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[00:02:09] <XXCoder> finally
[00:02:17] <XXCoder> I completely that tutorial part correctly
[00:02:23] <XXCoder> last one was a mess
[00:28:03] <XXCoder> hah this design was simplier than I thought
[01:20:28] <XXCoder> wow
[01:20:29] <XXCoder> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1068443
[01:20:32] <XXCoder> pretty cool!
[01:20:43] <XXCoder> I want it.
[01:23:22] <XXCoder> http://hackaday.com/2015/10/28/we-didnt-know-the-sun-could-do-digital/#more-175461
[01:29:00] <tiwake> huh
[01:29:24] <XXCoder> its digital clock that uses no batteries
[01:29:30] <XXCoder> nor any electrics
[01:29:44] <XXCoder> day only of course but impressive nevertheless
[01:29:45] <tiwake> XXCoder: lol... that comment "1 for day and 0 for night?"
[01:30:06] <XXCoder> oh forgot comments lemm,e look
[01:30:22] <XXCoder> lol
[01:31:05] <XXCoder> it updates per 20 min
[01:31:13] <XXCoder> I wonder if it can be tightened to 10 min
[01:31:17] <XXCoder> way more channels though
[01:31:48] <tiwake> it won't work where I live very well about 1/3 of the time
[01:31:55] <tiwake> overcast, rainy
[01:31:59] <XXCoder> same. cloudy often here
[01:32:11] <XXCoder> except summer when it seems to never have any clouds
[01:32:29] <tiwake> its quite happy to rain whenever here
[01:52:06] <XXCoder> lol
[01:52:08] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pNhdeFPl60
[01:52:14] <XXCoder> anyone watched it while young?
[01:52:44] <XXCoder> love how it can morph into fast mode
[01:52:47] <renesis> yes, purple hair chick is cute
[01:54:52] <renesis> music sounds like cnc machine demo music
[01:56:15] <renesis> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLNvUsTBGyE
[01:56:20] <renesis> feer.
[01:56:41] <XXCoder> love that. also found lineups funny like its being fought on 2d space.
[01:57:19] <renesis> love how the aliens use sub-mini toggle switches for the death blossom panel
[01:57:27] <XXCoder> yeah
[01:58:20] <XXCoder> that the last starfighter movie had a lot of problems, but its still cool as hell,.
[01:58:48] <renesis> atari era shit
[01:59:10] <XXCoder> also, why why why do the chair spin in death bloom?
[01:59:18] <XXCoder> let automated stuff do it.
[01:59:26] <renesis> maybe so he doesnt get sick
[01:59:32] <XXCoder> lol maybe
[01:59:47] <renesis> the ship is spinning but he is totally stationary
[02:00:03] <XXCoder> that would mean axis of spin is center of his chair
[02:00:08] <XXCoder> in all axes
[02:02:15] <XXCoder> heh
[02:02:17] <XXCoder> http://static.gamesradar.com/images/totalfilm/t/twist-again-austin-powers-the-spy-who-shagged-me-1999-.jpg
[02:02:21] <XXCoder> I loved that
[02:02:37] <XXCoder> funny how he bumps and fails because power was still off
[02:08:12] <XXCoder> renesis:
https://youtu.be/LGVjoLlgHbM?t=54
[02:13:02] <XXCoder> dang crazy
[02:13:04] <XXCoder> https://youtu.be/FXPw-NPtq_4
[02:16:02] <renesis> ha wtffuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[02:20:11] <XXCoder> more videos lol
http://kotaku.com/mario-maker-players-are-in-an-arms-race-to-make-the-har-1739431432
[02:22:50] <XXCoder> holy crap that hacked super mario one...
[02:35:22] <anomynous> https://www.quora.com/One-day-a-girl-celebrated-her-birthday-Two-days-later-her-elder-twin-brother-celebrated-his-How-is-this-possible
[02:36:52] <XXCoder> 2 wombs
[02:36:58] <XXCoder> its possible, if rare
[02:38:28] <XXCoder> interesting read so far
[02:38:36] <anomynous> not an answer here, though, since question says elder celebrater after younger
[03:55:12] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPyFLr5k0-c&feature=youtu.be
[04:04:16] <XXCoder> anomynous: hmm its clearly time zone trick
[04:04:27] <XXCoder> if elder has later birthdate
[05:07:25] <Deejay> moin
[05:09:21] <XXCoder> hey Deejay
[05:09:43] <anomynous> theres this funny answer who gave 5 different possible reasons
[05:10:46] <anomynous> 1) leap year 2) time zone 3) converted to judaism and uses different calendar 4) is queen of england and celebrates birthday on preset date regradless of real birth day 5) was busy on actual bd
[05:10:47] <anomynous> ;D
[05:11:24] <XXCoder> http://www.pidjin.net/2015/10/22/lets-all-sing/ noooo
[05:11:49] <SpeedEvil> anomynous: simultaneuity
[05:12:35] <anomynous> what does that mean
[05:13:52] <SpeedEvil> anomynous: what the time is at a distance is not well defined.
[05:14:15] <SpeedEvil> That is - exactly when 'now' is on jupiter is not clear if you're on earth
[05:14:32] <anomynous> yet we have time zones
[05:14:45] <SpeedEvil> Time zones do not involve speed-of-light delays
[05:15:16] <anomynous> i dont believe in such theories ;D of course time flows same for everyone. Common sense says so.
[05:16:19] <anomynous> maybe speed of light just isnt a constant ;D its just so fast it looks like a constant. Hmm.
[05:16:21] <anomynous> that must be it
[05:18:10] <XXCoder> anomynous: it is constant and constant is dermined material light is in.
[05:18:29] <XXCoder> nothings faster than light ibn vacuum, unless we find something new.
[05:18:53] <XXCoder> however light in material can be quite slow.,
[05:19:07] <anomynous> but how can light go backwards. Common sense says it cant.
[05:19:45] <XXCoder> never said anything about negative speed
[05:20:13] <anomynous> negative speed! but if you go backwards you go ahead again and its positive speed!
[05:42:14] <jthornton> morning
[05:42:27] <XXCoder> hey
[05:51:48] <Deejay> hi
[06:00:43] <anomynous> Good morning, sir jthornton. How are you today?
[06:01:37] <jthornton> I'm dandy, not sure if my surname is sir or not lol
[06:03:13] <jthornton> eww it's raining again... no siding work today
[06:03:21] <anomynous> Unknown command. Use morning help for available commands.
[06:06:28] <XXCoder> lol
http://paintraincomic.com/comic/caught-jesters/
[06:09:12] <anomynous> no one wants help these days. duh. i wrote a good list of commands too
[06:36:11] <jthornton> I know, I've been waiting for help siding my shop all summer
[06:42:48] <XXCoder> send me few thousand bucks and I will help you for 2 days.
[06:42:50] <XXCoder> heh
[06:47:03] <jthornton> dang you charge more than I do
[06:47:34] <XXCoder> its because I would need to buy tool
[06:47:35] <XXCoder> s
[06:48:34] <jthornton> I need to finger out why my sort routine is failing
[07:02:15] <XXCoder> JT-Shop: what kind of sort?
[07:02:21] <XXCoder> jthornton: er
[07:07:53] <jthornton> I have a list of entities and need to sort them in order of end points
[07:09:21] <XXCoder> by X or Y pr whatever?
[07:09:35] <jthornton> and if there is no match between end point of one and start point of another then I have to do a reverse match
[07:10:09] <XXCoder> hmm
[07:10:16] <XXCoder> can always use KD tree
[07:10:19] <jthornton> http://pastebin.com/9zMuitYr
[07:10:20] <XXCoder> its amazing really
[07:10:31] <jthornton> that is a list of the end points
[07:10:34] <XXCoder> given a point it can find nearest point to it fast
[07:10:50] <jthornton> I'm coding this in go
[07:11:02] <XXCoder> lemme find library I used
[07:11:31] <jthornton> ok
[07:12:31] <XXCoder> https://github.com/rredford/LdrawToObj/tree/master/KDTreeDLL
[07:13:29] <XXCoder> this is commit where I added code so you can see specifically where I use em
https://github.com/rredford/LdrawToObj/commit/6858b2731916347066f0f053d2077e031e6cfe54
[07:14:28] <XXCoder> its pretty darn simple really
[07:14:58] <XXCoder> look for Vector3.cs that is object you will need
[07:15:02] <anomynous> jthornton, im short on free and you probably live too far away ;D
[07:15:27] <anomynous> jthornton, but if you live close to me i just may
[07:15:28] <anomynous> ;D
[07:15:37] <anomynous> what kind of a shop you have?
[07:16:09] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/shop/machine-shop.xhtml
[07:17:09] <cncbasher> you staying up late JT , or early mornngs
[07:18:16] <jthornton> I'm usually up at 5am
[07:18:30] <jthornton> rarely up after 9pm
[07:20:09] <anomynous> hardinge lathe. Don't they market specifically for hard turning?
[07:20:33] <jthornton> I have no idea
[07:20:49] <anomynous> okay ;D
[07:21:25] <jthornton> damn spammers are at it again
[07:24:33] <anomynous> aaa you have pygtk and glade tutorial
[07:24:35] <anomynous> ;D
[07:26:24] <cncbasher> yep theirs a few too
[07:27:37] <anomynous> make a python cheat sheet instead of a tutorial. The official tutorial is nice, isn't it? But good cheat sheets can just help you get going without reading too much boring stuff ;D
[07:29:37] <jthornton> you can do that for me
[07:33:37] <anomynous> :]
[07:34:12] <anomynous> i dont need one anymore. i think.
[07:34:24] <SpeedEvil> http://imgur.com/gallery/mIgyw
[07:39:51] <jthornton> hot damn I'm down to one error
[07:45:14] <jthornton> now I have more errors...
[07:47:21] <anomynous> http://imgur.com/gallery/6SfgZBg politically correct
[08:13:05] <zeeshan> ;that's a pretty cute looking snake
[08:36:07] <jthornton> finally no errors
[08:52:53] <jthornton> interesting the start point of a line depends on how you draw it but an arc is always CCW
[08:53:14] <zeeshan> damn dxf :P
[08:53:34] <jthornton> yea
[08:54:15] <millfist> Hi problem on 5i25 7i76 I did update to 2.8 master and now a error is on hm_5i25.0.pet_watchdog does not exist
[08:54:21] <jthornton> so if it is an arc it is easy for me to switch direction but not so easy for a line
[08:54:48] <jthornton> you need to look in the manual
[08:54:56] <jthornton> things change
[08:55:12] <millfist> jt of linuxcnc or where
[08:55:20] <jthornton> yea linuxcnc
[08:55:25] <millfist> thanks
[08:55:38] <jthornton> IIRC the getting started guide
[08:55:39] <zeeshan> millfist: if you read the update
[08:55:42] <zeeshan> guide
[08:55:44] <zeeshan> it talks about this issue
[08:55:54] <zeeshan> you need to delete the line with pet watchdog
[08:55:57] <zeeshan> its no longer needed
[08:57:16] * jthornton ponders how to tell direction of a profile...
[08:57:20] <Jymmm> https://bigdaddyaddy.com/2015/10/30/high-school-teens-costume-gains-attention-around-the-world/
[08:57:45] <Jymmm> jthornton: <-- THAT WAY -->
[08:58:15] <jthornton> hmm I think I need to determine inside from outside first
[09:00:39] <millfist> zeeshan thanks
[09:00:53] <zeeshan> np
[09:01:12] <millfist> where is this update guide
[09:03:06] <millfist> Getting started i found it
[09:07:14] <millfist> Thanks to your help mashine is up and running ;-) Till the next error :-(
[09:58:52] <Tom_itx> there are a couple other minor changes you may need to make as well
[10:01:38] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, do you cut the same direction every time on the plasma?
[10:01:54] <Tom_itx> otherwise it may depend whether you are conventional or climb cutting
[10:02:06] <SpeedEvil> err
[10:02:20] <SpeedEvil> how can you possibly conventional or climb mill on plasma?
[10:02:25] * SpeedEvil may be confused
[10:02:30] <Tom_itx> different machine sir
[10:02:32] <SpeedEvil> ah
[10:02:34] <SpeedEvil> sorry
[10:02:46] <Tom_itx> dxf2gcode isn't machine specific
[10:03:09] <Tom_itx> but i kinda new it was for his plasma
[10:06:58] <Tom_itx> happy halloween PetefromTn_
[10:10:59] <PetefromTn_> Hey Tom Happy Halloween to you sir as well ;)
[10:12:17] <JT-Shop> happy All Hallows' Evening to everyone
[10:12:28] <JT-Shop> hey Tom_itx I got it to work finally :)
[10:12:36] <Tom_itx> yay!
[10:13:14] <JT-Shop> yea really YIPPIE!
[10:13:39] <JT-Shop> what plane had YIPPIE painted on the side when it rolled out of the factory door?
[10:14:31] <Tom_itx> P38
[10:14:57] <JT-Shop> dang we are old
[10:15:10] <Tom_itx> true but i didn't know :D
[10:15:16] <Tom_itx> google knows everything
[10:15:37] <JT-Shop> lol
[10:15:51] <JT-Shop> google me a place to store my sky hook
[10:16:00] <Tom_itx> remember.... it's now _what_ you know but who
[10:21:27] <PetefromTn_> never realized how many fixed toolpost options there are for lathes until I started looking for one hehe
[11:18:49] * JT-Shop needs to figure out what to do with the XY table from the comparator, it has 500mm X and Y and 10mm per rev ball screws
[11:41:18] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: pic?
[11:51:38] <malcom2073_> JT-Shop: Router
[11:52:34] <PetefromTn_> thats a good bit of travel for a comparator table
[12:21:53] <tiwake> CaptHindsight: hey, you happen to know what chemical(s) are typically used for stripping an anodizing off?
[12:23:42] <Jymmm> propane and a exothermic reaction?
[12:23:58] <Jymmm> ...and a ladel
[12:26:55] <PetefromTn_> tiwake you can use the lye etch solution to strip but it is hard on the parts/threads
[12:31:03] <tiwake> PetefromTn_: how hard?
[12:32:59] <PetefromTn_> well hard enough to make the 8-32 screws I used in a part loose enough to be unusable, had to rethread to 10-32
[12:33:16] <PetefromTn_> and I did not exactly leave it in there that long
[12:33:28] <PetefromTn_> took like five minutes or less to strip everything off
[12:33:52] <CaptHindsight> tiwake: what pete said ^^^
[12:37:49] <tiwake> I could plug the threads I suppose...
[12:39:43] <PetefromTn_> let me know with what you do because I have tried to do that unsuccessfully. I am sure it could be done tho probably some sort of heavy rubber plugs
[12:40:03] <tiwake> Sodium Hydroxide?
[12:40:13] <tiwake> no
[12:40:26] <tiwake> derp, just lye?
[12:44:20] <tiwake> ok yeah, sodium hydroxide
[12:52:52] <ssi> make up your mind! :D
[12:54:33] <tiwake> ssi: I just found out lye is sodium hydroxide
[12:54:39] <tiwake> which... kind of explains a lot
[12:55:03] <tiwake> strong base
[12:57:09] <tiwake> oh, evidently the lye from ashes is potassium hydroxide
[13:26:05] <JT-Shop> Jymmm,
http://gnipsel.com/images/fuji/
[13:27:56] <zeeshan> clean machine!
[13:37:13] <zeeshan> i really dont understand why adobe acrobat reader needs like
[13:37:16] <zeeshan> updates every 2 months
[13:37:20] <zeeshan> its a frigging pdf reader
[13:37:28] <zeeshan> i really feel like its got some silent spyware in it
[13:39:13] <pcw_home> I hate acrobat, its incredibly bloated for what it does
[13:39:31] <zeeshan> its become a standard though
[13:39:32] <zeeshan> its annoying
[13:39:35] <pcw_home> I use sumatra and its mostly OK
[13:40:18] <pcw_home> it struggles with scanned PDFs but otherwise is pretty decent
[13:41:04] <pcw_home> And dumped acrobat from all windows PCs
[13:42:50] <zeeshan> This is a regular quarterly update that provides security mitigations, feature enhancements, and bug fixes.
[13:42:51] <zeeshan> lol
[13:43:04] <zeeshan> thats the title of their last 30 releases
[13:43:11] <zeeshan> frigging scam im telling you
[13:49:50] <ssi> you know, I haven't had to use acrobat in literally decades
[13:49:59] <ssi> something about not using windows really makes my life better :)
[14:10:41] <renesis> acrobat on android is prob best pdf reader
[14:10:53] <renesis> shit hurts on desktop
[14:12:12] <fenn> "In Britain and Ireland, the tradition of going house-to-house collecting food at Halloween goes back at least as far as the 16th century, as had the tradition of people wearing costumes at Halloween."
[14:12:33] <fenn> thus i conclude andypugh is a codger
[14:13:22] <renesis> fuckers should have been at home doing homework and studying
[14:14:02] <SpeedEvil> fenn: It has not existed in the UK in living memory
[14:15:43] <malcom2073_> fenn: You needed that to come to that conclusion? :P
[14:22:49] <ssi> pcw_home: I'm reading through the sslbp docs in the 7i77 manual, and I came across "note to the bewildered"
[14:23:00] <ssi> I'm glad you have awareness of how lots of us feel trying to digest this stuff :D
[14:23:37] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: You could make a cnc router from it;
[14:24:10] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Just use spare parts you have on hand, if nothing else, then sell it
[15:47:53] <JT-Shop> I kinda pondered making a router from it
[15:49:56] <XXCoder> zeeshan-lab:
http://www.sumatrapdfreader.org/free-pdf-reader.html better one for windows.
[15:52:09] <fenn> mupdf
[15:54:43] <JT-Shop> tried to fill out a pdf form with SumatraPDF and it doesn't have that function
[15:56:35] <XXCoder> yeah still better than abode pdf
[15:56:59] <XXCoder> it depends on needs I suppose
[15:57:02] <JT-Shop> I wonder if any will let you fill out a form
[15:57:22] <XXCoder> think foxit does
[15:57:22] <JT-Shop> not that I do that very often
[15:57:28] <XXCoder> but its not free and has adverts now
[15:57:52] <XXCoder> foxit is getting almost as bad as abode last I tried to use it
[15:58:32] <JT-Shop> thanks for the warning, when I need to I'll use the xp
[15:59:05] <XXCoder> they may have reverted dunno been a while
[16:11:14] <andypugh> I am definitely a codger, and I am going to feel more like one later, as the neighbours are having a party, but I have to be up at 5am
[16:12:41] <XXCoder> andypugh: heh
[16:14:32] <fenn> "A proper Hop-tu-Naa lantern will be a hollowed out turnip the size of a man's head, with flickering eyes and jagged mouth illuminated from within by a candle. In older times, children would have also brought the stumps of turnips with them and batter the doors of those who refused to give them any money"
[16:15:06] <JT-Shop> I'm trying to resist looking in the coolant tank of the VMC...
[16:15:59] * JT-Shop had to translate codger to American
[16:16:25] <archivist> owd codger
[16:19:00] <JT-Shop> I couldn't resist and yep it needs cleaned
[16:20:04] <XXCoder> JT-Shop: I used one pretty much exact same as that at work
[16:20:56] <JT-Shop> the bulb didn't light up when I plugged it in but he element looked ok
[16:21:38] <XXCoder> JT-Shop: wonder if can change light source to lefd
[16:21:44] <XXCoder> much longer life and better light too
[16:22:02] <XXCoder> not too sure what properies of light it requires though
[16:22:04] <XXCoder> hey zeeshan
[16:24:30] <JT-Shop> what do you measure on it?
[16:24:46] <XXCoder> typically, radius
[16:25:06] <JT-Shop> the mirrors are neat
[16:25:14] <JT-Shop> it's all apart now lol
[16:25:23] <XXCoder> lol ok
[16:25:43] <XXCoder> sometimes its also used to check sizes where tools cant
[16:30:01] * archivist wants JT-Shop's fuji toy
[16:31:58] <JT-Shop> you can have it
[16:32:22] <archivist> cannot afford the shipping.....grrrr
[16:32:28] <archivist> :)
[16:34:04] <archivist> JT-Shop, I make do with a modified citizen
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=citizen+PD
[16:35:00] <archivist> the original optics were dead
[16:37:28] <zeeshan> hi
[16:37:32] <zeeshan> mikron is back in action
[16:38:01] <zeeshan> boy finding 6mm od 1mm thickness nylon6/6 tubing was a pain to find.
[16:38:39] <XXCoder> fun
[16:41:20] <SpeedEvil> zeeshan: Somewhere I have a reel of 50m of that
[16:41:27] <zeeshan> it has to be nylon6/6
[16:41:32] <zeeshan> gotta hold 70bar
[16:42:01] <zeeshan> regular nylon can only hold 25 bar or so
[16:42:25] <XXCoder> archivist: did you cut off calipier to make that?
[16:42:36] <XXCoder> because it looks exactly like my chinese special
[16:42:48] <XXCoder> only no calipier stuff end
[16:43:04] <archivist> XXCoder, no, they are avalable like that for mounting on machines
[16:43:13] <XXCoder> oh thats cool
[16:43:38] <JT-Shop> I need to get it off the pallet and get some floor back
[16:43:52] <zeeshan> gime it! :P
[16:44:11] <archivist> XXCoder, like
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/750mm-30-Horizontal-Digital-Scale-/260812752228
[16:46:23] <archivist> mine is the 6" cheap size
[16:54:01] <zeeshan> almsot trick or treating time!
[16:54:06] <zeeshan> so much candy to give away
[16:54:11] <XXCoder> lol
[16:54:22] <zeeshan> we went a little overboard this year on candy
[16:54:23] <zeeshan> haha
[16:54:26] <zeeshan> spend 200 bux on candy
[16:54:48] <zeeshan> we're planning to give the kids who made a serious effort the big bars
[16:54:56] <zeeshan> and the silly ones the generic candy ;P
[16:55:19] <XXCoder> did you remember to bring gold bars for trump kids?
[16:55:25] <zeeshan> rofl
[16:56:15] <PetefromTn_> HOLY CRAP!!!
[16:56:21] <PetefromTn_> $200 in candy???
[16:56:32] <zeeshan> yea dude
[16:56:37] <zeeshan> it doesnt take much to get there tbh
[16:56:43] <zeeshan> if you get 24 pack of turtles fo rexample
[16:56:44] <PetefromTn_> I mean don't get me wrong I applaud your enthusiasm
[16:56:47] <JT-Shop> kids won't come up to my house lol
[16:56:48] <zeeshan> thats already 48 bux
[16:57:02] <zeeshan> PetefromTn_: i love halloween! :D
[16:57:02] <XXCoder> kids dont come in here ether, the statues eat kids
[16:57:09] <PetefromTn_> I spent like $40 and have like two huge barrels full
[16:57:11] <archivist> I managed to be out tonight!
[16:57:21] <zeeshan> how is it there archivist
[16:57:42] <JT-Shop> I used to run the neighborhood twice and some caught on so I'd change my costume for the second round
[16:57:45] <archivist> getting sillier each year
[16:57:51] <JT-Shop> and skip the cheap ones lol
[17:00:04] <PetefromTn_> we usually take the kids around to some local houses so they can actually do some trick or treating. Then we give away the candy and eat all the stuff we bought here at home LOL
[17:02:49] <zeeshan> jesus
[17:02:55] <zeeshan> couple 12-14 year olds came
[17:02:59] <zeeshan> dressed like complete skanks
[17:03:01] <zeeshan> ;/
[17:03:33] <zeeshan> lol jt
[17:03:34] <zeeshan> cheapass!
[17:03:38] <zeeshan> double trick or treating
[17:04:16] <MrSunshine> hmm how to distribute glue evenly over a surface without alot of cleanup .. (i can only do one bent lamination at a time with like 30min - 1h interval .. so a glue roller i dont know would be the thing for me
[17:04:58] <PetefromTn_> some of those small paint rollers?
[17:05:10] <PetefromTn_> spray gun?
[17:06:45] <zeeshan> PetefromTn_: how fst were you engraving
[17:06:47] <zeeshan> those logos btw
[17:06:49] <zeeshan> i forgot what you said
[17:07:00] <zeeshan> i owe this wood customer
[17:07:04] <zeeshan> 100 stainless plates w/ engraving
[17:07:08] <zeeshan> i wanna get em done fast.
[17:07:21] <PetefromTn_> not terribly fast LOL
[17:07:30] <PetefromTn_> my spindle only goes to 6k
[17:07:37] <PetefromTn_> so I ran like 5k
[17:07:42] <PetefromTn_> .030 deep
[17:07:42] <zeeshan> im got it set at .001 ipr
[17:07:43] <zeeshan> and 3000 rpm
[17:07:55] <PetefromTn_> and 10IPM I think it was
[17:08:00] <zeeshan> but only .015 deep
[17:08:11] <zeeshan> its stainless...
[17:08:15] <JT-Shop> what kind of bits are you using on stainless?
[17:08:18] <PetefromTn_> sounds slower than it actually was
[17:08:20] <zeeshan> carbide
[17:08:37] <zeeshan> 30 degree, 0.010 tip
[17:08:40] <PetefromTn_> these are carbide single point .020 tip
[17:14:29] <MrSunshine> can you dampen the wood surfaces before adding yellow/white glue to get it to spread easier ?
[17:15:05] <PetefromTn_> if you are using elmers wood glue you can thin it slightly with water
[17:16:28] <PetefromTn_> my wife is pissed because she can't figure a way to make a broom for her witch costume and we are about out of time LOL
[17:18:01] <zeeshan> use some 6061
[17:18:07] <zeeshan> and some aluminum shavings
[17:18:08] <zeeshan> !!
[17:18:08] <zeeshan> :D
[17:18:19] <PetefromTn_> hehe I have some 3/4 rod out there
[17:18:27] <PetefromTn_> but I figured it would be too heavy
[17:18:28] <zeeshan> that'd actually look cool i think
[17:18:33] <zeeshan> with the aluminum shavings
[17:18:34] <zeeshan> shiny
[17:18:39] <zeeshan> witch w/ some bling!
[17:18:49] <PetefromTn_> not happenin
[17:18:52] <zeeshan> lol
[17:21:47] <MrSunshine> PetefromTn_: casco atm
[17:22:04] <MrSunshine> tried thinning it and it seems to work .. but the plywood just soaks water so damn fast
[17:22:56] <MrSunshine> PetefromTn_: just run out and grab some branches and tie them to a stick ? =)
[17:25:14] <MrSunshine> i think its a pva glue .. seems people have been thinning it atleast but it might decrease some streght and stuff
[17:25:32] <MrSunshine> as long as the lamination just doesnt delaminate im happy, no load bearing stuff realy
[17:31:19] <MrSunshine> as water is the thinner from the start i guess it shouldnt do to much harm atleast =)
[17:33:23] * JT-Shop thinks he will try the new coolant
[17:33:29] <JT-Shop> super brand
[17:33:43] <zeeshan> ever heard of qualichem?
[17:33:50] <JT-Shop> no
[17:34:04] <zeeshan> my friends left it on his machine for 3 months
[17:34:08] <zeeshan> and it didnt rust
[17:34:49] <JT-Shop> I don't have rust with my current coolant but I get floating colonies of white stuff lol
[17:35:05] <zeeshan> haha
[17:35:06] <JT-Shop> and it changes color after a while from blue to drab green
[17:35:09] <zeeshan> damn bacteria
[17:36:00] <JT-Shop> even in the bucket after a while it changes color lol
[17:38:15] <zeeshan> must be vegetable oil derieved
[17:38:18] <zeeshan> what is the brand?
[17:38:42] <zeeshan> jt give me some advice
[17:38:49] <zeeshan> i got a plan on doing this machining a certain way
[17:40:02] <JT-Shop> ever since I started collecting CNC machines I've used Val Cool VP Tech
[17:40:14] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/ZWeK56Q.png
[17:40:17] <zeeshan> .1094 thick
[17:40:26] <zeeshan> i gotta do 2 dinky little dimples in em
[17:40:29] <zeeshan> ss304
[17:40:52] <zeeshan> im thinking of putting on a set of soft jaws and holding 6 of em
[17:41:04] <zeeshan> since my jaws are 6" wide and these are .75" wide
[17:41:16] <zeeshan> actually that aint gonna work
[17:41:28] <JT-Shop> are you machining the whole part?
[17:41:37] <JT-Shop> brb water boy time
[17:43:26] <zeeshan> no
[17:43:28] <zeeshan> just the 2 dimples
[17:44:16] <PetefromTn_> MrSunshine actually I went to the dollar store and bought her a cinammon broom and cut off one of my old yard tools with a wooden handle for the stick
[17:44:54] <MrSunshine> noble of you to cut of a tool =) should atleast get you layed tonight ;)
[17:45:10] <PetefromTn_> one can only hope ;)
[17:45:54] <MrSunshine> a man offering a tool is like cutting of a finger for her!
[17:47:31] <JT-Shop> I don't see the dimples
[17:47:40] <zeeshan> the pockets
[17:47:42] <zeeshan> the circular pockets
[17:47:52] <PetefromTn_> its not that dramatic.... it was an old weird hoop shaped hoe that was here in the house when we bought it
[17:47:53] <Wolf_> counter bores
[17:47:58] <zeeshan> no
[17:48:00] <zeeshan> they're circular pockets
[17:48:06] <zeeshan> if it was counter bores, id call em counter bores
[17:48:09] * zeeshan lays down the smack
[17:48:17] <zeeshan> :D
[17:48:25] <PetefromTn_> look like counterbores to me
[17:48:27] <zeeshan> Wolf_Mill: i let my friend dongs know how you felt about him
[17:48:29] <zeeshan> they arent
[17:48:33] <zeeshan> the're chamfered on the other hand
[17:48:44] <zeeshan> counter bores are a circular pocket with a cylindrical hole
[17:48:46] <zeeshan> :)
[17:48:57] <zeeshan> cause if you look at it from the other side, you might call it a countersink then!
[17:49:02] <PetefromTn_> maybe I am looking at a different drawing than you are?
[17:49:46] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/ifjG6wl.png
[17:49:53] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/0M2SG2w.png
[17:50:15] <PetefromTn_> counterbore from one side countersunk from the other
[17:51:22] <JT-Shop> yea soft jaws would be good
[17:51:37] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/U5bkbsB.png
[17:51:50] <zeeshan> the centerline is the seperation of the jaws
[17:51:54] <zeeshan> thats how i was imagining it
[17:52:02] <zeeshan> just wondering if theres a faster way to do 100 of em
[17:52:03] <andypugh> MrSunshine: I spread glue with a body-filler spreader when laminating MDF.
[17:52:17] <MrSunshine> the soft ones ?
[17:52:39] <andypugh> Well, actually I use some metal ones, but I think the pastic onees would work too.
[17:52:43] <MrSunshine> used a plywood spattle now as i get so frekkin much plywood that goes to waste in the cnc machine =)
[17:52:46] <PetefromTn_> parts are already cut out you are just drilling and counterboring them?
[17:56:15] <Sync> zeeshan: glue them down with CA?
[17:56:20] <zeeshan> no
[17:56:23] <zeeshan> thats not quicker!
[17:56:40] <Sync> well, if you can make pallets of 50 or so
[17:56:43] <Deejay> gn8
[17:56:47] <Sync> you only need to glue 2 times
[18:02:19] <JT-Shop> zeeshan, more than 2 parts at a time can be dicey if they are not exactly the same size
[18:02:31] <zeeshan> hm
[18:02:47] <zeeshan> they were cut on a laser
[18:02:52] <zeeshan> that holds 2 thou
[18:02:57] <JT-Shop> that's why they make those vises with hyd fingers
[18:03:13] <JT-Shop> bet some fly out unless you clamp them down
[18:03:39] <JT-Shop> or make your cutouts so the tops are captured
[18:04:35] <zeeshan> ill do the pry test
[18:04:40] <zeeshan> its not a lot of cutting force
[18:04:47] <zeeshan> that is going to be pulling em up
[18:04:57] <zeeshan> too bad they are a retarded size of .2"
[18:05:05] <zeeshan> so i cant go straight down with a .25"
[18:05:07] <zeeshan> end mill
[18:05:13] <JT-Shop> that's good but they can move around and chatter
[18:06:05] <JT-Shop> you could get 4 per if you put a balance between each pair to hold them tight
[18:06:25] <JT-Shop> balance bar
[18:06:43] <JT-Shop> 5mm is close to .2
[18:08:30] * JT-Shop goes for another bucket of H2O
[18:08:35] <zeeshan> heh
[18:08:37] <zeeshan> he
[18:10:59] <Tom_itx> that chatter could pop your EM
[18:11:08] <zeeshan> try n see
[18:11:11] <zeeshan> no balance bar here
[18:11:11] <zeeshan> =/
[18:11:51] <Tom_itx> what process do you have to do to them?
[18:12:12] <Tom_itx> drill recess and countersink?
[18:14:43] <Tom_itx> hah.. you need a single point cutter to do the 'pocket' from the top side then you can countersink and not have to flip the part
[18:14:53] <Tom_itx> treat it like a recess tool on a lathe
[18:15:10] <Tom_itx> you'd need a waste plate under it
[18:19:42] <Tom_itx> or something like this:
http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mLROcCg9-66OBH_3NpNRJ1w.jpg
[18:19:55] <PetefromTn_> I use cut paper when I nest several parts in sacrificial jaws
[18:20:12] <Tom_itx> then you won't have to flip the part
[18:20:58] <Tom_itx> if you can find one small enough
[18:21:23] <Tom_itx> and the step isn't too deep ( wide )
[18:23:00] * JT-Shop just has to flush the pump and lines and the coolant is done :)
[18:24:26] <Tom_itx> hah ran into my machinist buddy at sam's today
[18:26:23] <jdh> http://i.imgur.com/qQmgtpl.png
[18:30:17] <JT-Shop> lol, I see that all the time
[18:30:50] * JT-Shop wanders inside to make some pizza
[18:31:15] * Tom_itx is having pizza atm
[18:37:39] * Sync had pizza already
[20:01:32] <XXCoder> hmm
[20:01:50] <XXCoder> anyone know if there is engineering drawing of 3040 cnc router?
[20:01:55] <XXCoder> one with 43 mm holder
[20:05:48] <ChuangTzu> nope
[20:05:50] <ChuangTzu> :/
[20:05:58] <XXCoder> hm
[20:06:06] <ChuangTzu> anyone know why my stereo suddenly stops making sound except during the powerdown cycle?
[20:06:14] <ChuangTzu> like, in that 1.5s after you push the power button
[20:06:19] <ChuangTzu> when it normally delays before turning off
[20:06:24] <ChuangTzu> that's the only time it makes sound now :(
[20:06:29] <XXCoder> trying to figure how to find sizes so on because my mount is limited to 43 mm and I want to hold 52 mm
[20:15:13] <jdh> buy a 52mm mount
[20:16:53] <XXCoder> dont think it will bolt on my machine
[20:17:31] <XXCoder> yep it wont
[20:19:40] <XXCoder> bolt distance is approx 64 mm
[20:19:54] <XXCoder> the 52 mm clamp bolts distance are 70
[20:31:29] <XXCoder> jdh: the part that connects to Z ballscrew is removable and replaceable but I dont know if 52 mm version of that would fit or not.
[20:36:36] <XXCoder> http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1mk4KKXXXXXXzXFXXq6xXFXXXJ/221098951/HTB1mk4KKXXXXXXzXFXXq6xXFXXXJ.jpg
[20:41:15] <zeeshan> i made a serious enclosure for the mill
[20:41:30] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/am5WUn6.jpg
[20:41:36] <zeeshan> on that note its time to get food
[20:41:46] <XXCoder> fancy.
[20:42:12] <XXCoder> I see you opted in to fancy blue color upgrade too
[20:42:16] <zeeshan> haha
[20:42:17] <XXCoder> expensive.
[20:47:03] <malcom2073_> Haha zeeshanthat's awesome
[20:51:50] <zeeshan> :D
[20:51:59] <XXCoder> okay thats weird
[20:52:06] <XXCoder> I found cnc routers with 43mm spindle
[20:52:12] <XXCoder> why isnt any sold seperately
[20:52:28] <XXCoder> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/mini-cnc-3020-router-mini-cnc-3030-router-mini-cnc-3040-router/1945516777.html
[21:14:33] <PetefromTn_> http://imgur.com/0lvWCVg :D
[21:49:01] <jdh> do you have a spindle?
[21:49:48] <XXCoder> jdh: well a grinder that fits 43mm yeah
[21:49:57] <XXCoder> 27000 rpm only
[21:50:12] <jdh> and you have a 43mm mount?
[21:50:18] <XXCoder> yeah
[21:50:23] <XXCoder> odd thing though
[21:50:38] <XXCoder> my machine has 6 bolt holes but clamp uses only 2
[21:51:04] <jdh> I think mine is an 80
[21:51:56] <XXCoder> 80mm? cool
[22:31:19] <MacGalempsy> good evening everyone
[22:32:25] <XXCoder> hey
[22:32:37] <MacGalempsy> how are things going tonight?
[22:33:04] <XXCoder> boring
[22:33:24] <MacGalempsy> ah, I here you on that.
[22:33:39] <MacGalempsy> we just had dinner with the grands and got home
[22:33:44] <XXCoder> make me a 52 mm spindle holder lol
[22:34:10] <XXCoder> it sucks that I can't find ANY 3040 cnc router plans anywhere
[22:34:40] <MacGalempsy> just make your own plans
[22:34:57] <XXCoder> I already own one.
[22:35:20] <MacGalempsy> no cloning it?
[22:35:35] <XXCoder> no, need some design info so I can figure stuff out
[22:35:43] <MacGalempsy> ah ok
[22:36:06] <XXCoder> I wish I bought the 52 mm holder model
[22:37:28] <MacGalempsy> im trying to put together some numbers to try and start a 3d printing seminar where the student learns and builds a 3d printer. trying to keep it at $699
[22:37:47] <XXCoder> theres some really small ones on aliexpress
[22:37:53] <XXCoder> $200 or so
[22:38:40] <MacGalempsy> the goal this week is to pick a model, and try to put the kit together with decent quality parts.
[22:39:00] <MacGalempsy> the goal is to keep people happy and tell friends about the product
[22:40:31] <XXCoder> cool
[22:40:44] <XXCoder> still kinda sad the 3d printer thing didnt work out
[22:41:01] <XXCoder> it'd rock even with kinda crappy model i can fix some stuff and it would work
[22:44:55] <MacGalempsy> I think so many people get into it and fizzle out because it is too complicated and there is not a lot of support
[22:49:27] <XXCoder> wb
[22:49:43] <MacGalempsy> sorry got rebooted
[22:49:47] <XXCoder> np
[22:49:57] <XXCoder> I'm thinking best way is just make adoptor plate
[22:50:16] <MacGalempsy> the simplest way to get it working is typically the best
[22:50:25] <XXCoder> yeah
[22:50:49] <XXCoder> just need block that has bolt ons for my machine, and outer 53 mm clamp bolt holes
[22:51:06] <XXCoder> need to be thick enough to sink that inside bolts inside
[22:51:13] <XXCoder> so minium a cm thick maybe
[22:51:29] <MacGalempsy> sounds like you already got a good plan going
[22:51:38] <MacGalempsy> what will you use for cad?
[22:51:38] <XXCoder> possible one anyway
[22:51:45] <XXCoder> freecad
[22:52:10] <XXCoder> no cam anything at this time
[22:52:58] <MacGalempsy> depending on how simple the adapter is, it may be easiest to hand write the code
[22:53:34] <XXCoder> yeah
[22:53:44] <XXCoder> little more than few drills
[22:53:50] <XXCoder> maybe few edges
[22:53:58] <XXCoder> do 2 sides, then another 2
[22:54:03] <XXCoder> with m00 to change clamps
[22:54:19] <MacGalempsy> cant you use m98 m99 to clear the clamps?
[22:54:34] <XXCoder> m98 and 99 is unknown to me
[22:54:50] <MacGalempsy> initial plane and r plane
[22:55:00] <MacGalempsy> linuxcnc may not have those codes
[22:55:36] <XXCoder> okay I already made the 52mm clamp in freecad and also 43 mm verison lol
[22:55:38] <MacGalempsy> sorry g98 g99
[22:56:23] <XXCoder> it dont seem to stop and wait?
[22:56:24] <MacGalempsy> use it with canned cylces
[22:56:42] <XXCoder> oh I was talking about trimming sides
[22:56:50] <XXCoder> clamps would be on way for one side
[22:56:56] <MacGalempsy> oic
[22:57:05] <XXCoder> so, trim far and near
[22:57:09] <XXCoder> m00, change clamps
[22:57:14] <XXCoder> then trim left and right
[22:59:20] <MacGalempsy> I am thinking the Prusa 93 would be a good starter printer
[22:59:49] <MacGalempsy> i3 that is
[23:00:06] <XXCoder> not aviliable on amazon but looks decent
[23:00:15] <XXCoder> reviews is decent
[23:00:48] <MacGalempsy> I would like to be able to buy enough for 20, so maybe there will be a small price break
[23:01:11] <XXCoder> my suggestion? if can budget, buy 21
[23:01:15] <MacGalempsy> http://reprap.org/wiki/Prusa_i3
[23:01:25] <XXCoder> 21st is reserve "just in case".
[23:01:59] <MacGalempsy> spare parts will be required, but hopefully if I do a high level of quality control, the just in case part will remain negligable
[23:03:37] <XXCoder> yeah
[23:03:55] <XXCoder> honestly you just need non-printable spares'
[23:04:02] <XXCoder> couple nema 17s, few screws so on
[23:04:11] <MacGalempsy> there is a local filament company, so hoping I can make a deal with them for some samples and in return the get some business when its time to reup on the filamnet
[23:04:30] <XXCoder> well
[23:04:38] <XXCoder> since its for class
[23:04:42] <XXCoder> I bet there will be many fails
[23:04:51] <XXCoder> I suggest get some sort of unprinter too
[23:05:02] <MacGalempsy> un printer?
[23:05:03] <XXCoder> few hundred bucks
[23:05:06] <XXCoder> yeah
[23:05:12] <MacGalempsy> what is that?
[23:05:19] <XXCoder> turns printed stuff into filament
[23:05:27] <XXCoder> hence the UNprinter
[23:05:29] <MacGalempsy> ah,
[23:05:35] <Wolf_> not worth it
[23:05:37] <MacGalempsy> never heard that term before
[23:05:42] <XXCoder> Wolf_: it is for large class
[23:05:47] <XXCoder> 20 machines, lots fails
[23:05:59] <MacGalempsy> I agree, not worth it. a 1kg roll is $20
[23:06:22] <XXCoder> 1 kg can make what?
[23:06:25] <MacGalempsy> one day will be lecture and theory
[23:06:33] <XXCoder> I dont have scale knowledge at this time lol
[23:06:34] <Wolf_> cheap filament extruder will cause more issues then help
[23:06:35] <MacGalempsy> 1kg can make A LOT
[23:06:44] <XXCoder> lifesize vadar?
[23:07:05] <XXCoder> or maybe lifesize yoda?
[23:07:06] <MacGalempsy> no but 1 kg could do a vader helmet
[23:07:09] <MacGalempsy> lol
[23:07:18] <XXCoder> lol ok
[23:07:27] <XXCoder> that is pretty lot but I still do suggest it
[23:07:30] <XXCoder> less trash
[23:07:32] <MacGalempsy> fortunately the build area is only 200mmx200mmx175mm
[23:07:34] <XXCoder> reuse is best
[23:07:47] <MacGalempsy> that can be a whole different class
[23:07:55] <XXCoder> if students pay for their own reels
[23:08:02] <XXCoder> I bet they will rent your unprinter
[23:08:11] <XXCoder> almost free compared to $20 lb
[23:08:15] <XXCoder> *kg
[23:08:32] <Wolf_> link to this “unprinter”?
[23:08:34] <MacGalempsy> my goal is to make them happy enough to print stuff and get their friends interested in taking the class
[23:08:41] <XXCoder> Wolf_: well there is few versions
[23:08:47] <XXCoder> there is free plans for one
[23:08:49] <MacGalempsy> Wolf_: he is talking about a filastruder
[23:08:50] <XXCoder> lemme find em
[23:09:08] <XXCoder> http://www.filastruder.com/ yeah
[23:09:29] <MacGalempsy> wondering if since this is murica, I should make them in inches
[23:09:38] <MacGalempsy> or stick to metric
[23:09:59] <XXCoder> http://deltaprinter.co.za/filamentextruder/index.html
[23:10:02] <XXCoder> this has free plans
[23:10:08] <XXCoder> you need to grind parts
[23:10:55] <Wolf_> guy I get my filament from was saying a good extruder line is in the $400-550k range
[23:11:19] <MacGalempsy> with the filament quality being so important for the final print quality, I am recommending buying it from a credible source
[23:11:43] <XXCoder> drink lots milk?
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-03/mtu-sma030514.php heh
[23:11:47] <MacGalempsy> I mean, if you have crappy filament and it takes 4 hrs to print, you dont want to get to 3.5hr and have the thing take a shit
[23:11:59] <Wolf_> yup, under sized and it will strip at the feed point, over sized it will jam the head
[23:13:01] <MacGalempsy> XXCoder: that would be a level 2 course :) that course will be $999
[23:13:09] <XXCoder> cool
[23:13:17] <MacGalempsy> i'll let you teach it
[23:13:34] <XXCoder> nah not a good teacher
