#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-11-29

[01:03:49] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/jgJ3EZc.png
[01:03:54] <zeeshan> woohoo
[01:03:56] <zeeshan> success
[01:06:58] <XXCoder> whats you do
[01:12:29] <zeeshan> vfd is working
[01:12:33] <zeeshan> but i have an issue now
[01:12:38] <zeeshan> it wont die if i pull the communications cable
[01:12:41] <zeeshan> it keeps running
[01:12:45] <zeeshan> even though the watchdog is on..
[01:13:41] <zeeshan> its weird my other vfd dies
[01:13:46] <zeeshan> if i pull the cable
[01:35:05] <Tecan> nano actually looks notbad for editing
[01:36:16] <Tecan> how did you get it to do that
[01:36:18] <zeeshan> only thing its missing is line numbers
[01:36:26] <zeeshan> do what
[01:36:37] <Tecan> syntax highlighting
[01:36:42] <zeeshan> no idea lol
[01:36:44] <zeeshan> its like that default
[01:36:54] <Tecan> not mine
[01:37:03] <Tecan> oh i'll try a c file
[01:37:41] <Tecan> nope and mines newer than yours
[01:37:45] <Tecan> 2.3.2
[01:38:32] <zeeshan> weird
[01:39:43] <zeeshan> man this is driving me insane
[01:39:50] <zeeshan> the damn watchdog isnt doing its job
[01:44:57] <Tecan> added a couple lines to .nanorc and it works now, coolness
[01:46:29] <zeeshan> nice
[02:08:25] <Deejay> moin
[02:53:48] <Loetmichel> soo, e-cig juice just arrived... now i can drive to my sister and rewire her house... i should order that stuff way in advance, not when the last bottle is empty ;-)
[03:11:18] <Jymmmm> Loetmichel: veggie based?
[03:12:01] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: normal 50/50 mix of propyloene glycol and vegetable glycerin
[03:12:29] <Jymmm> "normal" I thught it was 100% glycol?
[03:13:25] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: where did you order from?
[03:13:56] <Loetmichel> www.dampfplanet.de
[03:27:56] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: thanks
[03:34:56] <renesis> i dont think there is a normal
[03:35:47] <renesis> i usually get 50/50, lots of small batch sellers are double secret pg/vg ratio
[03:36:21] <renesis> but when i was into 100% vg not like it was hard to find
[11:32:07] <_methods> all this silence in hear must mean everyone is working on some awesome projects
[11:32:17] <_methods> take pics!!!!!
[11:33:03] <renesis> im about to murder some acrylic with questionable fixturing
[11:33:05] <archivist> I washed my jeans ready for monday, I am not taking pics!
[11:33:23] <_methods> hahah i'm about to wreck up some pcb myself
[11:33:33] <_methods> with said questionable fixturing
[11:34:53] <ssi> I'm sitting on my ass
[11:34:59] <ssi> but soon I think I'll go down and wire up the SB
[11:35:08] <_methods> well i'm sure you need a break
[11:35:20] <_methods> you've had enough excitement for a few years i'm sure
[11:35:36] <ssi> heheh
[11:35:42] <ssi> I did take some pics tho, putting them up now
[11:36:06] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3n_8aGIIAAWmy6.jpg:large
[11:36:13] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3n_-RBIcAAw0M4.jpg:large
[11:36:21] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3oACALIUAEGSWK.jpg:large
[11:36:27] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3oADLhIEAA6tn0.jpg:large
[11:38:20] <_methods> yeah man looks good
[11:38:20] <archivist> what is the extra lever on the bottom of the saddle
[11:39:18] <_methods> i think that's the feed lever
[11:39:23] <_methods> cross nut is far right
[11:39:34] <_methods> cross slide feed is right under cross slide
[11:40:06] <_methods> nice its got the taper attachment too
[11:40:10] <renesis> im using post-it note shim stock =\
[11:40:31] <_methods> i use soda cans
[11:42:22] <pcw_home> I saw a trick for opening a padlock with a a bit of a soda can
[11:42:47] <archivist> mine is a rotating knob for the fine feed grip
[11:47:21] <_methods> yeah i saw that soda can thing from some defcon video
[11:47:27] <ssi> I haven't gotten into running it yet, but I think:
[11:47:54] <ssi> teh one one the right is the longitudinal halfnut, the one on the left is the power crossfeed, and teh one in between is fwd/neutral/reverse for the crossfeed
[11:48:35] <ssi> I'm debating whether I should take it apart, clean it up, and paint it before I start using it
[11:49:04] <ssi> probably shouldn't :P
[11:49:48] <_methods> that's an undertaking
[11:50:36] <archivist> I can see many similarities with my earlier southbend
[11:52:13] <ssi> it's an undertaking
[11:52:19] <ssi> but stuff like this is unholy inspiring
[11:52:19] <ssi> http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/south-bend-lathes/heavy-10-restoration-213514/index3.html#post1496654
[11:53:39] <archivist> ouch far too shiny error al line one
[11:53:46] <ssi> hahaha
[11:54:42] <archivist> I started painting mine more than once http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=southbend
[11:55:59] <ssi> that green is kinda horrible ;)
[11:56:29] <ssi> yours is an older single-tumbler machine
[11:56:32] <ssi> mine's early 60s I think
[11:56:45] <archivist> I think mine is wartime
[11:57:43] <ssi> yeah looks about right
[12:00:58] <ssi> I wonder if I can put a lever collet closer on this lathe
[12:01:02] <ssi> it came with a handwheel closer
[13:53:19] <renesis> guys guys
[13:53:23] <renesis> i made a clamp
[13:53:25] <renesis> http://imgur.com/1HsCICm
[13:53:32] <renesis> for tewb
[13:54:07] <renesis> almost, i still have to machine holes for screws, should have done first
[13:55:15] <renesis> thats solidworks, imported as sldprt into fusion360, posted as tormach or who knows
[13:56:41] <renesis> if you look close you can see where i fucked up
[13:58:38] <renesis> i forgot to tram column before, motor stalled doing something near a wall for the little square nut step,thre off the x and y for everything else =\
[13:59:13] <renesis> also bottom is kind of nasty because just snapped off and filed the last .010 or so
[14:02:26] <SpeedEvil> why perspex?
[14:07:24] <XXCoder> man I love this geeky comic lol http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2014/11/29/scooby-doo-vs-doctor-who-comic/
[14:10:39] <XXCoder> ssi: damn lathe looks good after restore
[14:14:00] <Swapper> anyone know what a good pullup resistor would be for a Mesa 7i77 input ?
[14:14:04] <Swapper> 24v
[14:14:08] <Swapper> field voltage
[14:14:39] <zeeshan> i was told 200 ohms
[14:14:44] <Swapper> ok
[14:15:16] <Swapper> guess worst ting that happen is that i short the psu
[14:20:38] <renesis> speedevil: because i have so much
[14:21:28] <renesis> wow @ 200R
[14:22:27] * SpeedEvil is contemplating a 2.4m long boring bar.
[14:22:29] <renesis> thats like, 120mA, so like 2.5w?
[14:22:39] <renesis> thats a badass pullup
[14:22:40] <SpeedEvil> Fortunately, just to cut foam.
[14:23:00] <jdh> perhaps he left out a 2.
[14:23:16] <renesis> 2200?
[14:23:26] <jdh> yes
[14:23:37] <renesis> thats just a healthy pullup
[14:23:59] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3omW3vIEAA7_6Z.jpg:large
[14:24:02] <ssi> clean lathe! :D
[14:24:11] <renesis> and that still a half watt resistor
[14:24:14] <renesis> =\
[14:24:16] <jdh> nice. another lathe?
[14:24:23] <ssi> yeah, what's it to ya? ;)
[14:24:30] <XXCoder> lathes. all way down
[14:24:34] <jdh> I'm all for multiple lathes
[14:24:35] <Swapper> renesis: ty for the info :)
[14:24:45] <ssi> I sold my clausing
[14:24:50] <ssi> so now I'm back up to exactly 1 manual lathe
[14:25:09] <jdh> and 2 cnc?
[14:25:12] <ssi> yeah
[14:25:18] <ssi> but the griz is on the floor at the moment :P
[14:25:50] <renesis> we have clausing at school, neat castings for the beds
[14:26:06] <ssi> so far I like the southbend better than the clausing
[14:26:17] <ssi> clausing was much bigger, but I think this is probably a better machine
[14:26:22] <Swapper> im tinkering with my touch probe, i plan on using "ground" in a 3,5mm plug to indicate to Linuxcnc that i have the tool in the spindle (shorts to ground) any thaughts on that ?
[14:26:31] <Swapper> so i can inhibit the spindle
[14:26:44] <Swapper> the touch function will go over the other two leads
[14:27:00] <renesis> 3.5mm is a shit connector
[14:27:19] <Swapper> yea, but its cheap and its for hobby use
[14:27:43] <renesis> yeah
[14:28:14] <renesis> they dont have a lot of contact area
[14:28:23] <Swapper> it tried to find some smart magnetic contacts that would break free if somting where to happen, but cant find any
[14:28:46] <renesis> i would suggest buying rean, theyre neutrik's consumer connector brand
[14:29:03] <renesis> they bought rean so they didnt have to have neutrik and made in china on the same package, heh
[14:29:33] <ssi> repurposed apple magsafe? :P
[14:29:57] <Swapper> yea looked at the applice magsafe but they are pricy
[14:30:03] <Swapper> and flimsy
[14:30:24] <Swapper> ill try with my little 3,5 and see if i get any prob.
[14:30:35] <Swapper> Not that much usage of it anyhow i guess
[14:30:39] <renesis> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/888451-REG/Neutrik_nys231_3_5mm_STEREO_PLUG_NICKEL_SILVER.html
[14:30:54] <renesis> ^would trust
[14:31:04] <Connor> is there a hal component that can take a bunch of inputs.. and mux them down to a binary output to use with mux4 or mux8 to get a specific value out ?
[14:31:07] <renesis> dont buy switchcraft
[14:31:17] <Connor> http://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/hardware/mpg.html
[14:31:43] <Connor> Figure 2.0 Setting the scales for mux4.0 -- I will be using more than 3 inputs..
[14:31:50] <renesis> swapper: also make sure your inputs can handle being shorted
[14:31:56] <renesis> because thats going to happen
[14:32:23] <SpeedEvil> shorted to every available voltage in the system
[14:32:26] <Swapper> renesis: shorted? itsa mesa 7i77 and it will accept 24 in
[14:32:28] <SpeedEvil> and ideally 240VAC too
[14:32:28] <Connor> I was able to do it using 5 or components..but that's nuts.. gotta be a easier way.
[14:32:31] <SpeedEvil> ah
[14:32:33] <SpeedEvil> nvm
[14:32:59] <renesis> swapper: no like your supply to gound if you have them both on the connector
[14:33:13] <Swapper> ahh, humz
[14:33:16] <renesis> dunno what youre putting on the end of the miniplug
[14:33:18] <Swapper> that might be a prob
[14:33:36] <renesis> yeah the tip hits sleeve and ground on the way out
[14:33:41] <ssi> Connor: lut5
[14:33:43] <renesis> and sleeve hits ground
[14:33:54] <Swapper> i have to test that, thank you
[14:34:02] <renesis> maybe look into mini xlr
[14:34:28] <renesis> or just xlr if size doesnt matter and you want cheap available plug and cables
[14:34:28] <Swapper> whats the 3,5 plugs called that detect if a plug is in the hole ?
[14:34:50] <Connor> ssi Not sure how that would work.. I looked at that comp and didn't really understand it.
[14:34:51] <renesis> usually just a switched jack
[14:34:52] <Swapper> size does matter, its hard as it is to fit in the probe adapter
[14:34:56] <renesis> they come in lots of configs
[14:35:13] <ssi> Connor: it's a bit crazy, but it's a generic 5 input logic component
[14:35:33] <ssi> there's a python script floating around that'll let you give it a binary expression and it'll give you the function number to use for the component
[14:35:34] <renesis> also look into midi connectors
[14:35:59] <renesis> theyre a standard din connector that wont go away, buy cables any music place, get 5 contacts and shield
[14:36:00] <Swapper> i have some xlr for other stuff
[14:36:01] <ssi> Connor: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Lut5
[14:36:04] <renesis> well, maybe
[14:36:14] <Swapper> but its to bulky for this
[14:36:16] <renesis> midi cables might not run all the wires
[14:36:22] <Connor> I think I need a MUX component.. that.. well.. muxes into binary.. (not what mux4 or mux8 do)
[14:36:39] <renesis> mini-xlr is prob best option
[14:36:49] <ssi> Connor: can you express what you need as a boolean expression?
[14:36:57] <ssi> like a OR b OR c OR d?
[14:36:59] <ssi> that'd be a mux4
[14:37:20] <Connor> Not in the end. it's a scale. using a rotary switch..
[14:37:50] <Connor> 6 outputs.. off, .0001, .001, .01, .1, .2
[14:37:54] <Swapper> renesis: if i put a resistor on the 24v that going to the probe it should handle the short when i plug the probe?
[14:38:05] <ssi> Connor: pncconf is capable of generating configs which handle rotary switches for that kind of stuff
[14:38:27] <Connor> let me run up a generic config and see how it's doing it.
[14:39:42] <jdh> my shuttleexpress does somethign like that for jog speed
[14:40:16] <renesis> swapper: yes something like that prob works
[14:40:33] <Swapper> nice, ill try that
[14:41:01] <jdh> Connor: check the jog speed portion of: https://github.com/araisrobo/linuxcnc/blob/master/configs/common/shuttlexpress.hal
[14:41:08] <jdh> not exactly concise though
[14:48:12] <Connor> jdh: Dam.. That's complicated.
[14:50:32] <Connor> Hmm.. it's using something called tristate-float
[14:50:37] <Connor> I'm not seeing that comp
[14:51:09] <Connor> okay.. it's called tristate_float
[14:52:59] <renesis> charlieplexed
[14:53:11] <Connor> renesis: It's not charlieplexing.
[14:53:28] <renesis> i was joking because hiz float
[14:53:41] <Connor> it's float in, float out if enabled..
[14:53:49] <Connor> kinda strange they called it tristate
[14:54:40] <ssi> I just dropped a 6" chuck on my damn knuckle D:
[14:54:56] <ssi> my knuckle did an excellent job of protecting the ways tho! :(
[14:56:00] <_methods> ouch
[14:56:35] <ssi> it's swelling up like a balloon, but I don't think it's broken
[14:57:45] <_methods> that's usually not a good sign
[14:58:14] <_methods> you're having one hell of a year here lol
[14:58:21] <ssi> you ain't kidding ;)
[14:59:07] <_methods> that's how last year was for me
[14:59:19] <_methods> my aunt, grandma, and father all died last year
[14:59:32] <ssi> :(
[14:59:56] <_methods> it wasn't a happy year but this one has been much better
[15:04:21] <XXCoder> been bad thankgiving for me, but ouch hand
[15:04:56] <XXCoder> my van decided not to work, it was towed, and when towing the towing truck got hit with car! it apparently also deformed front suspendation
[15:05:07] <_methods> ouch
[15:05:28] <XXCoder> van wasnt directly hit but probably broke it anyway
[15:14:46] <ssi> trying to figure out how to go about getting this sb leveled
[15:18:19] <_methods> only way i know is machinist level and go to town
[15:18:45] <_methods> i guess maybe if you have one of those laser levels or a transit you could do it that way too
[15:19:42] <ssi> I have a machinists level
[15:19:46] <ssi> I mean, how am I gonna shim it :)
[15:20:18] <_methods> ahhh
[15:20:29] <_methods> no levelers on it?
[15:20:53] <_methods> can't you shim between the stand and the lathe?
[15:22:59] <ssi> it has a fine leveler in the right foot, but that's mostly for twist
[15:23:00] <_methods> how many computers does everyone in here have in there garage/workspace? heheh
[15:23:22] <ssi> and I intend to shim between stand and lathe, but I don't really have a good supply of shim stock
[15:23:32] <_methods> coke cans
[15:23:44] <ssi> longitudinally it's taking about 0.041" under the left end of a 10" level
[15:23:53] <ssi> so I'm gonna try to calculate that out to a shim amount across the whole bed
[15:24:47] <ssi> it's 32.5" between the bed bolts
[15:24:48] <_methods> gettin all triggy
[15:25:00] <ssi> so that's liek an eighth
[15:25:15] <ssi> not really triggy... it's 0.0041" per inch out of level
[15:26:10] <ssi> an eighth is kind of a lot
[15:26:13] <ssi> heh
[16:02:19] <XXCoder> heh
[16:02:31] <XXCoder> wonder if anyone here can build engines
[16:07:09] <SpeedEvil> engines are trivial
[16:07:21] <SpeedEvil> evvicient, ligthtweight, compact, reliable arehard
[16:07:22] <XXCoder> I was reading about wankel
[16:07:32] <XXCoder> interesting design too bad it has couple flaws
[16:16:13] <ssi> I can't believe how far I'm having to go to get this thing level
[16:16:46] <XXCoder> fun
[16:16:55] <ssi> having to pick one end of the cabinet up like 1/4"
[16:16:57] <XXCoder> SpeedEvil: ever made a engine?
[16:22:09] <ssi> dang, with 1/4" under the left end of the cabinet, it's almost dead nuts longitudinally
[16:22:57] <SpeedEvil> XXCoder: yes
[16:23:14] <XXCoder> cool
[16:24:37] <Deejay> gn8
[16:25:37] <XXCoder> any pics? kinda curious speed
[16:57:02] <os1r1s> Connor: Did you have success with that xhc pendent?
[16:57:51] <Connor> os1r1s: The new one looks like it's going to work. My machine is in parts, so, I've not got it installed yet.. been playing with it on my simulator.
[16:58:11] <os1r1s> Connor: Would you buy it again? Debating on getting one myself
[16:58:27] <Connor> I can't say till I use it in production. Probably.
[16:58:41] <os1r1s> Connor: So worth the $130 or so
[16:58:47] <Connor> wish it would display 4 digits after decimal point vs 3.
[16:58:56] <Connor> I picked it up for $89.xx
[16:59:01] <os1r1s> Ok
[16:59:50] <Connor> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Wired-USB-Handwheel-MPG-Pendant-For-Mach3-CNC-3-4-Axis-router-machine-/231287974230?ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:1120
[17:01:29] <os1r1s> Connor: Awesome. Thanks
[17:25:20] <cathode> hi
[17:27:47] <cathode> i should pay a little more attention, i think. i just melted a rag onto the tip of a drill bit cause i set the drill down and didn't realize how hot the bit was
[17:32:57] <roycroft> you also shouldn't use plastic rags :)
[17:33:18] <cathode> i thought they were cotton
[17:33:24] <cathode> it surprised me too
[17:36:13] <cathode> i was trying to drill through this material called "paperstone"
[17:36:57] <cathode> it's an extremely dense material sold for use as a countertop surface in kitchens. it's phenolic resin plus recycled paper fiber
[17:37:47] <Swapper> HPL i think its called
[17:37:50] <cathode> i have a 27" x 30" x 1-1/4" piece of it that is difficult to lift
[17:37:51] <cathode> no
[17:37:53] <cathode> it's not laminate
[17:38:01] <cathode> laminate is plastic
[17:38:54] <Swapper> ok
[17:39:32] <cathode> granted, that would be even heavier if it were the same volume
[17:40:10] <zeeshan> is it a bad idea to run 3 vfd wires parallel with 5 servo power wires?
[17:40:14] <zeeshan> along with the tacho signals? :p
[17:40:49] <cathode> zeeshan - i would avoid it if possible
[17:40:50] <Swapper> i do on my mill but its resolvers and shielded cables
[17:41:09] <cathode> use some cat6 (or cat7) for the tach signal wire
[17:41:25] <Swapper> or correction havent run the vfd but i have a servo as spindle and thats cinda the same
[17:41:26] <cathode> it's incredibly cheap and does a great job preventing interference
[17:42:35] <zeeshan> yea its shielded cable for me too
[17:42:36] <Swapper> eya its not for not you can run 10gbit over those cables :)
[17:42:44] <zeeshan> i already have the wires from the motors
[17:43:13] <zeeshan> ill run cat5 for analog signal wire
[17:43:14] <zeeshan> i think
[17:43:16] <Swapper> i havent seen any problems running them in the same cable hose
[17:44:00] <cathode> so, on a different note... what uses threaded bits like this? http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI4NVgxNjAw/z/vzIAAOSwq7JT9jHh/$_57.JPG
[17:44:12] <cathode> is that for specific CNC equipment?
[17:45:17] <Swapper> looks like sandvik or sim
[17:45:31] <Swapper> CoroDrill
[17:45:40] <cathode> http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-8-24-Threaded-Carbide-Blade-100-Countersink-3090-Pilot-3-4-Diameter-/321498370162?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4adacbd072
[17:45:51] <cathode> it just says 3/8-24 threads
[17:46:04] <Swapper> http://www.sandvik.coromant.com/en-gb/products/Pages/productdetails.aspx?c=452.C1-1268-130T-C+CD10&m=6010910
[17:47:14] <cathode> how would you mount that kind of bit in a normal 3-jaw drill press chuck?
[17:47:25] <Swapper> special holder
[17:47:30] <cathode> orly.
[17:53:44] <Swapper> Could it be a Microstop ?
[17:53:48] <Swapper> https://www.google.se/search?q=Microstop&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=wVd6VJfwKOTMygPjsIGADw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=1099#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=IZoy28LDYhKykM%253A%3BxBdoADHt7UpxsM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.northerntool.com%252Fimages%252Fproduct%252F2000x2000%252F301%252F301113_2000x2000.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.northerntool.com%252Fshop%252Ftools%252Fproduct_200451725_200451725%3B2000%3B2000
[17:53:54] <Swapper> https://www.google.se/search?q=Microstop&oq=Microstop&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.279j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
[17:56:49] <cathode> ah yeah
[17:57:01] <cathode> i think you're right
[17:57:42] <cathode> that looks like a highly useful thing to have
[17:59:07] <cathode> http://volvospeed.com/~volvo/Mods/countersinking_guide.html
[18:01:09] <Swapper> some neat cuntersunk bolts there
[18:01:15] <Swapper> hex on the bottom
[18:02:28] <cathode> yeah that's pretty fancy
[18:03:01] <cathode> the only other way you could do that would be to form a hexagonal counterbore instead of a normal countersink
[18:03:12] <cathode> or a square counterbore for a square-headed bolt
[18:04:35] <Swapper> yea, in cnc thats doable but i guess theres not that many rectangular countersinks (even tough you can make square holes)
[18:07:16] <Swapper> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-ATI-Microstop-Countersink-Cage-LFD-9X-/321598068049?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae0bd1551
[18:16:52] <ssi> haha check this out
[18:16:53] <ssi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb4HcjZYCNo
[18:17:03] <ssi> this thing doesn't even move the needle on a .0001" dti
[18:17:37] <Swapper> hehe
[18:19:19] <ssi> cleaning up one of the buck set-tru 6 jaws now
[18:19:43] <ssi> pulled the backplate off and the spigot doesn't run anything like true
[18:19:46] <archivist> ssi now run up the taper with the taper turning, mine seems really good
[18:19:55] <ssi> archivist: I'll try that
[18:20:36] <archivist> I made an ISO taper on mine fitted well
[18:21:29] <ssi> runs dead nuts all the way up the taper
[18:28:27] <ssi> so I guess I'm gonna true up this backplate to the machine
[18:28:33] <ssi> any reason I shouldn't?
[18:28:42] <ssi> the spigot is supposed to be smaller t han the counterbore on set-tru chucks anyway
[18:57:25] <ssi> cool
[18:57:30] <ssi> got a test bar to run sub-tenth in that chuck
[18:57:33] <ssi> this is gonna be a good lathe :D
[19:02:32] <zeeshan> nice
[19:03:20] <zeeshan> ssi i was gonna yell at you
[19:03:23] <zeeshan> but then i saw its a shars indicator
[19:03:24] <zeeshan> :p
[19:03:40] <zeeshan> i abuse mine like that too :D
[19:05:14] <ssi> heheh
[19:05:24] <ssi> I don't have any nice tenths indicators
[19:06:01] <ssi> I wonder how repeatable this chuck is
[19:06:08] <cathode> i have a strange boner right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdCRCcwDeKQ#t=32
[19:06:10] <cathode> (SFW)
[19:06:12] <ssi> it's running sub-tenth at the moment, gonna pull the bar out and rechuck it
[19:07:31] <ssi> k after rechucking, runs 0.0005"
[19:07:33] <ssi> I'll take it :D
[19:07:37] <zeeshan> good enough
[19:07:50] <ssi> cathode: lawd
[19:07:58] <zeeshan> i cant even follow the machine
[19:08:01] <zeeshan> that cathode posted
[19:08:04] <zeeshan> too much shit going on
[19:08:06] <zeeshan> :D
[19:08:13] <cathode> i'm like O___O
[19:08:15] <ssi> yes it has a distinct lack of sanity
[19:09:10] <cathode> when the rotary turret thing caught the part after it was cut off from the lathe i was like "dafuq?"
[19:09:16] <zeeshan> ssi help me decide
[19:09:25] <zeeshan> i basically hhave this:
[19:09:26] <zeeshan> https://www.flickr.com/photos/128539016@N05/15289716823/
[19:09:27] <ssi> redhead
[19:09:29] <cathode> then i realized that it must have matched it's speed to the speed of the lathe
[19:09:41] <zeeshan> im trying to figure out how the fak to bring wires to and from the boxes
[19:09:42] <zeeshan> to the devices
[19:09:52] <zeeshan> like glass scales, monitor, motors, servos
[19:09:53] <zeeshan> tachos
[19:09:55] <zeeshan> etc
[19:09:58] <zeeshan> primary wire too
[19:10:05] <zeeshan> just drill a hole and use this shit:
[19:10:08] <ssi> flex conduit?
[19:10:14] <ssi> the watertight stuff
[19:10:24] <zeeshan> hm
[19:10:34] * Jymmm now buys his drugs from the pet store... faster than from Canada =)
[19:11:11] <cathode> yeah the LiquidTite stuff you can get at home depot is decent. it's really durable and if you use a hairdryer to warm it up a tad, it's easy to flex
[19:11:18] <zeeshan> the thing is
[19:11:26] <zeeshan> i already have connectors coming from the servos
[19:11:31] <zeeshan> like the wires coming already have these connectors..
[19:11:37] * _methods buys his drugs from the dude on the corner
[19:11:47] <_methods> cause they're good
[19:11:59] <zeeshan> theyre a weird connector i ahvent seen before
[19:12:02] <zeeshan> its rectangular
[19:12:06] <Jymmm> _methods: These are sealed and have an EXP date. works for me
[19:12:13] <_methods> hahah
[19:12:23] <Jymmm> _methods: BTW, I'm NOT kidding
[19:12:43] <_methods> mine were made by some dude with no teeth in a bathtub in a trailer park
[19:12:50] <Jymmm> _methods: Amoxicillin 250mg
[19:12:59] <_methods> yeah
[19:13:01] <_methods> cheaper too
[19:13:15] <_methods> pills? or injectable
[19:13:16] <Jymmm> Eh, cheaper on ebay by half, but I needed tham NOW!
[19:13:26] <Jymmm> 30 caplets for $20
[19:13:33] <Jymmm> err capsules
[19:13:35] <_methods> nice
[19:13:45] <Jymmm> ebay is $10 with free shipping
[19:14:15] <Jymmm> toothache + swollen + funky smell = infection
[19:14:28] <Jymmm> I dont fuck around with infections.
[19:14:32] <_methods> yeah that's bad
[19:14:40] <_methods> especially there lol
[19:14:59] <_methods> when i did my ICU rotations there was a guy in there who had 6 chest tubes
[19:15:06] <_methods> he came in with a tooth infection
[19:15:18] <_methods> infection spread to his media steinum
[19:15:23] <_methods> to his chest cavity
[19:15:32] <_methods> and 6 months later
[19:15:45] <Jymmm> Yeah, ppl dont realize how sever an infection can be
[19:16:11] <_methods> yea man it will kill ya quick
[19:16:23] <Jymmm> And this shit always happens on a 5day holiday weekend
[19:16:30] <Jymmm> 4day
[19:16:47] <cathode> here's more cnc porn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqePrbeAQoM
[19:16:59] <Jymmm> I figure 500mg BID should "help"
[19:17:23] <_methods> i'd try to use keflex for tooth
[19:17:28] <_methods> but if all you can get is mox
[19:17:29] <_methods> do it
[19:17:45] <Jymmm> Mox on penicillian, but I prefer mox
[19:17:59] <Jymmm> broad spectrum
[19:18:13] <_methods> well keflex (cephalexin) has better action in extremities
[19:18:29] <_methods> facial, hand, feet
[19:18:41] <cradek> http://softsolder.com/2014/11/29/windows-driver-update-root-canal-edition/
[19:18:41] <Jymmm> _methods: Well, this is what I know I could get, today. I don't kow other things
[19:18:50] <_methods> yeah
[19:18:59] <_methods> amoxicillin should work ok there
[19:19:11] <Jymmm> cradek: lol
[19:19:36] <Jymmm> _methods: Yeah, plus I'm ordering a bottle too
[19:19:38] <_methods> cnc root canal
[19:19:53] <_methods> it's in 2.7
[19:21:03] <Jymmm> _methods: I'll try to see a DDS this week,then I have to explain how I'm already on antibotics.... "Don't ask questions you dont want the answer to"
[19:21:32] <_methods> yeah just make sure you tell him/her
[19:21:59] <Jymmm> _methods: Oh I will for sure (I know better than not to discluse such things)
[19:22:03] <_methods> they don't care if you get shit they just need to know so they don't give you something that will react with it
[19:22:47] <Jymmm> Heh, I'll tell em I found a bottle in the street =)
[19:22:53] <Jymmm> guter
[19:23:06] <_methods> they hear it all the time people don't take all their shit like idiots
[19:23:10] <_methods> so they can make super bugs
[19:23:35] <_methods> oh i'll save half of it in case i get sick again
[19:23:42] <_methods> thnx asshole
[19:24:00] <Jymmm> Well, I know better than to abuse antibiotics, thus I waited till the "warmth" and scent appeared.
[19:24:35] <Jymmm> but not till it "ranked"
[19:24:51] <Jymmm> as is killed the dead =)
[19:25:09] <_methods> yeah if it's hot/warm and you can smell something lol you might want to do something
[19:25:25] <_methods> but dentists only work like 2 days a week
[19:25:38] <Jymmm> Exactly. I learn infection signs long ago
[19:25:54] <Jymmm> It's a broken tooth, I just need it ripped out, then I'll be good.
[19:26:06] <_methods> yeah that sux
[19:26:15] <Jymmm> So pre-op antibiotics is a good thing anyway
[19:26:30] <_methods> that's what they're going to do to you anyways
[19:26:41] <Jymmm> staph infections kill.
[19:26:54] <Jymmm> Yep, and no need to wait =)
[19:27:06] <jdh> vise-grips?
[19:27:09] <_methods> if the infection is bad the anesthetic won't work so they like to make sure the infection is gone before they do anything
[19:27:22] <_methods> or it will have a harder time working
[19:27:31] <Jymmm> Well, it won't be gone, but it should be reduced at least.
[19:28:07] <Jymmm> It got "warm" last night.
[19:28:17] <Jymmm> but swollen for 2 days
[19:28:46] <Jymmm> I have been popping 800mg advil like candy though
[19:29:01] <Jymmm> 2400mg/day
[19:29:19] <Jymmm> YAY LIVER/KIDNEYS-BE-GONE
[19:30:09] <Jymmm> I just refuse to take vicoden unless I REALLY REALLY have to.
[19:30:28] <jdh> hard to get now.
[19:30:39] <jdh> just get heroin, cheaper and easier.
[19:30:58] <Jymmm> Not really, just hate the mental effects it gives
[19:31:27] <Jymmm> How ppl get high on the shit I'll never know.
[19:32:13] <XXCoder> probably addicted to painless body
[19:32:17] <jdh> yeah... I don't like it either.
[19:32:52] <Jymmm> XXCoder: it's more than that. It does get you "high", but I hate the feeling you get from vicoden.
[19:33:05] <Jymmm> Now Demeral... YES PLEASE!
[19:33:10] <XXCoder> lol
[19:33:21] <Jymmm> No pain for a week!
[19:33:47] <Jymmm> good stuff, and only need liek 10mg
[19:34:38] <Jymmm> 40mg if you like had your hand chopped off =)
[19:35:45] <Jymmm> _methods: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fish-Mox-Amoxicillin-250mg-30-capsules-/131343350756?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e94ac7be4
[19:36:43] <_methods> no kidding
[19:37:26] <_methods> damn even the fish are taking antibiotics
[19:38:39] <Jymmm> lol
[19:40:43] <Jymmm> I really wish the US was like Mexico, you need something talk to the pharasist and you can get it. No need for a doctor.
[19:41:06] <Jymmm> and it's LITERALY the same meds that you get fom the SU
[19:41:08] <Jymmm> US
[19:55:03] <CaptHindsight> same for the aquatic fish meds, same stuff but different package and label
[19:55:18] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: and cheaper too
[19:55:33] <_methods> you have to take it with water
[19:56:04] <_methods> under water
[19:56:31] <Jymmm> lol, I'll do that and "blurp blurb blurb while I'm at it too =)
[19:56:34] <CaptHindsight> "Take 1 pill with water underwater in the am"
[19:56:40] <_methods> hahahha
[20:04:31] <CaptHindsight> http://openlunchbox.com/ Open Hardware Laptop Project
[20:04:55] <XXCoder> what the flip wrong with web designers??
[20:05:03] <XXCoder> its almost white text on white backhground!!
[20:05:28] <Jymmm> I will say this much though, if you know your meds, best ot have that in stock BEFORE you might need it.
[20:05:46] <Jymmm> This shit always happens to me on 4 day weekends. never fails.
[20:06:07] <Jymmm> I was jsut lucky to find a place open on saturday and in stock.
[20:08:27] <Jymmm> one place was actually out of stock.
[20:09:12] <Jymmm> And I slacked off ordering it like a month ago too.
[20:12:57] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: they didn't want to waste screen ink
[20:17:59] * Tom_itx wonders if Jymmm sounds like 'Mr ED'
[20:18:12] <Jymmm> Helllllllo Wilber
[20:18:37] <CaptHindsight> of course of course
[20:20:50] <Jymmm> I guess that woud make me a Seahorse.
[20:28:24] <Tom_itx> anybody know the steprate limit on a parallel port off hand?
[20:33:10] <jdh> whateve you can do in 2x base periods
[20:34:37] <zeeshan> man im having trouble figuring out how to route wires in and out of the cnc cabinet
[20:35:03] <jdh> BT-LE for all devices!
[20:35:55] <zeeshan> basically i have: 3/0 main power wire. monitor, keyboard, mouse, wireless adapter wires. 24vdc to solenoids wires. wires from and to the interpolators and spindle encoder and limit switches. then wires to x,y,z,a,c axis including the tachometer wires. lastly the motor wires (hydraulic pump, coolant pump, spindle)
[20:36:03] <zeeshan> i really dont know how to handle it all.
[20:36:09] <zeeshan> without making it look like ass
[20:36:48] <jdh> wireless adapter wires?
[20:36:58] <zeeshan> yea its a usb wireless adapter
[20:37:02] <zeeshan> that i gotta mount outside the box
[20:37:04] <zeeshan> for the antenna
[20:37:15] <zeeshan> the onboard wireless cards cause too much jitter
[20:37:23] <zeeshan> for some reason the usb one doesnt
[20:37:43] <renesis> prob because youre doing usb shit anyway
[20:38:05] <zeeshan> so any ideas on wire routing?
[20:38:22] <zeeshan> can i route all the tacho, servo power vfd wires as one bundlke
[20:38:34] <zeeshan> the servo wires and tacho wires are shielded
[20:38:46] <zeeshan> the factory cnc routed the servo and tacho wires together
[20:39:09] <zeeshan> im thinking the solenoid wire (24vdc) should be away from the limit switch wires..
[20:39:18] <zeeshan> maybe not..
[20:39:49] <zeeshan> whats the best way to route the monitor, keyboard mouse wires?
[20:40:00] <renesis> away from everything else
[20:40:15] <renesis> keep them together
[20:40:16] <zeeshan> http://www.lulusoso.com/upimg/smallimg/20110908/1315547397_thumb.jpg
[20:40:20] <zeeshan> i was using this style of connector
[20:40:25] <zeeshan> in the lathe box
[20:40:33] <zeeshan> only thing is its really not that dust proof :P
[20:40:35] <renesis> thats a connector?
[20:40:43] <jdh> conduit adapter
[20:40:44] <renesis> thats like a bulkhead portal
[20:40:46] <zeeshan> its a strain relief
[20:40:49] <zeeshan> for conduit
[20:40:52] <zeeshan> or wire
[20:41:06] <zeeshan> im trying to find a better pic
[20:41:07] <zeeshan> here we go
[20:41:12] <renesis> i would take all the shielded signal shit, put it into some corrugated plastic loom
[20:41:37] <zeeshan> yes but how does that loom connect
[20:41:38] <zeeshan> to the cnc
[20:41:40] <renesis> power shit, twist with its return, keep somewhat loose
[20:41:40] <zeeshan> cabinet..
[20:41:54] <renesis> speak any english?
[20:42:04] <jdh> eh?
[20:42:06] <renesis> i would use big rubber grommet
[20:42:19] <zeeshan> a rubber grommet isnt gonna provide strain relief
[20:42:24] <renesis> sorry im illiterate and read what he typed wrong
[20:42:42] <renesis> you thing is strain relief?
[20:42:47] <renesis> with a big screw?
[20:42:56] <zeeshan> i cant find the proper pic.
[20:42:57] <renesis> looks worse than a switchcraft XLR
[20:42:59] <zeeshan> but it looks like this:
[20:43:04] <zeeshan> http://www.orbitelectric.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1200x1200/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/e/m/emt_to_flex_coup_set-clamp.jpg
[20:43:06] <zeeshan> it strain reliefs.
[20:43:09] <renesis> so the cable is in a big loom
[20:43:17] <renesis> sttach that to shit with some cable loops
[20:43:29] <renesis> zip ties if you must
[20:43:33] <renesis> dont zip ties cables
[20:43:48] <renesis> but ziptie the plastic loom stuff is cool
[20:44:52] <renesis> zeeshan: i wouldnt use that for anything except huge 2-4 lead cables with lots of fill and heavy outer insulation
[20:45:06] <zeeshan> most of my cables
[20:45:10] <zeeshan> have a thick pvc jacket
[20:45:12] <zeeshan> from factory cnc
[20:45:26] <renesis> right dont clamp that shit its 100 years old
[20:45:32] <renesis> its some dinosaur cable
[20:46:03] <zeeshan> https://www.flickr.com/photos/128539016@N05/15540544082/
[20:46:08] <zeeshan> you can kinda see the factory plastic conduit
[20:46:28] <zeeshan> maybe i should just reuse it
[20:46:29] <zeeshan> :P
[20:46:36] <zeeshan> i have the connectors for it too
[20:46:41] <renesis> they make strain relief clamps that kind of fold over and pop into place
[20:46:50] <zeeshan> they had a bar inside the cabinet
[20:46:56] <zeeshan> where all the wires were tied to
[20:46:57] <renesis> but if thickness and cutout arent perfect they dont work awesome
[20:46:58] <zeeshan> for strain relief
[20:47:02] <jdh> what's the shiny metal thing sticking out of the front of the spindle?
[20:47:20] <zeeshan> work light
[20:47:32] <jdh> round thing
[20:47:36] <zeeshan> oh
[20:47:39] <zeeshan> to move quill up and down
[20:47:49] <zeeshan> theres supposed to be a handwheel that goes there
[20:48:02] <zeeshan> http://www.innovac.de/images/96721.jpg
[20:48:20] <zeeshan> so the main question is
[20:48:30] <zeeshan> is it a bad idea to route vfd wires and servo wires together
[20:48:43] <zeeshan> servo wires are shielded
[20:48:46] <zeeshan> so is tacho wires.
[20:48:49] <zeeshan> but vfd wires arent.
[20:57:17] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: lol
[23:05:10] * likevinyl is away: keep calm and stop "i'm a hacker"
[23:35:13] <t12_> finally done dro-ing sieg sx3
[23:35:18] <t12_> that really took a while