#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-03-26

[06:18:09] * jthornton thinks poc is always == to tool number unless you have a random tool changer
[06:19:24] <jthornton> unless your using your CNC to dial your phone in your pocket!
[07:05:56] <skunkworks> jthornton, I really think the g96 css issue is that he is using the wrong spindle speed pin. The sample config uses motion .spindle-speed-out as it changes with x postion. while motion.spindle-speed-cmd-rps does not.
[07:11:27] <jthornton> I use motion.spindle-speed-out-rps on the CHNC
[07:11:42] <skunkworks> oh
[07:11:59] <jthornton> just looking at the config for the CHNC
[07:12:07] <skunkworks> and at-speed and everything works for css?
[07:12:33] <jthornton> yes
[07:14:55] <jthornton> I just posted the spindle section of my hal file
[07:48:58] <R2E4_awy> mornin
[07:54:23] <R2E4> 2%
[07:54:44] <skunkworks> 3%
[07:55:05] <R2E4> sorry, meant for another window.
[07:55:22] <R2E4> I ran some gcode last night on my machine with no problems.
[07:55:46] <skunkworks> really? you got it tuned decent enough?
[07:55:59] <R2E4> yeah, its good. Really smooth
[07:56:12] <R2E4> I'm ramped up!!!!!
[07:56:14] <skunkworks> Awesome!
[07:56:33] <skunkworks> You definatly put a lot of sweat into it :)
[07:56:53] <R2E4> All these big machines I think you have to.
[07:57:02] <R2E4> I dont see a way around it.
[07:57:22] <R2E4> But I'm learning bigtime every step of the way.
[07:57:29] <skunkworks> sure - you have a retrofitter come in and drop 100K on it ;)
[07:57:55] <R2E4> HUH? Thats what they would charge?
[07:58:12] <skunkworks> heh - no clue.. Just assume..
[07:58:27] <R2E4> 100K, you could get a brand new one.
[07:58:55] <skunkworks> you think you could get a machine that is similar in size for 100K brand new?
[07:59:28] <R2E4> I would think so. not sure.
[07:59:39] * skunkworks doesn't know either
[08:01:10] <R2E4> 800 hours * say 50.00 is 40 G's, Dont think it would cost that much to retrofit. 800 hours is alot of hours for a company that does just that.
[08:02:05] <R2E4> http://www.haascnc.com/vmc_we.asp?sizeID=30_40INCH_VMC#gsc.tab=0
[08:02:43] <JT-Shop> they get more than $50 hr for sure
[08:03:28] <R2E4> For service calls, i agree, but for installation and retrofit, they have to be compettitive.
[08:03:40] <skunkworks> with who? ;)
[08:03:59] <R2E4> yeah, you got a point...lol
[08:04:49] <JT-Shop> competitive is $100 hr most get more than that
[08:05:43] <R2E4> maybe hours is off, 800 hours 100/hr thats 80,000. HAAS vf2 brand new is 59,000.00
[08:05:44] <archivist> "what the market will bare" pricing
[08:06:17] <R2E4> IS there companies out there doing just retrofits and service?
[08:06:31] <JT-Shop> yes
[08:06:34] <R2E4> cause other than here, I dont see much of that happening.
[08:07:24] <JT-Shop> you don't see it from here, I do build/refit machinery for a living
[08:07:58] <R2E4> well.... there you go. thats cool. So I saved a good chucnk of change?
[08:08:07] <JT-Shop> most of my work is in factories and we use industrial stuff
[08:08:16] <skunkworks> R2E4, yes - plus you can fix it...
[08:08:39] <R2E4> hehe, I will know this machine inside and out, thats for sure.
[08:08:53] <JT-Shop> did you really work 20 40hr weeks refitting it?
[08:09:16] <R2E4> LinuxCNC is really cool. It just f%^$king works.
[08:09:21] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20140326-factum-high-speed-sintering-3d-printer-makes-parts-in-less-than-a-second.html
[08:09:26] <JT-Shop> or did you spend most of the time learning the trade?
[08:10:07] <R2E4> no, not really. Your right, if I break it down, it was mostly learning, and figuring out how the machine works and figuring out linux.
[08:11:29] <R2E4> I spent alot of time researching the motors/drives and figuring out they work.
[08:11:54] <archivist_> how quick would you be next time :)
[08:12:01] <JT-Shop> so your second refit will go much faster :)
[08:12:35] <R2E4> yes certainly. Starting with my 4X4 CNC router. Get it off Muck3
[08:39:42] <R2E4> I would like to do that for a living, but no thank you. Too many variables, too much could go wrong or things pop up that you didnt account for.
[08:42:03] <archivist> I think you need a sensible contract, (costs may go up) and sufficient funds when things take longer than expected
[09:01:27] <R2E4> Anyone have any leads to fanuc manuals? # B-53425E
[09:37:37] <R2E4> IF I touch off for X and Y, this becomes my offset 0,0?
[09:39:26] <R2E4> I just found it, G54 offset. Thats what I needed to know.
[09:39:56] <JT-Shop> http://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/g-code/index.html
[09:41:03] <JT-Shop> R2E4, I generally have the front face of the back jaw as Y0 and use a dowel in the spindle to locate the X0 of the material in the vise
[09:41:53] <JT-Shop> then touch off X (in my case a 0.500" dowel) to -0.25 or 0.25 depending on the side of the material I'm on
[09:42:48] <R2E4> I was thinking on buying an edge finding tool, but I can see your way working.
[09:46:56] <JT-Shop> I use an edge finder to locate the back jaw
[09:47:43] <JT-Shop> I use a $25 Starrett Edge Finder NO. 827B
[09:48:10] <_methods> you always need an edgefinder
[09:48:14] <JT-Shop> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCcQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DaUa_B6YIt_M&ei=pOQyU5P5NY3aoAT5koGAAg&usg=AFQjCNGHUCUBZ_ySa_GgUBZ7rqKINeYeNw&sig2=MtFhuQRTCd6A3xh8JltO1A&bvm=bv.63738703,d.cGU
[09:48:26] <_methods> should be one of the first tools you buy
[09:48:31] <JT-Shop> wow what a link... stupid google
[09:48:48] <JT-Shop> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUa_B6YIt_M
[09:51:05] <R2E4> Spindle is moving.... ??
[09:51:23] <JT-Shop> yea at 1000 rpm usually
[09:51:46] <_methods> hehe not 5000
[09:51:49] <_methods> did that one time
[09:51:57] <R2E4> I thought they were done without the spindle moving
[09:52:00] <JT-Shop> lol did it survive?
[09:52:00] <_methods> came in in the morning and forgot my edgefinder was in teh spindle
[09:52:05] <_methods> hell no
[09:52:09] <_methods> almost hit me in the head
[09:52:28] <_methods> tip went flyin
[09:52:47] <_methods> ran the warm up lol
[09:53:13] <_methods> i was standin there doing paperwork
[09:53:14] <_methods> heheh
[09:53:32] <_methods> had the doors open too like an idiot
[09:57:16] <archivist> I never got around to getting an edge finder
[09:57:43] <_methods> what do you use?
[09:57:50] <_methods> dowel?
[09:59:01] <archivist> usually making round stuff so measure the size of a cut then set offset
[09:59:09] <_methods> oh
[09:59:29] <_methods> you don't need one usually for lathe work
[09:59:47] <_methods> can't imagine doing mill work without one
[10:00:10] <_methods> unless you have a machine with probes
[10:00:12] <archivist> and for clock gears one does not know the cutter od to tip distance
[10:01:14] <archivist> the effective pcd of the cutter http://www.archivist.info/cnc/target.php
[10:03:33] <archivist> which includes run out of the mount etc
[10:06:09] <R2E4> Thats small.
[10:30:22] <somenewguy> my mill has 1.5 tho lash in the X axis, is that too much ya think?
[10:30:39] <somenewguy> its a split brass nut on 1/2 x 20 tpi rods, so I can tighten it up,but the danger of missed stepps comes up
[10:32:35] <archivist> might be better to add another nut with a spring between the two
[10:33:14] <archivist> you can add compensation for the play you have in linuxcnc
[10:33:42] <somenewguy> oh is that feature nice and relialbe?
[10:33:51] <somenewguy> I knew it existed, just sounded fancy
[10:34:17] <somenewguy> also for th record I have yet to notice any issues with my play, my tolernces aren't that tight, and everything circular I have milled sure looks circular
[10:34:31] <somenewguy> I worry about the slopp causing damage when I am climb milling or whatever
[10:35:19] <JT-Shop> you shouldn't climb mill with a sloppy acme screw axis
[10:35:44] <archivist> depends what you are cutting too
[10:36:03] <somenewguy> so 1.5 thou counts as sloppy? that is the real question here
[10:36:36] <somenewguy> I have no clue what the orders of magntitude are with these things, I am not a machinest, I just pretend when no ones looking
[10:36:37] <archivist> far better than one of my axes :)
[10:37:23] <somenewguy> my machine isn't super rigid, being a desktop mill, so I don't take very aggressive cuts, but I can revert to conventional milling if that is best
[10:39:20] <JT-Shop> you probably have a lot more than 0.0015" positional error with an acme screw... you just have to work within the limitations of the machine
[10:39:27] <archivist> for a 6 thou cut per rev 1.5 thou is not too much
[10:40:15] <somenewguy> its not an acme screw, its 20tpi 1/2inch rod
[10:40:26] <JT-Shop> all thread?
[10:40:44] <somenewguy> no, its too straight to be all thread, factory equipt on a TAIG
[10:40:47] <somenewguy> gimme a sec
[10:41:09] <somenewguy> well i guesss technically yes its all thread
[10:41:17] <somenewguy> just when I think all thread, I think the junk from the hardware store
[10:41:48] <JT-Shop> lol yea there is all thread and there is all thread
[10:42:10] <somenewguy> http://thehobbyistmachineshop.com/Taig/DSC04207.jpg
[10:42:25] <JT-Shop> so basically you have a 1/2" NF threaded rod
[10:42:29] <somenewguy> http://thehobbyistmachineshop.com/Taig/DSC04214.jpg better picture
[10:42:32] <somenewguy> yes
[10:42:45] <somenewguy> never seen such a big fine rod
[10:42:50] <somenewguy> ....I can't belive I just said that
[10:43:38] <somenewguy> so it sounds like .0015 is enough that I should start using software compensation
[10:43:43] <archivist> that is what the actress said to the bishop
[10:43:54] <somenewguy> is that a set-and-forget feature, or do I need to be concious of it when I am using the mill now?
[10:44:03] <somenewguy> I'll start reading about it tonight after work
[10:44:32] <somenewguy> just want to make sure its worth distracting myself lol, so much to and play with, so little time
[10:44:33] <skunkworks_> archivist, do you guys over there actually have vicars and tart parties?
[10:44:42] <archivist> measure now and again and adjust as the nuts wear
[10:44:54] <JT-Shop> if you use backlash compensation read the manual carefully
[10:45:12] <archivist> skunkworks, I have no idea, I am an innocent boy
[10:45:16] <skunkworks_> heh
[10:45:31] <JT-Shop> you can also "map" the screw
[10:46:10] <archivist> the hobbymat has a similar leadscrew, I used it for my Z
[10:48:59] <somenewguy> ok, maybe when it warms up I will map out the screw
[10:49:22] <somenewguy> do you just attach a digital vernieer to the axis and tabulate position data?
[10:49:36] <somenewguy> with "just" in quotes of course
[10:51:23] <archivist> some of the digital verniers are quite good so can be used for that
[10:51:49] <archivist> others are known as guessing sticks
[10:51:55] <somenewguy> haha
[10:52:15] <somenewguy> I compared mine against some real measuring devices and the resolution was impressive
[10:52:20] <somenewguy> but I still don't trust it
[10:52:29] <somenewguy> I assume the accuracy over a range is spotty
[10:52:41] <somenewguy> wayyyyy too cheap for them to be as good as they seem
[10:53:06] <archivist> I have tested mine on blocks, usually within half a thou
[10:53:26] <somenewguy> ok mine are the same, but they are like 10-40 dollar verniers
[10:53:39] <somenewguy> find it kinda hard to believe, even tho they have yet to fail a test against a standard
[10:54:21] <archivist> watch for dirt/burs in the jars and loose gib screws on them
[10:54:46] <somenewguy> will do
[10:55:07] <somenewguy> thankfully I have exactly 1 good mearing device that I can compare all my other discount ones against
[10:57:06] <somenewguy> sunnen bore mic w/ a gauge ring that is +-.0001
[10:57:39] <somenewguy> vs my set of 6 mics that I think I paid 45 bucks for brand new... somehow all the mics are actaully accurate
[10:57:53] <somenewguy> but the gauge/setting blocks they came with are ALL .002 oversize
[10:58:01] <somenewguy> well done china, well done
[10:58:02] <JT-Shop> see comp file http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/ini_config.html#sub:AXIS-section
[10:58:50] <R2E4> What is the best way to get the machine calibrated so when i move it 10", it actually moves 10 inches precisely.
[10:59:13] <R2E4> I see it now accurate with a tape measure, but needs to be more precise.
[10:59:50] <JT-Shop> do you know your encoder counts?
[11:00:45] <archivist> do you know your screw pitch
[11:00:51] <rodfrey> Hi! I'm trying to remap m6 with a pure python function. I'm obviously missing something, because the change_epilog function isn't being called.
[11:00:52] <somenewguy> JT-Shop: thanks, bookmarked for tonight
[11:01:08] <R2E4> No, I dont have that data.
[11:01:17] <rodfrey> My mapping is
[11:01:17] <rodfrey> REMAP=M6 modalgroup=6 prolog=change_prolog epilog=change_epilog py=toolchange
[11:01:22] <somenewguy> for aluminum and plastic work on a taig, waht do you think of this trunion table? http://deepgroove1.com/videos.htm
[11:01:25] <somenewguy> top left video
[11:01:37] <somenewguy> it looks like EXACTLY what I need for all my polycarbonate milling the last month or so
[11:02:09] <rodfrey> def change_epilog(self, **words): | h.newpin("blow", hal.HAL_BIT, hal.HAL_OUT)
[11:02:09] <rodfrey> print 'change epilog'
[11:02:35] <rodfrey> Whups the h.newpin came from the adjacent buffer in vim. Sorry. :)
[11:02:38] <rodfrey> just a print statement
[11:02:42] <rodfrey> have the same in change epilog
[11:02:58] <rodfrey> the prolog is called, my code executes (moves to the correct rack position, etc.) but epilog isn't called
[11:03:27] <rodfrey> Do I have to signal lcnc somehow that I've finished?
[11:03:36] <rodfrey> besides returning INTERP_OK?
[11:09:03] <somenewguy> welp way over my head....
[11:10:44] <rodfrey> Mine too, apparently. :)
[11:11:11] <JT-Shop> idiots sent my parts to Kansas!
[11:11:48] <humble_sea_bass> they wanted your parts to have a conservative home
[11:31:46] <Deejay> moin
[12:22:51] <Connor> Starting to think I should write this remap toolchange in python instead of O-code
[12:23:35] <Connor> That way I don't have to deal with using the motion pins to pass signals back and forth..
[12:33:22] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:33:29] <XXCoder> hey
[12:34:11] <IchGuckLive> pcw ? all errors clar now it has been the cable tunnel
[12:56:47] * JT-Shop has to build a gate latch now
[13:10:57] <archivist> the old way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmsIdJ50wFU&app=desktop
[14:00:49] <kb8wmc> good day to all
[14:09:13] <JT-Shop> my parts are finally on the way to me
[14:29:41] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, what parts?
[14:31:38] <Tom_itx> nice chilly WINDY! rainy day here
[15:03:25] <R2E4_> The home and limit switches need to be not right?
[15:04:05] <JT-Shop> some air filters I'm making for the Spyder nuts
[15:05:16] <JT-Shop> got anodized blue in Kansas City
[15:08:41] <Tom_itx> you didn't anodize em?
[15:09:16] <JT-Shop> didn't have time
[15:09:37] <Tom_itx> the store takin off a bit?
[15:10:09] <JT-Shop> yea since I bought the banner ad it is doing good
[15:11:08] <Tom_itx> on a spyder site?
[15:11:27] <JT-Shop> I hate it when LinuxCNC won't let me do a dumb thing...
[15:11:29] * GuShh_Lap2 idly anodizes malware
[15:25:51] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: It's just not a s sadistic as you are masochistic =)
[15:31:40] <R2E4_> IS it normal to have the X and Y 0 farthest away and to the right of the table, I guess it depends on the manufacturer, but isthere a standard?
[15:37:25] <kengu> it is ok/normal
[15:37:44] <kengu> at least my laser cutter works that way as the home is there
[15:38:15] <ReadError> i do mine in the lower left
[15:41:13] <kengu> mirrored axis is always fun (; so make the 0,0 to be upper left (: or something
[15:47:20] <R2E4_> haha, no thanks. The home switches are placed so that it homes in upper right. Everything will be cutting in - direction. A bit bizarre.
[15:52:36] <kengu> well.. home can be in 2000,2000 or something
[15:53:35] <R2E4_> I'm not looking to make my life difficult. I'll stick with 0,0 for now
[16:22:03] <Connor> okay, So, Thoughts on python vs o-code for umbrella style tool changer using remap ?
[16:22:15] <Connor> having to use the motion pins sucks.
[16:22:37] <Connor> but python looks a bit more complicated to get going.
[16:28:00] <JT-Shop> python is fun and easy
[16:30:19] <Connor> I have the carousel tool change part done in o-code.. it's simple.. but, not sure I like having to use the motion pins..
[16:34:31] <XXCoder> why?
[16:34:52] <Connor> Just add another layer of pins I have to net together in hal..
[16:37:31] <Bushman> ave
[17:02:12] <Connor> anyone know how to abort out of a sub using o-code? or error out?
[17:18:27] <Bushman> Connor: what do you mean by abort or error out? who or what will be sending the abort/error signal?
[17:19:01] <Connor> I think I figured it out.. having to set a # value above 30.. and having the toolchange return 0 or 1
[17:19:03] <Deejay> gn8
[17:20:28] <Bushman> o_O?
[17:53:26] <XXCoder> I wonder if cnc can be accurate enough to make capiers
[17:53:34] <XXCoder> calipers
[17:53:46] <XXCoder> it seem it can be printed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP7harBuc-Q
[17:56:16] <XXCoder> lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1z5zAEpUIw&feature=player_detailpage
[18:12:07] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20140326-factum-high-speed-sintering-3d-printer-makes-parts-in-less-than-a-second.html if the parts are only 1 layer thick
[18:23:20] <Valen> I'm suprised people aren't "ink jet" printing with steel
[18:23:35] <XXCoder> its still too expensive
[18:23:44] <XXCoder> simple method needs fountary
[18:23:45] <Valen> just have a pool of hot steel and use a solenoid or something to cause it to squirt some out
[18:24:02] <XXCoder> theres ones that directly fuse metal but pricing ow
[18:24:19] <Valen> most of the metal ones Ive seen are metal powder + laser
[18:24:26] <Valen> the better ones use electron beam welding
[18:24:36] <Valen> but they always introduce cold metal then add heat
[18:26:23] <XXCoder> well any process that result in model thats either done or needs some simple process to be done is nice
[18:36:08] <CaptHindsight> Valen: inkjet can't handle steel, but there are other deposition methods like e-beam
[18:36:42] <Valen> CaptHindsight: it could if you made a print head to do so
[18:36:54] <Valen> IE a ceramic print head
[18:36:56] <CaptHindsight> I'm working on that
[18:37:05] <CaptHindsight> we're printing printheads
[18:37:52] <CaptHindsight> but why print with molten metal?
[18:40:39] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A10XEZvkgbY Sciaky's Electron Beam Additive Manufacturing
[18:42:10] <andypugh> I worked on an electron-beam welding project once, it’s great.
[18:42:10] <CaptHindsight> inkjets are actually pretty finicky
[18:43:21] <andypugh> The project I was on did 1m (3’) thick welds in a single pass. Just butt two flat plates together, and weld.
[18:43:25] <CaptHindsight> you can jet molten metal from a ceramic nozzle using high pressure nitrogen
[18:43:42] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: nice
[18:45:05] <XXCoder> dang 1m
[18:45:09] <XXCoder> nice.
[18:45:14] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: http://www.3ders.org/articles/20140326-factum-high-speed-sintering-3d-printer-makes-parts-in-less-than-a-second.html I don't see how it's any faster than 1 sec per layer
[18:45:58] <XXCoder> it says one second per part and theres lots parts
[18:46:13] <XXCoder> if it makes 60 parts in 60 second thats one per sec
[18:46:30] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLndYWw5_y8 metal powder injected into molten metal
[18:47:09] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: yes, it could be fun with numbers
[18:47:16] <XXCoder> it olviously is
[18:48:40] <CaptHindsight> so if you had 1000 machines it would 1 part per mS
[18:49:06] <XXCoder> well I guess they counted it as from single run
[18:49:15] <XXCoder> multi-machine cant be counted as single run
[18:49:36] <CaptHindsight> sure it can
[18:51:11] <CaptHindsight> if you're going to be misleading with "FACTUM high speed sintering 3D printer makes a part in less than a second"
[18:52:47] <XXCoder> lol
[18:53:07] <XXCoder> "With suffecent resources you can complete 500 parts per second"
[18:54:21] <XXCoder> LOL!!! http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/SafetyAlertsforHumanMedicalProducts/ucm390002.htm
[18:54:34] <XXCoder> homopathic meds recalled.. because it has medicine in it
[18:55:18] <Valen> lol
[19:05:44] <andypugh> It seems that “Fair Deal Homeopathy” no longer exists. That was an inteesting site, they sold genuine homeopathic remedies cheaply, whilst being entirely homest that they didn’t work: http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/fairdeal_homeopathy
[19:06:31] <XXCoder> interesting
[19:06:39] <cradek> I read a study recently that found strong evidence that the placebo effect works EVEN when you make it clear to the patient they are getting a placebo
[19:07:11] <cradek> I should say: that placebos work
[19:07:20] <XXCoder> yeah placebo effect is all kinds of weird, but it cant do everything
[19:07:36] <XXCoder> no matter how many times it states it would cure cancer, it wont.
[19:07:37] <andypugh> I just found their (not updated for years) twitter feed with such testimonials as “my bruise cleared up in only 6 days after taking your remedy” :-)
[19:08:09] <cradek> heh
[19:08:21] <XXCoder> lol
[19:11:32] <R2E4_> I saw earlier on the Linuxcnc wiki that it shows a + before the Home_search_vel and after. IS this correct? I am trying to find it again.
[19:13:02] <Valen> XXCoder: actually many of the cancer drugs are going to be about as effective as a placebo
[19:13:41] <Valen> in the mental health field new studies into placebos are showing that if the pill makes you feel like crap then its just as effective as the "medication"
[19:14:11] <Valen> IE in all the placebo controlled trials they do people know if they are on the drug or not because the drug makes them sick
[19:17:28] <CaptHindsight> their cold remedy always worked for me, take it twice a day for 7-10 days and my cold was always gone :)
[19:17:36] <XXCoder> lol
[19:18:07] <Valen> zinc has been shown to help if taken at the first symptoms
[19:18:14] <andypugh> A bottle of Southern Comfort is a sovereign remedy for colds. Just repeat the dose every night until it works.
[19:18:29] <Valen> but nobody is going to pay for big trials because you can't patent zinc ;->
[19:18:39] <CaptHindsight> I use scotch for just about everything
[19:19:09] <andypugh> Seems a waste to use Scotch if your sense of smell is out of action.
[19:19:34] <Valen> another study looked at cough medicines, and found the benefit of the medication wasn't really distinguishable from having just the alcahol in the syrup
[19:21:16] <CaptHindsight> and using water vs mouthwash and measuring the amount of bacteria 30 minutes later
[19:22:33] <R2E4_> Do the Home entries in the ini file need the + or only - if it travels in negative direction?
[19:22:42] <CaptHindsight> Valen: how controlled are meds down under?
[19:23:15] <Valen> very as a rule
[19:23:23] <Valen> but in what sense?
[19:23:38] <CaptHindsight> China is funny. I can buy antibiotics without a script, but other common over the counter meds are not available
[19:24:00] <Valen> ok that is going to screw everything up
[19:24:09] <Valen> antibiotics should be a big deal
[19:25:56] <CaptHindsight> yeah, so when you end up in the hospital or ER they go right to Ciprofloxacin
[19:28:26] <XXCoder> just dont take it for any viruses. antibonatics dont do diddy shit to them
[19:28:38] <XXCoder> except train them to make bicteria more resistant
[19:28:53] <CaptHindsight> that was the problem, they'd give it out for colds
[19:30:35] <Valen> people go to a dr when they feel sick, Dr needs to give them a pill
[19:30:55] <Valen> I believe some company is getting a placebo on the drug register here
[19:31:11] <Valen> so the doctors have something they can proscribe for people to feel better
[19:33:22] <CaptHindsight> chill pill, anti-anxiety
[19:34:57] <Valen> they are thinking for chronic pain, viruses and all the other things they can't fix
[19:35:16] <Valen> it won't have any medication in it, just a sugar pill
[19:54:49] <R2E4_> Homing is working....yoohoo!\
[19:57:06] <XXCoder> way ti go!
[20:03:12] <R2E4_> Whats left is the spindle and the tool changer.
[21:03:04] <Connor> can someone tell me how to get a pin value using python / remap ?
[21:10:31] <R2E4_> yeehaw!
[21:11:03] <Connor> Anyone? how to get a pin value using python with remap ?
[21:11:06] <zeeshan> anyone ever take a drill index apart?
[21:11:16] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/M2q7CHU.jpg
[21:11:17] <zeeshan> that shit
[21:16:19] <R2E4_> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/remap/structure.html#_optional_interpreter_features_ini_file_configuration_a_id_sub_ini_features_a
[21:18:23] <R2E4_> You have to enable it, I think.
[21:19:27] <R2E4_> enable #<_hal[Hal item]> readonly variables: 8
[21:20:21] <R2E4_> [RS274NGC]
[21:20:21] <R2E4_> FEATURES = 8
[21:46:58] <R2E4_> Conner: When do you need to use the remap on a toolchanger? When an axis has to move during a topol change?
[22:02:35] <Connor> R2E4_ No, that's not it.. that's for getting variables out of the INI file..