#linuxcnc | Logs for 2015-06-24

[02:13:47] <Deejay> moin
[04:54:16] <Loetmichel2> *meh* broke the last 1.2mm twoflute bit... but i have plenty of broken tungsten carbide shafts... so i ground myseldf a cylindircal engraving bit... works surprisingly well ;-) -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=15847
[04:54:28] <XXCoder> yo
[05:10:46] <XXCoder> Loetmichel2: whats you making
[05:15:32] <XXCoder> okay top secret I see heh later
[05:58:18] <Loetmichel2> XXCoder: adapteers DVCI to 26 pin HD
[05:58:26] <Loetmichel2> DVI
[05:58:36] <Loetmichel2> Dsu-hd
[05:58:43] <Loetmichel2> dSub
[05:58:59] <Loetmichel2> not secret, working ;-)
[06:15:51] <Loetmichel2> XXCoder: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=15850
[06:29:59] <Dimroy> bonjour a tous !
[06:35:04] <MacGalempsy> first print in 1.5 yrs and it came out recognizable! woohoo
[06:43:49] <MrSunshine> well so does a roadkill also .. in most cases
[06:43:50] <MrSunshine> :P
[08:53:21] <furrywolf> Ugh... making a list of all the new parts I've installed on this subaru in case the insurance company doesn't believe I've restored it... a full page of 12pt single-spaced type and growing.
[08:54:37] <SpeedEvil> furrywolf: :/
[08:54:46] <SpeedEvil> furrywolf: Do you have any pics?
[08:55:20] <SpeedEvil> I wonder if listing it on CL - or wherever, and seeing if you get any interest at a reasonable price would be relevant
[08:55:51] <SpeedEvil> Back I assume is getting stiffer?
[08:55:55] <furrywolf> No pics, and no one would want a ruined car. heh.
[08:55:55] <furrywolf> yes
[08:56:12] <SpeedEvil> I mean - not say it's ruined
[08:56:59] <furrywolf> The worst part is the condition the body was in... I looked for two years to find one in this good of condition. The only comparable car I could find is listed on ebay for $5k, and it's only a 2-wheel-drive!
[08:57:09] <furrywolf> I had to buy it from out of state and have it shipped here
[08:57:24] <furrywolf> As far as I know, it was the best-condition '80s subaru in northern california...
[08:57:49] <SpeedEvil> Pictures of the common rust points might be useful, as might the ebay listing.
[08:58:39] <furrywolf> When I got it, it didn't run, and I knew that when I bought it... still paid quite a bit of money, plus transport and out-of-state registration, because of how clean the body was.
[09:00:04] <furrywolf> I've replaced, among other things, the distributor, starter motor, carburetor parts (rebuild), entire steering column, brake rotors, brake calipers, brake hoses, brake master cylinder, fan switch and wiring, clutch cable, etc, etc, etc...
[09:00:34] <SpeedEvil> Jeeze.
[09:02:28] <furrywolf> emergency brake cable, cruise control switch, stereo (fancy aftermarket one, new wiring to all four doors and to the battery, etc), hubcaps (some missing), sandblasted and painted rims, rekeyed ignition and had new key made up from key code, a window regulator, all four headlights, detailed inside, outside, and under hood,...
[09:02:58] <SpeedEvil> Question is - what would you have spent on one in that condition.
[09:03:56] <furrywolf> way way too much. lol
[09:04:13] <furrywolf> the one on ebay for $5k is in similar condition, but is only a 2-wheel-drive, which is far, far less desirable.
[09:06:39] <furrywolf> And it's ugly tan. I had to look hard to get a good cherry red one. :)
[09:12:36] <malcom2073_> Gott love insurance companies. They just want to get you a set of wheels, they don't care if it's the same car or not. fortunatly, if you have time, the longer you refuse to accept their offer, the more desperate they get to close the claim.
[09:13:15] <malcom2073_> When I got rear ended, I made their insurance company keep sending me listings of cars until they finally sent me one with a price tag I liked heh
[09:25:29] <CaptHindsight> you're just another claim, and insurance companies are generally not run by altruists
[09:26:17] <MrFluffy> last time I dealt with insurance, the agent repairing the car made me sign a statement saying I'd never return there with any car ever in the future because apparently I was so much of a pain in the ass
[09:26:45] <MrFluffy> being a vehicle inspector for vauxhall motors at one point probably might have been something to do with that...
[09:26:53] <malcom2073_> I didn't mean they wanted to get you a new set of wheels because it's the right thing to do, rather because they are legally bound to resolve a claim within a certain period of time
[09:27:01] <malcom2073_> Haha nice
[09:27:31] <CaptHindsight> http://whitetrashrepairs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/3805.jpg good as new!
[09:28:04] <malcom2073_> Nice
[09:28:16] <_methods> wtf is that
[09:28:27] <_methods> buffalo skinned minivan
[09:47:32] <archivist_herron> thereIfixedit
[09:49:00] <archivist_herron> someone seems to have fixed this too http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SINE-BAR-LATHES-MILLING-ENGINEERING-TOOLS-ENGINEERING-MEASURMENT-/321787178446
[09:58:27] <furrywolf> eh? doesn't look too badly fixed, given as I can't spot any problems. (the sine bar, not the van)
[10:00:01] <MrFluffy> I was wondering where the rest of it was...
[10:04:02] <archivist_herron> normally the top is flat not at an angle
[10:05:31] <archivist_herron> parallel with the base contact like http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2014/2014_03_29_measuring_tools/IMG_1750.JPG
[10:07:32] <archivist_herron> and that one is not on http://what-when-how.com/metrology/sine-principle-and-sine-bars-metrology/
[11:00:21] <furrywolf> the top is flat. it's the bottom that's angled.
[11:01:01] <furrywolf> the distance between the top and the pins is the same on both ends
[11:01:58] <archivist> the spacing is odd too, they are normally 5" or 10" as that makes for nice numbers
[11:02:01] <furrywolf> http://lh4.ggpht.com/_X6JnoL0U4BY/S01YQukAX-I/AAAAAAAAEh8/5vSDlziI-ic/tmp433_thumb_thumb.png?imgmax=800 like that one on the page you pasted
[11:03:17] <furrywolf> 5.5" is 140mm?
[11:03:21] <archivist> note, the two bars are milled on the same plane on all the others, that is one oddball
[11:03:42] <furrywolf> it doesn't look odd or wrong to me...
[11:04:32] <furrywolf> note the thickness of the metal between the top and the round bars is the same. it's only the underside that has a slope to it, and doesn't affect the use.
[11:04:33] <archivist> the are made a specific way usually to make sure they are accurate
[11:05:20] <furrywolf> the parts that rest on the bars could well have been milled at the same time.
[11:06:08] <shaun413> hello, I have a chinese CNC router, running mach3 atm, you think linuxcnc would be better?
[11:06:36] <furrywolf> one of similar shape is shown in figure 8.18 of the page you pasted
[11:06:38] <ssi> that's a silly question
[11:06:49] <shaun413> why
[11:06:52] <archivist> ask the same question in the mach3 channel !
[11:07:26] <furrywolf> lol
[11:08:23] <shaun413> lol
[11:08:35] <shaun413> im using the free vz of mach3
[11:12:05] <malcom2073_> shaun413: You bought a router? Awesome, which one?
[11:12:14] <shaun413> its my jobs
[11:12:23] <malcom2073_> You got a job? Awesome, which one?
[11:12:33] <shaun413> lol pm malcom2073_
[11:12:49] * furrywolf should be at job right now, but can't move
[11:17:10] <furrywolf> right now I'm waiting for someone to pick me up and drive me to my other car so we can try getting it to an exhaust shop today...
[11:17:21] <norias> blah
[11:17:32] <norias> what's wrong with the car?
[11:17:55] <furrywolf> I got rear-ended yesterday. my subie is toast.
[11:18:19] <furrywolf> going to get my off-road project car on the road so I have a car to drive
[11:18:49] <norias> bummer
[11:18:57] <norias> what's wrong with exhuast on it?
[11:19:05] <furrywolf> doesn't have one.
[11:19:15] <norias> not even headers?
[11:19:54] <furrywolf> I put on the Y-pipe and cats by lots of cutting and welding of bends from the stock pipes, but from the cats back it needs to be bent, and I don't have a tube bender. I also don't have a muffler that fits it.
[11:21:02] <norias> no fun club
[11:22:27] <_methods> http://i2.wp.com/laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Loved_Him__34768.1430515135.1280.1280.jpg?fit=750%2C750
[11:22:43] <furrywolf> I can't do anything right now... can hardly walk.
[11:24:26] <furrywolf> "I loved him in star trek when he fought Will Robinson!"
[11:50:14] <JT-Shop> you can use my bender
[11:51:49] * JT-Shop feels like he just got back from a Gilligans Island adventure
[11:56:02] <zeeshan|2> furrywolf: what did i miss
[11:58:12] <JT-Shop> I see why my bike pump don't work... damn oring is too small to seal
[12:21:59] <ssi> wat
[12:26:28] <tjtr33> furrywolf, http://teecraze.tumblr.com/post/81690835616/the-dalek-lama-t-shirt
[12:38:32] <DaPeace> hellloooo :-)
[12:39:12] <DaPeace> anyone here that has connected an quadrature encoder to the parallelport to set feed overwrite or spindle overwrite? need a little help with that
[12:40:14] <archivist> there is a limit to the speed you can use the parallel port, I have done it though
[12:41:27] <DaPeace> ive already connected the poti to the lpt and is see a change in halmeter when i turn him but i think im wrong with my configuration cause the count-value is not changing
[12:41:47] <DaPeace> i took this example -> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Spindleoverride
[12:43:07] <archivist> use halscope to see if both signals are ok
[12:43:39] <DaPeace> i see that its turning true/false when i rotate them
[12:43:42] <DaPeace> that seems to work
[12:46:06] <archivist> then check for typos in your files
[12:48:58] <DaPeace> http://pastebin.com/RJDYZyUv
[12:49:02] <DaPeace> dont see any typos..
[12:54:34] <archivist> did you notice that page states it is in the postgui.hal
[12:55:13] <DaPeace> okay. so i will move it there and maybe it works then
[12:55:17] <archivist> so 3 files to be edited
[12:55:24] <DaPeace> 3 files?
[12:56:15] <archivist> the encoder line loadrt encoder num_chan=2 is in the main hal
[12:56:26] <DaPeace> ok.. i will put that there
[12:56:39] <archivist> and he put a bit in the ini
[13:04:19] <DaPeace> hmm.. strange.. if i use halshow i could watch all parameter of the encoder and only the two channels are changing when i rotate him
[13:21:44] <archivist> did you forget to set something sensible to encoder.N.position-scale
[13:42:49] <_methods> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qHdPhkSSNQ
[13:51:10] <JT-Shop> I need to start selling my free software
[13:51:43] <malcom2073_> +1
[13:53:49] <shaun413> +1
[13:53:57] <shaun413> give it to me first though
[13:54:59] <malcom2073_> shaun413: I'll sell you my free software
[13:55:10] <shaun413> Ok malcom2073_
[13:55:12] <shaun413> 50 dollars?
[13:55:22] <JT-Shop> you see the lathe software on the mailing list for $35.95
[13:56:03] <malcom2073_> JT-Shop: I'm not on the mailing list
[13:56:43] <malcom2073_> Is it linuxcnc repackaged?
[13:56:58] <JT-Shop> no just a G code generator
[14:02:59] <zeeshan-laptop> hi
[14:17:03] <JT-Shop> had a flat this morning out in the woods and the stupid pump would not work... took 2hrs to walk out and get a pump and walk back then fix the tire
[14:17:45] <JT-Shop> I tried mental telepathy to get a pump air lifted to my location but failed
[14:18:11] <malcom2073_> Doh, that sucks
[14:18:15] <JT-Shop> even more fun after I walked out I realized I had left my keys in the bike bag and was out of water!
[14:19:00] <JT-Shop> thanks to a timely rescue by my neighbor I got in before the real heat came
[14:19:10] <PCW> you were supposed to fix it with twigs and stones MacGyver style
[14:20:13] <JT-Shop> I'm going to get some twigs that have CO2 cartridges in them and a new pump
[14:20:58] <JT-Shop> you can't even walk the bike out with a flat the tires just fall off lol
[14:21:59] <JT-Shop> I carry a spare tube and a patch kit... but if the pump won't work your screwed
[14:23:01] <JT-Shop> this is where I ride http://a123.g.akamai.net/7/123/11558/abc123/forestservic.download.akamai.com/11558/www/nepa/71062_FSPLT2_023858.pdf
[14:23:11] <PCW> I'll bet there was some bad language when you found the pump didn't work
[14:23:31] <JT-Shop> lucky there is a forest service road kinda through the middle
[14:23:52] <JT-Shop> na, it's just a thing
[14:24:03] <JT-Shop> forget about it and start walking
[14:25:04] <JT-Shop> I was about a mile west of the center green square...
[14:25:10] <PCW> Dont think I've even had a bicycle pump fail
[14:26:02] <PCW> sometimes needed to expand the leather washer
[14:26:12] <JT-Shop> this is not a cheapo pump so I was a bit disappointed to say the least
[14:26:21] <JT-Shop> all 0-rings in this one
[14:30:31] * zeeshan-laptop is wiring apparatus
[14:32:45] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16g-Threaded-CO2-CARTRIDGES-cylinder-C02-gas-bottle-cycle-canister-FREE-PP-/131232500112?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=430495153956&hash=item1e8e110990
[14:49:17] <XXCoder> hey furrywolf sad that your car is totaled :(
[14:51:41] <XXCoder> Sometimes insurance will allow you keep your totaled car and pay you a little less. You could use parts or part out sell if payout sucks if they keep car.
[15:17:32] <Tom_itx> may have damaged the 7i47s as well :( guess i'll find out tonight
[15:51:51] <zeeshan-laptop> can someone help me quickly verify if something is outputting 4-20mA
[15:52:05] <zeeshan-laptop> there are 2 pins. pin 21 and pin 22.
[15:52:13] <zeeshan-laptop> the load is supposed to go across these pins
[15:52:29] <zeeshan-laptop> so i just put a resistor in series (600 ohm is max load impedance)
[15:52:39] <zeeshan-laptop> and i should be able to read it with a multimeter?
[15:58:46] <balestrino> how should i set 8i20 to run without a brake resistor?
[16:03:14] <Deejay> gn8
[16:21:53] <PCW> balestrino: You can get away without a brake resistor if
[16:21:54] <PCW> 1. you are not running close to the voltage limits (say you are testing at 150V)
[16:21:56] <PCW> 2. you have a large power supply output capacitor
[16:54:52] <zeeshan-laptop> http://i.imgur.com/NrRkVkW.png
[16:55:06] <zeeshan-laptop> i know one of you guys know this
[16:55:12] <zeeshan-laptop> if i put an ammeter where L is
[16:55:23] <zeeshan-laptop> would i measure 4-20mA ?
[16:55:41] <Rab> Sounds likely.
[16:55:46] <Rab> This might help: http://www.dataq.com/blog/faqs/4-20-ma-current-loop-measurements/
[16:55:46] <zeeshan-laptop> or would i need to put at least a 600 ohm resistor
[16:55:57] <zeeshan-laptop> before itll show something
[16:56:17] <Rab> An ammeter just has the resistor (shunt) built in.
[16:56:32] <zeeshan-laptop> yes but how to know how many ohms it is? :P
[16:57:05] <Rab> That doesn't matter for an ammeter.
[16:57:42] <Rab> If you're using a voltmeter, you would want to know the resistance of the shunt so you can calculate current from the voltage drop.
[16:57:50] <zeeshan-laptop> im getting 0mA
[16:57:53] <zeeshan-laptop> :{
[16:57:57] <zeeshan-laptop> o well
[16:57:59] <Rab> With the ammeter?
[16:58:02] <zeeshan-laptop> yes
[16:58:08] <zeeshan-laptop> i dont think i have the module for this controller
[16:58:14] <zeeshan-laptop> that outputs a 4-20mA signal
[16:58:19] <zeeshan-laptop> ill need to parallel the thermocouple
[16:58:20] <Rab> Have you tried 600R resistor + voltmeter?
[16:58:22] <zeeshan-laptop> and use an external amplifier
[16:58:26] <zeeshan-laptop> no
[16:58:31] <zeeshan-laptop> i dont have a 600 ohm resistor in the lab
[16:58:51] <Rab> It doesn't have to be 600R exactly.
[16:59:08] <zeeshan-laptop> ill have to bring some from home
[16:59:13] <zeeshan-laptop> will do that tomorrow
[16:59:27] <Rab> 470R, whatever. If you see a voltage across the resistor, there's current passing through it.
[16:59:58] <zeeshan-laptop> so i ground pin 22
[17:00:10] <zeeshan-laptop> and then put a resistor between 21 and ground
[17:00:14] <JT-Shop> http://www.dataq.com/blog/faqs/4-20-ma-current-loop-measurements/
[17:00:28] <zeeshan-laptop> and then measure voltage across resistor
[17:00:33] <JT-Shop> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC4QtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dey_fCuV4xt8&ei=FyOLVailKMrnoATEubegDw&usg=AFQjCNFZaz4AnzjvtAhHdTm2GUC1FXg8iQ&bvm=bv.96782255,d.cGU
[17:01:01] <Rab> zeeshan-laptop, why do you have to ground pin 22?
[17:01:11] <zeeshan-laptop> what do i do with it? :P
[17:01:16] <zeeshan-laptop> leave it empty?
[17:01:33] <Rab> Attach the resistor between pin 21 and 22.
[17:01:53] <zeeshan-laptop> okay
[17:02:18] <Rab> Do you have the manual for the controller? Or the model?
[17:03:04] <zeeshan-laptop> http://downloads.omron.eu/IAB/Products/Control%20Components/Temperature%20Controllers/Advanced%20Controllers/E5_K,%20E5_K-T/H085/H085-E1-03+E5EK+UsersManual.pdf
[17:03:08] <Rab> This guy in the video has a great voice.
[17:03:16] <zeeshan-laptop> e5ek-aa2b
[17:05:32] <zeeshan-laptop> http://www.amazon.com/Omron-E53-AKF-Digital-Controller-T23309/dp/B005T8HVRI
[17:05:34] <zeeshan-laptop> i think i need this
[17:05:43] <zeeshan-laptop> to be able to get transfer output..
[17:06:31] <zeeshan-laptop> blah
[17:13:14] <JT-Shop> I knew the new squirrel guard would require some blood letting
[17:15:07] <zeeshan-laptop> lol
[17:21:37] <Computer_barf> are we still talking about squirrels?
[17:22:54] <JT-Shop> I don't know if we are...
[17:23:04] <Computer_barf> weight sensor + arduino + electric fence
[17:23:43] <JT-Shop> I'm just trying to keep them from pulling corn out of the deer feeder
[17:24:18] <Computer_barf> i also saw another solution where someone attached a weight sensor and an electric motor to the feeder so it would start spinning if they got on it
[17:24:58] <Computer_barf> it was funny to watch them try to hold on as it accellerated
[17:25:54] <JT-Shop> that would be funny
[17:28:18] <Computer_barf> when is high speed , small scale, satellite internet going to become ubiquitous
[17:29:31] <theorbtwo> Computer_barf: There's a pretty sharp limit to how low-latency you can make sat internet.
[17:30:04] <theorbtwo> At some point, things traveling at the speed of light need to get up to the sat and back down to earth, and that takes longer then you might expect.
[17:30:05] <Computer_barf> ok how about quantum entanglement internet
[17:36:01] * JT-Shop wishes they would do something with the thousands of miles of fiber optic buried alongside most of the roads in Missouri
[17:40:13] <Computer_barf> so with all this trans-sexual and trans-race buzz going on lately,
[17:40:34] <Computer_barf> im thinking about becoming trans-mexican, like self identify as mexican
[17:41:15] <Computer_barf> if I ever get arrested for a violent crime or murder or something, being mexican would really help out my odds of getting released
[17:42:04] <alex4nder> I'm not sure the stats would be in your favor.
[17:42:31] <Computer_barf> they would be relatively to otherwise
[17:44:03] <Computer_barf> although i might have to move to LA to statistically benefit
[17:46:01] <Computer_barf> ok new plan
[17:46:26] <Computer_barf> show up to a dhs relocation center along the boarder
[17:46:48] <Computer_barf> self identify as mexican and say you need transport into the interior
[17:47:03] <Computer_barf> if they say .. hey arn't you american?
[17:47:11] <Computer_barf> accuse them of racism
[17:47:51] <Computer_barf> instead of ditching on the followup court dealings, show up, create new identity
[17:48:04] <MrSunshine> damn fusion 360 seem to require quite the machine to do even simple stuff
[17:51:14] <Computer_barf> PM mrshunshine
[18:19:38] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/images/deer-feeder/
[18:22:03] * JT-Shop goes to fill up the feeder...
[18:24:13] <_methods> beware the squirrels
[18:25:06] <_methods> they're watching you
[18:34:16] <JT-Shop> lol
[18:52:46] <_methods> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQhHyHkCeBo
[18:53:47] <PetefromTn_> LOL musclehead
[18:53:57] <_methods> all natural
[21:05:46] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/F5XpBmt.jpg
[21:05:47] <zeeshan|2> :D
[21:05:51] <zeeshan|2> found a big gun
[21:11:21] <[cube]> lol
[21:11:24] <PetefromTn_> rednecks....
[21:11:27] <zeeshan|2> :-)
[21:11:32] <[cube]> dont trepass on that property
[21:11:37] <zeeshan|2> too bad
[21:11:38] <zeeshan|2> i did
[21:11:38] <zeeshan|2> lol
[21:12:33] <[cube]> http://i.imgur.com/FuhClqE.jpg
[21:12:46] <[cube]> before you say anything, it's a PROTOTYPE K :P
[21:12:54] <zeeshan|2> what is this contraption
[21:13:04] <[cube]> haha
[21:13:41] <[cube]> somethign i rigged up in a couple hours to not have backpain
[21:14:07] <zeeshan|2> to surf the web?
[21:14:16] <[cube]> programming
[21:14:28] <[cube]> web dev etc
[21:16:01] <[cube]> works pretty well :P
[21:16:21] <[cube]> i can sit in it comfortably for like 2-3 hrs at a time
[21:17:00] <zeeshan|2> nice
[21:17:02] <zeeshan|2> looks comfy
[21:26:16] <zeeshan|2> http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/261943570506?
[21:26:17] <zeeshan|2> :]
[21:26:20] <zeeshan|2> buy it
[21:27:52] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/kojxDAq.jpg
[21:27:54] <zeeshan|2> what are these?
[21:28:00] <zeeshan|2> dies for a geometric tapping hjead?
[21:28:41] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/sxuIYcj.jpg
[21:28:42] <zeeshan|2> what about these
[21:28:49] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/3AifFUY.jpg and that
[21:28:53] <zeeshan|2> these are the things i cant figure out :P
[21:46:19] <Tom_L> sandvik has an ap for that: http://www.sandvik.coromant.com/en-us/knowledge/calculators_and_software/apps_for_download/pages/default.aspx?utm_source=apsis&utm_medium=email&utm_content=unspecified&utm_campaign=MonthlyNewsletter2015-06-24_US
[21:49:25] <PetefromTn_> Damn my internet has slowed to a freakin' crawl all afternoon... Whose ass do I have to kick to get it fixed LOL
[21:50:04] <Tom_itx> someone is after your router
[21:50:27] <PetefromTn_> hell they can have it just bring back the high speed hehe
[21:51:31] <Tom_itx> well i repaired one board, now able to test the other one, it's shot too
[21:52:48] <Tom_itx> just when i was done with the control too
[21:53:16] <zeeshan|2> Tom_itx: how do you blow these boards up
[21:53:16] <zeeshan|2> !
[21:53:28] <Tom_itx> bad chinese reg this time
[21:53:41] <Tom_itx> 5v went to 23
[21:53:48] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: we have had all sorts of issues with ATT lately. Who is your ISP?
[21:54:05] <PetefromTn_> Charter Cable
[21:55:26] <zeeshan|2> http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/261943624953?
[21:55:30] <zeeshan|2> i almost dont wanna sell this indicator set
[21:55:32] <zeeshan|2> i have too many :/
[21:55:32] <CaptHindsight> DNS redirects, SSL instability, slow speeds, lots of unsynced IRC packets, etc etc
[21:55:44] <Tom_itx> zeeshan|2, replaced all 3 of the TSSOP 56 pin buss switch chips on the 7i90, now it's good
[21:55:52] <zeeshan|2> howd you blow em
[21:56:07] <Tom_itx> ^^
[21:56:18] <zeeshan|2> you didnt answer my q
[21:56:22] <zeeshan|2> 5v went to 23
[21:56:28] <zeeshan|2> a vreg randomly does that? :p
[21:56:29] <Tom_itx> well those chips don't like 23v
[21:56:35] <Tom_itx> it did
[21:56:38] <zeeshan|2> ;/
[21:56:49] <Tom_itx> i was ready to button the control up and make chips
[21:57:13] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/dGzYpvI.jpg
[21:57:15] <zeeshan|2> what the heck is this
[21:57:21] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/Mlsgc9u.jpg
[21:57:28] <zeeshan|2> found it in a toolbox i bought
[21:57:44] <PetefromTn_> CaptHindsight I don't understand any of that but it is slow as molasses running uphill right now LOL
[21:58:07] <Tom_itx> i keep random crap in my toolbox too so when i'm gone they'll look at it and wonder WTF
[21:59:01] <zeeshan|2> lol
[22:00:16] <Tom_itx> i could switch back to the 7i47 but then i'd have to wire in the board you gave me again
[22:00:35] <zeeshan|2> oh noes
[22:00:46] <Tom_itx> it worked ok
[22:01:01] <Tom_itx> i wanted to try the spindle out on the 7i47s though
[22:01:10] <Tom_itx> it was working well really
[22:01:34] <Tom_itx> signed my kid up for Catia classes today
[22:01:39] <Tom_itx> he was pretty stoked
[22:02:09] <zeeshan|2> how old
[22:02:14] <Tom_itx> HS
[22:02:25] <zeeshan|2> nice thqt he's into it
[22:02:44] <Tom_itx> it's about all this town uses for cad nowdays
[22:03:00] <Tom_itx> they teach solidworks and mastercam too
[22:03:28] <Tom_itx> i should sign up myself so i can get the latest solidworks student
[22:04:26] <zeeshan|2> i really like the patterning changes in 2014
[22:04:27] <zeeshan|2> er
[22:04:28] <zeeshan|2> 2015
[22:06:18] <jdh> they have the classes in HS?
[22:06:57] <Tom_itx> Vo tech
[22:07:11] <Tom_itx> he's able to take college courses now
[22:07:46] <jdh> no SW classes here that I could find
[22:08:09] <Tom_itx> they teach it here as part of the machining courses
[22:08:38] <Tom_itx> catia is separate from that
[22:09:05] <jdh> I would never have a place to use catia
[22:09:24] <Tom_itx> i wouldn't either except all the aircraft use it now
[22:09:57] <Tom_itx> 1st sem, part design & sketcher and assembly design
[22:10:13] <Tom_itx> 2nd sem, drafting & prismatic machining
[22:11:51] <Tom_itx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRrf1hvBBI8
[22:11:57] <Tom_itx> it looks alot like all the others
[22:17:41] <PetefromTn_> any of you guys ever replaced a micro usb charging port?
[22:17:45] <tjtr33> ^^^ that video has the most annoying soundtrack :)
[22:17:57] <Tom_itx> good i have sound off then :)
[22:18:23] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn_ why do you ask?
[22:20:28] <PetefromTn_> aah both of my kids got some of those Samsung Galaxy tab3 tablets about a year or so ago and now both of them won't charge because they have not been careful with the charging chords etc etc.
[22:21:22] <Tom_itx> it's gotta be better than the one on the surface pro
[22:21:43] <PetefromTn_> apparently they are not the nice kind that just has a standalone little board and a cable to replace they are actually soldered directly to the main power distribution board and watching a video online some guy used a directed air heat gun to remove it
[22:22:05] <Tom_itx> yeah you'd better get someone to fix that for you
[22:22:22] <Tom_itx> it's pretty cramped on those boards
[22:22:49] <Tom_itx> iirc 5 terminals and the frame lugs
[22:23:03] <Tom_itx> similar to the mini but smaller
[22:23:05] <tjtr33> PetefromTn_, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fcqUXtFVQo beware crap music
[22:24:05] <PetefromTn_> yeah that one I saw but that is not the one they have here. It is actually the Samsung Galaxy tab3 7" model...
[22:24:24] <PetefromTn_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMgRErOBPug
[22:25:03] <zeeshan|2> http://www.ebay.com/sch/xull1x/m.html?item=261943638017&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
[22:25:07] <zeeshan|2> buy my stuff!!
[22:25:39] <PetefromTn_> LOL Zeeshan is whoring out his ebay junk
[22:25:49] <zeeshan|2> lol
[22:27:02] <zeeshan|2> im trying to clean up
[22:27:04] <zeeshan|2> all extra stuff
[22:28:59] <PetefromTn_> so does it have alignment pins or do you have to heat gun solder the damn thing down and try to align it at the same damn time?
[22:29:36] <Tom_itx> depends on the mfg
[22:29:45] <Tom_itx> some have tits for alignment, some don't
[22:29:55] <PetefromTn_> it is apparently the exact same one as in that videp
[22:30:03] <Tom_itx> didn't click
[22:33:21] <Tom_itx> that one doesn't appear to have them
[22:34:05] <Tom_itx> it's pretty easy to bridge the contacts on those
[22:34:26] <Tom_itx> doesn't look very accessable
[22:36:04] <zeeshan> ??
[22:41:12] <PetefromTn_> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2pcs-Micro-USB-Charging-Port-Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-3-7-0-SM-T210R-Tablet-Connector-/221503713681?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3392a67191
[22:41:21] <PetefromTn_> Looks like it does have some sort of alignment pins..
[22:42:38] <PetefromTn_> In the video is appeared the guy used some sort of flux before setting the new port. Any idea what you would use? or is it even flux?
[22:43:49] <PetefromTn_> they also used some sort of heat shield tape on it.
[22:49:03] <tjtr33> PetefromTn_, http://sperepuga.com/video/icXmTO2tnEM the port has 4 ears and pcb has 4 holes for them BUT its a tricky repair even with special tools
[22:50:21] <PetefromTn_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMgRErOBPug This is pretty much what needs to happen
[22:52:39] <PetefromTn_> all the contacts are on the back tho right.
[22:59:53] <Tom_itx> yes
[23:00:40] <Tom_itx> the flux is rosin core flux
[23:00:43] <Tom_itx> probably
[23:00:54] <PetefromTn_> my biggest concern is just overheating the rest of the board
[23:00:55] <Tom_itx> unless you'd rather solder it RoHs
[23:01:41] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/scope/scope2.jpg
[23:01:49] <Tom_itx> like that flux pen lower right by the green pad
[23:02:12] <Tom_itx> felt tip flux pen
[23:02:29] <Tom_itx> you want to use that definitely
[23:03:22] <PetefromTn_> green pad
[23:03:42] <Tom_itx> laying by the cutting board
[23:04:29] <PetefromTn_> ok
[23:05:29] <PetefromTn_> gotta finish probing this part be back in a bit gonna think about wether i want to attempt this...
[23:06:04] <Tom_itx> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/835-P/473-1033-ND/949475
[23:06:09] <Tom_itx> or such
[23:06:46] <Tom_itx> if you haven't done SMT, i wouldn't suggest trying that
[23:07:20] <Tom_itx> you can easily pull the traces off the board