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[01:04:37] <tjtr33> CaptHindsight, Shenzhen
http://dangerousprototypes.com/hackercampshenzhen/
[01:04:38] <tjtr33> Bunnie Huang's OS laptop lead me to it, looks fun, the electronic parts shops are like in Taipei
[01:11:35] <tjtr33> oh forget it 500$ a head to attend, hell you can wander the streets and get all the deals, dunno if the tutorials are worth the wu bai
[01:12:25] <tjtr33> i wouldnt try re-working BGAs anyways ( cant see that well :)
[01:12:32] <tjtr33> gnite
[01:59:01] <Deejay> moin
[03:28:56] <chd> Hi! I finally found the place where to reduce the number of decimals for the axis positions of gmoccapy. If someone is interested: you have to modify the combo_dro.py in lib/python/gladevcp. In the properties of its class Combi_DRO simply replace "%10.3" of mm_text_template with "%10.1f" or "%10.2f" (for one or two decimals). May be that helps a beginner :-)
[03:30:55] <archivist> !wench learn gladevcpdecimalpoints is <chd> Hi! I finally found the place where to reduce the number of decimals for the axis positions of gmoccapy. If someone is interested: you have to modify the combo_dro.py in lib/python/gladevcp. In the properties of its class Combi_DRO simply replace "%10.3" of mm_text_template with "%10.1f" or "%10.2f" (for one or two decimals). May be that helps a beginner :-)
[03:30:55] <the_wench> I have learned gladevcpdecimalpoints is <chd> Hi! I finally found the place where to reduce the number of decimals for the axis positions of gmoccapy. If someone is interested: you have to modify the combo_dro.py in lib/python/gladevcp. In the properties of its class Combi_DRO simply replace "%10.3" of mm_text_template with "%10.1f" or "%10.2f" (for one or two decimals). May be that helps a beginner :-)
[03:32:00] <archivist> gladevcpdecimalpoints
[03:32:00] <the_wench> <chd> Hi! I finally found the place where to reduce the number of decimals for the axis positions of gmoccapy. If someone is interested: you have to modify the combo_dro.py in lib/python/gladevcp. In the properties of its class Combi_DRO simply replace "%10.3" of mm_text_template with "%10.1f" or "%10.2f" (for one or two decimals). May be that helps a beginner :-)
[03:36:36] <chd> For inches someone has to change the corresponding entry 'imperial_text_template' , of course :-)
[03:41:11] <archivist> gladevcpdecimalpoints
[03:41:11] <the_wench> <chd> Hi! I finally found the place where to reduce the number of decimals for the axis positions of gmoccapy. If someone is interested: you have to modify the combo_dro.py in lib/python/gladevcp. In the properties of its class Combi_DRO simply replace "%10.3" of mm_text_template(inch_text_template) with "%10.1f" or "%10.2f" (for one or two decimals). May be that helps a beginner :-)
[03:41:43] <archivist> edited :)
[09:36:40] <Jymmm> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Upgraded-Revolutionary-CNC-Stepper-Driver-Box-Kit-3x-Nema23-Motor-300-Oz-in-PSU-/361027885841?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276
[09:40:58] <_methods> it's a revolution
[09:43:29] <jdh> per minute!
[09:44:08] <jdh> heh... revolutionary TB6560
[09:46:13] <jdh> interesting. I wonder how it 'records the gcode'
[09:47:40] <mutilator> heh
[09:47:49] <mutilator> thats actually kinda nice
[09:47:53] <mutilator> for small repeated stuff
[09:49:09] <Jymmm> mutilator: But, would another PC just be cheaper =)
[09:49:33] <jdh> htf does it get the gcode?
[09:50:02] <mutilator> osmosis
[10:07:53] <lair82> Good Morning guys, Have a question, just swapped out an intel D525W for a new Asrock FM2A88M -HD+ motherboard, and have hit a road block, when I have my 5I23 plugged in, it will not bring up any graphics, when I unplug it, the desktop starts up just fine. Any thoughts?
[10:10:51] <_methods> power supply?
[10:16:23] <lair82> I have some of the most off the wall stuff happen in this shop. After walking away for 5 mins to send the first post, it was sitting there running when I just walked back out there.
[10:35:32] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[10:39:40] <IchGuckLive> back later BYE
[10:44:44] <CaptHindsight> lair82: what do you think the problem was?
[10:45:12] <lair82> Not sure, it is starting fine now,
[10:49:29] <pcw_home> if you move cards around it pays to clean the contact fingers in 99% IPA
[10:49:30] <pcw_home> before inserting the new slot. Lots of PCI issues are dirty contact related
[10:54:49] <lair82> I'm just not sure though if it was related to the 5I23.
[10:55:47] <lair82> I am wondering if it was something graphics related between the drivers on the new board and the "vesa" driver that was setup in the xorg file.
[10:59:47] <lair82> While I'm thinking about, we are moving towards retrofitting a mill, first one, and I want to go with the 7I80, what is a recommended MB to go with. I am thinking I would like to stay with using the AMD processors wether it be the A4, A6, or A10 series, I like what I am seeing in regards to performance on the machines.
[11:08:42] <cradek> lair82: if you have the PCI ID defined in the xorg.conf, it'll fail to match if you change the pci cards
[11:11:54] <lair82> I only changed the mother board.
[11:12:12] <cpresser> but different MBs have different interrupt routing
[11:12:20] <cpresser> and different chipset
[11:13:30] <lair82> How would I go about removing the xorg.conf files, so as to run the standard graphics that come with the motherboard?
[11:13:38] <lair82> Simply delete the file?
[11:14:45] <cpresser> that should work. xorg will autogenerate a new config
[11:14:50] <cpresser> dont delete, move :)
[11:14:59] <lair82> I configured that originally to get the latency down on the intel board, but the latency is just fine with the new MB/CPU combo,
[11:15:12] <lair82> OK, I will give that a shot
[11:15:49] <cpresser> it might be easier to reinstall linux, and then just copy in your old linuxcnc-config
[11:16:42] <lair82> I was thinking along those lines earlier,
[11:18:17] <lair82> Maybe I will do that, gives me reason to try making a new iso on a USB
[11:18:47] <pcw_home> lair82: I dont have any experience with modern AMD MBs and hm2_eth, it depends on how the MB does with Preemt-RT
[11:20:01] <pcw_home> ( the Ethernet stuff is likely the same since almost all newer MBs use RTK8111s)
[11:20:48] <lair82> Fair enough, what roughly does the 7I80 go for?
[11:22:42] <pcw_home> depends on model but I think around $150
[11:22:58] <CaptHindsight> lair82: I'd reinstall. The last problem we are working on is the video hardware accel driver for the APU's with RTAI
[11:23:53] <CaptHindsight> memleak just got 3.14 RTAI working so we should gave the driver issues sorted out next
[11:24:06] <lair82> Yep, just found it on the price list, The current date is from last year on the price list, that's why I didn't bother scrolling to look for it.
[11:24:29] <lair82> CaptHindsight , will do.
[11:25:18] <CaptHindsight> but graphics with the software llvmpipe driver is fast enough to smoothly playback HD video while running linuxcnc
[11:28:52] <lair82> pcw_home , will it a require a special firmware to run the 7I49 resolver card. I know you have emailed it to me in the past?
[11:33:18] <pcw_home> Yes and It will take a bit of work to get the resolver interface working on Spartan6 based FPGAs (all our Ethernet FPGA cards use Spartan6)
[11:40:09] <zeeshan> hi friends
[11:42:13] <zeeshan> anyone here have a CNMG 331 holder
[11:42:23] <zeeshan> will it fit CCMT 3 2.5 1 inserts?
[11:42:31] <zeeshan> even though the ccmt are positive rake
[11:42:51] <zeeshan> ie can you use positive rake inserts in a negative rake holder
[11:55:09] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:22:40] <sharpen047> hey CaptHindsight you there?
[12:23:50] <CaptHindsight> sort of
[12:25:09] <sharpen047> what is this helio.c?
[12:25:23] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/hY4bEDY.png
[12:25:26] <zeeshan> im really thinking
[12:25:37] <zeeshan> a ccmt insert should work in a cnmg insert type of holder
[12:28:32] <CaptHindsight> sharpen047:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/uploads/halio.c
[12:29:49] <Tom_itx> zeeshan are they both held in the same way?
[12:30:08] <zeeshan> yes, they both have the same IC
[12:30:14] <zeeshan> so the insert overall size is the same
[12:30:22] <zeeshan> and ujses the same screw
[12:30:42] <Tom_itx> it would set behind the holder a bit
[12:30:47] <Tom_itx> the CCMT one
[12:32:02] <zeeshan> what do you mean set behind
[12:32:13] <zeeshan> like if i were to plunge into a piece during roughing
[12:32:17] <zeeshan> the tool holder would hit first
[12:32:19] <zeeshan> not the insert?
[12:32:21] <Tom_itx> looks like the angle is set back from the holder in the pic
[12:32:30] <Tom_itx> possibly
[12:32:50] <Tom_itx> i'd have to physically see one
[12:32:58] <zeeshan> yea, thats the problem
[12:33:08] <zeeshan> i only have CNMG 431 inserts
[12:33:13] <Tom_itx> you can always call and ask em
[12:33:20] <zeeshan> and CCMT 3 2.5 1 inserts
[12:33:27] <zeeshan> so the IC is 1/2 vs 3/8 inch
[12:33:33] <zeeshan> so i cant physically check what i currently have
[12:33:50] <zeeshan> i was planning to order some CCMT 4 2.5 1 inserts for the holder i have if it will work..
[12:33:57] <archivist> look at your catalog for the holder to see what inserts it can take
[12:34:07] <zeeshan> archivist: catalog says no
[12:34:13] <Tom_itx> then no
[12:34:14] <zeeshan> it only lists CN***
[12:34:18] <zeeshan> b ut physically i think it will work
[12:34:28] <zeeshan> i've seen a few people comment on it on forums too that it will work
[12:34:31] <Tom_itx> all you'd be out would be a pack of inserts
[12:34:33] <archivist> tias
[12:34:35] <zeeshan> but they never list the insert info
[12:35:20] <archivist> or mill your own holder
[12:35:26] <zeeshan> i love cn* holders
[12:35:27] <zeeshan> er
[12:35:29] <zeeshan> cn style inserts
[12:35:34] <zeeshan> 4 edges! vs ccmt 2 edges
[12:35:41] <Tom_itx> heh
[12:35:43] <zeeshan> but ccmt gets nicer finish in aluminum
[12:36:16] <zeeshan> ill just buy the inserts and if worst comes to worst
[12:36:21] <zeeshan> ill buy some cheapo chinese holders
[12:36:59] <Tom_itx> i've got a sandvik pdf if that would help
[12:37:52] <Tom_itx> for turning tools
[12:38:00] <zeeshan> is that the one on their website?
[12:38:05] <archivist> fun finding the sandvik pdfs on their own site
[12:38:08] <Tom_itx> probably
[12:39:09] <zeeshan> i cant wait to try these vnmg inserts that hopefully got shipped today
[12:39:16] <zeeshan> they are amazing for profile work on a lathe
[12:40:17] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.ddns01.com:81/~webpage/cnc/SANDVIK_TURN_H.pdf
[12:40:23] <Tom_itx> i tossed it up there if you want it
[12:40:31] <zeeshan> thank you
[12:44:40] <Tom_itx> must go now.
[12:48:36] <IchGuckLive> servus dieter_fraesrech
[12:48:51] <IchGuckLive> so you made it
[12:49:02] <IchGuckLive> hbo4 runnning in full service
[12:53:06] <sharpen047> anyone mind helping me get camview window buttons to work? camview shows cam with crosshair but i click a button and it tells me it cant open file
[13:00:22] <zeeshan> archivist:
[13:00:27] <zeeshan> i have a serious question for you!
[13:00:34] <zeeshan> how in the world do you zero out a took like this:
[13:00:48] <zeeshan> http://www.carbidedepot.com/images/holders-mvvn-1.gif
[13:00:55] <zeeshan> X touch off is okay
[13:01:01] <zeeshan> but how do you do Z touch off?
[13:01:08] <zeeshan> i need to find the center of the tip of the tool.
[13:03:11] <archivist> one of those awkward ones, a camera possible
[13:03:21] <archivist> or cut and measure
[13:03:28] <zeeshan> cut and measure how though
[13:03:43] <archivist> all my gear cutters have the same problem
[13:04:33] <zeeshan> what i need to do is mount a haimer touch probe
[13:04:37] <zeeshan> into the spindle
[13:04:49] <zeeshan> get the exact measurement to the center of the tip
[13:04:55] <zeeshan> and start touching all my tool on it :P
[13:06:03] <archivist> my threading tool has the same problem
http://www.archivist.info/cnc/stage6/p1010245.jpg
[13:06:23] <zeeshan> haha thats a nice threading tool
[13:06:28] <zeeshan> sexy
[13:07:25] <archivist> home made
[13:07:31] <zeeshan> can you do a bit of math to get z touch off in my case?
[13:07:38] <zeeshan> like for example, you know the radius of the tool nose..
[13:07:42] <zeeshan> and you know X position.
[13:07:49] <archivist> and this, cannot see work centre as well as cutter
http://www.archivist.info/cnc/target.php
[13:08:04] <zeeshan> actually nm
[13:08:16] <archivist> and the cutter can be off centre
[13:08:35] <zeeshan> how do you know your camera
[13:08:44] <zeeshan> is flat against that plane you're looking at?
[13:09:20] <archivist> and that, I stopped using the camera :)
[13:11:06] <archivist> what tend to do it make something measure the errors/offsets and adjust the gcode, make another, rinse repeat till I get a good one
[13:12:01] <archivist> an example of how many rinses
http://gears.archivist.info/P1010320_hires.JPG
[13:14:17] <SpeedEvil> you're machining 10p pieces?
[13:14:20] <SpeedEvil> That's not bad.
[13:14:27] <archivist> that is a 5p
[13:14:32] <SpeedEvil> oops
[13:16:59] <archivist> I did take many pictures trying to get a usable one proof it was 5p
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2009/2009_08_13_verge/P1010312.JPG
[13:17:19] <zeeshan> you love your brass!
[13:21:20] <archivist> I like teh measuring tools so I can do the rinse repeat method
[13:22:25] <archivist> I need a a multitude of pennies for a measuring machine I found the other day at a second hand machine tool dealer
[13:36:50] <sharpen047> would anyone mind helping me get camview window buttons to work? camview shows cam with crosshair but i click a button and it tells me it cant open command file
[13:39:41] <archivist> what was the error message, ie why cant it open it, cannot find or permissions or what
[13:41:18] <sharpen047> let me open in a term
[13:41:35] <zeeshan> how come carbide inserts for threading
[13:41:40] <zeeshan> has a insert per pitch?
[13:41:55] <zeeshan> seems like the nose radius is different per insert..
[13:42:04] <archivist> because the insert cleans the top of the thread too
[13:42:05] <zeeshan> and the location of the nose
[13:42:17] <skunkworks> so - if I have a base thread of 50us - 100 line single chanel encoder - I theoretically should be able to spin the encoder up to 6000rpm - right? did I do the math right?
[13:42:21] <archivist> and yes the radius changes
[13:42:23] <sharpen047> archivist: emc/task/emctask.cc 389: interp_error: Unable to open file <_camcenter3> Unable to open file <_camcenter3>
[13:42:38] <zeeshan> archivist: hmm so all these threading ive done with a universal single point 60 degree tool
[13:42:43] <zeeshan> has the incorrect radius i bet.
[13:42:46] <zeeshan> for the threads ive been cutting
[13:42:48] <archivist> yup
[13:42:52] <zeeshan> lol
[13:43:04] <zeeshan> fak!
[13:43:17] <zeeshan> i'm just gonna get a fine thread
[13:43:21] <zeeshan> and coarse thread insert
[13:43:24] <sharpen047> zeeshan: are you thread milling?
[13:43:28] <zeeshan> sharpen047: no
[13:44:19] <archivist> thread milling without leaning at the helix angle has to be a bodge
[13:45:03] <zeeshan> archivist: is there any way to make a couple of inserts work.
[13:45:13] <zeeshan> like i mainly do 1.00, 1.5mm and 1.75
[13:45:23] <zeeshan> 8 tpi , 12 tpi, 24tpi
[13:45:58] <zeeshan> ie using the metric ones for imperial threads :p
[13:46:01] <zeeshan> im sure its slightly different
[13:46:13] <archivist> you can get away with near enough some of the time, you may need to run a die down it to fix the tops
[13:46:30] <zeeshan> well the problem is
[13:46:36] <zeeshan> if im cutting threads on the lathe, likely i dont have a die for it :p
[13:46:44] <zeeshan> cause its prolly something retarded like m32 x 1.5
[13:46:45] <zeeshan> :D
[13:47:08] <archivist> to get your peaks to fit you are probably undersizing the thread
[13:47:29] <zeeshan> i guess i need to order 2 of the correct pitch
[13:47:33] <zeeshan> thats like prolly 200$ of inserts
[13:47:42] <zeeshan> i guess ill order them as the job comes along
[13:47:56] <archivist> should be able to find cheaper on fleabay
[13:48:59] <archivist> sharpen047, not enough info in that message (no error number) 2 cannot find, 13 permissions
[13:49:56] <sharpen047> is there any way to get more info about it?
[13:50:21] <archivist> fix the source that is trying to open the file
[13:50:53] <sharpen047> so that would be the ui file in this case?
[13:51:18] <archivist> could be, the call should be returning enough info
[13:52:04] <sharpen047> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Axis_Embed_Video other people seem to be able to use it. wondering if 2.6.1 is too new vs 2.5 to work correctly
[13:52:24] <_methods> zeeshan: you can get it close and clean it up with a thread file
[13:52:36] <_methods> leave it a bit over then dial it in to perfect by hand
[13:53:11] <zeeshan> _methods: i guess if im in a pinch
[13:53:15] <zeeshan> i will do that
[13:53:20] <zeeshan> ideally it'd be nice to have the correct pitch
[13:53:21] <sharpen047> archivist: MDI_COMMAND=o<_camstore>call this is in my halui in my INI file. is this all? seems like it should want more
[13:53:23] <zeeshan> then it requires no brain work!
[13:53:45] <archivist> sharpen047, I have never used it
[13:53:45] <_methods> well perfect costs $$
[13:54:08] <_methods> correct thread form tools would be the best scenario
[13:55:02] <archivist> sharpen047, when I did a camera it was back in the 2.3 days and not in axis, was separate
[13:55:38] <zeeshan> yes
[13:55:48] <zeeshan> all depends on if the thread is holding something strucutral
[13:55:59] <zeeshan> a lot of the times when im doing big threads, its for things like oil filler caps
[13:56:02] <zeeshan> or tanks
[13:56:05] <sharpen047> CaptHindsight: let me know when you get to that page. id be interested in rewriting some better directions
[13:56:08] <zeeshan> that arent under pressure
[13:56:14] <zeeshan> or if they are, itll be 30 psi at most
[14:04:40] <CaptHindsight> sharpen047: feel free to edit the wiki page. I can chime in with any details later
[14:04:55] <CaptHindsight> or variations
[14:17:09] <sharpen047> anyone familliar with tuxplot?
[14:47:46] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, reading up since last... you could mount a blade of known thickness at known location and touch off to either side of it and do the math to find the Z center of:
http://www.carbidedepot.com/images/holders-mvvn-1.gif
[14:48:35] <zeeshan> do you mean
[14:48:45] <zeeshan> like having a lathe part that already had a well defined slot in it
[14:48:55] <zeeshan> and touching both sides of the insert at the same X depth
[14:49:00] <zeeshan> and dividing the number by 2?
[14:50:33] <Tom_itx> that would work
[14:50:49] <Tom_itx> taking into account any backlash comp
[14:51:12] <zeeshan> you know what would be cool?
[14:51:22] <zeeshan> having a lathe piece with 2 electronic probes sticking out of it
[14:51:29] <Tom_itx> make one
[14:51:29] <zeeshan> when the lights light up
[14:51:35] <zeeshan> haha that'd be cool.
[14:51:56] <Tom_itx> not hard, make 2 plates of copper of known width apart
[14:52:02] <Tom_itx> touch the tool between them
[14:52:26] <zeeshan> i'd make it out of thin copper pieces
[14:52:31] <zeeshan> so they have some flex to them
[14:52:47] <Tom_itx> you don't want much flex if you want an accurate tool set
[14:52:56] <Tom_itx> just move it slow
[14:53:37] <Tom_itx> i suppose you could make the holder with a detent in it so it would move if it had to but return to the exact same spot
[14:54:37] <zeeshan> yes
[14:57:19] <Tom_itx> write a sub with the probe routines store each value returning the center result
[14:57:46] * zeeshan will look into it :)
[15:01:32] <JT-Shop> dang hot today here Tom_itx
[15:03:01] * JT-Shop needs to tear the rest of the X axis out and put it on a diet
[15:09:35] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop tis so!
[15:10:52] <Tom_itx> 95°F
[15:11:27] <Tom_itx> so much for mowing atm
[15:13:25] <Tom_itx> bottle it and save it for winter
[16:37:45] <Deejay> gn8
[16:48:08] <JT-Shop> too hot and dry for the grass to grow much here
[16:50:16] <JT-Shop> humidity is only 50% no wonder it only feels like 95F outside
[16:54:24] <CaptHindsight> we haven't seen much above the 80's all summer, but 90's tomorrow and for the next week
[16:58:05] <JT-Shop> we have high 90's for the next few days :(
[17:04:29] <CaptHindsight> we had 50's at night, even some 40's most of June and July
[17:05:30] <JT-Shop> we had some nice days and nights June and July too, quite unusual for this area
[17:06:17] <JT-Shop> dang touch screen is getting blurry on the BP
[17:06:52] <CaptHindsight> how do you save changes to Grub in Wheezy?
[17:07:12] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: humidity?
[17:07:30] <JT-Shop> shop is air conditioned
[17:15:10] <zeeshan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yl26NbBBaM&feature=youtu.be
[17:15:10] <CaptHindsight> looks like edit /etc/default/grub, then run update-grub works
[17:15:12] * zeeshan loves mastercam
[17:16:17] <zeeshan> hm
[17:16:26] <zeeshan> i should plung with the vnmg tool
[17:16:28] <zeeshan> before parting off
[17:16:30] <zeeshan> so i have a chamfer
[17:17:51] <JT-Shop> that could work if it don't mess with the parting tool
[17:46:42] <JT-Shop> LOL OneCNC generated pocket High Speed = 6k lines of G code and Traditional is 1k
[17:53:50] <Tom_itx> line segments
[17:54:07] <Tom_itx> ok mowing is done and so am i
[17:55:44] <Tom_itx> zeeshan you could cheat and use the parting tool for the chamfer too
[18:35:22] <os1r1s> Tom_itx: Are you still selling the usbtiny mk2?
[18:59:43] <zeeshan> hi
[18:59:50] <zeeshan> can someone go over g76 with me step by step? :)
[19:00:02] <Tom_itx> os1r1s i have a few left
[19:00:12] <os1r1s> Tom_itx: Not selling them anymore/
[19:00:35] <Tom_itx> the site isn't but i still can
[19:00:54] <zeeshan> pretty please! someone
[19:01:01] <zeeshan> im trying to get the post processor of mastercam to output right
[19:01:25] * Tom_itx forgot what G76 was
[19:01:32] <zeeshan> canned threading cycle on the lathe
[19:01:58] <zeeshan> so from my understanding
[19:01:58] <os1r1s> Tom_itx: I have one, but a friend liked it and wanted to get one. Can he paypal you?
[19:02:04] <zeeshan> i would do G01 X_ Z_
[19:02:12] <Tom_itx> os1r1s, yeah that's fine
[19:02:17] <zeeshan> X determines the driveline , Z determines the starting point of the thread
[19:02:23] <Tom_itx> lemme get details in a bit, i'm eating atm
[19:02:39] <os1r1s> Tom_itx: no worries. Can you pm me?
[19:02:47] <Tom_itx> os1r1s, which one did he want?
[19:03:10] <os1r1s> Tom_itx: I thought you only had one mk2
[19:03:22] <Tom_itx> the plain one and the one in the blue box
[19:03:51] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: What about the one in the gold plated box?
[19:03:51] <os1r1s> plain one I think. Unless the blue box is nominally more expensiv
[19:03:53] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/boards/USBTiny_Mkii/USBTiny_Mkii_index.php
[19:03:55] <Tom_itx> seen there
[19:04:37] <os1r1s> Tom_itx: Whats the price diff?
[19:04:48] <Tom_itx> lemme check in a bit...
[19:04:54] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Yeah ya bastard... HOW MUCH!!!
[19:05:16] * Tom_itx points a laser beam at Jymmm's ehe
[19:05:18] <Tom_itx> eye
[19:06:11] * Jymmm grabs the mirror are redirects the beam to Tom_itx's crotch !!!
[19:06:41] <Jymmm> lol
[19:09:52] <Jymmm> You're kidding me right? $48 for a HAND wirewrap tool?!
http://www.amazon.com/Industries-Wire-Strip-Unwrap-22-24/dp/B002R16KRC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1408665024&sr=8-2&keywords=22+wire+wrap+tool
[19:11:01] <Tom_itx> but there's only one left
[19:11:22] <Jymmm> Ok, explain this $134 one
http://www.amazon.com/Manual-Wire-Wrap-Unwrap-22-24/dp/B0047CWHWQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1408665124&sr=8-4&keywords=22+awg+wrap+tool
[19:11:51] <Tom_itx> it's got more pieces
[19:12:04] <Jymmm> lol
[19:12:38] <Tom_itx> i didn't realize anyone still wirewrapped
[19:13:18] <zeeshan> parameter E and L for g76
[19:13:23] <Tom_itx> it's about as easy just to send a board off to china
[19:13:24] <zeeshan> E- - Specifies the distance along the drive line used for the taper. The angle of the taper will be so the last pass tapers to the thread crest over the distance specified with E.' E0.2' will give a taper for the first/last 0.2 length units along the thread. For a 45 degree taper program E the same as K
[19:13:28] <zeeshan> can someone explain that?
[19:13:31] <zeeshan> is that only for NPT threads?
[19:13:56] <Tom_itx> apparently for any tapered thread
[19:14:05] <Tom_itx> are you making wood screws?
[19:14:43] <Tom_itx> i should look at my post for the thread cycle
[19:16:08] <zeeshan> Tom_itx: please do link me
[19:16:10] <JT-Shop> zeeshan, that is the lead in and lead out taper not for NPT threads
[19:16:35] <zeeshan> jthornton: i dont quiet understand that
[19:16:43] * JT-Shop wanders inside
[19:16:51] <zeeshan> i realize R, E, L all refer to lead in / lead out
[19:17:02] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, maybe so it's not a sharp thread on the end?
[19:18:06] <Tom_itx> once you figure it out you can machine Jymmm some self tapping bolts
[19:18:17] <zeeshan> lol
[19:20:20] <Tom_itx> mine uses G74 or G84
[19:20:42] <Tom_itx> or at least this post i'm looking at
[19:21:56] <zeeshan> okay screw this canned cycle
[19:21:58] <zeeshan> im just gonna use g33
[19:22:01] <zeeshan> its easier
[19:22:06] <zeeshan> cause the computer does the rest for me
[19:22:42] <Tom_itx> the one i used for lcnc didn't have fixed cycles defined yet
[19:22:47] <Tom_itx> i did it in a hurry for a job
[19:24:29] <Tom_itx> this other one used G33 as well
[19:24:59] <zeeshan> ah
[19:25:06] <Tom_L> G33Z#ZPOSK#FTHRD
[19:25:06] <Tom_L> @FXD4
[19:25:10] <zeeshan> if use g33, then i can do npt too
[19:25:17] <Tom_L> or
[19:25:20] <Tom_L> G33Z#ZPASSK#FEED
[19:25:20] <Tom_L> M03
[19:25:21] <Tom_L> G33Z#ZPOSK#FEED
[19:25:21] <Tom_L> @DWELL
[19:25:38] <Tom_L> depending on a user defined variable
[19:26:54] <Tom_itx> a mazak one uses G33 as well
[19:27:39] <Tom_itx> looks like most of the ones that have it defined use G33
[19:28:31] <Tom_itx> you don't even wanna see how dynapath does it
[19:28:48] <zeeshan> hehe
[19:30:32] <zeeshan> N1220 T03 M06 N1230 G43 H03
[19:30:36] <zeeshan> i wonder if i have this set wrong
[19:30:43] <zeeshan> do i need to specify H03 after G43?
[19:37:41] <zeeshan> ps. Tom_itx excellent call on using the part off tool for radius
[19:37:51] <zeeshan> i didnt even see the option in the cam to allow parting off w/ radius or chamfer
[19:38:29] <Tom_itx> saves a tool
[19:38:44] <zeeshan> what's really awesome about having mastercam in solidworks is this
[19:39:10] <zeeshan> i made a database of all the weld an-fittings i want based on size -3 -4 -6 -8 -10 -16 etc
[19:39:27] <zeeshan> so i choose what fitting i want, and the model updates and the cam program updates
[19:39:37] <zeeshan> !
[19:39:45] <zeeshan> Tom_itx: yes
[19:44:54] <Tom_itx> os1r1s, PM
[19:46:16] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, just make sure the chamfer isn't greater than the cutoff tool angle
[19:46:36] <zeeshan> cutoff tool angle?
[19:46:53] <Tom_itx> /|
[19:47:01] <Tom_itx> or |\
[19:47:04] <Tom_itx> depending
[19:47:39] <Tom_itx> the point on the cutoff blade
[19:48:20] <Tom_itx> or are you using a flat one?
[19:48:23] <zeeshan> haha
[19:48:26] <zeeshan> see thats where i was getting confused
[19:48:29] <zeeshan> im using this:
[19:48:47] <zeeshan> http://www.iscar.com/eCatalog/Family.aspx?fnum=373&mapp=TG&app=51&GFSTYP=M
[19:49:07] <Tom_itx> ok
[19:49:12] <zeeshan> its like a grooving tool
[19:49:18] <Tom_itx> yeah a flat cutter
[19:49:45] <zeeshan> tools like that
[19:49:53] <zeeshan> should never be fed along the Z direction right?
[19:49:58] <zeeshan> cause the insert will fly out
[19:50:02] <Tom_itx> :D
[19:50:11] <Tom_itx> i'm not sure we used those
[19:50:14] <zeeshan> i might a light cut to make a .015 radius
[19:50:23] <Tom_itx> i think we may have used a regular steel cutoff blade
[19:50:29] <zeeshan> ah
[19:50:43] <Tom_itx> those may not work for the chamfer.. you can try it i suppose
[19:50:52] <Tom_itx> if you feed into the part
[19:50:54] <zeeshan> i dunno what i wrote in the last sentence, but i mean im sure it will be okay for a 0.015 radius
[19:51:02] <Tom_itx> instead of cutting backing out
[19:51:08] <zeeshan> yes
[19:51:12] <zeeshan> its cuting while feeding in
[19:51:15] <zeeshan> very small amount
[19:51:43] <zeeshan> i'm not gonna chamfter anymore!
[19:51:49] <zeeshan> radius every damn thing
[19:52:02] <Tom_itx> depends what the blueprint calls out
[19:52:09] <zeeshan> i am the blue print
[19:52:11] <zeeshan> hehe
[19:52:30] <XXCoder> damn you tattooed blue prints on you?
[19:52:41] <zeeshan> sometimes you cant avoid chamfers though
[19:52:45] <XXCoder> "wheres blueprint for that widget" "Okay lemme drop pants"
[19:52:53] <zeeshan> XXCoder: lol
[19:53:11] <Tom_itx> on my manual lathe all my chamfers are done with a quick hit from the file
[19:53:43] <zeeshan> thats how i did my chamfter before completing parting
[19:53:46] <zeeshan> i'd dip in half way
[19:53:57] <zeeshan> chamfer with a fine file, then complete part off
[19:54:03] <zeeshan> its a little scary sometimes
[19:54:10] <zeeshan> if you get the file wedged between the slot, you get owned hard.
[19:54:31] <Tom_itx> if it's a wide gap i use a BIG file
[19:54:52] <zeeshan> you know one cool thing ive seen?
[19:55:37] <zeeshan> http://www.carbidedepot.com/images/holders-mten-1.gif
[19:55:49] <zeeshan> someone plunges with that first
[19:55:57] <zeeshan> then parts by eyeballing it
[19:56:02] <Tom_itx> yeah
[19:56:07] <Tom_itx> i've done that manually
[20:09:58] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, i specify the G43 first then the H word just like you showed above
[20:10:07] <zeeshan> ah okay
[20:10:13] <zeeshan> do you ever peck when parting off?
[20:10:31] <Tom_itx> it doesn't take effect until a linear move is given
[20:10:44] <Tom_itx> i generally set it on during the 'move to work' move
[20:11:13] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, yeah you can to clear the chips
[20:11:21] <Tom_itx> unless you like birds nests
[20:11:24] <zeeshan> i for some rewason cant find the option to peck
[20:11:28] <zeeshan> in mastercam
[20:11:33] <zeeshan> well i see it
[20:11:35] <zeeshan> but its greyed out ;p
[20:11:42] <zeeshan> hm
[20:12:13] <Tom_itx> is there a cutoff depth and a 'step' to define the peck?
[20:12:29] <Tom_itx> i haven't messed with my lathe package enough to know it fluently
[20:12:35] <zeeshan> hmm
[20:12:38] <zeeshan> i got it to ungrey
[20:12:38] <Tom_itx> we did all ours MDI
[20:12:47] <zeeshan> its cause ididnt have the depth set correctly
[20:14:25] <Tom_itx> i had fun with that lid i did for andy because i had to import his file into my mill package first then export it to the 2d lathe one
[20:14:44] <Tom_itx> iirc all he had was a 3d model or something..
[20:15:13] <Tom_itx> and the axis were all backwards after the conversion
[20:15:43] <jdh> 25% off onlinemetals.com today
[20:16:19] * SpeedEvil sighs.
[20:16:19] <zeeshan> heh
[20:16:20] <zeeshan> :D
[20:16:32] * SpeedEvil wishes there were a nice online metal store in the UK.
[20:16:34] <SpeedEvil> (*)
[20:16:47] <SpeedEvil> * Nice = will sell me scrap stuff.
[20:16:57] <Tom_itx> SpeedEvil what brought you to linuxcnc? you were in #electronics like forever!
[20:17:11] <jdh> I drove by a scrap place today. It looked like they might sell instead of only buy.
[20:18:31] <SpeedEvil> Tom_itx: I am pretending I'm going to make a CNC
[20:18:46] <zeeshan> i dunno if this is a little too much
[20:18:51] <zeeshan> im pecking every 0.050"
[20:18:54] <zeeshan> and retracting 10 thou
[20:19:05] <Tom_itx> give it a try
[20:19:13] <zeeshan> it sucks having no feel for something
[20:19:21] <Tom_itx> depends on the material alot
[20:19:24] <Tom_itx> how the chips fly
[20:19:29] <zeeshan> this is stainless
[20:19:38] <Tom_itx> don't let it work harden
[20:20:52] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.ddns01.com:81/~webpage/cnc/Lathe/thread1.jpg
[20:20:58] <Tom_itx> my bud made me a couple of those
[20:21:01] <Tom_itx> 3 TPI
[20:21:30] <zeeshan> whats that for
[20:21:44] <Tom_itx> to replace a wood counterpart
[20:21:58] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.ddns01.com:81/~webpage/cnc/Lathe/thread.jpg
[20:21:58] <zeeshan> ah cool
[20:22:01] <zeeshan> thats a super coarse threead
[20:22:06] <Tom_itx> antique furniture
[20:22:22] <SpeedEvil> Why not just replace in wood?
[20:22:28] <zeeshan> Tom_itx: do you use a lot of mastercam?
[20:22:37] <Tom_itx> i didn't have the equipment to make it in wood
[20:22:49] <Tom_itx> i tried just a cutter and it just chewed up the wood
[20:22:55] <Tom_itx> you'd need a live tool for that
[20:23:06] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, no, i use smartcam
[20:23:13] * zeeshan is stalking your pics
[20:23:14] <Tom_itx> i've seen mastercam and surfcam though
[20:23:19] <Tom_itx> and catia
[20:23:20] <zeeshan> smartcam looks very hardcore
[20:23:21] <zeeshan> :D
[20:23:33] <SpeedEvil> Tom_itx: chisel works fine
[20:23:33] <Tom_itx> i liked it better than mastercam at the time
[20:23:46] <zeeshan> oh trust me
[20:23:48] <Tom_itx> SpeedEvil, i was under a time crunch to get it fixed
[20:23:49] <zeeshan> i used to hate mastercam 9
[20:23:50] <zeeshan> haha
[20:23:54] <SpeedEvil> Tom_itx: fair enough
[20:24:31] <Tom_itx> i didn't have any wood lathe tools around either
[20:24:40] <zeeshan> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BG_wFLLqDss/SP6DzcgUwqI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/TtudYbtJdi0/s1600-h/Version+8.JPG
[20:24:41] <zeeshan> that shit
[20:24:42] <zeeshan> lol
[20:24:45] <zeeshan> i used to use that
[20:25:25] <zeeshan> looks like the interface was made by the same guys who made the the gui for ansys mechanical apdl
[20:26:00] <zeeshan> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ITZaR9JLWOU/maxresdefault.jpg
[20:26:03] <zeeshan> :)
[20:26:17] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, i have a dos ver of smartcam
[20:26:25] <zeeshan> you're hardcore
[20:26:25] <zeeshan> lol
[20:31:05] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, does mastercam use a USB dongle?
[20:31:16] <Tom_itx> back then they all used parport dongles...
[20:31:29] <zeeshan> apparently you still have a dongle for the licensing
[20:31:33] <zeeshan> but people have hacked it
[20:31:36] <zeeshan> you dont need any of it anymore
[20:32:09] <Tom_itx> what ver solidworks does it work on?
[20:32:18] <zeeshan> mastercam x7 works on 2013 +
[20:32:21] <zeeshan> x6 works on 2012
[20:32:25] <Tom_itx> figures
[20:32:26] <zeeshan> x5 2010-2011
[20:32:28] <Tom_itx> mine is pretty old
[20:34:35] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, i did sit down one day and figure out how to machine all sides of a block with it once. i never do it that way rather make P1 P2 P3... files
[20:35:18] <zeeshan> honestly, since you know another cam software
[20:35:24] <zeeshan> you'll pick it up really quickly.
[20:35:34] <zeeshan> the interface is really nice
[20:35:48] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.ddns01.com:81/~webpage/cnc/toolplane1.jpg
[20:35:53] <Tom_itx> look at those pics
[20:35:57] <Tom_itx> 1 2 & 3
[20:39:31] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, i had a bud that used acad using ncpolaris to post
[20:39:40] <zeeshan> haha
[20:39:44] <Tom_itx> i _really_ didn't like that
[20:39:46] <zeeshan> i dont think that stuff is used anymore
[20:39:51] <zeeshan> since like 2000?
[20:39:56] <Tom_itx> or earlier
[20:40:10] <zeeshan> what irritates me is when companies still to this do
[20:40:16] <zeeshan> *this day do acad 3d drawings
[20:40:23] <zeeshan> its such a waste of time and money
[20:40:28] <zeeshan> i'll never work for a company like that
[20:40:29] <Tom_itx> he was real good with it
[20:55:10] <anarchos> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NEW-CNC-Router-Mill-Tool-Setting-Touch-Plate-works-with-Mach3-Auto-Check-/251622878818?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a95e46e62&_uhb=1
[20:55:18] <anarchos> worth checking out for $9? :D
[21:03:18] <jdh> I have one that came with my router
[21:03:35] <anarchos> same model? does it work?
[21:04:13] <jdh> still wrapped up. looks the same. Has a 1/8" plug and the clip for the tool
[21:06:14] <anarchos> hmm
[21:58:11] <zeeshan> am i on drugs
[21:58:23] <zeeshan> im using my optical flat to inspect my micrometer anvils
[21:58:32] <zeeshan> and all i see the anvils with no patterns on them :P
[21:58:45] <zeeshan> do i REALLY need monochromatic light to have the lines show up
[22:46:46] <zeeshan> man
[22:46:54] <zeeshan> whenever i search for stuff on google regarding machining
[22:47:06] <zeeshan> its scary how many times my own stuff comes up from the irc logs of this channel.
[22:47:41] <zeeshan> i googled 'lathe turning odd stuff'
[22:47:42] <zeeshan> and clicked images
[22:47:47] <zeeshan> 50-60th image is this:
[22:47:51] <zeeshan> http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fj8cfYVT.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpsha.org.ru%2Firc%2F%2523emc%2F2014-06-22.html&h=1936&w=2592&tbnid=66kV06Ts7--0eM%3A&zoom=1&docid=p3lZsa_dfdstzM&ei=R7j2U8elI46fyATbuYLIAQ&tbm=isch&client=firefox-a&ved=0CFQQMyhMMEw4yAE&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=453&page=6&start=237&ndsp=48
[22:47:55] <zeeshan> my hammer
[23:09:22] <BellinganRoy> I think this depend on past search history
[23:09:49] <BellinganRoy> for example stuff I can easily find using my account is not on first page on other people account
