#linuxcnc | Logs for 2015-10-15

[02:20:35] <Deejay> moin
[04:35:20] <XXCoder> monster!
[04:36:34] <archivist_herron> raving loony
[04:36:54] <XXCoder> heh
[04:36:57] <XXCoder> hows things
[04:37:09] <archivist_herron> http://www.loonyparty.com/
[04:37:31] <archivist_herron> bored
[04:37:45] <XXCoder> me too. today work was amazing dull
[04:38:06] <XXCoder> I got the magically boring job - turn tiny tile into even tinier tile with nice cruved ends
[04:38:28] <XXCoder> so mind crushing dull. I had to do all 1,000+ last time and guess I will have to this time too
[04:43:41] <archivist_herron> we had to make many tattoo machine cores a bit of 8mm stainless with a threaded hole
[04:44:14] <XXCoder> fun
[04:45:38] <archivist_herron> boss downstairs on the capstan, me upstairs on the lathe doing a second op threading them
[04:48:02] <XXCoder> in least its not that amazing complex part I ever saw
[04:48:51] <XXCoder> 9 holes, one weird, square one way and "house shape" one way, with stright small hose with very weird ending with another hole
[04:49:01] <XXCoder> it needs 9 ops to be done
[04:49:27] <XXCoder> lathe, lathe again, the mill rest
[04:49:33] <XXCoder> different orentions
[04:49:56] <XXCoder> yet funny thing? its only 3 inches long, and most of complex part is less than 1"x1"x1" area
[04:51:59] <archivist_herron> often my gears are 3 ops, make a blank, mill teeth, final part off bore etc back on the lathe
[04:52:37] <XXCoder> you basically just make gears usually?
[04:53:32] <archivist_herron> not getting enough work, to say just gears
[04:53:59] <XXCoder> bit of underflow eh
[04:54:17] <archivist_herron> yup
[04:54:47] <XXCoder> we had underflow for a but but been so busy for a month
[04:54:50] <archivist_herron> when on this nick I am at the window company
[04:54:52] <XXCoder> been having friday overtimes
[04:55:14] <archivist_herron> not actually working today, just here
[04:59:16] <XXCoder> not paid or?
[04:59:58] <archivist_herron> not paid today
[05:00:47] <archivist_herron> I taxi a neighbour into town on a Thursday, come here for a place to keep worm
[05:01:29] <XXCoder> worm
[05:02:32] <archivist_herron> and warm
[05:02:47] <XXCoder> warm bird gets the worm
[05:04:11] <archivist_herron> I was cooking worms this week, had a few bonfires getting rid of rubbish
[05:11:06] <XXCoder> cool
[05:14:13] <archivist_herron> I need more work like http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=merlin+worm
[05:15:02] <XXCoder> I wonder if theres something that can be bolted and clamp sideways
[05:15:10] <XXCoder> so it is below the gantry
[05:16:42] <archivist_herron> to do what
[05:16:50] <XXCoder> hold part
[05:17:37] <archivist_herron> some times you have to make holding devices
[05:17:57] <XXCoder> guess so
[05:18:14] <archivist_herron> that worm had an end support and back support I made
[05:18:29] <archivist_herron> crude but worked
[05:19:07] <XXCoder> I suppose it can be done by screw and nut
[05:19:26] <XXCoder> something that bolts to surface and has hole for screw
[05:21:22] <XXCoder> not in any rush anyway
[05:23:25] <jthornton> morning
[05:23:31] <XXCoder> hey
[05:45:51] <XXCoder> ugh
[05:45:57] <XXCoder> sometimes its impossible to find info
[05:46:01] <XXCoder> back pressure transducer hose nissan quest 1996
[05:46:05] <XXCoder> I cant find much info
[05:47:10] <XXCoder> oh finally http://home.earthlink.net/~vqfaq/Villager_EGR/index.htm
[05:49:24] <XXCoder> sigh it seems that specific hose always breaks down
[05:58:17] <XXCoder> hm
[05:58:23] <XXCoder> hose felt fine
[05:58:31] <XXCoder> checked rest of hoses seemed fine
[05:59:36] <archivist_herron> sensor and the connections
[05:59:57] <XXCoder> 2 errors p0400 (flow error) and p0354 (knock)
[06:00:37] <jthornton> well I think I actually set up a github repository lol
[06:00:47] <jthornton> first try was 2 years ago lol
[06:01:08] <XXCoder> archivist_herron: http://home.earthlink.net/~vqfaq/Villager_EGR/BPT_hose.JPG
[06:01:28] <XXCoder> I guess I should get egr inspection to find whats up
[06:01:41] <XXCoder> cheap enough. cheaper than "replace and see" method lol
[06:09:46] <Sync> just flash the EGR code away?
[06:09:59] <XXCoder> Sync: bad idle I have to actually fix
[06:10:19] <XXCoder> though i plan to seafoam fuel and oil first
[06:10:23] <XXCoder> clean crud up
[06:10:32] <XXCoder> and see if that was what was actually causing errors
[06:10:53] <XXCoder> (after gas seafoam I plan to replace gas filter, its surpising how often that is orginial)
[06:14:31] <XXCoder> Sync: odd thing is that it idles fine when cold
[06:14:36] <XXCoder> warm it has problems
[06:21:07] <archivist_herron> XXCoder, bad temperature sensor maybe, so still thinks its cold
[06:21:25] <XXCoder> would it show as cold on console?
[06:21:29] <XXCoder> aka still at cold
[06:22:40] <archivist_herron> dunno how many sensors modern engines have
[06:22:57] <XXCoder> me either
[06:23:06] <Jymmm> I do
[06:23:13] <Jymmm> Two
[06:23:15] <Jymmm> Many
[06:23:17] <Jymmm> ;)
[06:23:21] <XXCoder> lol
[06:31:54] <skunkworks> the few cars I have worked on - they had 2 different sensors. one for the guage and one for the ems
[06:32:39] <skunkworks> but we are talking 90s vintage... maybe 2000's
[06:34:11] <XXCoder> my van is 90s
[06:34:19] <XXCoder> 1996 specifically. first year for odb2 lol
[06:34:49] <jthornton> my tractor is 1956, it's younger than me
[06:38:08] <XXCoder> cool
[06:38:26] <skunkworks> heh - I owned a 73 ford which was when I was born... :)
[06:38:46] <XXCoder> I used to own datsun 1976 which is my birth year
[06:45:18] <archivist_herron> datsuns were rot boxes
[06:45:29] <jthornton> my first car was a 1957 VW Beetle
[06:45:59] <archivist_herron> so rotten they had to change their name
[06:46:20] <XXCoder> if I recall 1976 was last year before nissan bought it
[06:46:34] <XXCoder> so my car was last pure datsun
[06:46:38] <malcom2073> Buddy of mine has a early 70's 280Z, that is an awesome fun car
[06:47:04] <jthornton> I had a datsun B210, don't recall the year
[06:47:54] <jthornton> hmm can't remember how to pull a branch off of origin :(
[06:48:17] <archivist_herron> XXCoder, it was a name change not a purchase as far as I know, actually they bought is in 1934
[06:49:01] <XXCoder> ah 1986
[06:49:05] <XXCoder> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datsun
[06:51:47] <malcom2073> jthornton: SVN or Git?
[06:51:53] <XXCoder> woz
[06:51:59] <XXCoder> heh
[06:52:01] <jthornton> git
[06:52:23] <malcom2073> What do you mean "pull a branch" ? Switch to it?
[06:52:53] <malcom2073> When you pull, it pulls everything, to switch to an exsiting branch do "git checkout branchname"
[06:52:55] <jthornton> I have master and gh-pages on git hub and want to check out gh-pages
[06:53:10] <malcom2073> pull down the repo, then do git checkout gh-pages
[06:54:01] <jthornton> thanks
[06:54:07] <malcom2073> np
[07:03:30] <XXCoder> making a interesting object in freecad
[07:04:58] <malcom2073> Whatcha makin?
[07:05:07] <XXCoder> just random thing really
[07:05:29] <XXCoder> trying to figure how to move object so its at same place as other
[07:05:40] <XXCoder> because both has placement of 0,0,0
[07:10:50] <jthornton> lol github created a web page for my project http://jethornton.github.io/dxf2gcode/
[07:11:08] <XXCoder> fancy
[07:11:12] <malcom2073> Shiny
[07:19:01] <XXCoder> ah finally did it
[07:19:20] <XXCoder> I know theres simpler way but yea lol
[07:19:34] <XXCoder> looks like 3 cyl on x, y, and z crossings
[07:19:56] <XXCoder> newst .16 is very stable
[07:19:58] <skunkworks> why do I have the dolang dolang dolang song in my head ;)
[07:19:59] <XXCoder> .14 is just silly
[07:20:21] <XXCoder> no idea, I dont listen to music. or amny sounds lol
[07:20:23] <XXCoder> night
[07:21:01] <jthornton> ssi, http://jethornton.github.io/dxf2gcode/
[07:34:08] <rob_h> any one in UK after a nice little mill :) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CNC-Milling-Machine-/191715046849?
[08:04:16] <archivist> rob_h, you :)
[08:14:44] <skunkworks> oh - that looks like the little sister of ours
[08:15:07] <skunkworks> same year iirc
[08:55:49] <malcom2073> Wolf_: Half of my order of $8 Nema23's arrive today
[08:56:22] <archivist> is there a way to find out what happened to a US company ? computer aided manufacturing international inc arlington texas
[08:56:32] <archivist> was a non profit
[09:01:19] <SpeedEvil> I know in the UK, one can look up companies house records.
[09:01:27] <SpeedEvil> Does the IRS have a public listing perhaps?
[09:03:11] <archivist> been googling the name, just finding lots of references to reports by the company was a research thing funded by companies and universities, part at Cranfield over here
[09:07:55] <SpeedEvil> https://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Search-for-Charities
[09:08:14] <SpeedEvil> depr
[09:16:37] <archivist> downloaded a csv file of texas non profits, not there
[09:17:33] <archivist> I bet its defunct/name changed or bought by another
[09:22:42] <archivist> heh what a surprise many references to CAM-I at nist http://www.mel.nist.gov/pptb/features_bib/features.bib
[09:31:18] <malcom2073> Heh might've been the buddy buddy system
[09:32:53] <archivist> information referencing the name seems to die out about 1990
[09:33:26] <SpeedEvil> archivist: i assume you have some hardware?
[09:33:38] <archivist> software :)
[09:33:43] <SpeedEvil> ah
[09:35:25] <archivist> source and manual
[09:37:08] <SpeedEvil> Just feel a warm fuzzy glow that it's probably copyrighted till 2060.
[09:37:55] <archivist> bit late then
[09:46:59] <ssi> jthornton: nice!
[09:56:29] <Sync> archivist: what kind of software?
[10:25:48] <archivist> Sync, cam
[10:27:30] <Sync> no shit
[10:33:04] <archivist> cant do much with it until we can get some form of release though....grrrrr
[11:06:15] <Wolf_Mill> hmm my nema23 showed up, piss poor packing
[11:12:49] <ssi> newegg ones?
[11:13:00] <Wolf_Mill> walmart order
[11:13:06] <ssi> ah
[11:13:09] <ssi> my newegg ones will be here monday
[11:13:40] <ssi> Wolf_Mill: are you partial to digikey?
[11:13:53] <ssi> I prefer digikey mostly, but mouser's bom tools are pretty handy
[11:13:54] <renesis> <3 digikey
[11:14:06] <renesis> mouser has bom tools?
[11:14:16] <ssi> yea
[11:14:27] <renesis> digikey used to have cool bom tools but i think theyve changed shit twice since then, also they jacked up their front page
[11:14:34] <ssi> digikey's site mostly sucks
[11:14:37] <ssi> but they're a better supplier
[11:14:48] <renesis> their search is still awesome tho, mouser always pissed me off because if you didnt know exactly what you wanted it was useless
[11:15:01] <renesis> naw their search is way better imo
[11:15:28] <renesis> you gotta double check listed parameters, but mouser categorization and filters are sometimes useless
[11:16:11] <Wolf_Mill> ssi: I use either, digikey mostly for some reason
[11:17:07] <renesis> tho in general, as far as pricing and availabvility, mouser kind of wins at passives and accessories and digikey seems to rock at ic and discrete silicon stuff
[11:17:20] <renesis> wolf_mill: heh, about how old are you?
[11:17:21] <ssi> Wolf_Mill: I'm probably going to just order a reel of the 100n caps and most of the more common values of resistor
[11:17:24] <ssi> and I'll send you some cut tape
[11:18:04] <Wolf_Mill> cool
[11:18:05] <ssi> ...maybe... it's not that much of a price break actually
[11:18:10] <renesis> i know a bunch of older engineers who like mouser search, most everyone around my age go straight to digikey
[11:18:14] <ssi> I can get 500 100n caps for $2.73
[11:18:20] <ssi> or 4000 for $13 and change
[11:18:35] <ssi> there's 35 per unit, and we have 10 pcbs
[11:18:39] <ssi> so 500 is plenty
[11:19:13] <Wolf_Mill> yeah, not much of a price break there lol
[11:19:19] <Wolf_Mill> renesis: 39
[11:19:29] <renesis> kind of my age
[11:19:37] <renesis> trend still stands
[11:19:45] <ssi> renesis: how old are you
[11:19:51] <renesis> ~35
[11:20:00] <ssi> same
[11:20:04] <ssi> be 35 in april
[11:20:14] <renesis> ha i got carded twice last night, was like cmon rly?
[11:20:22] <ssi> :P
[11:20:38] <renesis> theyre like, you gotta look 35, so ya i prob get carded for life =\
[11:20:48] <Wolf_Mill> http://i.imgur.com/Mfk4r3h.jpg :)
[11:21:06] <renesis> nice pile
[11:21:24] <ssi> that all came from walmart?
[11:21:32] <renesis> haha i had a friend once tell me i only really looked happy ripping open new parts boxes, heh
[11:21:34] <Wolf_Mill> all the motors were pretty much shoved in a box
[11:21:48] <renesis> packing slip for padding?
[11:21:58] <Wolf_Mill> plastic bags...
[11:22:02] <Wolf_Mill> 1 layer
[11:22:02] <ssi> are those limit switches plunger type or prox or what
[11:22:05] <renesis> blown up one?
[11:22:19] <renesis> ha, yeah i dont see that going well with the driver flanges
[11:22:55] <Wolf_Mill> limit are, umm me-8104
[11:24:25] <Wolf_Mill> plunger snaps w/ cam arms
[11:28:08] <ssi> Wolf_Mill: any clue why they have 100pf caps with a 1206K footprint?
[11:28:46] <Wolf_Mill> no idea, I might need to double check my bom
[11:29:39] <archivist> toolboxes doubling as table space...very normal :)
[11:30:28] <Wolf_Mill> replacement for my oops came in yesterday http://i.imgur.com/jY3RQ5o.jpg
[11:30:32] <ssi> archivist: my buddy BJ has all four wings for his hiperbipe set up on sawhorses and they're being used as table space at the moment :P
[11:30:37] <archivist> a level arrived yesterday exceedingly well wrapped
[11:31:15] <archivist> number of layers in any stack is my problem
[11:31:26] <archivist> and merge stacks
[11:31:51] <ssi> yep
[11:32:05] <ssi> Wolf_Mill: I'm not paying any attention to cap or resistor mfgr
[11:32:11] <ssi> I'm just taking the top result that meets my needs
[11:32:30] <Wolf_Mill> whatever works for me lol
[11:33:10] <archivist> fun part is trying to clear enough space when you want to take a picture
[11:33:18] <archivist> impossible
[11:33:42] <eggfarmstory> 我想找段子手帮忙推游戏!
[11:34:19] <ssi> Wolf_Mill: shit there's no data on voltage rating requirements for these caps
[11:34:23] <archivist> sometimes the picture just says it all http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2013/2013_04_15_glass_trolley/IMG_1526.JPG
[11:35:13] <eggfarmstory> 分成50%收入
[11:35:31] <Wolf_Mill> ssi: what raiting did I pick?
[11:35:49] <ssi> Wolf_Mill: you didn't pick any parts for caps or resistors
[11:36:21] <ssi> I imagine that we need at least 24V for all caps except ones in the HV circuits
[11:36:24] <Wolf_Mill> oops lol
[11:36:42] <Wolf_Mill> yeah, iirc from the schem
[11:37:50] <Wolf_Mill> nice looks like most all of these motors have wires w/ smashed insulation
[11:41:48] <Wolf_> and the power just went out and downed the cnc box and it doesn’t want to restart >.<
[11:42:50] <ssi> this is what I'm worried about
[11:45:23] <eggfarmstory> EggFarmStory@gmail.com
[11:45:57] <Jymmm> CNC Chainsaw !!!
[11:46:12] <JT-Shoppe> ssi, I guess I have to create a folder for executables for github?
[11:46:33] <ssi> JT-Shoppe: not sure what you mean
[11:47:59] <JT-Shoppe> right now I have the .go files on github, if some wants to run it without install goland they need an executable file right?
[11:48:49] <ssi> you'd have to have a binary built for every platform
[11:49:12] <ssi> the one you build on your machine won't necessarily run everywhere
[11:49:12] <Tom_itx> ssi, what board are you building?
[11:49:13] <JT-Shoppe> or the platforms I'm going to support lol
[11:49:23] <ssi> Tom_itx: https://github.com/rene-dev/stmbl
[11:51:03] <Tom_itx> nice
[11:56:18] <JT-Shoppe> ssi, why are the programs so large, a 200 line program is 2mb
[11:56:32] <ssi> JT-Shoppe: because they're statically linked
[11:56:38] <ssi> the runtime libs are linked in
[11:57:04] <JT-Shoppe> can you just import fmt.Println for example?
[11:57:21] <ssi> I'm not sure
[11:57:28] <ssi> but it won't reduce the linked footprint I don't think
[11:57:39] <JT-Shoppe> ok just wondering
[11:57:47] <ssi> I'm pretty sure the whole package has to be linked
[11:59:52] <CaptHindsight> are there any better deals (<1K pcs) for shop rags than Walmart 21 cent washcloths?
[12:10:13] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-NEW-INDUSTRIAL-SHOP-RAGS-CLEANING-TOWELS-RED-LARGE-GA-TOWEL-BRAND-/141617235342
[12:13:58] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: nice find, I wonder if it's a mistake or ebay special because I was just at their website
[12:14:31] <malcom2073> Heh, maybe they meant to do 144.80 instead of 14.48?
[12:14:35] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: They say "sale" at the bottom, so maybe it's a lost leader of sorts. HEll take advantage of it as it's free shipping too.
[12:14:36] <malcom2073> or 9% off instead of 90
[12:15:20] <Jymmm> "GRAND OPENING SALE!!"
[12:15:36] <CaptHindsight> get 200
[12:16:17] <Jymmm> Says "pre washed", but I'd soak em in a 5gal bucket before using =)
[12:16:20] <Wolf_> well the pack of 1000 is $104
[12:16:29] <Wolf_> so price sounds right
[12:16:37] <malcom2073> Hey Wolf: 4 out of 8 of my steppers are supposed to arrive today
[12:16:58] <Wolf_> 6 of the nema23 got here today
[12:17:18] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Personally, I like surgical towels instead =)
[12:17:42] <malcom2073> Wolf_: They as-advertized?
[12:17:46] <malcom2073> Also, you notice, the price went up on them
[12:17:49] <malcom2073> http://www.walmart.com/ip/46910453
[12:18:01] <Wolf_> http://i.imgur.com/Mfk4r3h.jpg looks to be
[12:18:04] <ssi> shit they're local to me
[12:18:09] <ssi> maybe I should go buy a truckload of rags
[12:18:19] <malcom2073> Haha nice
[12:18:31] <Wolf_> the limit switches on the other hand came with plastic rollers vs metal ones
[12:18:37] <malcom2073> heh
[12:22:30] <CaptHindsight> ssi: the 1K price is 72.99 + 28.55 shipping, maybe you can save by local pickup
[12:22:46] <membiblio> Anyone know how to display the output of a python script in the axis gui?
[12:23:08] <ssi> yeah I'm sure I could
[12:23:49] <CaptHindsight> the washcloths at Walmart are lower cost than the shop rags and made better
[12:24:59] <membiblio> Leows and Home Depot both have good prices on shop rags and they stand up / wash great
[12:28:10] <ssi> meows
[12:28:39] <Jymmm> Golf Cart Saw Mill... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwwpeZK2YVc
[12:29:47] <malcom2073> There are some nuts homemade saw mills on youtube
[12:30:38] <Jymmm> He did a nice job on it
[12:31:06] <ssi> Wolf_: enough caps to build ten units, plus extras, is about $25
[12:31:12] <ssi> Wolf_: except for the big 'lytic, which are $8 apiece :D
[12:31:26] <Wolf_> not too bad
[12:31:37] <ssi> I'm only going to order one of those
[12:31:46] <ssi> I'm basically doing everything in bulk that's pennies
[12:32:01] <ssi> and for the expensive parts, like the lytic and the ARMs, I'll order enough to build one unit
[12:32:02] <Wolf_> yeah
[12:32:06] <ssi> then later if it works out I'll build two more
[12:32:15] <malcom2073> ssi: You building one of the stmbl's?
[12:32:18] <ssi> malcom2073: yeah
[12:32:22] <ssi> I should have ten pcbs on the way
[12:32:25] <malcom2073> How much is it comign to in parts?
[12:32:29] <ssi> I dunno yet
[12:32:30] <ssi> I'll let you know
[12:32:36] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: looks like a contraption in a redneck horror film
[12:32:44] <malcom2073> Cool, yeah I'd be interested to know
[12:33:36] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: True, but when he demo's it, pretty damn cool.
[12:34:06] <ssi> oh I missed a small 'lytic
[12:34:17] <ssi> malcom2073: you gonna help get the smartserial code written?
[12:34:36] <malcom2073> Hah, all I have is brushed motors :P
[12:34:54] <ssi> stmbl will do brush motors
[12:35:05] <Wolf_> malcom2073: I have servo motors and I’m going to build a stmbl as well
[12:35:24] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: looks like some nice lumber at the end
[12:36:02] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: some do's and don'ts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbRY528uTRY
[12:36:20] <malcom2073> True heh
[12:36:31] <malcom2073> Meh, depends on the price. I do want to use my servos for my big router though
[12:36:56] <ssi> I'm guessing probably around $60 apiece
[12:37:02] <ssi> they'll definitely be cheaper than most options
[12:37:08] <malcom2073> Damn, that's not bad for price
[12:37:17] <malcom2073> SMD soldering sucks, but it's doable
[12:37:20] <Wolf_> I want to do servos on the plasma table, but… I need to find some smaller ones lol
[12:37:37] <malcom2073> Wolf_: should've come to the yard sale, guy was selling small servos :)
[12:37:50] <Wolf_> yeah, should have lol
[12:41:31] <malcom2073> ssi: Writing the smartserial interface shouldn't be terribly difficult :P
[12:41:42] <malcom2073> stm32f4 is really easy to code ofr
[12:41:44] <malcom2073> for*
[12:41:57] <ssi> malcom2073: yea, I'm more worried about the hostmot side :)
[12:42:33] <malcom2073> Hah
[12:42:44] <malcom2073> Well well, if it isn't Steve Stallings
[12:42:47] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Eeee Ha.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAIs8VLFbls
[12:45:42] <ssi> might be a bit more than that
[12:45:45] <ssi> there's a few expensive ICs
[12:46:02] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: I lost a finger just watching that video
[12:46:15] <Jymmm> haha
[12:46:48] <ssi> the power multiphase IGBT chip is $25 in single qty, $20 in 10qty
[12:46:54] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: So, the golfcart mill looks a WHOLE lot better now, don't it ;)
[12:46:58] <malcom2073> Yeah I'll bet, they're pretty beefy
[12:47:24] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: that could be a nice handyman vacation getaway, wilderness sawmill camp
[12:48:00] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: There ya go =)
[12:48:09] <archivist> CaptHindsight, I think that already exists
[12:48:15] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: I still think a CNC Chainsaw is in order though
[12:48:43] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: on a giant robot arm or a backhoe
[12:48:46] <archivist> I am on the oldtools mailing list :)
[12:48:48] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Same principal as CNC HWFC
[12:49:18] <CaptHindsight> Camp Nofingers
[12:49:26] <malcom2073> OrToes
[12:49:51] <CaptHindsight> Lost Digits Resort and Sawmills
[12:50:42] <CaptHindsight> now withing walking/draging distance to the new ER
[12:53:08] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=typOpfYqjdk
[12:53:25] <CaptHindsight> well I like his Safety First with extending the length of the support board to extend beyond the length of the saw blade
[12:53:44] <ssi> safety third
[12:53:47] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: AFTER he installs it backwards you mean?
[13:02:15] <pcw_home> ssi: there should not be any hostmot2 side changes needed to support a new sserial device
[13:02:16] <pcw_home> (unless a new data type is needed)
[13:02:42] <ssi> pcw_home: even if we want to use it as a cycle-late encoder source like we were talking about the other day?
[13:02:55] <ssi> oh yea I think you mentioned it doesn't support index as is
[13:03:56] <pcw_home> All hal pin names, data types and widths are specified by the remote
[13:04:41] <ssi> ohh ok
[13:07:13] <pcw_home> I think (And I suspect this is a better model than the current hostmot2 one) that the best way to handle
[13:07:15] <pcw_home> index is to always latch on index and present the driver with a latch updated flag the current count and the
[13:07:16] <pcw_home> latched count (rather than conditionally latching as is done now)
[13:08:07] <pcw_home> that means that the latched count is always available as encoder sanity check
[13:08:55] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20151015-cornell-university-engineers-successfully-3d-print-soft-actuator-that-mimics-the-muscles-of-octopus-tentacles.html
[13:10:26] <CaptHindsight> https://youtu.be/BZ5W7LyyKL0?t=26s 3D-printed 'soft' robotic tentacle
[13:15:42] <SpeedEvil> That'll be big in Japan.
[13:21:57] <Deejay> re
[13:42:47] <_methods> lol
[13:44:47] <ssi> _methods: I may have some laser work for you if you can do it
[13:44:52] <_methods> sure
[13:45:00] <_methods> you got prints?
[13:45:02] <ssi> 1/8 6061 sheet
[13:45:03] <ssi> yeah
[13:45:12] <ssi> I'll get you something in a bit
[13:45:15] <_methods> kick it my way i'll get you a quote
[13:45:18] <ssi> ok cool
[13:45:21] <_methods> qty?
[13:45:25] <ssi> I don't know the qtys yet :/
[13:45:28] <_methods> kk
[13:45:32] <ssi> and we'll probably provide the material
[13:45:34] <_methods> any finish?
[13:45:38] <ssi> cause it needs to be certified
[13:45:51] <_methods> we can send you heat with the parts
[13:46:00] <ssi> they need to be finish machined after jet cutting
[13:46:06] <_methods> if you need certs i'll get them from supplier and send to you if you want
[13:46:07] <ssi> some of them get counterbores, some get o-ring grooves
[13:46:26] <_methods> k
[13:46:44] <ssi> it's all gotta be 6061-T4, which is hard to find :/
[13:46:50] <ssi> we had to special order all the tubing from tw metals
[13:46:58] <_methods> that's fine we order from tw too
[13:47:06] <ssi> cool
[13:47:17] <_methods> they're dying to get back in here lol
[13:47:22] <ssi> tw is up the street from me, I mean we had to get tw to special order from their extruder or whatever :P
[13:47:22] <_methods> we cut them off for awhile
[13:47:56] <_methods> we've been using phoenix metals mainly lately
[13:48:22] <_methods> tw was giving us shit prices for awhile so we gave them a "break"
[13:48:23] <_methods> lol
[13:48:34] <_methods> time out
[13:48:36] <ssi> lol
[13:48:40] <ssi> go sit in the corner
[13:48:45] <_methods> hehe yeah
[13:49:08] <_methods> but we're cool with you supplying the metal too
[13:49:14] <_methods> whatever you want
[13:49:28] <ssi> yea we'll figure it out
[13:49:31] <_methods> a lot of our customers supply
[13:49:38] <_methods> mainly for whacky stuff
[13:49:46] <ssi> these are 737 fuel tank parts so the certs and traceability are important
[13:49:52] <_methods> like we have a stack on 3/4" monel plate next door right now
[13:50:06] <_methods> like $500k worth of monel 4'x8' plate hehe
[13:50:11] <ssi> monel's not cheap
[13:50:19] <_methods> not at all lol
[13:50:21] <_methods> big money
[13:50:24] <ssi> wtf is being made out of 3/4 monel? :P
[13:50:36] <_methods> no idea it's all nuclear stuff
[13:50:43] <ssi> ahh
[13:50:45] <_methods> we only get need to know prints
[13:51:06] <_methods> or i guess it's nuclear
[13:51:08] <ssi> makes sense
[13:51:17] <_methods> i don't have any proof that it is
[13:51:33] <_methods> i just assumed since it was 3/4" monel and it was a sandia print that it was nuclear related
[13:52:20] <_methods> brb
[14:01:52] <_methods> http://i.imgur.com/85qNNXS.jpg
[14:01:57] <_methods> pile of monel heheh
[14:02:46] <ssi> dayum
[14:03:13] <_methods> yeah i saw the invoice, it was like $480k for that stack
[14:04:33] <_methods> big money
[14:05:30] <Contract_Pilot> Gun show this weekend be busy busy busy.
[14:22:08] <JT-Shoppe> I've just been given an optical comparator with X Y axis and DRO readout... what do I do with it?
[14:22:25] <ssi> optically compare things?
[14:23:11] <JT-Shoppe> can you pick bolt hole and edges with that?
[14:24:13] <ssi> I imagine so
[14:24:24] <ssi> there's a huge one sitting outside my apartment at the airport
[14:24:32] <ssi> it's got like a 24" ground glass, and an XY table
[14:24:43] <JT-Shoppe> if nothing else it has XY table with scales and DRO
[14:24:43] <ssi> and it's as big as four phone booths at least :P
[14:25:09] <JT-Shoppe> this one is about 3' x 3' floor model
[14:25:21] <ssi> pete
[14:27:24] <_methods> wow gave you an optical
[14:27:26] <_methods> sweet
[14:27:48] <JT-Shoppe> I should have took a photo...
[14:27:55] <JT-Shoppe> dunno where to put it lol
[14:29:07] <malcom2073> I've been thinking of building one of those out of some actuators I have laying around, with a webcam and a knob to move the axises
[14:29:51] <jdh> we use overlay templates on comparators for chamfers and size verif
[14:30:09] <_methods> with dro you can trig out most of that stuff pretty easy
[14:30:16] <_methods> a lot of the dro's have built in trig stuff
[14:30:27] <malcom2073> Yeah that's kinda the idea, an off-the-mill DRO
[14:31:10] <_methods> checkin chamfers and radii
[14:33:13] <PetefromTn_> hey ssi
[14:33:24] <ssi> PetefromTn_: you interested it quoting some work?
[14:33:35] <PetefromTn_> ALWAYS
[14:33:39] <PetefromTn_> ;)
[14:33:41] <malcom2073> heh
[14:33:43] <ssi> stupid question, right? :)
[14:34:09] <PetefromTn_> as long as I can make a buck
[14:34:17] <ssi> yep, but only one
[14:34:18] <ssi> ;)
[14:34:23] <PetefromTn_> hehehe
[14:34:39] <PetefromTn_> did you get your new toy home?
[14:34:44] <ssi> yessss
[14:34:49] <PetefromTn_> sweet
[14:35:00] <PetefromTn_> now im jealous LOL
[14:35:07] <ssi> don't be
[14:35:10] <ssi> now I have to make the damn thing run!
[14:35:38] <malcom2073> ssi: What'd you get?
[14:35:45] <ssi> a 300zx twin turbo
[14:35:53] <malcom2073> oh yeah I saw pictures haha
[14:36:01] <malcom2073> For some reason I thought you got another machine tool :P but that's zeeshan
[14:36:10] <PetefromTn_> hey at least you have a car to PLAY with ;)
[14:36:11] <ssi> nah, still trying to figure out the robot arm
[14:36:40] <ssi> actually now I'm thinking about trying to get this, to help with that endeavor and others:
[14:36:43] <ssi> http://augusta.craigslist.org/cto/5243659908.html
[14:36:53] <malcom2073> Haha nice
[14:36:54] <malcom2073> I want a rollback
[14:37:02] <ssi> me too so bad
[14:37:07] <Wolf_> meh
[14:37:15] <Wolf_> over rated
[14:37:17] <malcom2073> Shush Wolf_, you have all the fun toys
[14:37:22] <Sync> turboswap the truck
[14:37:26] <Wolf_> but shit load cheaper then my setup
[14:37:28] <Sync> and kill everything on the lights
[14:39:16] <Wolf_> rollbacks can be a total pain in the ass
[14:39:35] <ssi> they can also be REALLY HANDY
[14:39:38] <Wolf_> usually need all the wear pads replaced
[14:40:06] <Wolf_> up here half the time the underside of the decks are rotted out
[14:40:08] <PetefromTn_> the one they have at work needs some work I bet they would sell it LOL
[14:40:26] <ssi> I'd like to have one that can do 10k on the bed
[14:40:34] <ssi> but that'd be like an f650 size truck, 26k gvwr
[14:40:37] <ssi> and I can't afford that shit
[14:40:46] <Wolf_> we got one here for sale
[14:40:49] <malcom2073> A mini-forklift I'd get more use out of, since I already have a trailer capable of hauling 3 ton
[14:40:51] <ssi> Wolf_: rotted out? :)
[14:40:57] <Wolf_> partly lol
[14:41:03] <ssi> malcom2073: I have small forklift already
[14:41:11] <ssi> I don't have a truck AT ALL right now
[14:41:11] <malcom2073> ssi: I've seen it, it's not that small :P
[14:41:20] <ssi> malcom2073: it's small, it's a trucker mast lift
[14:41:24] <ssi> 5klb, 84" lift
[14:41:31] <ssi> I bought it because it fit in my garage at home
[14:41:31] <malcom2073> Still not that small
[14:41:34] <malcom2073> we have much smaller ones at my work
[14:41:34] <ssi> now that's not a constraint anymore
[14:41:40] <ssi> I'd like to get rid of it and get a triple mast
[14:41:53] <Wolf_> I have a triple :D
[14:41:56] <ssi> an 8k triple mast would be the shit
[14:42:14] <malcom2073> See? Wolf_'s got all the toys
[14:42:17] <ssi> yeah
[14:42:23] <ssi> between wolf and me we have all the toys :)
[14:42:24] <malcom2073> And a 120lb mill
[14:42:26] <Wolf_> I need to put the motor back in it still
[14:42:31] <malcom2073> He makes no sense
[14:42:33] <ssi> hahaha
[14:42:41] <ssi> I have a 10,000lb mill
[14:43:11] <Wolf_> might possibly be getting a 12x6 water jet… would that count as toy?
[14:43:17] <malcom2073> Newp
[14:43:19] <ssi> yes
[14:43:41] <Wolf_> not sure how the hell I would hook the thing up here tho lol
[14:43:46] <malcom2073> Lol
[14:43:52] <malcom2073> I still wanna build my 10x5ft router
[14:43:58] <ssi> I think I'm going to build one
[14:44:00] <malcom2073> I have rails, I have motors...
[14:44:05] <malcom2073> The frame is gonna kill me
[14:44:08] <ssi> I'm just going to order a motion frame from cncrouterparts
[14:44:12] <ssi> they're $4500
[14:44:22] <malcom2073> Too flimsy for me
[14:44:30] <ssi> they're actually pretty damn beefy
[14:44:34] <ssi> ever seen one in person?
[14:44:43] <malcom2073> Still too flimsy, I want to be able to do 1/2" aluminum
[14:44:49] <Wolf_> i still need to do that 12’x6’ plasma table
[14:44:57] <ssi> I have a 4x4 plasma table
[14:45:09] <ssi> http://www.cncrouterparts.com/pro4896-4-x-8-cnc-router-kit-p-253.html
[14:45:13] <malcom2073> I designed a table, but it's gonna cost me, 2000lbs in steel tubing
[14:45:19] <ssi> I was thinking about getting taht and trying to put a laser on it
[14:45:24] <Wolf_> thats like $200
[14:45:24] <ssi> but I'm not sure that'll work as well as I'd like
[14:45:34] <malcom2073> Wolf_: If I can get it for scrap price, sure :P
[14:45:37] <Wolf_> err more
[14:45:40] <malcom2073> I've been looking for a year
[14:45:43] <Wolf_> but not much
[14:45:49] <malcom2073> figured it to about $1000
[14:46:22] <Wolf_> I know last time I got one a 4x8 x0.5” plate was only $370 something
[14:46:40] <malcom2073> This is all 2x4, 4x4, and 4x6 tubing
[14:46:41] <malcom2073> 1/4" wall
[14:46:43] <malcom2073> big stuff
[14:46:46] <ssi> that shit's cheap
[14:46:53] <Wolf_> 1/4” might be over kill
[14:46:55] <ssi> probably is
[14:46:59] <malcom2073> Probably is
[14:47:04] <Wolf_> very is
[14:47:06] <ssi> my plasma table is made of 2x2 and 2x4 3/16 wall and it's overkill as hell
[14:47:07] <malcom2073> but tbh, the price difference betwen 1/4 and 3/8, is neglible
[14:47:13] <Wolf_> price that in 3/16
[14:47:20] <malcom2073> For milling 1/2" aluminum at speed?
[14:47:26] <malcom2073> in 4x8 sheets?
[14:47:29] <ssi> and it holds 40 gallons of water plus the weight of the workpiece
[14:47:35] <ssi> and it'll do 4x4 1/2" steel plate
[14:47:41] <malcom2073> ssi: I'm talking a router
[14:47:44] <malcom2073> Not plasma
[14:48:03] <ssi> well you won't be "milling" anything :)
[14:48:25] <ssi> I don't think the frame rigidity is going to be the limiting factor there
[14:48:29] <ssi> moreso the machine design
[14:48:32] <Wolf_> keep the flex down in the design,
[14:48:41] <malcom2073> Yeah been fiddling with designs to keep the flex down
[14:48:58] <Wolf_> 1/8” wall tube would probably do to hold it up
[14:49:02] <malcom2073> My rails are good to 60ton, so I need to make sure the frame is solid
[14:49:04] <ssi> Wolf_: I've about got all the digikey pns added to rene's bom
[14:49:14] <Wolf_> cool
[14:49:35] <ssi> I'd like to figure out a way to make the spreadsheet automatically figure out the supplier prices
[14:50:03] <ssi> I'm not done with the orders yet, I'm up to about $800 for ten sets
[14:50:13] <ssi> without shipping/tax/whatever
[14:50:31] <Wolf_> still not too bad if we are under $100 per
[14:50:40] <ssi> yeah they can easily be under $100 per I think
[14:50:54] <ssi> or right around 100 anyway
[14:50:59] <PetefromTn_> woohoo just got mynew facemill arbor and it looks good
[14:51:08] <PetefromTn_> what is?
[14:51:17] <ssi> the stmbl servo drives
[14:51:24] <Wolf_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lmdq7lto8lckwnc/Photo%20Apr%2018%2C%205%2024%2015%20PM.jpg?dl=0 I really need to make a low profile flatbed for this thing
[14:51:54] <ssi> what's the capacity of that bed on that truck
[14:52:04] <Wolf_> 13,000
[14:52:10] <ssi> shit seriously?
[14:52:13] <ssi> what's the gvwr?
[14:52:26] <Wolf_> if I don’t care about the gvw yeah lol
[14:52:28] <malcom2073> Jesus, can it lift that much into the hook?
[14:52:29] <ssi> haha
[14:52:46] <ssi> gvwr doesn't matter so long as you never get in an accident and kill someone :)
[14:52:48] <Wolf_> 19,500 gvwt
[14:52:55] <Wolf_> gvwr*
[14:53:16] <Wolf_> curb is around 9k ish depending on the bed
[14:53:28] <ssi> that would suit my needs pretty well :P
[14:53:41] <ssi> although I'd prefer a flatbed
[14:53:59] <Wolf_> its a hook, have what ever bed ya want
[14:54:31] <ssi> sure
[14:54:52] <Wolf_> thats just a $700 craigslist dump bed on a skid lol
[14:55:10] <Wolf_> which I use for salt spreading
[14:56:57] <Wolf_> we had a F650 w/ a 16’ hook on it also
[14:59:26] <malcom2073> Hmm, it says my steppers are out for delivery, but usps has already come today and didn't have them
[15:00:50] <XXCoder> malcom2073: yeah ups suck on properly updating status
[15:00:57] <malcom2073> XXCoder: But it never came
[15:01:01] <XXCoder> one guy had camera and it showed nobody showed up
[15:01:11] <XXCoder> yet it was marked attempted
[15:01:13] <malcom2073> Heh
[15:01:16] <XXCoder> next day guy come in
[15:01:19] <malcom2073> usps sucks in general
[15:01:29] <malcom2073> my guess is, the 15lb package is too big, and the maillady is lazy
[15:01:31] <XXCoder> I like usps better than ups
[15:01:55] <XXCoder> better than that ups guy who threw tv over fence
[15:04:31] <Wolf_> ssi: I was planning on building a flatbed to work like https://www.dropbox.com/s/z37ihgfpcy1sh4v/IMG_0124.PNG?dl=0
[15:04:42] <Wolf_> just not long enough for a car...
[15:05:04] <ssi> mostly what I want it for is my forklift, and for machines
[15:05:11] <ssi> but being able to move cars occasinoally would be nice
[15:05:16] <ssi> that's sorta why I'm thinking about the rollback
[15:05:29] <ssi> althogh that F450 rollback isn't nearly big enough to move my forklift
[15:06:06] <malcom2073> https://baltimore.craigslist.org/hvd/5242888942.html
[15:06:19] <ssi> damn
[15:06:21] <ssi> now you're talking
[15:06:24] <malcom2073> I should buy that
[15:06:26] <XXCoder> non cdl
[15:06:38] <malcom2073> Which mean it's misregistered heh
[15:06:48] <malcom2073> Ah nm, it's hydraulic brakes
[15:06:52] <malcom2073> could possibly be non cdl
[15:06:57] <aventtini6> hello
[15:07:02] <ssi> you can have air brakes on a non cdl truck if it's under 26kgwvr
[15:07:09] <XXCoder> malcom2073: it directly says that
[15:07:12] <malcom2073> I thought you still needed a license cert
[15:07:15] <Wolf_> pic doesn’t match the description
[15:07:32] <ssi> yea title says box truck :P
[15:07:42] <malcom2073> Heh
[15:07:45] <malcom2073> could be they're just idiots
[15:07:47] <malcom2073> idiots == money
[15:07:51] <malcom2073> or rather, sometimes == good deals
[15:08:04] <Wolf_> description says fiberglass dually bed
[15:08:22] <malcom2073> Meh
[15:08:30] <ssi> lol title says box truck, desc says dually bed, pic says rollback
[15:08:38] <Wolf_> whole listing is fucked
[15:08:39] <ssi> put it all together and it says "scam"
[15:08:46] <malcom2073> Hmm, apparently I could get a mid 80's rollback for $2500
[15:08:57] <malcom2073> I've driven mid 80's trucks though, no thanks
[15:09:16] <Wolf_> https://baltimore.craigslist.org/for/5235229552.html
[15:09:24] <Wolf_> I know where that truck is :D
[15:09:27] <malcom2073> heh
[15:09:42] <malcom2073> https://harrisburg.craigslist.org/cto/5250316366.html
[15:11:41] <malcom2073> only $1100 for a rebuild kit for that engine
[15:11:55] <membiblio> Where is the logfile for linuxCNC located at?
[15:12:01] <malcom2073> zlog
[15:13:08] <PetefromTn_> LOL just heard on the news that movie theater patronage is at an all time low. Less people are going out to the movies now than ever.
[15:13:19] <PetefromTn_> Jeez I wonder why that is??
[15:13:53] <PetefromTn_> maybe it is because they SCREW YOU out of every last dollar and overcharge the living piss out of everything they sell at the candy counter???
[15:14:08] <Wolf_> plus the movies suck
[15:14:28] <PetefromTn_> actually I don't think the movies are the problem at all
[15:14:35] <ssi> Wolf_: ok here we are
[15:14:48] <ssi> Wolf_: with everything coming from digikey that they have in stock, it's $759.61 from digikey
[15:14:49] <PetefromTn_> I took the wife and kids to the movies the other week and spent like $75
[15:14:52] <ssi> that's all but four parts
[15:14:58] <XXCoder> I always pull a han solo at movie threates
[15:15:01] <XXCoder> because fuck em
[15:15:02] <ssi> the other four parts from mouser are $148.97
[15:15:11] <ssi> so just over $900 total
[15:15:12] <Wolf_> thats for all 10 right?
[15:15:14] <ssi> yes
[15:15:28] <ssi> that's 10 of each part, and more for the passives that are cheap in bulk
[15:15:29] <PetefromTn_> WTF are you guys talking about?
[15:15:36] <ssi> for instance we need 370 100n caps, that's with 500 ordered
[15:15:40] <ssi> whatever the next price break up is
[15:15:54] <PetefromTn_> you going into production on those drives or something?
[15:16:07] <ssi> PetefromTn_: I have ten boards coming, three are for Wolf
[15:16:20] <ssi> PetefromTn_: I need three for the mill and two for the lathe and that leaves me two spares
[15:16:38] <Contract_Pilot> Ahhhh almost packed up for gun show
[15:16:50] <PetefromTn_> apparently a crane fell over in Atlanta
[15:16:59] <ssi> Wolf_: I wasn't planning on actually ordering 10 sets of everything though, this is mostly to get a good idea of the per-unit cost in moderate qty
[15:17:08] <Wolf_> yeah
[15:17:10] <ssi> PetefromTn_: where, working on the new football stadium?
[15:17:25] <PetefromTn_> dunno said something like bullrun area or something>
[15:17:36] <PetefromTn_> looked like a HUGE crane
[15:17:56] <PetefromTn_> ssi so the last two are for my CNC lathe then? ;)
[15:17:59] <Wolf_> I was thinking loading my 3 with all the passives/cheap parts and loading one up full for now
[15:18:02] <ssi> PetefromTn_: maybe
[15:18:09] <ssi> Wolf_: yea that's what I'm thinking too
[15:18:22] <PetefromTn_> oh man maybe? maybe doesn't really work for me...:D
[15:18:40] <ssi> Wolf_: I'll order all the passives and kit them up with your pcbs
[15:18:52] <ssi> PetefromTn_: you want to build a mostly-surface mount servo drive?
[15:18:59] <Contract_Pilot> Not looking forward to testing 30+ of thm drives and motors next week hahaha
[15:19:02] <ssi> PetefromTn_: and write software to make it work with hm2?
[15:19:32] <ssi> PetefromTn_: or do you want to buy your off-the-shelf teco drives and motors and make chips? :)
[15:19:49] <PetefromTn_> I see what you did there
[15:20:00] <ssi> PetefromTn_: https://github.com/rene-dev/stmbl
[15:20:10] <ssi> I'd be HAPPY to sell you a pair of them if you want to screw with it
[15:20:24] <Wolf_> Contract_Pilot: http://i.imgur.com/Mfk4r3h.jpg
[15:20:38] <PetefromTn_> yeah I have no way to build those
[15:20:57] <ssi> PetefromTn_: if we get them all sorted out, then eventually I'll make a run of them and you can buy a pair
[15:21:01] <ssi> if you still have the need
[15:21:12] <ssi> but right now it's pretty much experimental
[15:21:14] <PetefromTn_> :(
[15:21:15] <Contract_Pilot> been 4 weeks and mesa still out of stock on the 7I76
[15:21:21] <PetefromTn_> sux
[15:21:35] <PetefromTn_> but I probably just need to ante up for some DMM's I guess
[15:21:43] <ssi> how much are they
[15:22:09] <PetefromTn_> like $575 an axis
[15:22:16] <ssi> that's really not bad
[15:22:22] <PetefromTn_> no not really
[15:22:26] <ssi> motor/drive/cables?
[15:22:27] <PetefromTn_> thats 750 watt
[15:22:31] <PetefromTn_> yeah
[15:22:34] <ssi> yeah that's worth it
[15:22:38] <ssi> do they need external psu?
[15:22:46] <PetefromTn_> sure is but you need the cash to GET it LOL
[15:22:54] <PetefromTn_> don't think so
[15:23:06] <ssi> the only reason I'm screwing with this stuff is because I very strongly want to keep my existing motors on both machines
[15:23:13] <PetefromTn_> have not really investigated them fully yet
[15:23:24] <PetefromTn_> both machines?
[15:23:32] <ssi> yea the cinci and the hnc
[15:23:37] <PetefromTn_> ah
[15:23:37] <ssi> the hnc doesn't need to be changed
[15:23:40] <ssi> but eventually I Might like to
[15:23:51] <ssi> cause right now I'm using the stock ancient hiak drives and the huge 300lb 90vdc supply
[15:24:02] <PetefromTn_> https://atlanta.craigslist.org/sat/cto/5201972064.html ;)
[15:24:09] <ssi> these stmbl drives can use resolvers for feedback directly, so I could simplify that machine a lot
[15:24:27] <ssi> PetefromTn_: you shoppin now? :)
[15:24:42] <PetefromTn_> HHHhmmmmm Mebbe?
[15:24:53] <ssi> :)
[15:24:55] <PetefromTn_> I told you my wife likes those
[15:25:01] <ssi> they're cool cars
[15:25:03] <PetefromTn_> I was GONNA get a fiero
[15:25:13] <PetefromTn_> but I think some of those are actually four seaters
[15:25:15] <PetefromTn_> sorta
[15:25:24] <ssi> 2+2s yeah
[15:25:26] <ssi> but they're small in the back
[15:25:34] <PetefromTn_> yeah my kids are small
[15:25:38] <PetefromTn_> sorta
[15:25:39] <ssi> there were no factory 2+2 turbos I don't think
[15:25:48] <PetefromTn_> at least they could actually ride in it
[15:25:57] <PetefromTn_> yeah I would build it turbo I think
[15:26:07] <ssi> I can't decide if I want to BUILD this motor
[15:26:08] <PetefromTn_> just really looking into it now
[15:26:11] <ssi> or just buy a jdm motor and swap it
[15:26:26] <PetefromTn_> three letters.....
[15:26:32] <ssi> ?
[15:26:35] <PetefromTn_> 2JZ
[15:26:37] <PetefromTn_> :D
[15:26:40] <ssi> hah fuck that
[15:27:00] <ssi> it's already a complete 500hp twin turbo
[15:27:04] <ssi> zero reason to go down that road
[15:27:04] <PetefromTn_> I was talking to the guys at work about those car
[15:27:15] <Contract_Pilot> Mesa does have the ethernet 7I's
[15:27:23] <PetefromTn_> they said they are really nice cars and the motor is actually very good
[15:27:24] <ssi> Contract_Pilot: 7i76e?
[15:27:30] <ssi> PetefromTn_: it's a REALLY good engine
[15:27:32] <PetefromTn_> but they said it is a BITCH to work on
[15:27:50] <ssi> PetefromTn_: it's good to 600hp stock, and if I do performance rods and pistons, and a good balance job and machine work, 1500hp
[15:27:51] <PetefromTn_> very tight
[15:27:59] <ssi> not that I intend to put the air and fuel into it to make 1500hp
[15:28:12] <ssi> yes, it's a bitch to work on
[15:28:18] <PetefromTn_> they actually have a green one sitting behind the shop
[15:28:34] <PetefromTn_> its been sitting there for over a year now LOL
[15:28:37] <Contract_Pilot> Yea 7I76E
[15:28:50] <Contract_Pilot> Not sure if my PC can handel it.
[15:29:08] <ssi> Contract_Pilot: that'd be my only concern... you need a second nic and one of them needs to be a good low latency nic
[15:29:15] <PetefromTn_> said the guy paid $5k for it with an engine problem
[15:29:22] <ssi> I haven't messed with them at all, some of the other guys on here can probably give you guidance on whether your setup will work
[15:29:27] <ssi> PetefromTn_: lol sounds about like mine
[15:29:29] <PetefromTn_> then they pulled the motor to work on it and realized it was FUBAR
[15:29:42] <Contract_Pilot> Yea, no responce from mesa on 7i76 stock
[15:29:47] <PetefromTn_> so the car sits now and they have not heard from the guy for a long time
[15:29:49] <ssi> PetefromTn_: well the good news is you can get a jdm vg30dett for $1200-1400 delivered
[15:29:59] <PetefromTn_> crate motor?
[15:30:00] <ssi> with like 30-50k miles
[15:30:03] <ssi> no, a pull
[15:30:05] <PetefromTn_> oh used
[15:30:13] <PetefromTn_> thats reasonable
[15:30:17] <ssi> http://www.jdmenginezone.com/engine-details/nissan/300zx-vg30dett-90_95.html
[15:30:21] <PetefromTn_> probably get it for even less than that...
[15:30:30] <ssi> yeah they can be had cheap if you hunt
[15:30:34] <ssi> but they're all over the place sub 1500
[15:31:27] <PetefromTn_> my stepson Estevan had a red one sitting in my driveway for awhile..
[15:31:44] <PetefromTn_> but he did not have the cash to fix it so we wound up selling the dead carcass LOL
[15:31:47] <Contract_Pilot> When the motor pops in the H2 want to replace it with a diesel.
[15:32:09] <PetefromTn_> I have been wanting a toy to play with here and maybe try my skills at building a turbo car
[15:32:34] <Contract_Pilot> I guess the benz diesel is a good engine.
[15:32:40] <ssi> PetefromTn_: 300zx is a good turbo project car
[15:32:46] <ssi> PetefromTn_: the 80s ones are even better if you like the style
[15:32:54] <ssi> cause they're easier to work on and cheaper to make fast
[15:32:57] <Sync> ssi: is there a reason why they are so cheap?
[15:33:06] <ssi> Sync: the jdm engines?
[15:33:10] <Sync> ye
[15:33:19] <ssi> Sync: I've heard that there was some emissions thing in japan that took tons of them off the road
[15:33:33] <ssi> so there's lots of low miles sports car engines from the 80s and 90s that got pulled and shipped here
[15:33:37] <PetefromTn_> naah I don't like the early 300's at all
[15:33:53] <PetefromTn_> if I was going to get one of those I would look for an much older 240/260
[15:33:55] <ssi> PetefromTn_: well a good running 300zxtt is $15k+ these days
[15:34:07] <ssi> you can either buy a blow'd up tt like I did, or buy an NA and swap it
[15:34:08] <PetefromTn_> yeah I want a project car for cheap
[15:34:12] <Contract_Pilot> Japan sucks for auto's and even worse then usa for aircraft.
[15:34:23] <ssi> Contract_Pilot: what, from a regulation standpoint?
[15:34:26] <Contract_Pilot> when you fly in they actually test your fuel.
[15:34:29] <ssi> lol
[15:34:29] <PetefromTn_> something like that one I just posted
[15:34:37] <ssi> PetefromTn_: I got the one you need
[15:34:44] <Contract_Pilot> and any airport that you land an inspector can test your fuel.
[15:34:49] <PetefromTn_> yeah
[15:34:51] <PetefromTn_> where?
[15:34:55] <ssi> sec
[15:35:32] <ssi> http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/5254296814.html
[15:35:38] <Contract_Pilot> Yea, friend in japan said you have to replace your engine at 30K or somthing
[15:35:38] <ssi> get that one, and I'll give you $1500 to swap interior with me
[15:35:47] <Contract_Pilot> in your auto.
[15:35:52] <ssi> Contract_Pilot: that's stupid
[15:36:02] <ssi> Contract_Pilot: they do that with houses too... once the mortgage is up, they tear them down and rebuild
[15:36:05] <ssi> everything's disposable
[15:36:33] <PetefromTn_> thats a pretty sweet one
[15:36:38] <ssi> PetefromTn_: that one is GORGEOUS
[15:36:43] <ssi> and the superwhite/red interior is rare and desirable
[15:36:56] <ssi> my interior's not bad, but it's worn and the driver seat and door panel have bad spots
[15:37:11] <PetefromTn_> I am gonna have to find a beater probably if I get one at all
[15:37:18] <Sync> Contract_Pilot: it's not really that way, but close apparently
[15:37:20] <PetefromTn_> something more like that one I posted probably
[15:37:22] <ssi> z32s are hard to find cheap
[15:37:27] <Wolf_> in some areas, maybe take the houses down to put in something more space efficient
[15:37:32] <ssi> z31s are even getting expensive
[15:37:34] <PetefromTn_> my sons was actually not bad but it needed paint BAD
[15:37:39] <Contract_Pilot> I miss my 3000GT VR4
[15:37:55] <ssi> Contract_Pilot: they're fun cars if you can keep the transmisison in one piece :)
[15:37:56] <PetefromTn_> Gotta go BBL we can chat cars LOL
[15:38:16] <Contract_Pilot> Yea, somone smashed mine in a parking lot...
[15:38:20] <Contract_Pilot> hit and run.
[15:38:23] <ssi> and i'm sorta over the awd thing
[15:38:30] <ssi> the R was fun, but not as much fun as a twitchy rwd Z
[15:39:14] <Contract_Pilot> The clutch i had installed was multi disk in the VR4
[15:39:34] <Contract_Pilot> Ins gave me 3k for a 18,000 car
[15:39:44] <ssi> uggghhh
[15:40:04] <Contract_Pilot> that was after my 400.00 buy back
[15:40:04] <ssi> damn I found pete's car
[15:40:05] <ssi> http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/5268249186.html
[15:40:16] <ssi> needs right rear quarter bodywork like every other rwd nissan in the world
[15:40:25] <ssi> COMES WITH THE TITANIUM KEY :'(
[15:40:36] <Contract_Pilot> Mine was left rear on the 3000gt
[15:40:58] <ssi> that one is really perfect for him
[15:41:01] <Contract_Pilot> Bent the strut tower and rear stearing was never right
[15:41:02] <ssi> 2+2, manual
[15:41:03] <ssi> cheap
[15:41:37] <Sync> yeah Contract_Pilot, it is sad, but usually you can salvage shit
[15:42:01] <Contract_Pilot> Yea, sold to a club in neveada for a parts car.
[15:42:23] <ssi> I want the titanium key so bad :P
[15:42:32] <ssi> if I get this car going I'll probably buy one of the replicas from Z1 and cut it
[15:42:35] <Contract_Pilot> they cust the left rear off and replaced it with another
[15:43:01] <Sync> pure marketing ssi :D
[15:43:09] <ssi> YES AND IT WORKS :)
[15:43:28] <Contract_Pilot> I guess the things are spot welded togather.
[15:46:18] <Contract_Pilot> Ok, back to work.
[15:46:42] <XXCoder> ssi: curious why want that key?
[15:46:56] <ssi> XXCoder: it's just cool :)
[15:47:06] <XXCoder> lol it is that I suppose
[15:47:11] <Sync> you can even anodize it in funny colors
[15:47:15] <ssi> https://www.z1motorsports.com/images/Z32TiKeyColored300zx.jpg
[15:47:43] <ssi> z1 sells blanks for $39 apiece :P
[15:48:09] <XXCoder> cheap in name of cool
[15:48:13] <XXCoder> lol
[15:48:31] <ssi> I have a key machine
[15:48:37] <ssi> I actually cut a copy for that car last night
[15:48:46] <XXCoder> nice, how expensive is it anyway
[15:48:52] <ssi> the key machine? mine was free :P
[15:49:05] <XXCoder> lol ok
[15:49:17] <XXCoder> aliexpress has em pretty cheap but really I dont need one lol
[15:49:49] <ssi> http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/5268136300.html that's a pretty nice looking tt for the money
[15:51:04] <Sync> I always wonder, did the golf4 get the groove key already in the usdm?
[15:52:00] <ssi> you mean like this? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Volkswagen_internal_cut_key.jpg
[15:52:18] <Sync> yep
[15:52:22] <ssi> yeah they've had that for ages
[15:52:27] <ssi> I'm on my third new VW, and all three of them had it
[15:52:32] <ssi> first one was a 2006
[15:53:08] <cradek> my '03 has that style, except it flips out of the end of the remote
[15:53:22] <ssi> cradek: yeah all mine flip out of the fob too
[15:53:25] <ssi> that image is a valet key
[15:53:26] <Wolf_> mine has one of them, and no ignition switch…
[15:53:31] <ssi> I just couldn't find a good picture of the fob
[15:53:59] <ssi> my first two came with valet keys, the latest one didn't
[15:54:28] <Sync> yeah because I always feel like the usdm cars used shitty keys forever
[15:54:46] <ssi> the newest high end vws all have KESSY
[15:54:47] <XXCoder> it was slow adoption thats for sure
[15:54:49] <ssi> so the keys are gone
[15:55:06] <ssi> my R had KESSY on the navi model, but I had a base model
[15:55:07] <Wolf_> ^ mine has Kessy
[15:55:08] <XXCoder> mines still classical type, no rfid and so on.
[15:55:08] <ssi> "only" 33k
[15:55:09] <ssi> :P
[15:55:22] <XXCoder> one thing I hate about new keys is high price.
[15:55:26] <zeeshan> ssi did you get the 300zx
[15:55:31] <ssi> zeeshan: duh
[15:55:40] <zeeshan> nice
[15:55:44] <zeeshan> :)
[15:55:47] <ssi> zeeshan: and a two post lift
[15:55:52] <ssi> I just have to get it installed
[15:56:27] <zeeshan> my concrete has sank 25 thou
[15:56:31] <ssi> lol
[15:56:31] <zeeshan> since the new lathe
[15:56:38] <zeeshan> im monitoring it
[15:56:43] <zeeshan> to seeif it stablizes
[15:56:47] <zeeshan> so befareful with your lift!
[15:56:49] <Wolf_> lol
[15:57:01] <ssi> zeeshan: if the cinci hasn't caused a problem I doubt the lift will :P
[15:58:05] <ssi> zeeshan: roommate and I are talking about a road trip to toronto sometime in the next six weeks
[15:58:27] <Sync> it it selfcontained or do you need high strength concrete?
[15:58:37] <ssi> Sync: no clue :)
[15:58:47] <Sync> zeeshan: checked your ground pressure allowance?
[16:00:48] <ssi> k goin home
[16:14:16] <zeeshan> sync
[16:14:21] <zeeshan> i aint hiring a soil engineer
[16:14:25] <zeeshan> to get the psf for my soil!
[16:14:29] <zeeshan> i do it the redneck way
[16:14:41] <zeeshan> put the machine on and monitor the sink :)
[16:15:11] <zeeshan> the concrete isn't the problem, its the soil under it :(
[16:15:19] <zeeshan> well technically if the concrete had rebar
[16:15:26] <zeeshan> it woulda been better, so i gues concrete is problem too
[16:16:36] <Sync> well, not that you crack your garage or house
[16:17:49] <zeeshan> garage is a floating slab
[16:17:55] <zeeshan> not part of concrete for house
[16:18:24] <zeeshan> i have my indicator attached to the wall (which is part of the footings for the house foundation
[16:18:31] <zeeshan> and i got the indicator tip on the floor which is the floating slab
[16:18:43] <zeeshan> and i measured 25 thou over 3 days
[16:18:50] <zeeshan> im really hoping it stablizes
[16:19:27] * Wolf_ thinks the house is lifting
[16:19:54] <Sync> obviously
[16:21:32] <Sync> stop huffing helium
[16:21:38] <zeeshan> hehe
[16:22:18] <Wolf_> solution is obvious, need more machines inside the house to get the sink rate equal
[16:23:02] <zeeshan> lol
[16:23:07] <zeeshan> haha
[16:23:21] <zeeshan> that is a very valid solution
[16:26:09] <andypugh> Your slab will sink 1” in 3 years. You can probably live with that :-)
[16:27:05] <zeeshan> HONESTLY, FOR MY NEW PLACE
[16:27:15] <zeeshan> ER. CAPS. IM RAFTING.
[16:27:18] <zeeshan> drafting
[16:27:29] <membiblio> So no one here knows if linuxcnc outputs to a logfile and where that logfile might be?
[16:28:10] <zeeshan> for my new place i want to do a 8" slab that is reinforced, with really compacted soil+gravel under it
[16:28:20] <andypugh> membiblio: I didn’t see the question.
[16:28:37] <andypugh> If you turn on debugging in the INI then there is a log file.
[16:29:29] <membiblio> andypugh - thank you - how and which config file?
[16:29:34] <Sync> zeeshan: 8" seems thin
[16:29:46] <zeeshan> reinforced!
[16:29:50] <andypugh> The INI file. Each config only has one INI file.
[16:30:00] <membiblio> andypugh - I also just discovered if you launch linuxcnc from a command line all the debug and errors dump to the console.
[16:30:18] <andypugh> Yes, but you can exapnd that
[16:30:30] <Sync> what load will that take per m²?
[16:30:38] <andypugh> membiblio: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/ini-config.html#_emc_section
[16:30:55] <zeeshan> around 6000psf
[16:30:57] <membiblio> andypugh - thank you :)
[16:31:06] <zeeshan> m^2 yuck! :P
[16:32:35] <Sync> sounds about right, if you use fibre concrete
[16:32:36] <Deejay> gn8
[16:38:10] <Sync> yeah if your soil can take it, why not
[16:39:55] <Erant> Aww. I was hoping to make some chips this weekend, but it looks like Mesa is too swamped.
[16:40:19] <Erant> I'm almost tempted to go grab this Galil motion controller I saw at a electronics shop.
[16:41:33] <Erant> Or I'll just software step it _really_ slowly.
[16:47:11] <JT-Shoppe> now if I can finger out how to git pull my project to this computer
[16:47:33] <malcom2073> If you've never done it, you want to clone
[16:47:39] <malcom2073> git clone https://github.com/user/project
[16:58:42] <JT-Shoppe> ah ok
[16:59:48] <JT-Shoppe> aww crumb did it in the wrong directory
[17:00:42] <Tom_itx> then once you git checkout you can git pull
[17:01:11] <Tom_itx> and git branch to see what branch you're on
[17:01:32] <Tom_itx> just don't saw from the wrong side
[17:02:13] <JT-Shoppe> malcom2073, thanks
[17:03:22] <Jymmm> Remember... Measure once, Cut twice!
[17:03:31] <Jymmm> and
[17:03:43] <Jymmm> If it's too short, cut again!
[17:06:07] <Tom_itx> damn okies are sitting on my package an extra day..
[17:09:55] <JT-Shoppe> funny thing I opened that github account over 2 years ago but never did anything
[17:10:04] <JT-Shoppe> Tom_itx, what are you getting?
[17:15:28] <Wolf_> nice, replacement control board showed up for the sewing motor but its not the same as the one I blew up >.< go figure
[17:21:13] <malcom2073> Haha my walmart steppers showed up, they included a *very* tiny piece of bubble wrap in the box, otherwise it was not padded
[17:21:21] <malcom2073> one of the stepper shafts went through the driver box and smacked the driver
[17:21:24] <malcom2073> Dummies
[17:21:46] <roycroft> that is irrelevant
[17:21:55] <roycroft> the secured your money well when you bought them
[17:21:58] <roycroft> that is all that matters
[17:22:44] <andypugh> malcom2073: Any damage?
[17:22:46] <malcom2073> Fortunatly they have free shipping on returns, and garunteed refund/replacement :)
[17:23:03] <malcom2073> andypugh: Looks like it hit one of the connectors, unsure if it damaged it internally or not, I'll try it out this weekend and find out for sure
[17:23:08] <malcom2073> Probably fine
[17:23:32] <Wolf_> my box was the same. few of the stepper wires are mushed
[17:23:48] <malcom2073> I'm amazed though
[17:23:58] <malcom2073> They changed their price to $122 now :)
[17:24:01] <malcom2073> instead of yanno... $8
[17:24:21] <malcom2073> They're pretty beefy looking nema 23's too
[17:24:47] <Wolf_> yeah, mine look to be almost as big as the 425oz in I have now
[17:25:43] <andypugh> malcom2073: Lucky for you that they didn’t just say that they had the price wrong and cancel, like the eBay guys who wouldn’t let me have their brand-new $1000 servo for the £32 it was listed at.
[17:25:57] <malcom2073> Haha
[17:26:00] <malcom2073> Yeah
[17:26:19] <malcom2073> It's very weird, but I actually got hardware, so I can't complain
[17:26:34] <malcom2073> These are gonna run my tabletop router just perfect
[17:27:00] <JT-Shoppe> is there a command to open a terminal in some directory so I don't have to cd a dozen times
[17:27:24] <malcom2073> JT-Shoppe: Some desktops have it in the right click menu "open terminal here"
[17:27:46] <malcom2073> You can also use tab complete to make it easier: ~$ cd code/MyTest/Wee/SomethingElse
[17:27:47] <Tom_itx> JT-Shoppe, just a flashlight
[17:27:57] <JT-Shoppe> I'll be darn it does have that
[17:28:00] <JT-Shoppe> thanks again
[17:28:14] <malcom2073> https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/t31.0-8/12113351_1150045931676453_5260746845841320983_o.jpg
[17:28:17] <malcom2073> That's the damage, very minimal
[17:28:34] <Erant> You'll be fine.
[17:29:08] <malcom2073> Their packing job: https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/t31.0-8/12109977_1150045868343126_4032122556760697918_o.jpg
[17:29:37] <Tom_itx> JT-Shoppe, http://www.fenix-store.com/fenix-hl23-led-headlamp-gold/
[17:29:43] <malcom2073> Not a bad haul for $35: https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/12140878_1150045925009787_7097938649524901454_o.jpg
[17:29:45] <andypugh> Those are quite big 23s aren’t they
[17:30:06] <malcom2073> Yeah
[17:30:09] <Wolf_> http://i.imgur.com/Mfk4r3h.jpg $71
[17:30:11] <malcom2073> I was expecting shorter stacks
[17:30:15] <JT-Shoppe> triple stack?
[17:30:34] <malcom2073> JT-Shoppe: Unsure how to tell?
[17:30:50] <Wolf_> + $12 for the two PSU
[17:30:54] <Tom_itx> malcom2073, who shipped those?
[17:30:58] <JT-Shoppe> dang if I know except looking at photos on automation direct
[17:31:38] <malcom2073> Tom_itx: Tasharina Corp AKA Unique Bargains, from walmart
[17:31:47] <Wolf_> take one of them apart? lol
[17:31:51] <Tom_itx> yeah those were a steal
[17:31:52] <malcom2073> Oddly enough, these shipped from NJ, my second set shipped from china
[17:32:12] <Wolf_> lol, same with mine, NJ shipped
[17:32:49] <malcom2073> After dealing with my nema34's though, these feel so small
[17:34:34] <Wolf_> yeah
[17:36:29] <Tom_itx> my double stacks are about 2 7/8" long if that give you a clue
[17:39:04] <Contract_Pilot> Any issues with damage just e-mail them they will send you a replacement.
[17:39:23] <Contract_Pilot> I am still waiting on mine from china.
[17:39:37] <Contract_Pilot> One is in chicago one is in new jersy. '
[17:39:42] <malcom2073> Heh
[17:40:29] <Contract_Pilot> One walmart order they claiming they sent 2 in 1 pack clearly by weight no it was just a PSU 2lbs would have been 3-4 lbs or more.
[17:41:03] <Wolf_> go figure, one of mine is in ISC LOS ANGELES CA (USPS)
[17:41:04] <Contract_Pilot> Back to video'ing unboxings again.
[17:41:37] <Contract_Pilot> Yea on the main tracking link i posted tells you what port is is being shipped to.
[17:42:02] <Contract_Pilot> Atleast they shipped his in a box not bags.
[17:42:10] <malcom2073> Haha yeah
[17:42:16] <malcom2073> We'll see what my china one is like
[17:42:18] <malcom2073> that one may be in bags
[17:42:22] <malcom2073> it'll be here in aweek or two
[17:42:31] <Contract_Pilot> Yea,
[17:42:49] <Contract_Pilot> Total of 29 from china on the way hahaha
[17:43:08] <Contract_Pilot> Wallet was fat that day.
[17:43:31] <Tom_itx> lcnc can do 9 axis at a time
[17:43:35] <malcom2073> lol
[17:43:40] <Tom_itx> guess you'll have to timeshare
[17:43:47] <Wolf_> lol
[17:43:54] <malcom2073> If you can afford the CAM software to do 9 axis, you're probably not using lcnc :P
[17:44:02] <Tom_itx> true
[17:44:03] <Contract_Pilot> Ok, off to the expo ro set up gun show table.
[17:44:59] <Wolf_> that many steppers you could make one heck of a halloween display :D
[17:49:41] <malcom2073> This weekend I'll have my mill up and running, if I can locate a vice or some holddowns, I'll be able to start making adapter plates to stick these motors on my small router, stuff is moving along fast now :-D
[18:07:38] <Wolf_> could mill some hold downs, if you had some hold downs
[18:09:32] <malcom2073> :)
[18:09:44] <malcom2073> I may just borrow 3-4 of my dads, he has a whole set
[18:09:53] <Wolf_> harbor junk
[18:10:14] <PetefromTn_> malcom2073 congrats man
[18:47:37] <JT-Shoppe> PetefromTn_, see you this weekend
[18:50:37] <PetefromTn_> oh yeah cool
[18:52:06] <JT-Shoppe> I'll text you when we arrive
[18:52:13] <JT-Shoppe> shutting this down now
[19:28:18] <ssi> hm
[19:33:11] <ssi> wow what a mess
[19:41:35] <PetefromTn_> heh
[19:41:54] <ssi> :P
[19:45:44] <Tom_itx> well stop kickin the plug!
[19:46:02] <ssi> SORRY
[19:46:03] <ssi> GOSH
[19:48:07] <Wolf_> I think zeeshan plugged in the lathe
[19:48:13] <ssi> lol
[19:48:49] <zeeshan|2> lol
[19:48:53] <zeeshan|2> shuddap
[19:48:54] <zeeshan|2> :P
[19:49:19] <ssi> he shorted something and that 750A service he ran didn't pop
[19:49:21] <ssi> but the internet went away
[19:49:38] <Tom_itx> took out the whole of the northern hemisphere!
[19:49:43] <zeeshan|2> ssi you know whats funny
[19:49:45] <zeeshan|2> i am sizing breakers
[19:49:47] <zeeshan|2> at work :D
[19:49:49] <zeeshan|2> sometimes
[21:00:38] <fenn> wow steel cutting circular saw blades http://youtu.be/blQAe51F6oM
[21:01:30] <fenn> i wonder if it cuts stainless
[21:01:31] <Wolf_> I have a 14” cold saw
[21:01:44] <fenn> not a "cold saw" these are high RPM
[21:02:46] <fenn> goes in place of a regular woodworking saw or abrasive cutoff saw
[21:06:20] <Tom_itx> saw similar in that log video earlier only a circular blade
[21:07:08] <Wolf_> hmm guess so, my dry cut only runs at 1500
[21:08:16] <fenn> Tom_itx: yeah the golf cart sawmill video is where i found out about it
[22:08:41] <Jymmmm> Tom_itx: WHERE'S *MY* LIGHT DAMNIT?!?!?!
[22:13:50] <Jymmmm> fenn: $52 from Lowes
[22:14:03] <Jymmmm> for 7.25" blade
[22:14:37] <Jymmmm> " Saw blade can be resharpened "
[22:14:47] <Jymmmm> http://www.lowes.com/pd_208735-28303-21894KST714040CT_0__?productId=3452936
[22:17:08] <Wolf_> I use to take my 14” dry cut blades to fastenal and have them sent out to be sharpened
[22:17:35] <Contract_Pilot> Carbide blades make good cut off tools
[22:18:11] <Jymmmm> titanium even better
[22:18:38] <Wolf_> huh
[22:19:32] <Jymmmm> Wolf_: read the desc @ lowes
[22:21:51] <Wolf_> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00008WQ3E?colid=17DSS1ER9A6EV&coliid=I1YKFFTYPCK38P&psc=1&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl
[22:22:25] <Wolf_> I have had that on my amazon list for 3 years now…
[22:56:04] <Contract_Pilot> got a refund from walmart??
[22:56:21] <Contract_Pilot> 9 of them darn it.
[23:01:05] <Wolf_> guess they figured they sent enough to ya
[23:02:47] <Contract_Pilot> Yea.
[23:05:10] <Contract_Pilot> Darn was hoping in at least 2 more guarenteed big motors.
[23:05:23] <Contract_Pilot> no telling whats coming form china.
[23:05:43] <Wolf_> yeah :/
[23:06:32] <Wolf_> I have that one nema23 78oz listed one otw w/ china tracking
[23:06:51] <Contract_Pilot> I have 20 of them.
[23:07:10] <Contract_Pilot> Should be the larger ones as the part number and photo are of the larger ones.
[23:07:47] <Contract_Pilot> Either way should be able to sell them off and get what I want.
[23:08:08] <Wolf_> also have 5x nema17 74oz otw
[23:08:23] <Wolf_> which I have no idea what to do with lol
[23:14:20] <Contract_Pilot> Somone here was loooking for the nema 17s
[23:14:31] <Contract_Pilot> Maybe we all can do some swapping.
[23:19:12] <MacGalempsy> hello
[23:21:46] <MacGalempsy> malcom2073: saw your new pics on FB. what are those bad boys for?
[23:29:45] <Praesmeodymium> the 3dprinter guys love nema 17s
[23:29:56] <Praesmeodymium> pretty much cheapest motor you can get
[23:30:26] <Praesmeodymium> I mean that isnt for a dr or something equally tiny
[23:43:46] <CaptHindsight> maybe the FDM printer guys, not the SLA, SLS, DMLS, Inkjet etc 3d printers
[23:44:44] <Praesmeodymium> yeah
[23:45:11] <Praesmeodymium> well my sla printer has a single nema 17 on it
[23:46:04] <CaptHindsight> they should just be called YHP = Yoda Head Printers