#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-11-30

[01:47:28] <anonimasu> hmm..
[01:47:40] * anonimasu is fighting hm2 firmwares
[01:56:31] <Jymmm> anonimasu: Your Firmware-Fu is no good!
[01:56:46] <anonimasu> not really :S
[01:57:16] <Jymmm> You must become ne with the firmware grasshopper
[01:57:21] <Jymmm> one*
[01:57:27] <anonimasu> :)
[01:57:37] <anonimasu> im trying to get to test this damn plasma -_-
[01:57:50] <Jymmm> did you lick it?
[01:58:25] <anonimasu> the firmware.... no it tastes kind of rancid
[01:58:46] <Jymmm> You must lick the plasma to become one with the plasma
[01:59:03] <Jymmm> ...and acheive harmony
[01:59:20] <anonimasu> I have perfect harmony this week
[01:59:31] <Jymmm> $20 sats otherwise =)
[01:59:34] <Jymmm> says
[01:59:52] <anonimasu> new/old vmc day is arriving
[02:00:24] <Jymmm> that's not harmony, that's delivery =)
[02:01:23] <Jymmm> anonimasu: And I shall quote the great divide... http://www.mdxers.org/forums/attachments/general-off-topic/16296d1076766644-fedex-vs-ups-your-thoughts-fedexups.jpg
[02:01:42] <anonimasu> they will not ship a maho mh-700s :D
[02:02:30] <Jymmm> for enough money, they will deliver SAME DAY http://www.fedex.com/us/fedex/shippingservices/package/sameday.html
[02:04:05] <anonimasu> I found a machine that they had for prototype moldmaking(very limited one)
[02:04:47] <anonimasu> no production runs on it, and all the documentation since the machine was brand new
[02:05:12] <Jymmm> prototype? As in no mold is needed?
[02:05:43] <anonimasu> as in, we make one mold to see that it will fit for the machine's we build and we make others make series production
[02:06:16] <Jymmm> I'll take your word for it.
[02:16:26] <Deejay> moin
[08:05:00] <JT-Memphis> how is move off coming along?
[08:18:08] <Tecan> move off ?
[08:18:32] * Tecan lights a candle on fire then shoots it with a shotgun
[08:19:37] <Tecan> moving day for someone ?
[08:37:31] <ssi> morn
[08:37:55] <ssi> enco is doing 20% off and free shipping today and tomorrow
[08:38:03] <ssi> I should take that opportunity to get some tooling for the new lathe!
[08:44:32] <Tecan> free shipping on a whole lathe to canada do you think ?
[08:45:23] <ssi> maybe! ;)
[08:45:31] <ssi> they're claiming free shipping on 9x42 mills
[08:47:50] <ssi> I was gonna get some QCTP holders for it, but the enco price before discount is TWICE what the shars price is, so the discount doesn't really help :P
[09:02:41] <ssi> it's got an AXA post on it, and came with just a couple holders
[09:03:10] <ssi> I need to see if a BXA post will work on it, cause I have a lot of BXA tooling already for the griz, and it'd be nice to be able to interchange
[09:29:37] <GentileBen> Why does #emc redirect to here?
[09:30:30] <Tecan> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Real-Rabbit-Foot-Lucky-Keychain-Vraie-Patte-de-Lapin-Chanceuse-FREE-USA-SHIPPING-/261662742227?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cec5096d3
[09:31:45] <ssi> pete
[09:32:03] <PetefromTn_> yeah
[09:32:23] <ssi> what's up
[09:32:51] <PetefromTn_> not much trying to finsh up my AC installation.
[09:33:05] <ssi> still working on that huh
[09:33:08] <ssi> sounds like a pain
[09:33:20] <PetefromTn_> went thru my entire crawlspace looking for leaks etc.
[09:33:36] <PetefromTn_> trying to insulate everything
[09:33:51] <PetefromTn_> but yeah its a pain in the ass
[09:34:03] <PetefromTn_> not fun crawling under the house
[09:35:11] <PetefromTn_> but I figure it was either I do it myself right the first time or pay another jackass hack thousands of dollars to screw it up for me.
[09:35:18] <ssi> that's pretty much how it goes
[09:36:23] <PetefromTn_> it has been in my experience so far anyways.
[09:36:24] <ssi> man this new lathe of mine is unbelievably sweet
[09:36:31] <ssi> I'm really glad I snagged it
[09:36:32] <PetefromTn_> nice
[09:36:37] <PetefromTn_> glad to hear it
[09:36:51] <ssi> it's small, but it's in very good shape, and it's a very precise machine
[09:37:02] <PetefromTn_> Im sure
[09:37:15] <ssi> I spent a couple hours yesterday with a bottle of degreaser and a rag shining it up
[09:37:32] <PetefromTn_> gotta love degreaser
[09:37:45] <PetefromTn_> can polish up any old turd LOL
[09:37:49] <ssi> heheh
[09:37:58] <ssi> got it leveled and wired
[09:38:06] <PetefromTn_> I use that green stuff
[09:38:06] <ssi> I had to raise the headstock end of the cabinet 1/4" :o
[09:38:12] <PetefromTn_> mean green
[09:38:22] <ssi> I've got a bottle of zep industrial purple concentrate
[09:38:23] <PetefromTn_> takes off almost anything it seems
[09:38:33] <ssi> I mixed a big batch of it in the cinci
[09:38:35] <ssi> it's still in the coolant tray
[09:38:46] <PetefromTn_> I bought some orange stuff that is just okay
[09:39:00] <PetefromTn_> funny thing is I got the mean green at the damn dollar store
[09:39:07] <PetefromTn_> and the orange stuff at home depot
[09:39:08] <ssi> heheh
[09:39:17] <PetefromTn_> the mean green works WAY better
[09:40:05] <PetefromTn_> I have not bothered to level up my CNC lathe yet
[09:40:19] <PetefromTn_> I figure I will be moving it around a lot to get the new control parts installed
[09:40:44] <ssi> yeah definitely
[09:40:53] <ssi> I leveled the cinci but I can't move the bitch anyway so it doesn't matter :)
[09:40:55] <PetefromTn_> once I get the CNC parts installed I will get it all level and clean
[09:41:02] <PetefromTn_> yeah rihgt
[09:41:04] <PetefromTn_> right
[09:41:08] <ssi> plus I have 2' behind and right of it so I can get around it
[09:41:24] <PetefromTn_> that is not one you can throw your weight into and move )
[09:41:28] <ssi> :)
[09:41:35] <ssi> I checked the level on it again yesterday actually
[09:41:39] <ssi> to verify my level was still calibrated
[09:41:42] <ssi> and it's still dead level
[09:41:49] <ssi> dunno why it wouldn't be, but good to know :)
[09:42:16] <PetefromTn_> they're so damn heavy they tend to stay put I think once they are setup.
[09:42:33] <PetefromTn_> I have heard that a lot of super fast never CNC
[09:42:44] <PetefromTn_> have to be bolted down to keep them from dancing around the shop
[09:42:56] <ssi> yeah I've heard that too
[09:42:58] <ssi> that'd be terrifying
[09:43:16] <PetefromTn_> G forces man.... G forces!!
[09:43:45] <ssi> check this out
[09:43:45] <ssi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb4HcjZYCNo
[09:44:04] <ssi> after I made this, I swept it up the taper at archivist's suggestion and it's dead true all the way up
[09:44:07] <ssi> weee
[09:44:22] <PetefromTn_> nice
[09:44:35] <PetefromTn_> that is about what I saw on my lathe actually but I did not make a video
[09:44:51] <ssi> I took one of the buck set-tru 6 jaws that came with it and chucked up a test bar, and it ran like crap and I couldn't adjust it in
[09:45:06] <ssi> so I pulled it off the backplate, faced it and trued the spigot
[09:45:15] <ssi> now I can dial my test bar down to sub-tenth
[09:45:17] <PetefromTn_> you have more than one buck 6 jaw set tru's?
[09:45:24] <ssi> and if I pull it and re-chuck it, it runs about .0005
[09:45:27] <ssi> yeah it came with TWO
[09:45:31] <PetefromTn_> jeez
[09:45:32] <ssi> and a four jaw
[09:45:39] <ssi> yeah that's why it was the deal of the year :)
[09:45:49] <ssi> AND, it's the same spindle thread as my hardincge
[09:45:55] <ssi> I've never had a chuck for the hardinge, now I do
[09:45:56] <ssi> :D
[09:46:02] <PetefromTn_> I am not sure I want a six jaw or just a nice set tru three jaw with replaceable jaws
[09:46:15] <ssi> I'd prefer it had come with a six and a three
[09:46:26] <ssi> but I'm not unhappy with what it did have :)
[09:46:41] <PetefromTn_> I know the guys in the shop I used to work in did a lot of custom bolt down jaw work and it seemed to be very good and easy
[09:47:01] <ssi> my clausing came with a set-tru 6 jaw buck that was worn out as crap
[09:47:13] <ssi> it only had three jaws installed, but they were narrow 6-jaw type jaws
[09:47:21] <ssi> and they weren't straight
[09:47:24] <ssi> needed to be reground
[09:47:33] <PetefromTn_> damn
[09:47:36] <PetefromTn_> that sucks
[09:47:38] <ssi> yeah
[09:47:47] <ssi> well it's dan's problem now! :D
[09:48:04] <ssi> I sold it to him for like half what I paid for it though
[09:48:11] <PetefromTn_> I am going to probably have to wait until tax return time to get this CNC running with work the way it has been lately.
[09:48:21] <ssi> yea
[09:48:33] <ssi> I'm waiting for insurance to hurry up and pay me
[09:48:39] <ssi> I owe a bunch of people a bunch of money :(
[09:48:57] <PetefromTn_> LOL yeah I sold my 12x36 for $900.00 more than I paid for it and I think the guy got a great deal really.
[09:49:06] <ssi> yeah man that was a sweet lahte
[09:49:09] <ssi> I really was surprised
[09:49:21] <PetefromTn_> I would buy another one if I got a good deal on it.
[09:49:48] <ssi> yeah I have been watching for them
[09:50:04] <ssi> I bought this lathe cause it seemed like a great deal, but it's smaller than I'd like
[09:50:10] <ssi> I wouldn't have bought it if the spindle bore had been smaller
[09:50:15] <ssi> but it's 1.4", which is awesome
[09:50:22] <ssi> I can do rifle work on this machine easy
[09:50:23] <PetefromTn_> it was pretty nice to have all the important stuff on it.
[09:50:59] <PetefromTn_> steady rest, follower rest, faceplate, four jaw, three jaw, dead centers, live centers, etc. etc.
[09:51:07] <ssi> yeah
[09:51:31] <PetefromTn_> all of which I no longer have sigh
[09:51:31] <ssi> you know I've never had a lathe dog
[09:51:37] <ssi> never done any work between centers
[09:51:39] <PetefromTn_> I made my own
[09:51:51] <PetefromTn_> it was a clamp type
[09:52:13] <PetefromTn_> used a single bolt thru one of the holes for the D1-4 headstock lugs
[09:52:26] <PetefromTn_> worked decent but I would not take real heavy cuts with it.
[09:52:53] <PetefromTn_> I did a lot of between centers work on that lathe.
[09:53:12] <ssi> the sb has a taper attachment on it too and I want to play with that
[09:53:19] <ssi> I'm gonna try to make some morse tapers for funsies
[09:53:20] <PetefromTn_> usually would machine a headstock center from a piece of scrap.
[09:55:07] <ssi> I can't find any of my indicators on mag bases except the two tenths indicators
[09:55:14] <ssi> I know at least one of them was in the house :/
[09:55:19] <archivist> morse tapers are oddballs
[09:56:10] <archivist> mr morse's measuring was a bit crude
[09:56:13] <ssi> heheh
[09:56:35] <PetefromTn_> nonetheless they are in tons of machines now
[09:56:47] <archivist> funny how the errors made it into the standard
[09:57:32] <ssi> ugh I have to replace my gage block set too :(
[10:08:24] <ssi> good lord
[10:08:33] <ssi> enco's price on a buck 6-jaw solid jaw settru chuck
[10:08:41] <ssi> $1034.26
[10:09:11] <ssi> then another $191.29 for the backplate
[10:15:13] <PetefromTn_> shits expensive
[10:15:39] <archivist> some southbend left http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231397356618
[10:16:21] <ssi> yow
[10:33:24] <Tecan> anyone here do waterjet ?
[10:33:37] <_methods> yeah
[10:33:42] <Tecan> was wondering how small the cuts go
[10:33:52] <_methods> depends on the nozzle and orifice
[10:34:04] <_methods> but i think our kerf is .04"?
[10:34:11] <_methods> or .08"
[10:34:35] <_methods> can't remember i can go check tomorrow for you if you want
[10:34:53] <Tecan> so a little bigger than a laser but still good for cutting out fine detail
[10:34:57] <_methods> compared to the laser where the kerf is like .005"
[10:35:09] <_methods> 10x the size of laser lol
[10:35:55] <_methods> depends on how fine
[10:36:31] <_methods> small stuff on waterjets can be a nightmare
[10:36:41] <_methods> you have to tab stuff in or it falls in the tank
[10:37:34] <archivist> the cut is tapered if the pressure is low, if high the nozzle wears
[10:38:21] <_methods> you have a print for what you want cut?
[10:39:35] <PetefromTn_> always thought waterjets were amazing. Then I got to run one and see how it works and was less than impressed. That is a dirty nasty machine that seemed to only work really well on thin sheet materials. The results of the cutting is a huge nasty slugdy mess. JMHO
[10:39:50] <_methods> they suck
[10:40:00] <_methods> always breaking down
[10:40:12] <PetefromTn_> nozzles break and wear
[10:40:13] <_methods> constant rebuilding the intensifier
[10:40:36] <_methods> noisy, dirty, did i mention noisy?
[10:41:04] <PetefromTn_> plasma cutters are not much better but I would rather have a CNC plasma any day really let alone a powerful CNC laser.
[10:41:19] <PetefromTn_> again JMHO
[10:41:28] <Tecan> http://www.unlimitedfab.ca/files/2813/2614/2498/Waterjet-Cutting04.jpg
[10:42:07] <_methods> that's what you want to cut?
[10:42:35] <_methods> should be doable
[10:45:31] <Rab> zeeshan, try googling "cable gland" if you're looking for power entry options.
[10:45:58] <SpeedEvil> Waterjets are easy to make.Take 20 pressure-washers, hook them up in series, each inside its own little pressurised tank
[10:46:10] <Rab> (s/power/cable/)
[11:27:03] <ssi> my chuck bounty!
[11:27:03] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3tHjsIIIAAAjPl.jpg:large
[11:27:26] <ssi> both of them have full sets of outside and inside jaws, and the top one has a set of 3 jaw outside jaws too!
[11:27:38] <ssi> and I checked the top chuck with all three sets of jaws, and they all clamp well and run true
[11:29:06] <Tom_itx> yeah don't mix em up
[11:37:10] <SpeedEvil> :)
[11:38:00] <ssi> Tom_itx: I was thinking about putting a letter stamp in them so I have an A set and a B set
[11:38:51] <SpeedEvil> naah - just heat one up till it goes a pretty straw colour
[11:38:54] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: http://openlunchbox.com/ is the contrast better now?
[11:38:56] <PetefromTn_> surprised they are not already numbered, I always put a witness mark on my jaws and marked where I started them when installed on the chuck body.
[11:41:01] <archivist> should find the jaw numbers when cleaned up
[11:41:05] <Tom_itx> ssi i hope they are numbered to their slots...
[11:42:27] <ssi> they're numbered
[11:42:37] <ssi> but both sets are identical, so they'd be easy to mix up
[11:42:49] <ssi> when I got it, one chuck had all inside jaws in it and the other had all outside jaws in it
[11:42:52] <Tom_itx> i noticed that
[11:42:55] <ssi> so the sets are complete
[11:42:56] <archivist> no serial number as well?
[11:43:02] <Tom_itx> so mark them with letters then
[11:43:02] <ssi> archivist: on the jaws?
[11:43:06] <archivist> yes
[11:43:14] <Tom_itx> or SN like he says
[11:44:15] <ssi> not that I can find
[12:05:46] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: yeah
[12:06:17] <XXCoder> you told em to chznge or what?
[12:09:18] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: check this out http://wave.webaim.org
[12:09:33] <XXCoder> just found it, that site has minor issues
[12:13:56] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: well some of it is at the mercy of the wordpress template used
[12:14:11] <XXCoder> dont be shamed, its very few errors
[12:14:18] <XXCoder> my faviorite has over 30
[12:14:31] <XXCoder> you need to check single contrast error though
[12:14:36] <CaptHindsight> that is the fun of software, trying to use some tool to save you time that is generally broken
[12:15:09] <CaptHindsight> that is why I prefer eating solder paste to coding :)
[12:15:19] <XXCoder> lol
[12:15:42] <archivist> wordpress, the gluegun of the web
[12:16:06] <XXCoder> capt in least I stopped one website from fading out lol
[12:16:15] <Tom_itx> ggg instead of www
[12:16:19] <XXCoder> the white virus is everywhere now
[12:17:58] <XXCoder> great! other site which had REALLY BAD case of white virus changed text to darker blue
[12:18:13] <XXCoder> still bright blue but in least not very light gray!
[12:19:32] <CaptHindsight> all the free themes seem to be broken in one way or another
[12:20:07] <CaptHindsight> I'm not sure what you get if you trade money for them either, might just be less broken
[12:20:09] <XXCoder> other site checked. it was almost solid white. now very nicely done
[12:21:04] <archivist> you can have fugly and no contrast errors :) www.collection.archivist.info
[12:21:36] <XXCoder> archivist: lol definitely need little work - might have issues with red-blue blindness
[12:22:06] <archivist> I would question the reliability of that tool
[12:22:10] <XXCoder> archivist: surpise! zero contrast error
[12:22:15] <XXCoder> http://wave.webaim.org/report#/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.collection.archivist.info%2F
[12:22:42] <archivist> I know I tried it, the errors are not real errors either
[12:23:06] <XXCoder> form label is very useful for blind people
[12:23:13] <XXCoder> special plugin speaks em
[12:23:30] <XXCoder> leaving it blank means can't figure what its for
[13:33:23] <ssi> dang this little lathe runs great
[13:33:30] <ssi> just cut a test 5/8-24 thread
[13:33:44] <XXCoder> nice
[13:35:42] <XXCoder> man I need to get mine to working condion. router cnc that is
[13:35:46] <ssi> I need a propane torch
[13:35:55] <ssi> don't think I have one here
[13:36:38] <XXCoder> destroyed at house?
[13:37:00] <ssi> nah it's sitting in the garage, thoroughly undestroyed :P
[13:37:32] <XXCoder> lol ok
[13:37:59] <XXCoder> im still kinda amazed on bad luck I had recent thankgiving
[13:39:10] <XXCoder> not as bad as your house fire but yea
[13:39:34] <XXCoder> I was on way home when my van decided to just stop working.
[13:40:05] <XXCoder> when I got tow truck to come, he dropped me off at home and was on way to shop when had an accient
[13:40:36] <XXCoder> my van wasnt directly hit (it was on flat bed) but it seems oti damaged my van front susendation system
[13:42:19] <XXCoder> ssi: ever happened to you?
[14:30:30] <zeeshan> i'm really confused with how this din terminal blocks work:
[14:31:15] <zeeshan> http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Terminal_Blocks/DINnector_DIN-Rail_Terminal_Blocks/Double-level_Feed-Through_Terminal_Blocks/DN-D10-A
[14:31:40] <zeeshan> is there anyway to join em
[14:31:42] <zeeshan> side by side
[14:31:46] <zeeshan> to make like a 24vdc rail?
[14:39:46] <cpresser> zeeshan: there are connectors you can put on top to bridge individual clamps
[14:40:00] <zeeshan> hm
[14:40:17] <zeeshan> i've been trying to look
[14:40:19] <zeeshan> but i think im search for the wrong terms
[14:40:32] <cpresser> that is what the center hole is for
[14:40:47] <cpresser> i dont have a clue how they are called, sorry
[14:40:57] <zeeshan> can you use them as a neutral bus?
[14:41:04] <zeeshan> as long as they're rated for the current?
[14:41:32] <cpresser> https://www.phoenixcontact.com/assets/images_ed/global/web_content/pic_con_a_0044864_int.jpg
[14:41:40] <zeeshan> nice
[14:41:41] <zeeshan> thats it.
[14:42:03] <pfred1> looks like a header
[14:42:27] <zeeshan> when i search for din rail neutral bus bar
[14:42:27] <zeeshan> i get this:
[14:42:42] <zeeshan> http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/877/422/110/110422877_365.JPG
[14:42:50] <zeeshan> that doesnt look too safe cause its not insulated :P
[14:43:27] <cpresser> you dont need insulation for N or PE :)
[14:43:48] <pfred1> google is just so brain dead about some things
[14:43:52] <cpresser> usually those are not isolated inside the fuse-cabinet
[14:44:15] <zeeshan> https://www.flickr.com/photos/128539016@N05/15289716823/
[14:44:23] <zeeshan> they will big going next to those big j style fuse holders
[14:44:27] <pfred1> google should provide a service where you get to punch one of those punching clowns
[14:44:30] <zeeshan> both ground annd neutral
[14:44:36] <zeeshan> thats why i was hoping to find insulated ones
[14:44:38] <pfred1> and it'd feed back into the network
[14:44:41] <zeeshan> its kinda tight there
[14:45:19] <cathode> heyo
[14:46:14] <Tom_itx> zeeshan how much current do you need on the 24v rail?
[14:46:25] <zeeshan> 15A
[14:46:41] <Tom_itx> i don't think the mesa common block would handle that
[14:46:51] <zeeshan> the neutral needs to be rated for 100A
[14:46:53] <zeeshan> same w/ ground
[14:46:59] <Tom_itx> no way
[14:47:12] <zeeshan> i have a 100A block from a fuse panel
[14:47:14] <zeeshan> but theyre not insulated
[14:47:34] <zeeshan> ground i dont care about
[14:47:39] <zeeshan> but neutral it'd be nice to have insulated
[14:48:13] <cathode> 100A @ 24v?
[14:48:16] <zeeshan> https://www.flickr.com/photos/128539016@N05/15418489479/
[14:48:22] <zeeshan> thats the neutral bus bar
[14:49:30] <Tom_itx> mount a breaker box
[14:50:55] <zeeshan> i dont need a breaker box
[14:51:00] <zeeshan> i have fuses
[14:51:05] <zeeshan> i just need a neutral bus bar :/
[14:51:10] <zeeshan> that is insulated
[14:51:41] <cathode> so, question for people. lets say i wanted to make a decent size CNC mill for wood and metal, would it make sense to start off with a tiny limited version and use that to 'bootstrap' the larger mill by fabricating a lot of my own parts?
[14:51:59] <Tom_itx> go big or go home
[14:52:20] <cathode> i see stuff like this and i think "i would never rely on this for anything meaningful" but it might be good enough to make parts for a real machine. http://www.instructables.com/id/Easy-to-Build-Desk-Top-3-Axis-CNC-Milling-Machine/
[15:13:06] <Tom_itx> depends what you want and what you have room for
[15:13:26] <Tom_itx> if i had room i'd get a big one with a broken control to convert
[15:15:48] <Connor> zeeshan: http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Terminal_Blocks/Screwless_DIN-Rail_Terminal_Blocks/Single-level_Terminal_Blocks_-a-_Accessories/DN-24J4Y for use with any DN-T10-A, DN-D10-A, DN-M10-A and DN-Q10-A series terminal block.
[15:16:03] <Connor> I use the screw style in mine..
[15:40:32] <Tecan> http://www.haskel.com/Haskel/en/Products/Pneumatic-Pumps/Liquid-Pumps/-2-HP-Air-Driven-Pump-Models
[15:41:02] <Tecan> 10k psi for waterjet
[15:42:21] <Tecan> suposedly its what the guy on hackaday used
[15:43:43] <Tecan> why does this hobby cost so much :)
[15:43:53] <Tom_itx> find one that doesn't
[15:44:04] <Tom_itx> oh and good luck with that...
[15:45:05] <Tecan> i know a guy with a table so theres no need to make one but to buy there in the 50k dollar range
[15:46:32] <Tecan> 90k on ebay
[15:47:01] <pfred1> a good water jet can set you back a cool mil
[15:47:10] <Tecan> holy jeeze
[15:47:19] <pfred1> I met a guy at a craft show that had one
[15:47:24] <pfred1> he ran it 24/7
[15:47:42] <Tecan> youd have to just to pay it off
[15:47:50] <pfred1> he'd stack steel plates in it a foot high and cut them all in one go
[15:48:51] <pfred1> beautiful finish was like you sanded all of the edges
[15:49:40] <pfred1> Tecan yeah, he had kind of a wild sleepless look in his eyes
[15:50:00] <pfred1> like he was sweating those bank payments or something
[15:50:30] <Tecan> yeah its hard doing all the work and trying to find buyers for it too
[15:50:42] <Tecan> one man bands are getting rarer
[15:52:06] <Tecan> you think to yourself , oh im connected to a global market but when it comes time to push the product you actually need retail
[15:52:40] <Tecan> kickstarter and indigogo never work for me
[15:53:31] <pfred1> oh he had people working for him
[16:21:05] <Deejay> gn8
[18:48:41] <PetefromTn_> Woohoo....Finally got my new Heat and Air Conditioning system fully installed and working.
[18:49:29] <PetefromTn_> twas kind of a pain in the keister but it seems to be working perfectly
[18:49:50] <PetefromTn_> now if I can just figure out how this fancy programmable thermostat works ;)
[19:27:32] <SpeedEvil> :)
[19:29:27] <jdh> don't you have small children?
[19:29:38] <PetefromTn_> who me?
[19:30:55] <jdh> yes, you.
[19:31:06] <PetefromTn_> yeah I do
[19:31:16] <jdh> get them to program it ofr you
[19:31:30] <PetefromTn_> they probably could do a better job of it heh
[19:31:30] <jdh> I know how you old guys don't do so well with technology.
[19:31:50] <PetefromTn_> honestly I have just not sat down and read thru the considerable manual
[19:32:07] <PetefromTn_> you would think for something as simple as a thermostat that would not be necessary
[19:32:12] <jdh> manuals are for the weak... and for poor UI designers
[19:32:39] <PetefromTn_> sure
[19:32:56] <PetefromTn_> I am just really glad the damn thing is working right
[19:33:23] <PetefromTn_> I also redid a lot of the duct work under the house fixed some leaks and insulation problems etc.
[19:33:35] <PetefromTn_> hopefully our power bills will be a bit less this winter now.
[19:33:37] <jdh> cool.
[19:33:46] <jdh> did you fix under-the-house duct leaks?
[19:34:19] <PetefromTn_> well the vast majority of those leaks were from the previous "PRO" who installed the last unit.
[19:34:29] <PetefromTn_> we removed all of what he did basically.
[19:34:32] <jdh> here, they do wonders for keeping mold out of the crawl space
[19:34:34] <jdh> (leaks)
[19:35:02] <PetefromTn_> now we have it all sealed up and insulated except for the new transitions sheetmetal I made
[19:35:20] <PetefromTn_> I am kinda tapped out right now and need to get some more cash to buy the blanketing for those bits.
[19:35:43] <PetefromTn_> other than that it is all brand new under there right up to the main distribution duct
[19:36:00] <PetefromTn_> it sure was nice to feel nice warm air coming from the ducts earlier.
[19:36:16] <PetefromTn_> we cranked it up to like 79 to make sure the unit functioned
[19:36:38] <PetefromTn_> now we got it set on like 73 and waiting for the temp to drop in the house so it comes on again.
[19:36:55] <jdh> 68f and sunny here today
[19:36:55] <PetefromTn_> the unit is SO quiet you can barely hear anything
[19:37:08] <PetefromTn_> it was probably close to that here today
[19:37:14] <jdh> my upstairs gets hot from sun even in the winter
[19:37:15] <PetefromTn_> it was quite nice outside working on it
[19:37:56] <PetefromTn_> I have to install an upstairs return duct to help suck the heat out of the upstairs tho
[19:38:18] <PetefromTn_> I already cut the hole and have the sheetmetal pieces made up for it.
[19:38:31] <PetefromTn_> just need to get it plumbed in
[19:38:32] <jdh> I think that would confuse my two units.
[19:38:46] <jdh> but, would probably do wonders for keeping the downstairs warm in the winter
[19:39:33] <PetefromTn_> I gotta find a suitable bezel for the box my AC friend made for the upstairs return
[19:39:46] <PetefromTn_> and a filter that is the right size too
[19:41:16] <PetefromTn_> gonna run out here in a minute to get some new filters for the main return
[19:41:34] <PetefromTn_> wanna keep my nice new schtuff working nice and new LOL
[20:00:55] <Tecan> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Dental-Lab-Surveyor-II-Milling-Machine-/191413441606?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c91215446
[21:18:36] <PetefromTn_andro> Evening everyone
[21:23:10] <XXCoder> hey
[21:23:23] <XXCoder> how was your duct project
[21:32:21] <PetefromTn_andro> Everything is finished and working beautifully thankfully
[21:38:57] <PetefromTn_andro> Now onto more work and cnc pursuits hopefully
[21:42:39] <PetefromTn_andro> My shop is a complete mess right now from the project. Going to be spending several hours tomorrow morning putting the tools away and cleaning up the rest of the junk from the job.
[21:43:11] <PetefromTn_andro> I also need to take the old air handler apart and remove the squirrel cage fan
[21:43:37] <PetefromTn_andro> Should make for a nice shop air circulation fan this summer
[21:44:42] <t12_> check it out I upgraded my camera
[21:44:43] <PetefromTn_andro> I have to get rid of the old unit and all the scrappy duct pieces we removed
[21:44:47] <t12_> http://dodeca-t.com/photos/20141130-20141130-_B302712.jpg
[21:45:21] <PetefromTn_andro> Neat what the Hell is it?
[21:45:34] <t12_> spoiler increases my megapixels
[21:45:41] <PetefromTn_andro> Rofl
[21:46:02] <PetefromTn_andro> Looks like a nice camera
[21:47:07] <XXCoder> awesome PetefromTn_andro
[21:47:14] <XXCoder> lol
[21:47:29] <XXCoder> perfect for holding camera in heavy headwind ;)
[21:48:15] <PetefromTn_andro> My wife made some delicious banana bread damn it was yummy!!
[21:49:42] <PetefromTn_andro> I gotta get working on her Alice in Chains edge lit light project here.
[21:50:11] <PetefromTn_andro> Already have it all progremmed
[21:50:54] <PetefromTn_andro> Just need to get a spoil board mounted in the cnc so I can tape down the plexiglass sheet.
[21:51:30] <PetefromTn_andro> Still working on the design for the base led light holder
[21:52:06] <PetefromTn_andro> Have not received the leds yet so might wait until I have the strip here to measure from
[21:52:32] <XXCoder> cool
[21:52:42] <PetefromTn_andro> I think I am going to make it from a nice hardwood probably
[21:53:56] <PetefromTn_andro> I want to be able to stuff all the electronic stuff in the base and just have a chord and the remote control
[22:03:40] <XXCoder> nice
[22:56:35] <cathode> can anyone reccomend a good quality air pressure regulator that tops out at 150psi?
[22:58:24] <zeeshan> is this
[22:58:27] <zeeshan> just for shop air
[22:58:33] <zeeshan> or you using for painting
[23:20:45] <CaptHindsight> I need a <100psi gauge that doesn't break if it sees >100psi
[23:21:46] <CaptHindsight> the gas purge valve stuck closed on the MIG yesterday and it reads 10 psi at room pressure now :(
[23:25:34] <XXCoder> aw
[23:27:12] <cathode> it's for regulating pressure to a pair of pneumatic cylinders