#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-06-18

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[02:04:12] <Deejay> moin
[07:01:11] <_methods> http://sharp-world.com/corporate/news/140618.html
[07:37:23] <SpeedEvil> yay
[07:37:54] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200971182733?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT - related
[11:14:56] * JT-Shop finds 4 square feet of desk!
[11:17:56] * Tom_itx wonders how long it took JT-Shop's shop to get so cluttered
[11:18:29] <Tom_itx> after all it's only a couple years old ehh?
[11:18:51] <archivist> clutter only takes 5-10 minutes
[11:19:28] <JT-Shop> not to mention very full of stuff
[11:20:51] <archivist> how many layers :)
[11:21:03] * JT-Shop heads inside for a delicious bowl of gruel
[11:21:23] <JT-Shop> well any flat spot is fair game so at least 2 layers deep
[11:22:02] <archivist> I think I often get to three or four layers
[11:22:14] <archivist> I need more space
[11:22:32] <JT-Shop> I need less stuff
[11:23:02] <Tom_itx> no, you just need a bigger shop
[11:23:40] <Tom_itx> rule 1) he who dies with the most toys wins!
[11:23:45] <JT-Shop> lol, I'm done building here... well almost I still have to put siding on the shop and garage
[11:23:59] <JT-Shop> your still dead so what does it matter
[11:25:11] <JT-Shop> Menards has LP siding on sale for $0.75 a square foot
[11:25:38] <JT-Shop> I wonder if I buy some will I put it up before winter?
[11:25:57] <archivist> which winter
[11:26:07] <Tom_itx> LP?
[11:26:37] <JT-Shop> Louisiana Pacific
[11:26:49] <Tom_itx> you get alot of mold there?
[11:26:59] <Tom_itx> i was gonna price some concrete siding..
[11:28:11] <JT-Shop> not too much mold... I don't care to cut the concrete siding (hardy plank)
[11:28:25] <Tom_itx> don't you just score and snap it?
[11:28:31] <Tom_itx> i've not worked with it yet
[11:29:23] <JT-Shop> no, you cut it with a circle saw and it makes a bunch of dust
[11:29:33] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Got Gators?
[11:29:37] <Tom_itx> ahh... wonderful
[11:29:50] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: cant you wet saw it?
[11:30:39] <JT-Shop> not practical Jymmm
[11:30:43] <Jymmm> k
[11:35:17] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx, http://www.lpcorp.com/LP_Products/Walls/SmartSide_Trim_and_Siding/Why_Choose_LP_SmartSide_Instead_Of_Fiber_Cement_/
[11:37:10] <Tom_itx> is it smooth or woodgrain?
[11:37:12] <Tom_itx> or both
[11:37:47] <JT-Shop> the one I'm looking at is woodgrain and primed on the woodgrain side
[11:38:20] <Tom_itx> i was gonna replace a couple rows at the bottom on the garage was all
[11:38:51] <Tom_itx> it's closer to the ground and has taken it's toll thru the years
[11:39:51] <JT-Shop> that could be fun to try and change the bottom rows
[11:40:37] <Tom_itx> i've replaced a couple already with the old i had leftover
[11:40:42] <Tom_itx> it's not too bad
[11:40:45] <Tom_itx> if you're careful
[12:03:57] <maZer`-> hi all :9
[12:04:19] <maZer`-> i have a problem, i have no base-thread?
[12:04:25] <maZer`-> im trying to run debounce in base-thread
[12:06:54] <maZer`-> i get always the error thread "base-thread" not found
[12:07:14] <Tom_itx> are you running mesa cards?
[12:07:37] <Tom_itx> they run in servo thread iirc
[12:08:07] <maZer`-> yes im running mesa cards
[12:08:33] <maZer`-> im a newbie and im not sure, im reading a howto for adding the tool length probe
[12:08:35] <Tom_itx> add it to servo thread
[12:08:43] <maZer`-> oh big thanks :d
[12:10:01] <Tom_itx> # change the 4 to the number you want
[12:10:01] <Tom_itx> loadrt debounce cfg=4
[12:10:16] <Tom_itx> addf debounce.0 servo-threadsetp debounce.0.delay 20 # this sets the delay 20 iterations of the servo thread
[12:10:22] <Tom_itx> is how i did it
[12:12:11] <maZer`-> big big thanks! :D
[12:12:22] <Tom_itx> kinda ran together there...
[12:13:32] <maZer`-> the debounce.0.delay 20 is enaugh for measurement tool length? :)
[12:13:51] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:13:52] <Tom_itx> that was for my switches
[12:16:21] <IchGuckLive> maZer`-: why dont you use the G38 as expected for toollength
[12:21:03] <IchGuckLive> maZer`-: why dont you use the G38 as expected for toollength
[12:21:33] <IchGuckLive> there is also a G30 that actts as moving towards tool change position
[12:21:47] <IchGuckLive> no need for debounce on that command
[12:22:31] <IchGuckLive> it is comen to move fast down till first contact back up and then go smooth towards again to get better acuracy
[12:26:41] <IchGuckLive> hi _abc__
[12:34:53] <IchGuckLive> maZer`-: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/gcode/gcode.html#sec:G30-G30_1
[12:48:07] <Loetmichel> *puh* my wife has done it again... Dinner today for me: 1200 gram pork filet heavyly wrapped in bacon, baked with 250gr cheeese and some tomatos poured over the whole thing... *Boooarrrrrpsss*
[12:48:56] <archivist> not on a diet then
[12:50:32] <Loetmichel> <- full to the brim.
[12:50:38] <Loetmichel> not on a diet, no ;-)
[12:51:06] <archivist> well you are the "see food and eat it" diet
[13:03:27] <CaptHindsight> received a supply of insulated tubing clamps today marked "Germany", haven't seen much of that the past couple of decades
[13:24:24] <IchGuckLive> hi balestrino sub in germany rain in italia
[13:33:19] <IchGuckLive> im off BYE
[13:44:11] <Gigs-> is a "2" thickness carbide insert rare or something? I'm on carbide depot and all of them jump from 1.5 to 2.5 that I've seen
[13:44:44] <Gigs-> next question can you use a 2.5 insert in a toolholder for 2s, assuming the screw reaches
[13:46:35] <archivist> look at the fitting recommended but methinks not
[13:47:05] <archivist> I have sometimes machined my own holders for inserts
[13:47:21] <Gigs-> I have no information on these holders other than there's "india" stamped on them and they have a generic TT 322 in them now
[13:47:47] <Gigs-> C5
[13:48:32] <archivist> there are some standards for insert sizes
[13:49:28] <Gigs-> sure, 3 means 3/8 size, 2 means 0.125 thick and 2 means 0.031 radius on the point
[13:49:50] <Gigs-> but it seems like most of the advanced inserts I want jump from 3-1.5 to 3-2.5 in thickness
[13:50:23] <Gigs-> 0.150 thick or so on the 2.5
[13:52:31] <archivist> I am usually abusing threading inserts on my own holders
[13:53:29] <marmite> i hate my lathe :D
[13:53:38] <archivist> aw
[13:53:47] <archivist> does it hate you too
[13:53:52] <marmite> probebly yes
[13:54:17] <marmite> have been looking for toolholders for around 2 weeks now
[13:54:20] <marmite> and a chuck key for it
[13:55:00] <archivist> I make chuck keys for the square drive on 3/4 jaw
[13:55:28] <marmite> i would if i had a indexer
[13:55:46] <_methods> use poor man indexer
[13:55:54] <marmite> my cock ?
[13:55:55] <marmite> :D
[13:56:01] <_methods> indexer block
[13:56:12] <_methods> collet block
[13:56:28] <archivist> the vice or see bottom of page http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/catalogue/chucks/lathe-chucks
[13:56:29] <marmite> a what now ?
[13:56:49] <marmite> ah
[13:57:27] <_methods> http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/metalworking-tools/machine-tool-accessories/collets/quick-acting-5c-collet-block-closer
[13:57:32] <archivist> even a file and a square against the bed
[13:58:18] <archivist> if you are lucky a socket set drive works too
[14:00:20] <marmite> ah
[14:01:54] <marmite> well i have a cnc mill i could probebly mill out something that could semi work
[14:02:07] <marmite> i have a unimat sl chuck as a spare i could hack together
[14:10:18] <JT-Shop> does anyone use any kind of lube on the taper of tool holders like BT CAT etc.
[14:10:52] <Jymmm> no comment
[14:11:01] <cradek> nope
[14:11:08] <cradek> seems like that would make it stick
[14:11:18] <cradek> umm why are you asking?
[14:11:24] <JT-Shop> mine kinda stick a little
[14:11:45] <archivist> to keep them from going rusty only
[14:12:18] <cradek> I think on mine, the drawbar pokes them out a little, so if they're sticky I wouldn't know it
[14:12:28] <cradek> do you have the right knobs?
[14:12:30] <archivist> I have always had to tap them
[14:12:51] <JT-Shop> yea, I got them from Maritool and asked them which was the correct ones
[14:12:54] <cradek> I know people do tap manual drawbars
[14:13:10] <cradek> this is a power drawbar right?
[14:13:16] <skunkworks_> our 50 taper you had to tap to release
[14:13:28] <skunkworks_> (draw bar)
[14:13:37] <JT-Shop> this is on my Discovery 308 with 8 station tool carousel
[14:14:10] <archivist> may have a fault with the release mech then
[14:14:18] <cradek> yeah maybe something's maladjusted
[14:14:27] <JT-Shop> hmm, they only appear to stick when the ATC is changing them and not when I manually remove one
[14:14:40] <cradek> hmm
[14:15:08] <CaptHindsight> I can't find any 1/2" square boring bars (vs round) today, who makes/sells them?
[14:15:11] <cradek> mine has two different release mechanisms - the air one that is run by the manual pushbutton, and a purely mechanical system that the tool changer pokes
[14:15:13] <JT-Shop> sounds like something is not adjusted correctly
[14:15:44] <cradek> yeah maybe some cam is worn or loose
[14:15:51] <JT-Shop> mine only has the air cylinder AFAIK
[14:16:07] <marmite> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15996745/asd.jpg this is my toolpost. why coudent they just made a more normal one :D
[14:16:30] <archivist> is the piston on a threaded shaft for adjustment
[14:17:06] <CaptHindsight> found em
[14:17:27] <JT-Shop> archivist, yes I think so
[14:18:27] <archivist> which layer did you hide the FM under
[14:19:50] <archivist> marmite, it that upside down?
[14:19:55] <archivist> it/is
[14:20:40] <marmite> probebly yes
[14:22:13] <archivist> it looks two sided like mine but I cannot see the clamp screw
[14:36:46] <PCW> skunkworks_: ICap now working on the 7I80 so you can flash new firmware _and_ load it
[14:36:48] <PCW> without power cycling the 7I80 (once the magic foo gets added to mesaflash)
[14:36:50] <PCW> This could possibly be added to 5I25 but would require PCI BAR register save/restore
[14:36:52] <PCW> to have an accessible card after FPGA reload
[14:37:30] <skunkworks_> Very cool!
[14:38:25] <PCW> we have customer using these in places where its inconvenient to power cycle
[14:39:35] <skunkworks_> the gigabit board that I want to play with is currently formatting a 8 disk - 3TB/disk esata array.. should be done tomorrow.
[14:40:05] <Jymmm> skunkworks_: WTH?!
[14:42:05] <skunkworks_> Jymmm: not the fastest thing in the world..
[14:42:21] <Jymmm> skunkworks_: what is the device?
[14:43:17] <skunkworks_> one of those rosewill 8 drive esata boxes... 2 - 4 drive port multipliers
[14:43:54] <Jymmm> skunkworks_: Oh, with built in RADI controller?
[14:44:02] <Jymmm> RAID*
[14:44:38] <Jymmm> skunkworks_: DIP switches on the back?
[14:44:44] <skunkworks_> no
[14:45:20] <Jymmm> Hmmm, link?
[14:45:20] <skunkworks_> I am using some cheap pcie e-sata cards
[14:47:07] <skunkworks_> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132016R&cm_re=8_bay-_-16-132-016R-_-Product
[14:47:19] <skunkworks_> I get around 40MB/s transfer rates
[14:49:35] <Jymmm> using what OS ?
[14:50:10] <skunkworks_> at the moment - 14.04
[14:50:22] <Jymmm> Oh
[14:50:23] <skunkworks_> mdadm
[14:58:55] <micges1> PCW: send me info, I'll update mf in mean time
[15:00:21] <PCW> I updated the manuals to include the ICAP port
[15:01:07] <micges1> ah ok
[15:01:58] <PCW> I just emailed you the reboot ICAP sequence
[15:03:39] <Deejay__> namd
[15:03:57] <PCW> (this needs Etherhm2 V15 and LBP16 V4, updating bitfiles today)
[15:05:05] <micges1> PCW: so it will reboot after 4th NOP ?
[15:05:40] <PCW> Yes (exactly then)
[15:06:25] <micges1> can I fit all writes to one packet or it must be some delay between writes?
[15:06:39] <PCW> all in one is fine
[15:06:58] <micges1> ok thanks
[15:08:38] <PCW> took me a day to get it right what with fussy timing and byte-bit reversals
[15:10:03] <PCW> (but all the fussyness is in the assy code so externally its pretty simple)
[15:10:57] <PCW> also added 8 more scratch registers
[15:12:31] <PCW> I thought that I had to delete one but I was wrong, the space 6 0x1E location for the ICap register was unused before
[15:12:53] <micges1> so 8 + 1?
[15:13:22] <PCW> yes, one in space 6 and 8 more added in space 4
[16:04:11] <Loetmichel> ah, shi*... i should clean up this mess here asap. searching 1,5hrs now for my mean2ell 12V 20 amps PSU for the Ramps. found THREE 24V 10A meanwells so far, no 12V anywhere in sight. and i KNOW i have at least one somewhere around here :-(
[16:05:19] <micges1> PCW: what changed in LBP16 to bump version ?
[16:06:11] <PCW> change to memory space
[16:06:21] <PCW> spaces(s)
[16:08:09] <PCW> I guess i have not been completely consistent with that (does it cause an issue?)
[16:08:29] <PCW> I can bump it back to 3 if you like
[16:09:15] <micges1> I see protocol doesn't change so no need to bump it's version
[16:09:48] <micges1> last two changes in areas layouts bumped only firmware versions
[16:12:34] <micges1> I think consistent would be LBP16 v3 and ethernet firmware v15
[16:15:55] <PCW> OK will change back to LBP16 V3
[16:17:06] <micges1> I hope you didn't much bitfiles ;)
[16:17:24] <micges1> didn't do*
[16:17:30] <PCW> well its a script so it doesn't matter
[16:18:07] <micges1> that's good
[16:39:02] <Tom_itx> Jymmm, were you stretching?
[16:39:18] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Just a little =)
[16:44:37] <JT-Shop> is my web site broken for you guys too http://www.gnipsel.com/
[16:45:27] <micges1> yes for me
[16:45:36] <Tom_itx> uh huh
[16:45:57] <JT-Shop> ok thanks for checking
[16:46:03] <Tom_itx> try the plug in the corner of the shop
[16:46:58] <JT-Shop> hosting service is up...
[16:46:59] <kengu> !The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading."
[17:01:31] <JT-Shop> they have an issue LOL and will fix it soon
[17:06:11] <JT-Shop> I hate finding things on my desk and can't remember what the heck they are for
[17:06:14] <Deejay> gn8
[17:09:47] <JT-Shop> that was quick, they fixed it
[17:31:22] <Loetmichel> so, psu mounted. now mointing the ramps module. then a lot of wiring. and the end stops. ;-) -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14981 12V 30A ... should be sufficient ;-)
[19:13:59] <Valen> hey PCW / pcw_home you around?
[19:14:26] <PCW> Yeah
[19:34:53] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, your page is fixed
[19:35:19] <Tom_itx> nm, missed your reply above
[20:46:55] <ssi> comcast is a ridiculously bad organization
[20:49:36] <XXCoder1> not surpised
[20:49:52] <XXCoder1> no compeition means no reason to keep lean and nice
[20:50:52] <ssi> sure... but they're worse even than that
[21:10:27] <XXCoder1> ssi: indeed
[21:25:07] <Jymmm> Man, reading the logs using default text editor is just... weird
[21:25:47] <Jymmm> reading using a browser is MUCH easier, and I honestly couldn't tell youwhat the difference is.
[21:26:20] <Jymmm> almost painful with the default
[21:30:41] <Jymmm> !seen witnit
[21:30:42] <the_wench> last seen in 2014-06-17 04:24:49GMT 46:47:47 ago, saying Remote host closed the connection
[21:30:58] <Jymmm> thanks wench!