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[00:46:26] <Cromaglious> I'm about ready to format this ubuntu 10.04 and get the new debian linuxcnc distro
[00:47:02] <Cromaglious> tomany things not working anymore
[00:48:02] <Cromaglious> apt-get blah -o Apt::Cache-Limit=80000000 is the only way I can get things now
[00:48:29] <Cromaglious> haven't figured out where to up cache-limit in which config file
[00:56:17] <Cromaglious> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01ubuntu added line Cache-Limit 80000000; between the {}s
[00:56:40] <Cromaglious> since I had to update libc6 nothing works
[00:56:58] <Cromaglious> bbl installing debian
[01:25:03] <bobo_> Hope to bbl
[01:30:42] <Deejay> moin
[01:34:32] <Cromaglious> morning
[01:35:10] <Cromaglious> put the 400w dc spindle on the mach3 machine.. pwm speed control is basically spindle on full speed, or off
[02:31:43] <Cromaglious> anyone see my blank DVD's or a flash drive?
[02:32:57] <archivist_herron> under the stack over there-------------------------->
[02:46:20] <Cromaglious> close, little more to the left, on top of the sewing machine
[02:46:38] <Cromaglious> --------/\
[02:53:12] <Cromaglious> rebooting to wheezy laterz
[03:18:19] <Tecan> http://i.imgur.com/2IP1faw.jpg << lol found this in my stash of stuff
[03:21:05] <archivist_herron> that needs a viking burial
[03:25:05] <Tecan> it actually moves fairly fast
[03:25:11] <Tecan> good for pick and place
[03:27:29] <Tecan> http://www.instructables.com/id/Low-Cost-Hobby-Servo-XY-Table/
[03:27:46] <Tecan> not sure if that has ramping or not
[04:47:46] <XXCoder1> boo
[11:01:56] <CaptHindsight> Happy March 32nd!
[11:02:49] <renesis> i think you can do better than that
[11:02:54] <renesis> most of us are not fooled
[11:05:38] <CaptHindsight> I had a calendar that did that
[11:11:20] <renesis> capthindsight: heh cool
[11:22:06] * JT-Shop notes that the only thing worse than cleaning out a coolant tank is tanning hides
[11:26:52] <cradek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCy0NEbJf4s
[11:38:26] <jthornton> heh it made konqueror crash
[11:39:45] <jthornton> he should hold the nozzle still and tilt the can
[11:40:52] <jthornton> all that cheese sacrificed for science lol
[11:43:32] <jthornton> wow adding a file picker to mark convert sure made that easier
[11:45:27] <renesis> cradek: i was so excited when i saw that before
[11:45:40] <renesis> by the end i was kind of depressed
[11:45:57] <renesis> i was expecting like, a new era of snacking
[11:46:29] <malcom2073> Pretty soon, you'll be able to hit a button, and get a ritz cracker with a "printed" shape or pattern (or smiley) on it
[11:46:45] <renesis> yeah that shouldnt be too hard
[11:47:01] <malcom2073> Nah, though I feel the machines pain. I hate the nozzles in those things
[11:47:09] <renesis> inject ritz dough, bake layer with hot air
[11:47:56] <renesis> i guess to do the cheese machine right, you have to bend the can, not the nozzle
[11:48:17] <renesis> and eventually, a variable bend actuator would be nice to regulate the flow
[11:48:29] <malcom2073> with a wiping mechanism to make for clean cutoffs
[11:48:48] <renesis> yeah like a hot razor blade
[11:49:15] <malcom2073> Two hot razer blades, slicing like scissors
[11:49:32] <renesis> that would be cleaner
[12:23:01] <CaptHindsight> would you print or machine the holes for swiss?
[12:24:14] <archivist> swiss cheese?
[12:26:42] <_methods> suisse
[12:29:07] <renesis> capthindsight: i dont see why that would need a second operation, the overhang per layer is so minimal for the bubbles i dont think you would need support cheese
[12:37:37] <CaptHindsight> http://www.renardscheese.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/P/e/PepperJack_16.png
[14:01:14] <archivist> an online book on gears http://issuu.com/deoc4114/docs/modern_methods_of_gear_manufacture_4th_edition
[14:48:04] <dirty_d> any of you made an EDM machine?
[14:58:44] <Jymmm> dirty_d: I did once, super easy.
[14:59:02] <dirty_d> wire EDM?
[14:59:14] <dirty_d> is my math right on this http://www.ebay.com/itm/EDM-WIRE-11-POUND-SPOOL-01-DIA-ZCUT-A-COATED-800NT-/381192225832?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c0d3c428
[14:59:25] <dirty_d> its a 11lb spool of 0.01" wire
[14:59:29] <Jymmm> dirty_d: Take any extension, plug into 120vac outlet, cut with dykes, perfect edm hole =)
[14:59:33] <dirty_d> i got 11km for the length of the wire
[14:59:52] <dirty_d> based on 8.73g/cm density of brass
[15:00:38] <_methods> yeah wait till you get all 11km all tangled up in a ball
[15:00:48] <_methods> the joys of edm lol
[15:00:54] <dirty_d> you just throw away whats used
[15:01:07] <dirty_d> sounds like 11km would last a pretty damn long time
[15:24:58] <Loetmichel> waht are dykes?
[15:25:10] <Loetmichel> @ Jymmm
[15:26:32] <Rab> Loetmichel, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagonal_pliers
[15:26:44] <Loetmichel> ah
[15:26:52] <Jymmm> or linemans pliers
[15:26:55] <XXCoder1> cut with lesbians
[15:27:00] <Loetmichel> "saitenschneider" in german
[15:27:15] <Loetmichel> "(guitar)wire cutter"
[15:27:18] <Rab> http://diy3dprinting.blogspot.com/2015/02/smartcore-low-cost-wooden-box-3d-printer.html
[15:27:32] <Rab> You can see the particle board splitting in their product photo. :(
[15:28:25] <Loetmichel> Rab: normal if you dont predrill and use spax screws in particle board
[15:28:32] <Loetmichel> soeone got lazy
[15:28:41] <XXCoder1> ah I see it now
[15:28:43] <Rab> Or just didn't know.
[15:28:43] <XXCoder1> yeah
[15:32:47] <_methods> why is that not on kickstarter!!!!
[15:33:41] <whatsup> Hi all.
[15:34:13] <XXCoder1> whatsup:
[15:34:57] <whatsup> I have a question about linuxcnc. This is the place to make it right?
[15:35:14] <_methods> yes
[15:35:14] <XXCoder1> yeah
[15:37:57] <whatsup> Where do I got to control what happens during a tool change?
[15:38:16] <whatsup> for example, the length of time that water/air is sprayed?
[15:39:22] <whatsup> Also, besides the docs/man pages, is there more info somewhere? Or a course?
[15:41:08] <_methods> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ToolChangerImplementation
[15:42:39] <_methods> i think that breaks down the tool change implementation and the files used
[15:43:16] <whatsup> Thanks _methods!!!
[15:44:04] <_methods> i think this could be helpful too but not sure
[15:44:07] <_methods> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/remap/structure.html
[15:44:42] <_methods> specifically the section on tool change
[15:44:57] <whatsup> ok, i will check it out. i hadn't seen that either
[15:49:56] <whatsup> thanks _methods! i am going out cycling, and I will be back later
[16:20:26] <eventor> i checked out linuxcnc2.6.7. from git.linuxcnc.org, after compiling it says 2.8.0-pre1 , what have i done wrong?
[16:20:52] <cradek> when you say you checked out, what do you mean exactly?
[16:23:42] <eventor> git clone git://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc2.6.7
[16:28:29] <cradek> if you want 2.6.7 you must checkout that version, with something like git checkout v2.6.7
[16:34:26] <eventor> thanks, read git manuals now...
[16:42:01] <Deejay> gn8
[17:24:31] <JT-Shop> eventor, I have a git cheat sheet if you need it
[17:26:54] <eventor> oh, would be good, svn is a bit different
[17:27:49] <JT-Shop> ok, give me a few to wander down to the beer cave and post it
[17:34:12] <jthornton> eventor, start here http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Git
[17:35:41] <eventor> JT, thanks
[17:36:18] <jthornton> a few more tid bits here http://pastebin.com/uPdKgnpJ
[17:36:59] <jthornton> lines like this one make >> /home/john/Desktop/make.txt 2>&1 change john for your computer name
[17:37:14] * jthornton goes back to the shop
[17:45:48] <Cromaglious__> re all
[17:46:38] <Cromaglious__> Debian Wheezy install goes apace
[21:24:08] <jdh> http://wilmington.craigslist.org/tls/4959176092.html
[21:24:25] <jdh> is that an incredibly long bar feeder
[21:43:18] <furrywolf> it sure looks like it
[21:44:01] <furrywolf> machine tools sure are cheaper places that aren't here
[21:44:13] <furrywolf> here $4k might get you a $99 harbor freight wood lathe.
[21:45:46] <jdh> first cnc lathe I've ever seen for sale here
[21:47:40] <SpeedEvil> reasonable amount of tooling indeed
[22:07:18] <furrywolf> argh. slipped while jb-welding something, got as much on me as the part.
[22:08:03] <furrywolf> I should be using mr. sticky anyway, but I had jbweld the first time I fixed it. it, of course, cracked, because jbweld sucks... but now that it's slimed in jbweld, that's the only thing I can use to re-repair it.
[22:12:49] <furrywolf> ebay laptop listing... "excellent fhisical and work condition"
[22:14:48] <furrywolf> the entire description is " excellent fhisical and work condition complit ???not coa"
[22:16:01] <furrywolf> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Panasonic-Toughbook-CF-52-Intel-Core-i5-512-GB-SSD-and-6GB-RAM-DDR3-/321713185156
[22:16:13] <furrywolf> lol, the bios screenshot shows 4gb ram, even though the title says 6gb...
[22:19:11] <CaptHindsight> maybe it's loose
[22:19:44] <furrywolf> I suspect the problem is a screw loose...
[22:19:49] <furrywolf> oh, you mean with the laptop.
[22:20:36] <CaptHindsight> price is kind of low
[22:20:43] <CaptHindsight> so it's suspect
[22:21:42] <furrywolf> no, that's about right for a buy-it-now listing for one.
[22:22:00] <furrywolf> there's a couple sellers listing them at $600-$700, but they never sell, while auctions end around $400.
[22:22:16] <CaptHindsight> wow, older thinkpads held their value longer
[22:22:31] <furrywolf> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Outback-Power-Systems-GFX1448E-Single-Phase-SineWave-Inverter-Charger-/251897590707 "It looks to be in nice condition but it does not weigh nearly what it is supposed to. The spec sheet says 49.6 pounds but when I put it on a scale it weighs approximately 24.5 pounds. Sold as parts not working and is AS-IS." LOL
[22:23:06] <CaptHindsight> maybe it lost 35lbs of smoke
[22:23:29] <furrywolf> or the transformer.
[22:23:54] <furrywolf> the transformer is about half the weight... if it went missing, it'd make it weigh about that much...
[22:23:56] <cpresser> or his scale is set to kg :)
[22:24:29] <furrywolf> lol
[22:24:48] <furrywolf> that is suspiciously close, yes
[22:25:45] <furrywolf> too bad it's 230v/50hz...
[22:28:16] <furrywolf> CaptHindsight: toughbooks are a bit of niche market, and no one wants the "business tough" ones, which that is. (only somewhat splashproof, not sealed)
[22:34:32] <CaptHindsight> ah, makes sense
[23:00:33] <furrywolf> grrrr. the new 6-minute jb-kwik is substantially inferior to the old 4-minute jb-kwik. not only does it take two minutes longer to set, it's much, much, much more liquidy, and runs instead of stays in place.
[23:04:05] <furrywolf> I can probably guess why they changed - the old stuff was so think it was very difficult to get out of the tube - but that meant it stayed in place!
[23:04:47] <furrywolf> that was a tradeoff I was willing to make.
[23:06:13] <furrywolf> s/think/thick
[23:39:03] <renesis> ha, i loved how loctite hysol flowed and took awhile to set
[23:39:51] <renesis> set things up level and you could get bubble sticker like coverage
[23:40:34] <CaptHindsight> watcha gluin?
[23:41:15] <renesis> was just responding to furrys complaints about runny jb weld
[23:43:11] <renesis> heh, i think the coolest thing ive done with hysol was anchor wooden legs for a little table into the dustcap to cone seam of a subwoofer
[23:43:20] <renesis> to make a ghetto little shaker table
[23:43:44] <renesis> haha, i had to use bungee cables to the rafters to rebias the suspension
[23:44:40] <renesis> i think i got a few hours out of it before the voice coil burnt up, eheheh
[23:45:29] <renesis> but yeah more practically, it was awesome for sealing panel mount threaded coax connectors
[23:46:32] <renesis> quick bead on top of the mount nut and it would flow out totally concentric, bubble sticker looking perimeter, looked factory