#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-05-08

[00:02:59] <zeeshan|2> http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/Stainless-Steel/3-Pc-Stainless-Steel-Canister-Set/8178014.p
[00:03:03] <zeeshan|2> i wonder what kind of stainless theyre using
[00:03:05] <zeeshan|2> thats so cheap
[00:03:20] <zeeshan|2> would be nice to cut em and use the bottoms
[00:14:54] <zeeshan|2> anyone got a cnc metal spinner? :D
[00:15:03] <zeeshan|2> http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_4nG-iaIVxU0%2FTQljxq3lqJI%2FAAAAAAAAAzs%2FqY33ww7DXzU%2Fs1600%2FP1000916.JPG&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fearlgpowell.blogspot.com%2F2010%2F12%2Fmetal-spinning-for-techshop-light.html&h=1200&w=1600&tbnid=hJp07x3oeZaVCM%3A&zoom=1&docid=53kjnxWfCwPbeM&ei=eA5rU5GpO4GOyASZgoHoAg&tbm=isch&client=firefox-a&ved=0CEsQMyhDMEM4ZA&iact=rc&uact=3&
[00:15:03] <zeeshan|2> er
[00:15:07] <zeeshan|2> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4nG-iaIVxU0/TQljxq3lqJI/AAAAAAAAAzs/qY33ww7DXzU/s1600/P1000916.JPG
[00:15:10] <zeeshan|2> so gorgeous
[00:16:22] <FrankZappa> giantess robot nipples
[00:17:24] <zeeshan|2> the metal spinning lathes look so expensive :{
[00:19:05] <FrankZappa> Get the real thing.
[00:19:07] <FrankZappa> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkFdJwW_0GI
[00:19:24] <FrankZappa> Only Lurch can fabricate your deco fume fan caps.
[00:19:45] <zeeshan|2> thats a serious lathe
[00:19:46] <zeeshan|2> lol
[00:20:02] <FrankZappa> get with the program or go back to SOHO
[02:06:48] <Valen00> heres a question is there a simple way to home to the index pulse on the encoder
[02:06:55] <Valen00> then do some tsting
[02:07:11] <Valen00> and see if the index pulse is now in the wrong place?
[02:08:01] <Valen00> i'm trying to see if my encoders are getting noise
[02:10:00] <Deejay> moin
[02:18:33] <Jymmm> hi
[02:19:51] <Deejay> huhu Jymmm :)
[02:50:54] <eren_basturk> hi
[02:51:05] <eren_basturk> i have some problem with stepgen
[02:51:42] <eren_basturk> if it is possible could you check for my question
[02:51:44] <eren_basturk> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/machinekit/XTXhCcfuEyY
[04:31:03] <Loetmichel> *hrhr* if you dont have a stepped drill: use the CNC... ;-) -> http://youtu.be/V6-YwG9dv7A
[04:31:15] <Loetmichel> ... and always look out for your finges ;-)
[04:31:18] <Loetmichel> +r
[04:34:18] <Loetmichel> btw: who asked yesterday if the cnc6040 is rigid ynough for aluminiium: it is ;-) (see video)
[05:15:49] <jdh> that looks awfully fast for such a tiny mill
[05:38:37] <Loetmichel> .2mm per step deep and outer drill 3,5mm inner drill 2,5mm with a 2mm mill bit ;)
[05:38:47] <Loetmichel> @ jdh
[06:15:33] <eren_basturk> can I define two threads in hal file
[06:15:59] <eren_basturk> i mean that can I define servo and base thread in hal file?
[06:32:52] <Loetmichel> hmm, can anyone see a thinking error or can i mill that mini-itx enclosure from 1,5mm aluminium sheet now? -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14874
[06:34:30] <jdh> still looks like it woudl tend to snap that bit moving that fast
[06:35:12] <jdh> do you get good Al sheet? Everything I have tried is gummy and doesn't cut for crap
[06:35:26] <archivist_herron> no corner tabs and screw holes
[06:35:27] <Loetmichel> i use standaed alMg3
[06:35:30] <Loetmichel> standard
[06:35:36] <Loetmichel> works like a charm
[06:36:02] <Loetmichel> dont buy in the home depot, they sell the "eanodizing" quality which is VERY gummy
[06:36:27] <Loetmichel> archivist: corners will be sealed by self adhesive copper tape
[06:38:04] <archivist_herron> so the adhesive is an insulator :)
[06:38:18] <Loetmichel> it isnt
[06:38:25] <Loetmichel> the coppertape conducs
[06:38:33] <Loetmichel> the adhesicve also ;-)=
[06:39:24] <archivist_herron> conducts to ally that has insulating oxide ?
[06:39:52] <Loetmichel> archivist: thaTS WHAT GRINDING PAPER IS FOR ,-9
[06:39:59] <Loetmichel> oh, sorry, capslock
[07:03:23] <MrSunshine> hmm is there any nice way to check if all axis are homed in hal ?
[07:03:43] <MrSunshine> or do i need to make like two and thingies and and all the axis.n.homed together? :/
[07:04:07] <jthornton> halui
[07:04:17] <MrSunshine> what signal ? =)
[07:04:32] <MrSunshine> been looking at them and do not find anything i thoguth was good ..
[07:05:25] <MrSunshine> halui.home-all i guess is the signal starting the home sequence
[07:06:29] <jthornton> halui.joint.N.is-homed bit out status pin telling that joint N is homed
[07:07:27] <MrSunshine> yes, but i want a "all-homed" ... as if one axis is unhomed and you try and call an mdi command linuxcnc just commits suicide :P
[07:07:57] <MrSunshine> so do i need to make two and blocks and plow em all together into my own signal "all-homed" ? =)
[07:08:49] <jthornton> you could use as many and2's as needed
[07:09:10] <jthornton> but I'm sure there is a better way
[07:10:00] <MrSunshine> well i guess its realy an non issue as when i turn on the machine i home it ... and all axes are homed after that, but i hate bugs in my stuff and specialy after i found them :P
[07:11:00] <MrSunshine> got it now so i cannot call the mdi command when axis is not homed, if i home all i can call it .. (checking each individual axes if its homed) but if i unhome one, that one works (wont call mdi command) but then i try and call mdi command on other axes (that actualy is still homed) then i get "cannot issue mdi command when not homed" and then the pendant stops working :P
[07:11:44] <jthornton> either disable the homing requirement or check for all axes to be homed
[07:13:02] <MrSunshine> can yuo disable homing requirement ? (that it wont complain about not homed when not homed when issuing mdi commands?) =)
[07:14:14] <jthornton> NO_FORCE_HOMING = 1
[07:14:28] <jthornton> [TRAJ] section
[07:16:12] <jthornton> also see http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/ini_homing.html#_immediate_homing
[08:26:10] <MrSunshine> ahh i can just make myself a and3 component
[08:26:19] <MrSunshine> and use that insted of having a billion and2 =)
[08:27:08] <archivist> could be and9 for all 9 axes and you send it in :)
[08:27:42] <MrSunshine> huh ? =)
[08:43:14] <cpresser> MrSunshine: you can also use lut4 if you only have 3 inputs
[08:44:18] <pcw_home> lut5 I think
[08:45:17] <cpresser> almost :)
[08:46:09] <pcw_home> 0xFFFFFFFE is a 5 input OR gate
[08:50:55] <jthornton> 0x800000 is a 3 input AND gate... I think
[08:51:03] <jthornton> I knew there was a better way
[08:51:35] <jthornton> MrSunshine, http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/hal/rtcomps.html#sec:lut5
[08:51:57] <cpresser> or in the manpage: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/lut5.9.html
[08:53:03] <jthornton> the manual has a bit more info
[09:02:46] <pcw_home> 0x80808080 would be a 3 input and gate
[09:03:03] <pcw_home> 0x80000000 is a 5 input and gate
[09:04:03] <jthornton> is the man page example wrong? about a 3 input and gate?
[09:04:21] <pcw_home> (3 input meaning the other inputs are dont-care)
[09:04:56] <jthornton> ah ok
[09:05:11] <jthornton> I see I picked the wrong example anyhow
[09:05:46] <pcw_home> probably though it may be a bit pedantic (though with a 5 input and gate you would need to tie the unused inputs high)
[09:07:10] <pcw_home> I guess unused inputs default to 0
[09:11:57] <MrSunshine> oh thanks =)
[09:12:14] <MrSunshine> better to use already existing components =)
[09:13:35] <MrSunshine> oh so a 2 input and gate would just be "0x8" then ?
[09:14:20] <pcw_home> 2 input would be 0x88888888
[09:14:30] <MrSunshine> hmm
[09:14:34] <MrSunshine> i dont understand how that is? :P
[09:14:35] <cpresser> depends on bits 4-2
[09:14:52] <cpresser> assume the are zero, then 0x8 seems correct
[09:15:29] <pcw_home> its ok for an OR gate because the default state of the other inputs is 0
[09:19:25] <cpresser> same for an 2-bits-AND gate. when its inputs are 00011 (upper 3 bits unconnected=0) i want it to output a 1. zero otherwise
[09:19:41] <cpresser> so 0x8 should do the trick
[09:49:43] <pcw_home> The paranoid programmer in me says 0x88888888 is safer
[10:02:09] <skunkworks> I still don'
[10:02:34] <skunkworks> I still don't understand how lut works.. so far everytime I have needed a certain logic - someone has figured it out for me...
[10:09:22] <skunkworks> fedex
[11:33:35] <Loetmichel> *grrr... sure thing: made an construction error at the enclosure. Lind as wide as body: how to put in the screw flanges? $ will make another lid in 3mm less wide tomorrwo :-(
[11:34:06] <Loetmichel> "me
[12:28:22] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:29:06] <MrSunshine> ahh linuxcnc wiki had a script for generating the lut expressions =)
[12:29:12] <MrSunshine> using boolean expressons =)
[12:29:20] <MrSunshine> 0x80 it says my 3 input and should be
[12:46:10] <zeeshan|2> http://www.kijiji.ca/v-business-industrial/hamilton/kurt-d688-vise/590918566?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true]
[12:46:11] <zeeshan|2> http://www.kijiji.ca/v-business-industrial/hamilton/kurt-d688-vise/590918566?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
[12:46:13] <zeeshan|2> d688 !
[12:46:15] <zeeshan|2> :P
[12:46:59] <zeeshan|2> idiot selling for more than it costs brand new
[12:46:59] <zeeshan|2> :P
[12:54:01] <Loetmichel> zeeshan|2: every day an idiot wakes up
[12:54:08] <Loetmichel> you just have to find him ;-)
[12:54:09] <zeeshan|2> today it was me
[12:54:10] <zeeshan|2> !
[13:06:21] <skunkworks> he has to recoup is shipping...
[13:16:57] <MrSunshine> hmm when doing stuff in hal .. say i have a lut5 object, configured as an and ... i want axis.0.homed axis.1.homed and axis.2.homed to be input into the lut5, what would the syntax be for that ?
[13:17:20] <MrSunshine> just "net axis.0.homed <= lut5.in0" ?
[13:17:25] <zeeshan|2> skunkworks: nah
[13:17:31] <zeeshan|2> that vise goes for 580$ taxes in
[13:17:40] <zeeshan|2> at my local tool supplier
[13:17:48] <MrSunshine> or do i need to do stuff like "net homed:x => axis.0.homed <= lut5.in0" ?
[13:17:49] <zeeshan|2> m takeda and tool
[13:17:49] <zeeshan|2> :
[13:41:15] <PCW> net curly net axis.0.homed <= lut5.0.in0
[13:41:16] <PCW> net larry net axis.1.homed <= lut5.0.in1
[13:41:18] <PCW> net moe net axis.2.homed <= lut5.0.in2
[13:41:57] <_methods> nyuck, nyuck, nyuck
[13:42:20] <the_wench> JesusAlos: tjtr33 said "look at http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/qt-with-embedded-linux-on-the-beaglebone/ for touch screen BBB i/o control"
[13:42:27] <JesusAlos> hi
[13:43:37] <JesusAlos> I'm looking for a gcode viewer
[13:44:02] <JesusAlos> Eny body know one opensource?
[13:44:31] <_methods> notepad
[13:44:38] <_methods> gedit
[13:45:09] <JesusAlos> no. Is for see the geometry, like linuxcnc window
[13:45:25] <_methods> ahh a simulator
[13:46:02] <_methods> openscam?
[13:46:50] <_methods> i've always just used cimco but that's not open source
[13:46:54] <JesusAlos> need more simple
[13:47:07] <JesusAlos> only need see the geometry
[13:47:12] <JesusAlos> no sim
[13:47:25] <MrSunshine> PCW, i need to create signal names then ?
[13:47:34] <MrSunshine> and didnt i do it the wrong way? =)
[13:47:48] <MrSunshine> net axis.0.homed => lut5.0.in-0 right?
[13:47:49] <PCW> net creates them for you
[13:48:22] <PCW> net needs a signal name first
[13:48:23] <PCW> net signal pin pin pin ...
[13:48:28] <MrSunshine> yes, but i do not need a name on them .. i just need axis.0.homed to be "bound" into lut5.0.in-0 =)
[13:48:34] <MrSunshine> hmm ok
[13:48:47] <PCW> sorry thats how net works
[13:48:56] <MrSunshine> yeah, just so i know the syntax =)
[13:48:57] <_methods> then turn off the tool display
[13:48:58] <MrSunshine> thanks =)
[13:49:26] <MrSunshine> so "net x-homed <= axis.0.homed => lut5.0.in-0" then would be the right syntax ? =)
[13:49:35] <PCW> I think HAL should support anonymous signals but it does not currently
[13:50:01] <PCW> yes (+- the actual pin name particulars)
[13:50:26] <MrSunshine> but then how do bind "all-homed" to lut5.0.out ? =)
[13:50:35] <MrSunshine> net all-homed <= lut5.0.out ?
[13:51:38] <MrSunshine> i find the hal syntax a bit confusing ?)
[13:51:40] <MrSunshine> =)
[13:52:23] <cpresser> MrSunshine: actually, the direction of the arrows does not matter. i dont use any arrow because they only confuse me
[13:52:52] <cpresser> "net name-of-net signal1 signal2 signal3" works fine for me :)
[13:54:27] <MrSunshine> oh
[13:54:33] <MrSunshine> so the arrows are just for not ?
[13:54:45] <PCW> just for looks
[13:54:48] <MrSunshine> but "net all-homed lut5.0.out" would bind all-homed to the output of lut5 ?
[13:56:19] <PCW> it would create the signal "all-homed" if it did not exist and connect the pin "lut5.0.out" to it
[13:57:35] <JesusAlos> http://imagebin.org/309730
[13:58:14] <JesusAlos> I looking for a pattern generator from gcode
[13:58:56] <JesusAlos> the idea is open a pice of gcode or dxf, generate patterns and create gcode
[13:59:02] <JesusAlos> exist it?
[13:59:12] <Jymmm> Do dishwashers have a heater in them?
[14:00:04] <malcom2073> Jymmm: Mine does, i think most do
[14:00:21] <Jymmm> malcom2073: Yeah, I have no clue
[14:00:36] <malcom2073> Jymmm: I've installed a couple, they've all hooked to the cold water line and had heaters
[14:00:44] <malcom2073> This is USA though, who knows about the rest of the world :)
[14:01:07] <Jymmm> malcom2073: Cool, would save me from having to come up with a heater
[14:01:37] <MrSunshine> PCW, oki hmm =)
[14:01:41] <Jymmm> malcom2073: I'm trying to clean some carboy containers
[14:01:58] <Jymmm> malcom2073: and just found a FREE one on CL =)
[14:02:11] <malcom2073> Jymmm: Nice, free is good. Have them take a pic of the inside, you'll see the heater ring if it's there
[14:03:02] <Jymmm> malcom2073: Yeah. I just have to make sure it's TALL enough
[14:03:19] <malcom2073> Jymmm: wtf are you trying to clean?
[14:03:50] <Jymmm> malcom2073: http://products.hedwin.com/Asset/Winpak-Rectangle-Tight-Head.jpg
[14:03:59] <malcom2073> Jymmm: aahhh heh
[14:04:14] <malcom2073> Too dirty for soap and water?
[14:04:26] <malcom2073> ohh! Find a friend with a steam shark
[14:04:31] <Jymmm> malcom2073: Just replumb the bottom jets into a tube that the carboy fits over
[14:04:34] <malcom2073> power washer, with super hot water!
[14:04:39] <malcom2073> Jymmm: that works too
[14:04:53] <Jymmm> malcom2073: the problem is the waste of water
[14:05:43] <malcom2073> Jymmm: Could recycle it and reuse it to wash several times, most dishwashers don't have a pump to bring water in though, and rely on water pressure to push water into them, then use a pump to recirculate
[14:05:44] <Jymmm> these had syrup in them, they REALLY need to hit like three cycles
[14:06:14] <malcom2073> ahh
[14:06:19] <Jymmm> Um, I thought most actually recycle the water, that's how they get it hot
[14:06:44] <malcom2073> They do, but after each load it gets dumped
[14:06:52] <malcom2073> i'll bet you could disable the dump mechanism, to just reuse
[14:07:15] <Jymmm> Yeah, then once it gets too ugly, just cycle it out
[14:08:27] <cpresser> industrial dish-washers do reuse water
[14:08:41] <cpresser> the ones you have in large kitchens/restaurants
[14:08:42] <Jymmm> I've must have dumped 30-40 gallons, and because it's got soap stuffs, can't just water the plants with it
[14:09:08] <Jymmm> cpresser: I think home ones too, just the reservoir in the bottom
[14:09:16] <Jymmm> per load that is
[14:09:34] <cpresser> i was taking inbetween loads
[14:09:37] <Jymmm> I'll just stop it before the rinse cycle
[14:09:44] <cpresser> http://www.gastro-kuechen-technik.de/images/product_images/popup_images/242_0.png
[14:09:47] <Jymmm> cpresser: I understand =)
[14:10:19] <cpresser> i havent seen home-ones that do recycle between loads. yet.
[14:10:38] <Jymmm> cpresser: I wouldn't want a home one to do that =)
[14:11:06] <cpresser> the one in the picture is really fast. they only need ~2mins for one load. however, to power them up, it takes 15min (preheat the water)
[14:11:08] <Jymmm> I just need to spray on the instead of the jugs for a few cycles
[14:11:31] <Jymmm> cpresser: I've actually used that one before =)
[14:13:25] <Jymmm> cpresser: many moons ago =)
[14:14:55] <skunkworks> pcw, got it :)
[14:15:25] <PCW> good (well slow but good its there)
[14:17:02] <skunkworks> Mmmm smell of new electronics..
[14:18:54] <new7i76spinout> hoping for some help with a 7i76 mesa card - anyone available?
[14:18:59] <Jymmm> skunkworks: no magic smoke?
[14:19:04] <new7i76spinout> nothing yet
[14:19:06] <skunkworks> not yet
[14:19:12] <Jymmm> heh
[14:20:00] <FrankZappa> add an optoisolator
[14:20:24] <skunkworks> I have yet to nuke a printer port.. (no opto-isolators)
[14:20:38] <skunkworks> but most drives we use have isolators on the input...
[14:21:51] <FrankZappa> they're just the magic beans of the signal world
[14:23:14] <JesusAlos> gn8
[14:49:14] <zeeshan|2> http://www.kijiji.ca/v-laptops/hamilton/15-hp-envy-less-than-one-month-old/586758095?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
[14:49:18] <zeeshan|2> what do you guys think of this laptop?
[14:51:45] <SpeedEvil> I don't like the colour.
[14:51:50] <zeeshan|2> me either
[14:51:52] <zeeshan|2> need it for cad
[14:52:01] <zeeshan|2> i hate laptops
[14:52:06] <zeeshan|2> but ill be moving around a lot =/
[14:52:29] <skunkworks> 4th gen i7...
[14:52:37] <zeeshan|2> is that bad
[14:52:37] <zeeshan|2> or good
[14:52:45] <skunkworks> nice
[14:53:25] <skunkworks> I have a firstgen i7 in my laptop (dell xps) and have really liked it
[14:56:36] <Loetmichel> SpeedEvil: you are also one of the "a laptop can have any color as long as its flat black rubber"?
[14:56:37] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[14:57:40] <SpeedEvil> I really want an x60s with a 2048*1536 or so display, a modern processor, and that's about it.
[14:58:40] <Loetmichel> hrhr
[14:58:43] <Loetmichel> i can relate there
[14:59:19] <Loetmichel> i have a t61p on the bathtub and a x60s to tinker with on the electronics desk
[15:11:16] <skunkworks> I really like my 1080 display on my laptop.. I wouldn't want anything less
[15:11:51] <skunkworks> *15.something display
[15:25:44] <Jymmm> Dollar Tree has some Scotch (brand) 2pk stainless steel scrubbies... great for soldering
[15:27:48] <_methods> for soldering?
[15:28:28] <SpeedEvil> presumably Jymmm means to keep your tip clean
[15:28:38] <Jymmm> yep
[15:28:39] <_methods> ah i get teh copper pan cleaner ones
[15:29:04] <_methods> work better than the ones the come with the cleaner thing
[15:29:41] <Jymmm> the solder falls off these
[15:31:37] <Jymmm> 50ยข beats $10 https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8965
[15:34:40] <_methods> that's damn funny i never knew what that stupid bar was for
[15:34:52] <_methods> you're supposed to set your iron on that lol
[15:34:57] <Jymmm> heh
[15:35:17] <Tom_itx> it's an ash tray
[15:35:25] <_methods> oh you've seen mine
[15:36:12] <Jymmm> heh
[15:37:37] <Jymmm> I just pick these up when on sale for $16 http://www.frys.com/product/4825190?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
[15:37:54] <Jymmm> has stand, adjustable, and grounded
[15:38:11] <Jymmm> when the tip goes bad, just buy a whole new one.
[15:38:36] <Jymmm> new iron, not new tip =)
[15:39:20] <_methods> i got one of these
[15:39:22] <_methods> http://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachment/139727/AD2000-Station.jpg
[15:39:43] <_methods> love that thing
[15:39:53] <Jymmm> heh
[15:39:54] <_methods> soon as i pick it up its at temp
[15:40:18] <_methods> i can turn it on pick up the pen and solder
[15:40:58] <Tom_itx> i've never had a tip go bad on my weller
[15:41:15] <Tom_itx> i got some spares but it's only because i lost one once
[15:41:22] <Tom_itx> and for different temps
[15:41:27] <_methods> as long as you take care of your tip it should last forever
[15:41:34] <_methods> unless you're doing production soldering
[15:41:49] <_methods> just home use
[15:41:57] <Tom_itx> i've soldered several hundred boards with it
[15:42:13] <Jymmm> I dont sodler enough to justify a nice station
[15:42:22] <Tom_itx> mine is average
[15:42:27] <Tom_itx> but not RS cheap crap
[15:42:36] <Jymmm> Mines $20
[15:42:37] <Tom_itx> i burned 2 of those out in a week
[15:42:59] <_methods> it's so much easier to solder with a good station
[15:43:02] <_methods> it's like any other tool
[15:43:08] <_methods> cheap shit works.......
[15:43:10] <_methods> but
[15:43:13] <_methods> you know
[15:43:15] <Tom_itx> i finally just made a toaster oven for smt stuff
[15:44:37] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/toaster_oven/toaster_oven_index.php
[15:45:20] <_methods> yeah that's on my to do list of projects
[15:45:46] <_methods> linkage appears busted
[15:45:50] <Tom_itx> i insulated it so the temp comes up quicker and is more stable
[15:46:06] <Tom_itx> dyndns is dropping me, it may be dead now
[15:46:22] <malcom2073> I bought a nice weller, it was well worth it since I had to build a couple circuit boards. Made soldering so much easier than the RS one
[15:46:39] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/toaster_oven/toaster_oven_index.php
[15:46:42] <Tom_itx> that should work
[15:46:58] <malcom2073> Nice Tom_itx
[15:47:26] <Tom_itx> my weller is a WTCPT
[15:47:34] <Tom_itx> old but works good
[15:48:13] <Tom_itx> and this so i can see what i'm doing: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/scope/scope1.jpg
[15:48:46] <malcom2073> Nice! That looks like the kind my father has (which I occasionally borrow for fine pitch sodlering)
[15:48:57] <Tom_itx> 7-45 zoom
[15:49:47] <_methods> ah nice whered you get teh scope?
[15:50:07] <Tom_itx> ebay but it's an AM-SCOPE
[15:50:55] <Tom_itx> you definitely want a zoom scope for soldering
[15:51:52] <Tom_itx> i put a clear filter on the bottom to keep the smoke etc outta the lens
[15:51:57] <Tom_itx> easy to take off and clean
[16:14:47] <Deejay> gn8
[16:34:57] <Jymmm> Be careful what/where you trek... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulitis
[16:51:46] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulblySFElo4 - how low can you go
[16:52:38] <SpeedEvil> Does it count as CNC if you have a dot-dot list of cutting directions from a computer?
[16:57:29] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: the link... nice!!!
[16:58:05] <Jymmm> jepler: You might link that... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulblySFElo4
[16:58:12] <Jymmm> jepler: like*
[16:58:20] <toastyde2th> SpeedEvil, they used to make cams that way
[17:06:43] <Jymmm> YEOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bctz8ODrJf4
[17:09:22] <Connor> Jymmm: YEOW what ?
[17:11:48] <_methods> hah scored this bad boy for $100
[17:11:51] <_methods> https://www.dropbox.com/s/sh453l36r3e5vb2/2014-05-08%2017.52.02.jpg
[17:15:52] <Jymmm> Connor: Impressive on the ingenuity of the things he came up with to make the pallet pals
[17:17:30] <Connor> Yea. I see after watching the whole thing.
[17:34:03] <FungiFox> im new to CNC, but i decided what better way to spend my tax refund.
[17:36:16] <zeehero> Hey I finally beat my way into the freenode channel through brute force efforts (couldn't remember name)
[17:42:52] <Jymmm> hi andypugh
[17:43:01] <andypugh> Hi
[17:43:40] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: yeah - stupid tools that could be made 100 years ago ++
[17:43:55] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: =)
[17:44:26] <Jymmm> Oh, Andy might like that...
[17:44:42] <Jymmm> andypugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bctz8ODrJf4
[17:44:54] <SpeedEvil> I want one to help to remove my floor and keep it somewhat intact
[17:45:59] <SpeedEvil> That is a very inexpensive 'horizontal boring machine'
[17:46:16] <andypugh> What is?
[17:46:30] <SpeedEvil> The drill press on its side
[17:47:00] <Jymmm> andypugh: you have to watch that video to follow the conversation =)
[19:19:36] <skunkworks_> pcw, are you around?
[19:20:31] <PCW> Yeah
[19:22:32] <skunkworks_> so - I took the 5i20 config and set it to 5i25.. I installed the firmware (picked one that seemed to have stepgens.. dmmbob1x2
[19:22:42] <skunkworks_> I don't get anything on the step pins..
[19:22:46] <skunkworks_> dir seem to change
[19:23:02] <skunkworks_> I have to be doing something stupid
[19:23:29] <skunkworks_> if I run the feedrate way down (scale is only 1000) I don't see step changing.
[19:25:20] <skunkworks_> From what I gather - pin 2 should be direction pin 3 should be step (for the first stepgen - x)
[19:29:04] <PCW> Yeah that should be right (did you cycle the power after writing the new firmware?)
[19:29:17] <PCW> (or look at dmesg)
[19:29:29] <skunkworks_> yes
[19:29:39] <skunkworks_> I was looking at dmesg to figure out the pins
[19:29:57] <skunkworks_> it didn't run initally (because no stepgens in the 5i25)
[19:32:43] <PCW> let me duplicate that setup
[19:33:06] <XXCoder> http://theantimedia.org/3d-printer-used-to-build-housing-in-china/
[19:34:17] <XXCoder> its not fancy but hey, a house for less tha car price.
[19:34:25] <skunkworks_> pcw, thanks
[19:37:07] <PCW> well that config seems to work for me (at least the step I/O is where its expected and works)
[19:37:19] <skunkworks_> darn
[19:37:33] <Jymmm> XXCoder: Hell, you could backup a lo-boy, and print-on-site.
[19:37:52] <PCW> step pulses to short?
[19:38:05] <XXCoder> I wonder if one could make cnc builder. one that also does electric system and such lol
[19:38:08] <skunkworks_> oh - that could be...
[19:38:42] <Jymmm> XXCoder: You know have they have cranes that just raise up as the building is built? Like that.
[19:39:16] <PCW> you can always try quadrature mode if looking with LEDs
[19:39:40] <Jymmm> XXCoder: It has wheels on the ground, then as the walls are printed, they also serve as linear rails
[19:40:36] <Jymmm> Much like a tuck has those attachments for running on rialroad tracks
[19:41:10] <Jymmm> http://highrailequipment.com/images/hi-rail-big-8.jpg
[19:41:44] <skunkworks_> pcw, you mean I can't see a 40us pulse with the volt meter... duh
[19:41:47] <skunkworks_> thanks
[19:41:50] <skunkworks_> it is working
[19:42:18] <PCW> OK thats good
[19:45:23] <skunkworks_> pcw, qaudature give a nice visual
[19:46:15] <PCW> yeah (the table mode does also)
[19:46:21] <XXCoder> LOL!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJlUD5yJ0tI&feature=youtu.be
[19:46:45] <skunkworks_> bbl
[19:47:13] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: it's printed concrete, you can leave hollows for raceway
[19:47:20] <CaptHindsight> and HVAC
[19:47:27] <XXCoder> and bowling alley
[19:47:29] <XXCoder> ;)
[19:50:02] <Jymmm> XXCoder: What is that, the SW?
[19:50:13] <XXCoder> it's kerbal space program
[19:50:21] <XXCoder> you design rockets and fly em
[19:50:28] <Jymmm> lol
[19:50:35] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: good idea, now just to get 1.3B people to take up bowling, Profit!
[19:50:37] <XXCoder> guy playing game in that video is abusing the heck out of it
[19:54:08] <XXCoder> capt heh
[19:54:20] <XXCoder> bowling well meh for me
[19:54:36] <XXCoder> can be bit fun with friends, chatting and such. but on my own nah
[19:56:30] <Jymmm> *sigh* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW2dAaKk6Ko
[19:57:51] <XXCoder> cnc that shit
[19:58:48] <Jymmm> For me, laser it
[19:59:03] <XXCoder> I want a laser too
[19:59:27] <Jymmm> I have a laser
[20:01:01] <Jymmm> Whats funny is if you laser a large area on wood, what happens is the various veins of the grain go deeper/lighter and change in height
[20:01:28] <XXCoder> lol thats cool
[20:02:16] <Jymmm> Yeah, it's an unexpected effect, but the wood density varioies in it's interaction with the laser.
[20:03:04] <XXCoder> I suppose to get constant depth you have to make it look and compeste
[20:03:21] <Jymmm> I did some cocobolo once.... that was bad, real bad.
[20:03:55] <Jymmm> there is just so much resin in it, that the laser mostly charred the resin before efectign the wood
[20:13:16] <jdh> ahh... jsut saw the 'finning'
[20:13:52] <Jymmm> is that a fish? a movie?
[20:14:10] <jdh> a wrong channel :)
[20:14:39] <jdh> swimming vs. scootering.
[20:14:59] <Jymmm> oh your battery powered thingy?
[20:15:44] <jdh> right. not to be confused with *your* battery powered 'thingy'
[20:16:07] <Jymmm> Well, the latter would be TMI =)
[20:28:19] <PetefromTn_> evening..
[20:30:38] <zeeshan|2> hi
[20:32:11] <PetefromTn_> hey man wazzup
[20:50:29] <XXCoder> any remarks on http://www.eurekamagazine.co.uk/design-engineering-products/permanent-magnet-motor-surpasses-ie4-standard/61171/
[20:55:13] <malcom2073> Are there any significant control differences between machinekit and linuxcnc? Specifically referencing the extruder (A axis)?
[20:55:20] <malcom2073> for 3d printing I mean
[20:58:09] <Jymmm> malcom2073: You should be asking them
[20:58:40] <malcom2073> Jymmm: their website points to #linuxcnc and #linuxcnc-devel as the IRC channels of choice :P I'm also writing up a message for their mailing list though
[20:59:09] <Jymmm> malcom2073: They are the ones that created it, you need to ask them the difference
[21:00:00] <malcom2073> That's what I was hoping to do :)
[21:30:15] <zmi> hello guys, can you help me with problems network in linuxcnc?
[21:31:20] <jdh> ask your real question.
[21:31:31] <jdh> but... network and cnc?
[21:31:52] <zmi> I have installed linuxcnc ubuntu
[21:32:06] <zmi> i have problem with video and network
[21:33:27] <zmi> in the channel ubuntu they say no support there because this ubuntu is different for linuxcnc
[21:35:56] <jdh> did you run the latency check from teh live-cd before installing? (not really related, just curious if the chipset is suitable anyway)
[21:36:22] <XXCoder> I should do that test. next time
[21:36:27] <zmi> i dont know much about this OS
[21:36:41] <XXCoder> does it say if latency test was good or not? or does it just state number
[21:36:53] <jdh> just the numbers
[21:36:58] <XXCoder> blah ok
[22:23:21] <CaptHindsight> sounds like zmi has gotten it installed now but is having trouble setting up networking and video