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[00:28:45] <Jymmm> alex4nder: Why not? For never using one, he did pretty good.
[00:29:17] <Jymmm> alex4nder: a drill, threaded rod, and some scrap wood.
[02:31:23] <zeeshan> https://www.flickr.com/photos/128539016@N05/16189113433/in/photostream/
[02:31:26] <zeeshan> getting good surfac efinish
[02:31:27] <zeeshan> :D
[02:32:22] <Cromaglious> got your lathe working again?
[02:32:52] <zeeshan> yes
[02:33:08] <Cromaglious> nice figure out what is was?
[02:33:30] <Cromaglious> nice firewood to the left there
[02:34:42] <zeeshan> play in the gib
[02:35:19] <Cromaglious> I got the spindle working on the crappy 3040 again... the 2ea 1 ohm 2 watt resistors also burned up... I have a .5 ohm 10watt on order to replaccccccccccccccccceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee them
[02:35:37] <Cromaglious> told ya
[02:35:58] <Cromaglious> white gib or all of them?
[02:36:00] <zeeshan> lol
[02:36:03] <Cromaglious> which
[02:36:05] <zeeshan> only one gib on the machine
[02:36:06] <zeeshan> x axis
[02:36:23] <Cromaglious> cross slide
[02:36:25] <zeeshan> so hungry!
[02:36:30] <zeeshan> yes
[02:36:42] <Cromaglious> you took the compound off?
[02:36:50] <Cromaglious> or no gib on it
[02:36:58] <zeeshan> there was a gib
[02:37:01] <zeeshan> just not tight enough
[02:38:11] <Cromaglious> I bypassed the current sense circuit witht the 2 1 ohms were part of and it's all working again
[02:56:51] <zeeshan> do you cut aluminum with that router?
[03:07:27] <Cromaglious> I have not a pretty sight
[03:07:54] <Cromaglious> I have a 400w spindle on order and a new spindle driver
[03:08:12] <Cromaglious> I'm tapping the current spindle board for DC power
[03:10:30] <Cromaglious> so 45v at 400w will be under 10 amps I should be good
[03:11:10] <Cromaglious> replace the IRF740 with a 30amp 60v mosfett
[03:11:32] <Cromaglious> s/ce/ced/
[03:12:35] <Cromaglious> hmm irf740 is only good for 10 amps...
[03:13:02] <Cromaglious> good thing...
[03:14:03] <Cromaglious> got build an inverter circuit so when amprage gets over 10 amps it limits to 10, ad when voltage gets to 48 it needs to clamp it to 48
[03:14:24] <Cromaglious> got to build
[03:14:52] <archivist> that is a regulator not an inverter
[03:15:08] <Cromaglious> using a 74 inverter I meant
[03:15:34] <Cromaglious> so logic 1 inverter to logic 0 and turns off
[03:15:46] <archivist> limits like that are usually in the analogue domain
[03:16:24] <archivist> you mean set alarms and stop
[03:16:27] <Cromaglious> if amp <= 10 and voltage <= 48 then output 1 else output 0
[03:17:01] <Cromaglious> cut the drive to the mosfet so voltage drops and amperage drops
[03:17:28] <Cromaglious> as long as voltage and amperage is under limits I'm fine
[03:18:53] <Cromaglious> the current sense on the board worked... no where to hook it up to
[03:19:05] <archivist> regulation, keeping something at a limit is different to folding back to 0 amps
[03:20:20] <Deejay> moin
[03:20:33] <archivist> there are many current and voltage regulation circuits out there, they dont use logic though
[03:21:31] <archivist> well they do to an extent, they OR the regulation term in the analogue domain
[03:22:26] <archivist> current foldback limit is a psu and circuit protection that needs the load removing to restart
[03:23:14] <Cromaglious> it's a 555 driving the mosfet, so I need to shut off the pwm to keep things under 10amps and 48v
[03:24:48] <Cromaglious> hmm shoot I need to regulate the other side of the 555
[03:25:22] <Cromaglious> my first way would make the mosfet heat up to much
[03:25:56] <Cromaglious> which I realize is what was happening tonight
[03:26:42] <renesis> damn @ 555
[03:29:44] <renesis> cromaglious: comparator, and gate, done
[03:32:01] <archivist> by the way, stalling the motor is going to break tooling
[03:32:11] <archivist> and the machine
[03:32:30] <archivist> unless you feed the overload back to estop
[03:34:14] <renesis> http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/AZV393.pdf
[03:35:09] <archivist> small temporary overloads in motor circuits are normal and should be designed for
[03:35:24] <archivist> cut the small from that
[03:35:42] <renesis> voltage divider off the 48V into one comparator channel, low side current sense resistor into the other comparator, feed into and gate exactly like in 2nd circuit on first page
[03:35:43] <archivist> acceleration is never a small load either
[04:51:49] <archivist> just missed pi time
http://i.imgur.com/pPAfyNQ.jpg
[04:58:15] <XXCoder> just ate some pie
[04:59:05] <archivist> a radian sized portion
[04:59:51] <XXCoder> here its 2 am
[04:59:57] <XXCoder> so still will happen
[06:39:37] <pippin88> Does anyone know how to implement a hardware button to reset spindle / feed override?
[06:39:49] <pippin88> I've got increase, and decrease, working fine through HALUI
[06:50:06] <archivist> define what you mean by reset and connect to sensible pins
[06:53:51] <archivist> some trickery with a mux component
[06:57:34] <pippin88> sorry, I could have been clearer
[06:57:49] <pippin88> I want a button to set the speed back to 100%
[06:58:00] <pippin88> I've implemented increase and decrease using HALUI.
[06:58:47] <pippin88> I've also got a 'shift' button that changes the increment. If I only press increase/decrease, it changes by 10%. If I hold the shift button and press increase/decrease, it changes by 5%
[06:58:55] <pippin88> I did this with mux2.9 and it works well
[06:59:35] <pippin88> I've got a fourth button, I'd like it to set the feed back to 100% with a single press
[07:00:23] <pippin88> There doesn't seem to be a HALUI pin for this, and I couldn't work out how to set a fixed value
[07:00:30] <archivist> I think this is similar to something done in the hobbing setup, where we inc/dec or set a value
[07:01:22] <archivist> look how the value is set when linuxcnc starts up
[07:02:24] <archivist> like halui.feed-override.counts (s32, in) - counts * scale = FO percentage. Can be used with an encoder or direct-value.
[07:05:57] <pippin88> so can I some thing like: setp halui.feed-override.counts 10
[07:06:17] <pippin88> net resetbtn halui.feed-override.counts
[07:07:10] <pippin88> (I'm not at my workshop, so can't test changes till tomorrow)
[07:08:29] <archivist> one of those try it and see
[07:50:47] <jthornton> hmm, my lathe roughing cycle needs to offset perpendicular to a line to get the correct distance
[07:52:31] <archivist> something flexing?
[07:53:48] <jthornton> I'm just talking out loud about my G71ish python program
[09:35:16] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20150313-digital-cobbler-feetz-raises-seed-funding-for-customizable-3d-printed-shoes.html unfortunately this means thousands of variations of Crocs vs shoes you want
[09:38:12] <archivist> walk 200ft and the plastic cracks
[09:45:35] <archivist> it would be more sensible to have a cnc last that is set to the measurements and standard materials used
[09:51:33] <CaptHindsight> whats obvious to me now is that these venture and investment firms don't ask anyone that actually knows how tech works about the feasibility of these idea with the tech they are proposing
[09:52:13] <archivist> yes, jumping on the ba(n)dwagon
[09:53:07] <archivist> and some/most of the "inventors"
[09:55:15] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20150227-sols-raises-million-to-bring-3d-printed-shoe-insoles-to-consumers.html for custom gel insoles?
[10:33:14] <maZer`-> hi all
[10:33:32] <maZer`-> is there any way to do if routine in g-code, like if M8 ( coolant on) ?
[10:40:11] <archivist> you mean
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/o-code.html#sec:conditional
[10:40:51] <ssi> I dunno if there's a way to look at the state of the coolant in an if though
[10:41:31] <ssi> you may have to use something like M66 and tie coolant state to a digital input
[10:42:03] <furrywolf> meh. raining today. no yard saling.
[10:43:06] <ssi> turbofoggy here
[10:43:07] <ssi> no flying
[10:44:10] <furrywolf> that's what instruments are for.
[10:47:27] <ssi> yeah but there's such a thing as approach minimums
[10:47:33] <ssi> and we are rather below them
[10:47:58] <ssi> plus launching into imc for the jolly hell of it is not remarkably wise
[10:48:47] <furrywolf> lol
[10:49:09] <furrywolf> don't they have gps down to pretty close to 0/0 these days?
[10:49:41] <archivist> gps cannot see obstacles
[10:50:07] <furrywolf> that's what ATC and praying is for.
[10:50:15] <archivist> and no the error vertically is much worse than horizontal on gps
[10:50:36] <ssi> archivist: actually waas fixes that pretty well
[10:50:52] <ssi> we have precision gps approaches now, but legal minimums on them don't go any lower than 200', same as a cat 1 ILS
[10:51:05] <ssi> and my airport only has gps approaches, and the mins on them are 540' I think
[10:51:14] <ssi> so I might be able to get out, but I wouldn't be able to come back :)
[10:51:30] <ssi> could do it if I had to, but it wouldn't be legal or safe or wise
[10:52:00] <furrywolf> you seem to think those three things stop people.
[10:52:16] <archivist> idiots or sensible people
[10:52:33] <JT-Shop> maZer`-, what are you trying to accomplish?
[10:53:20] <ssi> I'm really not sure what your argument is
[10:54:06] <furrywolf> lol
[10:55:13] <ssi> I think you just like to argue for arguing's sake :)
[10:56:01] <pcw_home> You have a problem with that?
[10:56:10] <furrywolf> lol
[10:56:37] <archivist> is this the five minute argument or the full half hour?
[10:57:02] <ssi> wat
[10:57:34] <archivist> Monty Python argument sketch
[10:57:40] <ssi> ah
[11:45:27] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAEjLTdUMAEM0RZ.jpg:large
[11:47:00] <ssi> this bastard is going to be expensive to build :/
[11:47:01] <JT-Shop> plasma table?
[11:47:25] <ssi> laser
[11:48:12] <JT-Shop> belt drive?
[11:48:17] <ssi> yea
[11:49:04] <JT-Shop> make sure it rolls real smooth or you will get the shakes... wanna know how I know?
[11:49:17] <ssi> yeah my last one shook some
[11:49:48] <ssi> I dunno how smooth it'll be with this motion system
[11:49:54] <ssi> just running delrin V wheels in the t-slot
[11:50:32] <ssi> blah I gotta run... bbiab
[11:51:10] <archivist> ssi add cross bracing
[12:12:18] <maZer`-> JT-Shop my problem is i have in my cam software added g4 p5 m8
[12:12:32] <maZer`-> if coolant will be enabled he should wait 5 seconds
[12:12:41] <maZer`-> sorry m8 first and then g4 p5
[12:13:17] <maZer`-> but on next job he wait 5 seconds again, and i want to insert if(coolant off) { M8 G4 P5 }
[12:20:01] <JT-Shop> maZer`-,
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/o-code.html#sec:conditional
[12:20:47] <archivist> same thing I pointed at :)
[12:21:11] <JT-Shop> set #31 to 0 when coolant is off and use if endif
[12:21:15] <JT-Shop> :)
[12:21:43] <archivist> or coolant off = net iocontrol.0.coolant-flood
[12:21:54] <JT-Shop> nap time around here
[12:22:05] <archivist> setting a gcode flag is about as easy
[12:30:53] <tjtr33> there is no feedback for coolant on, there is only feedback for the command was issued.
[12:30:59] <tjtr33> i dunno how critical it is for you.
[12:31:09] <tjtr33> if you dont trust that it happens when you ask for it. write a hal or ladder program to do it that returns significant validation.
[12:31:11] <tjtr33> look at supplied config 'halui-pyvcp' for the trusting version.
[12:41:14] <ffurrywol> only way to really confirm it's on is a flow switch. :)
[12:46:13] <ffurrywol> #1 = 1 (assign parameter #1 the value of 0)
[12:46:24] <ffurrywol> ... lol?
[12:47:35] <kb8wmc_> anyone know of a working auto bed height (leveling) configuration for LinuxCNC 3d printing?
[12:54:45] <CaptHindsight> kb8wmc_: what kind of printer design and tech? cnc glue gun?
[12:55:40] <ffurrywol> "Subroutines do not have return values" ... "Subroutines may optionally return a value"
[12:56:17] <kb8wmc_> CaptHindsight: no, it is a gantry type extruded aluminum frame with J style hot end
[12:57:07] <SpeedEvil> "objects in the rearview mirror may appear closer than they are"
[12:57:09] <CaptHindsight> kb8wmc_: how is the bed mounted? post pics.
[12:57:18] <ffurrywol> s/no/yes
[12:57:51] <kb8wmc_> stationary bed mounted to base frame, moving Z axis
[12:58:56] <miss0r> I was handed an older version of mastercam by a friend who doesn't use it anymore. I am looking for a linuxCNC post processor that works. I have found the
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Cam_Post and downloaded the EMC2.zip file from there. But that does not contain the same file types that I can find in mastercam X5. I can only find something called *.MMD-5 and *.GMD-5. Do any of
[12:58:56] <miss0r> you know how to make this work somehow? or what processor to use to do some working export ?
[12:59:30] <CaptHindsight> kb8wmc_: you can write a book describing it or post some detailed pics
[13:00:27] <kb8wmc_> CaptHindsight: will try to locate a picture and post it...
[13:06:50] <lffurrywo> grrrrrr. my connection is really sucking today.
[13:12:13] <kb8wmc_> CaptHindsight: I cannot locate a picture of it, I may have deleted it...or it may just be lost somewhere in my file system
[13:12:49] <archivist> kb8wmc_, best to machine adjust the bed to be flat
[13:13:28] <kb8wmc_> CaptHindsight: think of it as a table top router type...
[13:14:32] <kb8wmc_> CaptHindsight: roger that, I take it you have not heard of or seen such bed compensation for LinuxCNC?
[13:14:36] <archivist> kb8wmc_, but if too lazy to fix the mechanics
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ProbeKin
[13:14:52] <archivist> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ProbeKins missed an s
[13:15:18] <kb8wmc_> archivist tnx
[13:25:54] <lffurrywo> that's pretty handy, actually... I'll need to remember that.
[13:26:53] <archivist> it is for pcb milling rather and similar rather than machine fixing
[13:27:13] <lffurrywo> yeah, that's what I'd want it for - it's hard to get pcbs perfectly flat.
[13:29:43] <miss0r> have anyone in here successfully used gcode output from mastercam in linuxcnc?
[13:29:57] <lffurrywo> not I. isn't mastercam annoyingly expensive?
[13:30:41] <archivist> miss0r, I think some do, but you may need to fiddle the post processor for best results
[13:30:44] <miss0r> lffurrywo: yes it is. lucky for me a friend of mine had an older version and dongle he gave me
[13:31:09] <miss0r> archivist: I'm having a hard time figuring this out :)
[13:33:05] <lffurrywo> so how long should I leave parts in my electrolysis rust removal test bucket? been about 20 hours now...
[13:33:37] <archivist> till looks ok and no longer mebe
[13:34:40] <lffurrywo> that'd mean I have to pull it out, which is annoying since I dropped random anodes around it and would have to pull them out and put them back in later...
[13:34:51] <lffurrywo> plus I have 9 jumper wires connecting different parts of it
[13:37:38] <lffurrywo> (chain binder, with various moving parts, hooks, etc)
[13:49:18] <lffurrywo> bbl, plumbing
[13:55:43] <zeeshan> http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7621/16809035215_a33ef1bd83_h.jpg"
[13:55:46] <zeeshan> http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7621/16809035215_a33ef1bd83_h.jpg
[13:55:50] <zeeshan> made the collar for my drill chuck
[13:55:54] <zeeshan> cnc ftw!
[14:06:41] <SpeedEvil> :)
[14:06:59] <SpeedEvil> CNC, or knurl?
[14:09:09] <zeeshan> well knurl was done on the lathe too
[14:09:51] <zeeshan> http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8589/16189113433_5a4265b06f_h.jpg
[14:09:57] <zeeshan> surface finish in hot roll now
[14:10:16] <zeeshan> minu the chatter from my chamfering tool
[14:10:25] <zeeshan> i really dislike those spiral flute chamfering bits
[14:21:40] <maZer`-> big big thanks JT-Shop and archivist :D
[14:22:14] <maZer`-> an tjtr33 :)
[14:22:16] <maZer`-> and
[14:29:16] <sliptonic> I have a magnetic brake on the Z axis. I'd like to always turn it off before a move and on right after a move. What are the right search terms/ hal components I should be looking at?
[14:34:33] <skunkworks> sliptonic: normally you would just turn the brake off when linuxcnc is 'on' and in control.
[14:36:19] <skunkworks> it is unlikely that the brake will turn off quick enough unless you have a delay. which would screw up motion.
[14:36:36] <sliptonic> ahh. o.k. Easy enough.
[14:51:39] <pcw_home> arghh this time I am going to remove the laptop harddrive when I install Debian on the SSD
[14:51:41] <Cromaglious> http://itslinux.org/cnc/0313.html
[14:51:52] <Swapper> pcw_home: you there? Would it be possible to read a 0-5v diferientail pressure sensor with the 7i77 in some smart way ?
[14:52:02] <Cromaglious> pictures of my FUBAR pw3618 power supply
[14:52:12] <Swapper> i read that field voltage can be mesured
[14:52:33] <Swapper> but i need to read 0-5v and my field voltage is 24v
[14:53:03] <Cromaglious> Swapper: look for a setting sserial=000xxx and change it to sserial=300xxx
[14:53:17] <Cromaglious> you can then read analog values from your inputs
[14:53:28] <Cromaglious> wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwith proper settings
[14:54:10] <Cromaglious> Mac was having the same problem earlier.. so you might look at the logs
[14:54:11] <Swapper> yea but would it work if u feed the pressure sensor with 5v stepped down from the 24v fieldvoltage and then feed the signal to the 7i77 ?
[14:54:58] <Cromaglious> you can play with it using a resister bridge
[14:55:53] <Cromaglious> actually do a google search for sserial=300xxx that's how I found it
[14:56:11] <Swapper> i have some LM2596 stepdowns, that can be set to 5v
[14:56:37] <Swapper> but im more unsure of the connecting it to the 7i77 part
[14:56:42] <Swapper> dont wanna fry it
[14:58:03] <Cromaglious> put in a current limiting resister then
[15:02:57] <pcw_home> swapper not very well, you can add a 7I87
[15:05:28] <Swapper> ok ty
[15:23:19] <pcw_home> You are no likely to fry 7I77 inputs (120 VAC for a short time wont hurt) the just are low res A-D with 36V full scale
[15:24:13] <Swapper> ok, ill make some arduino thingy that can read the 5v
[15:24:36] <pcw_home> so a 5 V FS signal would only be ~5 bits resolution
[15:25:05] <pcw_home> if you dont need real time, Arduino is fine
[15:25:07] <Swapper> its only to get some value if the coolant filter is clogged
[15:25:17] <Swapper> so no need for realtime
[15:25:22] <pcw_home> yeah not real time
[15:30:59] <pcw_home> Hmm learned my lesson with update grub (few hours to fix)
[15:31:54] <skunkworks> pcw_home: what happened?
[15:33:19] <pcw_home> well I installed the new kernel on my laptop (running on a debian only SSD) but it installed grub on the windows hard drive
[15:33:47] <skunkworks> oops
[15:34:52] <pcw_home> so i remove my SSD to instal the DVD drive to install Xilinx ISE on windows and get GRUB rescue menu no drive 776576587655884 or some such
[15:36:09] <pcw_home> so didnt have a windows recover disk and no way to make one (cant boot windows anymore without SSD in DVD slot)
[15:38:24] <pcw_home> so had to find a MBR tool (WTF doesn't windows have on in a standard installation?)
[15:38:26] <pcw_home> to fix the windows disk and then needed to re-install debian to fix the also non bootable SSD
[15:38:27] <pcw_home> (since no grub was installed on it)
[15:43:03] <pcw_home> I can fix it a lot faster now anyway... (less time spent swearing)
[15:54:00] <pcw_home> re-install was mostly a no-op since I didn't reformat the partitions so nothing really lost
[16:28:17] <Swapper> if i would like to only compile a user comp from a git pull how would i do that ?
[16:28:20] <Swapper> /linuxcnc-dev/src/hal/user_comps/vfs11_vfd
[16:35:44] <cradek> back up, why do you want to do that?
[16:36:43] <Swapper> i have tried getting the Altivar vfd comp working, but its old and outdated, thaught that i maybe could change the vfs11_vfd code to use the right registers for the Altivar
[16:38:39] <cradek> that is one that uses the modbus library, not a trivial build. you'll probably have to build and run the whole tree.
[16:39:24] <cradek> I don't know what altivar vfd comp you are talking about - we don't have one in the tree by that name
[16:39:41] <Swapper> no its contributed
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?VFD_Modbus
[16:39:52] <Swapper> http://git.mah.priv.at/gitweb/emc2-dev.git/shortlog/refs/heads/altivar-vfd-comp
[16:40:20] <Swapper> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/24-hal-components/28954-compiling-altivar-vfd-modbus-comphttp://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/24-hal-components/28954-compiling-altivar-vfd-modbus-comp
[16:40:41] <Swapper> i asked and someone got it so i could compile it but it wont talkt correctly to the comport
[16:40:42] <cradek> ahh, someone's old branch with no maintainer, that never got contributed
[16:40:53] <cradek> if you want to fix it up and become the maintainer I'll help you contribute it
[16:41:30] <Swapper> im not sawwy enough, i only thaugt i could give it a try to change the modbus registers
[16:41:46] <Swapper> else ill try the mb2hal
[16:41:55] <Swapper> since that can read the registers but its not as fancy
[16:43:14] <cradek> yeah unfortunately this is a bad commit that needs a lot of work
[16:43:29] <cradek> it's hard to say what approach would be best for you to try
[16:44:31] <tjtr33> Swapper, did you try to contact the author?
[16:44:39] <Swapper> yea the mail is dead
[16:44:46] <Swapper> got a bounce
[16:44:52] <tjtr33> sorry
[16:49:28] <zeeshan> swapper
[16:49:33] <Swapper> yes
[16:49:54] <zeeshan> do you have a link to the manual for your vfd?
[16:49:59] <zeeshan> i'd like to see the communication method for it
[16:50:08] <Swapper> 1 sec
[16:50:22] <zeeshan> to see if you can quickly change some of my code around with diffeerent registers
[16:50:24] <zeeshan> and make it work
[16:51:51] <Swapper> http://www.engineering.schneider-electric.dk/Attachments/ia/use_main/atv31_communication_variables_user_manual.pdf
[16:51:58] <Swapper> thats the modbus config manual
[16:52:10] <Jymmm> https://github.com/mhaberler
[16:52:24] <Swapper> zeeshan:
http://git.mah.priv.at/gitweb?p=emc2-dev.git;a=blob;f=src/hal/contrib/altivar-vfd-comp/atv/atv_vfd.c;h=8a746c04959aad1f98023107fd55bab0cec82a99;hb=04e08b52b28732b4bf2fb0dd7283fe7496741167
[16:52:43] <Swapper> Thats what the old authr used in the non working comp
[16:53:04] <Swapper> so you dont need to plow the whole manual
[16:53:46] <zeeshan> its easier to see the manual
[16:53:56] <zeeshan> page 12 gives the register for fwd / rev etc
[16:54:02] <zeeshan> 0x8601
[16:54:38] <zeeshan> ah i see it in the code too
[16:54:58] <Swapper> yea its the same only in hex in the code
[16:55:35] <zeeshan> ok sweet
[16:55:59] <zeeshan> you could make that comp work somehow
[16:56:03] <zeeshan> or just use python
[16:56:41] <Swapper> Its over my head to debug why the original code is not working.
[16:56:58] <zeeshan> is communication 100% working
[16:57:05] <zeeshan> with the vfd so you can send some test commands?
[16:57:15] <Swapper> yea
[16:57:20] <Swapper> 2 min away
[16:57:38] <zeeshan> what are you settings for the protocol
[16:57:41] <zeeshan> ascii? rtu ?
[16:57:45] <Swapper> rtu
[16:57:51] <zeeshan> can you use ascii?
[16:58:27] <Swapper> dont think so
[16:58:41] <zeeshan> thats fine
[16:59:32] <Swapper> SERIAL_BAUD=19200 SERIAL_BITS=8 SERIAL_PARITY=even MB_SLAVE_ID=1
[17:00:06] <zeeshan> stop bits?
[17:00:32] <Swapper> 1
[17:01:14] <Swapper> i have that in the mb2hal config and i can read registers fine there
[17:01:32] <zeeshan> ah okay
[17:02:14] <zeeshan> gimme a sec ill give you a sample code to run
[17:02:18] <Swapper> shure!
[17:02:18] <zeeshan> to read some registers and see if it works.
[17:02:30] <Swapper> great
[17:10:30] <zeeshan> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5u2pnc1tolccntp/comms.py?dl=0
[17:10:46] <zeeshan> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2om3aczyqs7z6lo/altivar.py?dl=0
[17:10:47] <Swapper> ok
[17:10:48] <zeeshan> download those 2 files
[17:10:53] <zeeshan> and put them in /usr/local/bin
[17:11:07] <zeeshan> and do chmod +x altivar.py
[17:11:15] <zeeshan> then type halrun
[17:11:18] <Swapper> are you Jonas ?
[17:11:20] <zeeshan> loadusr altivar.py
[17:11:32] <zeeshan> see if it gives you any communication errors
[17:11:38] <zeeshan> ive only put read commands, so its s afe.
[17:11:41] <Swapper> ill test it, gime a sec
[17:11:50] <zeeshan> no im not jonas :P
[17:23:34] <Deejay> gn8
[17:23:40] <Swapper> halcmd: loadusr /usr/local/bin/altivar.py
[17:23:41] <Swapper> halcmd: <stdin>:1: execv(/usr/local/bin/altivar.py): No such file or directory
[17:23:57] <Swapper> zeeshan: im probably doin it wrong here though
[17:24:04] <zeeshan> no
[17:24:09] <zeeshan> just do loadusr altivar.py
[17:24:14] <zeeshan> no need for path
[17:24:32] <Swapper> same error
[17:25:23] <zeeshan> did you store the file in the write path?
[17:26:01] <Swapper> /usr/local/bin
[17:26:08] <Swapper> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 1902 Mar 14 21:56 altivar.py
[17:26:14] <Swapper> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 98535 Mar 14 21:53 comms.py-rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 98535 Mar 14 21:53 comms.py
[17:27:12] <Swapper> /usr/local/bin# ./altivar.py
[17:27:12] <Swapper> bash: ./altivar.py: /usr/bin/python^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[17:27:20] <Swapper> but thats when i run it from bash
[17:27:24] <zeeshan> oh you dont have python installed?
[17:27:28] <Swapper> yea i have
[17:28:08] <zeeshan> find where the python intrepreter is
[17:28:27] <Swapper> whereis python
[17:28:28] <Swapper> python: /usr/bin/python
[17:28:41] <zeeshan> lol what the heck is going on
[17:29:15] <Swapper> #!/usr/bin/env python
[17:29:18] <Swapper> is that right ?
[17:29:51] <zeeshan> yes
[17:30:04] <zeeshan> maybe hard code it instead
[17:30:07] <zeeshan> and see if thats the problem
[17:30:14] <zeeshan> replace it with #!/usr/bin/python
[17:31:06] <Cromaglious> ^m says to me he needs to run it thru dos2unix
[17:31:22] <Cromaglious> get rid of the cccccccccarriage reeeeeeeeeeeturns
[17:31:36] <Swapper> doh
[17:31:47] <Swapper> sec
[17:40:27] <Swapper> halcmd: Traceback (most recent call last):
[17:40:27] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/altivar.py", line 2, in <module>
[17:40:27] <Swapper> import linuxcnc, hal, time, comms
[17:40:27] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/comms.py", line 56, in <module>
[17:40:27] <Swapper> import serial
[17:40:30] <Swapper> ImportError: No module named serial
[17:40:35] <Swapper> atleast got it to run
[17:41:28] <zeeshan> are you using ubuntu?
[17:41:46] <zeeshan> easy_install -U pyserial
[17:43:09] <Swapper> apt-get install python-serial
[17:43:13] <Swapper> im dumb.. sorry
[17:43:23] <zeeshan> youre not dumb
[17:43:29] <zeeshan> i need to put this in the instructions
[17:45:56] <Swapper> halcmd: Traceback (most recent call last):
[17:45:57] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/altivar.py", line 44, in <module>
[17:45:57] <Swapper> vfd['spindlevfd.drivestatus'] = int(serialvfd1.read_register(3201, 0))
[17:45:57] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/comms.py", line 274, in read_register
[17:45:57] <Swapper> return self._genericCommand(functioncode, registeraddress, numberOfDecimals=numberOfDecimals, signed=signed)
[17:46:00] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/comms.py", line 713, in _genericCommand
[17:46:02] <Swapper> payloadFromSlave = self._performCommand(functioncode, payloadToSlave)
[17:46:05] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/comms.py", line 819, in _performCommand
[17:46:07] <Swapper> payloadFromSlave = _extractPayload(response, self.address, self.mode, functioncode)
[17:46:10] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/comms.py", line 1099, in _extractPayload
[17:46:13] <Swapper> receivedChecksum = _hexdecode(response[-numberOfChecksumBytes:])
[17:46:15] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/comms.py", line 1841, in _hexdecode
[17:46:16] <zeeshan> use pastebin for lage dumps :p
[17:46:18] <Swapper> raise TypeError('Hexdecode reported an error: {}. Input hexstring: {}'.format(err.message, hexstring))
[17:46:21] <Swapper> TypeError: Hexdecode reported an error: Non-hexadecimal digit found. Input hexstring: รน>
[17:46:24] <Swapper> sorry
[17:46:26] <Swapper> yes will do
[17:46:55] <Swapper> http://pastebin.com/StLrVima
[17:46:59] <zeeshan> son of a bitch, it wants it in hex
[17:47:00] <zeeshan> lol
[17:47:34] <Swapper> http://git.mah.priv.at/gitweb?p=emc2-dev.git;a=blob;f=src/hal/contrib/altivar-vfd-comp/atv/atv_vfd.c;h=8a746c04959aad1f98023107fd55bab0cec82a99;hb=04e08b52b28732b4bf2fb0dd7283fe7496741167
[17:47:42] <Swapper> you have the hex ones there
[17:47:48] <Swapper> most of them atleast
[17:47:52] <zeeshan> those are decimal
[17:48:09] <Swapper> no
[17:48:17] <Swapper> #define REG_CMD 0x2135 // Control Word CMD 8501 frequency
[17:48:22] <Swapper> 0x2135 <<< hex ?
[17:48:28] <zeeshan> yes thats hex
[17:48:37] <Swapper> #define REG_CMD 0x2135 // Control Word CMD 8501 <<decimal frequency
[17:49:01] <zeeshan> the vfd manual is abit odd cause it gives the register address in decimal
[17:49:18] <Swapper> yea ive seen both types
[17:49:23] <Swapper> its a mishmash
[17:49:28] <zeeshan> just sudo chmod altivar.py
[17:49:32] <zeeshan> er
[17:49:38] <zeeshan> sudo modify the altivar.py
[17:49:54] <zeeshan> 3201 should be replaced by 0xC81
[17:50:47] <zeeshan> 3202 = 0xC82, 3204 = 0xC84 , 3205=0xC85, 3206=0xC86, 3207=0xC87
[17:57:33] <Swapper> http://pastebin.com/BEngaS8B
[17:57:37] <Swapper> similar error
[17:58:56] <zeeshan> oh, the addresses were fine
[17:59:07] <zeeshan> its having a hard time intrepreting the response from your vfd :P
[17:59:34] <zeeshan> are you sure you've got rtu mode set on the vfd?
[18:00:29] <Swapper> modpoll -m rtu -a 1 -r 1 -c 10 /dev/ttyACM1
[18:00:29] <Swapper> yea
[18:00:32] <Swapper> couse that works
[18:00:36] <Swapper> i get values
[18:01:30] <zeeshan> well
[18:01:41] <zeeshan> if thats the command youre using, then its not set to 19200 bps
[18:01:48] <zeeshan> 9600 is the default value in modpoll
[18:02:11] <Swapper> -b # Baudrate (e.g. 9600, 19200, ...) (19200 is default)
[18:02:18] <zeeshan> oh
[18:05:46] <zeeshan> would need to do some debugging on the response message to get anywhere
[18:09:38] <Swapper> i have no real clue on how to get that debug info tough
[18:09:53] <Swapper> can pyserial debug?
[18:10:10] <CaptHindsight> "PC LOAD LETTER" ?
[18:10:44] <zeeshan> you will need to go to line 1841 in comms.py
[18:10:58] <zeeshan> output the hex string that has causing the fault
[18:11:07] <zeeshan> i feel like its to do with incorrect communication setting
[18:13:47] <_methods> heheh
[18:14:21] <_methods> CaptHindsight: did you see they redid office space with the real michael bolton playing michael bolton
[18:19:17] <Swapper> zeeshan: ill laborate with some comm settings.
[18:19:23] <Swapper> Ty for the help so far !
[18:19:36] <zeeshan> np
[18:19:40] <zeeshan> once you get it reading
[18:19:47] <zeeshan> its really easy from there
[18:20:04] <Swapper> yea think i get the idea of it now
[18:35:48] <Cromaglious> sheeshz what's this bullpucky.. dos2unix is now called tofrodos
[18:37:17] <pcw_home> Its that LOTR tie in money
[18:49:34] <Cromaglious> sudo ln -s todos unix2dos
[18:49:42] <Cromaglious> well that fixes that
[18:49:56] <Cromaglious> sudo ln -s fromdos dos2unix
[18:51:59] <Tom_itx> is there a way to force win7 to run 32 bit?
[18:52:04] <Tom_itx> programs...
[18:54:21] <Cromaglious> compatibility mode, but drivers are only 64 bit
[18:54:47] <Tom_itx> i don't care to re-purchase all my software
[18:54:47] <Cromaglious> so I can't run my nicolaudio suidi5c dmx controller
[18:56:54] <Cromaglious> my 32bit laptops aren't that stable anymore
[18:57:25] <Tom_itx> only other option i see is to get win7 32bit but it's hard to find
[18:57:42] <Tom_itx> and that would kinda defeat the purpose of upgrading too
[19:01:44] <Cromaglious> well I got a 12 slider dmx console, and I have DMXking usb for 64bit computer controlled
[19:02:16] <Cromaglious> IF I need it... just looking at getting some wireless dmx transceivers
[19:24:42] <CaptHindsight> _methods:
http://digg.com/video/michael-bolton-office-space
[19:32:12] <_methods> yeah
[20:19:33] <Cromaglious> phlatplugins is driving me up the wall
[20:19:47] <Cromaglious> trying to cut an inside edge
[20:26:10] <Cromaglious> wow didn't realize Ry underhill is STILL making Woodwright!
[20:35:01] * lffurrywo is sick of rain
[20:38:45] <Jymmm> lffurrywo: 89F here.... Hottest March 14th on record
[20:43:24] <furrywolf> it's not cold here. just wet.
[20:44:38] <malcom2073> It's pretty rainy here today too, supposed to be dry tomorrow
[20:45:17] <furrywolf> supposed to be more-rainy tomorrow here
[20:45:33] <furrywolf> I was hoping to do a dump run, but doesn't look likely.
[20:52:38] <Cromaglious> it's Pi day so grab a piece of Pie
[20:52:49] <furrywolf> argh. I hate web designers. hate, hate, hate. looking at a website now that decided to be "cool" and display a fade over the top and bottom of text boxes... breaking scrolling in not one way, but two! If you go down a page, you miss two lines... and the fade is OVER THE SCROLL BAR, so you can't click it.
[20:53:32] <malcom2073> The problem with the internet, is that people like me are allowed (sometimes encouraged) to design webpages
[20:53:53] <malcom2073> I'm a c++ developer :P
[20:54:22] <furrywolf> that's not that bad. it's the people with MBAs you really have to worry about.
[20:54:32] <furrywolf> or art.
[20:54:42] <furrywolf> art majors
[20:54:50] <malcom2073> Heh
[20:56:34] <furrywolf> brb
[20:56:49] <Cromaglious> ok got phlat toys working
[20:57:09] <Cromaglious> nw trying to print out the plot grrr
[21:04:16] <Jymmm> /nick Jymmm
[21:05:35] * furrywolf wants toys
[21:17:05] <Cromaglious> finannally got it to print.. just realized I don't have enough over hang on Y to make the cut using the cnc, I have to use a band saw
[21:18:13] <furrywolf> I need a good bandsaw.
[21:18:28] <furrywolf> I bought an old Dayton one at a yard sale, but after trying to use it, I've decided it's worn out.
[21:19:05] <Cromaglious> get the harbor freight, then get the cool blocks for $14 and then the bearing blade guide for $40
[21:19:20] <Cromaglious> then it cuts good as a delta
[21:19:36] <furrywolf> new tools cost too much
[21:19:44] <Cromaglious> is it a 93 1/2" blade 14"
[21:19:51] <Cromaglious> the Dayton
[21:20:24] <zee-Lathe> HOME_SEARCH_VEL = 1
[21:20:24] <zee-Lathe> HOME_LATCH_VEL = 0.008
[21:20:25] <zee-Lathe> HOME_FINAL_VEL = 5.025
[21:20:30] <zee-Lathe> HOME = 1 ; HOME_OFFSET = 3
[21:20:44] <zee-Lathe> why does my lathe sit at -0.2189 after it's homed?
[21:21:06] <furrywolf> I think it's a 64.something" blade
[21:21:09] <cpresser> zee-Lathe: G53 / G54 ?
[21:21:15] <Cromaglious> inner tube to replace the rubber on the wheels, replace bearings good as new, oh and get the bearing blade guide too
[21:21:15] <furrywolf> 4x6" cutting area iirc.
[21:21:34] <Cromaglious> ahh... 12 inch I think
[21:21:34] <zee-Lathe> cpresser, im in g54 mode
[21:21:40] <furrywolf> there's no rubber on the wheels. they're solid castings.
[21:21:46] <Cromaglious> zee what's your stepping?
[21:21:56] <zee-Lathe> ?
[21:22:05] <furrywolf> the bearings are all floppy, and it pisses out gear oil if you try adding any, so you have to use grease instead of oil.
[21:22:08] <Cromaglious> rubber innertube to make them ALOT quiter
[21:22:18] <cpresser> zee-Lathe: well, perhaps you touched off? where does "G0 G53 Z0" (or other axis) move to?
[21:22:37] <furrywolf> the pivots that join the top and the bottom halves are shot, so the whole cutting assembley can move a half inch side to side
[21:22:42] <zee-Lathe> cpresser i havent touched off
[21:22:59] <zee-Lathe> im gonna clean the tool table
[21:23:02] <furrywolf> and it can't be adjusted to cut straight because of it.
[21:23:03] <Cromaglious> furry yeah sounds like its worn out
[21:23:40] <zee-Lathe> that didnt help
[21:23:41] <Cromaglious> unless you repllllllace pins, put bushings in to fix pivots
[21:23:41] <furrywolf> got it for $40, but was in a hurry, didn't have time to give it a thourough inspection.
[21:23:42] <zee-Lathe> still doing the same thing
[21:23:47] <zee-Lathe> magic -.2189 :)
[21:23:55] <furrywolf> one of them is cracked. would need cast iron welding to fix.
[21:24:30] <furrywolf> I've yet to make it even cut a 2x4 at less than a 10 degree slant.
[21:24:31] <Cromaglious> brazing... mule team borax and a bit of brazing rod
[21:25:12] <furrywolf> I'll probably craigslist it when I find a better one I can afford.
[21:25:35] <cpresser> zee-Lathe: try "halcmd show | grep 218" :)
[21:26:03] <furrywolf> then "I can afford" part is the hard part.
[21:26:08] <furrywolf> s/then/the
[21:26:09] <Cromaglious> I'd really suggest a Harbor Freight one if you can find it.. they're 14" using 93 1/2" blade and with kool blocks and the bearing blade guide cuts really well
[21:26:17] <zee-Lathe> 7 float OUT -0.218884 halui.axis.2.pos-relative
[21:26:17] <zee-Lathe> 12 s32 RW 2187 stepgen.update-freq.tmax
[21:26:56] <cpresser> zee-Lathe: so what is halui.axis.2.pos-absolute?
[21:27:26] <furrywolf> I can find it at the local harbor freight. I can't afford it.
[21:29:50] <Captain_Crow> hello
[21:30:39] <Cromaglious> craigslist it
[21:30:50] <zee-Lathe> 7 float OUT -0.218884 halui.axis.2.pos-relative
[21:30:50] <zee-Lathe> 12 s32 RW 2187 stepgen.update-freq.tmax
[21:30:53] <zee-Lathe> er
[21:30:57] <zee-Lathe> there is no such pin cpresser
[21:31:25] <Cromaglious> you can find the one I have with the rusted up table and the guid blocl top for next to nothing and $60 on top of that you have an almost new saw
[21:31:27] <zee-Lathe> 7 float OUT -0.218884 halui.axis.2.pos-relative
[21:31:27] <zee-Lathe> 12 s32 RW 2187 stepgen.update-freq.tmax
[21:31:29] <Captain_Crow> is there a cnc program for modern linux distros or does using linuxcnc require using only a specific linux version?
[21:31:32] <zee-Lathe> man i need to stop pasting that lol
[21:31:33] <zee-Lathe> sorry guys
[21:32:23] <zee-Lathe> 7 float OUT 1 halui.axis.2.pos-commanded
[21:32:23] <zee-Lathe> 7 float OUT 1 halui.axis.2.pos-feedback
[21:32:23] <zee-Lathe> 7 float OUT -0.218884 halui.axis.2.pos-relative
[21:32:28] <zee-Lathe> see! im commanding 1
[21:32:29] <Cromaglious> Captain_Crow, there is a newer debian distro being distributed by linuxcnc.org
[21:32:33] <zee-Lathe> but its stitting at -.21884
[21:32:52] <Cromaglious> I believe linuxcnc will now run on ubuntu 12.04
[21:33:29] <Captain_Crow> is there a downloadable program rather than having to download an entire os though?
[21:33:52] <Cromaglious> yeah, kinda fun getting going though
[21:33:59] <Cromaglious> linuxcnc.org
[21:34:32] <Captain_Crow> is there a way to get it running on linux mint 17?
[21:34:33] <Cromaglious> then having to find a realtime kernel and get that going on your machine..
[21:35:02] <furrywolf> Cromaglious: maybe you can find it, but there's a distinct shortage of usefull tools around here, and they sell for way too much because of it
[21:35:44] <cpresser> zee-Lathe: i am out of clues. i would suggest you try to cancel all offsets and stuff; then check hal-values an try to spot an error/unusual value
[21:35:45] <Cromaglious> ahh.. so next time I'mmmmmmmmmmmmmm going through land of Orgenauts I should bring a trailer full of used SoCal Machine tools
[21:36:04] <zee-Lathe> what offsets?
[21:36:18] <furrywolf> http://humboldt.craigslist.org/tls/4913440535.html the only metal bandsaw on the local craigslist, and it's a good drive from here. the only other bandsaw posted is a wood one... for $900.
[21:39:03] <cpresser> zee-Lathe:
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/coordinates.html
[21:39:51] <Cromaglious> http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/tls/4896437180.html
[21:40:41] <furrywolf> that's a 6+ hour drive, and more than I can afford.
[21:40:45] <Cromaglious> here's on just like mine
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/tls/4897613687.html
[21:40:47] <cpresser> zee-Lathe: there are also offset-values in the tool-table
[21:40:51] <Cromaglious> $110
[21:41:22] <furrywolf> that's a wood saw
[21:41:45] <Cromaglious> cuts metal just fine... with a good metal blade
[21:42:09] <furrywolf> doesn't make automagically straight cuts with gravity feed...
[21:43:18] <Cromaglious> true... But I've cut steel, bronze, delrin, oak, pine, balsa, copper, aluminum with my saw
[21:45:23] <furrywolf> my budget is about $50...
[21:45:46] <Cromaglious> keep saving
[21:46:02] <zee-Lathe> how do you change the startup g-codes?
[21:46:05] <furrywolf> saving requires spare money.
[21:46:11] <Cromaglious> or make a power hacksaw..
[21:47:32] <Cromaglious> wiper motor, battery charger, some tube nesting tube... and some hemi joints or bronze bushings and hard bolts
[21:47:49] <furrywolf> lol
[21:47:57] <furrywolf> I've seen a few antique power hacksaws at yard sales.
[21:48:20] <Cromaglious> there you go... cut just as good, just alot slower and cheaper
[21:48:50] <furrywolf> my current project is making my shoptask lathe/mill combo work...
[21:52:09] <cpresser> zee-Lathe: .ini file
[21:52:46] <furrywolf> time to wire some semi-temporary lights on the porch... first step is finding an extension cord to sacrafice I think.
[21:53:16] <furrywolf> remember, folks! as long as it has a plug on the end, you can claim it's temporary if any inspectors ever shop up and bitch. :)
[21:53:18] <zee-Lathe> i dont see the section
[21:54:39] <Cromaglious> They really love it when it's all powered from a 30amp dryer plug
[21:54:52] <Cromaglious> to a cord sub panel
[21:54:56] <furrywolf> s/shop/show
[21:54:57] <furrywolf> lol
[21:55:28] <zee-Lathe> nm found it
[21:56:11] <furrywolf> I have a long, skinny enclosed porch on one side of the house... installing some light sockets every 6' with LED bulbs.
[21:58:06] <furrywolf> got some porcelain lamp holders that were meant to screw 1/8ip to the back, bent the tabs over to the side so I can mount them flush... then just stick a piece of roof flashing before the bulb, and presto.
[21:59:30] <furrywolf> splice into the middle of a scrap extension cord...
[22:04:43] <Cromaglious> ok finanaly got phlat figured out now to make a sheet of gears
[22:04:50] <furrywolf> yay, I even have the perfect cord. an old troublelight with a flat zip-cord style wire.
[22:05:29] <furrywolf> it's not the original wire, as it's grounded while the light isn't...
[22:07:22] <furrywolf> wow, pretty sketchy plug in the light too... it just has loose blades that push against one side of the prong, no pinching/clamping action of any kind.
[22:08:57] <zee-Lathe> man this is so confusing.
[22:09:12] <zee-Lathe> if i mdi to g0 and read pos-relative
[22:09:17] <zee-Lathe> g01 z0 it reads 0.
[22:09:36] <zee-Lathe> scale is correct. its just after homing its being weird.
[22:20:11] <zee-Lathe> cpresser it was a stored g54 causing the issue.
[22:20:57] <Tom_itx> what modal commands are active during each?
[22:21:04] <Tom_itx> nm
[22:34:44] <zee-Lathe> man im fabricating an enclosure
[22:34:47] <zee-Lathe> using cardboard
[22:35:00] <zee-Lathe> its exactly like making ducts for cars :)
[22:35:08] <zee-Lathe> a pain in the a$$
[22:36:04] <furrywolf> lol
[22:37:09] <zee-Lathe> furry knows the pain
[22:37:10] <zee-Lathe> :)
[22:37:10] <furrywolf> I wrote a program a long time ago to generate cutting templates if you're rolling sheet into tube... you specify where each bend or radius change is, and it generates it. it only handles angular bends and conical diameter changes, however... and it's for round ducts, not enclosures... and I haven't seen the code in ten years. details...
[22:37:26] <zee-Lathe> im a bit old school
[22:37:33] <zee-Lathe> i just do layout with cardboard
[22:37:48] <zee-Lathe> unless im gonna get it bent somewhere else
[22:37:52] <zee-Lathe> then i need drawings :/
[22:37:53] <furrywolf> also, as to car ducts... flexible tube is EASY. :P
[22:38:00] <zee-Lathe> well im talking about
[22:38:07] <zee-Lathe> like a v mount intercooler/radiator setup
[22:38:12] <zee-Lathe> very common on rx7s
[22:38:41] <furrywolf> for hvac and intakes, flexible is easy. :)
[22:39:13] <furrywolf> hrmm, I don't think I got any pics of the intake I did for my subaru... I started with a stock one, then spent a day cutting and gluing it into a new shape.
[22:40:19] <furrywolf> it started out going from the back of the engine to an airbox on the passenger fender, with a bunch of tubes on the bottom, and a fat iac tube... now it goes to a cone filter on the driver's side, with all the tubes still on the bottom, and the iac routed around the back of the engine...
[22:41:38] <furrywolf> going to have to do some creative plumbing and ducting on someone else's subaru... the new engine is going to reach all the way to the back of the front grille. :)
[22:42:05] <furrywolf> radiator will probably go on top of the engine+transmission, with fans blowing the air down the sides of the tranny.
[22:44:25] <furrywolf> new engine is something like 8" longer than stock, and you can't move it back more than an inch without fucking up the cv joints.
[22:44:55] <furrywolf> probably going to leave tranny in stock location, and have the accessory belts running inside the grille.
[22:44:56] <Cromaglious> taking out a 4 and putting in a 6?
[22:44:59] <furrywolf> yep
[22:46:08] <furrywolf> original motor was a 1.8L EA81... currently it has a 2.2L EJ22 in it, already a few inches longer than the stock motor, had to use pusher fans... now swapping in an EG33, 3.3L 6-cylinder.
[22:46:35] <furrywolf> the EJ22 isn't a bad motor, and it's 60hp over stock, but he wants a lot more low-end grunt.
[22:46:54] <Cromaglious> wooo nice dual over head cam
[22:46:54] <furrywolf> EG33 is 230hp naturally aspirated, and a lot more torque.
[22:47:13] <Cromaglious> EA81 isn't that a brad motor?
[22:47:17] <Cromaglious> brat
[22:47:34] <Cromaglious> no Brat was 1.6l
[22:47:44] <furrywolf> early brats used the EA71, up to 1980 or so, then they used the EA81 until they stopped making them in 87 or whatever.
[22:47:55] <furrywolf> ea71 is 1.6l, ea81 1.8l.
[22:48:40] <furrywolf> one of my subarus has an EJ22 in place of the stock EA81, but I think I'm happy with that, not going to shove a 6cyl in mine.
[22:48:55] <Cromaglious> had a buddy with a EA71 then with 356K miles on it
[22:49:07] <furrywolf> if I do any drivetrain mods, it's going to be cracking the tranny to fit a torsen diff in it.
[22:49:50] <furrywolf> while subarus do have more suspension travel than other cars, they're still cars, and are more prone to having a wheel in the air than a jeep is.
[22:52:25] <furrywolf> the ea71 can be reliable, but the ea81 is more reliable... and more power.
[22:52:53] <furrywolf> most subaru motors are pretty reliable, and the ones in the '80s will generally last ~forever if maintained.
[22:54:35] <furrywolf> I just replaced the distributor on my EA81 subaru... the old one got so much shaft play the rotor ate the sensor. my last one did that too... seems the dists are the first part to wear out, but they're 5 minutes to replace.
[22:55:07] <furrywolf> (yes, 5 minutes. and that includes needing to locate tools.)
[23:02:59] <XXCoder> hey furrywolf
[23:27:43] <Cromaglious> 147 PS is 145 BHP 108 KW
[23:37:47] <Cromaglious> furrywolf, said BRB 15 minutes ago
[23:39:17] <XXCoder> really? in my side it shows last time she said something about 5 minutes nd including time to locate tools
[23:40:13] * furrywolf is in more than one place at a time! muwahahaha!
[23:40:50] <furrywolf> was finishing up my light string... should have bought another socket. will do so tomorrow.
[23:41:33] <Cromaglious> I love the LED buld... replacing a 60w light bulb with a 7w LED
[23:41:34] <XXCoder> ahh lool
[23:42:05] <Cromaglious> or replacing the 23w CFL with a 7W LED
[23:42:06] <XXCoder> furrywolf: wanted to ask you - I cleaned van egr but it still errors out :( just much longer and van runs much better
[23:42:10] <furrywolf> 60W replacements are generally 9W. the 7W ones are dimmer.
[23:42:16] <XXCoder> so what else would I do?
[23:42:23] <Cromaglious> ok 9w...
[23:42:31] <furrywolf> and 23W CFLs need 15-19W LEDs. don't believe chinese "equivalents". look at the lumens.
[23:42:34] <XXCoder> I always look at lumens. "60w" is generally 840 lumens
[23:42:42] <XXCoder> indeed1
[23:43:17] <XXCoder> I once saw 100w "equivalent" that was ~400 lumens lol
[23:43:44] <furrywolf> check whatever sensors it uses to determine egr flow
[23:44:07] <furrywolf> cleaning a clogged EGR shouldn't make the vehicle run better, either...
[23:44:25] <XXCoder> oh it was other fixes too like iac and new termostat
[23:44:26] <Cromaglious> Now I have to find dimmers with a low end set... so I can go to almost off on the adjustment and still have light
[23:45:15] <Cromaglious> my old dimmers.. you get to around 1/4 or 1/3 and the LED goes out then you have to turn it up to 1/3 or 2/5 to get it to light again
[23:45:26] <furrywolf> people still use dimmers?
[23:45:40] <XXCoder> my home dinner room has dimmer
[23:45:45] <XXCoder> led lights work well there.
[23:45:57] <XXCoder> if its set to minium it would flash sometimes lol
[23:46:10] <XXCoder> caps would build up then flash then build up
[23:46:10] * furrywolf likes light, and usually wants a brightener, not a dimmer...
[23:46:45] <furrywolf> I need to get to sleep... bbl, wolfy bedtime.
[23:46:47] <Cromaglious> both bathrooms are on dimmers, dinning room, bedroom
[23:47:49] <furrywolf> ... god damnit. looks like my marginal battery decided to stop being marginal today.
[23:48:04] <furrywolf> FN port 3, A -11.5A (enabled), B 0.0A (disabled), C 0.0A (disabled), batt 22.4V, btemp 99.0C, SOC 64.0%, flags 0x08, extra id 2, data 0.00.
[23:48:38] <furrywolf> it used to stay over 23V until <20% SOC... now it dropped down to the 22s while still over 60% SOC.
[23:49:25] <furrywolf> this means that the marginal battery is now officially a 4V battery, not a 6W battery.
[23:49:28] <furrywolf> 6V
[23:49:46] <furrywolf> but, for now, sleep. bbl.
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