get politically beheaded
[19:30:12] <yasnak> or i would shit my pants and take a pic for evidence if bernie gets elected. my faith in humanity would temporally restored. ;/
[19:30:19] <_methods> yeah
[19:30:21] <_methods> that aint happening
[19:30:25] <yasnak> ;/
[19:30:28] <_methods> hillary was elected 8 years ago
[19:30:34] <_methods> her coronation will be over soon
[19:31:44] <_methods> she'll have to pardon herself on her first day in office lol
[19:31:49] <yasnak> heh
[19:32:03] <_methods> it's good to be the queen
[19:34:06] <_methods> i wonder if she'll let slick willie stay in the hizzouse
[19:34:08] <yasnak> Let this little rant chatlog go down in history
[19:34:30] <_methods> hahah this is tame
[19:34:37] <_methods> wait till Jymmm shows up
[19:35:32] <yasnak> haha, I don't like to go political. I just hit my daily max of idiot today
[19:36:01] <Sync_> well, just have your bullshit deflector on high
[19:36:08] <_methods> it gets political in here at times but most people keep it civil
[19:36:33] <yasnak> BTW: I'll vote for whoever takes on time change and shitcans it. Longest monday ever
[19:36:46] <_methods> yeah DST is stupid
[19:36:55] <yasnak> Went to Miami beach this weekend, two-day hangover + timechange + monday = heh
[19:37:01] <_methods> i get blinded by the sun driving to work for 4 periods a year
[19:37:05] <_methods> instead of just 2
[19:37:05] * Jymmm pats _methods and hands him a cookie.
[19:37:08] <_methods> thank you DST
[19:37:09] <_methods> hahahh
[19:37:18] <_methods> there goes the neighborhood
[19:38:16] <yasnak> lol
[19:44:13] <Jymmm> _methods: But... what did you mean by that?
[19:44:35] <_methods> ummmm
[19:44:40] <_methods> property values
[19:44:42] <_methods> you know
[19:44:58] <jdh> I like DST
[19:45:00] <Jymmm> No
[19:45:02] <yasnak> Hes flirting
[19:45:03] <jdh> we should keep it.
[19:45:10] <_methods> NO
[19:45:46] <_methods> wtf don't they just split the diff and leave it at that
[19:46:02] <yasnak> I'll build a wall
[19:46:44] <_methods> pretty sure canadians created daylight savings time
[19:46:45] <Jymmm> _methods: Again, wth wee you babbling about?
[19:46:53] <andypugh> We should use GMT everywhere all the time. If you don’t like when things happen, do them at different times. Don’t lie about the time of day.
[19:47:06] <Jymmm> were*
[19:47:08] <Tom_itx> agreed
[19:47:41] <_methods> gmt 24/7 365
[19:47:44] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: That was a great video
[19:47:46] <_methods> except leap year
[19:47:49] <Tom_itx> but who's to say GMT is the right standard?
[19:48:07] <Sync_> andypugh: pls. swatch beat ;)
[19:48:37] <Jymmm> Sync_: Dude, that was SO last century!
[19:49:04] <Jymmm> Sync_: STEP INTO THE FUTURE PRESENT... we have candy!
[19:49:18] <_methods> DO NOT TAKE HIS CANDY
[19:49:30] <andypugh> Tom_itx: We did, when we drew all the maps :-)
[19:49:32] <yasnak> Can't it just always be saturday?
[19:49:38] <Jymmm> I'm given up my candy, get your own biotch!
[19:49:44] <Jymmm> ^not
[19:50:10] <CaptHindsight> my unencrypted phone just sends out random dick pics, NTSD never twice the same dick
[19:50:14] <_methods> jymm's van
[19:50:16] <_methods> https://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/2507236/img/Anonymous/pedobear-free-candy-van.jpg
[19:50:17] * Jymmm smacks _methods candy and watch it fly up into the air for everyone to grab!
[19:50:41] <andypugh> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar
[19:52:01] <Tom_itx> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar
[19:52:09] <_methods> now that's a calendar
[19:53:44] <andypugh> No, this is the super-crazy one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawukon_calendar
[19:53:49] <Jymmm> myna calendar expired years ago I thought
[19:54:03] <_methods> maya calendar never expires
[19:54:06] <CaptHindsight> http://s12.postimg.org/cpymlrgfx/Metric_Calendar.png
[19:54:10] <_methods> it just takes it like 4000 years to flip
[19:54:41] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: no, that was the end of the universe, you missed it
[19:54:59] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: not MULTIPLES of ten.... 1st month 10 days, 2nd Month 100 days, etc
[19:55:25] <CaptHindsight> http://www.webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-french.html
[19:55:51] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Hey, I was standing at the mountain that was suppose to open up and the mothership come out and take us all back to planet fucking goofy!
[19:56:29] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: I think they call it BurningMan =)
[19:56:41] <_methods> Jymmm was the lone heavens gate survivor
[19:56:46] <_methods> cause he did it wrong
[19:56:58] <_methods> he drank the toilet water instead of the kool-aid
[19:57:15] <Jymmm> _methods: go back in your brown van for more candy or something
[19:57:19] <_methods> hahahah
[19:57:38] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpsEqINeMS4
[19:58:53] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Not even close... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AphKxQ2NsQo
[20:00:03] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-UjB94LyYY
[20:00:27] <CaptHindsight> _methods: ^^
[20:00:49] <Jymmm> Oh man, it cut off just before the mudder ship
[20:00:57] <_methods> hahah
[20:01:03] <_methods> drilldo
[20:02:00] <_methods> man i love that documentary
[20:03:10] <CaptHindsight> my favorite GUI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXzJR7K0wK0
[20:15:26] <CaptHindsight> hey this is easy "Vote Trump- Machen Sie Frei"
[21:18:22] <Jymmm> cradek: malcom2073 whats to know/hear about your bus restore/revovation and see pics
[21:18:25] <Jymmm> wants*
[21:24:46] <malcom2073> Yeah thinking of doing my own restoration/redo of something
[21:49:14] <PetefromTn_> http://imgur.com/a/7qHYq :D
[22:11:09] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s
[22:37:50] <Tom_itx> must be a youtube sort of evening
[22:39:34] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn_ did you take off the spindle motor already?
[22:43:33] <PetefromTn_> Tom_itx Why would I have to?
[22:44:01] <Tom_itx> dunno, just looked like it was missing
[22:44:12] <PetefromTn_> no its still on there ;)
[22:44:23] <PetefromTn_> the Z axis motor is removed however
[22:45:22] <PetefromTn_> the big news tho is that the big electronics cabinet is now 10 inches lower and six inches to the right of where it was before
[22:46:11] <PetefromTn_> we were able to also adjust the cables to run more smoothly with less kinks on their way to the millhead cable chain.
[22:46:45] <PetefromTn_> once we got it on the skids
[22:46:51] <PetefromTn_> I took some quick measurements
[22:47:42] <PetefromTn_> right now as it sits the highest point from the ground is the mount for the Z motor and it is right at 80 3/8 inches
[22:48:18] <PetefromTn_> my garage shop door is about 82 1/2 inches high so it will easily go thru and a standard door should be 84 inches
[22:48:30] <PetefromTn_> so basically this machine can now be put in any garage
[22:48:42] <Tom_itx> drop it by
[22:49:01] <PetefromTn_> sure when can you cut a check? ;)
[22:49:10] <Tom_itx> any time
[22:49:15] <Tom_itx> may not be good though
[22:49:53] <PetefromTn_> I am honestly quite excited that it will go easily now because that was a big deal when I first bought it. It also made getting it off the truck and into the building a bit more complicated.
[22:52:24] <PetefromTn_> another nice side effect is the cabinet since it is now much lower and not on top of that huge heavy transformer box is much easier to work on at eye level for most of my components
[22:57:10] <PetefromTn_> Well we will see how loading it goes tomorrow. Hopefully we don't run into any problems and can get it on there without any drama.
[22:57:15] <PetefromTn_> Gn8 folks