#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-06-03

[00:00:13] <KimK> You might want to keep your op-amp and your 0-10, and then run through the isolator at a 0-10 scale, then come out of the isolator at 0-10, and only then scale down with resistors at the drive.
[00:01:58] <NickParker|2> could also just pwm through an opto then do the op amp on the isolated side.
[00:02:01] <NickParker|2> no?
[00:02:22] <KimK> Your "bad" drive is likely also capable of accepting an isolator, so check into that too, maybe save yourself some money.
[00:03:22] <NickParker|2> KimK: it's not isolation we're struggling with. Restored to original LinuxCNC free condition the spindle controller doesn't respond to inputs.
[00:03:43] <NickParker|2> But I have more theories about why that is that I'll try tomorrow.
[00:06:17] <KimK> OK, I don't mean to interrupt your troubleshooting. If you can find a bad SCR or whatever, and get it going in local pot mode, great! The isolator part comes after that, where you want to control with an external (to the drive) 0-10V.
[00:11:57] <NickParker|2> Yeah thanks for all your help. Hope I get the dinosaur working tomorrow, and iff not I'lll probably buy myself a nice minarik drive.
[01:03:59] <eren_basturk> I wonder that do you Linuxcnc for your products?
[01:05:45] <zeeshan> any suggestion s
[01:05:47] <zeeshan> on how to sand/polish
[01:05:50] <zeeshan> the groove:
[01:05:51] <zeeshan> http://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-transmission/1729425-t56-5-6-extension-countershaft-damage.html
[01:05:58] <zeeshan> in those pics
[01:27:38] <archivist> turn it to clean up maybe
[01:28:14] <zeeshan> i was thinking of a less aggressive approach
[01:28:18] <zeeshan> i wanna get a sand paper in there
[01:28:23] <zeeshan> but not sure it will get in there :p
[01:28:56] <archivist> the base of the groove looks rough turned
[01:29:38] <zeeshan> yes
[01:30:15] <zeeshan> make a small 1 thou to 2 thou flick
[01:30:20] <zeeshan> wit ha grooving tool might fix it
[01:30:37] <archivist> even a file
[01:30:39] <zeeshan> only one way to find out
[01:30:39] <zeeshan> =D
[01:30:49] <zeeshan> if ican fix this
[01:30:51] <zeeshan> i save 150$
[01:31:48] <archivist> eren_basturk, do you mean what do we make, I make gear/regular shapes
[01:31:59] <zeeshan> archivist:
[01:32:00] <archivist> is it even faulty
[01:32:02] <zeeshan> i was meaningi to ask you earlier
[01:32:05] <zeeshan> do you own a hobbing machine?
[01:32:22] <archivist> I do but it is in bits and tiny
[01:32:40] <zeeshan> how about a spline rolling machine?
[01:32:50] <zeeshan> i really want to be able to roll my own splines
[01:33:20] <archivist> you can hob splines
[01:33:36] <archivist> you could even cnc shape them
[01:33:38] <zeeshan> yea but theyre not as strong
[01:33:40] <archivist> http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=colman
[01:33:47] <zeeshan> i really want to form them
[01:34:03] <eren_basturk> no i mean do you sell a machine with linuxcnc?
[01:34:14] <zeeshan> fancy machine :D
[01:35:05] <zeeshan> i cant tell how it works :p
[01:36:49] <archivist> basically rotates the blank and cutter at the same time, but that one is an auto for up to 1 inch dia, likely to be cnceeed
[01:37:23] <zeeshan> cool
[01:37:57] <archivist> linuxcnc can handle the gearing between tool and blank
[02:12:35] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[02:12:44] <Deejay> moin
[10:04:55] <Jymmm> Mornin Folks!
[10:07:10] <zeeshan> morning
[10:09:09] <archivist_herron> nearly 4 in the after noon and time to go home!
[10:39:21] <malcom2073> So i have HAL pwmgen enabled and set to a value of 42, but a LED I have attached to that output is pulsing as if the pwm was cyling from 0 to 100%, then back to 0, and repeating. Am I misunderstanding how the pwm stuff works?
[10:43:20] <jdh> it puts out 5v always. teh PWM is how long it is on per cycle
[10:44:55] <malcom2073> Right, and a LED attached to a pwm channel will vary in brightness based on how long 5v is applied during that cycle, so a solid PWM value should mean a solid LED brightness
[10:45:11] <SpeedEvil> what is the PWM rate.
[10:45:25] <SpeedEvil> The pwm rate needs to be >>10Hz to not flicker
[10:45:44] <SpeedEvil> Ideally ~1000Hz
[10:52:52] <skunkworks__> malcom2073: what does your hal file look like?
[10:53:20] <jdh> mine is a text file with numbers and letters.
[10:55:50] <skunkworks__> what about symbols?
[10:56:07] <jdh> you're right! those too!
[10:56:35] <zeeshan> trolls
[10:57:09] <jdh> IDTTMWYTIM
[10:58:01] <zeeshan> WYTYSIWYTYG
[11:34:24] <malcom2073> Got it, was user error, I was doing other things with that same output, duh. Fixed now thanks
[11:34:28] <malcom2073> On to the next issue heh
[12:15:08] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:49:21] <IchGuckLive> malcom2073: issues are to solf thats the most fun stupid milling 200pices is not as fun
[12:49:48] <IchGuckLive> seb_kuzminsky: why is there a chennel flooding masage
[12:51:44] <malcom2073> Heh
[12:54:51] <IchGuckLive> malcom2073: i reead the loogs and you said on to the next issue ;-)
[12:57:48] <zeeshan> first time looking at a 1/8 hss tool bit
[12:57:51] <zeeshan> cute little thing
[12:58:29] <archivist> but the cute little buggers are sharp and will bite you
[12:58:39] <zeeshan> they make a nice bit
[12:58:42] <zeeshan> for a small boring bar
[13:00:27] <archivist> dremel and microscope and you can make your own small turning tools
[13:14:02] <malcom2073> IchGuckLive: I have some solid state relays, I didn't read teh spec sheet, over 5amps they need heatsinking. I was running 10amps through it and it got QUITE hot :)
[13:14:53] <IchGuckLive> nice shop heater !
[13:15:09] <malcom2073> It got up over 100C (tested by dripping water on the surface)
[13:15:23] <malcom2073> So... may be ruined? I'll try it out once I get a heatsink and see haha, but I'm buying a spare
[13:16:04] <Jymmm> malcom2073: Opto22?
[13:16:14] <Jymmm> well, nm
[13:16:15] <malcom2073> Jymmm: SSR-60-DD
[13:16:37] <Jymmm> Opto has a warranty, but they are super nazi about it.
[13:16:47] <malcom2073> Jymmm: http://www.amazon.com/Single-Phase-Solid-3-32VDC-5-110VDC/dp/B009AQN9CQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1401818321&sr=1-1&keywords=SSR+60
[13:16:57] <malcom2073> For that price, not really worth shipping back :P
[13:17:21] <Jymmm> malcom2073: http://www.amazon.com/Aluminum-Solid-State-Relay-Dissipation/dp/B005D6145G/ref=pd_bxgy_hi_text_y
[13:17:36] <malcom2073> Jymmm: Yep, have a few of that type on order
[13:17:41] <Jymmm> lol
[13:17:53] <malcom2073> I put a CPU heatsink on my second one, kept it quite cool to the touch
[13:19:42] <pcw_home> Probably done with a OPTO/Darlington so high voltage drop (1.5 or 2V), hence the need for a heatsink
[13:21:52] <malcom2073> pcw_home: from what I've read (no datasheet available on the $10 unit), most of these have a 1-1.5v drop, so anything over 5amps needs heatisnking
[13:23:01] <malcom2073> So it'll get me up and running, but tbh losing that much power may make me consider getting a higher efficiency solution, that's a lot of heat
[13:24:28] <pcw_home> Dont know if there are better MOSFET based modules available
[13:24:49] <skunkworks__> wow - dell server seems to have eaten 4 memory sticks
[13:25:33] <pcw_home> Thats an expensive habit
[13:26:11] <skunkworks__> assuming that it is the memory and not some odd memory control/motherboard issue.. I have none to swap out.
[13:26:40] <skunkworks__> yes - 4gb sticks of ecc pc3
[13:26:49] <pcw_home> Yow
[13:27:04] <CaptHindsight> "Dude, you got a Dell"
[13:27:06] <Jymmm> skunkworks__: Can you test individually, or does it need pairs?
[13:27:25] <pcw_home> Probably need another rsystem to verify that the memory is truly dead
[13:28:03] <Jymmm> Could run MEMTEST too
[13:28:21] <CaptHindsight> over voltage? overheated? self destruct circuit?
[13:28:28] <skunkworks__> It will boot with just one.. out of the 6 sticks - only 2 work
[13:28:59] <skunkworks__> it disables the lanes at bootup (bad sticks)
[13:29:00] <Jymmm> skunkworks__: Try swapping to other slots, could be a bad socket too, I've seen that before.
[13:29:08] <pcw_home> just suddenly happened on a working system?
[13:29:12] <skunkworks__> yes
[13:29:20] <skunkworks__> we did have some lighting this last weekend...
[13:29:59] <IchGuckLive> skunkworks_ lightning did cost about 1Mio here in the last 2 days
[13:30:45] <skunkworks__> I think in the dells - you need to start with slot 1a,1b and so on..
[13:30:57] <IchGuckLive> USAFB took 2 full hits and the biofuel reserva has been als hit Metan about 14 m³ did go up to the vent
[13:31:15] <Jymmm> skunkworks__: Right, but it depends on the mobo, some do, some don't care.
[13:31:38] <Jymmm> skunkworks__: easy enough to test
[13:32:12] <Jymmm> skunkworks__: Then you can isolate sticks vs slots
[13:32:41] <IchGuckLive> all american newsrooms are here in town today i saw a Cnn truck at Burgerking ans NBC at Mc
[13:33:06] <Jymmm> Intel VP died yesterday
[13:33:23] <IchGuckLive> the afgan soldier is last POW is eating german meals ;-)
[13:33:36] <Jymmm> ah
[13:33:43] <IchGuckLive> im off BY have a nice milling day where ever you are in the world
[13:34:15] <IchGuckLive> E
[13:34:19] <skunkworks__> Jymmm: if I put the 'bad' memory in any other slot - it disables it.
[13:34:45] <skunkworks__> and also scolds me that it isn't 'optimum' memory setup :)
[13:35:00] <skunkworks__> *disables it as bad
[13:35:05] <CaptHindsight> skunkworks_: any BIOS options to config the DRAM?
[13:35:15] <Jymmm> skunkworks__: But does the 'good' memory work in all slots (one stick at a time) ?
[13:35:21] <CaptHindsight> manual config?
[13:35:57] <skunkworks__> CaptHindsight: went as far as updating the bios and firmware.. no change
[13:36:30] <Jymmm> skunkworks__: Dumb question but did you clear the CMOS after BIOS update?
[13:36:42] <CaptHindsight> BIOS exercises them to determine layout and size
[13:37:07] <skunkworks__> Jymmm: yes
[13:37:14] <Jymmm> skunkworks__: K, just checking =)
[13:37:21] <skunkworks__> they call it the nvram
[13:37:35] <CaptHindsight> reading SPD isn't accurate, I wonder what your BIOS does?
[13:38:01] <Jymmm> skunkworks__: Does your ram have a lifetime waranty? Many do
[13:38:12] <skunkworks__> Jymmm: the 'good' memory boots in other slots.. (where the bad memory doesn't)
[13:38:21] <skunkworks__> Jymmm: have to check
[13:38:37] <Jymmm> skunkworks__: Cool, at least you know it's not the mobo that's fubar'ed
[13:38:47] <Jymmm> skunkworks__: what BRAND ram is it?
[13:39:00] <skunkworks__> hynix
[13:39:25] <skunkworks__> it has been running for probably 2 months or more..
[13:40:25] <CaptHindsight> I'd try running them all the lowest speed and slowest timings if BIOS lets you config them manually
[13:40:46] <Jymmm> skunkworks__: Where did you get the ram from?
[13:41:31] <CaptHindsight> after all the usual board flexing pin straightening checking etc etc
[13:42:00] <skunkworks__> it came with the server - it was refurbished from a company that I have had good luck with...
[13:42:36] <skunkworks__> I will get with them.. pretty sure it is all still under warrantee...
[13:42:51] <Jymmm> skunkworks__: Ah, ok. http://www.skhynix.com/products/support/rma.jsp
[13:43:14] <Jymmm> Cosair, Kingstone have lifetime warranties for most products
[13:45:13] <JesusAlos> hi
[13:54:07] <zeeshan> 1337 SW Sultan Dr. Port Saint Lucie, FL 34953
[13:54:15] <zeeshan> thats cnc4pc's house
[13:54:24] <zeeshan> address i mean. and it's a house.
[13:54:25] <zeeshan> interesting
[13:54:53] <CaptHindsight> what no phone number? :)
[13:55:18] <zeeshan> has a number
[14:04:22] <jdh> that's a pretty l33t address
[14:07:23] <jdh> cheap too.
[14:26:01] <Jymmm> cheep?
[14:26:06] <Jymmm> cheap?
[14:26:18] <Jymmm> zeeshan: whats so interesting abut it?
[14:28:58] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=801ZII2e3CM#t=34 anyone ever use this brand of Z positioner?
[14:30:38] <CaptHindsight> http://www.pacospiralift.com/index.html
[14:30:44] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: That's interesting... wind-a-column if you will
[14:33:08] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-7b1b2R_Kg
[14:37:27] <Jymmm> I like how he steps on it, and knocks it over =)
[14:38:55] <CaptHindsight> http://www.skf.com/group/products/actuation-systems/index.html I'm looking for lower profile versions
[14:41:17] <CaptHindsight> for my application an upside down power antenna might be good enough
[14:41:40] <Jymmm> car antenna?
[14:42:07] <CaptHindsight> yeah, If I can find a very rugged one
[14:42:38] <Jymmm> electric car antennas are expensive, most have a nylon coil to raise/lower the antenna, not rugged in the least
[14:42:57] <CaptHindsight> like what would have been on a 1962 Mercedes :)
[14:43:17] <CaptHindsight> only ~2lb load
[14:43:36] <Jymmm> Nylon came out in 1945 =)
[14:45:30] <CaptHindsight> http://ergo-help.net/telescoping-air-cylinders.html
[15:02:55] <JesusAlos> gn8
[15:12:31] <jdh> http://wilmington.craigslist.org/tls/4500874254.html
[15:12:59] <jdh> opinions?
[15:15:06] <jdh> too big for my space I guess.
[15:15:39] <Jymmm> jdh: It fit where are you gas tanks are =)
[15:15:54] <Jymmm> jdh: It fit where all your gas tanks are =)
[15:19:03] <jdh> nah, they don't take up that much space.
[15:19:37] <Jymmm> ah
[15:19:51] <zeeshan> monarch
[15:19:53] <zeeshan> FTW
[15:24:54] <CaptHindsight> http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bfs/4502403907.html "If you buy the machine, you must pick it up"
[15:25:11] <CaptHindsight> I hate those customers that buy it and just leave it here
[15:25:59] <CaptHindsight> http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/tld/4492813217.html another Monarch
[15:34:39] <CaptHindsight> http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/tls/4501782128.html a bunch of those mini re-branded Sherline machines for $500ea
[15:47:45] <SpeedEvil> CaptHindsight: I've sometimes done that. 'actually, I don't want it, it's a gift'.
[15:48:02] <SpeedEvil> Probably means 'I won't move it'
[16:47:32] <Deejay> gn8
[17:24:04] <zeeshan> hooray
[17:24:18] <zeeshan> cnc4pc said it wil be sending out my new toroid supply tommo
[17:24:25] <zeeshan> in exchange for the blown smps and working smps
[17:24:55] <Loetmichel> yeah, tioroid can cope with peaks MUCH better
[17:25:33] <zeeshan> well main reason i bought it
[17:25:38] <zeeshan> is if it ever blew up, i could fix it at home
[17:25:42] <Loetmichel> but be careful: a 1200W toroid that is burning because of overheat simply cant be extinguished.
[17:25:42] <zeeshan> cause its a simple circuit
[17:25:56] <Loetmichel> water on it: flames out. water evaporates: flames back on
[17:26:21] <Loetmichel> its unbeliveable how much energy the iron can store ;-)
[17:26:24] <zeeshan> =D
[17:26:54] <zeeshan> this one is 1300W
[17:27:02] <zeeshan> im just gonna fuse it right
[17:27:04] <zeeshan> so it never overheats
[17:27:32] <Loetmichel> it took about 10 minutes in the shower to get it cooled down enough that it only smoked, not reignited ;-)
[17:27:43] <zeeshan> whyd yours go on fire
[17:28:10] <Loetmichel> welding with a 80V servo supply isnt the best idea ;-)
[17:28:29] <zeeshan> lol
[17:33:37] <MrHindsight> http://www.tenryu.com/pra.html cutting through aluminum extrusions like butter, if any is looking for good blades
[22:39:48] <CaptHindsight> anyone tried using multitouch gestures with Linuxcnc?
[22:39:59] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ek4QaFQ1qo
[22:40:31] <XXCoder1> hey
[22:40:46] <FrankZappa> whoa, looks like the Future
[22:40:46] <XXCoder1> lol dunno? make an geasure and your cnc breaks ;)
[22:40:56] * FrankZappa not being snarky, it really does
[22:41:18] <XXCoder1> I suspect it might finally work because of tablets
[22:41:33] <XXCoder1> before people just wasnt up to it. there was many... MANY geasure programs
[22:41:53] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder1: yeah, but if you can lock the dangerous stuff out but use gestures for navigating around faster
[22:42:04] <XXCoder1> yeah would work
[22:42:38] <CaptHindsight> like running a g-code program would require a long tap on the start button or similar
[22:43:13] <XXCoder1> oh talking about cncs I finally had good cnc day. no miscuts no problems
[22:43:33] <XXCoder1> even the trouble chronic car sized cnc went smoothly for half of day I worked on it
[22:44:06] <CaptHindsight> i was going to play around with a touchscreen with Axis and Gmoccapy
[22:44:24] <CaptHindsight> not sure about which screen to use and all the driver support
[22:44:53] <skunkworks_> 14.04 uses pinch/unpinch for zooming... took a bit to figure that out ;)
[22:46:07] <CaptHindsight> I installed 14.04 but haven't installed Linuxcnc or RTAI to it yet
[22:46:20] <skunkworks_> I am only running sim
[22:46:27] <CaptHindsight> skunkworks_: did you build from source?
[22:46:32] <skunkworks_> yes
[22:46:57] <CaptHindsight> which RTAI kernel?
[22:47:01] <skunkworks_> sim
[22:47:09] <CaptHindsight> ah
[22:47:27] <skunkworks_> isn't there someone on the forum that got rtai running on 14.04?
[22:47:54] * Valen thinks they should consider xubuntu as the base for the next release
[22:48:11] <CaptHindsight> I lost track of that one thread but we had difficulty reproducing his work
[22:48:23] <CaptHindsight> maybe Debian
[22:48:49] <XXCoder1> Valen: yeah
[22:48:56] <XXCoder1> xfce is amazing
[22:49:07] <Valen> I wouldn't go that far
[22:49:11] <Valen> but its not unity
[22:49:14] <Valen> which is a good thing
[22:49:24] <CaptHindsight> 3.4.55 was the last stable RTAI since the scheduler needed to be reworked due to changes in the newer kernels
[22:50:05] <CaptHindsight> been trying the various Mint (deb versions) spins as well lately
[22:54:06] <XXCoder1> well hope it gets workable new ready to go linuxcnc soonish
[22:55:19] <Valen> has there been a release since 10.04?
[22:55:31] <CaptHindsight> well 12.04 works
[22:55:35] <XXCoder1> well i downloaded latest and it was 10.04
[22:55:45] <XXCoder1> I dont care to use call home version of ubuntu
[22:55:47] <CaptHindsight> there's a howto on the wiki
[22:55:48] <Valen> thats not a "release" though is it?
[22:56:17] <CaptHindsight> nope, I don't think there will be another ubuntu based release
[22:57:17] <CaptHindsight> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/9-installing-linuxcnc/27741-64bit--linux-3813rtai-40--linuxcnc-260-pre?start=20 last comment is a month old about RTAI 3.8.13
[22:57:44] <XXCoder1> rtai?
[22:58:03] <CaptHindsight> the RTAI linux kernel
[22:58:14] <XXCoder1> yeah just found detals. thanks tho
[22:58:33] <CaptHindsight> they were using RTAI 4.0 which is broken and having trouble
[22:59:05] <CaptHindsight> so kernel 3.4.55 RTAI is the latest stable
[23:04:06] <CaptHindsight> https://github.com/ShabbyX/RTAI/tree/linuxcnc-old An old but the only working RTAI repo for LinuxCNC
[23:07:24] <Tecan> hmm
[23:08:17] <Tecan> ubuntu 14.04 EMC ?
[23:08:45] <CaptHindsight> if you want to build it yourself
[23:09:13] <CaptHindsight> Tecan: have you tried the 12.04 howto?
[23:09:24] <Tecan> long time ago
[23:09:46] <CaptHindsight> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxCNC_On_Ubuntu_Precise
[23:16:02] <tjtr33> multitouch systems... 3 to 5 yrs old, and i watch this stuff! http://www.medien.ifi.lmu.de/lehre/ss09/os/material/DA_Antrittsvortrag_Florian_Schulz.pdf http://hci.rwth-aachen.de/BendDesk
[23:17:58] <CaptHindsight> tjtr33: even an old 5-wire touch is fine but I wanted to see what it takes to get the multipoint cap touch panels to behave with Linuxcnc
[23:18:24] <CaptHindsight> the 19-24" cap touch panels are <$300 now
[23:19:13] <CaptHindsight> they don't work well with gloves on but they also don't get cut or wear the way a resistive film does
[23:19:37] <tjtr33> ok, resistive/capacitive ,not ir sensing & projectors
[23:20:02] <XXCoder1> not bad
[23:20:08] <tjtr33> tehere were some stand alone gestural devices... lemme look back
[23:20:15] <XXCoder1> ir sense is nice sometimes
[23:20:35] <XXCoder1> it works with anything, while capactive needs finger or special tip on screen pen
[23:20:41] <tjtr33> http://www.i-bar.ch/ :) where i first saw
[23:21:20] <XXCoder1> resistive works with anything too but less sensive
[23:21:27] <CaptHindsight> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009610 not industrial but low cost to play with
[23:21:44] <XXCoder1> easy enough to convert it to industual
[23:21:53] <XXCoder1> new case
[23:22:04] <XXCoder1> you got a cnc, cnc it up
[23:22:33] <CaptHindsight> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824016343 optical touch
[23:23:11] <tjtr33> here ya go Luke, mind control http://hackaday.com/2009/10/21/mind-control-via-serial-port/
[23:23:16] <XXCoder1> well later
[23:23:44] <CaptHindsight> new case and power supply, plus a lookover of how well they built the lcd controller board
[23:23:50] <XXCoder1> those droids are not droids we are looking for. move on. move on
[23:24:28] <CaptHindsight> tjtr33: did you get all the cats inside? storm are on the way :)
[23:25:16] <tjtr33> no cats here ! but i layed down the6x6 fence panels
[23:25:53] <CaptHindsight> " using brain waves as a controller via a DB9 serial port." what an assumption!
[23:26:15] <CaptHindsight> no brain, no effect
[23:26:45] <tjtr33> it was a toy, the 'force trainer' from starwars days
[23:27:14] <tjtr33> here ya go, the LeapMption device https://www.leapmotion.com/
[23:27:29] <tjtr33> its got a limited volume to gesture inside
[23:28:25] <CaptHindsight> there was nearly a whole floor of gesture devices at Computex back ~2010'
[23:28:35] <tjtr33> reminded me of Trillian tossing a pencil into Zaphod's volume sensitive space, turnng off the radio news of his stealing the spaceship ( hitchhikers guide )
[23:29:28] <tjtr33> i got some italian gestures to try on it ;) ( slams fist into palm, slapping wrist down )
[23:29:37] <CaptHindsight> was out earlier to test AMD laptops for latency, nobody had any
[23:30:00] <CaptHindsight> heh, driving gestures on I-94
[23:31:07] <tjtr33> theres a computer recycler in Chi, i've thought about drop[ping a live cd off and offering a bounty for good units under some threshold for 24 hr burn in
[23:31:39] <CaptHindsight> I need brand spanking new hardware
[23:31:52] <tjtr33> http://freegeekchicago.org/donate oh, not new
[23:32:15] <CaptHindsight> 3411 W. Diversey Ave
[23:32:26] <tjtr33> weird hours
[23:32:37] <CaptHindsight> west logan, it's in an alley, the entrance anyway
[23:33:03] <tjtr33> yah gmapped it once
[23:33:29] <CaptHindsight> https://maps.google.com/maps?q=3411+W.+Diversey+Ave.,+Basement,+Chicago,+IL&ll=41.931409,-87.71228&spn=0.005906,0.009613&sll=41.931885,-87.712921&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&channel=sb&layer=c&cbp=13,185.59,,0,0.07&cbll=41.931969,-87.712909&hnear=3411+W+Diversey+Ave,+Chicago,+Illinois+60639&t=m&z=17&panoid=gh8jPVQnT5FpBBvbvKpDVw
[23:33:45] <CaptHindsight> yikes they should tinyurl those
[23:34:03] <CaptHindsight> http://goo.gl/maps/M9a75
[23:35:04] <tjtr33> so what hardware is your latest fav? amd still? got more than 1 full pci slot?
[23:35:32] <CaptHindsight> I'm reevaluating
[23:35:56] <CaptHindsight> AMD is just launching some new things this week at Computex
[23:36:22] <CaptHindsight> I stopped developing with Intel about 10 years ago
[23:37:16] <CaptHindsight> and the coerboot devs are working on some new AMD boards
[23:38:25] <CaptHindsight> http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4343#ov we were using these
[23:39:21] <CaptHindsight> and the https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/F2A85V_PRO/
[23:39:59] <CaptHindsight> lots of slots for multiple fpga cards
[23:42:03] <tjtr33> i was lookin at that, weird cooler pipe, yep likeevery oddball pci format in pairs
[23:42:21] <tjtr33> hey Bilbo, Frodo, Bardahl... the Ring gesture device https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1761670738/ring-shortcut-everything?ref=discovery
[23:44:15] <CaptHindsight> now if they could make those into 10 lb ankle bracelets and wrist bands
[23:44:30] <CaptHindsight> that require motion to charge
[23:46:18] <tjtr33> haha a green tech WOnder WOman bracelet
[23:46:24] <CaptHindsight> maybe I'll just drop all this cnc and 3d printing nonsense and start making krap kickstarter
[23:47:36] <tjtr33> or start new religions ( tjtr33's Universal School for Wayward Girls :)
[23:48:09] <tjtr33> wow, waaay OT, time to sleep bye bye