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[01:36:17] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[01:48:14] <anarchos> anyone have a used 5i25 for sale by chance?
[02:00:46] <Jymmm> Yes, $25 + $200 shipping
[02:01:00] <Jymmm> ... per mile
[02:03:58] <Deejay> moin
[02:30:10] <anarchos2> lol
[02:30:11] <anarchos2> \
[04:07:22] <IchGuckLive> hi all Morning europ
[04:07:45] <IchGuckLive> anarchos2: why dont you buy a new one its far cheeper then a used
[04:08:08] <IchGuckLive> anonimasu: ? still on thcud
[04:10:48] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: users are suposed to make errors to test the system stability
[04:11:45] <IchGuckLive> bonsbonjour JLuc69
[04:12:18] <IchGuckLive> ;-)
[04:12:28] <IchGuckLive> bonjour JLuc69_
[04:12:48] <JLuc69_> salut IchGuckLive
[04:13:00] <IchGuckLive> faire fonctionner la machine
[04:13:43] <JLuc69_> non, je ne suis pas retourné dans le garage depuis
[04:14:02] <IchGuckLive> eh bien
[04:14:51] <IchGuckLive> qui est déjà comme votre anglais
[04:15:50] <IchGuckLive> demain et dimanche sont 300 Français ici
[04:16:23] <IchGuckLive> Ã errer
[04:16:43] <JLuc69> I am the machine for knowledge, not for production :D
[04:17:07] <IchGuckLive> as you like
[04:17:35] <IchGuckLive> i did build 100 mashines for education
[04:17:55] <IchGuckLive> t give cnc knowledge to students
[04:17:56] <JLuc69> gratz
[04:18:32] <IchGuckLive> ok bye till later
[05:04:14] <Klaus-Krefeld> good morning ;-)
[05:23:07] <MrSunshine> hmm a positive helix spiral end mill for cutting mdf, will it mar the top surface or does mdf work with that? =)
[05:27:22] <JLuc69> a little, take a propeller preferably 0 degrees
[05:32:45] <MrSunshine> ?
[05:34:07] <JLuc69> take a right end mill :p
[06:30:29] <IchGuckLive> moin klaus
[06:30:47] <IchGuckLive> Klaus-Krefeld: gehts noch O.O
[06:32:01] <syyl_ws> iirc this is a english speaking channel
[06:32:25] <IchGuckLive> agrees on some points
[06:32:26] <Klaus-Krefeld> Hi ja ist alles okay :-)
[06:33:11] <IchGuckLive> MrSunshine: dont forget to go G41 with the tool flow not against the part
[06:33:33] <IchGuckLive> so mdf wiss stay sharp
[06:34:14] <IchGuckLive> like a circular saw cut
[06:35:02] <IchGuckLive> JLuc69: did you reatch the garage
[06:35:13] <Klaus-Krefeld> I also try to improve diligently my English ;-)
[06:35:39] <IchGuckLive> its for far better then the most german try here
[06:36:03] <Klaus-Krefeld> I hope this was right
[06:36:49] <IchGuckLive> spelling is quite a challange , but meaning is always a guess
[06:37:06] <JLuc69> IchGuckLive, no bad weather
[06:37:40] <IchGuckLive> as here outside the world is going to get dark at noon rain like a monsoon
[06:38:05] <Klaus-Krefeld> ;-)
[06:39:18] <IchGuckLive> im off bye till later
[07:20:09] <GUI_> hi
[07:20:33] <GUI_> i want to try this chat
[07:20:55] <Tom_itx> seems you have succeeded
[07:21:10] <GUI_> because i build a cnc mill and now i am using linuxcnc
[07:21:14] <GUI_> yes thanks
[07:21:25] <GUI_> sorry for my english
[07:21:33] <GUI_> i hope you understand me
[07:23:34] <GUI_> now iam trying a little bit with axis and i have different problems. but i try to help me by myself. for the first time :-)
[07:27:29] <GUI_> ok for the first time iam lucky to get access to this chat, so now i go back working on my cnc and will come back later
[07:27:39] <GUI_> cu
[07:28:56] <archivist> lurk and learn
[07:29:21] <Tom_itx> should have said that quicker...
[07:31:38] <archivist> I only just came inside from door fitting!
[11:17:27] <ssi> hrm
[11:44:58] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[11:46:13] <Klaus-Krefeld> Hi :-)
[12:09:47] <IchGuckLive> not many posts tuday
[12:09:58] <IchGuckLive> some courios user
[12:22:51] <IchGuckLive> hi travalga
[12:23:25] <travalga> servus ich guck live
[12:24:29] <IchGuckLive> travalga:
http://ww3.cad.de/foren/ubb/uploads/Magic33_de/trafalgar_st.jpg
[12:24:47] <IchGuckLive> not realy the same as in london
[12:24:50] <IchGuckLive> but it is
[12:25:39] <travalga> very nise
[12:25:46] <travalga> nice sorry
[12:26:17] <IchGuckLive> are you in the UK
[12:26:56] <travalga> no im a german
[12:27:20] <IchGuckLive> ah ich sitz in kaiserslautern
[12:27:21] <travalga> an my englich is verx possible
[12:27:51] <travalga> fein dann kannst ja sicher auch bayrisch
[12:29:45] <travalga> hast du eine ahnung von heekscnc?
[12:29:57] <IchGuckLive> coole frage
[12:30:18] <travalga> wieso bin ich dir zu nahe getreten ?
[12:30:47] <IchGuckLive> hit my nick please
[12:43:29] <ssi> IchGuckLive:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t1.0-9/10592768_10100451415711802_5894906082093122345_n.jpg
[12:43:38] <ssi> IchGuckLive:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10424231_10100451411560122_8360694036607109705_n.jpg?oh=446ef4c1f54d286f0f6a3fb1c9f9eac8&oe=545D7928&__gda__=1417150807_0995d3d5311849279b4477f9e3c3f566
[12:43:42] <ssi> heheh
[12:43:59] <IchGuckLive> you are the hero
[12:49:19] <IchGuckLive> ssi whats the time on that and some size
[12:56:32] <cpresser> ssi: awesome
[12:57:54] <CaptHindsight> is that real plywood or fauxwood?
[13:01:27] <IchGuckLive> ssi now you can go x-mas store sellings
[13:09:21] <ssi> IchGuckLive: it's a 6" arc, overall it's about 9" top to bottom, the plate is 8.5"x16" and took 33 minutes to cut at 10ipm
[13:09:26] <ssi> it's made of 3/16" sandeply
[13:09:44] <ssi> I dunno if that qualifies as "fauxwood", but it's made of trees :P
[13:10:12] <ssi> I can likely cut the sandeply quite a bit faster than 10ipm, but I wanted it to cut all the way through reliably
[13:10:17] <ssi> that's with 40W and a 2" focal length
[13:11:36] <dr0w> the SLAm stepper controllers from piclist.com look like a pretty affordable option, anyone have experiences with these?
[13:12:41] <archivist> url?
[13:13:03] <dr0w> http://www.piclist.com/techref/io/stepper/SLAm/SLAm_bld.htm
[13:13:52] <archivist> unipolar is a bit silly these days
[13:15:21] <dr0w> from standpoint of more bang for the buck from bipolar steppers?
[13:17:46] <archivist> internally all steppers are almost the same just the internal wiring is different you can wire an 8 wire motor as any of the other types basically
[13:17:56] <CaptHindsight> dr0w: I though you had drivers and cannibalized motors from something
[13:19:24] <dr0w> the MAXNC controller is lackluster in the performance department.
[13:19:33] <CaptHindsight> dr0w:
http://www.pololu.com/product/1182 and cheap nema17 motors to play with are also around $10 new
[13:20:14] <Tom_itx> http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/5pcs-NEMA17-78-Oz-in-CNC-stepper-motor-stepping-motor-1-8A/704350_554160664.html
[13:20:16] <dr0w> man.. though are tiny
[13:20:17] <Tom_itx> or these
[13:20:45] <Tom_itx> those are the strongest NEMA17 i've found so far
[13:25:50] <Loetmichel> *gnah* PC psu smoked off... in the middle of a elite dangerous game ... good that i always have spares... now its a 450W seasonic instead of the 400W "chinese cheapest" ... maybe that lasts a little longer;-)
[13:31:36] <Jymmm> Seasonic are pretty good, what server did you pull it from =)
[13:31:54] <CaptHindsight> http://www.progressiveautomations.com/ low cost lead screw lighter load positioners
[13:34:45] <kfoltman> hi Loetmichel
[13:37:15] <kfoltman> Tom_itx: based on specs or in practice?
[13:41:43] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: we have them at the company
[13:41:55] <Loetmichel> this now running is one that was spare
[13:42:03] <Loetmichel> so i could get it for free
[13:42:09] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: Ah, at 450W I suspect a 1U PS =)
[13:42:18] <Loetmichel> no, standard atx
[13:42:40] <Loetmichel> 1u psis are bad for gaming pcs... "whiiine!"
[13:42:52] <Jymmm> lol
[13:43:01] <Loetmichel> thats annoying enough in my cnc box
[13:43:07] <Jymmm> What 15,000 RPM fans are "silent" ;)
[13:43:34] <kfoltman> Jymmm: water cooled ones?
[13:43:58] <Jymmm> kfoltman: It was a joke, they're 110dBa
[13:44:12] <Jymmm> LOUD AS FUCK!
[13:44:23] <kfoltman> Jymmm: probably as 'silent' as a 15k RPM spindle ;)
[13:44:35] <Jymmm> kfoltman: louder actually
[13:44:47] <kfoltman> ok, 15k dremel ;)
[13:44:50] <Jymmm> because you usually have 4-6 of them running
[13:45:02] * kfoltman wouldn't mind a 6 spindle CNC
[13:45:09] <archivist> I have held a 60k rpm spindle in my hand, amazingly quiet
[13:45:11] <kfoltman> unless those were 6 dremels
[13:45:26] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: tell me... the two(!) 40mm fans in my CNC psu make a BIT of noise at 8000 rom
[13:45:28] <Loetmichel> rom
[13:45:31] <Loetmichel> rpm
[13:45:44] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12250
[13:45:49] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12247
[13:45:55] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12265
[13:45:58] <Loetmichel> thats my CNC pc
[13:45:59] <Jymmm> kfoltman: When I had my server in the datacenter, I knew which cabinet it was in because I could hear it above all the hundreds of others.
[13:46:33] <kfoltman> Loetmichel: my CNC is fairly silent except for the motor whine (when it's not actually doing anything of course, then you have motor sounds + spindle noise)
[13:46:47] <kfoltman> Loetmichel: crap chinese 24V PSU + arduino instead of a PC ;)
[13:46:55] <Loetmichel> i meant the PC, not the cnc itseld
[13:47:02] <Loetmichel> itself
[13:47:11] <Loetmichel> the machine is very wuiet, too
[13:47:14] <Loetmichel> quiet
[13:47:44] <kfoltman> Loetmichel: well, arduino replaces the PC, so it's even quieter ;)
[13:47:50] <kfoltman> no cooling required
[13:47:57] <kfoltman> of course, the g-code implementation is very limited
[13:48:03] <Loetmichel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Ov69t0uwo
[13:48:22] <Loetmichel> so, kfoltman: you are not using linuxCNC?
[13:48:28] <Loetmichel> why here then?
[13:48:36] <kfoltman> Loetmichel: I plan to, at some point
[13:48:46] <kfoltman> Loetmichel: I even have beaglebone set up for that
[13:48:46] <Loetmichel> btw: anyone tried to run linuxCNC on a raspberry?
[13:49:00] <kfoltman> Loetmichel: with machinekit and network etc.
[13:49:23] <kfoltman> Loetmichel: will have to mill a cape though, and find the UI that doesn't stink
[13:57:39] <Klaus-Krefeld> bye ;-) have a nice Weekend :-)
[14:09:54] <Jymmm> This is a gut hook that's also used as a SAFETY "rescue knife" used to cut line, cord, webbing, etc.
http://www.blasterstool.com/images/products/detail/Gerber%20Hook%20Ceramic%20Blade%201.jpg
[14:10:50] <Jymmm> It used drywall blades, but the issue is reports have that it breaks at/near the screwhole. or at the neck.
[14:12:01] <Jymmm> I really dont have metal working capacilities (per se), but can anyone think of a way to recreate this so that it's durable in a rescue situation?
[14:12:30] <Jymmm> I'd also like to add some sort of "anvil" it as all possible
[14:13:18] <Jymmm> as the "sliding" action isn't as effective as a guiltine actine would be
[14:14:52] <Jymmm> action*
[16:26:09] <Deejay> gn8
[18:08:24] <Tom_itx> Jymmm, change the blade angle and thicken the webbing inside the plastic housing
[18:09:20] <Tom_itx> make it from carbon fiber?
[18:10:14] <anarchos2> where can i find the last release of EMC that was under public domain?
[18:10:21] <Jymmm> Can't really change the angle too much. I was considering CF, but the sample I saw did twist a bit under force.
[18:10:35] <Tom_itx> anarchos2 you mean the GOVT ver?
[18:10:36] <Jymmm> anarchos2: nist.gov
[18:10:46] <Tom_itx> ^^
[18:12:07] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: If I could find a material I could cut n the laser, then layer together (like a transformer or master padlock) that would work
[18:12:29] <anarchos2> was there much development after the government released the source into the public domain before the switch to GPL?
[18:12:37] <Tom_itx> i could take a pic of a letter opener of similar design with a different blade angle
[18:13:01] <CaptHindsight> anarchos2: try asking on the mail list
[18:13:10] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: This has to be able to cut instantly rope and webbing from 1/4" to 3/4" thick
[18:13:46] <Tom_itx> US Pat Design #DES. 421889
[18:14:15] <Tom_itx> well i'm saying the angle is wrong
[18:14:28] <Jymmm> how so?
[18:14:39] <Jymmm> Yes that is for gutting game
[18:14:56] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: sewing mahine?
[18:15:05] <Tom_itx> ?
[18:15:06] <Jymmm> http://www.google.com/patents/US421889
[18:15:34] <Tom_itx> no, it's some cheap letter opener handout
[18:15:53] <Jymmm> Oh, those credit card sized ones
[18:16:06] <Tom_itx> yeah
[18:16:23] <Jymmm> http://www.oneinhundred.com/upfiles/upimg1/Letter-opener-in-100--US-corn--4995401.jpg
[18:16:43] <Tom_itx> quite similar yes
[18:16:44] <Jymmm> Ok, I see what ou're saying
[18:16:53] <Tom_itx> the blade is layed back more
[18:17:07] <Tom_itx> so it shears along the blade as it enters
[18:17:25] <Jymmm> Right, but those have a very narrow path (finger safety), and won't do 1/2" diameter line
[18:18:24] <Jymmm> If possible, I could even add a anvil and plier type action
[18:18:35] <Jymmm> hang on let me find pic
[18:19:01] <Tom_itx> stuff a motor inside with a round blade on an angle drive
[18:19:14] <Jymmm> haha
[18:20:00] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: shaped charge
[18:20:10] <Jymmm> something like this sorta
http://profibarkacs.hu/shop_ordered/3767/pic/4197000.jpg
[18:20:23] <Jymmm> a hybrid of the two
[18:20:39] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: polymer ropes?
[18:20:47] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: yes
[18:20:56] <SpeedEvil> Bolt-cutters with sharpened blades would do it
[18:21:16] <SpeedEvil> I should read backscroll
[18:21:36] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: like cutting line off persons; so cant' cut a person
[18:21:38] <SpeedEvil> By 'sharpened' - i just mean to a rough point, not actually sharp
[18:21:45] <SpeedEvil> ah
[18:21:46] <Jymmm> http://media1.rsdelivers.cataloguesolutions.com/MediumProductImages/R405329-91.jpg This is what I have and works GREAT
[18:21:54] <SpeedEvil> So it's for bondage that's gone wrong/
[18:22:01] <SpeedEvil> you're employed at a sex-dungeon?
[18:22:10] <Tom_itx> what did the mafia use to sever fingers... that would also work.
[18:22:39] <Jymmm> hahah, yeah, and rescue, or climbers, or anyoen else that is around lines
[18:22:46] <SpeedEvil> more seriously - heated cutters are used for this too
[18:22:52] <Tom_itx> the flat blad won't work as good
[18:22:57] <Tom_itx> blade*
[18:23:08] <Jymmm> the flat blade against an anvil works perfect
[18:23:16] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: this is for a standalone hand-tool without power?
[18:23:16] <Tom_itx> i have one
[18:23:29] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: yes, like EMT's, etc
[18:23:54] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: i'd wonder if you could find a flat anvil type geared seccateur
[18:24:06] <Jymmm> geared what?
[18:24:21] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8-Pruner-Pruning-Secateurs-Shears-Garden-Plants-Cutter-/321101422685?pt=UK_Home_Garden_GardenEquipment_HandTools_SM&hash=item4ac322e05d
[18:24:22] <Tom_itx> pvc pipe cutter
[18:24:24] <SpeedEvil> - not this type
[18:24:57] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PRECISION-8-BRASS-ANVIL-GARDEN-SECATEURS-PRUNING-SHEARS-SK5-STEEL-NON-STICK-/141352993662?pt=UK_Home_Garden_GardenEquipment_HandTools_SM&hash=item20e94b837e
[18:25:15] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: Ah, I tried the ones you are thinking of last night, Tey made #7 on the list of 11
[18:25:21] <SpeedEvil> There are 'pump' geared ones
[18:25:35] <SpeedEvil> For people with weaker hands or bigger twigs
[18:26:03] <Jymmm> What I'm saying with the drywall balde and an avil, no pumping, sawing, chewing is needed. it cuts instantly and every strand too
[18:26:54] <SpeedEvil> well, in that case, a sharp seccateur of the above sort should work fine
[18:27:00] <Tom_itx> http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/plumbing/plumbing-tools/pipe-tube-cutters/gre-864-pvc-cutter-1-14?infoParam.campaignId=T9F&gclid=CjwKEAjw37afBRDO5M3h0qvj9zQSJACvwnOJLIhkjZANoc9HlZk2_mMyBf6rMIbJcTe2iYhmrVrOFxoCxE3w_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
[18:27:36] <SpeedEvil> That does not have a hard anvil
[18:27:45] <Tom_itx> no
[18:28:01] <SpeedEvil> it may cut most of the rope, but a substantial amount will be pressed into the groove, and not cut
[18:28:37] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SPEAR-AND-JACKSON-MEDIUM-ANVIL-SECATEURS-RAZORSHARP-ANVILL-SECATEURS-/131246408382?pt=UK_Home_Garden_GardenEquipment_HandTools_SM&hash=item1e8ee542be - even with a nice safety
[18:28:47] <Jymmm> I tink if I get the right angle, I could make a tapered and the back side be fixed anvil, and the sliding motion be the cutting action
[18:29:18] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: I'd like to see those opn
[18:31:10] <SpeedEvil> I suspect a good pair of boltcutters will work just fine
[18:31:17] <SpeedEvil> And be flexible for other stuff
[18:31:21] <Jymmm> lol
[18:38:50] <Jymmm> I can see a rock climber 200fr up on a cliff side with a pair of 36" bolt cutters hanging off their belt =)
[18:38:57] <Jymmm> 200 feet
[18:39:50] <SpeedEvil> 18" 'd be fine
[18:40:06] <Jymmm> lol
[20:37:20] <tjtr33> CaptHindsight, ever use a tracing arm on a cnc?
[20:37:31] <tjtr33> it plots a 2D program, just a stick out on the axis carrying the wkpc, over a pc of paper.
[20:37:43] <tjtr33> IF you put a pc of paper down with a reflective area, the machine could read the reflection
[20:37:44] <tjtr33> and a HAL or Ladder function could react to the 'fence'
[20:38:15] <tjtr33> maybe useful for your request for extra 'limits'
[20:51:25] <CaptHindsight> tjtr33: lets say you have a system with a T shaped work envelope vs a rectangular or spherical
[20:57:13] <tjtr33> yeah, so a pc of paper would have shiny where the T was _not_, and an opt pickup would notice if the current posn was shiny or not, and do 'something' accordingly
[20:57:53] <tjtr33> ( first, do you get how the pencil ploter works as a simple arm on the joint holding the workpiece? )
[20:58:00] <CaptHindsight> tjtr33: it needs to be programmable based on the DRO
[20:58:26] <CaptHindsight> I can do it with external logic
[20:58:39] <tjtr33> numerical? then its 'inside the boundry' time with Hal.
[20:59:39] <tjtr33> maybe ladder, but i goto hal before ladder, but thats just me
[21:00:02] <CaptHindsight> they are starting to use Linuxcnc for controlling all sorts of automation, so it's going to come up soon
[21:00:37] <tjtr33> yeah, externbal logic can read the scales simultaneous and issue ok/nokay
[21:00:56] <CaptHindsight> it's been less work to work with EMC than to write a new app just to control some custom machine
[21:02:36] <tjtr33> have you triggered Linuxcnc to run a pgm from some external signal?
[21:03:18] <tjtr33> i suppose just external start btn would do that
[21:03:29] <tjtr33> but i havent done it mahsef
[21:06:03] <tjtr33> halui.program.run bit in pin for running a program
[21:06:11] <tjtr33> easy peasy
[21:06:54] <tjtr33> and monitor halui.program.is-running bit out till its done
[21:06:57] <CaptHindsight> laboratory automation
[21:08:20] <tjtr33> hehe just peeked at some arduino labview stuff, they have arduino modules now for graphic programming
[22:13:41] <skunkworks_> mach3 single index threading works just fine... But won't be added to mach4 - if at all it will use an encoder..
[22:13:43] <skunkworks_> http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,27194.msg195962.html#msg195962
[22:15:57] <skunkworks_> (printer port)
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