#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-09-21

[01:13:44] <PetefromTn_> Connor Ya there man>?
[02:21:01] <Deejay> moin
[04:06:18] <archivist> can anyone translate биение торцев фрезы
[04:07:44] <archivist> a dimension or tolerance for a gear cutting hob item 2 on http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/data/hob/index.html
[04:08:25] <archivist> mostly translated with google translate from assumed russian
[04:08:38] <kengu> yeah, googletranslate says "palpation of center"
[04:08:58] <LeelooMinai> I think middle word has something to do with "socket" and the last one with cutting
[04:12:59] <archivist> it is odd that the data sheet nor hob has the lead angle stated (machine setter needs that info)
[04:14:30] <LeelooMinai> Weirdly the first two words seem to designate heart beat:)
[04:18:26] <archivist> I need to iron the paper it is written on, it was folded up and stuffed in the hobs plastic container around the hob
[04:20:21] <LeelooMinai> The last one is end mill bit I think
[04:24:41] <archivist> it may be the run out of the end faces
[04:24:50] <LeelooMinai> Maybe they mean how much of center the end mill is
[04:25:07] <LeelooMinai> off*
[04:25:15] <archivist> it is not an endmill
[04:25:23] <LeelooMinai> well, "cutter"
[04:25:27] <LeelooMinai> Whatever it is
[04:25:38] <LeelooMinai> Some cutting bit?
[04:27:09] <archivist> it may be axial run out of cutting edges
[04:27:21] <LeelooMinai> Since the first word is related to beat (like in heart beat), which is in some languages used to describe how something that rotates is aout of axis.
[04:27:37] <LeelooMinai> Yes, probably
[04:28:26] <archivist> did you look at http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/data/hob/index.html 3 is radial so 2 is likely axial
[04:28:54] <LeelooMinai> Right
[04:29:42] <archivist> refresh I updated it
[04:30:32] <LeelooMinai> But between 2 and 3 there is different wording for "cutting edges"
[04:31:26] <LeelooMinai> I think in 2 it's the whole bit runout
[04:34:45] <archivist> it is the cutter on the machine http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2014/2014_09_17_Barber_Colman_cnc/IMG_1830.JPG
[04:35:56] <archivist> I am about to use it for the first time (both machine and cutter)
[06:30:32] <varesa> does anyone here use the machinekit/linuxcnc thing for BBB?
[06:33:04] <varesa> I'm wondering if it's actually any good
[06:33:58] <varesa> I'd love to fit the computer inside my mill and just leave a ethernet port. Would be much cheaper that building some ITX system
[07:24:33] <SpeedEvil> Consider what happens in 5 years when it dies.
[07:24:36] <SpeedEvil> Can you get a bbb?
[07:24:58] <Jymmm> ebay =)
[07:29:37] <syyl> and back with making realy small crap :D
[07:29:38] <syyl> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24396704/Redux/pro_redux_21.JPG
[07:30:13] <Jymmm> what is it?
[07:30:27] <syyl> the magazine catch for a pretty small m1911 ;)
[07:30:29] <archivist> itty bitty bits
[07:30:53] <Jymmm> and does the one on the left have two parts that twist?
[07:31:14] <syyl> not yet
[07:31:31] <Jymmm> OH, it looks like it does.
[07:31:40] <Jymmm> syyl: all cnc?
[07:31:49] <syyl> almost all on manual machines
[07:31:50] <syyl> :)
[07:31:57] <Jymmm> very cool =)
[07:32:04] <syyl> manual lathe, mill and pantograph mill
[07:32:15] <syyl> didnt use the cnc :D
[07:32:25] <Jymmm> Hey, whateverb works
[07:32:27] <syyl> just because...i can :D
[07:34:21] <Jymmm> Hmmm, I bugs zapped a moth, and 5m later it started twitching alive. Of course, this is just after I get done watch a japanese horror film with ghosts and vampires.
[07:34:36] <Jymmm> Good movie btw
[07:34:43] <syyl> zombiemoths
[07:34:51] <syyl> be aware
[07:35:03] <syyl> get your personal pocketflamethrower out
[07:35:21] <Jymmm> Oh no, this was MUCH better than that.
[07:35:26] <Jymmm> Rigor Mortis (2013)
[07:35:50] <Jymmm> up on netflix
[07:36:15] <syyl> im not very much in japanese movies
[07:36:25] <Jymmm> Very well written, acted, and FX
[07:36:32] <syyl> to arkward for me ;)
[07:37:12] <Jymmm> well, subtitles is the hardest thing, Written in a western culture sorta way so not bad at all
[07:37:24] <syyl> hmm
[07:37:27] <syyl> just googled
[07:37:47] <syyl> i was even released in german
[07:39:12] <Jymmm> No dull moments, done very well.
[07:39:35] * archivist hopes syyl used a hand rest and graver for the hand turning
[07:39:42] <syyl> naa :D
[07:39:52] <syyl> used my "big" 9x20 lathe
[07:41:07] <archivist> I am getting back into the hand turning on the lorch 65mm size
[07:41:21] <syyl> i want a small watchmakers lathe
[07:41:30] <syyl> but they are horrible expensive
[07:41:55] <syyl> schaublin 70 or something it that range
[07:42:15] <archivist> a few years back they were worth about £150 to 250, seen silly 850 on fleabay
[07:42:41] <archivist> schaublin 70 is clockmakers size
[07:42:58] <syyl> i would pay 800 if theres enough collets and other parts
[07:43:19] <archivist> seen one at 3000 pounds at a dealers
[07:43:20] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkA4T6MFL6I
[07:43:40] <syyl> i would marry it :D
[07:43:59] <Jymmm> schaublin 70 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkA4T6MFL6I
[07:44:56] <Jymmm> syyl: This miniture you're making, is it operational?
[07:45:04] <syyl> i hope so ;)
[07:45:16] <syyl> im using the redux drawings
[07:45:19] <Jymmm> syyl: You're making ammo for it too?
[07:45:23] <syyl> nope
[07:45:27] <syyl> that would get me raped
[07:45:54] <Jymmm> syyl: Well, if you're going to marry a lathe, it'll be the only sex you'll get, so... eh
[07:45:59] <syyl> i think i would have to jamm a piece of carbide into the barrell
[07:46:04] <syyl> to block it
[07:46:12] <Jymmm> why?
[07:46:30] <Jymmm> is it to scale?
[07:46:34] <syyl> yeah
[07:46:38] <Jymmm> oh
[07:46:39] <syyl> 3 times smaller
[07:46:59] <Jymmm> then you have nothing to worry about unless it takes like .22 ammo
[07:47:23] <archivist> we have real gun laws in the eu
[07:47:25] <syyl> i will not talke chances with german law on weapons ;)
[07:47:32] <syyl> *take
[07:47:52] <Jymmm> archivist: go carry a 1" pocket knife =)
[07:48:19] <syyl> http://m1911a1redux.com/
[07:48:25] <syyl> he got pretty good drawings
[07:48:27] <archivist> we have funny knife laws too
[07:48:54] <syyl> in germany you are not allowed to carry a onehanded, locking knife...
[07:49:12] <Jymmm> Tucked up laws, period. goto jail for a pocket knife with MADITORY sentancing. that's just fucke dup
[07:49:22] <Jymmm> Fucked*
[07:49:29] <syyl> even my leatherman wave is greyzone..
[07:49:46] <Jymmm> syyl: I'd be so fucked
[07:49:55] <syyl> but it counts more as a tool than a knive
[07:49:59] <syyl> so i dont bother
[07:50:19] <Jymmm> I always carry a Tool Logic SL3
[07:50:44] <Jymmm> two Waves
[07:50:48] <syyl> it looks strange bulky Oo
[07:50:57] <Jymmm> the SL3?
[07:50:58] <syyl> but i would never ditch my wave
[07:50:59] <archivist> must not carry a knife in public, technically covers a kitchen knife from the shops to home
[07:51:00] <syyl> yeah
[07:51:22] <Jymmm> syyl: Ah, it has a fire starter and a whistle in it
[07:51:49] <syyl> i have a firestarter somewhere in my backpack
[07:52:14] <Jymmm> I hae one in my pocket at all times =)
[07:52:45] <syyl> :)
[07:52:54] <syyl> i thing i used mine
[07:52:55] <syyl> hmm
[07:52:57] <syyl> once?
[07:53:00] <syyl> to start a bbq
[07:53:05] <syyl> for fun
[07:53:22] <syyl> if i realy needed a fire i used a lighter ;)
[07:53:32] <Jymmm> I saw an episode of "I shouldn't be alive" which are reenactments of real events. Once scared the crap out of me because I had been in that situation a couple years before hand.
[07:53:57] <Jymmm> Well, the thing is a lighter doesn't work in al weather
[07:54:03] <syyl> jip
[07:54:16] <syyl> i can still short out the battery of my phone
[07:54:18] <Jymmm> a firesteel will
[07:54:26] <syyl> or those in my flashlight
[07:54:29] <syyl> of the carbatterie
[07:54:30] <syyl> :D
[07:54:31] <Jymmm> if it's not dead you calling for help =)
[07:54:47] <syyl> you have never service when you need help ;)
[07:55:13] <syyl> in my mind you need many options
[07:55:23] <Jymmm> This was on the way to Reno driving over Sierra Nevadas un July with SNOW on the ground!!!
[07:55:34] <Jymmm> Snow, in july?! WTF
[07:55:37] <syyl> Oo
[07:55:43] <syyl> global warming!
[07:55:46] <syyl> uhm...
[07:55:56] <Jymmm> No cell coverage either
[07:56:21] <Jymmm> Did have access to local repeater, so no worries.
[07:57:09] <Jymmm> And didn't see a car for hours at a time either.
[07:57:26] <gonzo_nb> not sure I'd want to shoirt out lipo's, unless it was in despeartion
[07:57:43] <syyl> puncture it
[07:57:52] <syyl> gives a nive instant-fire
[07:57:53] <syyl> ;)
[07:58:24] <gonzo_nb> I've been saved by a firesteel a few times
[07:58:45] <gonzo_nb> well, saved from mising out on a cup of tea anyway
[07:58:54] <syyl> :D
[07:59:11] <gonzo_nb> when lighters have failed in the wet
[07:59:45] <Jymmm> http://www.animalplanet.com/tv-shows/i-shouldnt-be-alive/videos/i-shouldnt-be-alive.htm
[07:59:53] <Jymmm> "Lost in the snow"
[08:00:08] <Jymmm> THAT is why I carry a firestarter!!!
[08:00:37] <syyl> and its a basic skill
[08:00:38] <gonzo_nb> Over here, you have to be really trying to find any wildeerness
[08:00:51] <syyl> men has to be able to make fire - period
[08:02:17] <gonzo_nb> I'm still trying to master the bow drill
[08:02:22] <Jymmm> That is all they need, just fire. They could of had water, heat, and a way to signal for help.
[08:02:34] <Jymmm> needed*
[08:02:36] <gonzo_nb> though it's mainly down to selection of materials
[08:02:58] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: But, can you di it in the rain/wat materials is the thing
[08:03:46] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: I tried using a drill with dry meterial, NOT EASY
[08:04:19] <syyl> try it with a drillpress and a dowel for beginners
[08:04:27] <syyl> even then its a bit
[08:04:28] <syyl> hmm
[08:04:32] <syyl> "not so easy"
[08:04:37] <Jymmm> syyl: I know =)
[08:05:09] <Jymmm> Also, funny thing, alcohol pads SUCK as tinder
[08:05:29] <gonzo_nb> managed to get an ember without the bow, but took three of us in relay. and a hand full of blisters
[08:05:35] <syyl> shoe polish!
[08:05:39] <syyl> old indians trick
[08:05:52] <syyl> makes everything pretty flamable
[08:06:31] <Jymmm> I make my own tinder now, I can drop it in water for an hours, pull it out and light on the first spark.
[08:08:34] <Jymmm> It's funny, you watch all the videos about char cloth and the like. Yeah fuckers, drop that in water and tell me how it takes a spark easily =)
[08:09:02] <gonzo_nb> what do you use for it?
[08:09:32] <Jymmm> Oh and the "wet fire" cubes.... Yeah, that crap thin plastic packaging gets a hole in it, and the cube is no good in less than 90 days.
[08:10:11] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: Many time you can find "something" for fuel, but not sprakable tinder.
[08:10:27] <gonzo_nb> I was at a bushcraft show last month, I succumb to gadgets and brought a fire piston
[08:10:31] <Jymmm> or waterproof tinder
[08:10:50] <gonzo_nb> what
[08:10:50] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: Yeah, those are nice, but still need tinder
[08:11:16] <gonzo_nb> whats your tinder that work after wetting?
[08:11:40] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: jute twin and a special wax blend.
[08:13:43] <Jymmm> It's a bit tendious in making it, but it'll last 50+ years
[08:14:35] <Jymmm> Not sure if left out in the sun or anything like that.
[08:16:12] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: I thought about doing a freeze test, but it's easy enough to warm up in a chest pocket.
[08:16:59] <gonzo_nb> birch bark is prob not too far off. the high resin content would prob help keep the water out. but not tried in anger
[08:17:49] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: I just wanted something that ignited on the first spark in good conditions. I achieved my goal =)
[08:18:31] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: Yeah, I saw somethng the other day wirh birch bark and it didn't work adter a heavy rain, even when crushing the fibers.
[08:19:57] <gonzo_nb> must admit, all my experiments have just been playing. Not used in anger
[08:20:49] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: Heh, I even cheated d0ing primative fire by using a tinder tube and cotton rope as the amber. Is STILL was hard blwing that into a flame.
[08:21:53] <Jymmm> btw char rope works MUCh better that char cloth =)
[08:22:31] <gonzo_nb> though melted nylon poss is not ideal!
[08:22:51] <Jymmm> cotton rope =)
[08:23:27] <Jymmm> and hard to source/or is pricy these days
[08:24:20] <Jymmm> Getting ready to order another one of these... LOVE EM... https://www.dx.com/p/ultra-mini-portable-outdoor-metal-gas-stove-with-a-case-2-ag3-52063
[08:24:37] <syyl> hmm
[08:24:49] <syyl> iam a fan of liquid fuel
[08:25:46] <Jymmm> that burner plus this stand http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ARB8QRQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[08:25:52] <syyl> have the burner set of the norwegian army
[08:26:32] <Jymmm> and a 12oz can or butane work great
[08:26:38] <Jymmm> s/or/of/
[08:26:54] <Jymmm> and cheap too
[08:27:09] <Jymmm> $1.25 for 12oz of butane
[08:27:24] <Jymmm> $15 for 4oz of the special blend fuel
[08:28:59] <Jymmm> $15 for that fuel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjMIBG6SXNA
[08:29:32] <syyl> and i keep this in my car :D
[08:29:32] <syyl> http://www.outdoorfan.de/products/Outdoor-Kueche/Kocher/BW-Esbit-Kocher-mit-Brennstoff-NEU.html?refID=GOOGLE_RSS_FEED_REFID&gclid=Cj0KEQjw7vmgBRDdnLPZp7aBlroBEiQA7_NmVxjnIpO0XKitcgXrtqaB3AaUaYsJXpZXiM6y7N1sSnwaAvIj8P8HAQ
[08:29:33] <Jymmm> that tripod from amazon let you use simple butane cans
[08:29:46] <syyl> its a solid fule
[08:29:49] <syyl> *fuel
[08:30:12] <Jymmm> Yeah, I have those too. It needs a wind shield and a grate
[08:30:36] <Jymmm> and is slow to boil 2cups of water
[08:30:45] <syyl> yeah
[08:30:50] <syyl> its not the fastest way
[08:30:54] <syyl> but reliable
[08:31:04] <syyl> with zero maintainance
[08:31:04] <Jymmm> well, you need two tablets to do it.
[08:31:23] <Jymmm> Uh, wanna bet? Drop the furl tabs in water for an hour =)
[08:31:31] <syyl> ;)
[08:31:48] <Jymmm> i have soem on my desk right now in fact =)
[08:31:52] <syyl> http://youtu.be/TnMMlpFMJVw
[08:32:04] <syyl> and thats the swedish alkohol stove
[08:32:17] <syyl> i like it for normal camping and festivals
[08:32:50] <Jymmm> Yeah, the problem with those is either you have to burn up all your fuel as you can't put it out, or you under do it.
[08:33:13] <Jymmm> syyl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I2LK6D9AY8
[08:33:15] <syyl> you can extinguish it with a topside down tan
[08:33:17] <syyl> *can
[08:33:27] <Jymmm> syyl: and you waste all your fuel
[08:34:07] <syyl> again right :D
[08:34:09] <syyl> hm
[08:34:09] <Jymmm> I like the esbit burner, if comes with a simmer ring, and hold 2.5oz of fuel
[08:34:29] <syyl> that esbit stove in your video looks nice
[08:34:37] <Jymmm> and the little wire handle is perfect for puting out the fire without gloves or gettign burned
[08:34:41] <syyl> bit more advanced
[08:35:06] <Jymmm> I just use denatured alcohol in it
[08:35:24] <syyl> ah cool
[08:35:29] <syyl> it runs also on booze
[08:35:38] <syyl> neat!
[08:35:40] <Jymmm> but screw tight lide to store your fuel in it
[08:36:18] <syyl> i might get one of those
[08:36:25] <Jymmm> hang on
[08:37:10] <Jymmm> syyl: GREAT little pot stand included https://www.dx.com/p/locs-portable-camping-alcohol-stove-spirit-burner-black-golden-256330
[08:37:31] <syyl> cute :D
[08:37:37] <Jymmm> syyl: and nests inside for easy storage
[08:38:25] <Jymmm> syyl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6waCQ0GCxs
[08:39:56] <Jymmm> syyl: but carry a piece of wire cloth for a better grate =)
[08:40:38] <Jymmm> 13M?! wth, I can boil 2c of water in 6m50s
[08:40:52] <Jymmm> they must be using rubbing alcohol
[08:42:43] <Jymmm> syyl: I just saw so many videos where it looked dangerous, top heavy, etc. I wanted somethign better=)
[08:43:08] <Jymmm> or unreliable in many cases.
[08:43:18] * Tom_itx thinks Jymmm lives in a survival hut
[08:43:38] <syyl> ;)
[08:43:46] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Hut?! That would be a luxury =)
[08:43:57] <syyl> earthhole?
[08:44:17] <Jymmm> look st this dumbass using a GLASS jar for a burner... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4REomvDj3U
[08:44:34] <syyl> you can do that
[08:44:41] <syyl> is it recommended?
[08:44:42] <syyl> hmm.
[08:44:43] <Jymmm> if a drop of water hit that jar....
[08:45:14] <Jymmm> you now have shattering flamming glass aiming for your face!
[08:45:33] <Tom_itx> not your favorite way to go out?
[08:45:49] <Jymmm> No thanks. These people just dont think
[08:46:17] <Jymmm> Then there are the other dumbasses "Hey, Let me try that"
[08:46:20] <Jymmm> *sigh*
[08:46:48] <Jymmm> "I have a can of water to put it out" Uh huh...
[08:46:59] <syyl> another darwin award ;)
[08:47:04] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Nah, I'm just a pyro is all =)
[08:47:19] <Jymmm> syyl: I wish, but they kee coming back
[08:47:54] <Jymmm> Anyhow, that tripod and burner ar ehte best combination I've found so far.
[08:48:12] <Jymmm> Even has a piezo starter built in
[08:48:45] <Jymmm> when you add the can of butane, it's really solid too
[08:48:54] <Jymmm> err stable.
[08:50:12] <Jymmm> As a matter of fact, I'm head ing to the flea market today to get more cans of fuel. Super cheap.
[08:50:36] <Jymmm> 4x 12oz cans for $5
[08:51:38] <Jymmm> and the same butane cans fit this too http://www.webstaurantstore.com/portable-gas-stove-butane-burner-with-1-range/472E10SL.html
[08:52:10] <Jymmm> These are inexpensive easy to use and cna be found in any asian market
[08:52:21] <Jymmm> You can cook an entire meal on one
[08:52:46] <Jymmm> great for power outage if you have electric stove.
[08:53:00] <Jymmm> or for camping
[08:53:24] <Jymmm> easy to clean too =)
[10:29:40] <gonzo_nb> just looked back on the chat, I think I have every one of the stoves you guys have mentioned
[10:30:30] <gonzo_nb> that screw in base to take the butane clip on carts was not the best built thing.
[10:31:01] <gonzo_nb> I used it with a tiny mantle lamp
[10:31:15] <gonzo_nb> rather than a stove.
[10:32:06] <gonzo_nb> I have a coke can stove to use with my crusader set (a bit like the sweedish mil set)
[10:32:24] <gonzo_nb> works great for making drinks
[10:32:55] <gonzo_nb> but my favourite stove is still the trangia 27 kit
[10:33:24] <gonzo_nb> that's all for Jymmm and syyl
[12:27:34] <LatheBuilder> good morning
[13:16:03] <sharpen047> hey guys, does anyone use a vfd spindle with emc?
[13:16:42] <Jymmm> gonzo__: I've had GREAT luck with a can of BUTANE and the tripod and burner. I just ordered another tripod/burner last night and got 8 cans of butane for $9 about an hour ago.
[13:18:39] <Jymmm> gonzo__: The bonus is the butane cans also fit this tabletop burner, which is fricken awesome as well!!! http://www.webstaurantstore.com/portable-gas-stove-butane-burner-with-1-range/472E10SL.html
[13:19:20] <archivist> sharpen047, yes, what is the real question though
[13:19:34] <Jymmm> iirc one can will last 2.5 hours on high.
[13:20:19] <sharpen047> archivist: well i am looking at chinese spindles and have a gecko g540. i am wondering if i can set spindle speed with software rather than adjusting speed manually on the vfd
[13:20:44] <humble_sea_bass> YOU can do it with software
[13:20:55] <humble_sea_bass> you just need a controller to manhandle it
[13:21:08] <sharpen047> the vfd doesnt have that in it?
[13:21:15] <archivist> you can use the dc speed input
[13:21:36] <sharpen047> 0-10 volt right? i am told the gecko only outputs 5v though
[13:21:41] <humble_sea_bass> well, if you have a gpio card you can do it too
[13:22:04] <sharpen047> i only use a par port
[13:22:05] <archivist> this is not something that gecko involved in
[13:22:12] <sharpen047> ah ok
[13:22:42] <jthornton> depends on the VFD, on my BP mill I use an Automation Direct VFD and control it with linuxcnc via the gs2 component
[13:23:22] <humble_sea_bass> you can use the geckos general output pins to control the vfd
[13:23:24] <humble_sea_bass> http://www.homanndesigns.com/pdfs/EN010_V8.pdf
[13:24:21] <sharpen047> interesting.
[13:24:51] <humble_sea_bass> but if you don't have a gecko, a supported gpio card will take care of it too
[13:25:29] <sharpen047> same way? or is it through the card only?
[13:25:29] <humble_sea_bass> the forward/reverse thing is just a hi/lo flag and speed is variable voltage up to 10v
[13:26:53] <sharpen047> wow the mesa cards have come a long way. i am also guessing they are now supported better than 3 years ago?
[13:29:25] <sharpen047> thanks guys
[13:31:54] <Tom_itx> much better
[13:39:59] <gene78> silly q guys. in the glade screen, left pane, has EMC Actions been renamed to VCP Actions? Is immediately below the HAL Python expander?
[13:44:46] <gene78> I'm going to pretend it is & see how far I get.
[13:47:03] <JT-Shop> gene78, I guess your correct
[13:50:33] <gene78> Next the tut in the integrators man says to add a hal box but does say what type. I wonder if the wiki is more uptodate than the April 2014 manual?
[13:50:44] <gene78> I'll go check
[14:09:59] <JT-Shop> tiny bit here http://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/gladevcp/index.html
[14:12:30] <CaptHindsight> has anyone played with the HAL2Arduino? http://emc2arduino.wordpress.com/downloads/hal2arduino/
[14:13:18] <CaptHindsight> I'm just looking at it today, something like this would be handy to control non-realtime IO with Linuxcnc
[14:13:48] <humble_sea_bass> i have several audinos with the 64 pins
[14:14:01] <humble_sea_bass> slow weekend project?
[14:15:04] <CaptHindsight> I'd just prefer it to not use *duinos
[14:16:15] <CaptHindsight> applications where a real time Linuxcnc machine is integrated into a process line
[14:16:55] <humble_sea_bass> the newer ones use AVR chips which you can reflash and turn the duino into great input devices
[14:17:06] <humble_sea_bass> i use them for my flight sim crap
[14:19:15] <CaptHindsight> the robot uses real time but what it interacts with can use classicladder
[14:26:40] <CaptHindsight> http://velocio.net/ace/ small embedded PLC's
[15:43:58] <humble_sea_bass> bookmarked
[15:51:58] <jdh> I thought g540 had a 0-10 spindle out
[15:55:07] <humble_sea_bass> it does
[15:55:58] <jdh> gotcha (scrollback lag)
[16:10:47] <Deejay> gn8
[16:11:05] <MacGalempsy> Hola
[16:12:12] <MacGalempsy> Anyone around Arkansas?
[16:13:15] <Tom_itx> Ks
[16:16:38] <MacGalempsy> Cool. Looking for some local linux cnc guys
[16:20:25] <Tom_itx> JT is in Mo
[16:20:53] <MacGalempsy> That could be closer.
[16:21:16] <MacGalempsy> What kind of cnc do you work with?
[16:21:38] <Tom_itx> mine is small
[16:21:48] <Tom_itx> i've got a sherline mill but i've run the big ones
[16:21:55] <Jymmm> skunkworks is small too
[16:22:03] <Tom_itx> where's he at?
[16:22:12] <Jymmm> no clue
[16:23:55] <MacGalempsy> My cnc at the programming phase
[16:24:12] <Jymmm> !seen skunkworks
[16:24:13] <the_wench> last seen in #linuxcnc-devel 2014-09-21 07:05:50GMT 14:59:10 ago, saying joined chan
[16:24:17] <MacGalempsy> But its bern s year since had time to play
[16:24:45] <Jymmm> !seen gawd
[16:24:46] <the_wench> Never heard of the entity gawd you ask for
[16:25:08] <Jymmm> !seen bigfoot
[16:25:08] <the_wench> Never heard of the entity bigfoot you ask for
[16:25:12] <Jymmm> lol
[16:25:22] <MacGalempsy> Has the wizard improved in the last year? Lol
[16:26:31] <MacGalempsy> The reprap room hss a bot
[16:26:52] <MacGalempsy> BOTSLAP!
[16:37:33] <skunkworks> WI
[16:57:48] <MacGalempsy> Anyone got a cool build going?
[17:12:10] <Jymmm> Who was looking for CAT5 to BNC baluns??? http://www.dx.com/p/utp-202a-single-channel-passive-video-audio-transceivers-black-pair-171533?utm_source=dx&utm_medium=albums&utm_campaign=20140804alarmsandsecuritysystems
[17:43:50] <LatheBuilder> Closing in on the final stretch of my first retrofit. Anyone know of a manual fixed number of pulses jog? To derrive leadscrew pitch.
[17:45:20] <LatheBuilder> two of the three leadscrews are not accessible. Would like (if it is possible) to jog 4000 pulses and put a dial indicator on the axis to directly measure movement
[17:46:02] <Tom_itx> if you had a manual jog wheel in place...
[17:46:24] <LatheBuilder> drives are roughly tuned. I do have an hardware mpg hooked up
[17:46:55] <Tom_itx> use it's scale to determine what you need
[17:48:12] <LatheBuilder> (switching from HAL manual to user manual to read up)
[17:48:29] <LatheBuilder> Thanks Tom_itx
[17:51:36] <LatheBuilder> I should add, I have not yet been able to enable the drives to jog under power. Still pretty new to this.
[17:52:02] <Tom_itx> do it cautiously
[17:52:09] <LatheBuilder> as physical connections go, it should be ready now.
[17:53:07] <LatheBuilder> Ya, bit concerned I have my scaling incorrect and it will run away on drive enable (vmc weighs ~3 tons)
[17:54:32] <LatheBuilder> What I have read so far seems to fit with "do not give any commanded position other than wherever it powered up at" before scaling is correct
[17:56:10] <Tom_itx> mill?
[17:56:15] <LatheBuilder> yes
[17:56:28] <Tom_itx> put some wood blocks under Z in case it falls
[17:56:45] <LatheBuilder> good call. brb
[17:58:05] <Tom_itx> test the estop first
[18:07:36] <LatheBuilder> back. spindle chocks in place. built the rotary phase converter with an estop wired in series with the master contactor
[18:24:43] <jdh> live streaming?
[18:25:47] <LatheBuilder> jdh >> me?
[18:26:11] <jdh> yes. a good crash could be entertaining?
[18:26:22] <LatheBuilder> grin.
[18:26:39] <jdh> hey y'all, watch this
[18:26:55] <LatheBuilder> no power to drive amp in spite of drive enable output = on
[18:27:16] <LatheBuilder> more troubleshooting ahead
[18:29:45] <LatheBuilder> using a mesa 5i25 with one 7i77. using channel 1, 2, & 3 for x y & z respectively. ch 0 encoder input comes from handwheel. ch 0 analog out goes to vfd. make any difference if ch 0 analog out not used for an axis?
[18:30:30] <LatheBuilder> drive enable from ch 1 analog out running to my master control contactor
[18:34:09] <LatheBuilder> Tom_itx am I overlooking a jog by number of pulses mode? I see jog continuous and by distance only.
[18:35:33] <PetefromTn_> Afternoon Folks!
[18:35:42] <LatheBuilder> hi Pete
[18:35:49] <PetefromTn_> Hey Lathie
[18:37:22] <LatheBuilder> you retrofitted a mill with lcnc, right?
[18:37:47] <PetefromTn_> yup running it as we speak
[18:37:59] <PetefromTn_> Connor and SSI are here with me right now too LOL
[18:39:04] <zeeshan|2> hi SSI
[18:39:05] <zeeshan|2> !!!!!!11
[18:39:30] <LatheBuilder> cool. working through my first live startup. ran pncconf to get most of my config set.
[18:41:51] <PetefromTn_> he says hello Zeeshan LOL
[18:41:56] <zeeshan|2> :D
[18:42:00] <zeeshan|2> you guys having fun?
[18:42:03] <zeeshan|2> just machining?
[18:42:05] <LatheBuilder> been digging through the hal tutorials...looks like I have a wiring issue to sort through. Drive enable shows active signal, but servo amp is not. getting out the fluke
[18:43:14] <PetefromTn_> Trying to LOL
[18:46:02] <PetefromTn_> Right now I am milling the adapter for Connors fourth axis and we alread got my spindle encoder installed.
[18:49:04] <jdh> 4th axis?
[18:51:53] <zeeshan|2> pete get your atc working!!
[18:52:41] <PetefromTn_> We got the encoder beautifully installed and soldered up SSI did some beauty soldering for me on the MIlspec barrel connector LOL]
[18:52:51] <zeeshan|2> nice
[18:53:04] <zeeshan|2> sounds like a party :D
[18:53:05] <zeeshan|2> and fun
[18:53:11] <jdh> wuss
[18:54:07] <jdh> err... I mean. good!
[18:54:07] <PetefromTn_> Wuss huh... well maybe those parts we made for you could find a better home hehehe
[18:54:39] <jdh> there was plenty of room to solder, wasn't there?
[18:54:45] <jdh> encoder working, index masked?
[18:55:07] <PetefromTn_> well actually both sides of the plug were solder cups so it was much easier than I figured it would be.
[18:55:44] <PetefromTn_> No we have not actually hooked it up yet working on other things. This weekend is not just about my machine trying to get SSI's 0704 pullies and motor mounts machined here.
[18:55:58] <jdh> cool
[20:34:46] <somenewguy> jog continusuly at an abusrly slow rate, whatever minimum wont throw an error? see if motors power up, then slowly ramp up till you can do ur calibration?
[21:04:24] <humble_sea_bass> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrawnH7UVeM&list=UUTuyvr4hC8gBLHdqYFXVO4Q
[23:04:34] <skunkworks> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/889592677/tribot-3d-print-cnc-mill-auto-mold-machine-in-one?ref=recommended
[23:14:59] <XXCoder> all in one: 4 machines that could do 1/4 the job
[23:15:01] <XXCoder> skunkworks:
[23:15:12] <XXCoder> seriously thats interesting
[23:16:32] <skunkworks> I just notice they used linuxcnc
[23:17:03] <XXCoder> it has injection built in too?
[23:18:41] <skunkworks> magical
[23:19:17] <XXCoder> $299 gets me print head :P
[23:19:29] <XXCoder> $1499 for weekend at team
[23:19:47] <XXCoder> $3999 finally gets me device, but not quite, its conversion
[23:20:02] <XXCoder> $4995 FINALLY gets a complete machine