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[00:09:26] <XXCoder1> back
[00:09:32] <XXCoder1> I couldnt remove chuck again
[00:09:40] <XXCoder1> its still not completely in too
[00:16:57] <tjtr33> toastyde1th, is he lookin at the exposed relief between the 2 tapers in your picture? ' <XXCoder1> looks like stright shaft but curves outwards? '
[00:17:22] <XXCoder1> theres 3 parts, the morse taper end
[00:17:24] <toastyde1th> who knows, that's why i want him to take pictures
[00:17:31] <toastyde1th> instead of playing 20 questions
[00:17:33] <XXCoder1> the small gap with smaller diameter
[00:17:45] <XXCoder1> then bit strange curve short end for chuck
[00:17:57] <XXCoder1> chuck isn't going all way to touch that small gap
[00:19:17] <XXCoder1> got pics of properly installed chuck?
[00:24:20] <XXCoder1> HMM
http://www.alloyavenue.com/vb/showthread.php?7895-Drill-Chuck-wont-stay-put
[00:27:50] <XXCoder1> from what I have read, I think I screwed up
[00:30:47] <tjtr33> pix
http://goo.gl/kmL4dc vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbI_7IHAsyw basic info 'clean it and the hole it goezinta'
[00:31:30] <XXCoder1> hmm
[00:31:42] <XXCoder1> this is basically I has
http://www.victornet.com/images/ArborDiagram.GIF
[00:31:57] <XXCoder1> jacob section looks bit strange
[00:32:02] <XXCoder1> probably not milled correctly
[00:32:28] <XXCoder1> half of t is stright and tapers out pretty fast then stright
[00:32:39] <XXCoder1> then that gap then morses
[00:37:03] <XXCoder1> took a pic, sec
[00:37:58] <XXCoder1> sorry my phone camera is old and crappy
[00:40:35] <XXCoder1> tjtr33: toastyde1th
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53432577/chuck.jpg
[00:40:49] <toastyde1th> k, and what part isn't going where
[00:41:00] <XXCoder1> chuck isnt in all way
[00:41:08] <toastyde1th> so you may have the wrong jacobs taper
[00:41:22] <XXCoder1> weird because its one come with new drill press
[00:41:26] <toastyde1th> the other alternative is that it's fine
[00:41:45] <XXCoder1> it seemed to drill just fine when it refused to be removed again
[00:41:52] <toastyde1th> if there's no screw holding it in place on the front end, it's just a friction fit
[00:41:59] <toastyde1th> and doesn't have to be any particular depth
[00:42:09] <XXCoder1> HMM so it should be fine
[00:42:10] <toastyde1th> if the drill is secure, there isn't a problem
[00:42:21] <syyl_> that looks perfectly fine
[00:42:44] <XXCoder1> I gonna get some acetone or something so I can clean other end and inside so it will be properly installed
[00:43:02] <toastyde1th> wat
[00:43:09] <XXCoder1> I used flat head drill bit and drilled pretty fast it held
[00:43:13] <XXCoder1> so its fine I guess
[00:43:17] <toastyde1th> tbh i woudln't fuck with it
[00:43:30] <toastyde1th> there's no reason to think it should go any deeper
[00:43:42] <XXCoder1> rag wipe clean enough for other end? (morse taper_
[00:43:43] <syyl_> just run it trough your hand before setting it in the spindle taper
[00:43:55] <syyl_> to be sure theres no dirt
[00:43:58] <XXCoder1> no issue there then. thanks
[00:44:20] <XXCoder1> tomorrow gonna finally complete my table saw table
[00:44:33] <XXCoder1> with that I can start making some jig just to get bit skills up
[00:50:05] <XXCoder1> thanks all
[01:02:13] <anarchos> anyone know of a good source for shielded 20/4 wire that doesn't charge ridiculous fees to ship to Canada?
[01:02:39] <XXCoder1> make your own? ;)
[01:03:58] <anarchos> i thought for sure aliexpress would have some, but i can't find any
[01:04:09] <anarchos> i might just not be hitting the right search terms, though
[01:04:36] <XXCoder1> try search terms "I have your family, gimme 20/4 wires"
[01:04:40] <XXCoder1> jk
[01:05:00] <XXCoder1> maybe wire and look though tons listing?
[01:06:49] <XXCoder1> using negative terms to bump off results you dont want
[01:07:00] <anarchos> yeah
[01:15:48] <anarchos> ooh found some on ebay
[01:16:04] <anarchos> $15 for 10 meters of 20ga 4 core wire...
[01:25:24] <XXCoder1> not bad I guess? 30 cent per foot rouggky
[01:25:28] <XXCoder1> roughly
[01:34:57] <anarchos> i realized it wasn't shielded, just a pvc cover :(
[01:37:58] <XXCoder1> oh drat
[01:39:43] <XXCoder1> night
[01:41:56] <anarchos> good night
[02:07:16] <zeeshan> anarchos
[02:07:23] <zeeshan> go to sayal electronics ?
[02:07:30] <zeeshan> theres where i got 20 gauge 4 wire, shielded
[02:07:44] <zeeshan> i remember it being fair priced
[02:18:38] <ssi> well that was ugly
[02:19:59] <zeeshan> ???
[02:20:18] <ssi> everything exploded in a giant cloud of smoke
[02:20:22] <ssi> must have run it too fast
[02:21:02] <zeeshan> what do u mean
[02:23:33] <ssi> you were right man
[02:23:35] <ssi> too much speed
[02:23:41] <ssi> huge explosion
[02:23:42] <ssi> cloud of smoke
[02:23:48] <zeeshan> what exploded
[02:23:53] <ssi> main power cable
[02:24:05] <zeeshan> the wire going to the power supply?
[02:24:10] <ssi> yeah
[02:24:15] <zeeshan> just replace it
[02:24:16] <zeeshan> :P
[02:24:23] <ssi> hoping it didn't take anything else out
[02:24:28] <ssi> it sounded like ww3
[02:24:28] <zeeshan> wait a sec.
[02:24:29] <ssi> haha
[02:24:34] <zeeshan> power supply specs?
[02:25:04] <ssi> it was a temporary power cable; really light gauge
[02:25:07] <zeeshan> oh
[02:25:08] <ssi> should have gotten around to replacing it sooner
[02:25:08] <zeeshan> :P
[02:25:19] <zeeshan> well im sure nothing else blew up
[02:25:22] <zeeshan> it just burned out
[02:25:28] <ssi> it melted and shorted to the frame
[02:25:34] * Jymmm takes away ssi laser tube and uses it as a baseball bat!
[02:25:47] <ssi> don't break muh toobz
[02:26:07] <zeeshan> eek
[02:26:11] <Jymmm> ssi: It's for your own good... you'll shoot your eye out kid!
[02:26:52] <ssi> nah I'd have done it by now
[02:27:26] <Jymmm> and if you keep playing with it, you'll go blind!
[02:28:11] <ssi> my intention is to put a fused IEC socket on it
[02:28:38] <ssi> but I wanted to get the laser running so it could cut its own backpanel first :P
[02:28:49] <ssi> lexan seems to cut like shit btw
[02:28:56] <ssi> I wish I'd gone by home depot and bought some acrylic earlier
[02:29:27] <Deejay> moin
[02:50:15] <ssi> phew, everything's fine
[02:57:22] <Jymmm> lick it to be sure
[03:01:11] <ssi> it tastes like burning
[03:19:32] <Jymmm> Well, I guess that's better than it tasted like chicken *shrug*
[04:11:03] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[04:21:37] <kfoltman> hi Loetmichel
[07:01:41] <RyanS> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=859YBxgpgPw#t=467 . What is the purpose?
[07:10:48] <Loetmichel> looking shiny
[07:14:08] <RyanS> car panel?
[07:14:22] <Loetmichel> seem so
[07:14:25] <Loetmichel> car door
[07:14:46] <Loetmichel> inner side
[07:14:52] <Loetmichel> i would suppose
[07:42:22] * JT-Shop laughs at craigslist scammers that text you tell you to respond to their email
[07:48:37] <Loetmichel> RyanS: also it would be orders of magnitude more rigd than the sheet metal he started with
[08:38:04] <The_Ball> 3
[09:14:53] <JT-Shop> spammers love to fish on my ad
http://semo.craigslist.org/tls/4551044642.html
[09:37:18] <archivist> JT-Shop, very useful toy, I used a similar xy rotary on a Boley jig mill
[09:38:11] <archivist> although built in and the xy are on top
[10:44:04] <ssi> JT-Shop: wow nice
[10:44:17] <XXCoder1> morning
[11:04:16] <PetefromTn_> morning folks.
[11:04:30] <XXCoder1> morning
[11:04:57] <PetefromTn_> whatsgoinon?
[11:05:06] <XXCoder1> just browsing'
[12:04:45] <CaptHindsight> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/jibo-the-world-s-first-family-robot $1,175,564USD raised of $100,000 goal 21 days left
[12:08:00] <pcw_home> More importantly, how is the potato salad going?
[12:09:23] <tjtr33> i been watching the jibo. cute idea. wonder if it really blinks, really sounds that good.
[12:09:24] <tjtr33> couple it to the 'follow me' from dr. who ( a tool cart that tags along after you ) :)
[12:12:20] <tjtr33> haha from HHG2G "we're the p[lastic pals that are fun to be with'
[12:13:35] <CaptHindsight> JIBO since your smartphone wasn't intruding enough into your personal life
[12:14:22] <eeriegeek> I don't know if I could resist the urge to punt it.
[12:14:36] <CaptHindsight> what great way to get right into every day family life
[12:15:28] <tjtr33> inet swamped with teen age girl selfies but automated!
[12:15:34] <CaptHindsight> this can track you even when you're not on a phone and interact with you every lonely moment of your life
[12:15:46] <Jymmm> Impressive brick layer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB8TWMKHHMQ
[12:17:53] <tjtr33> wow! vaults by eye, no form
[12:18:41] <CaptHindsight> they probably don't let the new guys mix the mortar
[12:20:54] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:21:13] <kfoltman> hi IchGuckLive
[12:22:15] <CaptHindsight> JIBO will probably break the funds raised record on indiegogo
[12:25:29] <tjtr33> the same could be done with iPhone, 2axis model airplane gimbal, but wouldnt be so 'cute'
[12:25:45] <tjtr33> put a furby suit on it, then maybe
[12:26:32] <tjtr33> still watchin the vault, that guys hands must be raw
[12:28:29] <eeriegeek> It kind of looks what I imagine the offspring of EVA and Wall-E would look like.
[12:29:04] <CaptHindsight> JIBO becomes part of the family you don't even know or care that it's spying on and manipulating you
[12:30:45] <tjtr33> the mortar mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE0MSwqoaVU turn on captions
[12:39:51] <ReadError> ssi, you aboot?
[12:41:27] <CaptHindsight> I wonder if they could lay those bricks that in a higher humidity area
[12:41:49] <CaptHindsight> bricks like that
[12:42:26] <CaptHindsight> since they have to be dry to quickly absorb the moisture from the mortar
[12:45:15] <tjtr33> other vids show wall mounted stairs done same way, no support, but hollow extruded red clay bricks
[12:45:18] <zeeshan> ssi
[12:45:22] <zeeshan> do you look like this?
[12:45:23] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/GYvItlO.jpg
[12:45:25] <zeeshan> :)
[12:45:55] <tjtr33> CaptHindsight, the real q is could a kuka 6dof do it using linuxcnc?
[12:47:45] <tjtr33> maybe a small ggg to butter it, and the robot arm to place it
[12:50:37] <tjtr33> the brick extruder could cut to len, angle ends as needed, and serialize them for placement
[12:51:02] <CaptHindsight> tjtr33: from what the mason says it should work
[12:51:58] <CaptHindsight> the bricks rapidly draw the water out of the mortar causing the slump to change rapidly
[12:52:20] <tjtr33> yeh got that, 'suck it up' clever
[12:52:32] <tjtr33> was really soupy
[12:53:13] <tjtr33> well that was fun, sanook di! back to python post for hurco!
[12:53:15] <CaptHindsight> a machine could hold several bricks in place while pumping mortar into the gaps
[12:53:44] <CaptHindsight> heh, yeah sheet metal here needs bending
[12:53:57] <tjtr33> hmm, yeah could go too fast, the rhythymn (??) is correct now
[12:54:04] <tjtr33> bbl
[12:54:24] <CaptHindsight> by hand he leaves enough time between bricks for them to set
[12:58:15] <zeeshan> can you still make a right handed threead
[12:58:20] <zeeshan> with a left handed threading insert?
[12:58:22] <zeeshan> ;p
[12:58:31] <zeeshan> just drive the insert from left to right?
[13:22:09] <archivist> lean it to the correct helix angle
[13:31:57] <IchGuckLive> BYE out for BBQ
[13:37:10] <XXCoder1> heys
[13:39:23] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: how often are the encoder counter registers read when using the 7i77 and 6i25?
[13:40:53] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPz61MWn8xw
[13:41:06] <pcw_home> at the servo thread rate
[13:42:03] <XXCoder1> interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKTjqeQMEhU
[13:46:15] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: I'd like to get 16bit data from an ADC into the 6i25 at at least 1KHz and possibly up to 10KHz, I was looking at the easiest way to hack something for now
[13:48:23] <pcw_home> I would use the SPI interface
[13:49:30] <pcw_home> (or the DAQ interface which has a FIFO)
[13:52:10] <XXCoder1> Jymmm: earth home. nice
[13:52:20] <XXCoder1> damn good insulation and lasts qyite a while
[13:53:39] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: the FIFO won't be good since the data is distance info from a laser used to offset the servo position on Z
[13:54:11] <CaptHindsight> so it's like the THC setup but much faster
[13:55:05] <XXCoder1> Jymmm: check out "earthship" homes
[13:55:17] <CaptHindsight> whats the fastest a servo thread can run?
[13:55:22] <XXCoder1> http://earthship.com/
[13:55:35] <pcw_home> maybe 5-8 KHz on good MB
[13:57:08] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: how much jitter can it tolerate at a 200us servo thread?
[13:57:24] <pcw_home> can what tolerate
[13:57:34] <XXCoder1> question - is rubber locking wheels secure enough for tablesaw table?
[13:58:54] <CaptHindsight> nevermind
[14:00:48] <CaptHindsight> it only matters if I also want to log the amount of offset correction of Z
[14:01:56] <CaptHindsight> to move faster the laser position info would be part of the servo loop and not get passed back to linuxcnc
[14:22:14] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKTjqeQMEhU bamboo concerete fencing
[14:22:19] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfJ3E6eoZGw I'd call it the pendulum printer
[14:24:33] <mozmck> Interesting on the bamboo. I have enough here I've thought of building a fence using bamboo for uprights and some wire to hold them together.
[14:44:00] <os1r1s> Any Sherline lathe users around?
[16:06:50] <Deejay> gn8
[17:10:33] <ssi> even'
[17:10:56] <Tom_itx> odd'
[17:11:56] <Tom_itx> burn any more fingers?
[17:12:06] <ssi> nah
[17:12:09] <ssi> burned some wood and lexan
[17:12:12] <ssi> about to try some acrylic
[17:12:43] <ssi> I need to tweak the gantry a bit to try to get it more square to the bed
[17:12:49] <ssi> and I'll have to realign the beam afterward
[17:13:20] <ssi> and I still haven't properly calibrated the axis scales
[17:40:14] <os1r1s> Any Sherline lathe users around?
[17:42:41] <Tom_itx> just mill
[17:43:15] <os1r1s> Tom_itx: Trying to figure out the best way to put endstops on a sherline cnc lathe
[17:43:32] <os1r1s> Was looking for suggestions in case someone has
[17:44:44] <Tom_itx> i know someone with a sherline lathe but i dunno if he's cnc'd it
[17:46:25] <os1r1s> There are a few printable pieces on tverse, but that only works for the bed and not the cross slide.
[17:47:15] <os1r1s> It would be easy to put an endstop for the cross slide that was fixed, but a bit more difficult to have one that moved with the slide.
[17:49:29] <Tom_itx> maybe use soft stops?
[17:50:32] <os1r1s> Tom_itx: I should say I'm putting on homing switches, not end stops
[17:50:36] <os1r1s> wrong term
[17:57:24] <Tom_itx> ok
[21:07:04] <scottcnc> any idea how i can tell where the 5i25 pci address is?
[21:07:12] <scottcnc> lspci shows this
[21:07:32] <scottcnc> 05:06.0 DPIO module: Device 2718:5125
[21:09:32] <Tom_itx> does dmesg tell you?
[21:10:47] <pcw_home> why do you need the pci address?
[21:11:27] <scottcnc> there is a box for the first parport address
[21:11:33] <scottcnc> in pncconf
[21:11:38] <scottcnc> ahh crap dmesg
[21:11:53] <scottcnc> 458.820340] RTAI[math]: loaded. [ 458.897253] config string '0xec00 out ' [ 458.898293] PARPORT: ERROR: request_region(0xec00) failed
[21:12:05] <scottcnc> that cant be good?
[21:12:29] <scottcnc> i grepped for mesa , 5i25 in the dmesg output
[21:12:32] <scottcnc> didnt see anything
[21:12:37] <pcw_home> no addresses are needed for the 5i25 (the driver deal with that level of detail)
[21:12:46] <scottcnc> so just uncheck the box?
[21:13:07] <pcw_home> the 5i25 is not a parallel port
[21:13:27] <scottcnc> ahh yeah
[21:13:30] <scottcnc> good point
[21:14:13] <scottcnc> there are quite a few options for "Firmware" 5i25_7i74_7i77
[21:16:08] <scottcnc> 5i25_7i76x2
[21:16:36] <pcw_home> 7I74/7i77 would be rather exotic firmware to use
[21:17:26] <scottcnc> that was just the first one listed
[21:23:31] <scottcnc> is that the correct on? x2?
[21:29:31] <pcw_home> if you have a 7I76 daughtercard, 7i76x2 is the one
[23:03:17] <XXCoder1> http://jetandturbineowners.proboards.com/thread/53/landspeed-bike-diy-gas-turbine
[23:11:34] <RyanS> Anyone do,much sheet metal work-- what's a good thickness, for making a drip tray. 0.5mmm ?
[23:11:51] <RyanS> steel
[23:12:13] <XXCoder1> 5'
[23:12:15] <XXCoder1> ;)
[23:14:07] <RyanS> in tool steel :p
[23:14:22] <XXCoder1> oh thats nice. 12 inches>?
[23:14:24] <XXCoder1> lol
[23:14:55] <RyanS> When are you Americans going to get rid of that ridiculous imperial system
[23:15:12] <XXCoder1> as soon as foot pound
[23:15:26] <XXCoder1> dont get those units lol theres also pound foot
[23:16:19] <RyanS> yards, fathoms
[23:16:25] <jdh> I thought we switched in 1976 or so
[23:17:40] <XXCoder1> few stuff is in metric but.. still imperial
[23:21:51] <RyanS> This is a good size
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Steel-sheet-road-plate-bench-2880mm-x-1825mm-x-75mm-very-heavy-duty-/111414227136?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item19f0ce30c0
[23:22:31] <XXCoder1> 75mm. pretty thick for drop tray I'd guess?
[23:22:46] <RyanS> naaaaah
[23:22:52] <RyanS> :p
[23:27:24] <XXCoder1> :)
[23:30:27] <XXCoder1> im at page 8 of that link I linked bit ago. amazing.
