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[02:06:42] <Deejay> moin
[02:06:55] <Jymmm> Deejay: your early
[02:06:58] <Deejay> hi Jymmm
[02:07:12] <Deejay> just a few minutes ;)
[02:07:23] <Jymmm> =)
[07:13:24] * jthornton wonders how to stop and endless loop in Axis
[07:13:49] <Tom_itx> unplug it
[07:14:03] <Tom_itx> what sort of endless loop?
[07:20:25] <jthornton> one that you created!
[07:20:42] <Tom_itx> i did?
[07:28:30] <jthornton> yes, I tried to make a way to have a second op on the counter bore but forgot the o word numbering
[07:29:08] <Tom_itx> ahh
[07:48:58] <jthornton> yuck now it's all messed up
[07:54:03] <Jymmm> Anyone have/use a 410 shotgun?
[07:56:41] <PetefromTn> Jymmm: I don't have one now but I used to shoot one all the tme..
[07:57:06] <Jymmm> PetefromTn: Any good for defense?
[07:57:35] <PetefromTn> jthornton: Hey man have not had a chance to play with your program yet but I am going to here when I get a minute.
[07:58:12] <PetefromTn> Jymmm: Meh I dunno I am sure you could use it for defense but it is more suited to squirrel and bird hunting etc...
[07:58:36] <Jymmm> PetefromTn: What about bear?
[07:58:45] <Jymmm> PetefromTn: defense, not bear hunting
[07:59:12] <PetefromTn> Honestly a short barrel tactical style shotgun is a great home defense weapon and for the most part when someone has one pointed at them they usually are smart enough to go the other way..
[07:59:22] <PetefromTn> Jymmm: Seriously?
[08:00:00] <Jymmm> PetefromTn: Yes. Just trying to get an aspect of it's capabilities
[08:00:24] <PetefromTn> The only way a .410 shotgun is gonna deter a bear is if it scared him the shot is not gonna really do shit to a bear man....it will hurt him but probably just piss him off.
[08:01:15] <jthornton> oh
[08:01:18] <jthornton> ok
[08:01:20] <Jymmm> Even if it's a 410 slug?
[08:02:17] <PetefromTn> Reminds me of my father in law who has cows and bulls. One time a bull was tearing into a fence near his house and he shot it in the ass with a 12 gauge bird shot round and it just scared the bull and he ran into the field.
[08:02:55] <PetefromTn> Jymmm: Honestly man I never shot a .410 slug so I would not know..
[08:02:55] <Jymmm> PetefromTn: Even if it's a 410 slug?
[08:03:00] <Jymmm> k
[08:03:10] <PetefromTn> Why did you get a .410 given to you or something?
[08:03:55] <Jymmm> There's a savage 22/410 rifle I looked at
[08:03:57] <PetefromTn> They certainly are fun guns tho..
[08:04:04] <PetefromTn> LOL thats the one I had..
[08:04:40] <Jymmm> ah
[08:04:41] <PetefromTn> It's been years since I had it but we used it for hunting varmints and just plinking...
[08:04:56] <PetefromTn> It's a fun little gun.
[08:06:11] <Jymmm> I'm fine with the 22 for plinking, and even semi-defense, cause if you shoot a person with it, they're not gonna be too happy. But was hoping the 420 slug might be effective for something bigger.
[08:06:53] <PetefromTn> Yeah I dunno maybe...like I said we never used the slugs... mostly just shotshells..
[08:07:27] <PetefromTn> You should machine yourself a nice one hehehe
[08:07:48] <Jymmm> No mill/lathe.
[08:08:08] <Jymmm> Though I'd like to.
[08:08:36] <PetefromTn> Oh I thought you had a VMC like me..sorry.
[08:08:50] <PetefromTn> I just saw something I have never seen before...
[08:09:20] <PetefromTn> There is an ad on my local Craigslist that a fellow is selling a hand held portable planer...
[08:09:38] <PetefromTn> The thing that is unusual is that it has a curved base??
[08:10:02] <Jymmm> And, I'm not sure if SBR still applies for home made firearms or not.
[08:10:12] <PetefromTn> Never seen one of those and not really sure how it would work, is the curved base adjustable..
[08:10:13] <Jymmm> Maybe it's for columns?
[08:10:20] <PetefromTn> Jymmm: Yeah man I was just kidding..
[08:10:50] <Jymmm> I wasn't. It's legal to make your own firearms as long as you dont sell them.
[08:11:06] <PetefromTn> From what I understand you can legally make yourself a single firearm for protection and cannot sell it or something..
[08:11:12] <PetefromTn> yeah..
[08:11:49] <PetefromTn> http://knoxville.craigslist.org/tls/4347189807.html
[08:12:01] <PetefromTn> Trying to understand how this tool is useful..
[08:12:25] <Jymmm> IT says right there: Timber framing tool for finishing curved braces.
[08:12:39] <PetefromTn> I mean if you gotta plane that specific angle sure but what are the chances you will have that specific angle unless it is adjustable somehow..
[08:13:30] <Jymmm> http://www.vermonttimberworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/timber-framing-process-dark-stain-on-curved-braces.jpg
[08:13:53] <PetefromTn> I have a similar portable power planer that is flat and I use it for all sorts of shit but I cannot see how that one would be useful unless you just want that curve radius..
[08:14:10] <PetefromTn> Yeah I know what the braces are I have made them myself....
[08:14:11] <Jymmm> PetefromTn: LOOK at the link
[08:14:20] <Jymmm> They're curved
[08:15:03] <PetefromTn> I guess this tool is just made for one specific job and that is it which is fine..
[08:15:44] <PetefromTn> I used to have a Porter Cable door edge planer and it was pretty much only good for one thing LOL....
[08:21:21] <Tom_itx> Jymmm a 4/10 would just piss a bear off
[08:21:43] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: 410 slug?
[08:23:33] <Tom_itx> not sure i'd trust a slug in that barrel
[08:47:36] <jthornton> http://imagebin.org/295407
[08:54:01] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/files/g-code-generator/mill-1.6.06.zip
[08:59:15] <PetefromTn> jthornton: Nice...
[09:26:41] <jthornton> are harmonic drives only made by Harmonic Drive in Massachusetts?
[09:27:25] <CaptHindsight> nope
[09:27:48] <CaptHindsight> lots of suppliers
[09:28:06] <CaptHindsight> most robot vendors make their own as well
[09:30:15] <jthornton> any key words to search for?
[09:36:56] <syyl--> wobblegeardrivething?
[09:37:08] <syyl--> i had good success with "harmonic drive" on ebay
[09:56:09] <jthornton> a search for "harmonic drive manufacture" turned up some
[10:10:11] <jthornton> latest one
http://gnipsel.com/files/g-code-generator/mill-1.6.07.zip
[10:29:34] <Connor> File "mill.py", line 469
[10:29:34] <Connor> self.hole_preamble = widget.get_active()
[10:29:56] <Connor> ^
[10:29:56] <Connor> IndentationError: expected an indented block
[10:32:31] <Connor> jthornton: Got that when I ran it..
[10:32:45] <Connor> jthornton: I fixed on my copy.. but.. might cause issues for others..
[10:32:59] <JT-Shop> crap, thanks Connor
[10:33:28] <Connor> I'm on Python 2.7.3
[10:34:24] <JT-Shop> fix it in a minute
[10:34:57] <Connor> They're any way to get that imbedded into Axis ?
[10:35:31] <JT-Shop> good to know it runs on 2.7.3, I'm using 2.6 something that came with 10.04
[10:36:41] <JT-Shop> I bet Dewey could!
[10:37:04] <JT-Shop> you can open it in Axis and the output is sent to Axis
[10:37:48] <Connor> I know they're some things.. where you have tabs next to the tool-path screen...
[10:39:54] <JT-Shop> yea, I just don't know how to do ti
[10:39:56] <JT-Shop> it
[10:40:21] <Connor> let me play with my sim and see.. brb
[10:40:58] <JT-Shop> G93! any hints on how to calculate the F word for a X and A axis? I know the radius of A what else do I need?
[10:41:11] <PetefromTn> Connor: Hey man speaking of embedding into axis we forgot to put those wizards or whatever in there when you were over here again.. LOL
[10:41:23] <Connor> That's something I can do from remote
[10:41:35] <PetefromTn> I was hoping you would say that LOL..
[10:42:28] <PetefromTn> JT-Shop: You working on getting a fourth axis man?
[10:43:05] <JT-Shop> helping someone
[10:43:10] <Connor> JT-Shop: okay.. those are for NGCGUI_SUBFILE.. not sure they'll work with native python..
[10:43:23] <JT-Shop> XZA only
[10:43:43] <JT-Shop> gladevcp might be used
[10:43:52] <Connor> Yea..
[10:44:08] <Connor> XZA ? Wow.. that's a strange setup.. they doing some sort of cylinder engraving ?
[10:44:59] <JT-Shop> kinda
[10:45:04] <PetefromTn> I thought that was a common setup...
[10:46:24] <PetefromTn> Can't wait to get my RS232-RS485 adapter so I can try this modbus setup... That should be sweet...
[10:47:30] <Connor> PetefromTn: We still have a bit of work to do.. I still can't get that code to compile..
[10:47:53] <Connor> I think zeeshan is looking into adapting his code using that code you found..
[10:47:55] <PetefromTn> Really... that sucks..
[10:48:16] <PetefromTn> Oh really that would be nice because he was able to get more options loaded into it.
[10:49:57] <PetefromTn> I am gonna try to get the design finalized for my spindle encoder mount here over the next week and get it machined. Really want to get spindle feedback so I can do some tapping soon..
[10:50:07] <Connor> PetefromTn: That's just a matter of adding more options into the code.. which i was going to do after I could compile the component.
[10:50:49] <PetefromTn> Connor: okay man. What do you think is the problem? I have the guys email here if we need to ask a question..
[10:51:16] <Connor> PetefromTn: He designed it to compile in the FULL source code of linuxcnc, instead of a standalone component..
[10:51:33] <Connor> and Unless it makes it into MASTER, it's going to be hard for people to use it.
[10:51:36] <PetefromTn> IS that better..
[10:51:48] <Connor> In the long run yes.
[10:51:52] <Connor> brb. phone call
[10:52:02] <PetefromTn> Okay..
[10:56:32] <pcw_home> Put some left over Kimchee udon soup outside for the chickens and the sheep ate it!
[10:57:21] <jthornton> sheep faster than the chickens?
[10:59:39] <jthornton> latest version
http://gnipsel.com/files/g-code-generator/mill-1.6.08.zip
[10:59:46] <pcw_home> Big enough to boss them around
[11:03:07] <pcw_home> and head butt them if they are being a nuisance
[11:04:31] <Connor> PetefromTn: Better in long run.. as long as it makes it INTO master.. but, no telling how long that'll be.. so, if it's stand alone, it can be used by anyone.. allows for more testing.. and more development..
[11:05:05] <PetefromTn> pcw_home: Jeez man Sheep and chickens? I thought you were from Socal...LOL
[11:05:22] <PetefromTn> Connor: Yeah I guess but that does not help me any does it ;)
[11:05:37] <Connor> We'll get it sorted out.
[11:07:09] <PetefromTn> You just put me in my happy place
[11:07:53] <PetefromTn> Got some more turning to do on your part here man so I am headin out to the shop...
[11:08:10] <PetefromTn> I setup my laptop out there so I can listen in here all the time.
[11:19:55] * JT-Shop wishes cradek was around I'm sure he would have a hint for me on G93
[11:35:24] <IchGuckLive> Hi all B)
[11:35:29] <pcw_home> uhh oh freenode DDOS again
[11:43:33] <CaptHindsight> Saturday was the worst that I can recall
[11:48:57] <PetefromTn> HHmmmmm Leftover Chinese food or Leftover Black bean Mexican Chili....
[11:49:33] <jdh> mix them together
[11:49:59] <jthornton> ah there everyone is
[11:50:12] <PetefromTn> Might actually taste good but no I am goin south of the border today I think...
[11:52:11] <jdh> I'm sure she will appreciate that.
[11:53:43] <PetefromTn> Yeah well she does not get home for several hours, I think the air will be clear by then ;)
[11:57:59] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: did yo run out of bits
[11:58:23] <IchGuckLive> zeeshan: Russia had a golden time
[12:04:58] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: the way to never break a tool is to always have 2+ holes or cuts left to do :)
[12:07:08] <PetefromTn> I thought that was the way to ALWAYS break it ..
[12:07:31] <IchGuckLive> O.O
[12:08:00] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn: nah they wait until the last 1 or 2 before they break
[12:08:13] <CaptHindsight> but maybe those are just the brand I use
[12:08:20] <PetefromTn> LOL
[12:08:29] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: agree 100
[12:08:41] <archivist> or you forgetting to switch the lube on
[12:08:42] <IchGuckLive> ;% on that
[12:09:03] <IchGuckLive> i got 250 parts to go and it broke on the 248
[12:09:47] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn: did you got a look on the 3d vid
[12:09:49] <CaptHindsight> I think it might be the knots in the aluminum I get
[12:10:38] <PetefromTn> IchGuckLive: Yeah man I did. Interesting. Totally open source stuff apparently. It does look like you had to juggle programs tho. Most of that anyway.
[12:11:59] <CaptHindsight> over the weekend we learned that you have to upgrade from the liveCD to 2.5 in order to use the 5i25 or 6i25
[12:12:33] <PetefromTn> Hmm I don't thnk I did...
[12:12:52] <IchGuckLive> all open source use most the same Gl PetefromTn so if you do then a record with a openGl and got 5 different openGl systems running you will be in trouble
[12:13:03] <CaptHindsight> what version are you using PetefromTn ?
[12:13:39] <PetefromTn> whats a Gl?
[12:14:19] <PetefromTn> CaptHindsight: Nevermind I misread what you said..
[12:18:53] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: yeah that also got better performance on 2.5.2 with the 5i25 7i76
[12:18:56] <PetefromTn> IchGuckLive: What are you making 250 of?
[12:20:33] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn: OpenGL
[12:20:33] <IchGuckLive> O.O
[12:20:50] <PetefromTn> Yeah what is Gl?
[12:20:52] <jdh> anyone know if it is likely that a parallel port hardware dongle would work with a PCI-E or USB p-port adapter?
[12:22:36] <IchGuckLive> scale model parts
[12:28:52] <PetefromTn> Sweet...
[12:30:38] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn the plasma does only go for about max 200m on the sheet nossels
[12:31:14] <PetefromTn> Nice PLASMA... I want one.
[12:31:30] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: haste gesehen MM und saturn haben nun 3D drucker
[12:31:59] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn: i use USA profucts on them
[12:32:44] <PetefromTn> what gauge sheet?
[12:33:25] <IchGuckLive> 3-6mm
[12:33:53] <IchGuckLive> 8mm is ok 2 but more is only on hypertherm practicel
[12:34:19] <PetefromTn> Wow thats thick stuff..
[12:34:40] <IchGuckLive> 1mm is buggy as speed verses THC
[12:35:00] <IchGuckLive> and sheet "CURVES"
[12:35:22] <IchGuckLive> 1-2mm shoudt always be cut below waterlevel
[12:35:40] <IchGuckLive> otherwise you get a formed part ;-)
[12:39:15] <PetefromTn> Damn I ate too much Black Bean Chili :p
[12:43:44] <IchGuckLive> chili burns always 2 times
[12:44:02] <PetefromTn> Yeah but it is SO DAMN GOOD!
[12:58:14] <Jymmm> PetefromTn Ask your Doctor if Cardiac Arrest is right for you!
[12:58:47] <Loetmichel> IchGuckLive: i wonder why it is so complicated to talk english in an english channel.
[12:59:14] <PetefromTn> Jymmm: Meh beans are good for ya man...
[13:00:27] <Loetmichel> IchGuckLive: three times: when you eat it, when it reaches your stomach and when it leaves you ;-)
[13:01:05] <Loetmichel> ... and a chili withpout a read head and tears in the eyes is no chili!
[13:01:28] <PetefromTn> Loetmichel: Yeah man you tell em'...
[13:02:25] <Loetmichel> PetefromTn: do you know what "cyrrywurst" is?
[13:02:51] <PetefromTn> Nope...
[13:03:47] <Loetmichel> we have a small shop here in frankfurt, called "best worscht in town". there you get a kind of german sausage in small pieces with a thick curry/tomato/chili sauce... and a slice of bread.
[13:03:50] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: he is offen in germany so i think yes
[13:04:20] <Loetmichel> they sell it in "hotness" categorys from A to F
[13:04:32] <PetefromTn> F for freezing?
[13:04:34] <Loetmichel> and 5 different tastes
[13:04:41] <PetefromTn> LOL
[13:04:50] <Loetmichel> where a is "looser" and F is "hell breaks loose"
[13:05:05] <PetefromTn> Hang onto your shorts LOL...
[13:05:14] <Loetmichel> i can cope 'til D
[13:05:37] <Loetmichel> you have to be 18 to order d-f
[13:05:41] <Jymmm> There should be an 'M' too!
[13:05:57] <Loetmichel> and have to sing a warrant that you have been warnend for E and F ;-)
[13:06:17] <Loetmichel> they make contests regulary
[13:06:50] <Loetmichel> the paramedics are bringing away about 5% of the contestants when it comes to E and F ;-)
[13:07:38] <Loetmichel> and IIRC F is about "tasty" in texan chili ;-)
[13:08:22] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: Eh, still needs an 'M'.
[13:08:29] <PetefromTn> Reminds me when I was in the Coast Guard, I lived on Maclellan AFB in Sacto California..
[13:08:47] <PetefromTn> I had a guy living in onbase housing next door who was from Texas..
[13:08:56] <PetefromTn> Big strapping fellow but a nice guy.
[13:09:08] <PetefromTn> He used to tell me about how hot he likes his Chili...
[13:09:40] <PetefromTn> One day my future wife and I went to a chinese food restaurant and got some Kung Pao Chicken.
[13:10:02] <PetefromTn> I was eating it and they put some kinda hot peppers in it. It burned my gullet but good...
[13:10:17] <PetefromTn> so I thought of my neighbor and wanted to show him how hot they were...
[13:10:40] <PetefromTn> We picked all the hot peppers out of our Kung pao chicken dishes and put them in a baggie.
[13:10:55] <PetefromTn> When I got home I knocked on my neighbors door and showed them to him.
[13:11:05] <Loetmichel> http://www.bestworschtintown.com/wie/
[13:11:15] <PetefromTn> He was like...Are you kiddin' me man hot peppers in Chinese food?
[13:11:29] <jmasseo> some of them are brutal
[13:11:34] <PetefromTn> I told him they were really hot altho to this day I do not know what kinda pepper they were..
[13:11:42] <jmasseo> skinny red ones?
[13:11:43] <jmasseo> usually thai
[13:11:46] <PetefromTn> So he took the baggie and ate them all at once...
[13:11:56] <jmasseo> 'i told u i wuz hardcore'
[13:12:01] <PetefromTn> He started sweating and turning red..
[13:12:05] <Loetmichel> hrhr
[13:12:21] <PetefromTn> We thought we were gonna have to take him to the hospital..
[13:12:35] <Loetmichel> i haf a friend whose fahter had a korean restaurant
[13:12:40] <PetefromTn> He had to sit down and eat half a load of bread before he calmed down and my wife and I chuckled our asses off..
[13:12:40] <Loetmichel> had
[13:12:51] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: Still needs an 'M' =)
[13:12:54] <jmasseo> worst i ever had was biting into a fresh hab.
[13:12:56] <jmasseo> f that never again
[13:13:09] <Loetmichel> one day i visited him in the restaurant at lunch time
[13:13:10] <jmasseo> i have friends who abuse themselves with stupidly hot sauce. can't do it.
[13:13:18] <Loetmichel> he asked what he can bring me.
[13:13:40] <Loetmichel> i made the error of saying "yust bring me what you are eating, make no fuss"
[13:13:46] <Loetmichel> he: "really?"
[13:13:50] <Loetmichel> <- "yes"
[13:14:06] <Loetmichel> ... i NEVER had eaten something THAT hot...
[13:14:26] <Loetmichel> hours later i still had a numb mouth and tears in my eyes.
[13:14:39] <Loetmichel> and the parents and the friend wer laughing ;-)
[13:15:06] <Loetmichel> jmasseo: that depends on the habanero
[13:15:52] <PetefromTn> I like a good hot Chili tho but I usually dumb it down with corn chips and lots of sour creme to put the fire out LOL...
[13:15:58] <Loetmichel> there are some kinds that can be eaten like tomatoes. and some kinds that you should not touch without latex gloves ;-)
[13:16:12] <PetefromTn> That is true..
[13:18:12] <jmasseo> i like spice
[13:18:24] <jmasseo> i eat banana peppers, cherry peppers, jalapeno peppers
[13:18:30] <jmasseo> i order my thai food a 2 or 3 usually
[13:18:36] <jmasseo> just don't like to go too far.
[13:18:37] <jmasseo> like with beer.
[13:18:39] <jmasseo> i like hops
[13:18:42] <jmasseo> but i don't like IPA's.
[13:18:48] <jmasseo> too much
[13:19:16] <PetefromTn> I love Banana Peppers...
[13:19:42] <jmasseo> i like the flavor of habenero a lot.
[13:19:44] <jmasseo> and scotch bonnet
[13:19:47] <jmasseo> but i could'nt eat a fresh one
[13:20:06] <PetefromTn> I got a friend from Croatia that grows them in his garden and he used to bring me some at work all the time. He would just slice them up and sprinkle some salt on em and eat them.. Damn they were tasty..
[13:20:26] <jmasseo> i wish i was growing banana peppers this year
[13:20:28] <jmasseo> or cherry peppers
[13:20:30] <jmasseo> i guess it's not too late.
[13:20:37] <jmasseo> but we've got like 30 pepper plants started of unknown variety
[13:20:42] <PetefromTn> I SUCK at Gardening...
[13:20:48] <jmasseo> cuz the wife saved all the pepper seeds in the same container heh
[13:21:02] <jmasseo> mix of bells, mexi-bells, and jalapenos
[13:21:25] <jmasseo> mexi-bell is a tiny bell pepper with just a little bit of bite to it.
[13:21:48] <jmasseo> i need to learn how to pickle jalapenos so i can make my own crappy nacho slices. :)
[13:22:19] <PetefromTn> Man I need to make a damn live tailstock center adapter so I can hold large diameter stuff .
[13:24:20] <jmasseo> think ima get canning and preserving for dummies.
[13:24:25] <jmasseo> nip this problem in the bud
[13:27:26] <PetefromTn> Aw jeez man Harold Ramis died....He was so funny.
[13:27:26] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, looks like you've been busy but i don't see the 'Return Location Enable' 'End of File Enable' 'Finish Path Only' check boxes described in your documentation yet
[13:28:11] <Tom_itx> or 'Finish Diameter'
[13:28:42] <Tom_itx> looks good though
[13:29:19] <JT-Shop> read the instructions in the help file
[13:29:45] <Tom_itx> i was
[13:29:52] <Tom_itx> that's where i got all the terminology
[13:30:54] <Tom_itx> but i'm missing those options in 1.6.08
[13:31:19] <IchGuckLive> im off bye
[13:31:57] <JT-Shop> finish path is in the cb box and the rest are on the setup tab
[13:34:08] <Tom_itx> i see enable but not return location enable
[13:34:47] <Tom_itx> i see hole diameter but not roughing diameter and finish diameter... are they the same?
[13:37:23] <Tom_itx> ok i found return location enable in the setup area
[13:39:02] <tjtr33> I saw a vid using Linuxcnc & Mesa to get 20meters/min with a stepper and 10mm pitch screws.
[13:39:08] <tjtr33> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9GwtqBhJZo#action=share
[13:39:09] <tjtr33> I calculated thats near 1200 screw rpm. Is that possible with direct coupled steppers?
[13:39:40] <skunkworks> good steppers and drives.. You would have to look at the torque specs of the steppers
[13:39:45] <tjtr33> ( i thought steppers lost all torq in a few hundered rpm)
[13:40:19] <JT-Shop> roughing dia is when you don't select fininsh]
[13:40:22] <tjtr33> know of any to look at at >1000 rp,?
[13:40:30] <tjtr33> skunkworks, ^^^
[13:41:08] <tjtr33> (i have been lookin at torq curves)
[13:41:15] <Loetmichel> tjtr33: usual steppers at usual voltages (nema 17, nema23, ~40V max) loose all torque at about 600rpm
[13:41:40] <tjtr33> :( any better at like 70V nema 34?
[13:42:06] <pcw_home> The more the merrier voltage wise
[13:42:12] <archivist> bigger stepper often means more inductance and a lower max rpm
[13:42:15] <tjtr33> my charts say not :( but dangit i saw the vid
[13:42:33] <archivist> crank the volts up :)
[13:42:36] <pcw_home> Compumotor drives are 170V
[13:43:15] <pcw_home> (120V line operated)
[13:43:20] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop the parameters are a bit confusing to me
[13:43:56] <skunkworks> yes - the compumotor drives work well - I should see how many rpms I could get.
[13:44:12] <skunkworks> We have some S6's that do that.
[13:45:06] <skunkworks> tjtr33: no - I don't use steppers very often
[13:46:12] <tjtr33> skunkworks, thx, looking at 74 page compumotor S series manual now
[13:47:06] <jdh> we have a bunch of S drives here. Pretty convenient.
[13:47:27] <Tom_itx> i get about 1600
[13:47:38] <Tom_itx> if i calculated right
[13:47:57] <Tom_itx> 20 tpi screw tops out around 80ipm reliablly
[13:48:32] <Tom_itx> 48v nema23 gecko driver
[13:48:38] <tjtr33> skunkworks, the torq graphs look promising
[13:49:03] <tjtr33> Tom_itx thx! this looks hopeful
[13:49:39] <Tom_itx> runs cool too :D
[13:49:47] <tjtr33> wow, coming from EDM background, we NEVER move that fast
[13:49:59] <Tom_itx> those are rapids
[13:50:09] <Tom_itx> i wouldn't feed at those rates
[13:50:27] <Tom_itx> but it doesn't skip steps
[13:50:37] <Tom_itx> much more than that and it does
[13:51:06] <tjtr33> ok, i can reduce by 1/3 to stay in safety zone
[13:51:36] <Tom_itx> depends on the mass you're moving
[13:52:25] <tjtr33> yeh, vertical, and ~6kg
[13:54:19] <tjtr33> thso S drives look good, I need 20 rpS and they show those on the graphs as 'ok'
[13:54:37] <tjtr33> (still full torq)
[13:54:58] <PetefromTn> Just received a GORGEOUS Air rifle from a customer who wants me to make some custom stuff for it...
[13:55:53] <tjtr33> benjamin air rifle?
[13:56:00] <jdh> are S drives still current?
[13:56:05] <PetefromTn> Oh hell no..
[13:56:08] <tjtr33> just was working on one
[13:57:07] <PetefromTn> http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z67/freddiev_bucket/FWBP70Field500433.jpg
[13:57:08] <skunkworks> heh - dad has a couple Benjamin... The barrels like to separate from the pump tube.
[13:57:38] <PetefromTn> This thing is a MACHINE!!
[13:57:51] <skunkworks> wow - some people take their air rifles seriously...
[13:57:54] <humble_sea_bass> that's exquisite
[13:58:02] <PetefromTn> You should see it in person..
[13:58:05] <tjtr33> fein werk bau sweet
[13:58:33] <humble_sea_bass> olympic target rifle?
[13:58:37] <PetefromTn> Unfortunately he removed the barrel and air cylinder and butt stock and cheek piece before shipping it so it would not get damaged..
[13:58:56] <PetefromTn> But it is STILL beautiful...
[13:59:19] <PetefromTn> humble_sea_bass: actually it is an Field Target Version of the same rifle they use in Olympic Competitions..
[14:00:19] <humble_sea_bass> i wanted a similar one, but NYC doesn't even permit these
[14:00:22] <PetefromTn> This one looks a bit different from that photo, it has some beautiful stippled walnut furniture and the breech block is much larger..Other than that it is the same gun.
[14:00:31] <PetefromTn> MOVE...
[14:00:52] <humble_sea_bass> i take vacations in Virginia
[14:00:56] <Loetmichel> feinwerkbau: dont they make air rifles?
[14:00:59] <humble_sea_bass> so I can let off steam
[14:01:00] <PetefromTn> LOL that works..
[14:01:12] <PetefromTn> Loetmichel: Yup some of the finest..
[14:01:53] <PetefromTn> I have my eye on this one....
http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/003503/3503994.jpg
[14:02:09] <PetefromTn> It is much more in my meager price range yet still wicked cool and accurate.
[14:02:23] <Loetmichel> i am more the bow and arrow guy ;-)
[14:02:36] <Loetmichel> had a 90 pund compund onve
[14:02:39] <Loetmichel> once
[14:02:42] <PetefromTn> Connor: Hey man I ordered my bearing today...
[14:03:02] <PetefromTn> Loetmichel: 90LBS!!! Jeez screw that noise...
[14:03:24] <tjtr33> too cool, gotta leave and get some work done, thx guys!
[14:03:37] <Loetmichel> with 100grams(!) arrows ;-)
[14:03:40] <PetefromTn> Hey guys gotta go pick up my daughter from school be back soon.
[14:03:58] <Loetmichel> PetefromTn: yes, nice "twangggggg" when fired ;-)
[14:04:21] <PetefromTn> I recently sold a PSE Supre ME compound in all black that was sweet...
[14:04:42] <PetefromTn> My wife has a PSE bow too and my two daughters both have some as well...
[14:04:47] <Loetmichel> could have hunted for wild boars if i had a hunters license ;-)
[14:08:19] <Tom_itx> shouldn't need one for those
[14:08:23] <Tom_itx> they're a nuisance
[14:10:04] <Connor> PetefromTn: Just one ?
[14:17:15] <PetefromTn> Connor: Yeah man it was all I could afford..
[14:17:46] <Connor> ugg.. I was going to order both and save us on shipping.
[14:17:48] <Connor> oh well.
[14:17:58] <PetefromTn> My freakin' power bill is stupid high this month..
[14:18:36] <PetefromTn> I was thinking if you get your own and order the shaft I would get the phenolic for both of us..
[14:18:47] <PetefromTn> Shipping is free..
[14:19:09] <Connor_iPad> Oh. Ok.
[14:19:11] <PetefromTn> Shaft should be enough to make both of them..
[14:19:17] <jdh> what are you making?
[14:19:29] <jdh> and shouldn't you make me one too?
[14:19:29] <PetefromTn> Top secret nuclear prototype..
[14:19:38] <Connor_iPad> Msg me link to shaft.
[14:20:31] <PetefromTn> jdh: If you want one we can split the cost even further I suppose.
[14:25:39] <PetefromTn> Mcmaster part number 6112K109
[14:28:28] <PetefromTn> Oops scratch that, that is not the stainless one..'
[14:37:26] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn been runnin the mill too much ehh?
[14:37:40] <PetefromTn> Huh?
[14:37:45] <Tom_itx> your power bill...
[14:38:22] <PetefromTn> Actually no so far I have not been able to tell much difference but it has been so damn cold here the heater runs non stop for the last several weeks.
[14:39:05] <PetefromTn> I am sure it will raise the power bill once I get some steady work in here but I have only been running it a little bit lately..
[14:47:13] <humble_sea_bass> are you in a residencial location or in a commercial building
[14:57:11] <PetefromTn> me?
[15:59:58] <Connor> trying to get camview working.. having issues with emc.halio in the cfg file..
[16:15:01] <Deejay> gn8
[16:30:02] <Connor> Anyone know anything about emc.halio in reference to camview stuff? It might have gotten renamed or something..
[18:08:16] <JT-Shop> what did I miss?
[18:08:35] <JT-Shop> Connor, did you get to look at the G code generator any?
[18:08:57] <Connor_iPad> Barely.
[18:09:16] <Connor_iPad> Been playing with cam view.
[18:10:09] <Tom_itx> i looked at it briefly over lunch
[18:11:03] <JT-Shop> what is confusing about generating more than one counter bore op?
[18:11:47] <Tom_itx> finding where the settings are
[18:11:55] <Tom_itx> was one issue i found
[18:11:58] <zeeshan> its 1 click in nx!
[18:11:58] <zeeshan> ;p
[18:13:03] <Tom_itx> i wasn't sure if you combined them into one or added options so you could make a 2nd op from it
[18:13:09] <JT-Shop> are they not located in a place that makes sense?
[18:13:22] <Tom_itx> not at first no
[18:13:30] <Tom_itx> but i haven't looked at it for a while
[18:15:16] <Tom_itx> i wasn't sure what to do with the return location coordinates
[18:15:34] <Tom_itx> i would assume the x y would be the hole center already provided
[18:16:30] <JT-Shop> yea, you would have to read the manual to learn what the return coordinates is for
[18:16:31] <Tom_itx> and the z return would probably be the clearance indicated just above that dialog
[18:16:44] <Tom_itx> i read over it briefly at lunch
[18:16:54] <Tom_itx> apparently didn't soak in
[18:17:59] <Tom_itx> how is the return location Z different from the clearance Z or retract Z?
[18:19:05] <JT-Shop> return is at the end ie part change and clearance z is moving to the part and retract z is hole to hole
[18:24:52] <Tom_itx> ok so it's a 2 step process to use the rough and finish together...
[18:24:58] <Tom_itx> i see what's going on now i think
[18:25:30] <Connor_iPad> So does anyone know anything about emcview ?
[18:25:58] <Connor_iPad> Having issues with it not showing x y z corods.
[18:26:27] <Connor_iPad> Something to do with emc.halio.
[18:35:03] <PetefromTn> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/49-basic-configuration/12854-camview-emc-configuration
[18:35:50] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx, yea it is a kludge but workable
[18:36:07] <Connor_iPad> Yea. That's the issue.
[18:36:17] <Connor_iPad> I remove that segment. And it works.
[18:36:33] <Connor_iPad> Just no axis labels.
[18:37:52] <Connor_iPad> That part that I have to remove to get it to work is what handles the labels.
[18:40:11] <Connor_iPad> I think I can mount the circuit board of the camera in a alumn enclosure.
[18:40:15] <Connor_iPad> Just have to design it.
[18:40:17] <PetefromTn> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/french/forum/21-axis/2198-another-tab-for-webcam Lot of info here about webcams..
[18:42:18] <Connor_iPad> I've been all up in that thread. I think the problem is that it wasn't updated when name change happened. Or maybe with 2.6
[18:43:35] <Connor_iPad> Possible that it's giving issues is because I'm on 12.04 vs 10.04.
[18:54:13] <PetefromTn> wish I could help ya man but I dunno..
[18:54:39] <Connor_iPad> I'll figure it out
[18:57:38] <PetefromTn> Do you really want to write another webcam app with same functionality?
[18:57:38] <PetefromTn> There are plugins for camview for crosshair and to export it's position into EMC
[18:57:57] <PetefromTn> Is there a special plugin for the version you are using ?
[18:58:27] <Connor_iPad> If got it working with cross hairs. Just doesn't overlay the x y and z corods.
[19:02:36] <humble_sea_bass> is emcview supposed to close the feedback loop?
[19:02:59] <Connor_iPad> No. It's manual.
[19:03:26] <PetefromTn> It is just supposed to show the coordinates of the DRO's on the video screen right..
[19:03:56] <Connor_iPad> You can save corods and then got to the center.
[19:09:14] <humble_sea_bass> any of you rhinocam users?
[19:10:09] <humble_sea_bass> does the haas post processor spit out Linuxcnc compatible junk mostly?
[19:14:13] <Tom_itx> probably needs some tweaking
[19:14:30] <Tom_itx> i haven't found one in my cam that just works with no mods
[19:16:17] <zeeshan> humble_sea_bass: usually you can adjust the post processor to make it work ;)
[19:16:43] <Tom_itx> yeah
[19:16:53] <humble_sea_bass> ayup
[19:17:57] <humble_sea_bass> i'm just surprised someone hasn't posted a git repo with a base post processor and the necessary mods
[19:18:16] <humble_sea_bass> Tom, what cam package aere you rolling with
[19:18:17] <Tom_itx> all cams are different
[19:18:21] <Tom_itx> smartcam
[19:18:22] <zeeshan> ^
[19:18:43] <zeeshan> plus how do you modifying a propietary software
[19:18:43] <zeeshan> ;p
[19:18:46] <humble_sea_bass> but there are some packages that appear to be more popular than others
[19:18:59] <zeeshan> im using mastercam and nx
[19:19:06] <Tom_itx> mastercam has taken over the 'cheap' market now
[19:19:06] <Connor_iPad> CamBam supports LinuxCNC out of the box.
[19:19:10] <zeeshan> i spit some g-code into linuxcnc the other nice from nx and it works
[19:19:14] <humble_sea_bass> oh word
[19:19:21] <PetefromTn> Connor_iPad: Thats a stretch LOL...
[19:19:43] <Tom_itx> yeah i agree
[19:19:50] <Connor_iPad> I've never had any issues with it.
[19:19:59] <Connor_iPad> It has post processor for it.
[19:20:10] <PetefromTn> I mean yeah it works but the post is so dumbed down to nothing it is not funny...
[19:20:16] <humble_sea_bass> when i was in college i had to use Mastercam 9
[19:20:29] <humble_sea_bass> mmy disdain for it still burns bright
[19:20:36] <zeeshan> thats ancient lol
[19:20:37] <Tom_itx> at the time i liked smartcam better than mastercam
[19:20:59] <zeeshan> why
[19:21:05] <Connor_iPad> How much post processing needs to be done?
[19:21:18] <Tom_itx> it was much easier to mod posts for one thing
[19:21:35] <Tom_itx> i think you had to buy them from mastercam back then
[19:21:50] <PetefromTn> HOnestly CamBam's post processor is kinda simple to mod once you get started with it.
[19:22:00] <Tom_itx> yeah sorta
[19:22:05] <Tom_itx> took about a day to figure otu
[19:22:20] <Tom_itx> from never seeing it before
[19:22:52] <PetefromTn> I will also say that so far every piece of code I have posted was flawless to what I asked of it...
[19:23:14] <Tom_itx> all the canned cycles work ok?
[19:23:21] <PetefromTn> yeah so far..
[19:23:50] <PetefromTn> They also have some really cool plugins available that do some really neat stuff.
[19:23:57] <Connor_iPad> AFK gotta run to store.
[19:24:07] <PetefromTn> cya
[19:25:04] <zeeshan> http://community.plm.automation.siemens.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1050i7966DFC34F070C58/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1
[19:25:05] <zeeshan> win
[19:25:06] <zeeshan> :D
[19:25:31] <humble_sea_bass> Pete, this is cambam?
[19:25:44] <PetefromTn> what is?
[19:25:51] <Tom_itx> yes
[19:26:07] <humble_sea_bass> what you're referring to, regarding cool plugins
[19:26:15] <PetefromTn> my comments? Yeah I was speaking about CamBam..
[19:26:22] <Tom_itx> what sort of 'cool' plugins?
[19:26:41] <humble_sea_bass> automatic bong generator probably
[19:26:56] <PetefromTn> http://www.cambam.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=6.0
[19:27:16] <PetefromTn> Those are the ones that are currently being worked on quite a few are already in the program.
[19:28:10] <humble_sea_bass> welp their main site is down
[19:28:31] <Tom_itx> finally loaded
[19:28:52] <PetefromTn> V-carving, Trochoidal Milling, Threadmilling, Lathe etc. etc.
[19:30:35] <PetefromTn> Huh, never seen that happen before..
[19:32:33] <PetefromTn> They have of course a trial free download and it is setup for 40 saves of the software so you could use it for quite some time if you never close and save it...It is still in beta.
[19:36:51] <Tom_itx> i'm on the 2nd one
[19:47:35] <PetefromTn> Okay second what?
[19:50:18] <Tom_itx> trial run
[19:51:13] <PetefromTn> Why are you using it I thought you were good with Smartcam?
[19:52:52] <Tom_itx> looking over the cam for you
[20:14:30] <zeeshan> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1798777_2144910998897473_1867887068_n.jpg
[20:14:31] <zeeshan> lol
