#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-03-08

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[02:03:18] <Deejay> moin
[02:05:00] <miss0r1> mornin'
[02:50:32] <helix247> The linuxcnc home page has turned into Cyrillic, at least in Safari ....
[03:06:39] <kengu> pretty english to me
[03:25:36] <helix247> Are you using Safari on OS X?
[03:28:07] <archivist> have you got a trojan/man in the middle attack in russia
[04:09:24] <helix247> I think I'm turning japanse ...
[04:43:11] <cnccnc1> hello world
[04:44:24] <cnccnc1> I have many problem
[04:44:45] <archivist> fix them one by one
[04:49:20] <cnccnc1> How I do modifie step and dir?
[04:49:34] <cnccnc1> I used kcam on windows
[04:52:47] <archivist> those two statements are unrelated, what is your real problem
[04:53:45] <cnccnc1> I select sherline 3 axis
[04:53:55] <cnccnc1> only x movement one direction
[04:54:38] <cnccnc1> right arrow - x go to right
[04:54:50] <cnccnc1> left arrow - x go to left
[04:56:06] <cnccnc1> sory , left arrow - x not go to left
[04:57:26] <archivist> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Stepper_Drive_Timing
[05:28:51] <RyanS> How 'excited' should I get about designing a welded steel machine stand for a 300kg CNC mill. Is that much weight to generate significant vibration and inertia from the axes?
[05:30:54] <RyanS> I'm not so much thinking can The table take the weight , but harmonics or whatever
[05:31:06] <archivist> look at some of the youtube videos where the machine shakes, iirc that hoss crap is on a sping stand
[05:31:19] <archivist> spring
[05:32:00] <RyanS> tormach 770 the official stand is a rip-off including shipping in Australia
[05:32:53] <RyanS> I've seen one design that doesn't appear all that rigid but I would not know
[05:33:37] <archivist> add bracing if they wobble
[05:34:58] <RyanS> yeah , and also bracing to transfer the weight directly from the machines base to the floor?
[05:36:45] <archivist> that what legs are for
[05:37:46] <RyanS> Not if the actual stand is wider, it would probably 'dip'
[05:38:31] <archivist> webbing under the table to keep it flat
[05:39:37] <RyanS> This looks okay, but I don't like the machine bolt down points or how the feet are mounted http://www.cnczone.com/forums/tormach-personal-cnc-mill/171357-improved-770-stand-diy.html
[06:49:44] <linuxcnc> hi
[06:50:43] <linuxcnc_newbie> anybody is Turk?
[07:33:12] <humble_sea_bass> omfg this flu
[08:34:05] <CaptHindsight> just don't follow this design for a machine frame http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfUlQRkh0jo
[08:57:07] <humble_sea_bass> that's just kendorf slotted channel
[09:00:19] <PetefromTn_> Good Saturday Morning to all my LinuxCNC friends..
[09:00:32] <humble_sea_bass> morning
[09:00:52] <PetefromTn_> humble morning to ya man..
[09:01:27] <humble_sea_bass> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vVblGlIMgw
[09:02:00] <humble_sea_bass> informative
[09:02:47] <humble_sea_bass> however, when did start making a show whose entire reason for being is to give handies to Adam Savage's money
[09:05:09] <humble_sea_bass> also, khaki pool table felt is the woooorst
[09:14:02] <PetefromTn_> I prefer the red/maroon..
[09:23:26] <CaptHindsight> polka dot, just to shake things up
[09:23:52] <humble_sea_bass> that would be hell
[09:24:31] <PetefromTn_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2itwFJCgFQ AMAZING!!
[09:25:10] <CaptHindsight> stopped by an Outdoor World/Bass Pro Shop yesterday on my roadtrip
[09:26:11] <CaptHindsight> not a big selection of nylon fish line
[09:26:29] <humble_sea_bass> i have 2 different kinds i found at walmart
[09:26:41] <humble_sea_bass> different diameters
[09:27:10] <CaptHindsight> I just can't watch most Ted Talks, it's like a corporate version of #reprap
[09:27:41] <humble_sea_bass> Ted is trying to hard to
[09:27:46] <humble_sea_bass> inspire and entertain
[09:28:04] <CaptHindsight> who is the audience supposed to be?
[09:28:11] <CaptHindsight> non tech?
[09:28:40] <humble_sea_bass> it used to be silicon valley set that likes the smell of their own farts
[09:29:35] <humble_sea_bass> then it got popular though podcasts and the general populace enjoyed getting high on platitutes with a mild sheen of technical ability
[09:30:27] <CaptHindsight> big tanks of freshwater fish, felt like a cross between an aquarium and a Chinese seafood restaurant
[09:32:22] <CaptHindsight> http://content.basspro.com/outdoorworld/storeGalleryXML/storegalleries/54_3869976_33.jpg
[09:32:43] <humble_sea_bass> this was a shop?
[09:33:03] <CaptHindsight> yeah, they had an indoor archery and shooting range as well
[09:33:19] <humble_sea_bass> in my new york?
[09:33:31] <CaptHindsight> this one was in Portage IN
[09:33:40] <CaptHindsight> but I think they have them upstate
[09:33:43] <humble_sea_bass> never in my ny
[09:34:35] <CaptHindsight> up in the Finger lakes
[09:35:09] <humble_sea_bass> I once took a fly fishing lesson around Ithaca
[09:35:15] <humble_sea_bass> it was rad
[09:35:34] <CaptHindsight> http://www.mystore411.com/store/view/928892/Bass-Pro-Shops-Auburn
[09:36:07] <PetefromTn_> Seriously that is all you got from that video..?
[09:36:23] <PetefromTn_> That was quite an impressive display of technology if you ask me.
[09:36:45] <zeeshan|2> man theres gotta be an easier way to make a 4"x2" cutout in a 14 gauge steel enclsoure
[09:36:55] <humble_sea_bass> Pete, it is amazing to be sure, but I like my presentations dry and tedious
[09:37:00] <zeeshan|2> than using a plasma cutter, dremel tool, or jig saw
[09:37:04] <zeeshan|2> and prolly a cleaner method too!
[09:37:35] * archivist hands zeeshan|2 a book on explosive metal forming :)
[09:37:45] <zeeshan|2> no
[09:38:01] <CaptHindsight> 30 second video and a single column on Phys.org is usually good enough, then link to the white paper for more meat
[09:38:22] <CaptHindsight> anything more is just showmanship
[09:38:48] <PetefromTn_> Robotic controls and algorithyms are getting more and more advanced and what was seemingly impossible just a couple years ago is now becoming commonplace. And to think I am amazed by my three axis CNC mill LOL...
[09:38:55] <humble_sea_bass> he used the phrase "redefine physics"
[09:39:02] <CaptHindsight> if it's so ground breaking then why are you trying to sell it to me?
[09:39:03] <PetefromTn_> he was kidding..
[09:39:19] <PetefromTn_> who is trying to sell what to you?
[09:39:28] <CaptHindsight> am I in a coma?
[09:39:35] <PetefromTn_> probably..
[09:40:12] <CaptHindsight> does physics now mean cheese puffs?
[09:40:20] <PetefromTn_> besides even if the entire thing WAS a sales pitch how do you think technology marches on with freebies and pennies?
[09:40:57] <humble_sea_bass> i like to watch things on mute
[09:41:13] <humble_sea_bass> it is a bad habit
[09:42:11] <PetefromTn_> What pisses me off is every friggin' video I watch on youtube has to be preceeded by a damn commercial. I mean I understand they are needing the make money but good lord I used to think it sucked watching commercials three times during a half hour TV show...
[09:42:35] <CaptHindsight> non-criminal fingerprinting services? fun for the entire family? http://www.cabelas.com/stores/store_info.jsp?pageName=021
[09:43:46] <zeeshan|2> don't diss ted talks
[09:43:49] <zeeshan|2> i did one :P
[09:43:51] <CaptHindsight> humble_sea_bass: http://www.cabelas.com/stores/store_info.jsp?pageName=023
[09:46:06] <humble_sea_bass> outdoor shops in other states are nuts
[09:46:41] <CaptHindsight> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/CabelasAquarium.JPG come inside and see outdoor outdoor display
[09:46:52] <CaptHindsight> our outdoor
[09:48:23] <humble_sea_bass> the outdoors, INSIDE
[09:48:31] <CaptHindsight> I wonder which store Tim Allen is making fun of? Cabela's or Bass Pro Shops
[09:53:32] <CaptHindsight> the Credit App has questions like: Which cousin did you marry?
[09:57:49] <humble_sea_bass> *rimshot*
[09:59:17] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: just be fair I just watched the quadcopter vid, the algorithms he refers to were developed back in the 50-80's, some actually to Newton and others
[09:59:32] <CaptHindsight> what worries me is how this stuff gets lost over time
[09:59:49] <humble_sea_bass> we have no memory
[10:00:13] <humble_sea_bass> just look at the job listing for aircraft part reverse engineering
[10:06:25] <CaptHindsight> now it would have been ground breaking if he actually did change the laws of physics
[10:06:49] <zeeshan|2> CaptHindsight: don't be a hater
[10:07:16] <CaptHindsight> I'm not, he's embarrassing
[10:08:10] <CaptHindsight> is he not able to simply describe what is actually happening or did someone tell him to add some wow to the presentation?
[10:08:27] <zeeshan|2> prolly both
[10:08:28] <zeeshan|2> :)
[10:09:21] <zeeshan|2> a new application using old control algorithms could be ground breaking
[10:09:28] <CaptHindsight> so he confuses people that are learning by telling them things that are inaccurate
[10:10:05] <emc2_new_user> hello
[10:10:11] <CaptHindsight> like numbers start at 0 and go 1, 2, 3 then 4 years later they introduce negative integers
[10:10:28] <emc2_new_user> anybody know turkish?
[10:10:52] <humble_sea_bass> nah dog, but you can take a stab in english
[10:11:08] <emc2_new_user> Ispeak a little
[10:11:09] <CaptHindsight> or that everything is made of Atoms and they are the smallest things, then later Atoms are made of .....
[10:11:39] <humble_sea_bass> I demand to be inspired
[10:11:48] <humble_sea_bass> 3D printing will solve it all
[10:11:49] <emc2_new_user> I work emc bur not configure step,velocity
[10:11:52] <s1dev> CaptHindsight: they do say that atoms are the smallest thing in late elementary school iirc
[10:11:55] <emc2_new_user> do you help me?
[10:12:05] <CaptHindsight> they should combine TED talks with wrestling
[10:13:12] <CaptHindsight> emc2_new_user: what is your actual problem?
[10:13:41] <zeeshan|2> 3d printing is just a "thing"
[10:13:41] <CaptHindsight> need help with your configuration file?
[10:14:08] <CaptHindsight> don't conflate 3D printing with recrap
[10:14:09] <zeeshan|2> unfortunately 1 in every 1000 people is creativer
[10:14:15] <zeeshan|2> to make use of 3d printing
[10:14:19] <s1dev> zeeshan|2: "things" change the world
[10:14:22] <zeeshan|2> might even be 10,000
[10:14:26] <humble_sea_bass> recrap has taken over 3d printing
[10:14:32] <zeeshan|2> s1dev: an example is this
[10:14:32] <humble_sea_bass> thanks,TED!
[10:14:45] <zeeshan|2> you hand an amazing tool like a mituotoyo vernier caliper to an engineering student
[10:14:50] <zeeshan|2> and they use it as a screw driver
[10:14:51] <zeeshan|2> lol
[10:15:15] <emc2_new_user> CaptHindsight: I try mach3 and kcam4 on windows [17:57] <emc2_new_user> kcam and emc conf is different
[10:15:16] <zeeshan|2> what i'm trying to say is, you can have amazing tools, but theres a handful of people who can make use of them
[10:15:18] <CaptHindsight> really, I thought they made really good ice picks
[10:15:18] <s1dev> and then they realize that stupid they were in 5 years and finally use it as a vernier caliper
[10:15:21] <zeeshan|2> ie users in here :)
[10:15:25] <s1dev> this is true
[10:15:34] <humble_sea_bass> zeeshan|2: that lack of sense used to get you kicked off my group when i was in college
[10:15:44] <zeeshan|2> lol
[10:15:48] <emc2_new_user> how I send you my configueation file?
[10:15:53] <zeeshan|2> dude i almost cried yesterday
[10:16:00] <emc2_new_user> or connect teamvier
[10:16:03] <zeeshan|2> i saw a guy run a 3/4 end mill through a kurt vise
[10:16:13] <CaptHindsight> don't confuse education with schooling
[10:16:16] <zeeshan|2> at the school machine shop!
[10:16:20] <s1dev> 0.o
[10:16:22] <zeeshan|2> grad student too
[10:16:48] <zeeshan|2> it went through the clamping direction through both the jaws and the vise
[10:16:56] <CaptHindsight> emc2_new_user: use pastebin.ca or similar
[10:16:59] <zeeshan|2> how do you crash that badly
[10:17:34] <zeeshan|2> there's a bunch of people at my school trying to make control algorithms where you can "copy and paste" 3d parts
[10:17:49] <humble_sea_bass> the best thing I ever saw in school was an endmill planted in a bed like excalibur
[10:17:53] <s1dev> those already exists
[10:17:59] <zeeshan|2> s1dev: they be slow
[10:18:00] <emc2_new_user> kcam conf. file or emc conf. file?
[10:18:06] <emc2_new_user> CaptHindsight:
[10:18:16] <s1dev> I guess so
[10:18:23] <s1dev> it's what they use to copy the dies for coins
[10:18:25] <CaptHindsight> emc2_new_user: whichever you have questions about
[10:18:28] <zeeshan|2> s1dev: this is like taking 3 pictures and letting the software convert to 3d model and then it's easy from there
[10:18:34] <s1dev> or that
[10:19:13] <s1dev> I wrote some firmware modifications for 3d printers that allowed you to use a digitizer probe to generate a pointmap
[10:19:31] <zeeshan|2> that's cool
[10:19:48] <s1dev> never tested them and I gave the code to someone, not sure if it ever made it into the firmware it was originally a fork of
[10:20:08] <CaptHindsight> ok, so he has some code to control plastic copters, now lets see them actually used in the skies to lift construction loads over NYC
[10:20:29] <zeeshan|2> won't happen
[10:20:30] <zeeshan|2> lol
[10:20:31] <emc2_new_user> CaptHindsight: I used kcam is work. but smilar value in emc,don't right work
[10:20:33] <s1dev> yay PID loop overshoot!
[10:21:01] <zeeshan|2> it's cheaper and faster to use a helipcopter pilot :P
[10:21:08] <s1dev> looks like it did make it in
[10:21:46] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan|2: so the best practical fit will be for blowing up stuff
[10:21:50] <emc2_new_user> motor srep per rev / driver microstepping / pulley teeth , what value this field ?
[10:22:50] <CaptHindsight> emc2_new_user: http://www.pastebin.ca/ and then post the link you get here for everyone to see
[10:23:47] <CaptHindsight> or for heating houses filled with popcorn
[10:25:29] <emc2_new_user> I don't find emc conf file, I used "linuxcnc stepconf wizard"
[10:26:49] <humble_sea_bass> emc2_new_user: go to your home folder
[10:27:07] <emc2_new_user> yes humble_sea_bass
[10:29:02] <emc2_new_user> - linuxcnc - config
[10:29:33] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_RzQpdyKsw&feature=youtu.be skip to 1:00
[10:29:41] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3d-zero.com/
[10:30:08] <humble_sea_bass> omfg
[10:30:09] <humble_sea_bass> omfg
[10:30:25] <humble_sea_bass> the first minute was teh best
[10:30:55] <CaptHindsight> lol. I have a hammer I can load you to hit yourself with if interested
[10:31:13] <humble_sea_bass> ridgidity is over rated
[10:31:25] <humble_sea_bass> kiddes getting fed in africa
[10:31:28] <humble_sea_bass> 3d printed food
[10:31:57] <emc2_new_user> .hal , .ini or .xml , which file ?
[10:32:21] <CaptHindsight> delta robot with tooling you can swap like an extruder or spindle
[10:32:38] <CaptHindsight> gee where did i see this before?
[10:33:03] <humble_sea_bass> 2004 won't be like 1994
[10:33:13] <humble_sea_bass> emc2_new_user: your ini file mang
[10:33:28] <CaptHindsight> just cut right to the chase, integrate 3d printers right into human dna, every problem solved
[10:33:43] <emc2_new_user> ok , .ini copy to pastebin.ca
[10:33:58] <humble_sea_bass> this printer takes sand and prints food from it
[10:34:04] <humble_sea_bass> i am impressed
[10:34:08] <CaptHindsight> look for the link pastebin gives you, paste that here
[10:34:20] <CaptHindsight> emc2_new_user: ^^
[10:35:36] <emc2_new_user> CaptHindsight: humble_sea_bass http://pastebin.ca/2652947
[10:35:58] <CaptHindsight> now if they could make 1964 look like 2004 that would be cool
[10:39:40] <CaptHindsight> emc2_new_user: now what problem are you having? You're not sure what your SCALE should be with your setup?
[10:40:08] <emc2_new_user> setup is wrong
[10:40:39] <CaptHindsight> how many step/rev stepper? what gearing? or pulley ratio?
[10:41:17] <CaptHindsight> emc2_new_user: what happens now with your current config? what is wrong?
[10:41:19] <emc2_new_user> my step motor 1.8 ,mil pitch 5
[10:42:23] <emc2_new_user> X axis move,but not true (go to 1 mm, machine go ~1,5mm),y and z axis not move
[10:42:36] <emc2_new_user> I will send mach3 and kcam conf file
[10:42:37] <humble_sea_bass> Ne denetleyici kullanıyorsunuz? Ne step motor?
[10:42:47] <CaptHindsight> so 1.8 deg stepper or 200 counts per rev
[10:42:56] <emc2_new_user> humble very good;)
[10:43:07] <humble_sea_bass> http://translate.google.com/
[10:43:10] <CaptHindsight> and a screw with 5mm pitch?
[10:43:22] <emc2_new_user> motor 1.8
[10:43:33] <emc2_new_user> screv 5mm right
[10:43:35] <emc2_new_user> yes
[10:43:53] <CaptHindsight> Ben bu şekilde yürüyebiliyordu eğer ben talk pudrası ihtiyacınız olmaz
[10:44:01] <CaptHindsight> If I could walk that way I would not need the talcum powder
[10:44:06] <CaptHindsight> it works!
[10:44:20] <humble_sea_bass> hahh
[10:45:14] <CaptHindsight> emc2_new_user: we won't help you with Mach3
[10:45:26] <emc2_new_user> mach3 is work
[10:45:38] <humble_sea_bass> what controller are you using
[10:45:41] <emc2_new_user> kcam is very good work,
[10:45:42] <humble_sea_bass> I don't own mach3
[10:45:49] <emc2_new_user> I look my controller 1 min
[10:45:53] <humble_sea_bass> i mean what driver
[10:47:23] <CaptHindsight> [AXIS_0] SCALE = 2048.0 [AXIS_1] SCALE = 81920.0 why the difference if you ave the same screws and motors?
[10:47:47] <CaptHindsight> [AXIS_2] SCALE = 20.0
[10:48:48] <CaptHindsight> I forget the formula again steps per rev vs pitch
[10:49:06] <CaptHindsight> and my system is in a box or in other rooms
[10:49:07] <emc2_new_user> 200*16=3200/5=640
[10:50:31] <emc2_new_user> 360 ° / 1.8 ° = 200 steps (1/1 microstep setting) 200/5 = 40 (5 for spindle pitch of 1 mm steps required to progress) setting steps p = 40 (5 pitch shaft and 1/1 microsteps setting) pr = 40 * 8 = 320 steps (5 pitch shaft and the eighth microsteps setting) steps pr = 40 * 16 = 640 (5 pitch mile and 1/16 microsteps setting)
[10:52:13] <emc2_new_user> Where these values ​​are written?
[10:52:38] <humble_sea_bass> emc2_new_user: what is your Driver Microstepping value
[10:53:10] <emc2_new_user> I don't know humble_sea_bass
[10:53:27] <CaptHindsight> SCALE is Steps / in or mm based on the units chosen
[10:54:35] <CaptHindsight> and I don't think you mean MILE (1 Mile = 1609.34m)
[10:55:45] <emc2_new_user> guess 1/16
[10:55:56] <emc2_new_user> mm
[10:56:01] <emc2_new_user> I use mm
[10:56:02] <humble_sea_bass> you stilYou still need to tell me what controller you are using, is it the Gecko G540?
[10:56:10] <emc2_new_user> no gecko
[10:56:17] <emc2_new_user> hobby cnc
[10:57:36] <emc2_new_user> control card WZM-2H042Md
[10:59:24] <humble_sea_bass> http://www.robosancnc.com/pdfs/ZM-2H042Md.pdf
[10:59:31] <emc2_new_user> yes
[11:00:00] <CaptHindsight> chart page 3
[11:00:43] <emc2_new_user> microstep setting swich
[11:00:58] <CaptHindsight> what are your settings?
[11:01:25] <humble_sea_bass> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/images/stepconf-axis.png
[11:01:40] <humble_sea_bass> see item 2? this is often a problem
[11:02:07] <emc2_new_user> I don't my card,in box
[11:02:48] <CaptHindsight> emc2_new_user: you need to see the settings
[11:03:19] <emc2_new_user> ok wait I 'll look
[11:03:22] <CaptHindsight> otherwise it's guess the screw pitch
[11:03:40] <emc2_new_user> humble_sea_bass: I try picture value?
[11:03:52] <emc2_new_user> screw pitch 5mm
[11:03:52] <humble_sea_bass> no don't use picture value
[11:03:57] <humble_sea_bass> you have to figure it out
[11:04:39] <CaptHindsight> true, I assumed the docs might actually be accurate
[11:04:46] <CaptHindsight> silly me
[11:05:08] <emc2_new_user> http://www.damencnc.com/images/products/fullsize/FSI.jpg
[11:05:25] <emc2_new_user> ok not try
[11:05:42] <CaptHindsight> so you measured the screw and it's 5m per turn and 1 start?
[11:06:02] <humble_sea_bass> You must determine the microstepping value based on your controller and tell LinuxCNC. You must also know the parameters of your screw pitch.
[11:06:05] <humble_sea_bass> Read the manual for your controller, it tells you how to determine the microstep value.
[11:06:16] <humble_sea_bass> Sen denetleyiciye bağlı Mikrostep değerini belirlemek ve LinuxCNC söylemek gerekir. Ayrıca vida sahanın parametrelerini bilmeniz gerekir.
[11:06:19] <humble_sea_bass> Denetleyicinizdeki için kılavuzunu okuyun, bu mikro değerini belirlemek için nasıl söyler.
[11:06:21] <CaptHindsight> then you can check the rotation by moving 200 steps and measure the angle
[11:06:56] <CaptHindsight> sounds like you're off by 50% on that one axis
[11:07:05] <CaptHindsight> not sure on Z
[11:08:49] <emc2_new_user> x 0 0 1 1
[11:08:56] <emc2_new_user> y 0 0 1 0
[11:10:40] <CaptHindsight> how are the switches numbered? the document says switch #4 is kept on or 1
[11:11:37] <CaptHindsight> so from your example switch# 1, 2, 3, 4 or 4, 3, 2, 1 ?
[11:12:08] <emc2_new_user> 1 2 3 4
[11:12:33] <CaptHindsight> so Y is wrong since #4 has to be a 1 or on
[11:12:59] <CaptHindsight> and 123 being 001 you are set at 16 microsteps
[11:13:06] <emc2_new_user> yes
[11:13:25] <emc2_new_user> axis 1 2 3
[11:13:29] <emc2_new_user> x 0 0 1
[11:13:35] <emc2_new_user> y 0 0 1
[11:13:46] <CaptHindsight> so 16 x 200 steps = 3200
[11:13:58] <emc2_new_user> the same
[11:14:37] <CaptHindsight> what are your units in the config? mm or inch?
[11:15:15] <emc2_new_user> yes
[11:15:35] <humble_sea_bass> you can't say yes to quesions with two options
[11:15:56] <emc2_new_user> 3200 is which value on this pic? http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/images/stepconf-axis.png
[11:16:08] <emc2_new_user> I use mm
[11:16:53] <archivist> some thinking required
[11:17:08] <CaptHindsight> 3200 actual steps per rev, 1 rev = 5mm
[11:18:52] <CaptHindsight> 3200 / 5 = 640 steps per mm
[11:20:36] <CaptHindsight> so try SCALE = 640 and test movement
[11:22:00] <CaptHindsight> off to mix up stuff, bbl
[11:22:30] <humble_sea_bass> I'm gonna go get me some lunch
[11:24:06] <CaptHindsight> 47F Monday, I wearing shorts
[11:24:47] <humble_sea_bass> given my new-found flu, good weather is criminal
[11:25:10] <CaptHindsight> figures, just when the weather gets nicer
[11:25:24] <emc2_new_user> http://hizliresim.com/upload.php
[11:25:45] <emc2_new_user> sorry
[11:25:46] <emc2_new_user> http://i.hizliresim.com/eaQV7d.jpg
[11:25:51] <emc2_new_user> is it true?
[11:26:24] <CaptHindsight> no
[11:26:32] <emc2_new_user> humble_sea_bass: thanks
[11:26:37] <emc2_new_user> humble_sea_bass: bon appetit
[11:27:08] <CaptHindsight> just change the SCALE settings in your config to 640
[11:28:05] <CaptHindsight> or if you really just are using the tool, then Motor steps: 200, microstepping: 16 leadscrew pitch: 5
[11:28:38] <CaptHindsight> AXIS SCALE should end up : 640 Steps / mm
[11:28:56] <emc2_new_user> ok I try this
[11:30:40] <emc2_new_user> pulley teeth 1:1
[11:31:06] <CaptHindsight> if that is what you have, then yes
[11:31:21] <emc2_new_user> maximum velocity :4 and maximum acceleration :200
[11:31:43] <CaptHindsight> pants? check, shoes? check, OK I'm off
[11:37:00] <emc2_new_user> thanks for all
[11:37:02] <emc2_new_user> very much
[11:37:19] <emc2_new_user> I have last question what is this value? http://hizliresim.com/xBQJEM
[11:38:35] <archivist> unreadable image use words
[11:43:39] <emc2_new_user> I check
[11:44:32] <emc2_new_user> http://imgur.com/FZd4hZN
[11:50:40] <jonasthomas> is the board logged anywhere? I posted a question and I turned my computer off... Duhhhh
[11:55:20] <PetefromTn_> http://emc.mah.priv.at/irc/
[11:56:58] <jonasthomas> thanks
[11:58:08] <emc2_new_user> CaptHindsight: are you here?
[11:59:58] <jonasthomas> freaky just read my thanks in the log..
[12:01:44] * Deejay feels being observed
[12:07:31] <Jymmm> Deejay: <-- exhibitionist
[12:08:05] <zeeshan|2> hey guys
[12:08:12] <Deejay> hi Jymmm
[12:08:13] <zeeshan|2> the power switch for a motherboard is a momentary switch
[12:08:13] <Deejay> and zeeshan|2
[12:08:14] <zeeshan|2> right?
[12:08:17] <zeeshan|2> hi
[12:08:22] <Deejay> right
[12:08:27] <zeeshan|2> ok
[12:08:34] <zeeshan|2> ill use an industrial momentary switch to turn on comp!
[12:08:38] <zeeshan|2> cause itll fit easily in the panel
[12:09:13] <zeeshan|2> momentary N.O?
[12:09:18] <Deejay> yep
[12:09:22] <zeeshan|2> :D
[12:09:35] <Deejay> the contact is closed when you press
[12:10:04] <zeeshan|2> yes
[12:17:47] <jonasthomas> words of wizdom [05:19:40] -!- PetefromTn_ has quit [Quit: Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day]
[12:24:18] <emc2_new_user> I step per settings is good but pulsating working , my mail ktarhann @ hotmail .com
[12:33:47] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:33:52] <Deejay> hi IchGuckLive
[12:35:59] <IchGuckLive> miss0r: ?
[12:48:42] <ben5446> Has anyone here had an "Unknown Operation" while digitizing?
[12:49:01] <Jymmm> no error code?
[12:49:13] <ben5446> nope
[12:49:44] <Jymmm> scrn cap?
[12:50:41] <ben5446> I run this: G90 G38.2 F#1011 X#1006 Y#1007 Z#1008 and it moves until the digitizer makes contact then returns the unknown operation error and the g-code stops
[12:52:41] <IchGuckLive> ben5446: at the first word of this
[12:52:56] <IchGuckLive> or in digitalizing somewhere
[12:53:37] <ben5446> the code only digitizes this one point
[12:54:11] <ben5446> i put debug statements before and after to see where the probram stops... it doesnt get the the one after
[12:55:15] <IchGuckLive> as the probe point is the same in X Y as the point you moved to it will trow an error
[12:55:45] <IchGuckLive> why dont you move first and then agter Z stopt get the ccordinaes
[12:56:45] <IchGuckLive> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/gcode/gcode.html#sec:G38-probe
[12:56:52] <IchGuckLive> i guess you have read this
[12:56:58] <ben5446> this is a 5 axis machine... the A axis is rotated when i digitize so i need to move X Y and Z together
[12:57:01] <Zaaarin> Is it ok to use a flycutter with a drill press? Can you make your own flycutter to bore out mild steel?
[12:57:19] <ben5446> yes, ive read that
[12:57:20] <IchGuckLive> Zaaarin: comen use
[12:57:21] <s1dev> I would imagine it would depend on your definition of ok
[12:58:06] <Zaaarin> Any schematics of a DIY flycutter linear bore head for a 350w drill press?
[12:58:09] <IchGuckLive> s1dev: mabe he goes for a big hole that will trow the drill press
[12:58:09] <Zaaarin> Using standard chut
[12:58:43] <IchGuckLive> Zaaarin: first go for center pin as big as you can
[12:59:08] <IchGuckLive> then do a 45Deg hole or cut and put in a Lathe Tool
[12:59:08] <archivist> Zaaarin, will be a huge amount of vibration if not done correctly
[12:59:10] <Zaaarin> What do I need to make a flycutter end?
[12:59:14] <ben5446> IchGuckLive: I have an almost identical program that probes in a different direction which requires no X movement which works fine
[13:01:20] <IchGuckLive> ben5446: why are you moving towards probing in all 3 axis
[13:01:50] <Zaaarin> Can I make it by welding nuts and bolts together?
[13:02:29] <IchGuckLive> Zaaarin: yes if RPM below 200
[13:02:53] <ben5446> IchGuckLive: because I have probe the part directly from the side while the part is rotated about the A axis
[13:03:08] <IchGuckLive> Zaaarin: what is the Hole Diameter to be cut
[13:03:20] <Zaaarin> minimum RPM my drill press will do is 550rpm, any ideas how I can modify it to have extra pulleys?
[13:03:49] <Zaaarin> 4inch through 10mm of steel they don't sell hole cutters that big, besides, I feel a hole saw would just pack in from the friction forces
[13:04:01] <IchGuckLive> ben5446: are yiou in G17 coords
[13:04:20] <Zaaarin> burned out my last one, I got a new powerplus drill press
[13:05:40] <Zaaarin> How do I slow my machine down beyond it's manufactured minimum speed? Weld a plate on the side, mount a 2nd pulley little pulley to big pulley from the motor then another belt going little to big to the spindle?
[13:06:37] <archivist> Zaaarin, you are asking how not to do things, we would not make 4 inch holes with such a tiny drill press
[13:06:57] <IchGuckLive> ben5446: in normal ways it is only this G38.2Z#8
[13:06:58] <IchGuckLive> (LOG,G1 X#5061 Y#5062 Z#5063)
[13:07:02] <archivist> chain drill, saw and file
[13:07:24] <Zaaarin> loads of small pilot holes then bore out the smaller ones with bigger ones all around?
[13:07:38] <archivist> something like that
[13:08:12] <IchGuckLive> ben5446: did you look inside smartprobe.ngc for probing a part
[13:08:14] <Zaaarin> at 550rpm 350watt, what's the LARGEST diam of drillbit you'd use going through thick mild steel?
[13:09:31] <archivist> depends on pilot holes, quality of steel and the rain
[13:09:44] <ben5446> IchGuckLive: is there a way i can send you my code?
[13:09:57] <archivist> pastebin
[13:10:09] <IchGuckLive> Zaaarin: google pictures "drill press flycutter
[13:10:12] <Zaaarin> 2mm pilot holes?
[13:10:19] <ben5446> IchGuckLive: yes im in G17 coords
[13:10:46] <Zaaarin> I get this: Flycutter + Drill Chuck + Drill Press = Accident Waiting to Happen!
[13:10:50] <IchGuckLive> ben5446: i dont need the code as i dont know exaxt what you want to see as a result
[13:11:28] <archivist> Zaaarin, sometimes one needs to use a number of drills to get a hole of a certain size
[13:12:22] <archivist> Zaaarin, too much power needed you only have half horse
[13:13:40] <IchGuckLive> ben5446: i assume you got a part on the X axis thar rotates around A but what is the probe doing for Generating Gcosde you only need the Z for probing
[13:14:14] <IchGuckLive> ben5446: moving along X and rotating the A
[13:14:20] <archivist> he needs as many axes as he needs not just Z
[13:14:51] <IchGuckLive> archivist: in the LOG yes but not n the Probing move
[13:15:12] <archivist> if probing the face or angle he needs what he needs
[13:15:27] <ben5446> thats correct
[13:16:20] <archivist> ben5446, I also have 5 axis, but currently done probe
[13:16:26] <archivist> dont
[13:16:52] <ben5446> i managed to probe at an angle using only Y and Z, but when I throw X in there I get the unknown operation error. But I don't understand why it will probe in the proper direction then give me the error upon contact.
[13:17:40] <IchGuckLive> ben5446: are you on 2.6.pre
[13:17:43] <Zaaarin> I think this is the best tool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTodUEUMCpk
[13:17:44] <archivist> well g38 is named Straight Probe
[13:18:03] <ben5446> technically I'm probing in a straight line
[13:18:12] <archivist> I realise that
[13:18:15] <IchGuckLive> this is ok
[13:18:29] <archivist> I think it could be a bug
[13:18:54] <archivist> or g38 needs extending
[13:18:58] <ben5446> who do I contact about fixing bugs?
[13:19:13] <Zaaarin> start a thread on the forum?
[13:19:17] <ben5446> ok
[13:19:42] <IchGuckLive> ben5446: wat version are you on
[13:19:52] <ben5446> 2.5.2
[13:20:09] <IchGuckLive> i will have a quick look inside the method
[13:20:10] <ben5446> maybe i should update?
[13:20:32] <IchGuckLive> in your case i woud go 2.6
[13:26:02] <IchGuckLive> ben5446: http://www.vdwalle.com/Norte/Probe-on-Steroids.txt
[13:27:10] <IchGuckLive> ben5446: her is the probe vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZGP7zNWq-I
[13:29:02] <ben5446> that code probes downward. Imagine probing the part from the side, but the part is tilted. my program takes the Y movement and calculates the actual movements in Y and Z to compensate for the angle
[13:31:01] <IchGuckLive> the error accures on probe contact
[13:31:36] <ben5446> my program also calculates the offset caused by the probe tip
[13:32:00] <IchGuckLive> all ok i assume its your ini Geometry seting
[13:32:09] <IchGuckLive> did you go for A XYZ
[13:32:34] <archivist> this is 5 axis not 4
[13:32:36] <IchGuckLive> if only one Rotat it needs to be that way
[13:32:55] <ben5446> actually the B axis doesn't come into play since I leave it at 0 degrees
[13:33:21] <ben5446> my kinematics compensates for the A angle so I have to reverse compensate in my program
[13:33:24] <IchGuckLive> BAXYZ != ABXYZ
[13:34:07] <IchGuckLive> the probe subroutine is fixed on Gememetry settings this is your error
[13:34:28] <archivist> I wonder if you let the kins think you may need less axes in the g38 command
[13:35:16] <ben5446> it shouldn't matter since i rotate the part first, so the probing command only needs X,Y and Z
[13:35:51] <archivist> rotate enough to remove x or y
[13:36:18] <ben5446> the kinematics should treat the A axis rotation the same whether or not I use the X in the probing command.
[13:36:57] <ben5446> the X axis requires no compensation because the B axis is not rotated
[13:39:06] <ben5446> im basically trying to probe the inside of a cylinder rotated about A. If i probe to the 6 ro 12 oclock position it works great. if I try to probe at 11 oclock it gives the error
[13:40:37] <Zaaarin> Any chance I can cut big holes with my dremel trio?
[13:40:53] <Zaaarin> mm at a time?
[13:41:02] <Zaaarin> use it like a compass?
[13:41:53] <archivist> Zaaarin, if you can get enough bits and have two years to spend on the operation
[13:42:17] <Zaaarin> lol, I take it it'll wear the dremel bits down in no time
[13:42:29] <archivist> cutting metal requires power
[13:43:20] <archivist> Zaaarin, http://www.custompartnet.com/calculator/milling-horsepower
[13:43:35] <Zaaarin> useful link thanks
[13:43:41] <IchGuckLive> ben5446: sory i need to go
[13:45:08] <Zaaarin> really handy link, bookmarked!
[13:45:18] <zeeshan|2> http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p252/turbozee84/C3600199-EF6C-476A-B0D0-BC44F593E2D2_zpso42uv675.jpg
[13:45:20] <zeeshan|2> yay
[13:45:24] <zeeshan|2> everything finally mounted
[13:45:35] <zeeshan|2> still gotta make a faraday cage for the vfd
[13:45:41] <zeeshan|2> or maybe ill do that if i have noise issues
[13:46:30] <zeeshan|2> where can i buy a .1875 end mill on a saturday? :p
[13:47:09] <ben5446> try to get lucky with the assortment pack at harbor frieght
[13:47:26] <zeeshan|2> hm
[13:47:34] <zeeshan|2> we got princess auto up here which is like harbor freight
[14:07:24] <CaptHindsight> How do you break a Harbor Freight tool?
[14:07:31] <s1dev> use it how it was made
[14:07:41] <s1dev> it's chinese, it'll break
[14:07:42] <CaptHindsight> :)
[14:09:06] <CaptHindsight> i went hand tool shopping in China a few years ago and Stanley was often the top brand..
[14:09:14] <s1dev> lol
[14:09:39] <CaptHindsight> I was at a Home Dept last week doing the same thing while out of town and the top brand was often Stanley
[14:11:08] <CaptHindsight> Husky and HDX were the others
[14:13:26] <CaptHindsight> I'm not really sure now what to do if I need tools while out of town
[14:13:44] <CaptHindsight> we used to take them as carry-on until the 90's
[14:13:58] <humble_sea_bass> dammit i missed harbor freight tool joke
[14:14:05] <CaptHindsight> I wouldn't trust a case full of tools in checked baggage
[14:14:39] <humble_sea_bass> zeeshan|2: you can buy endmills at grainger
[14:14:45] <CaptHindsight> I guess UPS if you have 2-3 days notice
[14:15:24] <CaptHindsight> but if you need to fly next/same day and you need tools I guess you're just stuck
[14:15:28] <humble_sea_bass> i spent some time in japan and I was floored when rioby wasn't hot garbage like here
[14:15:49] <humble_sea_bass> like some company bought the name or something for US distro
[14:15:53] <CaptHindsight> I know where to buy tools in Japan
[14:16:01] <CaptHindsight> might be
[14:17:05] <CaptHindsight> humble_sea_bass: where can I go in NYC? or long island?
[14:17:27] <humble_sea_bass> just about any grainger store, it will be crazy inflated price
[14:17:48] <humble_sea_bass> http://www.grainger.com/
[14:17:51] <CaptHindsight> might as well pay for UPS overnight
[14:18:47] <humble_sea_bass> yeah, planning ahead and spares are definitely cheaper, but sometimes you have a project that shits the bed and you gotta get 'er done
[14:19:04] <CaptHindsight> grainger carries Klein
[14:19:12] <CaptHindsight> $30 screwdriver
[14:19:35] <humble_sea_bass> it has nice rubber coating, does your 10 dollar screw driver have that?
[14:20:05] <humble_sea_bass> sometimes you need a high performance screw driver
[14:21:11] <CaptHindsight> 10lbs of hand tools cost me $13 to ship
[14:21:34] <CaptHindsight> ... via ground, next day is >$100
[14:25:09] <zeeshan|2> humble_sea_bass: grainger is the last place i'll shop
[14:25:15] <zeeshan|2> for personal use :)
[14:25:30] <CaptHindsight> http://www.grainger.com/product/FACOM-Insulated-Tool-Set-WP29074/_/N-/Ntt-tool%2Cset?sst=subset&s_pp=false
[14:25:35] <humble_sea_bass> do you want your endmill on a saturday afternoon or not?
[14:25:41] <CaptHindsight> $1,277.00 / each
[14:26:03] <humble_sea_bass> it matches my sneakers
[14:26:55] <CaptHindsight> they are as bad at Matco and Snapon
[14:27:02] <CaptHindsight> at/as
[14:29:31] <CaptHindsight> http://www.walmart.com/ip/21151529?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227015499816&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=41948945830&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=40011532390&veh=sem
[14:30:00] <CaptHindsight> Nitrile Coated Glove $3.75 or a 10 pack at HF
[14:30:30] <CaptHindsight> now all your tools are insulated
[14:30:54] <humble_sea_bass> wow, they opened a Fastenal a mile from me, and it just occurred to me to look at their prices
[14:31:04] <humble_sea_bass> and they are crazy reasonable
[14:31:25] <CaptHindsight> a bit high, but not as bad as Grainger
[14:47:41] <s1dev> so for a lathe CNC conversion, I would need steppers, stepper controllers, controller, power supply, endstops, preferrably ball screws, ball screw nuts, and spindle encoders, correct?
[14:48:37] <Loetmichel> that seems to sum it up
[14:48:40] <mozmck> converting the logan?
[14:48:55] <Loetmichel> if the lathe is small enpugh for steppers
[15:01:55] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/297985 http://imagebin.org/297986 not just one axis broken, two breaks!
[15:02:22] <CaptHindsight> trucking co dropped it
[15:04:45] <CaptHindsight> pretty good size SCARA as well with >10kg capacity
[15:05:06] <humble_sea_bass> it was like that when we got it boss
[15:05:36] <CaptHindsight> always check the crate before signing off on deliveries
[15:06:04] <humble_sea_bass> this one got signed for?
[15:13:41] <CaptHindsight> yeah, they signed first and then unwrapped it later
[15:40:06] <mcfloppy> hello :)
[15:47:05] <JT-Shop> 5 o'clock here or close enough\
[16:06:53] <CaptHindsight> did the clocks go ahead early there?
[16:20:58] <JT-Shop> it's always 5 o'clock somewhere
[16:21:15] <JT-Shop> specially when you just finish a 14k quote
[16:36:48] <Deejay> gn8
[17:10:40] <zeeshan|2> PetefromTn_: thanks for the idea
[17:10:41] <zeeshan|2> http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p252/turbozee84/5E547A17-C929-44F2-B55E-DB7F5E03BC3E_zps3cpiqlkh.jpg
[17:10:42] <zeeshan|2> worked out
[17:17:23] <PetefromTn_> Sure man glad to help ;)
[17:35:38] <PetefromTn_> hey guys.. Connor here.. trying to compile component for pete.. getting a error not finding several .h files.. stdlib.h
[17:35:48] <PetefromTn_> I have the build-essentials package installed..
[17:35:58] <PetefromTn_> not sure what I'm missing.. I can compile this same setup on my own machine..
[17:36:37] <cradek_> pastebin the full build command, source file, and error output
[17:37:13] <cradek> there I am
[17:37:16] <PetefromTn_> Just doing the comp --userspace file.comp then comp --compile file.c
[17:39:09] <s1dev> mozmck yeah, I realized that the compound + replacement gears would run me the same cost as a CNC conversion
[17:40:32] <Connor_CNC> http://pastebin.com/Dkn6Bw6a
[17:44:14] <Connor_CNC> cradek: That was the paste from the command
[17:47:20] <cradek> you forgot --userspace?
[17:48:17] <Connor_CNC> no, i did that first
[17:49:24] <Connor_CNC> when I do them together.. I end up with /tmp/tmp48N2ZC/wj200_vfd.comp:124: undefined reference to `modbus_strerror'
[17:49:45] <cradek> ok, that's your real error to solve
[17:49:51] <cradek> pastebin that stuff
[17:50:21] <s1dev> mozmck: I'm thinking 1200-1600 in-oz NEMA34 steppers can you suggest a controller, stepper controller, and encoder?
[17:50:33] <cradek> wait does this use libmodbus?
[17:50:39] <cradek> I doubt you can build that with comp
[17:50:57] <cradek> what are you doing? did you say it worked on another machine? are you sure?
[17:51:08] <Connor_CNC> http://pastebin.com/MyH6wkvJ
[17:51:23] <s1dev> *stepper drivers
[17:51:29] <Connor_CNC> I did it on my ubuntu 12.04 with sim and got it to compile
[17:51:49] <cradek> I don't see how
[17:52:22] <Connor_CNC> not sure either.. but.. I have a wj200_vfd.so file..
[17:52:30] <cradek> modbus.h comes from libmodbus-dev
[17:52:30] <Connor_CNC> now trying it on his machine.
[17:52:37] <Connor_CNC> yup. it
[17:52:41] <Connor_CNC> it's installed.
[17:52:45] <cradek> bbl, sorry
[17:57:08] <PetefromTn_> zeeshan|2 You there man?
[18:03:27] <s1dev> Do I need to get a mesa controller card?
[18:43:12] <Gamma-X> Anyone know a good way to make a spindle encoder for an rf45? its got a belt drive system on it...
[18:45:14] <CaptHindsight> Gamma-X: maybe an encoder on an idler on the belt
[18:45:40] <Gamma-X> CaptHindsight, can you clarify idler?
[18:46:26] <Gamma-X> oh I should have noted... it has a dual sized belt drive.
[18:46:26] <CaptHindsight> on a pulley
[18:47:17] <Gamma-X> CaptHindsight, I think I know what you mean... trying to stay away from that but it might be the nly way...
[18:48:34] <CaptHindsight> post pics of the spindle drive belts and pulleys
[18:50:47] <CaptHindsight> http://www.graetech.com/index_files/image12051.jpg http://www.graetech.com/index_files/Page975.htm
[18:50:55] <CaptHindsight> this on has a gearbox
[18:51:01] <CaptHindsight> on/one
[18:51:43] <Gamma-X> no gear box anymore... all removed.
[18:53:27] <Gamma-X> CaptHindsight, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3weHXFRtHw
[19:03:39] <humble_sea_bass> just encode with one of those infrared jams
[19:04:36] <humble_sea_bass> angrybird button is not safety first
[19:06:46] <Gamma-X> humble_sea_bass, not gonna happen lol for testing sure but input into lcnc ... no thanks!
[19:18:24] <yedikilo> hi
[19:19:17] <yedikilo> i have a pmdx 126 board, do you think it will be possible to hook up more than one driver to one step/dir output?
[19:20:22] <yedikilo> i have 9 motors to drive which are all slaves to one motor
[19:20:34] <yedikilo> they will all do the same thing
[19:20:45] <yedikilo> i just dont have enough outputs to drive them all
[19:21:15] <yedikilo> but as they will be doing the same thing, is it possible to drive them with the same signal out of the break out board?
[19:21:48] <yedikilo> any ideas?
[19:47:57] <CaptHindsight> so they sell a belt drive conversion kit without including and encoder for the motor or pulleys
[19:48:07] <CaptHindsight> and/an
[19:49:33] <CaptHindsight> Gamma-X: so where do you prefer to mount the encoder?
[19:50:09] <Gamma-X> prefferably where all the gears ursed to be.
[19:50:29] <CaptHindsight> but not as an idler
[19:50:56] <CaptHindsight> so on what pulley or motor shaft is acceptable to you?
[19:55:02] <Gamma-X> the splined drawbar
[20:00:45] <CaptHindsight> so you don't mind having to remove the encoder or disconnect it to change belts?
[20:00:55] <Gamma-X> no it do
[20:01:17] <Gamma-X> if I could mount it to the splined shaft I could mount it below the top plate where averything is seen.
[20:10:34] <archivist> take off the last pulley machine it to have a register to take an encoder disk
[20:11:39] <Gamma-X> archivist, can you show a photo? trying to understand concept...
[20:12:34] <archivist> also make sure the cable and encoder reader optos are between if the disk is on the outer of the pulley
[20:12:40] <archivist> http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2013/2013_08_04_starturn_encoder/IMG_1631.JPG
[20:13:11] <archivist> that is mounted on the outer but does not need regular belt change
[20:13:53] <Gamma-X> yeah im not trying to have a belt change...
[20:14:07] <archivist> I have just made up a pully with the disk inner for the mill but no picture yet
[20:15:34] <Gamma-X> gotta find a opto reader and disk...
[20:15:48] <archivist> make
[20:20:55] <Gamma-X> archivist, make the optical reader? lol
[20:21:35] <archivist> yes, look at the one on the starturn it is just slotted opto devices
[20:28:41] <Gamma-X> archivist, you make the disk yourself aswell?
[20:29:12] <archivist> on that no, but have made a copy of that for the mill
[20:30:11] <archivist> that one is original to the lathe, but is reasonably easy to copy
[20:31:43] <archivist> on my copy I have one deeper slot rather than a cut in the external diameter
[21:07:33] <humble_sea_bass> the end is near
[21:07:36] <humble_sea_bass> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2110528317/dark-skyes-an-epic-brony-dating-sim
[21:21:27] <s1dev> any idea on where to sell machinery?
[21:27:11] <s1dev> I've got a logan turret that I'm trying to sell
[21:31:30] <CaptHindsight> humble_sea_bass: kewl
[21:38:30] <CaptHindsight> humble_sea_bass: and they said 3D printers didn't have useful applications http://www.3ders.org/articles/20140308-make-your-own-glowing-cyberpunk-spikes-using-3d-printing-with-ninjaflex.html
[21:41:37] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWZi71JkPAA these are better than a flashlight
[21:56:23] <tjtr33> hehe i just saw that cnc-club.ru had been working with GRAPHVIZ to help visualize Hal files.
[21:56:26] <tjtr33> heres a mesa card https://www.cnc-club.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=4132&mode=view&mt=1
[21:56:50] <tjtr33> same old problem of data density and a finite sheet of paper
[21:58:05] <CaptHindsight> that's pretty much how I pictured them
[22:03:06] <PetefromTn> Well we TRIED to get the spindle setup with modbus tonight LOL....
[22:39:24] <humble_sea_bass> hi, i make 3d printed clothing
[22:40:59] <humble_sea_bass> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7DiwUlnBt4
[22:41:05] <humble_sea_bass> EVERYTHING OLD IS NEW AGAIN
[22:47:41] <tjtr33> re 3D printing womens clothes woody allen in Whats New Pussycat ...
[22:47:42] <tjtr33> I got a job at the striptease. I help the girls dress and undress.
[22:47:42] <tjtr33> Nice job.
[22:47:42] <tjtr33> Twenty francs a week.
[22:47:42] <tjtr33> Not very much.
[22:47:42] <tjtr33> Its all I can afford.