#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-08-04

[02:24:06] <Deejay> moin
[07:47:38] <PetefromTn_> morning folks!
[07:48:04] <XXCoder2> hey
[07:49:46] <PetefromTn_> well kids are in school and I got the shop to myself today so maybe I can get something done here after breakfast LOL
[07:50:19] <jdh> put away teh internette pr0n and start cutting
[07:50:42] <PetefromTn_> hehe
[07:50:50] <PetefromTn_> need to wean man.
[07:51:17] <jdh> is that what you call it.
[07:51:19] <PetefromTn_> my porn unfortunately is watching videos of multi axis high end CNC's making impossible parts quickly LOL
[07:51:24] <jdh> nice.
[07:52:00] <XXCoder2> lol
[07:53:59] <PetefromTn_> it is a beautiful morning here today. Nice and cool and sunny with not a cloud in the sky.
[07:54:17] <jdh> it's been raining here since thursday
[07:54:19] <PetefromTn_> we are supposed to get more normal temps later this week but right now I am enjoying it.
[07:55:28] <PetefromTn_> I cannot tell you how nice it is to finally have a brand new sink and counter top in our kitchen all hooked up and plumbed properly. It really is a pain in the ass without it while we were working on the base cabinets.
[07:55:42] <skunkworks> heh
[07:55:57] <skunkworks> washing dishes in the bath tub... been there...
[07:56:03] <skunkworks> ;)
[07:56:25] <XXCoder2> lol
[07:56:40] <PetefromTn_> yeah well we did have the dishwasher hooked up and an impromptu setup for the drain but just not being able to wash your damn hands or whatever is a real bitch.
[07:57:35] <PetefromTn_> I have been eyeballing that old stainless kitchen sink and trying to decide if I want to build a cabinet for the shop and stick it out there so I have a nice place to wash my hands etc while I am working.
[07:57:55] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/house/kitchenalmost3.JPG
[07:58:10] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/house/kitchenalmost2.JPG
[07:58:28] <skunkworks> small kitchen.. was pobaby 6 years ago. still in nice shape.
[07:58:42] <PetefromTn_> Not sure I want to deal with all the plumbing for taht.
[07:58:44] <PetefromTn_> that
[07:58:49] <PetefromTn_> nice skunkie!
[07:58:55] <PetefromTn_> Did you build those cabinets yourself?
[07:59:08] <skunkworks> no - they where re-used
[07:59:14] <PetefromTn_> our kitchen is pretty small actually.
[07:59:22] <XXCoder2> nice
[07:59:35] <PetefromTn_> our house is a cape cod style where everything is kinda tall and narrow LOL
[07:59:40] <XXCoder2> kitchen here is siz3e of walk in closet
[07:59:44] <PetefromTn_> even the damn doorways are tall and narrow.
[07:59:52] <XXCoder2> 6'x8' I think
[08:00:33] <PetefromTn_> my cabinets are actually just the original typical oak ones they put in a lot of houses around here.
[08:01:22] <PetefromTn_> But we are rebuilding them and embellishing them with trim and then refinishing them with a cream color paint with a hand glazed van dyke brown and then two coats of water based urethane clear coat.
[08:02:16] <PetefromTn_> Kind of a pain in the ass but it is ultimately cheaper that building all new cabinets. If we planned to live here permanently it would be different I would build a killer kitchen from scratch but since we are trying to sell it I am just gonna make what it already there as nice as possible.
[08:03:08] <PetefromTn_> I am quite sure that is why our house has not sold yet. Nobody likes an ugly kitchen LOL.
[08:03:31] <PetefromTn_> so these modifications and work will hopefully make the difference and get our house sold soon.
[08:04:04] <PetefromTn_> I still have to take down the wall cabinets and rework them now. Also gotta install the new toe kick fascia boards I finished recently.
[08:04:31] <PetefromTn_> Then we are trying to decide if we want to machine all new doors and drawer fronts or just refinish the original ones.
[08:05:22] <PetefromTn_> I have a nice wood shaper so making new doors is pretty easy really. I can make beautiful raised panel doors or whatever really with it. I have quite a few different profiles here too.
[08:07:29] <PetefromTn_> Well I better crank up this machine and start making some damn chips here. Talk later guys.
[08:09:54] <skunkworks> these where hickory and in good shape so we re-used them. The only thing that could be re-varnished is the nosing around the front edge of the counter top.
[08:39:46] <FinboySlick> Good morning people.
[10:47:06] <JT-Shop> anyone using verizon mifi?
[10:53:17] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: any chance you could organize some mesh network in your area to get better internet access?
[10:54:49] <JT-Shop> what's a mesh network?
[10:55:10] <CaptHindsight> wifi network with repeaters
[10:55:54] <CaptHindsight> how far would you have to go to get to a fast fiber or cable connection?
[10:56:05] <JT-Shop> no one has anything but satellite out here
[10:56:37] <JT-Shop> one neighbor about a 1/2 mile away just got mifi, we have a new Verizon tower about 2 miles from here now
[10:56:46] <ssi> how far is it til cable is available?
[10:56:58] <ssi> there are high power point to point wireless links
[10:57:12] <JT-Shop> unknown
[10:57:13] <CaptHindsight> http://www.bitstorm.com/fcc-regulations/
[10:57:39] <JT-Shop> there is a cable about 2 miles from here but it's not hooked to anything yet
[10:58:07] <JT-Shop> some kind of money waster scam they run cable all over the place but don't provide any service
[10:58:28] <CaptHindsight> we had fiber running across the front of the property line with no access for years
[10:58:35] <JT-Shop> point to point fails here because of the trees and hills
[10:58:45] <ssi> there was some law or federal initiative to run broadband to some absurdly high percentage of rural america
[10:58:47] <CaptHindsight> well $1200/mo for 10/10mb
[10:59:16] <JT-Shop> I had to put up a 40' tower to get point to point then the guy next to the isp tower made them take it down
[10:59:30] <JT-Shop> ssi, yea that is it
[10:59:32] <ssi> :/
[11:00:38] <JT-Shop> I pay $60/month for 10Gb
[11:00:55] <JT-Shop> the turds say I've used 24% already this month
[11:01:33] <ssi> terrible
[11:01:43] <CaptHindsight> in 4 days?!
[11:01:48] <JT-Shop> I need to download everything between 12am and 5am
[11:01:58] <JT-Shop> yea WTF is what I say
[11:02:02] <ssi> do you get better rates off peak or something?
[11:02:16] <JT-Shop> ?
[11:02:42] <ssi> if it's a flat 10G/mo, why does downloading in the wee hours help?
[11:03:00] <JT-Shop> ah unmetered during those hours
[11:03:04] <ssi> ahh ok
[11:03:19] <ssi> then yes, I'd be sucking every last drop of bandwidth possible during those hours :)
[11:03:22] <ssi> cache the internet from 12-5
[11:03:23] <ssi> haha
[11:03:25] <JT-Shop> only Jymmm is up at that time so they don't care
[11:03:46] <ssi> haha
[11:03:59] <JT-Shop> that's why I need to download files at night
[11:04:11] <CaptHindsight> if you have a spare PC you could install IPFire or vnStat or similar to log your connections and bandwidth
[11:05:07] <JT-Shop> does that keep you from using the computer?
[11:05:51] <CaptHindsight> heh, well you can see what is actually being transferred
[11:06:05] <JT-Shop> just looking at vnstat now
[11:08:36] <JT-Shop> can vnstat monitor my whole LAN?
[11:08:41] <CaptHindsight> running adblock and flashblock help a bit to cut down wasted bits
[11:09:58] <jdh> my router will monitor traffic usage
[11:10:26] <CaptHindsight> it could if you use one PC as a router with 2 nic's, one nic to internet, the other nic to the rest of your network
[11:10:30] <JT-Shop> yea, I'm running adblock now
[11:10:54] <JT-Shop> ok, what is a nic?
[11:11:02] <CaptHindsight> network card
[11:11:13] <JT-Shop> I just sorted that out LOL
[11:11:48] <JT-Shop> I could do that the way I've wired the shop
[11:12:07] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ipfire.org/ you could also use one PC as a firewall and network monitor
[11:12:47] <CaptHindsight> they have a bunch of utils in there for monitoring and throttling traffic
[11:13:53] <FinboySlick> JT-Shop: Might also want to look into openwrt if you want to centralize monitoring.
[11:13:59] <JT-Shop> I need to look into doing that, I just got a spare PC
[11:14:12] <FinboySlick> JT-Shop: What are you using as a router now?
[11:14:19] <jdh> does your current router not do that?
[11:14:22] <FinboySlick> (for once I can be useful to the conversation)
[11:14:48] <JT-Shop> an 8 port dlink
[11:15:02] <CaptHindsight> FinboySlick: besides hours of amusement? :p
[11:15:02] <FinboySlick> JT-Shop: You sure it's a router and not a switch?
[11:15:35] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: what does verizon charge for mifi?
[11:16:16] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: The OpenWRT bit you mean?
[11:16:29] <JT-Shop> no, the dlink won't show usage like the other one I have will but it is only 4 port
[11:16:51] <JT-Shop> DIR632 Router
[11:17:02] <JT-Shop> CaptHindsight, have not figured that out yet
[11:17:35] <JT-Shop> my neighbor said it is really fast compared to sat, but didn't kno w the cost or limits
[11:18:42] <JT-Shop> I have a netgear n300 that I can put between the 8 port and the modem and netgear will show usage
[11:19:48] <FinboySlick> JT-Shop: I haven't seen a 8 port consumer router since the late 90s. I'd be very curious to hear what model it is.
[11:20:01] <JT-Shop> <JT-Shop> DIR632 Router
[11:20:02] <FinboySlick> Oh, damn.
[11:20:06] <FinboySlick> Sorry.
[11:20:09] <JT-Shop> np
[11:20:47] <FinboySlick> I have to go for lunch. I'll have a look later though.
[11:21:22] <JT-Shop> me too
[11:30:25] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: if the router application logs connections and usage then yes
[11:32:40] <CaptHindsight> http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/d-link/dir-632 in the dangerous Alpha stage
[11:39:04] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: the standard software does some logging but if it might not have enough memory to track an entire month
[11:39:46] <jthornton> ouch the mifi cost $120 a month for 10Gb
[11:44:58] <Jymmm> jthornton: what router do you have (brand and model#) ?
[11:45:23] <jthornton> <JT-Shop> <JT-Shop> DIR632 Router
[11:46:06] <jthornton> <JT-Shop> an 8 port dlink
[11:49:06] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[11:49:31] <ssi> hi
[12:03:32] <CaptHindsight> http://www.businessinsider.com/how-cable-companies-are-keeping-you-from-enjoying-fiber-2014-6
[12:09:29] <Jymmm> jthornton: You need traffic shaping / monitoring; hense openwrt or ddwrt, and maybe a new router. If you had an android device with two ethernet ports that would work great as android already has traffic monitoring built in. Basically you need to see/know what type of travvic is sucking everything down and then be able to manage/rate limit it.
[12:13:55] <Jymmm> jthornton: Some sort of smart caching proxy might help too, as it can download things you don't need "right now" for when you are unmetered. Also what TZ is that unmetered time period for?
[12:14:25] <jthornton> local I think
[12:15:21] <Jymmm> how fast is your connection?
[12:15:53] <Jymmm> jthornton: how fast is your connection?
[12:15:59] <jthornton> it varies with the weather a lot, sometimes 300 baud
[12:16:12] <jthornton> gotta run be back later
[12:16:25] <Jymmm> nevermind then
[12:16:57] <jthornton> gotta be at a customers place in a few minutes
[12:21:24] <CaptHindsight> yeah, satellite can really slow down with weather
[12:21:34] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: the plans look like this http://www.hughesnet.com/?page=Plans-Pricing
[12:22:12] <CaptHindsight> http://www.wildbluesales.com/
[12:23:00] <CaptHindsight> http://www.exedeinternet.com
[12:23:44] <CaptHindsight> http://www.starband.com/services/index.html
[12:26:46] <jdh> invite google to run fiber to the farm... or a blimp
[12:35:43] <IchGuckLive> hi to the new people just joint
[12:36:01] <IchGuckLive> question about cnc or linuxcnc just ask
[12:36:24] <lair82_> cmorley , Hey had a question for you, I know Norbert has had some things come up, and knowing how close you guys worked together on gscreen/gmoccapy I was wondering, the onscreen messages that can be configured in the INI file in gscreen, what would cause that feature to not be available in gmoccapy
[12:37:40] <cmorley> Norbert
[12:37:47] <cmorley> he likes his better
[12:38:01] <cmorley> :)
[12:38:23] <cmorley> I gotta go sorry tty
[12:38:51] <lair82_> Ok
[12:49:33] <IchGuckLive> im off BYE BBQ outside
[16:01:18] <tehcereal> hello i have a simple question
[16:01:50] <tehcereal> if for example my mill thinks it goes 36cm
[16:02:01] <tehcereal> and in reality it goes 36.2mm
[16:02:32] <tehcereal> 36.2cm* i should lower the scale in the .ini document
[16:02:48] <tehcereal> so it goes 0.2cm to far
[16:02:59] <FinboySlick> It *may* not be a scale problem with an error like this.
[16:03:15] <tehcereal> got it
[16:03:19] <tehcereal> but im asking
[16:03:24] <tehcereal> if the maschine overshoots
[16:03:35] <tehcereal> i am suposed to lower the scale
[16:03:45] <FinboySlick> There are other things that could cause your machine to overshoot.
[16:04:59] <FinboySlick> I don't know what your setup looks like but inertia might be an issue here.
[16:05:19] <FinboySlick> Have you tested backlash?
[16:07:39] <FinboySlick> tehcereal: Are you running ballscrew, acme screw, belt, rack/pinion?
[16:30:12] <Deejay> gn8
[18:13:50] <CaptHindsight> http://3dprintingindustry.com/2014/08/04/3d-printed-organ-evolution-continues-bioassemblybot/ checkout their user interface
[18:13:58] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: ^^
[18:15:12] <CaptHindsight> http://www.bioassemblybot.com/
[18:17:03] <CaptHindsight> heh TSIM = 3d CAM for organs and tissues
[18:17:39] <PetefromTn_PC> interesting. what about the interface?
[18:17:46] <CaptHindsight> 6-axis somehow tied into autodesk I bet
[18:18:16] <PetefromTn_PC> what no solidworks heart printing going on?
[18:18:26] <PetefromTn_PC> blasphemy..LOL
[18:27:33] <CaptHindsight> it's just a 6 axis robot with a custom GUI
[18:28:37] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1WXK3rKvsU
[18:28:40] <PetefromTn_PC> yup that is basically what it looks like.
[18:30:24] <CaptHindsight> plus it's hanging from a rickety t-slot frame
[18:32:38] <CaptHindsight> looks like maybe ~2" for the corners
[18:33:00] <PetefromTn_PC> probably would not want MY heart printed on that piece of shit huh LOL
[18:35:19] <CaptHindsight> look at the heart valve at 1:11
[18:35:45] <CaptHindsight> it looks like it crashed into the part a few times
[18:37:07] <PetefromTn_PC> yeah but someone who does not understand what they are looking at thinks it is a miracle LOL.
[18:39:36] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyNd_WeGJNI hey look at this new machine I made!
[18:40:11] <PetefromTn_PC> damn that was a hard crash...
[18:45:02] <Tom_itx> somebody didn't pre test that one
[18:45:15] <PetefromTn_PC> what no air cuts hehee
[18:51:52] <CaptHindsight> I wonder if they started from scratch on their 6-axis CAM
[19:06:05] <XXCoder2> heys
[19:06:20] <XXCoder2> 150k cheap for mad scientists
[19:16:55] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: video removed
[19:17:46] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: android tablet?
[19:17:54] <XXCoder2> ow crash indeed
[19:33:38] <XXCoder2> CaptHindsight: reminds me of last thursday
[19:33:50] <XXCoder2> coworker of mine was cutting one part manually using cnc machine
[19:34:52] <XXCoder2> unfortinately at one point he forgot to switch Z to X so he drilled into steel holders
[19:35:17] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: GUI for 6-axis organ printing robot $170K
[19:35:21] <XXCoder2> thankfully expensive koch (or something) thing wasnt damaged
[19:35:56] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: What, no windows8 interface?
[19:36:05] <XXCoder2> jeez $170k for just gui. For 170k I'd expect whole machine AND car to move it around in.,
[19:36:35] <Jymmm> I'd expect daily sexual favors
[19:36:42] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder2: the $170K 6-axis robot looks like it crashed into the heart vale it was printing
[19:36:56] <XXCoder2> jeez
[19:37:50] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: well that's with the robot, but still a 6-axis staubli that size is only $30K
[19:38:18] <CaptHindsight> so $140K for the work cell, GUI and CAM
[19:38:32] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: It's now a "medical device", that adds a comma to the price.
[19:38:53] <CaptHindsight> unregulated device at this time
[19:39:04] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: Well - you could just add the right end effector, and it could do that daily for you
[19:39:05] <XXCoder2> yeah
[19:39:10] <XXCoder2> surpised they didnt add another ,
[19:39:14] <XXCoder2> or 2
[19:39:14] <SpeedEvil> Just make sure you don't get your g-code wrong.
[19:39:37] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: I prefer the real thing, no virtual here tyvm
[19:40:46] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: http://www.bioassemblybot.com/ bottom of page for screen shots of GUI
[19:42:15] <CaptHindsight> do you really want to operate that from your smartphone while at the beach?
[19:42:44] <Jymmm> They have robotic surgery, so dont ask
[19:45:04] <CaptHindsight> http://store.advancedsolutions.com/p-162-bioassemblybot.aspx oh good they have a shopping cart
[19:45:38] <XXCoder2> usplastics has em cheap
[19:45:49] <XXCoder2> HOWEVER they will also send you religious crap in package
[19:46:13] <XXCoder2> I had to order thousands of ziplocs for my business and yeah got fun papers with it :P
[19:46:47] <CaptHindsight> from US Plastics?
[19:46:52] <XXCoder2> yeah
[19:47:08] <XXCoder2> they are prety good resource of many plastic stuff
[19:47:17] <XXCoder2> just throw away religious crap
[19:47:57] <CaptHindsight> http://www.usplastic.com these guys?
[19:48:07] <XXCoder2> yep
[19:48:19] <CaptHindsight> not jesusplastics.com :)
[19:48:20] <XXCoder2> no bioprinter but you menioned cart
[19:50:58] <XXCoder2> checked clearance. hoses would be awesome of zi needed em
[19:52:37] <Jymmm> Gawd, who woulda thought the American Flag would be such a pain to draw *sigh*
[19:54:03] <XXCoder2> jy not surpised. there is million details compared with many flags
[19:54:10] * LeelooMinai deports Jymmm to Libya
[19:54:11] <XXCoder2> its almost most complex flags.
[19:55:05] <Jymmm> XXCoder2: Not so much the complexity, as much as everything out there is design for print/screen. So I had to redraw everything per gubermint specs.
[19:55:38] <XXCoder2> I wonder what happens if canada joins :P
[19:55:53] <Jymmm> Poutine for all?
[19:56:01] <XXCoder2> we'd have to get rid of star per state thing or have really crowded blue area
[19:57:01] <Tom_itx> Jymmm, make sure you get a couple ripples in it too
[19:57:02] <Jymmm> Instead of an extra star for canada, could add a maple leaf.
[19:57:10] <XXCoder2> 12 maple leaves
[19:57:19] <Jymmm> XXCoder2: No, just one.
[19:57:24] <XXCoder2> 12 povicles there after all (heavily mangled spelling)
[19:57:24] <MC500> does anyone have an example of how to set up a Rotary axis in a .ini file? when I change from Linear to Rotary LinuxCNC wont start
[19:57:34] <Jymmm> XXCoder2: Nope, just one
[19:57:37] <MC500> in my case stg.ini
[19:57:52] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: That will be version two
[19:58:32] <Tom_itx> surely you can find that data somewhere on the interweb already
[19:58:55] <Tom_itx> then scale it to suit
[19:59:11] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Sure, you could http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States#mediaviewer/File:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg
[19:59:17] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: But it's crap
[19:59:31] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Again, drawn for screen/print
[20:02:01] <XXCoder2> 65 bucks for 25 feet roll of 3/8 dim fuel or lubricant tubing
[20:02:12] <XXCoder2> good deal? lol (not buying just wondering)
[20:03:50] <XXCoder2> http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=102681&catid=506 maybe great for oil drip or coolant blast
[20:11:29] <CaptHindsight> MC500: http://pastebin.com/9HkJLAA1
[20:11:48] <CaptHindsight> MC500: http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/17804-4th-axis-rotation-angle-limit-problem?start=18
[20:12:22] <CaptHindsight> there are working configs there you can use for reference, they use linear and angular axis
[20:30:46] <PetefromTn_Andro> evening people
[20:43:24] <PetefromTn_Andro> LOL damn phone....
[20:47:41] <PetefromTn_Andro> awful quiet in here
[20:54:21] <Tom_itx> cept some dude from Tn rattling his jaws
[20:55:57] <PetefromTn_Andro> hey man at least SOMEONE is rattling
[20:56:10] <Tom_itx> :)
[20:56:27] <Tom_itx> watchin street outlaws
[20:56:39] <PetefromTn_Andro> just watched a cool doccumentary on netflix
[20:57:07] <PetefromTn_Andro> it was about Laura Dekker.
[20:57:47] <PetefromTn_Andro> a 15 year old Dutch girl who circumnavigated the globe on a 38 foot ketch
[20:58:28] <XXCoder2> hey pete
[20:58:37] <PetefromTn_Andro> never ceases to amaze me how sea worthy a sailboat can be.
[20:58:47] <PetefromTn_Andro> wut
[20:59:09] <Tom_itx> it _is_ all there used to be once upon a time...
[20:59:33] <PetefromTn_Andro> when I was sixteen I lived in South Florida and I wanted to buy a 35 foot French sailboat to live on when I went to school
[21:00:15] <PetefromTn_Andro> I had some cash saved up and was ready to buy it but my mother pitched a fit and they talked me out of it.
[21:00:49] <PetefromTn_Andro> always been a dream of mine to live aboard a large sailboat.
[21:01:17] <PetefromTn_Andro> or at least own one large enough to sail the carribean etc.
[21:01:47] <PetefromTn_Andro> any of you guys sailors?
[21:04:40] <jdh> no, I'm hetero.
[21:05:02] <PetefromTn_Andro> LOL I doubt it
[21:06:15] <PetefromTn_Andro> so far the biggest sailboat I have owned was my six meter Nacra Racing Catamaran.
[21:06:39] <PetefromTn_Andro> but my wife hated that thing
[21:07:21] <PetefromTn_Andro> it is a bitch to raise and lower the mast and sail on it. its a kite basically made her nervous
[21:11:18] <PetefromTn_Andro> tough room.
[21:34:41] <XXCoder2> wonder what kind of IPM and rpm would be needed to engrave something like this http://www.homedepot.com/p/US-Marble-3-in-Cultured-Granite-Sample-Chip-in-Spice-Chip3020M/202568635
[21:39:00] <PetefromTn_Andro> probably use some kinda diamond bit I suppose.
[21:40:15] <XXCoder2> probably
[21:40:56] <jdh> http://raleigh.craigslist.org/hvo/4568460913.html
[21:41:08] <jdh> that would go well with your VMC
[21:46:34] <PetefromTn_Andro> who me?
[21:48:11] <PetefromTn_Andro> sorry I was sitting here having a little day/night dream about selling my whole damn house and machines and buying a sweet 45 foot sailboat and sailing around the carribean LOL
[21:48:29] <XXCoder2> I offer $500 for everything you has, shipped.
[21:48:33] <os1r1s> PetefromTn_Andro: I used to sail when I was in New Orleans
[21:48:53] <os1r1s> PetefromTn_Andro: We had races once a month that were a blast.
[21:48:55] <PetefromTn_Andro> Lo an behold there is life in here now!!
[21:49:02] <os1r1s> I miss it. Sailing the Carribean would be awesome
[21:49:45] <PetefromTn_Andro> I spent two and a half years sailing the carribean and into south America aboard the Coast Guard Cutter Steadfast
[21:50:19] <os1r1s> A friend of mine rents sailboats in the Keys once a year with friends
[21:50:38] <PetefromTn_Andro> we boarded many a vessel and I was always amazed at how far out we would find even small sailboats when it was many miles from land
[21:51:02] <PetefromTn_Andro> that would be awesome.
[21:51:06] <os1r1s> Got a picture of the boat you want?
[21:51:21] <PetefromTn_Andro> Naah just dreaming man
[21:51:24] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSTrH8nR_vg
[21:51:47] <PetefromTn_Andro> but a nice 38-40 footer sloop or ketch does not matter really
[21:52:16] <PetefromTn_Andro> just a nice liveaboard that is affordable
[21:53:19] <PetefromTn_Andro> we once met some folks from Sweden who did exactly what I dream of. they sold their house and everything and just bought a sweet sailboat and were sailing around the world.
[21:53:40] <os1r1s> PetefromTn_Andro: I've seen a ton of people do that with RVs
[21:53:52] <os1r1s> Not so many with sailboats, though I think that would be more fun
[21:53:57] <PetefromTn_Andro> we met them down south of Cuba and they were headed to Panama apparently
[21:54:28] <PetefromTn_Andro> I'm just not an RV person really
[21:54:41] <XXCoder2> you just prefer boatRV ;)
[21:55:18] <PetefromTn_Andro> I have always loved the ocean. not sure why we even moved here to Tennessee really but it is beautiful here.
[21:56:06] <CaptHindsight> you won't get very far by RV outside of North America and Europe
[21:56:26] <PetefromTn_Andro> probably never ever actually do it but I sure think about it a lot. Not sure how my wife would like it. I know my kids would love it tho.
[21:56:27] <CaptHindsight> unless by RV you mean a Landcruiser
[21:56:33] <os1r1s> PetefromTn_Andro: I used to Scuba Dive a ton. I miss that a lot too. So sailing and diving would be awesome
[21:57:03] <PetefromTn_Andro> yup I was an avid snorkeler and diver when we lived down in florida
[21:58:10] <os1r1s> Where in FL?
[21:58:37] <PetefromTn_Andro> it just is something I dream of and watching that 15 year old girl living the dream made me really think.
[21:58:51] <os1r1s> Grass is always greener
[21:58:59] <os1r1s> Can't fit a mill on a boat :P
[21:59:13] <PetefromTn_Andro> We were in the west palm beach and saint lucie county areas although I have also lived on the west coast.
[21:59:37] <PetefromTn_Andro> shit I would sell the mill and buy the boat in a second.
[21:59:53] <jdh> you and ssi can time-share a boat
[22:00:18] <PetefromTn_Andro> I need to try renting a nice sailboat and take my wife and kids for a good cruise so they can get a feel for it.
[22:00:35] <XXCoder2> pete where you be at
[22:00:46] <PetefromTn_Andro> yeah he did mention he enjoyed sailing huh.
[22:00:52] <jdh> and have them carry eerything they own for the vacation
[22:01:00] <PetefromTn_Andro> from TN of course lol
[22:01:01] <XXCoder2> oh duh
[22:02:04] <XXCoder2> yeah youre billion miles away from me pracality speaking
[22:02:04] <PetefromTn_Andro> what amazes me is how cheaply you can get a nice sailboat for if you look around and know what to look for.
[22:02:57] <PetefromTn_Andro> I mean $20k will get you a nice boat that maybe needs some work but is solid and decent.
[22:04:12] <PetefromTn_Andro> that girl and her dad apparently bought that boat she circumnavigated the globe in after it had sat for seven years in a yard LOL.
[22:04:57] <PetefromTn_Andro> who knows maybe I am just a crazy bastard dreamer. probably lol
[22:05:43] <XXCoder2> lol dunno
[22:05:44] * jdh nods
[22:05:58] <PetefromTn_Andro> well I gotta get to bed have parts to machine tomorrow and other stuff to do.
[22:06:39] <PetefromTn_Andro> maybe I will dream about a sailing voyage hehehe gn8 folks.
[22:11:47] <CaptHindsight> the first public dialup Internet Service Provider (ISP) on the planet http://theworld.com/
[22:12:34] <Tom_itx> we taking a step back to the bbs world?
[22:13:19] <XXCoder1> "Page last modified December 8, 2004."
[22:13:22] <XXCoder1> stone agwe
[22:13:24] <CaptHindsight> heh was almost the first dial up ISP
[22:13:45] <XXCoder1> I was aoler
[22:13:52] <XXCoder1> started in 1993
[22:14:13] <CaptHindsight> http://theworld.com/ started in 89
[22:14:26] <CaptHindsight> agora in Portland started in 85
[22:14:41] <anarchos> Well that was unexpected. I bought a soldering station on aliexpress, and the one I got was a counterfeit. A pretty good counterfeit (works well!) but fake none the less. I opened a dispute and the seller agreed to refund my the money, including shipping, without me having to send the unit back or anything!
[22:14:42] <XXCoder1> surpised website still up
[22:15:10] <anarchos> so...free fake soldering :D
[22:15:47] <CaptHindsight> anarchos: what brand unit were you expecting?
[22:15:54] <anarchos> Hakko
[22:16:26] <CaptHindsight> and what showed up Hako? :)
[22:16:46] <anarchos> heh, it's a very good fake. looks exactly like it, came in a hakko box and everything
[22:17:09] <CaptHindsight> they must know it's fake but want to keep their reputation up
[22:17:12] <anarchos> what tipped me off is that it was missing the port on the back for the optional auto-sleep iron holder...
[22:18:31] <anarchos> yeah...i sent a message to the seller saying "where's the sleep port? is this a fake?" not even sure if it was fake or if they just made a model without the port...and he replied "of course it's fake, made in china, for only $80 what do you expect?"
[22:18:46] <CaptHindsight> I have some of those. About the same as my old Weller's
[22:19:01] <CaptHindsight> LOL
[22:19:37] <XXCoder1> just opened disute on one small order
[22:19:49] <XXCoder1> order tracking just stopped before entering usa so yeah
[22:20:19] <anarchos> i suppose he has a point, it has a retail price of $259 USD or something, i got it for $43+37 DHL shipping
[22:20:46] <CaptHindsight> yeah for that price difference
[22:21:01] <anarchos> there's tons of them, and it looks really really real :P
[22:22:51] <CaptHindsight> Aoyue's are also low cost, not sure how long they last
[22:23:35] <CaptHindsight> but thats like most products designed there, they are built to last a short time and be low cost
[22:23:48] <anarchos> http://imgur.com/GnOd8jw vs http://www.hakko.com/english/images/products/products_hakko_fx951_img.jpg
[22:24:11] <CaptHindsight> they don't design tools to be handed down to the next generation
[22:26:09] <anarchos> i was thinking of opening it up and looking at the board inside, see how really simular or not it is
[22:26:25] <anarchos> could be a "made in the factory after hours" kinda thing
[22:27:25] <CaptHindsight> lots of that goes on, great deals
[22:27:41] <XXCoder1> whats weirdest thing you guys bought from aliexpress
[22:28:03] <CaptHindsight> I buy when I'm there
[22:28:39] <CaptHindsight> one of my first were sneakers with 3 different brand names on them
[22:29:05] <XXCoder1> mines solar phone charger lol
[22:29:13] <XXCoder1> it seems to work but didnt really test it
[22:29:26] <XXCoder1> probably can buy second one and use y cable for better amp
[22:34:02] <CaptHindsight> whats neat are the electronics markets, with unknown brand names in the west
[22:34:57] <CaptHindsight> quad core smart phones with all the bells a whistles for <$100 unlocked and dual sim
[22:35:12] <XXCoder1> hmm wonder if aliexpress has ereaders
[22:35:34] <XXCoder1> yep they do
[22:37:51] <XXCoder1> wow. nook products is flipping high in prices
[22:38:33] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder1: you want the e-paper type or just an LCD tablet?
[22:38:33] <anarchos> i bought a kobo mini touch at costco for $25
[22:38:38] <anarchos> best thing ever
[22:38:46] <XXCoder1> I has nst I bought for $40
[22:39:02] <anarchos> i use it just for travelling as i have a thing for packing effeciently and only with carryon (even on international trips)
[22:41:30] <XXCoder1> lol ok
[22:41:34] <XXCoder1> well gonna go for a bit
[22:45:40] <anarchos> i need to make dinner for the gf, i promised :P
[22:45:42] <anarchos> bbl
[22:51:10] <XXCoder1> back
[23:07:34] <XXCoder1> dammit
[23:07:45] <XXCoder1> with updated height my gantry is now 2 foot tall
[23:07:52] <XXCoder1> actually taller than it is wide and long
[23:09:26] <Tom_itx> it will fall over from being top heavy now
[23:10:32] <XXCoder1> sigh one of options is to remove gantry top
[23:10:36] <XXCoder1> it has bottom
[23:10:45] <XXCoder1> so height is still short
[23:12:39] <XXCoder1> yeah sounds like best option
[23:13:00] <XXCoder1> its not like z motor needs support besides good quality lamimated plywood
[23:16:54] <anarchos> https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction!input.action?tRef=qt&tLc=1&tLabels=CW710328086US
[23:17:57] <XXCoder1> huh
[23:18:30] <anarchos> last thing i need to "complete" my mill :D
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[23:21:34] <XXCoder1> nice
[23:21:36] <XXCoder1> dammit
[23:22:07] <XXCoder1> I found a error in my plan with Z axis. ballscrew is embedded in wood sheet
[23:22:15] <XXCoder1> would have to adjust it
[23:22:55] <XXCoder1> have to move it anyway because of have to move ballscrew upwards 1/4 inch so motor mounted can couple with it