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[02:29:31] <Deejay> moin
[04:59:05] <XXCoder> boo
[05:22:50] <jthornton> ha
[05:22:57] <XXCoder> whats up
[05:23:16] <archivist> whats down
[05:23:23] <jthornton> I'm up
[05:23:35] <XXCoder> whats middle
[05:24:12] <archivist> the adapter in my saw blade I just made
[05:25:52] <jthornton> got a photo
[05:29:18] <XXCoder> ice ice video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl8VcL0DNio
[05:30:36] <XXCoder> yes theres some cnc
[05:33:30] <XXCoder> pretty simple one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNJg1jtLF4U
[05:38:59] <XXCoder> weird
[05:39:03] <XXCoder> dry ice blasting
[05:39:05] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_2KG4gOV20
[05:39:11] <XXCoder> pretty cool I guess
[05:40:39] <archivist> no pic, the camera is hiding today, but the saw now cuts aluminium as well as wood :)
[05:40:50] <XXCoder> nice
[05:40:52] <jthornton> nice
[05:41:33] <XXCoder> dry ice blasting works on removing smoke from books. nice since it isnt water it wont damage
[05:42:53] <archivist> ye gods what sillyness the sudden cooling will break stuff
[05:43:24] <XXCoder> depends on what as many stuff they show being blasted dont change anything besides cleaner
[05:43:37] <XXCoder> including cnc machine gummed up parts
[05:43:53] <XXCoder> and other use was removing dangerous lead paint off
[05:48:17] <archivist> sudden cooling is what cracks carbide tooling
[05:48:39] <XXCoder> didnt see any carbide tools being dry ice blasted
[05:48:43] <XXCoder> not a surpise
[05:54:31] <XXCoder> http://www.amazon.com/Generic-Tablet-TALKING-Bluetooth-GPS-Black/dp/B00MFF9XHY
[05:54:36] <XXCoder> amazing screen qualty.
[06:26:55] <jthornton> there calling for a high of 70°F Saturday
[06:27:47] <XXCoder> 40s and 30-s at end of prediction here
[06:27:54] <XXCoder> feels like 20f in my room
[06:28:12] <XXCoder> actual 61f
[06:45:02] <jthornton> even though python 3.0 was released in 2008 LinuxMint 17.2 (latest one) still has python 2.7.6...
[07:07:37] <gregcnc> http://5me.com/cryogenic-machining/explore-cryogenic-machining/
[07:10:15] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRYkV_x76g
[07:10:26] <XXCoder> this video loves wolf eyes a lot :P but interesting
[07:12:25] <XXCoder> ADD type video too
[07:13:23] <Tom_itx> Few Clouds 47°F high 66°F turing cold Thur evening
[07:13:33] <Tom_itx> and that's the jthornton morning weather report.
[07:15:15] <jthornton> lol
[07:15:39] <jthornton> got it done yesterday :) now for a little caulk and lots of paint
[07:15:56] <Tom_itx> bet you're glad to get it all up
[07:17:10] <jthornton> that is a load off me and an empty bay in the garage finally
[07:19:33] * jthornton is having fun building deb's
[07:25:06] <fiesh_> jthornton: every meaningful system installs both python2 and python3 since they aren't compatible
[07:25:23] <fiesh_> without knowing LinuxMint, I'd bet anything they also have python3
[07:26:31] <jthornton> meaningful?
[07:27:11] <jthornton> sure enough python brings up 2.7.6 and python3 brings up 3.4.3
[07:29:56] * jthornton should write a relative arc generator for Gene
[07:33:20] <Jymmm> jthornton: Animals included?
[07:35:09] <Jymmm> jthornton:
https://img0.etsystatic.com/037/0/9077727/il_fullxfull.565084336_6ncm.jpg
[07:58:55] * JT-Shop doesn't understand Jymmm
[08:01:43] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: 2015-12-10.05:05:35 jthornton should write a relative ___arc generator___ for Gene
[08:03:30] <JT-Shop> but first I must fix the lights in the garage
[09:08:44] * JT-Shop found something he has not seen in a long while
[09:09:09] <ssi> ?
[09:09:19] <archivist> the table top
[09:10:11] <ssi> ah yes, that rare and elusive creature
[09:15:25] <_methods> they exist?
[09:17:46] <JT-Shop> the garage floor
[09:20:10] <vexation> forgot what that looks like
[10:03:44] <zeeshan> >:) nice jt
[10:08:10] <ssi> blah
[10:11:49] <zeeshan> hi ian
[10:11:50] <zeeshan> :P
[10:11:54] <zeeshan> what are you upto
[10:16:26] <ssi> work :'(
[10:18:46] <zeeshan> hehe
[10:18:48] <zeeshan> same here
[10:19:06] <ssi> I've been moving this week
[10:19:09] <ssi> moving into a new apt
[10:19:19] <ssi> I have real internet at home now
[10:19:20] <ssi> it's a miracle
[10:20:20] <archivist> house not done yet?
[10:20:45] <ssi> not entirely
[10:20:48] <ssi> but I'm not moving back there
[10:21:11] <zeeshan> why not
[10:21:25] <ssi> reasons mostly
[10:21:28] <ssi> also things
[10:22:48] <Erant> Sorry to hear.
[12:16:48] <maxcnc> Hi all what a nice day of milling here in Germany weather is so fine for the Dezember month
[12:21:07] <DaPeace> aus welcher ecke von germany bist du? ;-)
[12:21:25] <maxcnc> ZweibrĂĽcken
[12:21:40] <DaPeace> ah ok :-D ich wohn im nachbarland
[12:21:57] <maxcnc> da gibts viele von mir aus
[12:22:04] <DaPeace> *g* österreich
[12:22:05] <DaPeace> tirol
[12:22:17] <maxcnc> cool
[12:22:29] <maxcnc> is there snow at your home
[12:22:50] <DaPeace> nope. at the moment its not that much.. snowmachines are running all the time for the tourists
[12:23:12] <maxcnc> i saw it on the weather cams this morning
[12:23:26] <maxcnc> energy waste for fun
[12:23:33] <DaPeace> yes. for sure..
[12:49:31] <CaptHindsight> same in the US >15C today in the midwest
[14:01:24] <Magnifikus> anyone got ideas for an usb based remote based on a µC?
[14:01:28] <Magnifikus> got the msp430 in mind
[14:01:59] <Magnifikus> should get a small display for DTO plus buttons for pause/start jogging etc
[14:02:02] <CaptHindsight> remote what?
[14:05:50] <cradek> a lot of people are using that xhc (?) device
[14:06:02] <cradek> you might look into what it does
[14:06:08] <cradek> (I've never seen/used one)
[14:14:34] <maxcnc> i got now 20 of them
[14:14:41] <maxcnc> and it works like a charme
[14:14:59] <maxcnc> you even dont need to toch the pc from mashine power
[14:25:34] <CaptHindsight> Magnifikus: could you please make one using a stm32 microcontroller and post all the source and schematics
[14:25:49] <CaptHindsight> and try to use uwe's
http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/libopenstm32-a-free-software-firmware-library-for-stm32-arm-cortex-m3-microcontrollers
[14:26:14] <Magnifikus> i kinda hate stm32 :P
[14:26:24] <Magnifikus> and its somewhat op for that task
[14:26:34] <CaptHindsight> could you do it anyway?
[14:26:56] <cncbasher> build the one one franks workshop
[14:27:14] <Magnifikus> and im somewhat done with toolchains :D
http://thetoolchain.com/
[14:27:31] <Magnifikus> nope :P
[14:28:03] <Magnifikus> http://www.franksworkshop.com.au/CNC/LathePendant/LathePendant.htm that?
[14:28:16] <cncbasher> yep
[14:28:21] <Magnifikus> yeah something like that just smaller
[14:28:32] <cncbasher> yea it is a bit chunky
[14:28:54] <cncbasher> i use the xhc-04 , easier than making one
[14:29:13] <Magnifikus> yeah but :D
[14:29:20] <Magnifikus> http://www.ebay.de/itm/140799023462?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT this is attached to the machine now
[14:29:29] <Magnifikus> but i hate jogging with touch it sucks
[14:30:53] <Magnifikus> waaaah this fusion 360 is kinda wtf btw
[14:30:56] <CaptHindsight> what kind of a person hates stm32? :)
[14:31:01] <Magnifikus> me
[14:31:05] <Magnifikus> :P
[14:31:29] <Magnifikus> so i would need a programmer/devboard for that stuff
[14:31:39] <cncbasher> https://hackaday.io/project/230-openxhc
[14:31:41] <Magnifikus> a msp430 usb launchpad is here on my desk
[14:32:13] <cncbasher> iv'e got one never even connected it yet , and it's been their for about a year
[14:32:20] <CaptHindsight> but isn't that made by TI?
[14:32:24] <Magnifikus> cool will steal that :D
[14:32:25] <Magnifikus> yeah
[14:32:25] <andypugh> I don’t think jogging with touch is even safe
[14:32:35] <Magnifikus> the company sending me samples every month for free :D
[14:32:48] <cncbasher> no i wouldnn't trust it
[14:32:56] <cradek> use touchy!
[14:32:56] <Magnifikus> cant be worse than usb keyboard :D
[14:33:17] <Magnifikus> in want to shrink moccapy down
[14:33:23] <Magnifikus> to the 800x600 screen
[14:33:35] <Magnifikus> also i dont need alot of features on the screen, like tools etc
[14:33:39] <andypugh> Touchy + a jogwheel works nicely for me:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/WAFKZNDs8P9oZeiXKTKNANMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[14:33:59] <Magnifikus> that looks nice indeed
[14:34:16] <cradek> touchy will work fine on any size screen
[14:34:39] <cradek> (I just love those buttons)
[14:34:57] <Magnifikus> but no preview?
[14:35:15] <cradek> not in the basic configuration, but you can add a preview tab
[14:35:26] <Magnifikus> like to see the program dimensions so i wont mill into the machine top :D
[14:35:48] <cradek> I write the gcode on another machine (with a keyboard) and verify it there
[14:36:19] <andypugh> I have run Touchy at 2560x1440 through ssh (iMac display)
[14:36:27] <cradek> ha
[14:36:39] <andypugh> But adding the preview tab is straightforward, I believe.
[14:36:55] <cradek> one of our samples may even have it already
[14:38:48] <Magnifikus> also good practice for our selected students etc to verify it before pressing start
[14:38:55] <Magnifikus> its a small old isel in our lab
[15:04:11] <CaptHindsight> Magnifikus: does TI send you any parts worth using? They are always trying to get me to use older parts that nobody wants anymore.
[15:05:19] <Magnifikus> eh you go to the page and sample stuff, 3 days later you get them :D
[15:05:36] <Magnifikus> got about 20 msp430 laying here
[15:06:46] <CaptHindsight> I was happy to pay for OMAP samples and similar SOC's but they wanted me to go through some 3rd party module maker
[15:07:45] <CaptHindsight> and pay ~$150 for a module vs $20 for the SOC and make my own
[15:08:40] <Magnifikus> if i need something fast and dirty i just use a pi
[15:08:43] <Magnifikus> or an fpga
[15:08:55] <Magnifikus> and if i need something good, i use a zynq :D
[15:10:34] <Sync> I just got me some AM335x samples to decap
[15:11:49] <_methods> pics or it didn't happen
[15:11:50] <_methods> hehe
[15:13:42] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20151209-teen-3d-printed-flamethrower-drone-incinerates-holiday-turkey.html
[15:17:07] <Magnifikus> dunno im not into that stm32 stuff
[15:18:39] <_methods> i see your flame thrower and raise it one potato gun
[15:18:41] <_methods> http://imgur.com/gallery/dRbkSrG
[15:20:19] <CaptHindsight> 2 things that could sell well this holiday season
[15:20:43] <_methods> hehe
[15:20:59] <chris_99> didn't someone sell flamethrowers on KS?
[15:21:29] <_methods> sustainable flame thrower
[15:21:40] <CaptHindsight> so to be clear, assault rifle and handguns = good, flaming potato cannon or flamethrower drone = bad
[15:21:43] <_methods> in upcycled pallet shipping crate lol
[15:22:01] <chris_99> haha CaptHindsight
[15:27:08] <tiwake> CaptHindsight: spaceballs the flamethrower -- the kids love it
[15:27:49] <rene-dev_> andypugh just played with your lathe macros, is that a known feature that the spindle sometimes does not stop?
[15:28:03] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-hAo_VHEwU did you guys ever make these as kids? Tennis ball cannon from soda cans
[15:28:36] <tiwake> CaptHindsight: no, when I was young I mostly focused on rocket stuff
[15:28:46] <andypugh> Not all of the macros stop the spindle
[15:28:54] <CaptHindsight> tiwake: we made those to
[15:28:55] <tiwake> model rockets, bottle rockets, and making my own of both kinds
[15:29:19] <tiwake> graduated to making my own rocket engines
[15:29:21] <andypugh> rene-dev_: You can add an M2 to the g-code related to each routine
[15:29:26] <tiwake> then learned math to make better rocket engines
[15:29:35] <andypugh> Err. M4 I mean
[15:29:42] <tiwake> then became a machinist to make even better rocket engines
[15:29:48] <rene-dev_> I know, but sometimes it just stops automaticly
[15:29:52] <tiwake> now here I am
[15:29:53] <tiwake> lol
[15:30:05] <andypugh> Or is it M5? I can’t believe how vague I am on this :-)
[15:30:37] <rene-dev_> like g0 or g1, doesnt make much difference
[15:30:56] <FAalbers> Oohh !!
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/11/transparent-aluminum/
[15:30:59] <andypugh> rene-dev_: Most of the macros stop automatically and place the tool at the finish dimension so you can measure and touch-off to what the micrometer says
[15:31:25] <rene-dev_> they are generally working good, once I figured out that the starting position is important
[15:31:35] <andypugh> The ones that you won’t measure (like radius and chanfer) don’t bother stoppping.
[15:32:07] <andypugh> Yes, they all take starting position as an input.
[15:32:25] <tiwake> FAalbers: shiny
[15:32:37] <skunkworks> I found if you created multible sparks down the center of the chamber (potatogun) you got a bigger bang.
[15:32:41] <tiwake> FAalbers: I wonder if its a conductor of heat
[15:32:47] <rene-dev_> yes, I was dry cutting, and fun things are happening when you start in the workpiece :D
[15:32:53] <andypugh> This is important with threading if you need a second pass, you need to start from exactly the same Z. Though it does print the starting Z to make that a tad easier.
[15:33:13] <rene-dev_> ah, ok
[15:33:46] <FAalbers> tiwake,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkqiDu1BQXY
[15:34:16] <tiwake> FAalbers: why bring up star trek?
[15:34:33] <andypugh> So, that makes ordniary glass transparent silicon and perspex transparent carbon?
[15:35:45] <FAalbers> tiwake, Did you watch it ? It's about transparent aluminum :)
[15:35:56] <tiwake> FAalbers: no, I don't watch star trek :P
[15:36:10] <FAalbers> ok
[15:36:23] <tiwake> andypugh: and carbon is pretty transparent to heat and visible light
[15:37:06] <tiwake> although, dosent "glass" mean a non-structured arrangement of atoms?
[15:37:29] <tiwake> as in, not a crystal
[15:37:36] <tiwake> such as amorphous metal
[15:37:48] <andypugh> tiwake: Yes, diamond certainly is. But you would’
[15:38:10] <andypugh> wouldn’t call perspex diamond just because it has some carbon in it.
[15:38:45] <andypugh> And that “transparent alumiumium” is simply a cerramic with some aluminium content.
[15:38:53] <CaptHindsight> Aluminum Oxynitride
[15:39:02] <CaptHindsight> http://www.azom.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=8095
[15:41:45] <CaptHindsight> stops flaming potatoes as well as 50cal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnUszxx2pYc
[15:41:54] <andypugh> Sapphire is largely transparent. Nobody tries to make that sound more futuristic by calling it “transparent alumium” but it is very much transparent alumina.
[15:42:58] <CaptHindsight> it's very similar to the anodize on aluminum
[15:44:07] <gregcnc> we used soupcans and wd40 to shoot tennis balls
[15:44:47] <CaptHindsight> soda cans and lighter fluid and later hair spray
[15:46:07] <gregcnc> we never did the spud gun thing
[15:46:19] <CaptHindsight> back when chemistry sets still had chemicals
[15:48:47] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: of course current ones still have chemicals. just tame ones
[15:49:00] <XXCoder> unless you mean liquidified spacetime set? heh
[15:50:08] <andypugh> Right, off to wire a Lemo, but with my new criming tool this time.
[15:50:17] <andypugh> crimping, even.
[15:50:23] <XXCoder> LOL
https://sslimgs.xkcd.com/comics/the_three_laws_of_robotics.png
[15:51:55] <andypugh> Does anyone know what the braided shield is meant to do inside a Lemo connector?
[16:05:53] <Tom_itx> a guess.. maybe prevent crosstalk?
[16:06:19] <andypugh> No, I mean, where is it meant to go...
[16:06:22] <XXCoder> if connected at ends, probably grounding
[16:06:25] <Tom_itx> oh
[16:06:37] <Tom_itx> yeah probably to the housing
[16:06:58] <Tom_itx> is the housing metalic?
[16:07:12] <andypugh> Som connectors clearly intend the shield to be clamped between some parts, but that doesn’t seem oviously to be the case with a Lemo
[16:07:48] <Tom_itx> not familiar with that connector
[16:08:07] <andypugh> I guessed :-) But thanks for trying to help.
[16:08:39] <andypugh> This is the connector.
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CpdSZh9eV-HQPmdvKqqNK9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[16:09:50] <andypugh> Probably the nicest conector that there are.
[16:11:36] <Tom_itx> yeah i saw what you were working with the other day
[16:11:51] <skunkworks> andypugh: did you get the castings back?
[16:11:56] <Tom_itx> those look like pretty fine pins
[16:12:02] <Tom_itx> low current stuff?
[16:12:16] <andypugh> Resolver feedback
[16:12:20] <Tom_itx> yeah
[16:12:36] <andypugh> They do an enormous array of configurations, though.
[16:12:49] <Tom_itx> is it one internal shield or several?
[16:13:10] <Tom_itx> looks like something NASA would use only theirs are screw connectors
[16:13:15] <andypugh> Catalogue:
http://www.lemo.com/catalog/ROW/UK_English/unipole_multipole.pdf
[16:14:34] <andypugh> They go up to 0AWG wire and down to 30AWG
[16:15:48] <gregcnc> it seems the suggested stripping lengths would not give you much choice
[16:16:22] <gregcnc> the assembly diagram is vague
[16:18:22] <andypugh> Tom_itx: Actually, that connector is rated at 6A.
[16:18:33] <Tom_itx> gold plated?
[16:18:39] <Tom_itx> looks really nice
[16:19:07] <andypugh> Yes, gold-plated contacts. PEEK insulation and nickel-plated brass bodies
[16:19:25] <Tom_itx> not your average chinese connector
[16:21:01] <andypugh> About ÂŁ57 for each half normally, but I have been buying:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141836004296
[16:30:32] <Loetmichel2> sooo, one last beer and then bedtime ;) ->
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16068&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 (funny thing this plastic ball inside the can filled with N2 ;-)
[16:30:58] <andypugh> The “widget"
[16:31:25] <andypugh> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widget_(beer)
[16:32:36] <JT-Shop> oh crap, my web hosting is phasing out PHP 5.3 and my web store runs on it :(
[16:33:52] <JT-Shop> and the turds set it to 5.5 without asking
[16:38:21] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, does the webstore run on 5.5? or not backward compatible..
[16:38:57] <JT-Shop> no, I need to upgrade it but can't even access it now!
[16:41:05] <SpeedEvil> Possibly a vuln has been found to be being exploited?
[16:42:48] <JT-Shop> vuln?
[16:43:06] <Tom_itx> a gremlin only much worse?
[16:43:24] <SpeedEvil> vulnerability
[16:44:30] <JT-Shop> oh I need PHP 5.2
[16:45:53] <Hecke> Hi, i am new to linuxcnc and actually retrofitting a hermle uwf700cnc. Setting up the axis works pretts good. now i am looking for a possibility to integrate the electronic gearbox. its very similar to a maho700. maybe anybody has a configuration that works?
[16:49:58] <JT-Shop> there is a gear something component
[16:50:06] <JT-Shop> gear change I think
[16:50:53] <Hecke> yes, but its only for two speeds
[16:51:55] <Deejay> gn8
[16:52:01] <Hecke> i have to control three motors to set the gears. the feedback comes from switches with a bitpattern.
[16:52:02] <JT-Shop> goodnight Deejay
[16:52:39] <JT-Shop> sounds like you need to create a component
[16:54:32] <Hecke> i have searched for examples creating components, but the way to connect the component with the pins isnt clear up to know
[16:54:37] <Hecke> now
[16:55:41] <Hecke> is it correct, that the execution of the component is each time the thread, i.e. servo thread, is called?
[16:55:43] <JT-Shop> does the spindle speed requested control the gear change?
[16:56:02] <JT-Shop> yes for floating point
[16:56:55] <Hecke> thats what i want to have. there is no control module between the gearbox and the mesa card.
[16:58:25] <Hecke> so i would check the speed command and differentiate the gears
[16:59:11] <JT-Shop> so you can't change speed on the fly but from stand still only?
[16:59:23] <Hecke> correct
[17:00:54] <Hecke> i want to use a vfd to control the motor, but the gears should give me more power at the tool
[17:02:40] <Hecke> if i would do the complete gearchange in with a component, that is called every servo thread time, wouldnt it be complicated because the exection of the gearchange takes about 10-30sec and the thread is called too often?
[17:02:44] <JT-Shop> I'm just thinking about it
[17:03:07] <JT-Shop> no, you make your comp wait for complete
[17:04:45] <Hecke> ok, checking if the speed has changed will go fast and in case i could set the gears with the comp.
[17:05:32] <Hecke> by using a lookup tabel for turning the gearbox motors cw or ccw
[17:06:07] <JT-Shop> sounds plausible to me
[17:06:17] <Hecke> when i use the spindel at speed signal i could stop the g code execution until gears have changed
[17:06:25] <JT-Shop> yes
[17:08:07] <Hecke> does the comp support something like hardware timers on microcontroller? maybe i have to pulse the spindelmotor cw and ccw for a softer gearchange
[17:08:47] <Hecke> or is this only possible with classic ladder timers?
[17:10:24] <JT-Shop> I would think classicladder would be the place to do timers
[17:10:43] <JT-Shop> your component can communicate with classicladder
[17:11:16] <JT-Shop> ie set a bit on a rung to start the gear change and wait for complete then either can set spindle at speed
[17:11:58] <JT-Shop> they did fix my webstore :) now I have to upgrade
[17:12:42] <Tom_itx> good thing you like to code
[17:13:11] <Hecke> ok, seems i am on the right way. where do i connect the signals from comp., classic ladder and linuxcnc? all in the hal file?
[17:13:39] <JT-Shop> I just need to back up then install the new version.... I think
[17:13:50] <JT-Shop> yep hal is your friend
[17:14:23] <JT-Shop> some info on classicladder
http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/ladder/index.html
[17:16:22] <Hecke> thx, classic ladder seems to be very logic. i ve tried some blinking stuff and toolchange hydraulic control already, simulation works goods up to now
[17:17:15] <Hecke> where is the difference between a comp file and a cc file? i have seen examples using both, xhc04
[17:21:05] <JT-Shop> a comp file is created and installed with the HAL component generator
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/hal/comp.html
[17:21:07] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, do you know if SW lets you do dynamic sectioning?
[17:21:23] <JT-Shop> and the cc files must be compiled I think
[17:21:34] <JT-Shop> what do you mean Tom_itx?
[17:22:18] <Tom_itx> oh nm.. this isn't what i thought it was. i know how to do a sectional view in SW already
[17:22:26] <Tom_itx> looking over the catia docs
[17:22:57] <Hecke> thx JT-Shop
[17:23:36] <Hecke> i will try to get it working and you helped me a lot :)
[17:24:28] <Hecke> its already late here in krauts land and i ll got to bed :D
[17:25:50] <Hecke> gn8
[17:26:07] <JT-Shop> ok Hecke good luck
[17:32:09] <andypugh> Ah… He went
[17:32:55] <JT-Shop> he'll be back
[17:33:02] <JT-Shop> you have some info for him?
[17:33:29] <andypugh> I was just going to say that you can use fperiod in comp for a timer
[17:33:41] <andypugh> And that, actually, you can’t wait in a component.
[17:33:54] <andypugh> (unless it’s a userspace component)
[17:35:25] <JT-Shop> you could wait for an input so to speak right?
[17:35:38] <JT-Shop> if input then do something
[17:37:20] <JT-Shop> wow I've had 68k unique visitors to my web site this year
[17:38:52] <andypugh> In a realtime compu you run a state machine, that exits doing nothing until something happens, then changes state
[17:39:15] <Jymmm> andypugh: get the memo?
[17:39:33] <andypugh> Cray-2/4 824 MIPS. iPhone 5S 18200 MIPS.
[17:39:52] <Jymmm> Needs more LN2
[17:40:08] <andypugh> memo?
[17:40:21] <Jymmm> andypugh: /ms read
[17:40:42] <Jymmm> or /ms help
[17:41:13] <andypugh> “Notice from memoserve: You are not logged in”
[17:41:49] <Jymmm> 2015-12-09.17:41:29 MemoServ: The memo has been successfully sent to andypugh.
[17:41:56] <Jymmm> 2015-12-10.15:16:52 andypugh: “Notice from memoserve: You are not logged in”
[17:44:20] <andypugh> So, no, I didn’t, and can’t, get the memo
[17:48:50] <andypugh> .msg memoserv read
[17:48:55] <andypugh> Doh!
[17:52:45] <Computer_barf> i was watching a video in which someone turned some wood on a metal lathe
[17:53:03] <Computer_barf> he mentioned that he anticipated alot of people complaining about that in the comments
[17:53:06] <andypugh> Was it me?
[17:53:34] <Computer_barf> idk did you make a screwdriver on your lathe?
[17:53:53] <andypugh> No:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oye3BxqXKmw
[17:54:30] <Computer_barf> I was just wondering though, what exactly are the concerns about wood material with a metal lathe? I suppose it could make a carbon grit but i would think it would be softer than metal
[17:54:55] <andypugh> The only proplem is that the tool geometry is all wrong
[17:55:28] <andypugh> If you look at how a woodturning chisel meets the work, it is very different from a metal turning insert.
[17:55:29] <Computer_barf> ahh, he had mentioned cleaning it extra good which made me think friction objections
[17:55:46] <andypugh> The sawdust will absorb all the oil, too.
[17:55:47] <Computer_barf> i mean, obviously you could always clean your machine well for that reaon
[17:56:19] <Computer_barf> ahh yes, part of the cleanup was re-oiling the machine
[17:56:32] <JT-Shop> wood is very abrasive
[17:57:23] <Computer_barf> I wouldn't think it.. i mean lignan and fiber?
[17:57:46] <Computer_barf> moreso than say, aluminum?
[18:00:39] <Computer_barf> http://www.blog.turnedwoodenbowls.com/?page_id=485
[18:00:51] <Computer_barf> interest point there on the rust
[18:19:40] <JT-Shop> finally getting SW updated after hd crash some 6 months ago
[18:40:35] <CaptHindsight> LEMO must mean leave us all your money or similar in Swiss German
[18:41:17] <CaptHindsight> I don't think I've ever used a Lemo connector that was under $100ea
[18:42:04] <andypugh> Some of them are semi-affordable
[18:42:09] <Valen> Computer_barf: wood can have dirt in it, thats abrasive, that said eh we do it
[18:42:54] <andypugh> CaptHindsight:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/industrial-automation-circular-connectors/2048773/
[18:43:12] <andypugh> I have bought those at full price. But they are super-fiddly to sloder.
[18:43:47] <andypugh> (1/4” overall dia, 4 pins)
[18:45:00] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: we used some that combined copper with single mode fiber. Getting the fiber connected properly took a special jig and 30 minutes to polish
[18:45:33] <andypugh> Are there many alternatives, though?
[18:46:04] <CaptHindsight> we went to FCI and they made us one for 1/4 the cost
[18:54:09] <andypugh> Ah, but was it so reassuringly Swiss?
[19:01:44] <CaptHindsight> heh, the neat thing about them was that they had a wiper with a lube built in to extend the life of the contacts
[19:02:15] <CaptHindsight> every time they were inserted/removed they would get a wipe of oil
[19:04:42] <andypugh> That sounds non-ideal for an optical interconnect :-)
[19:05:11] <CaptHindsight> that was on the copper contacts
[19:05:27] <andypugh> I mainly use Lemo connectors because we use a lot at work, and I rescue lots of them from skips :-)
[19:05:49] <CaptHindsight> we had power over ethernet before it was a standard
[19:06:39] <CaptHindsight> the fiber carried video
[19:07:33] <CaptHindsight> now it would all be over GbE
[19:08:06] <CaptHindsight> this must have been in '98 or '99
