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[00:18:33] <renesis> jymmm: orange oil
[00:18:56] <ssi> someone sanity check my thinking please...
[00:19:08] <ssi> I'm redoing one of the axes of my plasma cutter, moving it from rack+pinion to belt drive
[00:19:30] <ssi> if I direct drive a 14 tooth XL pulley, .200" pitch on XL belt, that's 2.8" per revolution of linear travel
[00:19:45] <renesis> jymmm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limonene#Uses
[00:19:48] <ssi> on a 200 step motor that's 0.014" per step, yes?
[00:21:32] <Jymmm> renesis: Yeah, I even have some, toxic to pets
[00:22:20] <renesis> what pets?
[00:22:41] <renesis> https://www.google.com/shopping/product/9640646232696570709
[00:22:54] <renesis> i used that stuff when i was cat sitting, cat was fine
[00:23:13] <Jymmm> "Generally Recognized as Safe" =)
[00:23:23] <renesis> water can kill a mfkr
[00:24:01] <renesis> its orange peel concentrate with a sticky wax additive
[00:24:35] <renesis> im pretty sure its safe, its a but messy because of the waxy film, dust sticks to it
[00:25:00] <renesis> and it doesnt work that great because the limonene evaporates after a couple days
[00:25:47] <renesis> i guess it works by dissolving insect lung tissues, so it has to be significantly off gassing, so it cant last forever
[00:28:46] <Jymmm> renesis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limonene#Safety
[00:29:21] <Jymmm> the primary ingrediant in your spray (5.8%)
[00:30:16] <Jymmm> "14 day study" HA!
[00:47:23] <renesis> ive read the msds
[01:22:23] <zeeshan> YEA BABY
[01:22:26] <zeeshan> SPINDLE working
[01:23:00] <zeeshan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4LXBQkDpOM
[01:38:02] <MattyMatt> mm both ways
[02:09:02] <Deejay> moinsen
[06:58:35] <jthornton> dang internet is lumpy today
[08:10:54] <miss0r> SpeedEvil, you around?
[08:11:08] <SpeedEvil> maybe
[08:11:33] <miss0r> great, you answered my question yesterday about the pnc-3100 mill. I wasn't around to read it, sorry.
[08:12:06] <SpeedEvil> ah
[08:12:08] <miss0r> I have been searching the web for the original price of a pnc-3100 but I have come up empty. Do you have an idea about the price?
[08:12:16] <SpeedEvil> I have no idea.
[08:12:38] <miss0r> oh well, presumable somewhat more than tha ~1200 bucks
[08:12:56] <SpeedEvil> call the maker?
[08:13:24] <miss0r> I did, they told me to contact the supplier - but I have no idea where they sell/used to sell these
[08:14:49] <miss0r> The thing that worries me; will it run with LinuxCNC? it comes with mach3, which I have zero experience with
[09:30:03] <CaptHindsight> PNC3100 Engraver?
[09:31:03] <CaptHindsight> http://www.e-engraving.com/machines/roland/Roland_PNC-3100.htm this?
[09:40:23] <malcom2073> Arg, HAL is giving me a headache
[11:00:05] <JT-Shop> take two aspirins and use Show Hal Configuration
[11:00:52] <zeeshan> lol
[11:04:19] <archivist> when Hal says it cant let you do that, then you have to worry
[11:05:46] <zeeshan> i was noticing the other day
[11:05:53] <zeeshan> axis only has a clockwise button
[11:05:56] <zeeshan> but no counterclockwise :p
[11:06:07] <zeeshan> i had to use mdi to test the spindle
[11:06:10] <pcw_home> I'm sorry dave I cant do that
[11:57:05] <Jymmm> pcw_home: sudo hal make me a sandwich
[11:57:20] <jdh> poof. you are a sandwich.
[11:57:26] <Jymmm> =)
[12:10:18] <IchGuckLive> hi all
[12:11:29] <IchGuckLive> jdh: sandwiches are maid poutside in mass as today about 500 prople are comming in 3hr time ;-)
[12:12:01] <jdh> that's too many people.
[12:12:04] <jdh> to be near.
[12:12:28] * SpeedEvil ponders a CNC sandwitch machine.
[12:12:37] <IchGuckLive> zeeshan: there shoudtr be 2 buttons in axis clockwise and counterclockwise
[12:13:16] <jdh> f9/f10?
[12:15:49] <IchGuckLive> zeeshan: did you got all 2 inside your hal
[12:15:53] <IchGuckLive> net spindle-fwd motion.spindle-forward
[12:15:55] <IchGuckLive> net spindle-rev motion.spindle-reverse
[12:19:52] <IchGuckLive> malcom2073: still online
[12:24:52] <JT-Shop_> zeeshan, you have to trick axis to get the CCW button
[12:25:39] <malcom2073> Ich yep
[12:25:47] <IchGuckLive> headache why
[12:26:01] <XXCoder> hey ich
[12:26:34] <malcom2073> Was trying to figure out how to get analog reads working on the beaglebone, but i got it now.
[12:26:43] <IchGuckLive> malcom2073: you posted only this no clue to solve you headache the wizzard glass is in repai O.o
[12:26:59] <IchGuckLive> ;-)
[12:27:21] <IchGuckLive> malcom2073: running xenoai
[12:27:37] <malcom2073> Ich yeah
[12:31:49] <fogl> hello everybody, does anybody know is there a way for base_period component to know that the servo_period was also triggered?
[12:33:01] <malcom2073> IchGuckLive: The cape I'm using didn't have analog reading capabilities in its default hal file, even though it has 4 analog inputs :). I've got it reading them, now I just need to figure out the math to convert it to temperature for my temp sensors
[12:35:17] <archivist> fogl, are you asking the right question
[12:35:47] <fogl> why
[12:36:24] <IchGuckLive> archivist he trys to connect 2 realtime pc mashines via network
[12:36:36] <jdh> I don't think I'd buy a dedicated waterproof cam. I almost never take my cam because it is too distracting
[12:36:38] <jdh> <urk>
[12:36:44] <IchGuckLive> he needs a realtime TMDC trigger
[12:37:14] <IchGuckLive> malcom2073: that sounds like hotend 3D printing
[12:37:19] <malcom2073> IchGuckLive: yep
[12:39:10] <fogl> yes... what i was thinking was to use the base_period process to transmit all the data over ethernet (sync frame, data frames) during one servo_period
[12:39:26] <IchGuckLive> malcom2073: woudt be good to get this info spreded in the forium if you like to share
[12:40:26] <malcom2073> I plan on doing a writeup for the cape I'm using, and submitting these changes upstream so other users of thecape can use it, but most capes already have this stuff built in
[12:40:55] <IchGuckLive> fogl: did you look on theopen ethercat driver how it is done
[12:41:09] <malcom2073> With any luck, others using this cape won't have to go through this like I am :)
[12:42:18] <IchGuckLive> malcom2073: there are now to many out so i thought about that NEW tread 3D printing using beglebone in our forum
[12:43:26] <malcom2073> There are, but it doesn't look like a whole lot of people are actually using it for 3d printing, at least those who are, aren't talking much about it :)
[12:45:51] <IchGuckLive> yeah everyone is going to form its startup as SEP nears the open patent hotend
[12:46:19] <zeeshan> IchGuckLive: ahh i see
[12:46:26] <zeeshan> JT-Shop: hal trickery.
[12:46:29] <IchGuckLive> here in the area shops are growing like mashro
[12:46:38] <zeeshan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4LXBQkDpOM
[12:46:41] <zeeshan> i calculated
[12:46:47] <zeeshan> its putting out 220ft-lb of torque at this rpm!
[12:46:51] <IchGuckLive> you are the man
[12:46:59] <zeeshan> 9.13ft-lb at 1725rpm
[12:47:04] <zeeshan> 23:1 back gear ratio
[12:47:24] <IchGuckLive> thats hole a lot
[12:47:34] <zeeshan> should be good for tapping
[12:47:35] <zeeshan> i think
[12:47:46] <zeeshan> and breaking loose lug nuts
[12:47:47] <zeeshan> haha
[12:48:01] <zeeshan> i posted the wrong link.
[12:48:04] <IchGuckLive> its enmoph to kill you on wrong g-code
[12:48:18] <zeeshan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm1XW3RxvdE
[12:51:26] <zeeshan> i was trying to break my wrist
[12:52:15] <jdh> step away from the pr0n.
[12:52:56] <Jymmm> step away from the poor quality pr0n.
[13:13:38] <IchGuckLive> im off BBQ nice weather
[13:23:10] <fogl> can someone please tell me if my thinking is right: The base_thread period is equal to rt_timer period, which is set to periodic_mode?
[13:27:09] <fogl> And the servo_period is equal to integer*base period. So the servo_period process is triggered only at lower frequency, but at the same time as base_period process?
[13:28:07] <zeeshan> Anyone here rebuild a manual transmission before?
[13:28:22] <micges> fogl: yes to first question
[13:30:10] <micges> fogl: to be specific rt_timer is set to first created thread, so any next thread can be equal or integer times slower
[13:30:57] <archivist> zeeshan, I did a solenoid/manual driven box
[13:31:00] <revo14> hello im using inkscape to generate g-code but when i try to do it doesnt not work so i can see that------No paths are selected! Trying to work on all available paths.
[13:31:06] <zeeshan> archivist: i need help identifying
[13:31:11] <zeeshan> whetehr a syncronizer is good or not
[13:31:12] <zeeshan> =/
[13:31:18] <revo14> someone use that program?
[13:31:21] <zeeshan> i dont have much experience identifying good/bad syncros.
[13:31:33] <archivist> nor me
[13:31:38] <zeeshan> grr
[13:31:47] <zeeshan> dog boxes are so much easier
[13:31:50] <zeeshan> none of these fancy syncros in em.
[13:32:01] <archivist> I have also done a land rover box
[13:32:27] <archivist> that has synchos on 2 3 4 but not 1st iirc
[13:32:42] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/nvsW5Dz.jpg
[13:32:46] <zeeshan> this is what my 4th gear syncro looks like
[13:32:54] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/SCVV95r.jpg and 4th gear
[13:33:12] <zeeshan> the syncro i can tell doesn't look worn because i have a new syncro to reference from
[13:33:25] <zeeshan> but i can't tell if the 4th gear dog teeth are worn.
[13:33:30] * JT-Shop_ used to take the cast iron 3 speed out of the 81 C10 and toss out all the transmission parts I had in a big pile and pick the best to put it back together
[13:33:37] <archivist> the clever bit is the spring and brass bit
[13:34:49] <archivist> but that dont look like a cnc bit...get back to the proper job :)
[13:35:28] <zeeshan> lol
[13:37:23] <archivist> I was polishing/ restoring a little press yesterday
[13:37:46] <fogl> ok, thank you. What i am looking for is a base_period hal_module that knows when did the servo_period hal_module triger. How can i achieve that?
[13:38:13] <fogl> micges
[13:39:58] <micges> if it's your custom module then create function that you run at servo-thread and set there only flag that it was executed and this flag can be read and cleared in base period function in the same module
[13:41:32] <micges> fogl: ^^
[13:43:08] <fogl> micges: i see, good idea, thank you :) ...and what will execute firs, the base_thread module or the servo_thread module. Which one has higher priority?
[13:47:13] <micges> I have no idea
[13:48:42] <micges> fogl: I think slower thread can be suspended if faster thread is sheduled to run
[13:50:27] <cradek> which executes first is probably not known
[13:50:44] <cradek> but scheduling is rate-monotonic, which means faster threads can interrupt and suspend slower threads
[15:46:13] <miss0r> I am trying to locate a seller of EDC-XX24 tool collect sets. I am really having a hard time. Do you know where to acquire such?
[21:35:25] <PetefromTn_> Evening folks..
[21:36:41] <XXCoder1> hey
[21:38:16] <PetefromTn_> Hey whatzup?
[21:40:09] <XXCoder1> not much
[21:41:13] <PetefromTn_> Just finished drawing up a new version of this same part I have been making with some slight changes.
[21:41:47] <PetefromTn_> Unfortunately when I did the cam work I did not realize that the Origin was set to the top left corner of the part and I need it in the center of extents.
[21:42:05] <PetefromTn_> In my cam program I can move the part drawing origin quite easily.
[21:42:18] <PetefromTn_> However the Toolpaths I generated do not follow it...
[21:42:27] <PetefromTn_> At least I do not know how to make it follow it.
[21:42:39] <PetefromTn_> It may be able to I just don't know how.
[21:42:51] <PetefromTn_> I asked over on their forum to see if there is a way.
[21:42:56] <PetefromTn_> Waiting for a response.
[21:44:08] <XXCoder1> hmm hope you figure it
[21:44:29] <XXCoder1> right now i am trying to get archlinux to run on my touchpad. why not?
[21:47:32] <PetefromTn_> Can't help ya man. sorry.
[21:48:25] <XXCoder1> it worked lol
[21:48:38] <XXCoder1> just need to connect to it
[21:50:42] <PetefromTn_> nice...
[21:51:50] <Jymmm> connect to it?
[21:52:01] <Jymmm> buy it flowers and chocolate
[21:52:52] <XXCoder1> :P
[21:53:24] <Jymmm> XXCoder1: what did you mean though?
[21:53:43] <XXCoder1> VNC connection. basically remote desktop
[21:54:00] <Jymmm> why ?
[21:54:54] <XXCoder1> there is no why, just how to!
[21:54:56] <XXCoder1> ;)
[21:55:09] <Jymmm> why would you want to vnc to a tablet?
[21:55:20] <Jymmm> the other way around, sure.
[21:55:33] <XXCoder1> its conencting from android tablet os to linux running on same tablet
[21:55:41] <XXCoder1> odd hack but linux running on tablet
[21:56:05] <Jymmm> oh pffff, you're on your own there!
[21:56:39] <Jymmm> running two OSes off an arm at the same time.... lol
[21:56:48] <XXCoder1> yeah
[21:56:53] <Jymmm> Silly newbe!
[21:58:59] <PetefromTn_> Okay apparently there is a way to move the machining origin in the software.
[21:59:04] <PetefromTn_> I did that and it worked.
[21:59:10] <XXCoder1> nice
[21:59:19] <PetefromTn_> But the start points for the individual toolpaths did not move with it.
[21:59:26] <Jymmm> XXCoder1: and using ancient technology too (circa 2012)... GET WITH THE TIMES MAN!
[22:00:05] <XXCoder1> my touchpad is better than most tablets out there
[22:00:27] <Jymmm> and?
[22:01:03] <XXCoder1> it works well enough for me lol
[22:01:51] <Jymmm> eh, fair enough.
[22:02:58] <Jymmm> does pi work on vga?
[22:03:58] <XXCoder1> pi?
[22:04:53] <Jymmm> http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY%C2%AE-HDMI-ADAPTER-CONNECTOR-VGA/dp/B0088K7QUQ
[22:05:11] <XXCoder1> finally figured the damned vnc password lol
[22:05:47] <Jymmm> Raspberry Pi
[22:05:52] <Jymmm> XXCoder1: RTFM? lol
[22:06:11] <XXCoder1> its not listed anywhere at all
[22:06:27] <XXCoder1> luckly I figured password pattern from other distros defaults
[22:07:50] <Jymmm> which was?
[22:08:35] <XXCoder1> archlinux
[22:08:47] <Jymmm> oh geeze
[22:09:58] <XXCoder1> wow archlinux sucks
[22:10:12] <XXCoder1> it dont come with some software to get more programs
[22:10:23] <XXCoder1> big percent of distros out there do
[22:13:17] <XXCoder1> well will play with it more later
[22:20:01] <PetefromTn_> Makin' parts!!!!
[22:20:07] <XXCoder1> :)
[22:20:14] <XXCoder1> talking bout cncs
[22:20:24] <XXCoder1> yeserday i worked with cnc thats larger than my car lol
[22:20:36] <PetefromTn_> mine is larger than my car....
[22:20:36] <XXCoder1> but basic type, like what my cnc machine will be like
[22:20:47] <XXCoder1> large table type with giant ass gantry
[22:21:11] <PetefromTn_> I have two more of these to make tonight...
[22:21:32] <XXCoder1> making cncs?
[22:21:36] <XXCoder1> or [arts on that cnc?
[22:21:43] <PetefromTn_> parts..
[22:21:45] <PetefromTn_> ;)
[22:22:22] <XXCoder1> lol ok
[22:53:47] <PetefromTn_> Man this program is kinda long...
[22:54:01] <PetefromTn_> I need to tidy up the code if I am gonna make a bunch more of these LOL
[22:54:56] <PetefromTn_> I love midnight machining..
[23:12:37] <XXCoder1> lol
[23:12:51] <XXCoder1> I cant wait to play around with cnc
[23:13:38] <PetefromTn_> Its awesome man
[23:13:53] <XXCoder1> I think I will mostly start off with art
[23:13:55] <PetefromTn_> Once you have a good working machine that is... before that is is FRUSTRATING..
[23:13:59] <XXCoder1> in my culture stuff
[23:15:56] <XXCoder1> I just ordered 4 couplers
[23:16:03] <XXCoder1> 3 to use and one as backup. save postage
[23:17:44] <PetefromTn_> Sweet..
[23:17:57] <PetefromTn_> Making the second part right now. First one came out BEAUTIFUL!!
[23:18:27] <XXCoder1> yeah. last buys will be diffult :( I needs certain screws that will work with my nema23 and other stuff
[23:25:59] <PetefromTn_> Jeez this place has been dead as hell today..
[23:26:28] <XXCoder1> yeah
[23:26:31] <XXCoder1> oh well
[23:26:44] <XXCoder1> not as dead as #cnc though lol
[23:26:50] <XXCoder1> I'm been alone there for while. lol
[23:27:16] <XXCoder1> I guess channel owners left in 2004 or so, as last used date shows
[23:32:58] <PetefromTn_> I guess everyone has better things to do huh.
[23:33:47] <PetefromTn_> I did manage to get a nice Scientific calculator/graphing calculator on craigslist for a song.
[23:34:02] <PetefromTn_> The guy I worked in the shop with uses one to figure out feeds and speeds.
[23:34:13] <PetefromTn_> He told me if I get one he will help me program it.
[23:34:20] <PetefromTn_> We did it over the phone last night.
[23:34:27] <PetefromTn_> Now I can try to learn how he does it.
[23:34:27] <XXCoder1> nice
[23:34:49] <XXCoder1> i probably will use
http://zero-divide.net/index.php?page=fswizard
[23:34:50] <PetefromTn_> It is actually pretty simple but you need to know chip loads etc to use it.
[23:35:00] <PetefromTn_> Yeah that is actually what I have been using.
[23:35:02] <XXCoder1> has limitions though like no plywood and some others
[23:35:36] <PetefromTn_> I got a TI 83 plus..
[23:35:44] <PetefromTn_> They are like $90.00 new or so.
[23:35:52] <PetefromTn_> I got this one for $25.00
[23:36:07] <PetefromTn_> It is so brand new looking and the guy even put fresh batteries in it LOL
[23:36:16] <PetefromTn_> I love getting a good deal.
[23:36:22] <XXCoder1> I still have my ti 83 from college days
[23:36:36] <XXCoder1> hmm I should check it batteries soon thoygh been few years
[23:36:39] <PetefromTn_> Damn good calculator
[23:37:38] <XXCoder1> yeah
[23:37:42] <XXCoder1> played games on it too lol
[23:38:36] <PetefromTn_> they have games?
[23:39:15] <XXCoder1> yeah simple ones, but probably cant find on internet nowdays
[23:39:46] <PetefromTn_> I went to look at a car yesterday...
[23:39:58] <PetefromTn_> Trying to find another Pontiac Fiero GT project car.
[23:40:12] <PetefromTn_> Drove all the way up to Kentucky about three hours one way.
[23:40:21] <PetefromTn_> Guy had a real nice looking one in pictures.
[23:40:31] <PetefromTn_> Got there and it looked nice indeed.
[23:40:46] <PetefromTn_> Was about ready to buy it but we jacked it up and I started to look for rust.
[23:41:22] <PetefromTn_> the whole rear frame rails in the back were rusted like swiss cheese..
[23:41:22] <PetefromTn_> I was so bummed out.
[23:41:22] <XXCoder1> and you found good mine for iron oxide?
[23:41:37] <XXCoder1> ow
[23:42:08] <PetefromTn_> man it was bad..
[23:42:08] <PetefromTn_> Sucks too because it was a pretty car.
[23:42:08] <PetefromTn_> The price was right too..
[23:42:34] <XXCoder1> maybe if you could make new frame
[23:42:39] <XXCoder1> and cut price by half again
[23:44:32] <XXCoder1> wonder if this would work
http://www.amazon.com/Socket-Internal-Threaded-Threads-Imported/dp/B00598DI9I/ref=sr_1_5?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1401596776&sr=1-5&keywords=%2310+screw
[23:44:56] <PetefromTn_> Drove up there and spent a bunch of gas money and lunch and snacks for nothing.
[23:44:56] <PetefromTn_> Yeah I actually have the tools and skills to fix the whole damn thing but I did not want to start off a project like this and have to tear the whole damn car apart...
[23:44:56] <PetefromTn_> The bodywork on the car was pretty nice...
[23:45:16] <XXCoder1> too bad really
[23:46:50] <XXCoder1> I dont understand that stats though
[23:47:04] <XXCoder1> it says length of 10 mm but head length of 1 1/4 inches??
[23:47:24] <XXCoder1> head diameter of 1 7/8 inch
[23:47:27] <XXCoder1> bit of wtf
[23:47:54] <PetefromTn_> for what?
[23:48:03] <XXCoder1> amazon link I just pasted here
[23:48:09] <PetefromTn_> yup..
[23:48:21] <XXCoder1> probably bulk bolt for my cnc
[23:48:25] <XXCoder1> not sure
[23:49:08] <XXCoder1> since its so cheap I probably could order 2 packs for total of 200 and cut some to length
[23:53:05] <XXCoder1> anyway should look at lowes first or something
[23:55:07] <PetefromTn_> get it from Mcmaster carr...
[23:55:17] <XXCoder1> ok
[23:55:33] <XXCoder1> I gonna do some planning first so I dont get stuck with too few or too many :(
[23:55:36] <XXCoder1> er :)
