#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-04-05

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[01:49:39] <humble_sea_bass> i kind of want one of those
[02:51:38] <Deejay> moin
[06:51:25] <miss0r> I think what I am looking for in a software is a cad/cam software that can create patterns and text. something almost like MS paint :) only with measurements and the option to export to something easily converted to g-code if not directly to g-code, is there such a program?
[06:56:51] <cpresser> miss0r: i use 'vcarve pro'. its convenient, but you have to pay for it
[06:58:49] <miss0r> perhaps it is worth the money - I will look into it. Thank you
[07:00:45] <humble_sea_bass> perhaps perhaps
[07:01:28] <miss0r> humble_sea_bass, You don't think so?
[07:01:47] <miss0r> only available for windows?
[07:02:30] <humble_sea_bass> that's gonna be a common thing
[07:02:44] <miss0r> hmm. That sucks
[07:16:40] <PetefromTn_> mornin
[08:04:05] <PetefromTn_> http://vimeo.com/87701971 For your viewing pleasure this fine sunday morning...
[08:06:26] <Jymmm> It's Saturday.
[08:06:38] <PetefromTn_> LOL yeah it is!! DOh
[08:06:54] <PetefromTn_> whaaattt a dumbass.
[08:07:24] <PetefromTn_> I guess having my wife making breakfast and sitting with my kids made me think it was sunday morning.
[08:08:00] <PetefromTn_> Awesome video tho...
[08:12:07] <Jymmm> Very cool
[08:18:08] <PetefromTn_> That musta cost a fortune to make with those moving camera mounts and high definition cameras with housings to protect from the elements....
[08:31:58] <tjtr33> CptMemleakShop, this monthe NASA TechBriefs cover story is Stratasys printing Adida's sneakers. multicolor slipons looking like the Thing's skin in a rainbow.
[08:45:23] <tjtr33> PetefromTn_, wow, thx for the vid link
[08:47:43] <PetefromTn_> tjtr33 Yeah man it is pretty neat cool video huh.
[08:52:10] <tjtr33> wow, after the vid ffox disappeared, no apps will run -> """Failed to execute child process "gnome-terminal" (Input/output error)""" coincidence i spose, will reboot
[09:24:05] <R2E4> mornin
[09:36:41] <miss0r> goodmornin'
[10:06:21] <JT-Shop> morning
[10:16:13] <OldMrHindsight> tjtr33: http://hothardware.com/News/Stratasys-Launches-Objet500-Connex3-Worlds-First-MultiMaterial-Color-3D-Printer/
[10:19:22] <OldMrHindsight> "There are 8 print heads that can handle build layers as small as 16 microns" what they don't mention is the drop volume
[10:22:46] <OldMrHindsight> http://www.gizmag.com/stratasys-color-multi-material-3d-printer/30613/ $330K
[10:26:32] <zeeshan|2> hi
[10:28:54] <humble_sea_bass> fuck skiing
[10:29:31] <zeeshan|2> why
[10:30:59] <humble_sea_bass> it is wet and grey all aroubd sub optimal. at the bar at the base of the mountain
[10:31:18] <zeeshan|2> fak winter in general
[10:31:18] <zeeshan|2> !
[10:39:40] <Loetmichel> zeeshan|2: its 17.1°c here outside ;-)
[10:39:47] <zeeshan|2> :)
[10:39:51] <Loetmichel> and i am in germany ;-)
[10:40:02] <zeeshan|2> 0C here
[10:40:05] <Loetmichel> and a sunny day
[10:40:21] <zeeshan|2> starting sunday it will be in the double digits
[10:40:23] <Loetmichel> with only a few clouds
[10:40:57] <Loetmichel> the car has said 21°c outside on the grocerys run a fet hrs ago
[10:41:01] <Loetmichel> few
[10:47:18] <miss0r> I have 5 degrees and rainy&snowy = Danish summer!
[10:55:17] <tjtr33> Denmark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1VuKvB4yxA Germany http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvylxN7ibso&list=PL27s6ccRnO40zVG8e-5z6v1TvWQhB2rnv USA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwzY1o_hB5Y
[10:55:18] <tjtr33> get outside!
[11:01:15] <miss0r> tjtr33, I don't care how pretty the nature might be... at the moment it is cold & rainy.. Ant stuff isn't really all that green yet ;)
[11:01:53] <miss0r> also, I am milling the surface of my vacuum table at the moment.
[11:03:13] <miss0r> in addition I am working on designing a sign saying 'World class idiot' for a buddy of mine ;)
[11:03:18] <tom_R2E3> ubuntu wants to do a "distribution upgrade" which is 900mb, is that ok? Or will linuxcnc get upset?
[11:10:51] <Loetmichel> it will get upset unless you install the right rt kernel again afterwards
[11:19:25] <tom_R2E3> ok
[11:19:39] <tom_R2E3> no upgrade it is then!
[11:19:41] <tom_R2E3> thank you
[11:23:55] <motioncontrol> Hi at all. I don't understant because if i write g64
[11:23:55] <motioncontrol> g0 x0 y0
[11:23:55] <motioncontrol> g2 i10 f1000
[11:23:55] <motioncontrol> g2 i10 f1000
[11:23:55] <motioncontrol> m2 the motion not stop when finisch first circle, but if i write g64
[11:23:56] <motioncontrol> g0 x0 y0 z0
[11:23:58] <motioncontrol> o100 repeat[2]
[11:24:00] <motioncontrol> g91 g2 z5 i10 f1000
[11:24:02] <motioncontrol> o100 endrepeat
[11:24:04] <motioncontrol> m2 the motion stop at first finished circled and after remove. can help me ?
[11:24:42] <motioncontrol> i thing g64 not fuction in sub ?
[11:28:03] <archivist> try using a pastebin with a repeatable bit of complete code
[11:28:32] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[11:28:34] <zeeshan|2> hi archivist
[11:28:34] <zeeshan|2> :D
[11:29:21] <archivist> hooomeee
[11:29:30] <zeeshan|2> you need to help me figure out
[11:29:32] <zeeshan|2> some stuff!
[11:29:49] <archivist> do I!
[11:29:53] <zeeshan|2> yessir
[11:29:57] <archivist> oh
[11:29:58] <zeeshan|2> you're the resident archivist
[11:30:01] <zeeshan|2> you know all
[11:30:06] <archivist> no I dont
[11:30:19] <tjtr33> (yet)
[11:30:43] <zeeshan|2> ARE YOU READY???!!?
[11:30:58] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/BmuDq1V.jpg
[11:30:59] <archivist> run out of brain cells error
[11:31:00] <zeeshan|2> image @1
[11:31:09] <zeeshan|2> 'no. 2. starrett micrometer'
[11:31:16] <zeeshan|2> the anvils change from 0 to 1 and 1 to 2
[11:31:23] <zeeshan|2> never seen this type on the starrett website?
[11:31:37] <humble_sea_bass> zeeshan|2: how much did you post the kennedy box for
[11:31:56] <archivist> as does mine http://www.collection.archivist.info/showresult.php?prog=1&srcprog=searchv13.php&srcdata=title&Type=PD&Accn_no=9395&subject=26733
[11:32:15] <zeeshan|2> well new, both the sections go for like 500$
[11:32:26] <zeeshan|2> so i'd prolly be happy with getting 180 for both the boxes
[11:32:33] <zeeshan|2> theyre in pretty nice condition
[11:32:42] <zeeshan|2> archivist: so with this type of micrometer
[11:32:46] <humble_sea_bass> where are you again? Thunder bay?
[11:32:50] <zeeshan|2> you just change the anvil and then have to recalibrate?
[11:32:55] <zeeshan|2> humble_sea_bass: near toronto .. im in hamilton
[11:32:58] <archivist> meh, Starrett new prices are just silly
[11:33:13] <zeeshan|2> archivist: those priceses are for the felt lined kennedy boxes
[11:33:23] <humble_sea_bass> check how much shipping would be to 10010
[11:33:34] <archivist> if you look at my moore and wright set it comes with standards
[11:33:34] <zeeshan|2> L0R 1W0 is postal code
[11:33:41] <humble_sea_bass> america
[11:33:41] <zeeshan|2> archivist: yes
[11:34:03] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/yFnojf3.jpg
[11:34:16] <zeeshan|2> oktheres 2 things in this pic idont know what they are
[11:34:20] <zeeshan|2> left to the depth gage
[11:34:25] <zeeshan|2> and bottom to the depth gage
[11:34:45] <zeeshan|2> bottom to the depth gauge looks like something that measures angles?
[11:34:50] <zeeshan|2> it goes from o to 90
[11:35:03] <tjtr33> i looked at the 'key with dial' thingy looks like a depth gauge
[11:35:29] <tjtr33> it goes 0 to 100
[11:35:29] <archivist> the with a dial is a rpm measuring device
[11:35:35] <zeeshan|2> 0 to 100
[11:35:38] <zeeshan|2> ah
[11:35:57] <zeeshan|2> 100 rpm increments
[11:36:12] <tjtr33> is this april 1?
[11:36:13] <archivist> use a watch and keep in contact for a set period, probably a minute
[11:36:26] <zeeshan|2> tjtr33: hah
[11:36:35] <zeeshan|2> okay whats that slotted weird gauge thing?
[11:36:39] <zeeshan|2> i have no clue what it is
[11:36:46] <archivist> 100 rpm per minute
[11:37:18] <archivist> a form of bevel gauge
[11:37:39] <humble_sea_bass> jesus christ canada post is expensive
[11:38:10] <zeeshan|2> archivist: yea it looks like a bel gauge
[11:38:12] <zeeshan|2> bevel
[11:38:23] <zeeshan|2> will investigate further
[11:38:38] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/7OhX0Ql.jpg
[11:38:47] <zeeshan|2> the middle two scales (big one and small one)
[11:39:03] <zeeshan|2> are those wire measurement gages?
[11:39:18] <tjtr33> unfold the last element inside the pocket-knife like thing & take another pic
[11:39:26] <archivist> or for clock spring measurement
[11:39:56] <archivist> I see two clock spring things there
[11:40:38] <zeeshan|2> i dont see any clock springs
[11:40:39] <zeeshan|2> ;p
[11:40:48] <tjtr33> the dogbone holes have a c-sink on one end, are those threaded?
[11:40:51] <archivist> nickname for the taper slot is pivot breaker
[11:41:36] <zeeshan|2> tjtr33: thats just a hook scale
[11:41:38] <zeeshan|2> in that pouch
[11:41:38] <archivist> it is for measuring the thickness of watch/clock springs
[11:42:04] <zeeshan|2> interesting
[11:42:09] <zeeshan|2> i don't think ill be ever using those
[11:42:10] <archivist> the thing with slots on the sides is a spring height measurement
[11:42:37] <zeeshan|2> that was my next question
[11:42:38] <zeeshan|2> haha
[11:42:49] <archivist> unless the wording on it states awg etc
[11:42:59] <zeeshan|2> lemme go take a closer look
[11:43:18] <archivist> makers name helps
[11:46:07] <zeeshan|2> it does not say awg on it
[11:46:18] <zeeshan|2> the little gauge is adrill gage
[11:46:29] <zeeshan|2> i didnt see it closely before, but it says drill gage on it -- i guess for extremely tiny drill bits
[11:46:39] <zeeshan|2> that taper looking thin says 'martin fils'
[11:46:59] <zeeshan|2> and looks like its got threads in each hole
[11:47:28] <zeeshan|2> googling that shows something to do with watch makers screw gauge
[11:48:12] <tjtr33> fils = wire in french?
[11:48:42] <zeeshan|2> fils = son in french
[11:48:43] <zeeshan|2> :)
[11:48:45] <archivist> here are some the camera could not be arsed to focus on http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2014/2014_04_05_tools/IMG_1795.JPG
[11:49:08] <zeeshan|2> yes
[11:49:11] <zeeshan|2> is that a wire gauge chart
[11:49:20] <zeeshan|2> wire gage i mean
[11:49:22] <zeeshan|2> or spring gage
[11:49:32] <zeeshan|2> that one has no markings on it in terms of makers mark
[11:50:01] <tjtr33> martin fils, one for sale on ebay
[11:50:16] <archivist> mine had martin on the rear
[11:50:34] <zeeshan|2> this is a martin fils #60
[11:50:35] <zeeshan|2> i think
[11:51:02] <zeeshan|2> okay, all this watch makers stuff is useless to me :{
[11:51:11] <archivist> 100ths of a mm left and Dtr on the right
[11:51:11] <tjtr33> ebay is yelling, not me "ANTIQUE WATCH CLOCK MAKERS SCREW THREAD GAUGE PLATE MARTIN FILS No 22 SWISS"
[11:51:16] <R2E4_> hi guys
[11:51:24] <zeeshan|2> haha tjtr33 @ ebay yelling
[11:51:50] <zeeshan|2> i have any layout tools
[11:51:51] <zeeshan|2> finally
[11:52:09] <zeeshan|2> http://imgur.com/5EMMGfW
[11:52:22] <zeeshan|2> i was really looking for inside ones
[11:52:35] <zeeshan|2> cause you can measure internal o-ring grooves quickly with them
[11:53:45] <zeeshan|2> i still don't know what this definitively:
[11:53:47] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/mVMpLyr.jpg
[11:53:49] <zeeshan|2> middle of the picture
[11:53:51] <zeeshan|2> top
[11:53:54] <R2E4_> archivist: Those clock gears on your site, are you making them?
[11:53:56] <zeeshan|2> its some sort of caliper
[11:54:26] <zeeshan|2> its a starrett and it says No.426 on it
[11:54:32] <zeeshan|2> but when i google that, it comes up w/ micrometer set.
[11:54:54] <R2E4_> zeeshan|2: you studying someone else toolbox? lol
[11:55:16] <zeeshan|2> R2E4: no, i bought a tool box mainly for other stuff
[11:55:24] <zeeshan|2> but this is the extras im trying to identify
[11:55:47] <zeeshan|2> i think that caliper is called a 'caliper square'
[11:55:58] <zeeshan|2> its just a small vernier caliper i guess?
[11:57:26] <tjtr33> duh, fill is latin for thread
[11:57:39] <zeeshan|2> ah
[11:58:06] <zeeshan|2> last question
[11:58:22] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/7hQLGat.jpg
[11:58:24] <zeeshan|2> those round things
[11:58:27] <zeeshan|2> what the heck are those?!
[12:00:04] <tjtr33> looks like tube clamp, tube sits on inside v, clamp sits on outside flats, screw pins tube to v
[12:00:59] <tjtr33> the guy does seem to have watchmaker type tools, so thats a hint
[12:01:45] <zeeshan|2> he worked at TRW
[12:02:00] <zeeshan|2> trw automotive
[12:02:03] <zeeshan|2> machinist there
[12:02:10] <zeeshan|2> im not sure why he has watch makers stuff
[12:02:11] <archivist> R2E4_, I do make gears when asked
[12:02:43] <archivist> the other site http://gears.archivist.info/
[12:03:33] <zeeshan|2> archivist: you could use these gauges
[12:03:33] <zeeshan|2> :P
[12:03:50] <zeeshan|2> and some money
[12:03:54] <zeeshan|2> for a nice level?!:! :)
[12:03:55] <zeeshan|2> haha
[12:04:04] <zeeshan|2> this box came with a level
[12:04:10] <zeeshan|2> but its a no. 98
[12:04:17] <zeeshan|2> so only good to 0.005"
[12:04:30] <archivist> 5 thou in what
[12:04:36] <zeeshan|2> 8 inches
[12:04:49] <zeeshan|2> i _think_
[12:04:49] <archivist> 10 inches/10ft
[12:04:50] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/mVMpLyr.jpg
[12:04:58] <zeeshan|2> left
[12:05:20] <zeeshan|2> http://www.starrett.com/metrology/product-detail/Precision-Measuring-Tools/Precision-Hand-Tools/Machinsts-Levels/Levels/98-8
[12:05:21] <archivist> that should be quite usable
[12:05:23] <zeeshan|2> .005 per foot
[12:05:27] <zeeshan|2> seems like