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[02:05:40] <Deejay> moin
[09:22:49] <dirty_d> i tore apart my broken welder
http://i.imgur.com/i66fiUp.jpg http://i.imgur.com/H8J8FJD.jpg
[09:24:11] <_methods> did that one leg blow off?
[09:24:58] <dirty_d> no, there's no visible damage here
[09:25:00] <_methods> just need to replace that resistor or whatever that thing is
[09:25:06] <dirty_d> besides the diode i snapped off
[09:25:14] <dirty_d> this is just hte output stage
[09:25:22] * JT-Shop gets a pistol to walk down to the mail box
[09:25:24] <dirty_d> but still freaking confusing
[09:25:37] <_methods> well on that second pic
[09:25:46] <dirty_d> two transformers looks like each has two center tapped secondaries
[09:25:49] <dirty_d> right?
[09:25:50] <_methods> what's up with the splatter around that pad
[09:26:00] <_methods> lower left corner
[09:26:10] <dirty_d> i dunno, china
[09:26:21] <dirty_d> flux
[09:26:34] <_methods> did you desolder those pads?
[09:26:45] <dirty_d> nope
[09:27:00] <_methods> interesting
[09:27:01] <dirty_d> they were bolted to the output "cables"
[09:27:06] <_methods> k
[09:27:09] <dirty_d> copper sheet metal
[09:27:27] <_methods> china has secret explosive soldering technique lol
[09:27:30] <dirty_d> the transformers say ETD49 20:4
[09:27:39] <dirty_d> whats 20:4 mean if there are two secndaries though?
[09:27:47] <dirty_d> just two separate with 4 turns each
[09:28:33] <dirty_d> its a tig/stick/plasma
[09:28:48] <dirty_d> so i think those relays switch the secondaries from series to parallel etc
[09:29:06] <dirty_d> plasma needs high voltage, stick lower, tig lower still
[09:30:26] <dirty_d> magnets...
[09:31:08] <ssi> morn
[09:42:26] <dirty_d> furrywolf knows about magnets and stuff
[09:46:31] <ssi> how do they work?!
[09:47:55] <dirty_d> you cant explain that
[10:17:53] <_methods> magic
[10:23:17] <norias> magic?
[10:23:22] <norias> i like magic
[10:24:29] <ssi> don't we all
[10:24:58] <JT-Shop> yea my new roll of bubble wrap arrived
[10:25:07] <ssi> magic bubble wrap?!
[10:25:44] <JT-Shop> yes it would keep my wife entertained for hours
[10:27:00] <ssi> :D
[10:27:30] <malcom2073> Is it that evil bubble wrap that doesn't pip?
[10:27:32] <malcom2073> pop*
[10:35:10] <JT-Shop> lol
[10:35:55] <pcw_home> Product safety lawyers got to Bubble wrap?
[10:36:33] <malcom2073> dude... it's evil.
[10:40:07] <dirty_d> yea...
https://sketch.io/render/sketch5571bd9d08a61.png
[11:12:35] <_methods> JT-Shop:
http://imgur.com/a/YylQc
[11:13:01] <_methods> some hilarious welding
[11:16:00] <zeeshan> It has been 2 weeks since my first e-mail. I don't understand why I haven't been given a concrete answer on why my Fund 55 has been delayed by almost a month?
[11:16:05] <zeeshan> ^ do i sound harsh?
[11:16:07] <zeeshan> and mean?
[11:26:18] * zeeshan reworded the email
[11:26:33] <zeeshan> and cc'ed the persons boss too. :p
[11:35:28] <cradek> _methods: ha! I've never seen welds like that. they're breathtaking.
[11:37:16] <Loetmichel> _methods: thats a WELD?
[11:38:40] <cradek> "There seemed to be too much fire"
[11:39:05] <cradek> "I didn't have the #57 drill bit recommended by the author so I used a 1/16th"
[11:41:02] <zeeshan> lol
[11:41:35] <roycroft> perhaps i'm weird
[11:41:38] <roycroft> well, i know i am
[11:41:49] <roycroft> but in my storage drawers for taps and dies
[11:42:04] <roycroft> i keep the proper size tap drill in the compartment where i keep taps of a particular size
[11:42:31] <zeeshan> i used to do that for common taps
[11:42:38] <roycroft> i never have to look up the tap drill size or go somewhere else to get a drill bit
[11:42:39] <zeeshan> but its just easier to have a dedicated drill set next to em :)
[11:43:21] <roycroft> i just pull out the 6-32 drawer and i have drill bit, starter tap, standard tap, bottom tap, and dies all right there
[11:44:04] <roycroft> i use number bits more often for tap holes than anything else, so i buy the tap drills in packs of 5 or 10
[11:44:39] <roycroft> and my dedicated number bit set is usually complete - i'm not wearing out/breaking common tap drill bits that i have to replace in the complete set
[11:45:00] <cradek> yeah I have a cheap all-the-numbers set, plus very good drills of common sizes like #7
[11:45:37] <cradek> I want those weird whatever-sizes only rarely
[11:46:20] <roycroft> not having to go across the shop to look up a drill size is perhaps the biggest benefit to my system
[11:46:39] <roycroft> my cabinet full of taps etc. is in between my mill and my drill press
[11:46:49] <cradek> heh I can see the starrett chart from wherever I'm standing :-)
[11:46:52] <roycroft> but my big wall-mounted drill size chart is on the other side of the shop
[11:47:06] <roycroft> because wall real estate around the machinery is too precious
[12:13:58] <_methods> "i'm really bad at welding"
[12:14:00] <_methods> you don't say
[12:15:28] <_methods> those plastic cases that end mills and drills come in make great containers for drill/tap sets
[12:16:03] <_methods> drill/plug/bottom tap fit in them perfect
[12:16:08] <ssi> lol welding
[12:16:11] <ssi> that's amazingc
[12:17:02] <roycroft> i just have one of those plastic cases with 48 or so little drawers that mounts on the wall
[12:17:19] <roycroft> the drawers are wide enough to hold dies as well as taps/drills
[12:17:31] <_methods> oh yeah that would be nice too
[12:17:39] <roycroft> but if i were just doing taps and drills end mill cases would be perfect
[12:17:43] <roycroft> and free
[12:17:54] <_methods> yeah i need them because i have to carry them around the shop
[12:18:02] <_methods> set up on diff machines and stuff
[12:18:02] <CaptHindsight> it's called "ornamental welding"
[12:18:19] <roycroft> i pull the drawer out and carry it with me :)
[12:18:27] <_methods> that works too hehe
[12:18:53] <roycroft> machining is like brewing beer in a way
[12:19:04] <roycroft> there are usually many correct ways to do the same thing
[12:19:17] <roycroft> but there are also a lot of people who think their way is the only correct way
[12:19:33] <_methods> heh indeed
[12:19:48] <_methods> techniques are like assholes, everyone has one, and they all stink
[12:19:54] <CaptHindsight> http://i.imgur.com/q0xeVku.jpg yikes
[12:20:32] <archivist> this one is good on welding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojFZ__4t7ck
[12:21:19] <roycroft> my techniques smell like beautiful flowers
[12:22:19] <CaptHindsight> http://photo.sf.co.ua/g/177/8.jpg still one of my favorite welding pics
[12:22:36] <_methods> looks like his weld got a case of anal warts
[12:26:15] <Rab> My friends and I used to use metal coat hangers as welding sticks, looked better than that.
[12:26:44] <zeeshan> is 6mA enough to trigger a SSR?
[12:30:25] <ssi> depends on the ssr
[12:30:26] <ssi> but probably
[12:30:34] <ssi> got a part number on the ssr?
[12:31:28] <zeeshan> no
[12:31:36] <zeeshan> i will buy SSR to meet multifunction daq specs
[12:32:44] <ssi> then there's no way to answer your question :P
[12:33:44] <zeeshan> haha
[12:33:52] <zeeshan> fak dude ive been going nuts on this pressure control shit
[12:34:10] <ssi> I know
[12:34:12] <ssi> it's annoying :P
[12:34:22] <zeeshan> well ive narrowed it down .
[12:34:28] <zeeshan> i just need to match a system for it
[12:35:08] <zeeshan> I need 2x 4-20mA analog outs, 1x 4-20mA analog in, 2x 0-5V analog in, ability to control 3 relays
[12:35:17] <zeeshan> ssr or regular good old relays
[12:35:35] <zeeshan> im thinking of using a current shunt for the analog in
[12:35:41] <zeeshan> but for the 4-20mA analog out, a signal conditioner
[12:36:53] <zeeshan> http://www.mccdaq.com/PDFs/specs/USB-1208FS-LS-1408FS-Series-data.pdf
[12:37:20] <zeeshan> im thinking of picking up this: USB-1408FS-Plus
[12:37:30] <zeeshan> http://www.mccdaq.com/signal-conditioning/ISO-5B39-03.aspx
[12:37:31] <zeeshan> along with that
[12:37:34] <zeeshan> should do the job i think.
[12:38:07] <zeeshan> that labjack company is so unorganized with their data
[12:38:12] <zeeshan> i dont trust their equipment
[12:52:31] * zeeshan wishes he knew someone who has used an electronic pressure regulator before
[12:53:31] <ssi> I've used electronic pressure regulators before
[12:53:35] <ssi> but they were boost controllers :D
[12:53:38] <zeeshan> haha
[12:53:45] <zeeshan> hey wtf
[12:53:51] <zeeshan> i should just use a boost controller.
[12:53:53] <ssi> duh
[12:54:32] <zeeshan> i cant decide on which way to attempt this
[12:54:38] <zeeshan> 2 solenoids or just one electronic regulator
[12:55:03] <zeeshan> i'll prolly keep on having to monitor the chamber pressure and update the regulator in a feedback
[12:55:12] <zeeshan> would be more slick than 2 solenoids.
[13:57:45] <_methods> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/05/police-new-mexico-man-baked-potato-raked-leaves-during-break-in-home-startles/
[13:58:00] <_methods> raking leaves and bakin potatoes
[13:58:08] <_methods> he's hired
[14:00:02] <CaptHindsight> he sounds ill
[14:02:20] <CaptHindsight> and rather than get him medical assistance they will put him into the corporate prison system
[14:05:47] <SpeedEvil> Shoot him in the head several times. It's the only way they'll get better.
[14:06:44] <_methods> penal therapy
[14:07:08] <_methods> it's highly effective at creating mentally ill criminals
[14:09:39] <_methods> you get to share a room wiht a counselor 24/7
[14:10:35] <CaptHindsight> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/05/man-arrested-near-school-in-star-wars-stormtrooper-costume/
[14:10:43] <_methods> heh
[14:11:10] <_methods> yesterday it was kickstarter, today it's just random lunatics
[14:11:20] <CaptHindsight> the school principal has not been fired, thats the real crime
[14:12:18] <_methods> i can't believe the gun was a fak
[14:12:20] <_methods> fake
[14:12:25] <furrywolf> eh? what crime did he commit?
[14:12:33] <_methods> he was white
[14:12:35] <_methods> lol
[14:12:59] <_methods> the crime of cosplay near an elementary school
[14:13:09] <CaptHindsight> The man was then arrested and charged with disturbing a school and loitering.
[14:13:13] <_methods> you can never be too careful
[14:13:47] * furrywolf has never heard of a law called "disturbing a school", and loitering is usually a civil matter...
[14:13:54] <CaptHindsight> disturbing a school must mean anything they feel like
[14:14:13] <CaptHindsight> similar to "inappropriate behavior"
[14:14:30] <furrywolf> one of those laws.
[14:16:00] <CaptHindsight> disorderly conduct
[14:16:19] <CaptHindsight> when nothing else fits
[14:16:47] <CaptHindsight> sounds like pushing in the bathroom line
[14:17:02] <_methods> it's amazing how fast they can find some lame charge to nail some poor joe with
[14:17:21] <_methods> but you crash the economy and fleece america and no one can figure out what to charge you with
[14:17:29] <_methods> or find a person to charge
[14:17:29] <furrywolf> hopefully he doesn't accept a plea bargin, forces them to go to a jury, and gets off free.
[14:17:40] <CaptHindsight> yeah, that's far too complicated
[14:18:08] <CaptHindsight> convenient isn't it
[14:18:15] <_methods> for some
[14:18:53] <_methods> apparently not for the empire though
[14:19:40] <_methods> i guess the only jedi mind trick the principal knows is 911
[14:19:51] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcjGRXTpHGI Toasting Knife
[14:20:01] <_methods> yeah saw that yesterday
[14:20:11] <_methods> it's not on kickstarter yet lol
[14:20:26] <furrywolf> or else the principal is a star trek fan.
[14:24:39] <CaptHindsight> I'm working on the t-shirts that tell you when they are dirty and the beer cups that tell you when they are empty
[14:25:19] <furrywolf> ... is that like a device that tells you water is wet or the pope is catholic?
[14:25:43] <_methods> oh wow 2 more great kickstarter ideas
[14:25:59] <CaptHindsight> it's for people that forget to drink and need/like to be told what to do
[14:26:57] <furrywolf> you might have better luck with a beer cup that radioed the barwrench to let he know to refill it
[14:27:12] <furrywolf> s/her/her
[14:27:12] <furrywolf> grr
[14:27:23] * furrywolf is too busy eating to type
[14:28:10] <CaptHindsight> http://www.businessinsider.com/hidrateme-kickstarter-water-bottle-2015-6
[14:30:00] <furrywolf> ... how about drinking when you're thirsty?
[14:30:16] <CaptHindsight> thats for old farts
[14:30:45] * furrywolf must be an old fart
[14:30:54] <CaptHindsight> what do they know? look what they have done to the planet
[14:31:46] <CaptHindsight> do you really want to risk dying because you didn't drink?
[14:31:58] <CaptHindsight> this is for everyones safety
[14:32:23] * furrywolf supports natural selection
[14:33:07] <furrywolf> I also think the "WARNING: CONTAINS FISH" in big bold letters on the package of mahi mahi I got should be removed.
[14:39:00] <zeeshan> whatrs a "flying lead"
[14:39:00] <zeeshan> ?
[14:39:43] <SpeedEvil> A lead that is free to move
[14:39:48] <zeeshan> hm
[14:39:57] <SpeedEvil> Or something you should avoid in battles - depending
[14:42:13] <furrywolf> now, if there was a device that could decide if I was hungry enough for a third bowl of salad or not...
[14:46:51] * furrywolf makes a note to get a fursuit and wander around town in it
[14:57:41] <CaptHindsight> http://appcrawlr.com/android-apps/best-apps-remind-me-to-eat
[14:58:06] <furrywolf> lol
[14:58:27] <CaptHindsight> and 12 apps that
http://appcrawlr.com/app/search?go=go&q=remind+me+to+drink&device=android
[14:58:50] <CaptHindsight> must be a common problem :)
[14:59:43] <furrywolf> except it's not remembering to eat, it's deciding if I'm hungry enough to eat a third bowl. two might leave me a little hungry, three might make me overly full...
[15:00:11] <CaptHindsight> there is no such thing, you just explode
[15:00:46] <_methods> you do have several internal relief valves that will prevent the explosion thing
[15:00:49] <furrywolf> heh. I'm good at eating large quantities of food (despite being relatively thin), but if I eat too much, then I don't feel too well.
[15:00:52] <_methods> to an extent
[15:01:06] <CaptHindsight> built in fail safe
[15:02:00] <CaptHindsight> when your built in failsafe just isn't failsafe enough
[15:02:19] <zeeshan> Yes!! GOT MY BUDGET approved
[15:03:01] <zeeshan> wow that water bottle idea
[15:03:05] <zeeshan> is actually really SWEET.
[15:03:25] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: what are you going to do with all those degrees?
[15:03:38] <zeeshan> toilet paper
[15:03:51] <CaptHindsight> "am I done yet?"
[15:04:32] <zeeshan> CaptHindsight: believe it or not, but my boss at my coop told me
[15:04:42] <zeeshan> w/ masters, they'd pay me 85k
[15:04:52] <zeeshan> without masters id be at 62
[15:04:57] <zeeshan> it's crazy how that works
[15:05:04] <CaptHindsight> will you teach?
[15:05:04] <XXCoder> only 62 a year eh heh
[15:05:19] <zeeshan> yes id like to in the future
[15:05:28] <zeeshan> id like at least 15 years of industry experience before teaching
[15:05:33] <zeeshan> dont wanna be a clueless prof
[15:05:41] <zeeshan> i'd also like to teach at college level
[15:05:46] <zeeshan> where its more hands on
[15:05:48] <CaptHindsight> do they want you to have 2+ years in industry?
[15:05:59] <zeeshan> i dont know
[15:06:11] <zeeshan> i doubt it, a lot of profs get hired right after successful research
[15:06:48] <CaptHindsight> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape-memory_alloy
[15:07:17] <CaptHindsight> memory materials scientist
[15:07:26] <zeeshan> i'd like to get far away from that stuff as possible
[15:07:27] <zeeshan> lol
[15:07:28] <zeeshan> it's not my thing
[15:07:54] <zeeshan> i really like solid mechanics and some fluid
[15:07:57] <CaptHindsight> memory fluids would be interesting
[15:08:01] <zeeshan> (they are pretty related)
[15:08:37] <zeeshan> when i first learned the defnition of a fluid in fluid mechanics
[15:08:41] <CaptHindsight> Course #301: Garage CNC
[15:08:42] <zeeshan> i really didn't "visualize it"
[15:08:53] <zeeshan> "a fluid is something that continuously deforms"
[15:09:05] <zeeshan> under shear stress..
[15:09:14] <zeeshan> took a while to visualize that
[15:10:02] <zeeshan> CaptHindsight: i'd love to design gravity based structures
[15:10:05] <zeeshan> like this:
[15:10:19] <zeeshan> http://www.paroscientific.com/Newsletters/October2001/images/maureen.jpg
[15:10:23] <CaptHindsight> lol that story on the Bombing of the ISIS HQ is all over the news
[15:10:23] <zeeshan> they are so cool
[15:10:59] <XXCoder> base held by 2 dicks
[15:11:06] <zeeshan> hahaa CaptHindsight
[15:11:08] <zeeshan> NICE
[15:11:08] <XXCoder> er 3
[15:11:11] <zeeshan> what an idiot
[15:11:45] <_methods> isis hq?
[15:12:17] <CaptHindsight> http://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/tech/2015/06/04/air-force-isis-social-media-target/28473723/
[15:12:28] <_methods> oh the selfie thing
[15:15:20] <SpeedEvil> http://www.iondesign.net/clients/webnoodle/pics/SummerIsComing_500px.jpg
[15:16:34] <_methods> you know nothing
[15:48:09] <JT-Shop> now you have to peel a sticker off your watch battery that says to not feed them to your children...
[15:51:57] <XXCoder> JT-Shop: mother eas arrested when she let kids play on deadend and she was sitting there
[15:52:15] <XXCoder> some neighbor said they was alone and cpa belived em
[16:36:12] <Deejay> gn8
[16:53:35] <JT-Shop> XXCoder, that sounds about right
[17:32:05] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgt6FPWU2Lc - how to route an exhaust pipe _very_ wrongly
[17:33:58] <CaptHindsight> what else are you to do you when all you have a are 90's to work with?
[17:59:10] <SpeedEvil> That thing has a hell of a lot of axes
[17:59:25] <SpeedEvil> Impressive - though tragically slow
[18:00:02] <furrywolf> $@#%$@@%!!!!!
[18:00:04] <furrywolf> I just broke off a head bolt.
[18:00:20] <furrywolf> tightening it, WITH A TORQUE WRENCH, to the torque specified in the service manual.
[18:00:41] <furrywolf> it's broken off below the top of the block, of course.
[18:00:47] <SpeedEvil> at the right units?
[18:00:54] <furrywolf> yes
[18:01:03] <SpeedEvil> greased?
[18:01:10] <furrywolf> yes, as per the manual.
[18:01:17] <SpeedEvil> Wierd
[18:01:28] <SpeedEvil> new, or reused?
[18:01:31] <furrywolf> used
[18:01:47] <SpeedEvil> Or does the manual say you can reuse
[18:02:05] <furrywolf> manual doesn't say anything.
[18:02:59] <furrywolf> I think the torque wrench is faulty. I was noticing it felt a little tight just as it snapped.
[18:03:11] <SpeedEvil> :/
[18:03:12] <furrywolf> it was past where I would have stopped if I were arm-torquing it, but I was trusting the torque wrench to be more accurate than my arm...
[18:03:49] <SpeedEvil> First thing to do: Swear profusely.
[18:03:56] <furrywolf> <furrywolf> $@#%$@@%!!!!!
[18:04:14] <furrywolf> next thing to do, drill and easy-out...
[18:05:44] <furrywolf> why is harbor freight's 1/2" drive torque wrench on sale for $9.99, but the 3/8" drive one $21.99?
[18:06:34] <furrywolf> I wish I knew where my Mac torque wrench disappeared to. :(
[18:17:06] <robin_sz> so ... did I miss something obvious ... where do I set the jog speeds used in the GUI?
[18:17:18] <robin_sz> 15mm/minute is a bit slow
[18:26:38] <Tom_itx> robinsz, in the ini
[18:26:50] <Tom_itx> [DISPLAY]
[18:27:12] <Tom_itx> MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY
[18:27:14] <Tom_itx> probably
[18:27:33] <Tom_itx> along with any max setting in each [AXIS_X] section
[18:29:06] <Tom_itx> oh and DEFAULT_LINEAR_VELOCITY in [DISPLAY] possibly
[18:30:29] <Tom_itx> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/config/ini_config.html#sub:DISPLAY-section
[18:30:40] <robin_sz> right, OK, I think I just set stuff with pncconf so far
[18:31:15] <robin_sz> I was just pleased to get the servo drives and encoders working and everyting locked up
[18:36:15] <furrywolf> yay! probably due to excessive experience, I'm now back to where I started today, within a few threads at least.
[18:37:23] <furrywolf> used a steel bushing pressed into the top of the hole to center a screw-sized drill to turn the rough, convex top into a nice dimple for centering the smaller drill, drilled it, then extracted. had to use a random chuck and a couple extensions to get down inside the cowling without pulling the motor.
[18:38:46] <furrywolf> bbl, cleaning up then heading off to locate a new torque wrench.
[18:59:44] <Tom_itx> torque != impact wrench??
[19:00:02] <XXCoder> its not same
[19:00:14] <XXCoder> troque wrench clicks at specific troque
[19:00:15] <Tom_itx> yes i know
[19:00:27] <Tom_itx> was a funny
[19:00:30] <XXCoder> oh
[19:00:37] <XXCoder> sorry not in best today
[19:00:50] <Tom_itx> well get it together man!
[19:01:07] <_methods> swoosh
[19:01:28] <Tom_itx> figures all 3 chips got hit
[19:01:53] <XXCoder> furrywolf: extracted broken bolt? nice
[19:01:55] <Tom_itx> of the 13 bad io, 4 on one chip 1 on the next and the rest on the last one
[19:02:22] <Tom_itx> i'll confirm that once i get the schematic
[19:03:36] <Tom_itx> the one io one kinda bites
[19:10:17] <_methods> what'd you smoke?
[19:11:48] <Tom_itx> 7i90
[19:12:23] <Tom_itx> a chinese psu gave up putting 20v where it shouldn't be
[19:12:50] <_methods> oh damn
[19:13:03] <Tom_itx> all it got i think is the buss switch chips
[19:13:04] <_methods> the hidden costs of ownership lol
[19:13:30] <Tom_itx> i'll fix it probably
[19:13:35] <_methods> ancient chinese proverb
[19:13:36] <Tom_itx> but i'm gettin another anyway
[19:14:00] <_methods> always good to have the backup once you get it fixed
[19:14:19] <Tom_itx> this was all after user error ate the 7i43
[19:14:40] <_methods> man double whammy
[19:14:56] <_methods> some days you're the dog, some days you're the hydrant
[19:15:04] <Tom_itx> that's my luck
[19:15:41] <_methods> yeah if i didn't have bad luck i wouldn't have any luck at all
[19:16:27] <Tom_itx> it's just takin a little longer to get the mill back up
[19:16:38] <Tom_itx> i was hoping to have rigid tapping goin by now
[19:17:01] <Tom_itx> got the spindle fwd/rev working as well as PID on it
[19:17:15] <Tom_itx> now just waiting
[19:17:24] <_methods> are you tryin to rigid tap on that sherline?
[19:17:30] <Tom_itx> yep
[19:17:31] <_methods> wow
[19:17:34] <Tom_itx> nothing big
[19:17:43] <_methods> i don't think mine could do it without modifying the z colum
[19:17:49] <_methods> it's just too flimsy
[19:17:57] <Tom_itx> it's more an exercise than anything
[19:18:09] <Tom_itx> naw it would work i bet
[19:18:16] <_methods> well people have done it for sure
[19:18:23] <_methods> but i think they've all modified the z colum
[19:18:33] <Tom_itx> in what way?
[19:18:45] <_methods> they've added braces to the back
[19:18:53] <Tom_itx> i haven't checked the slop in it
[19:19:00] <_methods> or bolted c channel to the back
[19:19:02] <Tom_itx> i did once when i set up backlash comp
[19:19:07] <Tom_itx> i considered that on mine
[19:19:07] <_methods> i think your z is designed diff isn't it
[19:19:21] <Tom_itx> running a triangle brace to the back support
[19:19:25] <Tom_itx> yes
[19:19:36] <Tom_itx> it's more flimsy than the regular one
[19:19:41] <_methods> cutting steel on the x2 is not fun
[19:19:52] <_methods> you can do it but i can tell it's not helping the machine any
[19:20:38] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/boards/USBTiny_Mkii/Boxes/milling1.jpg
[19:21:06] <Tom_itx> it looks alot different now
[19:21:24] <_methods> yah you're z looks like it could use some assistance also lol
[19:21:49] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/new_pulleys/timing_pulley_index.php
[19:21:53] <Tom_itx> added better pulleys
[19:22:00] <Tom_itx> and spindle encoder
[19:22:10] <_methods> yeah i need to do that to mine
[19:22:17] <_methods> i just did the vbelt for now
[19:22:27] <Tom_itx> i haven't really had a chance to test any of that yet
[19:22:29] <_methods> shouold be an easy transition from v to timing
[19:22:35] <Tom_itx> the timing belts are nice
[19:22:45] <_methods> yeah
[19:22:55] <Tom_itx> i can get a little more than 5k rpm with what i have
[19:22:58] <_methods> i need to get 4th axis on mine then i can just make my own pulleys
[19:23:17] <Tom_itx> i made one of the v pulleys
[19:23:18] <_methods> i supposed i could just get a rotab and do it manually
[19:23:42] <Tom_itx> they want too much for theirs
[19:24:01] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/new_pulleys/old_pulley1.jpg
[19:24:08] <Tom_itx> that one was mine
[19:24:12] <Tom_itx> i'm not using it now
[19:24:30] <Tom_itx> but i calculated the ratio from those for the timing pulleys
[19:25:48] <Tom_itx> then i modded the original speed control for rev and cnc control of the 'pot'
[19:29:48] <_methods> i can't figure out how to post pics to imgur anymore from my phone
[19:29:49] <_methods> wtf
[19:30:03] <_methods> used to be real easy
[19:30:30] <_methods> i guess i'll try the new google photos that isn't linked to google+
[19:31:42] <_methods> ahh finally figured it out
[19:32:43] <_methods> guess i'll check out the new google photos still though
[19:38:24] <_methods> http://i.imgur.com/tesb3Pe.jpg
[19:39:26] <Tom_itx> i wish i had ballscrews
[19:39:32] <Tom_itx> well if we're wishing...
[19:40:33] <_methods> hehe
[19:42:21] <_methods> i think once i frame out the the back it will be pretty decent for the money
[19:43:05] <_methods> it honestly has me just wanting to get an old cnc bridgeport
[19:43:16] <_methods> really sux having to be a baby around steel
[19:44:07] <_methods> http://i.imgur.com/W6mLnXX.jpg
[19:44:18] <_methods> i need to make my keyboard tray this wknd
[19:45:14] <Tom_itx> what mill is that?
[19:45:21] <_methods> x2
[19:45:30] <Tom_itx> not sherline for sure
[19:45:47] <_methods> it's the little harbor freight mill
[19:46:24] <XXCoder> is that kurt jaw?
[19:46:29] <XXCoder> looks bit different
[19:46:30] <Tom_itx> i looked at one at a local tool shop a while back but it had a round column
[19:46:35] <_methods> no it's a shars turd vise
[19:46:49] <_methods> oh that's the rongfu with the round column
[19:46:49] <XXCoder> yea guessed not
[19:46:53] <_methods> much bigger than mine
[19:47:50] <_methods> they're pretty big but that damn round column kinda screws you
[19:47:59] <_methods> i think pete did a conversion on one of those
[19:52:11] <Tom_itx> i didn't know he had a mill
[19:52:38] <_methods> pete?
[19:52:45] <_methods> he has that arrow now
[19:53:01] <Tom_itx> oh tennessee pete
[19:53:05] <_methods> yeah
[19:53:09] <Tom_itx> i thought you meant pcw
[19:53:24] <_methods> yeah he's not in here so autocomplete didn't work
[19:53:31] <_methods> and i was too lazy to type petefromtn
[19:53:33] <_methods> lol
[19:54:48] <_methods> i'm gonna have to replenish my random washer box on monday
[19:54:52] <_methods> i'm gettin low
[20:15:19] <furrywolf> http://images.craigslist.org/00H0H_f1sM9fU6BZZ_600x450.jpg been sitting for a few years? lol
[20:15:41] <XXCoder> yeah
[20:15:48] <XXCoder> to an immortal 100 years is just few years
[20:17:16] <malcom2073> Craigslist be like: Protected from the elements underground
[20:17:34] <XXCoder> malcom2073: that would be true if oxygen free very low acid
[20:17:53] <XXCoder> they recently found tolet seat thats thousand+ years old
[20:17:55] <XXCoder> its wood.
[20:17:57] <XXCoder> in mud
[20:34:42] <furrywolf> how is it that when you sit down with a carton of ice cream planning to have just a little bit, the carton always ends up empty?
[20:35:03] <XXCoder> no limitor thats why
[20:35:12] <XXCoder> if you scopped to bowl it acts as limitor
[20:35:18] <alex4nder> furrywolf: you need to stop when you hit the diabetes
[20:41:35] <furrywolf> only 21g of sugar per serving... and there's only 4 servings per carton... and it's organic dried cane syrup... :P
[20:42:00] <furrywolf> I also just got 64% of my daily fiber!
[20:53:05] <XXCoder> thats not bad
[21:00:54] <furrywolf> used my new digital torque gauge to check the torque wrench I used on the head bolts. With the torque wrench set for 17ftlbs, it clicks at 28.5ftlbs.
[21:00:56] <furrywolf> I hate china.
[21:01:07] <XXCoder> holy crap
[21:01:16] <XXCoder> thats 11 ft/lb over
[21:01:47] <furrywolf> not as bad as I expected, actually... but I think the first click was worse, and I just didn't capture it on the gauge.
[21:02:07] <furrywolf> also, that means honda torques their head bolts surprisingly close to their breaking strength.
[21:03:48] <furrywolf> http://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-drive-digital-torque-adapter-68283.html I bought that, based on excellent reviews online. it came with a test certification sheet, showing only .7% to .11% error at various points.
[21:04:10] <furrywolf> unlike my clicky torque wrench, which is apparantly off by 70%...
[21:07:57] <XXCoder> yeah
[21:08:10] <XXCoder> I would expect shit ones to be 10% off or so
[21:08:13] <XXCoder> not 70%
[21:13:20] <furrywolf> I think the problem is actually pretty stupid... it doesn't line up with the scale well. it's off by exactly one rotation of the handle. it looks like 17, but it's actually set to 27.
[21:13:40] <alex4nder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mixkLB--_Q4 <- pretty good for a stepper-based taig
[21:13:50] <furrywolf> it's within 2ftlbs at different settings, if you remember to look at the line one above it, not the line you already got to.
[21:13:52] <alex4nder> 120 IPM
[21:13:56] <malcom2073> Lol
[21:14:04] <malcom2073> furrywolf: That's awesomely annoying
[21:14:14] <furrywolf> china. :P
[21:14:58] <malcom2073> I have a torque wrench like that, but that's because I dropped it, broke the handle, and jbweld fixed it
[21:15:10] <malcom2073> alex4nder: That's a hell of a whine that stepper is making haha, spinning like mad
[21:15:23] <alex4nder> yah, 20:1 reduction
[21:15:27] <furrywolf> oh well, found four more head bolts... one of them is even new! I'll put the new one in the hole I extracted the broken one from, as it lost the top thread with the bolt.
[21:16:08] <alex4nder> my old setup was 60 IPM max, with like 10x worse accel
[21:17:13] <furrywolf> I can do about 1.5in/sec (90ipm) on mine, with 1.8 in/sec if I set the acceleration down more. I need to up the voltage a bit. running 54V now, might try to get it to 70V.
[21:17:34] <furrywolf> but that involves another transformer...
[21:17:44] <alex4nder> what stepper drivers are you using?
[21:18:03] <furrywolf> centent cn0165, 80V max. I used 75V caps, so 70V would be a smart limit.
[21:18:07] <alex4nder> cool
[21:18:26] <alex4nder> I'm running this at like 45 volts, 3.5 amps/phase.
[21:18:29] <furrywolf> I could also get rid of the 2:1 belt drive... I think I have more than enough torque.
[21:18:32] <furrywolf> 9A/phase here
[21:18:37] <alex4nder> what size machine?
[21:18:56] <furrywolf> a shoptask... chinese mill/lathe combo.
[21:19:08] <alex4nder> oh yah, werd
[21:19:15] <alex4nder> what are your screws like?
[21:19:36] <furrywolf> I have it set to 1.3in/sec max, as around 1.5 it starts walking itself around the room. I'll need to take the handwheels off if I want to go there. heh.
[21:19:50] <furrywolf> stock 10tpi acme with brass nuts
[21:21:19] <XXCoder> furrywolf: wonder if you can realign marks
[21:21:25] <XXCoder> so 17 is 17 not 27
[21:21:51] <XXCoder> check if it is constant - like 27 is 37, 10 is 20, so on
[21:23:26] <malcom2073> Hmm that's a good point, when I broke mine, the handlewould spin freely, so when I fixed itI misaligned it and that made mine off, bet you could realign yours
[21:23:26] <furrywolf> yes, it is. I already checked.
[21:23:51] <furrywolf> this would have been averted if I could find my good Mac one. :(
[21:24:32] <furrywolf> I have a Mac 3/8" drive torque wrench just for little, precise things like this. for even more precise, I have a snap-on inlb dial one. can't find either.
[21:24:44] <XXCoder> well could just tape "add 10 to displayed number"
[21:25:32] <XXCoder> oh realign nice
[21:25:42] <XXCoder> weird theres bit lag on network
[21:25:54] <furrywolf> the snap-on one is likely WAY out of calibration, though. I got it cheap because someone had hugely over-torqued it, bending the torsion spring about 45 degrees and mangling part of the indicator mechanism. I bent it all back to shape, but a torsion spring that was deformed twice like that is more than a little suspect.
[21:26:57] <furrywolf> bbl, attempting to install the head again
[21:31:21] <SpeedEvil> furrywolf: you managed to remove the bolt?
[21:34:18] <andypugh> Yay! Got the new lathe spinning. It’s a 440V 3-phase lathe and I have 240V 1-phase. So, I needed a transformer to get that up to 400V, then I connected only 2 inputs of a VFD to the 400V and it was happy enough (they don’t care how you charge the internal caps) and then that was enough to spin the spindle motor. The 1kVA transformer got a bit warm, as it’s a 3-phase motor. I then fed 240V straight to the motor armat
[21:34:18] <andypugh> control circuit inputs and 400V to the field circuit, and got the feed motor working too.
[21:34:48] <andypugh> (sorry, warm as it’s a 3hp motor)
[21:35:45] <SpeedEvil> :)
[21:36:32] <SpeedEvil> For testing, or final?
[21:36:52] <andypugh> Just to see what works still
[21:37:31] <andypugh> Lovely old control box, 1960s tech with huge selenium rectifiers:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/yu5GFkcA8Qd5Bd0j0eNRyX69jlxvlrTD6CexboMrrBE?feat=directlink
[21:38:09] <alex4nder> nice
[21:38:45] <andypugh> I can replace those rectifiers with 1N4004 and make room for a PC!
[21:38:53] <SpeedEvil> Looks nice
[21:39:41] <andypugh> it’s a properly nice lathe.
[21:40:34] <furrywolf> no broken bolts this time. yay.
[21:40:35] <andypugh> Look at the width and depth of the bed, it’s crazy-stiff:
http://www.lathes.co.uk/holbrook-minor/
[21:41:03] <XXCoder> fur nice
[21:41:19] <_methods> beautiful lathe
[21:41:23] <_methods> you just got one of those?
[21:41:28] <andypugh> Yes
[21:41:31] <_methods> nice
[21:41:39] <furrywolf> SpeedEvil: I used a steel bushing tapped into the top of the hole to center a drill bit the size of the bolt, to take off the jagged, convex top of the bolt, and leave a nice, centered dimple. I then drilled with a smaller bit and used an easy-out.
[21:41:44] <_methods> looks alot like a hardinge or the monarch 10ee
[21:41:54] <andypugh> I got sick of my rubber chinese lathe.
[21:42:13] <SpeedEvil> :_
[21:42:15] <SpeedEvil> :)
[21:42:25] <_methods> yeah crappy machines get frustrating
[21:42:33] <XXCoder> rubber lol
[21:42:41] <andypugh> The Holbrook is twice the width and more than twice the depth of bed, and fractionally shorter.
[21:42:47] <_methods> that tailstock is nuts
[21:43:04] <andypugh> The tailstock has an oil-sump and dipstick!
[21:43:15] <furrywolf> andypugh: some manufacturers say you have to derate to 2/3rds power when feeding single-phase into a 3-phase device, to prevent melting the input rectifiers. you might want to check if yours is one of these, or do a quick temperature check after running at full power.
[21:43:17] <_methods> power feed on the tailstock?
[21:44:04] <_methods> oh nm just for coolant/cutting oil
[21:44:12] <andypugh> furrywolf: It was a test, 1kVA transformer, 2.2kVA inverter. The inverter dropped out 3 time spinning up the motor as the transformer sagged.
[21:44:25] <furrywolf> lol
[21:45:11] <furrywolf> I actually asked Lambda about this once, and one of their engineers stated all their power supplies will run perfectly off 1ph as long as you derate to 2/3rds. there's also an increase in output ripple by about 1/3rd.
[21:45:16] <andypugh> But I now know what works (not the high-speed gearbox clutch, for one thing). It has an electrically-operated 2-speed box and an infinitely variable drive
[21:46:38] <furrywolf> I have a battery charger with selenium stacks (stack is relative, as it's only one plate!), that only puts out half its rating... despite the lack of blown-selenium-rectifier smell, I suspect it needs a couple new silicon diodes.
[21:46:47] <andypugh> I have a 2.2kVA 240V inverter, but I need to make a thing to get the lathe out from the wall to get to the motor.
[21:46:57] <furrywolf> usually you can smell them from about a block away when they go
[21:47:58] <andypugh> I checked the motor could be re-wired for 240 before I moved it into the garage. Why I didn’t actually do it right then I have no idea.
[21:48:15] <_methods> new machine insanity
[21:48:19] <_methods> happens all the time
[21:48:28] <_methods> you get so excited and want to put it where it goes
[21:48:34] <furrywolf> I don't think I own anything else with selenium stacks anymore... they've all failed or been scrapped/sold.
[21:48:45] <_methods> then you realize you're an idiot and should have done a bunch of stuff before you shoved it in the whole
[21:48:48] <_methods> hole
[21:48:56] <andypugh> Getting it out of the van was over-exciting.
[21:49:27] <_methods> moving machines is always nutz
[21:49:27] <XXCoder> seleum stacks
[21:49:42] <_methods> i'm doing a big 290" lathe on tuesday
[21:49:50] <furrywolf> I wish I had a hole to put my stuff in. it's all in storage or under tarps...
[21:49:54] <_methods> that one is gonna be fun
[21:50:16] <andypugh> This crfane says “2 tons” on the side. I was in the 1-ton position. As I pulled the (hired) van forwards the crane gave up with the lathe half-in and half-out the van.
[21:50:31] <andypugh> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/XL4OqxaxNMEKRxir614Jfn69jlxvlrTD6CexboMrrBE?feat=directlink
[21:50:32] <_methods> ouch
[21:50:56] <_methods> yeah i've seen some nice videos of those things folding over
[21:51:15] <XXCoder> furrywolf: invent time lord "inside is bigger" tech then ;)
[21:51:19] <XXCoder> man I would love to have that.
[21:51:31] <andypugh> Luckily a neigbour could grab a trolley-jack fast enough to stabilise the situation to give me time to think.
[21:51:42] <_methods> heheh
[21:52:20] <furrywolf> those chinese hoists suck.
[21:53:15] <andypugh> I turned the legs over, went to the 2 ton position from the side, and got the lathe safely to the floor. Without trashing the (hired) van.
[21:53:22] <_methods> it's a 3 phase lathe you should have derated the hoist by 2/3 lol
[21:54:05] <furrywolf> I need to get my pickup crane working... it's a lot sturdier than one of those chinese hoists.
[21:54:50] <furrywolf> it's rated for 3200lbs, which is less than the 4000lbs the chinese hoists are rated for... except it's rated with a 4x safety factor, rather than an 0.8x one.
[21:55:04] <andypugh> I was disappointed. The lathe is 750kg. I bought the 2-ton crane to have a bit more allowance, and it stilll wasn’t enough.
[21:55:33] <andypugh> The wheels are no-way rated to even 100kg, compared to real ones.
[21:55:36] <_methods> you roll it in on bars or do you have machine skates?
[21:56:05] <andypugh> Once it was on the ground I rolled it in bars. Much less frigtening.
[21:56:11] <furrywolf> china rates equipment with breaking strength, while real brands rate after a substantial safety factor... and the chinese stuff usually breaks well before its rating anyway...
[21:56:29] <_methods> egyptian style hehe
[21:56:34] <furrywolf> 3:1 and 4:1 are standard for name-brand equipment. 1:1 to 0.5:1 is typical for china...
[21:57:24] <furrywolf> heh, I was at harbor freight today, and they had 20,000lb snatch blocks on sale... that were substantially crappier than my 6000lb non-harbor-freight ones.
[21:57:35] <andypugh> furrywolf: Well, in this case it failed at 75% rated load at the position selected, and 35% of the max load.
[21:58:17] <XXCoder> yuk, glad this was dealt with
https://www.eater.com/2015/5/29/8686323/restaurant-sonic-hamburger-hot-dog-bun-bathroom-storage
[21:58:18] <andypugh> I _thought_ I had made allowance for the fact that the crane was very cheap. Like £124
[21:58:53] <andypugh> Anyway, so now I have two nasty 2-ton cranes, one a bit bemt.
[21:59:20] <andypugh> (can’t fault KMS customer service, I had the offer of a replacement or a refund)
[21:59:33] <furrywolf> so get the replacement or refund?
[21:59:52] <andypugh> I am trying to work out what the extra material and hydraulic ram is good for.
[22:00:10] <furrywolf> for building other things you want to break and/or leak, obviously. :P
[22:00:58] <furrywolf> XXCoder: heh, the local cafe here just got a health inspection... with absolutely nothing wrong. the owner tacked it to the wall with PERFECT written across it in highlighter. :P
[22:01:31] <XXCoder> thats kinda odd lol
[22:01:36] <andypugh> Because the lathe has things at the back that need attention I am going to make a frame with wheels that can be assembled round it when I need to pull it out every year or so.
[22:01:47] <Valen> andypugh: got a pic of the lathe?
[22:02:36] <andypugh> Valen: Can you see :
https://picasaweb.google.com/108164504656404380542/Holbrook?authkey=Gv1sRgCMvRgKyouM3f3wE
[22:02:51] <Valen> yes yes i can
[22:02:57] <furrywolf> I need to build a new cart for my shoptask... the one it's on blocks access to the belt cover, and will block access to the electronics enclosure when I finish it.
[22:03:13] <Valen> seems pretty compact for 750kg
[22:03:35] <andypugh> Yes. I think the motor weight more than the CCL (Cheap Chinese Lathe)
[22:03:52] <Valen> hah that is one huge ass motor on it
[22:04:10] <Valen> does it have a gearbox or something on the front of it?
[22:04:16] <Tom_itx> andypugh what's the big resistor for?
[22:04:32] <andypugh> D1-4 is pretty oversize for a 10x20 lathe too.
[22:04:32] <Tom_itx> brake?
[22:04:50] <furrywolf> https://gokartmods.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/img_1732.jpg?w=614&h=822 lol surface finish
[22:04:53] <andypugh> Tom_itx: Something to do with the variable-speed motor that handles feeds
[22:05:23] <Valen> furrywolf: very hard to see surface finish in photos
[22:05:24] <andypugh> furrywolf: Good gasket grip isn’t a bad thing
[22:07:05] <furrywolf> that just looks rough to me... definitely not the nice clean finish it'd have back from an engine shop.
[22:07:40] <Valen> I presume they would grind and or lap it if they wanted it smooth?
[22:08:31] <furrywolf> dunno, it's some guy in his garage making is gokart rev to 8k instead of the 4k honda says never to exceed...
[22:09:07] <furrywolf> should I port and polish my generator? :P
[22:09:17] <furrywolf> bbl, actually putting generator together instead of sitting at computer...
[22:09:54] <_methods> that lathe is in good shape from what it looks like
[22:10:11] <_methods> no chuck?
[22:11:02] <andypugh> Tom_itx: There is a fixed 300V supply from the main transformer through a rectifier for the feed-motor field, then the armature is fed by a phase-neutral feed via a variable resistor, (or possilbly a variac, I can’t tell from the part or the drawing). The resistor seems to be permanently across the armature, so probably braking before switches were cheap.
[22:11:17] <andypugh> _methods: 3-jaw, 4-jaw and faceplate.
[22:11:24] <_methods> oh wow score
[22:12:00] <andypugh> furrywolf: 8k isn’t all that high. 4k is _very_ low
[22:12:31] <andypugh> My bike is 4 250cc engines in a row and they rev to 14k
[22:13:03] <_methods> andypugh: google+ is broke off from google photos now
[22:13:22] <_methods> so you can send links right from the new google photos with no google+ bs
[22:14:13] <andypugh> _methods: How?
[22:14:39] <andypugh> (or, did I do it right, or not?)
[22:15:22] <_methods> https://goo.gl/photos/dC84WSaTXSC4pH7o6
[22:15:30] <_methods> i went to google photos
[22:15:37] <_methods> that is an album test
[22:15:49] <_methods> people seemed to have problems with imgur albums
[22:16:30] <_methods> then in google photos i just click that share symbol
[22:16:43] <_methods> the 3 points with lines connecting them
[22:17:03] <_methods> and then the direct link button
[22:19:16] <andypugh> When I used to do that then folk with G+ got redirected in an annoying way, so I got into the habit of going to the photo, editing the URL to add ?noredirect=1 then checkiong that worked and posting that link. But then that seemed to work even less well the last week or so.
[22:19:48] <_methods> yeah
[22:20:05] <_methods> probably cause google was googlin up the photo section
[22:20:34] <_methods> but at least now you can send people pics from google photos without g+ being involved
[22:20:38] <archivist> _methods, that link gives a white screen for me
[22:20:42] <_methods> people seemed to genuinely hate google+
[22:20:49] <_methods> really?
[22:20:52] <archivist> yes
[22:20:53] <_methods> the album one?
[22:20:56] <archivist> yes
[22:21:07] <_methods> https://goo.gl/photos/XVYhakfUw6wNsQ9K8
[22:21:10] <_methods> that one?
[22:21:15] <_methods> that's individual pic
[22:21:44] <_methods> damn albums
[22:21:58] <andypugh> You didn’t want that to run away did you?
[22:22:05] <_methods> heheh no
[22:22:40] <_methods> after you get hit in the head by a flying part you develop a clamp style OCD
[22:22:42] <archivist> you can see I get redirected too
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/grabs/Screenshot-26.png
[22:22:55] <andypugh> I actually like G+ more than Facebook. I can’t actually work FB, nor do I want to.
[22:23:14] <_methods> yeah i like g+ myself
[22:23:29] <archivist> I self host, I get no problems, only the users download speed
[22:23:30] <_methods> well damn apparently they have some kinks to work out on photos
[22:23:54] <_methods> i have no facebook
[22:24:08] <archivist> pure html and directlinks to images with no funny business
[22:24:34] <_methods> well i've had people get all mad because i post links to self hosted files and images
[22:24:48] <_methods> one day i'll find something that works for everyone
[22:25:02] <_methods> imgur does pretty well so i'll probably stick to that
[22:25:32] <archivist> I can see direct links to imgure but not albums
[22:25:48] <archivist> that too has screwed js
[22:27:08] <_methods> yeah i just stick to single images anymore
[22:27:23] <andypugh> It appears to be dawn here, time to sleep.
[22:27:37] <andypugh> Night all…. Err morning folks.
[22:27:37] <_methods> lathe dreams
[22:28:17] <archivist> it is 4 am here :)
[22:31:10] <furrywolf> andy: 4k is high for a lawnmower engine that's normally governed at 3600...
[22:32:51] <furrywolf> I just took a little bit of the fur off one of my paws... did you know you can use a cordless drill as a flamethrower? stupid california low-VOC brake cleaner. I cleaned the brushes earlier. apparantly it pooled somewhere and didn't evaporate, because it's california low-voc brake cleaner. guess what happens when you go to use it? heh
[22:43:48] <MattyMatt> I made a rocket gun out of a soldering gun once. I had to ask the victim to hold still while it ignited properly
[22:48:00] <MattyMatt> I go for the caustic when I've got carbon deposits to remove, but that probably needs even more care to clean up
[22:48:10] <MattyMatt> or more water at least
[22:48:32] <MattyMatt> and then a full regrease
[23:49:35] <furrywolf> enough generator assembley for tonight... finished putting the head on, installed rockers, set valve lash, installed heat shields, installed valve cover, found all the parts to put together an exhaust system (except for a spark arrestor - will need to buy one), installed exhaust studs, installed exhaust.
[23:50:05] <furrywolf> I found a muffler that looked like it still had a spark arrestor... pulled it out to find someone had carefully cut off the screen from the back of it.
[23:57:41] <furrywolf> tomorrow, if I have time, need to clean a carb (I have a half dozen in various states of uselessness), and figure out the right sequence of gaskets and spacers to get it on. I don't have the right airbox, so I'll need to just screw the carb down with some spacers for testing.
