#linuxcnc | Logs for 2016-01-26

[00:16:09] <bobo__> zeeshan!2: FS Small Swedish Abarboga radial arm drill $1000US Ontario Canada Started by SBAER, 01-08-2016 08:04 PM
[00:17:45] <bobo__> zeeshan!2 he is " also going to sell the Hermle universal mill "
[02:33:38] <Deejay> moin
[06:02:11] <jthornton> WOW I finally got wheezy installed with uspace and preemt-rt 4.4 and the servo thread latency is cut in half
[06:05:11] <XXCoder> nice
[06:05:15] <XXCoder> 50% is FAT cut
[06:05:45] <jthornton> hmm up to 45k now was at 18k
[06:06:07] <jthornton> but that pc has never been good enough to run linuxcnc
[06:06:55] <XXCoder> run 4 glxgears
[06:07:02] <XXCoder> google youtube HD test video
[06:07:04] <XXCoder> run it
[06:07:26] <XXCoder> open virtualbox and boot up windows xp or something
[06:08:38] <XXCoder> last one probably not needed heh
[06:08:46] <jthornton> lol
[06:08:58] <jthornton> next is to get the 7i92 to talk to the pc
[06:10:54] <jthornton> and I have proven the instructions in the manual work )
[06:13:10] <XXCoder> cool
[06:13:59] <jthornton> I think it took me a month to get this far lol
[06:14:16] <XXCoder> youre moving faster than me heh
[06:15:05] <jthornton> trying to download wheezy the debian site kept sending me to jessy and I would download that by mistake
[06:16:26] <XXCoder> heh annoying
[06:17:14] <jthornton> oh very annoying for sure
[06:55:14] <zeeshan|2> jt did you do the hole test??
[06:55:32] <archivist> he bent his probe
[06:56:16] <XXCoder> too much probing
[06:56:19] <XXCoder> see doctor
[06:56:25] <beikeland> is there any pros/cons to using a single pci card with two parallel ports, versus to pci cards? (if pci slots are not an issue?)
[06:56:48] <Tom_itx> i doubt it
[06:56:59] <archivist> depends on the chip set on the parallel card
[06:57:02] <XXCoder> you might have to resolve address conflict
[06:57:09] <XXCoder> not too sure on that
[06:57:38] <XXCoder> though parallel isnt complex and one card can easily handle both ports and cook dinner at same time
[06:57:45] <XXCoder> unless you buy too cheap
[06:58:04] <jthornton> lol debian wheezy you double click on a pdf and gimp opens it up
[06:58:07] <beikeland> i did buy cheap, and they didn't work, got a PCI 9865 with two ports
[06:59:10] <jthornton> zeeshan|2: yea but it was a pretty rough id so it varied by 0.005" then I bent the probe while jogging with the mpg
[06:59:29] <beikeland> just wondering if i should get another for the "to play with" setup or try to find two individual cards that also work.
[06:59:31] <Tom_itx> oops
[07:00:33] <jthornton> tripping the probe while jogging tosses up an error but does not stop the jog...
[07:01:24] <XXCoder> forgot what i bought on parallel card but it was recommanded
[07:01:26] <Tom_itx> run it thru an 'and' gate maybe to stop it
[07:02:29] <beikeland> yeah, the one i got now had the recommended moschip, as opposed to eBay saying it has linux support, which it kinda didn't
[07:02:39] <jthornton> and wheezy won't open any file from the nas you have to copy it to the pc first lol
[07:05:58] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, are you just testing?
[07:06:47] <Tom_itx> or looking for another os
[07:06:48] <jthornton> testing what?
[07:07:32] <Tom_itx> preempt
[07:08:43] <jthornton> I have a 7i92 that I'm testing
[07:08:56] <jthornton> it runs on uspace in preempt
[07:09:41] <MrSunshine> ough with more rigidity comes more problems ...
[07:14:54] <jthornton> not having any luck setting up the network with a fixed ip
[07:21:14] <Tom_itx> https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
[07:28:43] <jthornton> I have onboard network and a pci network card but only the pci card shows up as eth0
[07:30:08] <Tom_itx> is the other one configured as eth1?
[07:32:14] <jthornton> dang onboard was not enabled... wonder if that is the problem
[07:32:44] <Tom_itx> very likely
[07:34:49] <Tom_itx> later..
[07:35:18] <jthornton> k
[07:41:43] <jthornton> ok mesaflash found the 7i92 I'm off to the shower
[07:54:28] <_methods> jthornton: i had an issue with network shares also until i mounted the network share
[07:54:49] <_methods> eventually i added the share in fstab so i didn't have to mess with mounting it manually anymore
[07:59:17] <_methods> is the default file manager thunar?
[07:59:20] <_methods> i can never remember
[07:59:54] <_methods> whatever it is, when i tried to mount the share using the default file manager i could see the files but if i tried to open them they would just be blank
[08:00:51] <_methods> i tried to force thunar to access the smb share as guest but for some reason i don't think it was, i think it was trying to access the share as the current user
[08:01:12] <_methods> and that was causing permission issues, i believe
[08:01:51] <_methods> mounting share like this fixed the issue
[08:01:53] <_methods> mount -t cifs //FILE-SERVER-IP-ADDRESS/public /local/mountpoint -o user=nobody
[08:03:41] <zeeshan|2> jthornton: noooooo
[08:03:42] <zeeshan|2> lol
[08:05:36] <_methods> oops sorry
[08:05:43] <_methods> mount -t cifs //FILE-SERVER-IP-ADDRESS/public /local/mountpoint -o user=guest
[08:11:20] <JT-Shop> where is fstab?
[08:11:26] <_methods> /etc/fstab
[08:11:38] <_methods> you'll want to word it diff than that though to place in fstab
[08:11:43] <_methods> that's just to manually mount the share
[08:12:42] <_methods> //servername/sharename /media/windowsshare cifs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[08:12:53] <_methods> that's what your fstab stanza should look like
[08:13:16] <_methods> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[08:15:48] <JT-Shop> thanks, I'll give that a try in a moment
[08:16:00] <_methods> np
[09:18:25] <jthornton> servername is nas?
[09:20:08] <_methods> servername is your servers ip or hostname
[09:20:20] <_methods> assuming you have dns configured correctly on your home network
[09:20:27] <_methods> if not just put your ip there
[09:21:36] <_methods> // /media/yourmountyoucreated cifs guest, uid=1000,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[09:21:44] <_methods> as an example
[09:21:59] <_methods> you need to create a mount point for the share
[09:22:37] <_methods> so mkdir /media/mountdirnameyouwant
[09:22:48] <_methods> obviously you can place the mount wherever you desire
[09:22:53] <_methods> does not need to be in media
[09:24:15] <jthornton> if I do I have to give a password and it opens up the nas manager
[09:24:37] <jthornton> I'll try that
[09:24:39] <_methods> ah so it's not configured for guest
[09:25:03] <_methods> if it's not configured for guest you need to use your pw and username
[09:25:23] <_methods> //servername/sharename /media/windowsshare cifs username=msusername,password=mspassword,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm
[09:25:53] <_methods> i don't know if you need the ntlm on there for a nas smb share
[09:26:13] <_methods> //servername/sharename /media/windowsshare cifs username=msusername,password=mspassword,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0
[09:26:16] <_methods> oops forgot the 0 0
[09:26:34] <beikeland> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Steppers_With_Encoders <-- mentions a sample .hal file; but its not present on the wiki. Is there anywhere to find such an example?
[09:29:37] <jthornton> _methods: I'll have to mess with it when I get back from town
[09:29:43] <jthornton> thanks for the help
[09:30:59] <_methods> yeah np
[09:31:31] <_methods> i'm not sure what the deal is but it's something in thunar/xfce/cifs/gvfs
[09:31:51] <_methods> i think i even tried installing gigolo to mount the smb share and had the same issue
[09:32:16] <_methods> i eventually just gave up and mounted my share in fstab lol
[09:32:32] <_methods> once i saw that mounting it manually fixed the file issues
[09:33:51] <MrSunshine> https://www.facebook.com/system2/videos/10153870668803648/ progress so far atleast, tho it did stall very shortly on Y axis :/
[09:42:02] <MrSunshine> i guess i could lower the accelerations as 2.7 seems to cope with keeping the speed up ALOT better than 2.6
[09:51:40] <Roguish> MrSunshine: are your machine's axes an Vee Guide Wheels?
[09:51:59] <MrSunshine> mm
[09:52:18] <Jymmm> km
[09:52:19] <MrSunshine> so it jumps around some at high accelerations/fast stops :/
[09:53:53] <Roguish> MrSunshine: like these? http://www.modernlinear.com/linear-motion-parts/
[09:55:35] <MrSunshine> yeah looks like the same typ .. its double row berings .. tho ive ground the rails myself
[09:56:04] <Roguish> ok. good use. I am the ModernLinear engineer.
[09:56:12] <MrSunshine> oh =)
[09:56:24] <Jymmm> $15-$28 each?! OUCH
[09:56:53] <MrSunshine> it all sits by its own weight only, and i guess there in lies my problem .. + flex in the guide system over to the other side of the machine putting some twist in everything when it stops hard
[09:57:27] <Jymmm> MrSunshine: how is it stopping "hard" ?
[09:58:03] <MrSunshine> to high accelerations i guess :P
[09:58:15] <Roguish> Jymmm: those prices are not really too bad. you can find comparable units for less, and for a whole lot more.
[09:58:36] <MrSunshine> mine are vxb or whatever they are called
[09:58:39] <Jymmm> MrSunshine: I know a solution ;)
[09:58:51] <MrSunshine> Jymmm: realy? :P
[09:59:13] <Roguish> MrSunshine: that's a dynamics problem. remember F = M * A
[09:59:32] <Roguish> if A is high, so is F.
[09:59:41] <MrSunshine> tho i hear something is acting up with the screws still as the sound from the ballnut changes as it moves over the screws ... and frekkin chinese screws not 100% straight =)
[10:00:02] <MrSunshine> thing is that without high accelerations stuff almost comes to a halt when taking corners etc
[10:00:40] <Jymmm> MrSunshine: Yep... DONT DO THAT... https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rWdcVo6zIYI#t=22
[10:01:10] <Roguish> and vibration: freq == sqrt( k / m ) where k = stiffness (N/mm) and m is mass, (== is proportional)
[10:01:59] <Jymmm> Roguish: What is r?
[10:02:28] <Roguish> r? in which equation?
[10:02:40] <Jymmm> above
[10:02:52] <MrSunshine> no r in any of them? :P
[10:03:07] <Roguish> no r in any equation.
[10:03:44] * Jymmm snickers
[10:03:46] <Roguish> frequency is proportional to the square root of the stiffness divided by the mass
[10:04:38] <Jymmm> IF you are gonna toss maths in so damn early in the morning, I'm gonna give ya shit about it =)
[10:05:02] <Jymmm> you fuck with my head, I'm gonna fuck with yours =)
[10:05:05] <Roguish> okie dokie, more coffee.....
[10:05:16] <MrSunshine> haha :P
[10:05:33] <Jymmm> e=mcHammer
[10:17:54] <MrSunshine> would a stepper be more prone to stalling when microstepping say 1/10 compared to 1/5 ?
[10:18:51] <pcw_home> Probably less prone to stalling (less ringing)
[10:19:17] <MrSunshine> yeah true but the torque at the given points would be less
[10:19:36] <MrSunshine> so with a big mass that moves on a high pitch lead screw i guess that could end up moving the motor? =)
[10:19:58] <Jymmm> MrSunshine: Do your drivers have mid-band compensation?
[10:20:02] <pcw_home> no, the torque is the same
[10:20:08] <MrSunshine> dont think so
[10:20:25] <Jymmm> That would help BIG TIME
[10:20:37] <pcw_home> even 256 ---> 1 has the same torque
[10:20:56] <Jymmm> MrSunshine: Geckos and OEM750's do that I'm aware of
[10:21:15] <MrSunshine> yeah but cant realy afford to buy new drivers =)
[10:21:38] <archivist> MrSunshine, a steeper (moves further) ballscrew will need more drive torque
[10:21:44] <pcw_home> microstepping does not reduce stall torque at all
[10:22:03] <Jymmm> Well, they stall, you destroy the work, buy new material, would pay for them.
[10:22:08] <MrSunshine> archivist: yeah i know =)
[10:22:40] <Jymmm> MrSunshine: what drivers do you have?
[10:22:43] <pcw_home> but it does reduce resonance so can reduce stalling
[10:23:13] <Jymmm> pcw_home: I've never seen microstepping help prevent stalling myself.
[10:23:18] <MrSunshine> Jymmm: MSD980 i think is the name of them
[10:23:35] <MrSunshine> http://www.motioncontrolproducts.com/drives/msd980-high-power-microstepping-drive.php
[10:23:39] <pcw_home> people that believe microstepping reduces torque misunderstand the isssues
[10:23:51] <archivist> reduce acceleration till is stops stalling, reduce some more to allow for cutting load and safety factor
[10:24:45] <MrSunshine> archivist: mm
[10:25:20] <archivist> watching a stepper not move at all when microstepping slowly sure tells me it lacks torque per step
[10:25:54] <pcw_home> sure but the stall torque is the same
[10:28:02] <Jymmm> MrSunshine: Even with the $60 shipping, that's a pretty god price AND includes the heatsinks... http://www.ebay.com/itm/PARKER-COMPUMOTOR-OEM750-STEPPER-MOTOR-DRIVER-OEM-750-DRIVER-/251773686665
[10:28:09] <Jymmm> good*
[10:28:34] <Jymmm> Do NOT get the OEM650's
[10:28:57] <archivist> the "at speed" , "mid speed near resonance" and "slow stepping" conditions are so different
[10:29:20] <pcw_home> peak torque is still when rotor is 90 electrical degrees from stators magnetic vector regardless of ustep ratio
[10:29:27] <Jymmm> MrSunshine: Oh nm, they seller is mucking with us
[10:29:31] <Jymmm> that*
[10:31:27] <Jymmm> MrSunshine: Dude.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PC-pakrer-OEM750-xhg42-/281902237462
[10:31:56] <Jymmm> oh fark.... again. bastards
[10:32:19] <Jymmm> If you show a pic of 6 units, I expect 6 units!
[10:32:30] <Jymmm> especially when used
[10:32:50] <MrSunshine> haha
[10:34:55] <Jymmm> MrSunshine: Hey, that is exactly how I might mine years ago... 6 drives and 4 motors
[10:35:01] <Jymmm> bought*
[10:35:14] <maxcnc> Hi
[10:35:21] <Jymmm> MrSunshine: $200 and free shipping
[10:35:27] <maxcnc> pcw_home: good news all up and running
[10:36:03] <maxcnc> erant gave me the tip by POST operation Diagnostics on the 5i25
[10:36:29] <maxcnc> with the phonix Bios given error i went to fujitsu service
[10:36:46] <maxcnc> and they maild me a bios update that is not on the net
[10:37:13] <maxcnc> and Wonder happens in heven all 5 testet PC up and runing on 5i25
[11:18:13] <Erant> I need a way of getting chips out of some of my deeper cuts. I don't really need coolant (though I'm not opposed to it). How are those $10 mist coolant blocks from eBay?
[11:18:31] <Erant> I mainly just need a sustained jet of air, I probably won't hook up the coolant for a while.
[11:21:05] <beikeland> i use a cheap 12v vacuum pump and run the exhaust over to the cutter 3 or 4mm plastic tubing. pump mountet on z axis to reduce preasure drop in tubing. works better than nothing on my plastic chips at least
[11:22:44] <Erant> Yeah, I'm trying to dig steel chips out of a pocket.
[11:23:17] <Erant> So I'm getting a compressor (need one for the shop anyway)
[11:23:20] <Jymmm> Nitrogen tank, no regulator, GUARANTEED to remove chips =)
[11:23:40] <Erant> I do have some CO2 cartridges...
[11:23:41] <ssi> ug I had to buy a nitrogen bottle and regulator recently and it was way more expensive than I'd hoped :/
[11:23:52] <ssi> the regulator was like $300 :(
[11:23:52] <Jymmm> http://www.banggood.com/Mist-Coolant-Lubrication-Spray-System-Metal-Cutting-Engraving-Machine-Cooling-Sprayer-p-987371.html
[11:24:11] <Erant> I don't particularly enjoy the prospect of diggin the chips out of my eyeballs though.
[11:24:21] <Erant> I've been there once.
[11:24:25] <Erant> It was no fun.
[11:24:40] <Erant> Safety goggles for all the things was the lesson learned there.
[11:25:16] <Jymmm> http://www.harborfreight.com/adjustable-face-shield-46526.html
[11:25:47] <Erant> Hehe, yes. I have some decent safety specs. They keep the hot metal out of the squishy bits.
[11:26:27] <Jymmm> ssi: $20 craigslist
[11:26:50] <Erant> Jymmm: I like that mist unit. Unlike the ones on eBay it has a seperate knob for coolant and air...
[11:27:10] <ssi> Jymmm: not many 1000psi nitrogen regulators on craigslist sadly :/
[11:27:45] <Jymmm> ssi: 1000 in, or 1000 out?
[11:27:48] <ssi> 1000 out
[11:28:05] <Jymmm> why even bother with a regulator?
[11:28:15] <ssi> because I need adjustability from 20-1000
[11:28:24] <ssi> for filling anything from tires to oleopneumatic struts
[11:28:34] <Jymmm> at 1000?
[11:28:37] <ssi> yeah
[11:28:43] <Erant> Damn
[11:28:48] <Jymmm> what uses a 100 much less 500?
[11:28:50] <ssi> struts with weight on wheels take quite a bit of pressure to inflate to the correct extension
[11:28:52] <Jymmm> 1000*
[11:29:11] <ssi> it takes about 350-500psi to do light airplanes, like 1500lb empty
[11:29:12] <Erant> That's a scary amount of pressure
[11:29:32] <Loetmichel2> *brrr* just refilled the car with 3 liters of Motor oil... NOW its at minimum. And the last time i did the same was last week. about a liter oil on 100km drive... seems i have to bring the Car to the mechanic. AGAIN... :-(
[11:29:33] <Erant> Having seen truck tires assplode...
[11:29:47] <Erant> Loetmichel2: Are you leaking, or burning?
[11:29:56] <ssi> Erant: for inflating big jet tires we use a safety cage before inflating
[11:30:05] <ssi> incase the bolts fail and wheel halves separate
[11:30:16] <Erant> ssi: I don't doubt that those can kill a couple of dudes.
[11:30:40] <Jymmm> Erant: HF Face Shield to the rescue!!!
[11:30:49] <Erant> Probably several sticks of TNT in those tires.
[11:30:50] <Erant> Haha
[11:31:00] <ssi> yeah they're deadly
[11:31:02] <Erant> "I'll be fine, I've got a faceshield!"
[11:31:18] <ssi> "Stand back everyone, I'm about to lower my faceshield!"
[11:31:18] <Erant> It's rubber, it bounces, what's the worst that can happen...
[11:32:10] <Loetmichel2> Erant: if i judge by the growing black patch on my parking lot at the company: leaking
[11:33:03] <Jymmm> Erant: "what's the worst that can happen..." Ummmm.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rWdcVo6zIYI#t=22
[11:34:27] <ssi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyzg6y7fqGQ
[11:34:28] <ssi> lol
[11:34:40] <Loetmichel2> ssi: i have seen 15/21" tyres from Tatra trucks where the bolts failed at inflation and threw the Ring THRU the roof. 2 times
[11:34:58] <ssi> yep, lot of energy in those tires
[11:35:06] <ssi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_nEjROUCcc
[11:35:08] <Loetmichel2> one hole with the debris outwards and one hole with the debris inwards
[11:35:55] <ssi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds17MDRB2DE
[11:36:03] <Loetmichel2> "a lot of energy" is a "slight" understatement ;)
[11:36:18] <ssi> :)
[11:38:15] <Loetmichel2> we are takling 400lbs rim+rubber.
[11:38:27] <ssi> yeah
[11:38:49] <ssi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TWAR1KtYJU
[11:39:17] <Loetmichel2> ... that "jumped" out of the 3 story high workshop. destroying the eternit roof... and doing the same on the way back down ;)
[11:44:31] <Loetmichel2> and it wasnt the rubber that failed
[11:45:24] <Loetmichel2> only 6 of the bolts on the split ring were tightened, the rest was missing
[11:45:28] <Loetmichel2> BAD IDEA ;)
[11:46:10] <Jymmm> Loetmichel2: nothign duct tape cant fix.
[11:47:19] <ssi> Loetmichel2: yeah aircraft wheels are two part, and the small ones like on my planes have three 1/4" bolts holding the halves together
[11:47:24] <ssi> overinflation usually makes the bolts fail
[11:47:59] <renesis> duct tape unmelts steel
[11:53:31] <gregcnc> http://www.ebay.com/itm/371514977634? I got a couple of these same one as banggood link above. Seems like it should work, haven't tried yet.
[11:53:56] <CaptHindsight> another reason not to fly, on planes
[11:54:27] <gregcnc> more people drving around on underinflated tires ready to kill you
[11:55:03] <CaptHindsight> cars don't destroy skyscrapers :)
[11:55:18] <gregcnc> ban them fro the children
[11:56:11] <CaptHindsight> oh thats good, self driving cars might kill the auto insurance industry...
[11:56:39] <CaptHindsight> but since they still have tires that can kill you there is hope for the survival of that industry
[11:59:24] <Sync> aha. yeah it is vicky, thought so
[12:01:53] <gregcnc> more solidworking today
[12:06:06] <CaptHindsight> http://datatree3d.com/software/ anyone else try this broken turd?
[12:06:28] <CaptHindsight> used to be http://www.envisionlabs.net/
[12:07:53] <archivist> rofl Resin Management via RFID
[12:09:57] <CaptHindsight> open version here https://github.com/mUVe3D/Marlin-mUVe1DLP-Running
[12:12:40] <CaptHindsight> "management" 3rd party lockout
[12:15:20] <cradek> haha, in my dialect "simplistic in use" doesn't have the connotation they want
[12:15:26] <cradek> do they mean "easy to use"?
[12:16:01] <CaptHindsight> it feels a lot like Sugar, the gui they used on the one laptop Per Child
[12:16:11] <CaptHindsight> big icons
[12:16:12] <cradek> > In a manner that simplifies a concept or issue so that its nuance and complexity are lost or important details are overlooked.
[12:16:23] <cradek> ok yeah, it's not just me
[12:17:58] <CaptHindsight> "with no big words and with easy to read text"
[12:19:36] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: You know you want it!
[12:19:43] <CaptHindsight> what I still find ridiculous about the hobby SLA printers is that they just shoot for having a liquid that turns solid upon exposure to light, there's no concern over the practicality of the materials
[12:20:35] <CaptHindsight> it's like selling lathes and mills that only work on very soft alloys or cheese
[12:20:50] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: What, you want liquid titanium printing?.
[12:21:08] <archivist> just want fitness for use
[12:21:59] <CaptHindsight> the use seems to be "rigid enough to hold itself upright" and nothing more
[12:22:11] <archivist> they just want your money
[12:22:48] <archivist> fads and the idiots that follow them
[12:22:59] <Jymmm> archivist: And Shrek cheese sculptures aint good enough? http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/galleries/2011/11/26/cheese-sculptures-kate-middleton-elvis-and-more-photos/jcr:content/image.img.2000.jpg/1355940015876.cached.jpg
[12:23:40] <CaptHindsight> looks Gouda to me
[12:23:53] <maxcnc> hi _
[12:23:59] <Erant> maxcnc: Glad the POST stuff worked out. What was the problem in the end?
[12:24:01] <archivist> I did beans on cheese on toast for dinner
[12:24:29] <maxcnc> Erant: the bios itself failed
[12:24:38] <Erant> I've done that before. "I need to finish this thing, but I should eat..."
[12:24:46] <Erant> maxcnc: Do you remember the POST?
[12:24:57] <Erant> I'm just curious, fine if you don't.
[12:25:08] <maxcnc> 04
[12:25:18] <maxcnc> CMOS bad
[12:25:55] <maxcnc> i had to find a old Floppy drife to get within no system at all the thing done
[12:26:11] <maxcnc> it has a junper for that behavier
[12:27:18] * Jymmm smacks maxcnc with an 8" floppy drive - all 20lbs of it!
[12:27:23] <maxcnc> it took about 5min from floppy then the pc startet to make noice as a devel
[12:27:58] <maxcnc> after reboot i did all the ACPI stuff and all power managment again and up weve been
[12:29:01] <Erant> maxcnc: Yeah, 04 is REAL early on.
[12:29:25] <Erant> Glad you got it fixed.
[12:30:11] <Erant> Also nice that they were willing to help
[12:30:42] <maxcnc> in the net the version is from 2011 and i got one of 2014
[12:31:05] <maxcnc> also the Fan euns more smooth
[12:31:19] <maxcnc> its a total different behavier
[12:33:01] <maxcnc> now i got 70+ PC for 2Euros etch that can handel the mesa
[12:33:32] <Erant> Wow
[12:33:34] <Erant> Nice
[12:33:46] <Jymmm> maxcnc: You know that mesa board is being discontinued, right?
[12:33:56] <Erant> The 5i25?
[12:34:01] <maxcnc> yes
[12:34:10] <maxcnc> it also got a pci/E
[12:34:17] <FinboySlick> Jymmm: You got a spare 2Gbps of bandwidth lying around?
[12:34:33] <Jymmm> FinboySlick: sorta kinda, what for?
[12:34:43] <FinboySlick> Need to test a newly deployed link.
[12:35:26] <Jymmm> FinboySlick: How about 100Gbps?
[12:35:55] <Erant> FinboySlick: I can hit it with about 10GBps in theory.
[12:36:07] <Erant> Or at least, I can in a little bit
[12:36:20] <Jymmm> 10GigaBYTES huh?
[12:36:43] <Jymmm> Erant: 10GigaBYTES huh?
[12:36:50] <Erant> The keys are like right next to each other...
[12:36:54] <Erant> Gbps...
[12:37:03] <Jymmm> ok, just checking =)
[12:37:35] <pcw_home> Ha! sheep ate all the leftover chili I put out for the chickens
[12:37:55] <FinboySlick> I'm interested.
[12:38:08] <Jymmm> pcw_home: lol
[12:38:14] <FinboySlick> On phone now, will give details in a moment.
[12:38:57] <Jymmm> FinboySlick: No worries, DDOS you in 60 seconds... 58... 54...
[12:41:23] <ReadError> anyone running a J1900 ?
[12:41:47] <ReadError> seems I may have something a bit off, jitter isnt looking too great
[12:42:30] <Jymmm> ReadError: Not the quickest thing it seems... http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+J1900+%40+1.99GHz
[12:42:53] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: maybe it was too spicy for the chickens
[12:42:54] <Jymmm> ReadError: you want a box to test/play with?
[12:44:32] <pcw_home> Chickens like spicy ( or it doesn't bother them, not sure)
[12:44:52] <Jymmm> pcw_home: no salava glads, doens't bother them
[12:45:09] <Jymmm> pcw_home: give em ghost peppers, no big deal
[12:45:29] <maxcnc> Jymm it wil make the 35.000steps per second you need for a highspeed cnc
[12:45:46] <maxcnc> on the 6i25
[12:45:47] <pcw_home> Yeah Ive heard parrots like hot peppers
[12:46:03] <ReadError> Jymmm yea but others have reported good results w/ the j1900
[12:46:12] <ReadError> so im just wondering if there is some magic settings
[12:46:17] <ReadError> isolcpus etc
[12:46:27] <maxcnc> Did pete servive the smowstorm
[12:46:54] <Jymmm> ReadError: It can also depend on the n/s chips and bios
[12:47:24] <maxcnc> yeah bios is a main factor for low latency
[12:48:34] <Jymmm> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-dc7900-SFF-Intel-Core-Duo-2-E8400-3-00Ghz-2GB-Ram-DVD-DRIVE-No-Hard-Drive-/272095421723
[12:48:44] <CaptHindsight> depending on outside interest I wonder how often latency issues on Intel are due to the out of band Management Engine?
[12:49:15] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: isn't that on server boards primarily?
[12:49:21] <Jymmm> or an "add in" ?
[12:49:37] <maxcnc> Fujitsu Pc arent available in the usa the Siemens ones
[12:49:47] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: nope it built in on all silicon now for security from you
[12:49:52] <FloppyDisk5_25> Jymmm: I just bought two of those w/ some ebay sellings lasts night... 2 for $59 and free shipping:-)
[12:50:13] <Jymmm> FloppyDisk5_25: Yeah, it's really quick too
[12:50:14] <CaptHindsight> it operates out of band for remote access
[12:50:22] <FinboySlick> Erant / Jymmm : Is this a link you have control over and could give me an iperf/netperf socket to connect to, or are you just looking into a botnet sort of deal?
[12:50:23] <FloppyDisk5_25> Need hardrives now. One for linuxcnc and one for zonefinder.com.
[12:53:08] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: http://www.slideshare.net/codeblue_jp/igor-skochinsky-enpub
[12:53:54] <maxcnc> pcw_home: when wil the 5i25 run out of stock soon or within the year
[12:54:38] <pcw_home> ummm Jymmm was just teasing you
[12:55:03] <maxcnc> oh realy bad boy
[12:56:26] <maxcnc> as i got sutch a good img DD over to the new pc and you are up for millng
[12:57:01] <maxcnc> on parport ;-)
[12:59:32] <maxcnc> Q Someone came in here yesterday with a whear ini setup from mashinekit is there a differnet gui on top of axis
[12:59:47] <Jymmm> maxcnc: dd is SO slow
[12:59:56] <maxcnc> some distributers do there own layout maybe
[13:00:18] <maxcnc> Jymmm: what to use insted on 10.04
[13:00:32] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: and NOW you know why I keep a working 486 around ;)
[13:01:07] <Jymmm> maxcnc: I have used this for years http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage
[13:02:04] <Jymmm> maxcnc: particularlly "partimage" and dd ONLY to save the MBR
[13:02:12] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: where you store all your top secret egg salad recipes?
[13:02:46] <maxcnc> i see
[13:03:01] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Actually chili recipe.
[13:03:28] <maxcnc> i think i might give the new CD from the homepage linuxcnc with the new kernel a chance
[13:03:39] <Jymmm> maxcnc: I can not tell you how much that has/can save your ass as well as sanity
[13:04:01] <Jymmm> maxcnc: It even has a PXE server
[13:07:29] <Jymmm> maxcnc: I had base images, full images, for over 30 different make/models of pc/laptops. I could have a sytem up from a raw hdd in about 19-22 minutes.
[13:08:47] <maxcnc> im not quicker and not slower on that
[13:09:38] <Jymmm> I dont know what you said but here's a bunny with a pancake on its head.
[13:24:34] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Just finished the slides... fuck me, that's a REALLY bad.
[13:26:10] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: I've suspected such things since the "v-chip" came out, but I never expected it to be THAT bad.
[13:37:57] <maxcnc> Gn8
[13:48:33] <FinboySlick> Jymmm: I'm getting 3-4 serious attempts to punch exploit this specifically every day on this network.
[13:50:10] <Jymmm> FinboySlick: Be sure to use a $39 firewall/router =)
[13:51:30] <Jymmm> FinboySlick: Most take the mentality of "open till closed", I've always preferred "closed till opened".
[13:53:24] <FinboySlick> Jymmm: Well, we don't firewall for our customers but yeah. None of that gets exposed on our end.
[13:53:37] <FinboySlick> I'm still waiting on that iperf socket, btw.
[13:54:03] <Jymmm> Got $15?
[13:54:08] <FinboySlick> Sure.
[13:54:41] <Jymmm> FinboySlick: http://buyvm.net/openvz-vps/
[13:55:30] <Jymmm> FinboySlick: and a choice of coasts too =)
[13:55:50] <FinboySlick> Jymmm: Amazon was a bit cheaper :P
[13:56:01] <Jymmm> than $15/year
[13:56:04] <Jymmm> ?
[13:56:29] <Jymmm> $1.25/month?
[13:56:30] <FinboySlick> Oh, hadn't looked at the smallest one.
[13:57:02] <Jymmm> Get three, east coast, west coast, and across the pond.
[14:11:26] <FinboySlick> Jymmm: You use their service?
[14:56:58] <Jymmm> FinboySlick: Not yet
[14:59:02] <PetefromTn_> Hey folks
[15:00:34] <beikeland> so when using parallel port as EPP with datalines as inputs; is there any convention to add pull ups or pull downs to the data lines? Or just match whatever i want to drive them?
[15:01:23] <witnit> welp, ive done did it now. I told a manufacturer of retrofit attachments for production machinery that i was into emc linux and that i had converted some old screw machines into cnc. He popped down to see what i was all about and was very very very very excited to see these machines running on opensource code, now he wants me to build controls for his attachments.
[15:01:37] <witnit> Im not sure where this is going to take me, but it's going to be a fun ride :)
[15:01:57] <enleth> witnit: sounds great
[15:02:34] <PetefromTn_> yeah you're screwed now man hehe
[15:03:05] <Jymmm> witnit: Just watch your rates/billing, and be sure to get paid on a regular FREQUENT basis, and not just at the begining and end of project(s).
[15:04:14] <enleth> witnit: ask them if they're OK with documenting the whole process online, get a Yi Camera or two and record while tinkering with the test machines
[15:04:53] <witnit> oh yeah he was extremely concerned about me taking my knowledge elseware
[15:04:53] <enleth> even with no commentary, that would be invaluable for everyone doing retrofits, just to see someone else attempting that - and, yes, also making mistakes along the way
[15:05:04] <enleth> ah, bummer
[15:05:38] <witnit> he seemed to be a very honorable guy
[15:05:42] <enleth> well, maybe you can talk him out of this - having a good video documentation of the process is invaluable for debugging
[15:05:51] <witnit> well no, not that part
[15:05:56] <witnit> he wants it all opensource
[15:06:11] <enleth> ah, that's cool
[15:06:27] <witnit> we talked about how important it is to each of us that this unit is something anyone with ambition is free to improve
[15:07:01] <witnit> he has very forward thinking in the realms of keeping all things available to his customers for tweaking
[15:07:57] <enleth> that sounds like he'd be OK with showing the process - think about it
[15:08:44] <witnit> yes showing the process of course, but he was more concerned with me taking the work hard coding it and hiding the process than anything
[15:10:29] <Jymmm> winOh, in that case, be sure to use hardware crypto dongles that call home before it even powers up ;)
[15:10:33] <witnit> see he comes from an area where his line of work was backed into a corner by a major manufacturer and now the manufacturer with its monopoly is trying to force its customers into an even deeper grasp. he is offering an opensource alternative and is very adamant about it staying that way
[15:10:41] <Jymmm> witnit: ^^^
[15:10:42] <witnit> I think i explained that properly :)
[15:10:56] <Jymmm> witnit: in that case, be sure to use hardware crypto dongles that call home before it even powers up ;)
[15:11:02] <witnit> ahhaha rigth
[15:11:20] <witnit> after 1 million cycles stop flash error and a phone number to call for service lel
[15:11:44] <Jymmm> you mean ten, not million.
[15:11:54] <witnit> yeah
[15:12:08] <PetefromTn_> http://i.imgur.com/Udj0dkf.jpg :D
[15:12:26] <Jymmm> And it autocalls for tech at a $4000 "convienance fee"
[15:12:34] <Jymmm> + actaul service call fee
[15:12:36] <witnit> wow thats so sexy its almost an NSFW photo
[15:12:54] <witnit> im so sick of planned obsolescence
[15:13:06] <Jymmm> heh
[15:13:30] <Jymmm> witnit: I won't go there
[15:13:37] <_methods> man RIP Abe Vigoda
[15:13:53] <_methods> been a rough start to the year for famous people
[15:14:14] <PetefromTn_> yeah that sucks..he was pretty funny actor
[15:17:36] <Sync> I don't know any of those actors
[15:18:28] <Sync> PetefromTn_: holy shit those plates are massive
[15:18:42] <ssi> abe vigoda has been on borrowed time for twenty years
[15:19:13] <ssi> so much so that this website has been a thing for a long time
[15:19:13] <ssi> http://isabevigodadead.com
[15:19:45] <FinboySlick> PetefromTn_: Your handiwork?
[15:23:17] <PetefromTn_> what plates?
[15:23:39] <PetefromTn_> FinboySlick yeah this is one of the RX7 turbo kits we have been working on at the race shop
[15:24:10] <_methods> did you do all that welding PetefromTn_
[15:24:13] <_methods> looks gud
[15:24:28] <ssi> PetefromTn_: looks great man
[15:24:32] <_methods> so secksay
[15:25:02] <PetefromTn_> yeah I did all the fabrication and Tig welding on those
[15:25:29] <PetefromTn_> Its not toxic fab but it is getting there I think...
[15:25:51] <FinboySlick> PetefromTn_: Nice work. But I guess it still won't make zeeshan regret putting a V8 in his.
[15:26:57] <PetefromTn_> heh no
[15:27:13] <_methods> you did the welding with teh ltec?
[15:27:34] <FinboySlick> Now make me supercharger for my duratec35 ;)
[15:27:54] <_methods> hey PetefromTn_ can you do me a favor and take a pic of that fitting where the gas goes into the ltec
[15:28:06] <_methods> i need to find that fitting for mine
[15:29:44] <PetefromTn_> yeah used the Ltec
[15:29:59] <witnit> beikeland: im not very knowledgeable but maybe you can dig something from here which can help http://retired.beyondlogic.org/epp/epp.htm
[15:30:17] <_methods> it's like a manifold or something where the gas goes in to the welder right?
[15:30:50] <_methods> looked like the original block was some sort of T
[15:30:59] <PetefromTn_> I don't remember its just a rubber hose going into the side of the machine but I am not there right now. It is at work and I am home eating a sammich LOL
[15:31:11] <_methods> it's cool i'm in no rush
[15:31:24] <_methods> if you get a chance though i'd appreciate it if you could take a pic of that
[15:31:29] <_methods> mine is missing
[15:32:17] <PetefromTn_> well actually I have to go back and work late tonight on the 3 rotor manifold so I will try to remember to snap a pic.
[15:32:26] <_methods> thx
[15:32:58] <CaptHindsight> anyone try the Everlast Tig welders?
[15:33:07] <PetefromTn_> that 3 rotor manifold is insane.. crazy bends and twists
[15:33:19] <Sync> oh, it is a rotary again
[15:33:25] <Sync> I was confused why the manifold looked like that
[15:33:30] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: is everlast home depot?
[15:33:33] <PetefromTn_> CaptHindsight My Brother in laws son has the Everlast Tig and he LOVES it..
[15:33:54] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: they carry some at Home depot now
[15:34:13] <PetefromTn_> His the 250DX I think it was called
[15:34:23] <witnit> the first time i ever tig welded was on 1/16th wall aluminum tubing for a robot i was building in Highschool. built two 5' tall robot frames felt like i was soldering with a sewing machine pedel :P
[15:34:29] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: k, thought I recognised the (re)brand name
[15:34:44] <CaptHindsight> http://www.everlastgenerators.com/catalog-tig
[15:34:58] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: do you know which model he got?
[15:35:01] <PetefromTn_> his is apparently an early one that had the knobs everywhere the new ones have digital stuff
[15:35:56] <PetefromTn_> http://www.amazon.com/Everlast-PowerTig-250EX-Welder-Inverter/dp/B0081BEULK I am pretty sure it is this one...
[15:36:31] <CaptHindsight> ah was looking at the next size up http://www.everlastgenerators.com/product/tig-stick/powertig-315lx
[15:36:48] <Sync> they are all the same internally
[15:37:04] <Sync> they are a mess but easy to repair
[15:37:14] <CaptHindsight> mess how so?
[15:37:37] <Sync> they are developed around parts floating around cheap in china
[15:37:46] <CaptHindsight> the usual
[15:37:56] <PetefromTn_> they are chinese machines and generally poo pooed by the blue and red crowd but many that have them love them
[15:37:57] <Sync> so they are cluttered with strange analog circuits that would make no sense everywhere else
[15:38:10] <Sync> they are good machines after all
[15:38:15] <Sync> but the constuction is strange
[15:38:53] <CaptHindsight> Sync: si same power supply and IGBT but just different front panel and features?
[15:38:59] <CaptHindsight> si/so
[15:38:59] <PetefromTn_> I considered getting one pretty hard before I found my Ltec for a good price locally... I would like to have some of the features they have
[15:39:17] <Sync> they are modular
[15:39:20] <Sync> let me take some pictures
[15:39:23] <Sync> mine is open right now
[15:39:38] <CaptHindsight> it's hard to find a used Blue/Red around here that is still in decent shape
[15:39:57] <CaptHindsight> people run them into the ground and then want $4k for it
[15:39:57] <PetefromTn_> hehe I was just going to ask you if you were commenting about them from what you heard or if you actually ever used one...LOL
[15:40:36] <PetefromTn_> CaptHindsight really? There always seems to be a blue older machine on craigslist around here for under 1k
[15:40:44] <_methods> yeah i scored that ltec for $200 after i sold the other welder that i got in the bundle at teh auction
[15:40:48] <_methods> i couldn't turn that down
[15:41:21] <_methods> i ended up paying more for the foot pedal than the welder
[15:41:29] <PetefromTn_> My Ltec is a sweet machine. If I was a more accomplished Tig welder I doubt there is anything it really could not do very well.....
[15:41:45] <_methods> what are you using for shield gas on yours
[15:42:00] <PetefromTn_> just argon
[15:42:08] <_methods> 100% argon?
[15:42:17] <CaptHindsight> http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/tls/5416372600.html sort of in the area
[15:42:18] <PetefromTn_> no problems with power on this beast so no need for any Helium
[15:42:23] <PetefromTn_> yeah 100
[15:42:27] <_methods> k
[15:42:27] <CaptHindsight> Miller Syncrowave 180
[15:42:33] <_methods> i'll have to steal a tank from work lol
[15:42:51] <_methods> i still need to get a torch
[15:44:06] <PetefromTn_> I have an WP17F air cooled torch
[15:44:12] <CaptHindsight> http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/tls/5404613273.html MILLER SYNCYOWAVE 351 isn't this just the power unit?
[15:44:19] <_methods> that's the flex head right?
[15:44:21] <_methods> you like that?
[15:45:45] <PetefromTn_> yeah it is the flex head model. It CAN come in handy but honestly the pyrex cups and whatnot have made more difference in my ability to get into tight spots than anything else
[15:46:13] <PetefromTn_> but there are certain situations where being able to bend that handle a bit makes the impossible possiible
[15:46:40] <_methods> k i wasn't sure if i would like the flex head but maybe i'll reconsider that
[15:47:22] <CaptHindsight> http://racine.craigslist.org/tls/5369394313.html Miller Welder Maxtron 450 - $1500 450 amps @ 100 percent duty cycle,
[15:48:01] <PetefromTn_> its not real flexy. it is pretty rigid but you can bend it when you need to. it is basically a big coiled bronze or brass spring inside the head where a brass tube would be in the non flex head models.
[15:48:55] <PetefromTn_> perhaps spring is not the correct word....it is a heavy gauge coiled tube inside the rubber that allows you to bend it a little bit yet maintain contact
[15:48:55] <Sync> PetefromTn_: I can only compare my inverter to the esab in the institute, and it works equally well
[15:49:14] <PetefromTn_> Sync I don't doubt that honestly
[15:49:24] <PetefromTn_> as I said I ALMOST bought one myself
[15:49:29] <Sync> yeah
[15:49:31] <Sync> mine was cheap, so eh
[15:49:45] <PetefromTn_> I am actually considering getting one anyway as a backup.
[15:49:58] <_methods> do you think you'd rather have a wp-9 than the 17?
[15:50:29] <PetefromTn_> I am hoping to be able to get work in Florida with the Tig and fabrication as well as continuing my CNC stuff once the machines are installed and working
[15:50:41] <t12> oh nice
[15:50:44] <PetefromTn_> honestly I have never had a 9 so I cannot say.
[15:50:45] <t12> i should try pyrex cups
[15:50:57] <PetefromTn_> t12 these work quite well
[15:51:22] <_methods> i guess i'll just get a 17
[15:51:28] <_methods> seems to be in the middle
[15:51:31] <PetefromTn_> http://i.imgur.com/CeS5fAr.jpg
[15:51:44] <t12> cup just sits on an o-ring?
[15:51:53] <t12> and it looks like a metal ring in front?
[15:53:21] <PetefromTn_> http://www.dogfab.com/FURICK_CUPS.php
[15:53:27] <PetefromTn_> This is what I am currently using
[15:53:39] <DaViruz> cna you see trough them while welding?
[15:53:53] <DaViruz> maybe that's the whole point
[15:54:08] <PetefromTn_> yeah absolutely it really helps
[15:54:26] <PetefromTn_> we have all three models but I mostly use the 12 fupa
[15:54:48] <PetefromTn_> the only thing that sucks is you gotta be careful with them they are a bit fragile.
[15:54:53] <PetefromTn_> I already broke two
[15:55:18] <DaViruz> i think i need to pick up a few, seems very useful
[15:55:27] <PetefromTn_> they come with a metal protection ring that helps but I mostly take it off.
[15:55:49] <PetefromTn_> If you have a number 17 torch you have to buy a kit to install the brass head to accept the cups.
[15:56:03] <PetefromTn_> I don't know about other torches
[15:56:04] <CaptHindsight> _methods: ever use these? http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/tls/5404613273.html SYNCYOWAVE 351
[15:56:34] <PetefromTn_> well gotta get my azz back to work talk later guys...
[15:57:00] <_methods> we have syncrowave 350's at the shop
[15:57:02] <_methods> not 351
[15:57:15] <CaptHindsight> yeah I know the 350's
[15:57:27] <_methods> i'm not familiar with teh 351
[15:58:09] <CaptHindsight> heh and a Miller 450 for $1500
[15:59:16] <CaptHindsight> all these oddball models
[16:12:00] <CaptHindsight> wow the MIller 351 new is $8k
[16:18:38] <CaptHindsight> Sync: so would you buy it again?
[16:18:55] <Sync> yes
[16:26:12] <CaptHindsight> what am I missing here, the 315A model is less than the 210 or 255A model?
[16:27:24] <CaptHindsight> http://tinyurl.com/jd8wppr
[16:38:36] <Deejay> gn8
[16:38:43] <Jymmm> DaViruz: gn9
[16:38:46] <Jymmm> bah
[16:38:51] <Jymmm> Deejay: gn9
[16:39:01] <Deejay> tabfail ;)
[16:39:05] <DaViruz> Jymmm: gn10
[16:39:17] <Deejay> ^^
[17:00:25] <CaptHindsight> _methods: http://phasenoise.livejournal.com/1500.html OpenWrt Turns a $14 Card Reader Into the Smallest Wireless AP
[17:08:32] <enleth> jeez, this spreads fast
[17:10:36] <CaptHindsight> http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/16/01/26/1430201/openwrt-turns-a-14-card-reader-into-the-smallest-wireless-ap
[17:11:26] <enleth> CaptHindsight: I was wondering how long it'd take for someone at a channel I'm on that's not related to the Warsaw Hackerspace to post this
[17:11:33] <enleth> less than a day it is
[17:12:04] <enleth> also, /. was faster than hackaday
[17:13:13] <enleth> our server is running red hot at the moment but so far it's been holding up pretty well with all the traffic it gets
[17:19:12] <kengu> hmm.. i thought this was yesterdays news.. but seems to have some momentum left :)
[17:20:50] <enleth> kengu: it took off slow and then gained more speed at some point
[18:03:29] <CaptHindsight> enleth: _methods seems to work with boards and modules like this
[19:05:36] <_methods> yeah i love those little boards with openwrt
[19:33:00] <Duc> Anyone have experience with adding a linear scale to the knee on a bridgeport mill
[19:40:29] <enleth> Duc: just for positioning or for active use during machining?
[19:40:45] <Duc> just positioning
[19:41:07] <Duc> I may use the knee later on for tool offset but not for active milling
[19:43:23] <enleth> I haven't done this yet but I imagine this heavily depends on the amount of sag your machine gets when unclamping the knee
[19:45:29] <enleth> those magnetic scale read heads really hate any rotation during use
[19:46:49] <Duc> I will admit that I rarely clamp the knee when machining
[19:47:24] <Duc> how about glass scales?
[20:00:54] <enleth> no idea - never used linear glass scales
[20:12:55] <Duc> A few timess I have lost track of how much I dropped the table
[20:37:53] <Jymmm> alex_joni: Plan on making a new music player? http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot-Sale-Smart-Electronics-1pcs-KY-040-Rotary-Encoder-Module-Brick-Sensor-Development-Board-for-arduino/32341633440.html
[22:23:37] <strokercrate> hello
[22:37:03] <FloppyDisk5_25> how do you clear a g7 (radius mode for lathe)?
[22:37:09] <FloppyDisk5_25> especially when I have a MILL..
[22:37:17] <FloppyDisk5_25> accidently typed it into mdi.
[22:37:46] <FloppyDisk5_25> When I did a G55 g1 x-5.25, it went half way, which would seem to make sense if I was doing radius mode (half way I guess).
[22:42:51] <zeeshan|2> you cant use g7
[22:43:03] <zeeshan|2> unless you have you ini setup wrong
[22:43:08] <FloppyDisk5_25> I would agree, but when you look at the gcodes '
[22:43:11] <zeeshan|2> make sure you dont have a line in there that says
[22:43:15] <zeeshan|2> "LATHE = 1"
[22:43:27] <FloppyDisk5_25> I shouldn't, this was a pncconf for a mill.
[22:43:52] <FloppyDisk5_25> I wouldn't think you could use a g7 at all. My fumbly fingers accidently did that - doh.
[22:44:13] <FloppyDisk5_25> Let me check the ini... I can do that from in the house:-)
[22:44:14] <zeeshan|2> well its either g8 or g7
[22:44:14] <zeeshan|2> lol
[22:44:19] <zeeshan|2> so change it back to g8
[22:44:19] <zeeshan|2> :P
[22:44:36] <FloppyDisk5_25> I was thinking of going to g8, but you're right, i shouldn't have either, I would think...
[22:45:34] <zeeshan|2> honestly
[22:45:41] <zeeshan|2> ive never tried doing those 2 commands on the mill
[22:45:44] <zeeshan|2> but i'd think it'd error out
[22:45:50] <zeeshan|2> linuxcnc is pretty picky :P
[22:46:32] <FloppyDisk5_25> I was hoping I would. I sure get the error when trying to move a G1 at F0... hehehe....
[22:46:38] <zeeshan|2> hehe
[22:48:16] <FloppyDisk5_25> Hmm, I hvae TASK=milltask, no LATHE in either my main hal file or INI file.
[22:48:17] <FloppyDisk5_25> COORDINATES = X Y Z
[22:49:22] <FloppyDisk5_25> I would have restarted, but didn't want to re-indicate position (lazy). So, I'll move where I need to be and restart...
[22:49:45] <FloppyDisk5_25> restart linuxcnc, that is...
[22:53:31] <zeeshan|2> hm
[22:53:31] <zeeshan|2> :P