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[00:47:24] <paul_liebenberg> Hi, had a computer failure - now trying to get back up and running. Re installed linuxcnc, copied my old .ini file. When I home, Z axis backs off the limit switch, but readout does not zero, goes to other number (1.032 i think) X and Y are working as expect them to. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[00:47:29] <paul_liebenberg> http://hastebin.com/abiwoyepij.avrasm
[01:01:03] <MrHindsight> paul_liebenberg: did you also copy over your HAL file?
[01:02:06] <paul_liebenberg> yeah, i'm pretty sure i did
[01:03:27] <MrHindsight> z is the only axis that is acting up?
[01:05:29] <MrHindsight> you are using HOME_SEQUENCE = 1 for X and Y, but HOME_SEQUENCE = 0 for Z
[01:13:29] <paul_liebenberg> Zis the only one that acts up. Z homes first, then x and y together.
[01:44:15] <archivist> paul_liebenberg, using a parallel port?
[02:13:14] <Deejay> moin
[02:18:47] <MrSunshine> MrHindsight, you sure you set the home offset to the right way ?
[02:18:53] <MrSunshine> (should not be -0.1) ?
[02:19:25] <MrSunshine> it moves to the switch, gets a signal, then backs off until it loses signal again ? =)
[02:20:13] <MrSunshine> im just speculating here so :p
[02:22:04] <MrSunshine> is the latch velocity going the right way ?
[02:22:41] <MrSunshine> as the others have search vel negative and latch positive, and Z has search vel positive and latch positive ... shouldnt the latch be negative on that? =)
[02:54:17] <ebrummer> any chance Mr. Peter Wallace is awake right now?
[02:59:29] <ebrummer> figured not. take care all
[04:13:54] <miss0r> Does anyone here have experience with the arboga u2508 spindle nut? I need to find a 3mt er25 tool collect, with some sort of sleeve that fits inside this spindle nut, to help keep the tool collect in place.
[08:59:48] <Loetmichel> *solder* *tinker*... soo, first PSU board nearly done. then second, and hopefully tomorrow the transformers and 10 turn pors will be delivered... ->
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14898
[09:21:37] <CaptHindsight> MrSunshine: I think you're asking the wrong person :)
[10:20:16] <paul_liebenberg> archivist: sorry fell asleep last night, yes, I am using a parallel port.
[10:26:44] <archivist_> some parallel ports vary in pull up resistors so may work differently, may just need to add a resistor
[10:28:00] <paul_liebenberg> Mr sunshine, It act like I think it should, moves to the limit switch, then backs off and stops. DRO just does not reset to zero. Frustrating because it worked on the old computer.
[11:05:29] <paul_liebenberg> Is there a way to manually reset home counter to zero after the homing process has finished?
[11:16:29] <sliptonic> Hey seb_kuzminsky do you have time for a private conversation?
[11:54:07] <XXCoder1> what the hell
http://www.amazon.com/80-20-Inc-Series-Bearing/dp/B006YVZ4AU/ref=pd_sim_sbs_indust_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=00CBH82XM0Z14P5P202D
[11:54:37] <XXCoder1> probably cant take cnc stress though
[12:03:59] <Loetmichel> XXCoder1: first: its not with ball bearings. the glide type liear slides are not "balcklas-free" and tip a bit on its rails.
[12:04:23] <XXCoder1> yeah figured it was bad for cnc router
[12:04:37] <Loetmichel> second: the aluminium extrusions are not ground to fit, the slots are not guranteed to hold that kind of precision
[12:04:58] <Loetmichel> and usually an aluminium extrision tends to be bent like a banana
[12:06:03] <Loetmichel> so: will work for positioning pourposes, but not for anythin which needs 0,1mm and better precision.
[12:06:03] <XXCoder1> ok
[12:06:54] <Loetmichel> besides: the PTFE/POM that is used as a glide there is not as rigid as a steel ball. it may flex in the slots and add to the distorsion
[12:07:46] <XXCoder1> lol figuring if I should do partial 8020 or not
[12:07:53] <XXCoder1> probably not though
[12:08:10] <XXCoder1> wish I had samples in hand to check some stuff.
[12:09:17] <archivist_> I rate them -10000
[12:09:40] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:10:09] <IchGuckLive> paul_liebenberg: still online
[12:10:17] <XXCoder1> hey ich
[12:10:22] <IchGuckLive> ;-)
[12:10:36] <IchGuckLive> you got a homing issue on frech install
[12:10:46] <XXCoder1> ZI finally got funds :) I plan to order ball screws fairly soon
[12:13:14] <XXCoder1> http://www.ebay.com/itm/250451252435
[12:14:10] <IchGuckLive> XXCoder1: next tak to you if you got runing desigb
[12:15:24] <XXCoder1> I do have couple ideas
[12:15:37] <IchGuckLive> you got since 2month
[12:16:15] <XXCoder1> yeah slow progress lol
[12:16:45] <IchGuckLive> someone shoudt have told liebenberg that there are some issues in his config files
[12:28:45] <MrSunshine> CaptHindsight, haha ok :PO
[12:30:48] <kfoltman> IchGuckLive: 2 months is nothing, I have couple ideas (+ various poorly thought out purchases) for the last 6 months at least ;)
[12:31:23] <kfoltman> + half built prototypes that kinda do something
[12:32:38] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: he's still around, point away
[12:35:12] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: did so 2 times since entering
[12:35:45] <IchGuckLive> paul_liebenberg: still online ?
[12:35:50] <IchGuckLive> ;-)
[12:36:30] <CaptHindsight> heh
[12:36:52] <IchGuckLive> he copied all the files but did not remove the var and or the var.bak
[12:37:11] <IchGuckLive> so the homing is intersepted by some vars
[12:37:43] <CaptHindsight> ah, cache-like cruft
[12:38:27] <IchGuckLive> also he did not followed the standard rule on parport backlash
[12:38:52] <CaptHindsight> so he could also just change the machine name and then use the contents of his HAL and INI
[12:39:40] <IchGuckLive> this ini seams to come from 2.4.x
[12:39:58] <IchGuckLive> he installed 2.5.0 and maybe dident update to 2.5.3
[12:40:13] <IchGuckLive> so he got a G92 performance running
[12:40:14] <CaptHindsight> whats the standard rule for backlash? I never used it since my machines have zero lash
[12:40:32] <IchGuckLive> no 125% 200
[12:42:32] <IchGuckLive> kfoltman: that is the strandard but he owns only a pc
[12:43:59] <kfoltman> IchGuckLive: uh, hard to do 3 axis linear motion with only components from a single PC...
[12:44:13] <IchGuckLive> ;-)
[12:44:14] <kfoltman> even if you sacrifice all the disk drives ;)
[12:44:26] <IchGuckLive> it works
[12:44:38] <IchGuckLive> ive seen 2DVD running linuxcnc
[12:45:30] <IchGuckLive> Dont missunderstand me im happy he is arround !
[12:48:24] <IchGuckLive> By the way there is a big probability that i will be offline for a long time from 30.Aug this year going to world trip in the outback
[12:51:15] <IchGuckLive> ve7it: is this your radio callsign
[12:51:57] <ve7it> yes... Canadian callsign for British Columbia (VE7)
[12:52:22] <IchGuckLive> i dont think i can retch canada from here
[12:52:31] <IchGuckLive> Dl6iam
[12:53:02] <ve7it> It is a long way... I am on Vancouver Island off the west coast of Canada
[12:53:34] <IchGuckLive> thats near half the earth diameter
[12:54:24] <ve7it> I usually just check into the local net here on 3.729Mhz in the evenings...
[12:55:40] <IchGuckLive> Saskatchewan 2 Meter Net
[12:56:08] <ve7it> 14 or 21Mhz would be better, but I dont have a beam antenna. I am using a 85m loop of wire
[12:56:09] <IchGuckLive> BC Public Service
[12:56:15] <ve7it> yes
[12:56:43] <IchGuckLive> i only got 10m local now setup as i do so many other things
[12:57:53] <IchGuckLive> ve7it: its early sunday at your home
[12:58:03] <IchGuckLive> here sun is going down
[12:58:28] <ve7it> 10:40am, a nice sunny day
[12:58:36] <IchGuckLive> tomorrow summer is starting here as the weather ladie told today
[12:58:38] <ve7it> about 18C
[12:58:50] <IchGuckLive> 24C here
[12:59:42] <IchGuckLive> ve7it: whas has been left after the big olympic winter event
[13:01:40] <ve7it> lots of the sports venues... speed skating rink, luge(sp?) track, olympic village is now all private condos...
[13:02:10] <IchGuckLive> so it has been a boost to the region
[13:02:44] <IchGuckLive> ive seen VE7QJ earl on 40m in 2009
[13:05:03] <IchGuckLive> ok im off for today IF Anyone can direct libenbert to my online timings at 7pmDayli + Berlin time woudt be good
[13:05:03] <ve7it> the call seems familiar, but I dont know Earl
[13:05:19] <ve7it> cheers
[13:05:32] <IchGuckLive> BYE have a nice sunday where ever you are in the world
[13:49:26] <zq_> is there a way to compile without tcl dependencis?
[14:23:42] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfdcJlfUGxo#t=57 interesting slow vat separation method for bottom projection SLA/DLP
[14:41:07] <XXCoder1> woder if linuxcnc can run on
http://crunchbang.org/about
[14:41:16] <XXCoder1> I like bare OS sometimes
[14:42:44] <archivist_> tias
[14:45:23] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder1: if all the dependencies are met and if you get a working kernel
[14:45:46] <XXCoder1> yeah bit too much hassle for linuxcnc when basic install just works.
[14:46:25] <CaptHindsight> http://www.linuxmint.com/
[14:46:40] <XXCoder1> I wasnt too impressed with mint
[14:46:46] <XXCoder1> but then it was year ago
[14:46:50] <CaptHindsight> the debian version with gnome is closest
[14:47:10] <XXCoder1> I could just replace desktop with xfce
[14:47:15] <XXCoder1> takes pretty lot load off
[14:48:17] <CaptHindsight> I never have load issues using AMD and integrated graphics
[14:49:17] <CaptHindsight> play HD video and games while running Linuxcnc
[14:53:21] <zq_> lol
[14:53:22] <zq_> guys
[14:53:30] <zq_> i'm writing an $EMCDISPLAY in haskell
[14:53:34] <zq_> so much fun
[14:54:45] <Jymmm> Whats the right phrasing when you have correct linear motion, but the tool (spindle, plasma, laser, edm, etc) it's operating in conjunction with the motion? Let's say the plasma doesn't fire when it's suppose to but only in the X-Axis as example.
[14:55:03] <Jymmm> s/it's/isn't/
[14:56:32] <Jymmm> is that trajectory?
[14:56:43] <Jymmm> (doens't seems right though)
[14:57:37] <Einar1> Bad G-code?
[14:58:18] <CaptHindsight> not in sync
[14:58:40] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Yeah, that's close. but not exactly it.
[14:59:12] <CaptHindsight> depends on what is wrong and what you wish to describe
[14:59:15] <Einar1> If not in exact stop motion I guess that might happen.
[15:02:38] <zeeshan> 5" Jaw Width 6" Jaw Capacity 3 1/4" Throat Capacity
[15:02:46] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/XYidSO0.jpg
[15:02:50] <zeeshan> how much would you guys pay for that?
[15:03:02] <zeeshan> (im trying to gage what a fair price is) :P
[15:03:11] <zeeshan> guy is selling for $50
[15:04:43] <pcw_home> No hammer dings on the handle is a +
[15:05:34] <zeeshan> jaw capacity = how much it opens right?
[15:05:34] <zeeshan> ;p
[15:05:46] <pcw_home> Must be
[15:05:48] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Hey, are you familure with trajectory planning by chance?
[15:06:02] <zeeshan> than ku
[15:06:08] <pcw_home> Only a bit
[15:06:21] <Jymmm> pcw_home: PM ?
[15:06:31] <pcw_home> Aight
[15:17:13] <Loetmichel> *cough* *sniff* *eyes watering*... my wife is a bit over the top with the balkony plants. again. and the little red ones in the middle are bad boys... *lips are slowly gaining back feel* ->
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14901
[15:25:54] <DaViruz> pcw_home: what kind of shipping costs can i expect for a 5i25+7i76-kit to sweden?
[15:28:20] <pcw_home> USPS is cheapest (The web store shipping prices are broken ATM will try and fix these next week)
[15:36:37] <micges> pcw_home: DaViruz: I think USPS won't do the duties
[15:36:42] <micges> but it's cheapest
[15:37:06] <DaViruz> that's not a problem
[15:52:39] <XXCoder1> https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/10352752_441950582616517_5572913085628434278_n.jpg
[15:54:24] <XXCoder1> my camera is aging. getting grainy :(
[16:01:00] <Deejay> gn8
[16:28:20] <yoshimitsuspeed> I could use a little more help if anyone has the time.
[16:28:22] <yoshimitsuspeed> Replies here or in the thread work for me. I am really hoping I can get this thing moving on it's own today.
[16:28:24] <yoshimitsuspeed> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/27837-my-build-and-questions#47035
[16:52:23] <kfoltman> XXCoder1: I think it's just low light causing high ISO
[16:52:37] <XXCoder1> hmm maybe
[16:52:48] <kfoltman> high gain = high noise
[16:55:29] <XXCoder1> yeah. it had some sunlight but guess it wast enough, with frosrted glass
[16:56:42] <Jymmm> Are those chinese scope any good?
[17:05:08] <Tom_itx> oscilloscope?
[17:05:18] <Tom_itx> rikol sp? seem to be
[17:06:38] <Jymmm> that's what I'm hearing too
[17:06:59] <Tom_itx> rigol
[17:07:49] <Tom_itx> a few guys in #avr have m
[17:07:50] <Tom_itx> em
[17:08:07] <Tom_itx> http://www.dx.com/p/rigol-ds1052e-5-6-tft-lcd-50mhz-2-channel-digital-color-storage-oscilloscope-30573#.U3krEXZ-iQA
[17:08:40] <Tom_itx> there's a hack for it for 100Mhz but it strains the ADC so i'd suggest if you want 100Mhz, buy 100Mhz
[17:10:18] <Jymmm> I think I'd do amazon
[17:10:39] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmJ2pZloW18
[17:10:44] <Tom_itx> they ordered from dx with no problems
[17:10:52] <Tom_itx> i've always had good luck with them
[17:11:01] <Tom_itx> amazon is just a bigger name
[17:11:17] <Tom_itx> still just a broker
[17:11:22] <Jymmm> http://www.amazon.com/SDS7102-Digital-Oscilloscope-2-channel-interface/dp/B006G54K3G
[17:12:52] <Tom_itx> 4.5 star with 23 reviews
[17:13:16] <Tom_itx> Rigol is 5 star with 39
[17:13:42] <Tom_itx> if you're staring at the night sky...
[17:29:37] <kfoltman> XXCoder1: this
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/151187409891 should arrive tomorrow
[17:38:53] <Jymmm> Tom_itx:
http://www.amazon.com/Tektronix-TDS1002B-Oscilloscope-Bandwidth-Monochrome/dp/B00A4LKBZY/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
[17:40:22] <Tom_itx> do you need 100Mhz or is 50 enough?
[17:40:47] <Tom_itx> that's more than the 100Mhz Rigol
[17:40:48] <Jymmm> I think 50 would be enough, that one is 60
[17:41:06] <Tom_itx> the Rigol 50 is 300ish
[17:56:14] <MrHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hantek-DSO5102P-Digital-Oscilloscope-100MHz-1Gs-2CH-7-TFT-USB-Lab-/141248679561 I see these at the markets in China
[18:03:14] <MrHindsight> http://www.openhantek.org/ this looks interesting as well
[19:49:24] <yoshimitsuspeed> So it sounds like many people run two motors to run one axis. Why is it so hard to find any documentation or support on setting this up?
[19:49:26] <yoshimitsuspeed> I have spent hours searching and have only found a couple threads with convoluted info, contradicting info and enough missing pieces to just leave me confused and frusterated.
[19:50:10] <yoshimitsuspeed> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/27837-my-build-and-questions#47035
[19:51:24] <yoshimitsuspeed> I don't understand what people mean by the $ hotkey. Can I just use shift 4 are are they talking about something else?
[19:51:43] <yoshimitsuspeed> If I go into the view tab I see no option to switch into or out of world mode.
[19:55:38] <CaptHindsight> yoshimitsuspeed: you need to edit the INI with a text editor
[19:56:15] <yoshimitsuspeed> But once I edit the ini I can no longer make changes in stepconf because it will overwrite it.
[19:56:17] <CaptHindsight> if you use stepconf it will discard configuration changes made outside stepconf.
[19:56:30] <yoshimitsuspeed> Furthermore there is no solid info on how to edit the ini
[19:56:38] <CaptHindsight> so edit the file with a text editor
[19:57:31] <yoshimitsuspeed> But what all do I need to do?
[19:57:33] <yoshimitsuspeed> I copied and pasted the info from the y axis to the a axis.
[19:57:49] <yoshimitsuspeed> I still can't figure out how to get into world mode.
[19:58:15] <yoshimitsuspeed> I also need to reverse the direction on the z axis but I can't figure out where the screw pitch is in the ini.
[19:58:34] <zeeshan> i keep forgetting the name
[19:58:40] <zeeshan> for that sds pulley website
[19:58:45] <zeeshan> someone hook me up please :D
[19:59:18] <yoshimitsuspeed> It also seems ridiculous that I can't use stepconf to make changes evermore after I edit the ini manually. WTF is that about?
[19:59:52] <PetefromTn_> sdp si
[20:00:00] <CaptHindsight> because you can make edits outside of what stepconf has for options
[20:00:01] <zeeshan> thank u
[20:00:05] <zeeshan> i dont know why i cant remember it
[20:00:07] <jdh> stock drive products
[20:00:18] <zeeshan> jdh can you show me the pics of your cnc
[20:00:23] <zeeshan> i cant figure out how to mount the X stepper
[20:00:25] <CaptHindsight> this would make a mess of the INI
[20:00:28] <jdh> 'cause, they stock drive products.
[20:00:32] <zeeshan> direct drive would make it stick out a lot
[20:00:33] <jdh> z: which one?
[20:00:33] <zeeshan> =/
[20:00:46] <zeeshan> lathe
[20:01:07] <jdh> http://tinyurl.com/k3hxup3
[20:01:44] <zeeshan> ah, you made your own carriage
[20:01:46] <zeeshan> i forgot :P
[20:02:07] <zeeshan> my stepper wont fit there =/
[20:02:10] <zeeshan> lemme snap a couple pics
[20:02:31] <jdh> hang it off the back
[20:02:34] <jdh> spin the nut
[20:10:21] <zeeshan> http://imgur.com/a/Uu5VI
[20:10:23] <zeeshan> thats what im dealing with
[20:10:42] <zeeshan> either i do it like the first pic and have to order some sdp pulleys
[20:10:48] <zeeshan> or direct drive like the second pic
[20:11:11] <zeeshan> what i don't like about it will get inthe way
[20:11:15] <zeeshan> when im trying to manually do stuff :p
[20:13:28] <XXCoder1> bit opf progress I see
[20:13:39] <zeeshan> kind of
[20:13:44] <zeeshan> still trying to figur eout how to mount the x stepper
[20:14:23] <XXCoder1> I'm still figuring how to score some nema23 mount plates lol
[20:14:31] <zeeshan> make em
[20:14:32] <zeeshan> :P
[20:14:33] <XXCoder1> I dont think I can mount it using wood
[20:14:36] <XXCoder1> make
[20:14:53] <XXCoder1> but same time I do plan to buy drill press soonish
[20:16:04] <CaptHindsight> anyone have a good source for 24mm panel mount push button switches?
[20:18:34] <XXCoder1> handcraft em? ;)
[20:19:45] <Jymmm> Do smt capacitors go bad?
[21:22:55] <tjtr33> Jymmm, dunno about smt caps, but i just ripped a dozen radials off a drive p/s.
[21:23:16] <tjtr33> the designer used bridge rectifiers for +/1 by adding 2 caps across +/- , making the common point the '0'V.
[21:23:18] <tjtr33> as the caps age, the ps is no longer 1/2&1/2. my +/-12 was +9,-15!
[21:28:37] <Jymmm> lovely... NOT!
