#linuxcnc | Logs for 2016-02-01

[02:23:25] <Deejay> moin
[03:36:16] <rhavenj_> hi there, i need to buy a centronics parallel cable 36pin centronics to 25 pin parallel LPT cable. Is there anything i need to watch out for? anyone know if there are different pinout cables?
[03:39:04] <archivist> purpose of cable?
[03:39:24] <rhavenj_> to connect to an smc 800 driver board
[03:39:28] <archivist> most are 25 pin both ends and have been for years
[03:40:08] <rhavenj_> the board has a centronics 36 pin connector on one end
[03:40:15] <rhavenj_> im looking at http://www.ebay.de/itm/Druckerkabel-Parallelport-Centronics-36-polig-an-DSub-25-polig-1-8m-/310420310225?hash=item48467e08d1:g:sqkAAOSwofxUlV3m
[03:40:47] <rhavenj_> which says only 18 pins are connected, which led me to think that perhaps different configurations exsist
[03:40:57] <archivist> I know the connector, I worked with the real centonics connector when I worked with printers
[03:43:19] <rhavenj_> archivist, have you run into 18 pin cables in the past?
[03:43:32] <archivist> see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1284
[03:44:40] <rhavenj_> archivist, yes i was reading that wiki page as well
[03:44:50] <archivist> so is a cable is to that spec it should include all the needed wires
[03:44:58] <archivist> is/if
[03:47:37] <rhavenj_> hmm so i should only buy one that specifically mentions ieee 1284
[03:49:15] <archivist> to ensure the cable is fully wired yes http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Belkin-Gold-Series-IEEE-1284-Parallel-Printer-Cable-A-B-5m-Gold-Plated-/251455543452
[03:50:44] <archivist> I see a lot of crap on ebay in that regard
[03:53:07] <rhavenj_> i find http://www.ebay.de/itm/5m-Drucker-Kabel-Premium-LPT-Centronic-IEEE1284-Parallel-Y46-520-/221016825800?hash=item3375a11fc8:g:6sMAAOSw7FRWZyLj
[03:53:24] <rhavenj_> but cannot identify what Y46 means
[03:54:09] <archivist> looks expensive
[03:55:23] <rhavenj_> or http://www.ebay.de/itm/Hama-Gold-Line-Drucker-Kabel-3m-IEEE1284-Parallel-Centronics-Kabel-24k-vergoldet-/330877076954?hash=item4d09cf85da:g:gEgAAOSwcu5URbNL
[03:59:43] <rhavenj_> i think thats the one
[05:21:03] <witnit> rhavenj what is the board you are connecting to?
[05:21:07] <witnit> rhavenj_:
[05:22:24] <archivist> <rhavenj_> to connect to an smc 800 driver board
[05:23:38] <rhavenj_> witnit, yes SMC 800
[05:24:36] <rhavenj_> in the data sheet only says "A standard printer cable is necessary"
[05:26:08] <witnit> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiSqde5tNbKAhVG1CYKHRsNAFAQFghKMAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.robio.be%2Fcnc%2Fsecond%2FJumbo_plotter%2FSMC800%2FSmc800_eng_v2.pdf&usg=AFQjCNGc_RSctWO6uvj4qhupKv2G6WHc2w&bvm=bv.113034660,d.eWE
[05:26:13] <witnit> page 26
[05:29:04] <witnit> http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/parallel-db25-36chart.gif
[05:29:48] <witnit> rhavenj_: you should probably be able to see if all centronics cables are the same with those types of charts
[05:30:48] <rhavenj_> witnit, thanks, problem is i havent found sellers which post the pinouts for their cables. archivists suggestion was to make sure the standard ieee 1284 is used
[05:31:40] <rhavenj_> om your second link its not clear which pins correspond
[05:31:52] <rhavenj_> there are more pins on the centronics side listed which are connected
[05:32:04] <archivist> they are named on the second link
[05:32:18] <witnit> from what i understand centronics printer cables basicly became a standard of their own and are "AFAIK" always the same pins 1-18
[05:32:27] <archivist> and there are more grounds in the 36p
[05:32:58] <witnit> most likely just a 25 pin cable with the last pins all soldered together
[05:33:29] <rhavenj_> cant be, pin 31 32 and 36 are not ground
[05:34:14] <witnit> they are just jumped to pins 16 15 and 17 respectively i would imagine
[05:34:51] <rhavenj_> yea could be
[05:34:53] <archivist> nah its the direction and side
[05:36:36] <witnit> http://s505763140.onlinehome.us/specs/PC304-xxM_S.jpg
[05:36:42] <archivist> the original 36 pin was designed with data/ground twisted pair in mind, and then some cheap IBM skimped on pins
[05:39:09] <witnit> ohhh ooops that last one would be the mini connector
[05:39:15] <witnit> not the standard one I guess
[05:42:18] <witnit> you might be better off buying just a db25 to centronics adapter and then you can pin the machine out yourself with a really nice parallel cable :)
[07:19:00] <jthornton> morning
[07:22:10] <archivist> past morning its sammich time
[08:33:59] <Frank__> hows everything arch
[08:51:25] <archivist> bailiff at the door
[09:17:31] <_methods> RUN
[10:12:53] <Simonious> what does -2B mean to a machinist on a tapped hole?
[10:14:47] <cradek> that is the tolerance class
[10:15:11] <cradek> you call the hole and the bolt both (say) 1/4-20 but for it to work the hole has to be bigger than the screw
[10:15:36] <cradek> how much bigger depends on the application
[10:16:21] <gregcnc> Tolerance spec on pitch diameter
[10:16:32] <Gaston|Home> Here is a guide that was linked from wikipedia http://www.amesweb.info/Screws/AsmeUnifiedInchScrewThread.aspx
[10:16:35] <Simonious> the bolts are 6-32 and 1/4-28
[10:16:38] <Simonious> thanks
[10:16:59] <Gaston|Home> And the wiki page was: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Thread_Standard
[10:17:04] <cradek> do you have machinery's handbook?
[10:17:12] <Simonious> I don't.
[10:17:15] <Simonious> I probabl should
[10:17:36] <cradek> you should! it's probably fine to get one a few versions old.
[10:17:49] <Simonious> I'm not a machinist, but I do a little machining - very much a novice. I work in a prototype shop, most of that work is done by another guy, but he isn't always here.
[10:19:38] <Gaston|Home> I would guess that most shops that do things to tight tolerances have a set of GO/NO GO samples to verify
[10:21:31] <_methods> they do indeed
[10:22:06] * Simonious nods
[10:24:08] <_methods> http://www.shars.com/files/products/303-1601/303-1601Main.jpg
[10:24:19] <_methods> don't think i'd get my go/nogo's from shars
[10:24:20] <_methods> but whatever
[10:24:55] <_methods> http://www.threadcheck.com/product_images/large/southern-thread-ring-gage-inch-go-no-go-set.jpg
[10:24:59] <_methods> and for od threads
[10:29:00] <CaptHindsight> did the tap come back out of the hole? did it leave any parts of the tap in the hole? NO --> Reject, Yes --> Inspection Passed
[10:29:34] <Simonious> I see MANY books with 'machinist's handbook' in the title.. which is the one?
[10:29:57] <_methods> machinery's handbook
[10:30:14] <_methods> http://www.amazon.com/Machinerys-Handbook-29th-Erik-Oberg/dp/083112900X
[10:30:26] <_methods> i believe that is the newest
[10:31:11] <CaptHindsight> are they like math books? Do you need the latest one since math changes so often? :)
[10:31:17] <_methods> nah you don't
[10:31:33] <_methods> i mean it's nice to have the latest and greatest
[10:31:59] <_methods> but stuff like thread tolerances/class of fit don't change much
[10:32:08] <CaptHindsight> Simonious: I come across them in used book stores
[10:32:41] <_methods> unlike "software engineers" mechanical engineers tend to make things that last
[10:33:03] <CaptHindsight> bunch on ebay for ~$25
[10:33:10] <_methods> and they dont' just make up new threads for funzies
[10:33:27] <Simonious> yay! I just found the 26th edition on _the_ bookshelf :D
[10:33:39] <Simonious> I was going to order one for the shop if I couldn't find one.
[10:33:54] <Cromaglious> mechanical engineers either make things that last OR make things explode
[10:33:55] <CaptHindsight> I once had someone that was serious make an argument for why kids need the latest math books
[10:34:33] <Cromaglious> I prefer math books from the early '60s
[10:34:57] <Cromaglious> before all this new math and common core crap
[10:35:02] <_methods> hehe
[10:35:06] <CaptHindsight> Cromaglious: I agree
[10:35:09] <gregcnc> No!! MATH changed, haven't you heard of Common Core
[10:35:39] <CaptHindsight> I once found a set that covered basic math through Calc from the 40's. It was written so clearly
[10:35:44] <gregcnc> https://rylander4bgsd.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/estimate_math_2.jpg
[10:35:51] <_methods> um don't you know everything in life has to be easy
[10:35:52] <Cromaglious> I don't need quantum physics when designing a engine mount
[10:35:57] <_methods> nothing can be difficult
[10:36:10] <_methods> everyone can do anything they want
[10:36:39] <CaptHindsight> and everyone deserves a reward just for showing up
[10:36:44] <_methods> true dat
[10:36:50] <_methods> now where's my scooby snack
[10:37:19] <Cromaglious> BULL PUCKEY!!! if you show up get the Tshirt, get a trophy for actually winning!
[10:38:44] <Cromaglious> YEA!!! FedEx found my hitch!
[10:38:45] <_methods> they don't keep score anymore at little league games i hear
[10:38:50] <_methods> so there are no winners or losers
[10:38:59] <CaptHindsight> all suckers
[10:39:39] <gregcnc> Capt, did the Sl-5 follow you home?
[10:39:46] <_methods> no more dodgeball
[10:40:03] <_methods> to me that's the biggest crime
[10:40:08] <_methods> life without dodgeball
[10:40:29] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: didn't look at it yet, it would be an extra lathe, so not pressing
[10:41:47] <CaptHindsight> well life today is all about feelings, not like the olden days
[10:42:31] <_methods> i'm pretty sure my grandpa had feelings, mostly hatred, but he had some
[10:43:46] <_methods> http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Tyler-Texas-Lightning-Strike.gif
[10:43:49] <Cromaglious> no more dodge ball? Grrr how am I supposed to take out my aggression on the bullies?
[10:44:07] <_methods> bewm
[10:45:01] <CaptHindsight> Cromaglious: you're doing it wrong, you are supposed to be a bully, and then talk about how bullying is wrong and there is a bullying policy
[10:45:46] <Cromaglious> those pricks are still bullies, and 4 out of 5 are now cops...
[10:46:06] <Cromaglious> I still think they have problems adding 2 plus 2
[10:46:29] <Cromaglious> Why do you think I live at the other end of the state now
[10:48:50] <CaptHindsight> Cromaglious: be careful with that talk, you're not supposed to be aware of any double standards, let alone talk about them
[10:49:13] <_methods> yeah i'm sure that will hurt someones feelings somewhere
[10:49:56] <CaptHindsight> lol
[10:56:51] <Cromaglious> I'm 51, like I give a shit for peoples feelings..
[10:58:17] <_methods> heheh
[11:02:29] <Cromaglious> I wish the Veterans Administration would hurry up and get that nice big juicy check... I need a MILL!
[11:03:19] <Cromaglious> s/get that/send that/
[11:04:44] <CaptHindsight> how long have you been waiting?
[11:06:09] <Cromaglious> They remanded my case back to San Diego in December, so I should be hearing something in the next 668 days
[11:06:26] <Cromaglious> I appealed 7 years ago
[11:07:47] <CaptHindsight> it's their way of thanking you for your service and sacrifice
[11:08:33] <Cromaglious> looking at this one http://www.amazon.com/Bolton-Dovetail-Compound-Variable-Required/dp/B001KW1LBO
[13:00:36] <Frank__> helloes
[13:10:33] <Frank__> guys how many threads do you think an m6 tap can do
[13:10:42] <_methods> depends on the tap
[13:10:44] <_methods> and the material
[13:10:51] <_methods> rigidity of the machine and setup
[13:10:57] <gregcnc> 0 to ~10,000
[13:11:02] <_methods> ^^
[13:11:03] <_methods> lol
[13:12:23] <gregcnc> when it gets harder to turn you can replace it. Eventually it will be so dull torque breaks it or the thread is out of spec.
[13:15:04] <gregcnc> and we've all broken a brand new tap at least once in our life
[13:15:26] <Jymmm> NEVAH!!!!
[13:16:15] * Jymmm covers the EDM broken tap/bolt remover
[13:16:44] <Deejay> hrhr
[13:19:12] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YbeKxFBZrF8#t=351
[13:29:26] <CaptHindsight> taps only break on the last hole right before you leave on Friday :)
[13:29:46] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight+++++++++++++
[13:30:40] <maxcnc> no internet at the shop forced to close early
[13:31:49] <CaptHindsight> maxcnc: are the machines controlled over the internet?
[13:31:52] <maxcnc> all shops around are angry on the 7days no internet call from the provider
[13:32:08] <maxcnc> CaptHindsight: no but the costemer and the orders
[13:32:33] <CaptHindsight> did something break at your ISP?
[13:32:42] <_methods> https://m.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/43fi39/i_set_up_my_raspberry_pi_to_automatically_tweet/
[13:32:46] <maxcnc> reading the logs
[13:32:50] <_methods> just set that up
[13:33:13] <CaptHindsight> love it
[13:33:17] <_methods> lol
[13:34:20] <maxcnc> rasperry is cool town uses them to provide the web infos offline in the middle of nowhere on a truck battery that runs for 1 month
[13:35:42] <maxcnc> Joke -> deers like to chat and text etch other in the wild wild wood
[13:36:14] <maxcnc> Frank__: ? still mounting or milling
[13:37:36] <Frank__> hello
[13:37:59] <Frank__> gregcnc sorry for delay
[13:37:59] <maxcnc> CaptHindsight: we are going from 700kb speed up to 50mb
[13:38:02] <Frank__> of righting
[13:38:05] <Frank__> writing
[13:38:14] <Frank__> today, i bought 2 taps for the hole machine
[13:38:16] <Frank__> guess what
[13:38:27] <Frank__> 8 holes and broked 1 tap T_T
[13:38:36] <Frank__> i felt like sh~
[13:38:46] <_methods> they banned lawn darts
[13:38:47] <_methods> wtf
[13:38:51] <maxcnc> Frank__: i managed once in the back days real job work to tap m6 250+ holes at 15 turns etch in C45
[13:39:13] <Frank__> nicee
[13:39:26] <Frank__> this is mild steel 12 mm
[13:40:11] <maxcnc> runing thru is more complicated then a surten depth
[13:40:23] <Frank__> surten?
[13:40:39] <maxcnc> 20mm depth not thrue
[13:41:25] <Frank__> well,, still more than 12 mm tapping?
[13:41:28] <maxcnc> im out of english on that <- to old
[13:41:30] <membiblio> Greetings - does HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS=YES work?
[13:41:49] <maxcnc> yes
[13:42:12] <maxcnc> membiblio: there is also home is shared
[13:42:24] <membiblio> If so - why does LCNC complain about Joint X on Limit Switch?
[13:42:37] <cradek> in what situation?
[13:42:52] <membiblio> maxcnc - I don't use Home Is Shared - I have separate switches for everything.
[13:43:22] <maxcnc> membiblio: talk to cradek
[13:43:30] <membiblio> cradek when I power on the machine to home - I always have to edge the servo's off the limit switch
[13:44:08] <cradek> it's sitting on the limit switch when you power on?
[13:44:22] <membiblio> cradek yes
[13:44:25] <cradek> why?
[13:44:26] <maxcnc> then your home is wrong you shoudt use Home and homeoffset different values
[13:44:50] <membiblio> Because the Z axis sinks when the machine is not powered.
[13:44:50] <cradek> you have to use override limits to get off the limit switch before you can go to machine-on state. you must be in machine-on state to home
[13:44:59] <maxcnc> and the last move of the day is G0 G53 X10 Y10 Z-10
[13:45:26] <membiblio> cradek - show do you use override limits - is that not what HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS=YES is for?
[13:45:28] <cradek> ah I see. yeah that is not a homing configuration issue at all.
[13:45:32] <cradek> no
[13:45:33] <maxcnc> so next day is power on home :-)
[13:46:11] <cradek> "override limit" lets you turn on machine power so you can move off the limit switch
[13:46:37] <membiblio> cradek - how do you use override limit?
[13:46:48] <maxcnc> membiblio: cand you fix some gearing in the Z
[13:46:53] <gregcnc> Frank__ the trouble you're having with the hole drilling probably isn't helping tapping
[13:46:54] <membiblio> You mean the checkbox?
[13:47:01] <cradek> turn on override limit - turn on machine power - jog in the correct direction to move off the limit switch
[13:47:05] <cradek> yes
[13:47:24] <cradek> then after you are off the limit switch machine power will stay on, all is fine, go ahead and home
[13:47:43] <Frank__> gregcnc: maybe a hole or two, but most of them actually came pretty good, not excellent but..
[13:47:50] <cradek> you do NOT want HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS unless you have no separate home switch
[13:48:03] <Frank__> from 5mm bit i got 5.25mm hole on the biggest part
[13:48:09] <membiblio> cradek - yes that works but is not a ideal solution for a automagic machine
[13:48:15] <membiblio> craded - thank you
[13:48:26] <membiblio> crakek - thank you... :)
[13:48:31] <_methods> lol
[13:48:36] <cradek> ideal solution is to have counterweight on Z axis so it doesn't fall
[13:48:49] <cradek> falling is dangerous and will break tooling and ruin work
[13:48:51] <gregcnc> HSS taps?
[13:49:10] <membiblio> cradek this is a servo pheumatic machine - it rests on the spindle by design
[13:49:29] <membiblio> cradek - it is a old Routech 250
[13:49:36] <cradek> I have seen shops use a 4x4 cut to the right length to hold the head up :-)
[13:50:24] <JT-Shop> the shop that works on my car and truck has ice wood... they prop up the trusses when it ices
[13:50:40] <maxcnc> im off Gn8
[13:50:59] <cradek> you mean they hold the roof up temporarily until the ice melts?
[13:51:46] <JT-Shop> yep
[13:51:49] <cradek> wow!
[13:52:17] <JT-Shop> they put them in the center of each truss and he said you can't get them back out till the ice melts
[13:52:45] <Frank__> yes hss
[13:53:19] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: That's a "security feature" =)
[13:53:34] <Frank__> im going to cry if i break this one again
[13:53:56] * Jymmm hands Frank__ a box of tissues (just in case)
[13:54:13] * JT-Shop goes back to lumberjacking
[13:54:23] <Frank__> i think i broke it because my corded drill is working kind of bad, and i overtorqued the tap
[13:54:27] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Hey, have you considered geothermal?
[13:54:29] <Frank__> hahaa
[13:54:52] <Frank__> what do you guys do to talk specially to someone
[13:55:10] <Jymmm> Frank__: I've chucked taps in the drillpress, then MANUALLY turned it
[13:55:14] <Frank__> i do the jymmm: but i dont know if its the right thing
[13:55:39] <Frank__> even if they are machine taps?
[13:56:17] <Jymmm> Frank__: I'm speaking of hand tapping something. The drillpress keeps the alignment
[13:57:09] <Jymmm> It's REAL easy to use a cordless drill to tap, then kinda go sideways and.... *SNAP*
[13:57:55] <Frank__> i've seen that fixture, but the way this holes are made, the drillpress doesnt end up quite true
[13:58:04] <Jymmm> ah
[13:58:38] <Jymmm> Just an option if scenario merits it.
[13:59:03] <Frank__> yeah, ill try for the gantry, which is more manageable
[14:00:28] <Jymmm> It's not necesairlly "easier", just slightly more accurate and less prone to breakage as you can "feel" how the tap is progressing. Also be sure to back out the tap every few turns
[14:00:42] <Jymmm> and use some kind of cutting/tapping fluid
[14:01:51] <Jymmm> Especially if it's at the end of the day and you're getting tire and not thinking too straight ;)
[14:01:56] <Jymmm> tired*
[14:03:15] <_methods> anchor lube FTW
[14:05:55] <Frank__> wd40 works :D ?
[14:05:58] <Jymmm> _methods: PHUK... it's tweet comcast sucking, then a page and a half of cars/majors/the wire *sigh*
[14:06:18] <Frank__> motor oil?
[14:06:27] <_methods> sure motor oil will work too
[14:06:32] <_methods> i've used that before
[14:06:52] <Frank__> then we have a winner
[14:06:53] <Frank__> hahaha
[14:06:59] <gregcnc> meh ATT sucks too
[14:08:25] <gregcnc> Comcast around here is 2-3x fast and cheaper. ATT resets my router when they, I'm guessing, run out of bandwidth
[14:08:43] <Jymmm> gregcnc: Where are you?
[14:08:51] <gregcnc> NW of Chicago
[14:09:09] <Jymmm> ah, NorCal here. usually no issues liek that
[14:10:33] <gregcnc> I called them about it and it didn't reset for 2-3 weeks, they tried to tell me it was my wiring. service improved right after the call
[14:10:50] <Frank__> that sounds oddly familiar
[14:12:12] <_methods> it's a lot easier to blame it on you
[14:13:48] <Jymmm> If I get shit from ATT, I just call corporate offices. problem solved.
[14:14:52] <Jymmm> Not like ranting, but when stuff is actually fubar'ed and you can't get a proper resolution.
[14:17:36] <gregcnc> I think I have 2-3 months then back to Comcast, probably no TV this time too.
[14:51:07] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: there's a Comcast reseller that offers lower rates and no contract
[14:51:22] <gregcnc> oh?
[14:51:46] <CaptHindsight> UWC uwchs.com
[14:52:17] <CaptHindsight> they will hand you a modem and cable if you want or bring your own
[14:52:40] <CaptHindsight> if there's already signal you can self install and activate
[14:53:42] <gregcnc> I'll look into it thanks!
[16:06:20] <JT-Shop> YEA my Mesa order is on the way
[16:07:33] <enleth> at least you don't have to wait fucking three weeks for the customs to clear it
[16:14:31] <JT-Shop> yea customs can be somewhat of a pia sometimes
[16:15:09] <JT-Shop> when I worked in Zaire you had to bribe the customs to get your stuff through
[16:21:28] <Deejay> gn8
[16:32:58] <Erant> Any suggestions for an affordable bench grinder?
[16:33:26] <Erant> Looking for something to just touch up bits and whatnot.
[16:37:27] <JT-Shop> do you have a flea market nearby
[16:38:49] <Erant> Yeah, fair point.
[16:40:03] <JT-Shop> I got a buffer for $5 and use a wire wheel on it to clean stuff
[16:43:02] <enleth> Erant: get the cheapest one and forget it, replace when it falls apart?
[16:43:20] <enleth> that's just about the only tool the chinese can't screw up
[16:43:26] <Erant> I think I was mostly wondering about the quality of the wheels on it
[16:43:42] <Erant> But I guess if they were flying apart on a regular basis we'd hear about it
[16:43:45] <enleth> ah, of course you buy separate wheels
[16:45:29] <enleth> but the grinder itself - unless you want a fancy adjustable rest, wet grinding capability or something like that, get the cheapest one you see
[16:45:43] <enleth> (for the size required)
[16:47:01] <Erant> Figured an 8" to prevent too much rounding when I'm grinding tools
[17:21:09] <Kucharsky> Hey do you guys know how to get rid of splash gcode program in sim.axis demo configuration?
[17:21:27] <Kucharsky> It always loads up by default
[17:34:33] <rob_h> there is Ini setting to say what loads on start
[17:53:55] * JT-Shop waves at rob_h
[18:15:47] <Kucharsky> rob_h: dang it, I don't think there is
[18:16:25] <Kucharsky> looking at this file right now and no param seems to ring a bell
[18:16:39] <Kucharsky> Hey do you guys know how to get rid of splash gcode program in sim.axis demo configuration?
[18:16:44] <Kucharsky> It always loads up by default
[18:16:44] <JT-Shop> Kucharsky: yes just use ""
[18:17:23] <Kucharsky> JT-Shop: use it where?
[18:17:50] <JT-Shop> splash image or the gcode file?
[18:17:56] <Kucharsky> gcode
[18:18:15] <Kucharsky> I see the param for splash img but not for splash gcode
[18:18:32] <JT-Shop> it's not a splash
[18:18:34] <JT-Shop> OPEN_FILE = /full/path/to/file.ngc - The file to show in the preview plot when AXIS starts. Use a blank string "" and no file will be loaded at start up.
[18:18:47] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/config/ini-config.html#_display_section
[18:19:45] <JT-Shop> now tell me where my calculator is
[18:19:53] <Kucharsky> thanks man,
[18:20:21] <JT-Shop> must be time to clean my desk
[18:21:23] <Kucharsky> well... I'll buy U a new one if U keep helping me like this man ;)
[18:21:47] <JT-Shop> I have 6 around the shop lol and that's what we do on the irc
[18:23:02] <Kucharsky> JT-Shop: I bet U don't have anything like this: http://allegro.pl/stary-kalkulator-elektronika-mk57-prl-zsrr-cccp-i5945890007.html
[18:24:00] <Kucharsky> Soviet CCCP indestructible
[18:24:25] <Kucharsky> made to withstand nuclear blast
[18:24:44] <JT-Shop> no, I do have this http://gnipsel.com/images/JD350/350b01s.jpg
[18:24:57] <zeeshan|2> that definitely wont take a nuclear blast
[18:24:57] <zeeshan|2> lol
[18:25:13] <zeeshan|2> (the calc)
[18:25:27] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/images/splitter/splitter-28.jpg
[18:25:47] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/images/splitter/splitter-29.jpg
[18:26:03] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/images/splitter/splitter-30.jpg
[18:26:17] <JT-Shop> look at the last one close
[18:27:07] <JT-Shop> I bet I can blow it up http://gnipsel.com/cannon/cannon.xhtml
[18:27:35] <JT-Shop> zeeshan|2: you like this one http://gnipsel.com/cannon/cannon-10.xhtml
[18:27:37] <zeeshan|2> haha nice!
[18:27:41] <zeeshan|2> why do you have a cast iron cannon
[18:27:49] <zeeshan|2> looks nice :)
[18:27:56] <JT-Shop> to shoot why not
[18:28:02] <zeeshan|2> JT-Shop: i was looking at log splitters at the store
[18:28:06] <zeeshan|2> they dont even come close to yours
[18:28:17] <JT-Shop> I do tend to over build
[18:28:29] <JT-Shop> a design flaw in my brain
[18:28:36] <zeeshan|2> id be curious to see what it does to 1/4" aluminum
[18:28:37] <zeeshan|2> :D
[18:29:07] <JT-Shop> with a lead ball I'd bet it would go through at close range
[18:29:13] <Kucharsky> nice pics
[18:29:49] <Kucharsky> here in EU they don't even let us have 22's let alone cannon
[18:29:53] <JT-Shop> thanks
[18:30:04] <JT-Shop> I built 2 cannons
[18:30:55] <gregcnc> paluszki for AA = giggles, I don't know why still to this day
[18:30:57] <JT-Shop> in GB you can have a cannon
[18:31:35] <Kucharsky> or two ;)
[18:32:18] <Kucharsky> JT-Shop: sorry to say but your param does not work
[18:32:34] <Kucharsky> OPEN_FILE = ""
[18:32:39] <Kucharsky> drives me mad
[18:32:44] <gregcnc> how often are Stens really found in walls of houses in Europe?
[18:34:18] <Kucharsky> Stens?
[18:34:19] <JT-Shop> sure it does, what section did you put it in?
[18:34:23] <Kucharsky> Display
[18:35:31] <Kucharsky> JT-Shop: sorry man,
[18:35:53] <Kucharsky> I guess sublime won't save my file in trial version after frew saves
[18:35:56] <Kucharsky> few saves
[18:36:41] <Kucharsky> I thaught I saved it, but vi tells me otherwise
[18:37:05] * JT-Shop likes Gedit
[18:39:12] <Kucharsky> JT-Shop: what do U load your cannos with?
[18:39:35] <Kucharsky> black pwdr + led cannon balls?
[18:39:48] <JT-Shop> usually 3 oz F black powder and an aluminum foil ball
[18:40:17] <JT-Shop> lead balls or golf balls when I want to hit something
[18:40:35] <JT-Shop> golf balls can be interesting when you hit a tree
[18:40:57] <Kucharsky> hehe
[18:42:34] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/ballista/ballista.xhtml
[18:42:35] <Kucharsky> Ok, I'll be getting some sleep thanks for the help man. Hope I can return the favour one day
[18:43:07] <Kucharsky> Found your calc: http://gnipsel.com/ballista/ballista-01.xhtml
[18:44:06] <Kucharsky> bye
[20:21:02] <bobo> PetefromTn hay Pete are you getting a grip on the moving jitters ? hope you are
[20:23:14] <PetefromTn_> bobo honestly no not really....LOL
[20:23:37] <PetefromTn_> we received the results apparently of the home inspection today
[20:23:56] <PetefromTn_> there are a few minor things they want us to fix nothing earth shattering
[20:24:13] <PetefromTn_> this is in addition to the things we already agreed to fix LOL
[20:24:31] <PetefromTn_> so the totality of all of it is weighing heavy right now
[20:25:05] <PetefromTn_> but other than that and just the logistics of moving everything and finding shippers etc. is a bit overwhelming. But hey I asked for it right!
[20:25:29] <bobo> come on Pete calm the heck down 6 months you will be dealing with the heat
[20:25:56] <PetefromTn_> Oh I never said I was not calm man
[20:26:07] <PetefromTn_> more like dreading all this work
[20:26:32] <PetefromTn_> we can of course negotiate some of this in the deal
[20:26:41] <PetefromTn_> just got the results today tho
[20:28:49] <bobo> you already know it will be over a year before the new shop is back to normal. so just enjoy
[20:29:10] <PetefromTn_> if there is a new shop LOL
[20:29:51] <bobo> test results of what
[20:30:12] <PetefromTn_> the home inspection and termite inspection
[20:32:23] <bobo> did the inspector figer out termites were living elsewhere ?
[20:33:38] <PetefromTn_> yeah no active termite problems but the buyers still want us to get the house treated and give them a termite letter... SO its just more money no idea what that costs
[20:34:37] <jfindley> How many square feet?
[20:34:50] <PetefromTn_> 1380
[20:35:04] <jfindley> probably in the neighborhood of a grand
[20:35:13] <PetefromTn_> shit
[20:35:20] <bobo> Pete any way to temp store your shop stuff where you are daytime working ?
[20:35:34] <PetefromTn_> why would I want to do that?
[20:35:47] <PetefromTn_> I need to get this stuff down to Florida storage facility
[20:37:59] <bobo> if you don't have a shop in florida and give you more time to come up with something down there
[20:39:35] <PetefromTn_> reality is that I have to get a house with either a 2 car garage or a shop building out back. Both of which are gonna cost
[20:40:19] <bobo> Pete or build a shop there
[20:40:40] <jfindley> You can get one of them in Texas in the low to mid 100s.
[20:41:03] <PetefromTn_> that is about what it will cost in Florida too apparently
[20:42:00] <PetefromTn_> I don't need a castle or taj majal but I do need a decent safe home big enough for the fam and the shop... hoping for a good result here, Wish me luck guys!!
[20:42:22] <jfindley> Buying a home sucks, no matter how lucky you are.
[20:42:35] <PetefromTn_> I hear ya.
[20:42:38] <CaptHindsight> go steel!
[20:43:04] <PetefromTn_> this will be only our second home so I have never sold a home before. Learning as we go here GASP!!
[20:43:04] <CaptHindsight> build a house and shop from shipping containers
[20:43:24] <PetefromTn_> I could not imagine living inside a shipping container in south florida LOL
[20:43:29] <jfindley> You could probably get away with that in Florida =)
[20:43:35] <PetefromTn_> might as well climb inside the oven
[20:43:41] <bobo> Pete a friend of mine said a "Cube shipping container , 8ft door" should go for about $1500
[20:44:28] <os1r1s> Man, a shipping container is such a great idea
[20:44:38] <os1r1s> They are plentiful here.
[20:44:43] <PetefromTn_> my good friend lives down there and the city where we are going has given him a lot of grief for buying the lot next door and putting a small shop building on it. He is basically paying tax as if there was an entire house on it...
[20:44:50] <bobo> and shipping a container is not too expensive
[20:45:02] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG6UmBBtspY Luxury Shipping Container Homes
[20:45:39] <jfindley> It's been a dream of mine to bury a couple or three containers in a line and turn that into an underground gun range.
[20:45:48] <Lowridah> how to live in rectangle
[20:46:40] <PetefromTn_> I would be willing to bet money that those luxury shipping container homes cost MORE than the same home built from traditional materials
[20:47:12] <CaptHindsight> depends on how you do it
[20:47:23] <CaptHindsight> same as rebuilding a machine
[20:47:48] <Lowridah> well other than losing the stick and frame advantage of easily running facilities like water and power
[20:47:54] <Lowridah> yea they cost as much to finish
[20:47:57] <PetefromTn_> just think about all the custom things it would need, wiring, insulation, interior sheeting, windows, etc. etc. etc. let alone lifting and stacking them with a crane
[20:48:07] <Lowridah> i ran the numbers and it's not a major savings
[20:48:25] <Lowridah> unless you don't care about code or don't mind living in a big steel box
[20:48:53] <PetefromTn_> I could maybe see doing one for a cabin in the woods or something that does not need a lot of the niceties
[20:49:09] <Lowridah> really, if you're going to do a cabin, cordwood construction is much more cost effective
[20:49:21] <Lowridah> it's just labor intensive
[20:49:23] <jfindley> Lowridah: Have you looked at compressed tire houses?
[20:49:35] <Lowridah> i've looked at a lot of alternative construction methods
[20:49:41] <Lowridah> i'm pretty fond of cordwood
[20:50:01] <Lowridah> if i didn't care about space i'd do a frameless geo dome or something and just run everything under the frame
[20:50:10] <PetefromTn_> most of the homes in Florida are CBS and it works
[20:50:36] <CaptHindsight> prefab concrete and tilt up
[20:50:59] <PetefromTn_> we are going to go with an existing home purchase almost definitely
[20:52:36] <CaptHindsight> what's the ETA on when that part of Florida will be under water?
[20:53:01] <PetefromTn_> probably JUST after we buy our home down there :D
[20:53:08] <CaptHindsight> 20-30+ years?
[20:53:24] <CaptHindsight> LuckyPete
[20:53:49] <CaptHindsight> how about a nice houseboat? :0
[20:53:50] <PetefromTn_> Pete is a lot of things but LUCKY has never been one of them LOL
[20:54:18] <bobo> Pete what is your friends shop size and how big is the lot it is on . any guess ?
[20:54:22] <PetefromTn_> CaptHindsight Honestly I would LOVE to buy a bigass liveaboard Sailboat and then put the shop into an industrial building
[20:54:45] <PetefromTn_> but my wife Ain't going for that unfortunately
[20:54:54] <CaptHindsight> ah well
[20:55:48] <PetefromTn_> I would absolutely love that I swear I would be in the Bahamas and down in the Carribean whenever I could..
[20:56:35] <CaptHindsight> freak em out down there and build this https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e1/36/e9/e136e90bcf2b32338740bb810b387e34.jpg
[20:56:58] <PetefromTn_> what we need really is a company like Lakeshore Carbide or Maritool with the shipping turnaround like Mcmaster Carr... SIGH
[20:56:58] <CaptHindsight> Tennessee Cabins in Florida
[20:57:20] <PetefromTn_> probably would burst into flames from the heat :D
[20:57:38] <CaptHindsight> alligator proof
[20:57:56] <PetefromTn_> Gators only bite when you touch their private parts
[20:58:16] <Lowridah> where else would you touch
[20:58:17] <malcom2073> On a gator, every part is a private part :P
[20:58:29] <PetefromTn_> hehehe
[21:01:05] <bobo> Pete what is your friend in florida shop size and how big is the lot is it on . any guess ?
[21:01:39] <PetefromTn_> its not really a shop more like a rather big shed and I guess it is probably like a half acre or something
[21:02:30] <Jymmm> 1/2 acre shed?
[21:02:50] <PetefromTn_> no silly 1/2 acre lot
[21:02:54] * Jymmm never heard of rednecks from Florida before
[21:03:10] <PetefromTn_> Oh they have rednecks in Florida alright
[21:03:21] <Jymmm> and soon to have one more
[21:03:30] <PetefromTn_> how did I know that was coming
[21:03:50] <Jymmm> but only if you start packing =)
[21:03:58] <os1r1s> PetefromTn_ The rednecks from NJ are the worst I've seen
[21:04:04] <PetefromTn_> We have started packing already
[21:04:09] <os1r1s> Way worse than anywhere in the south
[21:04:20] <PetefromTn_> my wife cleared out the attic space in the house upstairs this weekend...
[21:04:35] <PetefromTn_> I have been to rural NJ before
[21:04:44] <PetefromTn_> Cherry Hill and around the area
[21:05:09] <PetefromTn_> and of course I was at Cape May for the Coast Guard Basic training...also wildwood
[21:11:02] <os1r1s> PetefromTn_ This would have been somewhere not too far from Mahwah/Ramsey
[21:12:17] <PetefromTn_> No idea where that is.
[21:12:38] <PetefromTn_> I met a gorgeous Girl from Cherry Hill NJ in Walt Disney World years ago
[21:12:55] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: did you marry her?
[21:13:15] <PetefromTn_> after a couple weeks of talking to her after her visit I actually drove up there to see her
[21:13:22] <PetefromTn_> no I did not marry her LO
[21:13:33] <Jymmm> Awww
[21:13:50] <PetefromTn_> I was just enlisted in the coast Guard so I had to leave
[21:14:06] <PetefromTn_> you guys wanna hear a funny story tho?
[21:14:38] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: Ah, gotcha.... one in every port
[21:14:44] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: sure
[21:14:49] <PetefromTn_> heh
[21:15:22] <PetefromTn_> well I called her and told her I was going to drive up to see her ( and also my Uncle and cousins in New York)
[21:15:37] <PetefromTn_> but I told her It would be a surprise when I show up LOL
[21:15:49] <PetefromTn_> she worked in a little Pizza place
[21:15:55] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HifO-ebmE1s Eagle kicks drones butt
[21:16:03] <PetefromTn_> I think it was called Cherry Hill Pizza or something like that
[21:16:21] <PetefromTn_> anyways I drive up there in my jeep wrangler
[21:16:34] <PetefromTn_> I get to Cherry Hill New jersey
[21:16:41] <PetefromTn_> I call her from the Hwy
[21:16:48] <PetefromTn_> I get her mom on the phone
[21:17:07] <PetefromTn_> she tells me she is working at the pizza place and to surprise her there...
[21:17:13] <malcom2073> CaptHindsight: I'd hate to think of them using an eagle against a proper camera drone, the blades would chop up its poor feet
[21:17:13] <PetefromTn_> so I drive there
[21:17:45] <PetefromTn_> I walk in and she goes nutz all happy to see me and very excited it was really cool...
[21:18:05] <PetefromTn_> so she tells me that I gotta go to her house so she can let me meet her parents etc.
[21:18:15] <CaptHindsight> malcom2073: teams of pigeons with nets
[21:18:16] <PetefromTn_> she drives this little mustang v6
[21:18:20] <malcom2073> CaptHindsight: I like that idea
[21:18:29] <PetefromTn_> so we get in the cars and she starts driving home
[21:18:40] <PetefromTn_> I have NO IDEA where she lives on those country roads..
[21:18:46] <PetefromTn_> and she is like really hauling ass...
[21:18:59] <PetefromTn_> I am trying to keep up with her so I don't loose her
[21:19:15] <PetefromTn_> eventually she looses me in the turns
[21:19:29] <PetefromTn_> so I just keep driving trying to catch her
[21:19:39] <PetefromTn_> I come around this corner
[21:19:47] <PetefromTn_> and there in the road is her car stopped
[21:20:12] <PetefromTn_> her drivers door is open and she is standing there leaning against a car facing the other way talking to the driver
[21:20:21] <PetefromTn_> I come around the corner hauling ass
[21:20:25] <PetefromTn_> slam on the brakes
[21:20:37] <PetefromTn_> screech and slide into the back of her mustang
[21:20:44] <PetefromTn_> smash the shit out of it...
[21:20:56] <PetefromTn_> car goes rolling into the ditch
[21:21:14] <PetefromTn_> my jeep stops EXACTLY right where her car was stopped...
[21:21:22] <os1r1s> (This is not going in the direction I thought it was)
[21:21:45] <PetefromTn_> I look over and her and her DADDY are staring back at me dumbfounded LOL
[21:21:57] <PetefromTn_> I was like I AM SOOOOOOO SORRRYYYYY
[21:22:07] <malcom2073> Lol
[21:22:17] <CaptHindsight> I thought he was going to end up at least one kidney short
[21:22:17] <PetefromTn_> I still remember the rust coming off the back bumper as the mustang rolled into the ditch LOL
[21:22:40] * Jymmm is waiting for the shotgun to come out
[21:22:47] <malcom2073> Wtf was she doing stopped in the middle of the road?
[21:22:58] <PetefromTn_> well it was her parents in the other car
[21:23:00] <malcom2073> Rhetorical, that's pretty dumb heh
[21:23:20] <PetefromTn_> so she stopped to tell them that I was here but of course they already knew that
[21:23:21] <CaptHindsight> smashing good time
[21:23:25] <malcom2073> HAha
[21:23:28] <PetefromTn_> they were coming to thepizza shop to see us LOL
[21:23:32] <malcom2073> CaptHindsight: r8 8/8
[21:23:40] <PetefromTn_> I don't think I have ever been so embarassed
[21:23:57] <PetefromTn_> I must say that her dad was very cool about it...
[21:24:00] <CaptHindsight> hey mom and dad, look who i ran into
[21:24:06] <Jymmm> lol
[21:24:10] <malcom2073> So, after rear ending her....
[21:24:26] <PetefromTn_> he said well if she was not foolish enough to stop and park in the middle of the road you would have never hit her car LOL
[21:24:37] <PetefromTn_> hehe
[21:24:43] <malcom2073> Hah nice!
[21:24:49] <PetefromTn_> I am laughing my ass of here just thinking about it
[21:24:59] <PetefromTn_> so then I go to her parents house
[21:25:12] <PetefromTn_> and we tow her car there so we can try to fix it
[21:25:38] <PetefromTn_> I remember her parents let me stay in her big brothers room because he was out of town on vacation
[21:25:49] <PetefromTn_> and he musta been some kinda metal head or something
[21:26:09] <PetefromTn_> he had all these dark and scary metal posters on the wall that glowed in the dark
[21:26:22] <CaptHindsight> oh you kids and your crazy first dates
[21:26:24] <PetefromTn_> his room was a converted attic too
[21:26:29] <PetefromTn_> I know right
[21:26:38] <PetefromTn_> she was such a cool girl tho
[21:26:42] <PetefromTn_> we had a blast
[21:26:55] <PetefromTn_> and went all over that area for the week I was there...
[21:27:06] <CaptHindsight> not far from Philly
[21:27:27] <PetefromTn_> Probably should have married her LOL... but I met my wife a couple years later and she is kick ass so its all good
[21:27:44] <PetefromTn_> yeah I had to go thru philly to get there
[21:27:44] <CaptHindsight> sshhsss ppftt shhsss
[21:27:53] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: =)
[21:28:02] <PetefromTn_> so you guys like my story?
[21:28:08] <PetefromTn_> its all true too
[21:28:08] <CaptHindsight> if she ever read the logs
[21:28:24] <PetefromTn_> who?
[21:28:35] <CaptHindsight> your current wife
[21:28:53] <PetefromTn_> what about the logs?
[21:29:03] <CaptHindsight> nevermind
[21:29:09] <PetefromTn_> LOL
[21:30:40] <PetefromTn_> I will never forget smashing into that car tho I did not know whether to laugh or cry
[21:31:47] <CaptHindsight> they didn't seem to mind that much
[21:31:55] <CaptHindsight> I'd go with funny
[21:32:16] <CaptHindsight> it would be another story if they kept sending you repair bills
[21:32:17] <PetefromTn_> her dad was cool about it but her mom laughed
[21:32:32] <Sync> well, insurance... so #yolo
[21:32:38] <PetefromTn_> apparently it was not much of a car and they were going to get her something else
[21:33:07] <PetefromTn_> you should have seen the shower of rust coming from under the back bumper cover as it rolled away into the ditch...
[21:33:14] <CaptHindsight> how much car does a 16 y.o. need anyway :)
[21:33:26] <Sync> old k car stang PetefromTn_?
[21:33:36] <Sync> err err
[21:33:36] <PetefromTn_> my second car was a 4 cylinder mustang 5 speed
[21:33:47] <Sync> f body or what they are called
[21:33:53] <PetefromTn_> I think it was like an 85 or something
[21:33:59] <Sync> no idea wtf that shit is
[21:34:16] <Sync> ah wait, f body is gm
[21:34:27] <Sync> ah fox platform
[21:34:39] <PetefromTn_> http://s76.photobucket.com/user/mustangkidd/media/100_0301Medium.jpg.html
[21:34:44] <PetefromTn_> looks just like that
[21:34:45] <Sync> fucking cunts, why call it the same
[21:34:54] <Sync> ye fox body
[21:35:19] <PetefromTn_> my jeep wrangler sure made short work of it tho :D
[21:35:41] <Sync> :D
[21:35:43] <bobo> speaking of payback is rough . doesn't Pete have ,not 1 but two lovely daughters ? soon to be teenagers
[21:35:44] <PetefromTn_> I remember it kinda hopped under the heavy braking before it slammed into the mustang
[21:36:11] <PetefromTn_> like errr, errr, errr, er, er, SMASHHHHH
[21:37:37] <PetefromTn_> you can imagine the look on her parents face as this happened watching her car get smashed and see my jeep stop right where her car was... the mental picture still makes me chuckle even today
[21:38:25] <Sync> yeah
[21:41:30] <PetefromTn_> sucks my CNC lathe build will be put on hold for a good while during this move...
[21:43:52] <bobo> Pete what do you think the building cost/Sq.Ft would be in Florida for a 920Sq. Ft garage-shop ?
[21:44:14] <PetefromTn_> man I have no idea....
[21:44:20] <CaptHindsight> my last Mustang resto project http://imagebin.ca/v/2VXHGCiHVCZQ
[21:44:33] <PetefromTn_> woah
[21:44:38] <PetefromTn_> that is pretty nice man
[21:45:37] <CaptHindsight> then I became the guy that didn't have time to finish them
[21:46:33] <PetefromTn_> I unfortunately have many unfinished projects....
[21:46:54] <PetefromTn_> sometimes my wife gets mad at me when I decide to start a new one LOL
[21:49:00] <bobo> sorry CaptHindsight --liked your 62 Chev truck more than a mustang. but that is just me
[21:51:54] <CaptHindsight> the truck was after the Mustang
[21:52:09] <PetefromTn_> C10?
[21:58:01] <os1r1s> CaptHindsight Pretty. I have a 1967 coupe.
[22:00:52] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.ca/v/2VXMOM1bUJHu
[22:01:33] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.ca/v/2VXMaWy5H7fH
[22:01:41] <PetefromTn_> yup C10
[22:02:31] <CaptHindsight> had a big block with lots of HP, had a hard time keeping the front wheels on the ground
[22:05:41] <CaptHindsight> http://image.hotrod.com/f/37527325+w660+h495+cr1/mscp-1964-pontiac-gto-buried-treasure-01.jpg I'd like to find one and keep it looking original but have lots of modern parts and convenience
[22:08:14] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: fiberglass kit on a rolling chassis?
[22:08:33] <PetefromTn_> nice
[22:08:42] <CaptHindsight> steel body is fine
[22:08:45] <os1r1s> CaptHindsight I had a 66 Chevy Nova with a 400 small block
[22:08:50] <os1r1s> It had a similar challenge.
[22:09:01] <os1r1s> The 67 is a 289 put out to 302
[22:09:35] <CaptHindsight> I worked mostly on GM
[22:10:51] <CaptHindsight> Chevy, Olds, Pontiacs, 1959-1974
[22:13:22] <PetefromTn_> Well Gn8 folks
[22:13:48] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: original body with something like a turbocharged V8 and 6 speed automatic
[22:14:01] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: =)
[22:14:35] <os1r1s> CaptHindsight I've been really tempted to drop a modern motor/trans/suspension in my 67
[22:14:41] <CaptHindsight> resue the factory dash and controls but hide new gadgets behind them
[22:15:18] <CaptHindsight> I drove the old iron well into the 00's
[22:17:08] <CaptHindsight> the problem then becomes that you can't park it anywhere
[22:17:19] <os1r1s> Why?
[22:17:23] <CaptHindsight> idiots and door dings
[22:17:30] <os1r1s> Yeah ... that is true
[22:17:37] <CaptHindsight> or sliding across you to get out of a parking spot
[22:17:44] <os1r1s> I put dashcams in my tesla for that reason
[22:18:07] <CaptHindsight> with anti-ding lasers?
[22:18:23] <os1r1s> No. But it records motion and or any bumps
[22:18:33] <os1r1s> So I see them pull in/back out/etc
[22:19:25] <os1r1s> It ain't perfect, but its something :)
[22:19:38] <os1r1s> Door dings drive me crazy
[22:20:28] <CaptHindsight> in the city your bumper is used to slide their car in and out
[22:20:47] <os1r1s> CaptHindsight NYC?
[22:20:50] <CaptHindsight> you're better off just greasing them
[22:20:55] <CaptHindsight> Chicago
[22:21:03] <CaptHindsight> but most big cities
[22:22:07] <CaptHindsight> I'd come out of a place in the city and somebody would be using the truck as a seat or leaning on it
[22:22:32] <CaptHindsight> you can't have anything nice
[22:24:34] <Crom_> CaptHindsight, I mainly had air cooled... Corvairs, VW's and the odd Datsun
[22:25:43] <Crom_> Loved my '67 Datsun 411 1189cc 4spd
[22:26:27] <CaptHindsight> wow air cooled
[22:26:55] <Crom_> Problem with Tesla's is my wifes tends to rip holes in them with our hitch
[22:27:39] <CaptHindsight> a friend had a similar year Datsun and he cut the top off for the summer
[22:28:57] <Crom_> did that with a '62 corvair and welded the doors shut
[22:29:23] <CaptHindsight> was it watertight as well? :)
[22:30:27] <Crom_> Tubbed the the back tires, re drilled the axles and brake drums for 5 lug and used it at Pismo Beach
[22:30:47] <Crom_> it would have been water proof if I glassed the rusted out floor boards
[22:31:03] <CaptHindsight> my problem now is finding decent made replacement parts for cars only 10 years old
[22:31:17] <CaptHindsight> wheels bearings are all crap
[22:31:37] <Crom_> yep... China Bearings are crap.
[22:31:48] <CaptHindsight> I'd pick up a used car and perform preventative maintenance...
[22:32:07] <Crom_> if it's metric you can posibly find a decent German bearing
[22:32:12] <CaptHindsight> I stopped replacing bearings until they go bad
[22:32:33] <CaptHindsight> might get 20K miles on crap or less
[22:33:02] <Crom_> last car I bought for $900 went for 100K
[22:34:29] <CaptHindsight> as long as it's not rusty or German
[22:35:30] <CaptHindsight> I picked up a Passat with a jumped timing belt for next to nothing. I couldn't believe the prices for parts
[22:36:23] <CaptHindsight> good thing I found a complete engine and trans for $250
[22:37:11] <CaptHindsight> I think they wanted like $1500-$2k for a set of valves and a head
[22:37:14] <Crom_> so true... Just got a '95 Honda Odyssey for $2500... well see how long it lasts, though we know it's had perfect maintenance over it's life, which is why I spent so much on it
[22:38:31] <CaptHindsight> I'll get 1 million miles out of my Land Cruiser
[22:39:02] <CaptHindsight> figure it will take me 40 years
[22:39:03] <Crom_> had a 84ish Shiracco <sp?? cheaper to get a Microbus in decent shape then fix that thang
[22:40:31] <Crom_> bbiab --~~~
[22:40:41] <CaptHindsight> I'm off
[22:40:45] <CaptHindsight> hasta banana
[22:43:46] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: and pineapple too!
[22:46:25] <Crom_> banarama is only a duo now.. later CaptHindsight