#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-02-23

[10:06:15] <Loetmichel> Tom_itx: redneck version of "i dont know!" ;-)
[10:07:55] <ler_hydra> pcw_home, This is a really basic question, but I can't seem to figure out how to connect an output to two inputs. In my case, I'm trying to do "net foo axis.0.amp-enable-out => or2.0.in1", followed by "net bar axis.0.amp-enable-out => stepgen.0.enable"
[10:08:05] <ler_hydra> which generates an error on startup
[10:08:21] <ler_hydra> any pointers of how to do this?
[10:09:12] <FinboySlick> Loetmichel: Here's a redneck version of "Stayin' Alive" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axm0-t01_KM
[10:09:51] <pcw_home> net foo axis.0.amp-enable-out or2.0.in1 stepgen.0.enable
[10:10:15] <ler_hydra> pcw_home, hmm, is there any way to split that up into two lines in order to improve the readability of my HAL file?
[10:11:09] <pcw_home> net foo axis.0.amp-enable-out or2.0.in1
[10:11:10] <pcw_home> net foo stepgen.0.enable
[10:11:30] <ler_hydra> pcw_home, alright, thanks again =)
[10:16:17] <pcw_home> welcome
[10:34:40] <ler_hydra> pcw_home, sorry to pester you again, but do you know what the HOME_USE_INDEX parameter uses as it's input signal? I'm working on a system with servo controllers that are internally closed-loop (with quadrature setpoint inputs), and I'd like to use the index output from the encoder during homing. Would this be a simple as connecting the relevant I/O pin to some HAL module input?
[10:37:33] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx, bore?
[11:05:09] <JT-Shop> dunno
[11:22:54] <Tom_itx> Mill G code generator counterbores
[11:24:18] <JT-Shop> wouldn't counter bore be for SHCS's?
[11:25:34] <Tom_itx> not limited to
[11:25:40] <JT-Shop> no
[11:25:53] <Tom_itx> as an option it would be nice to have
[11:25:58] <Tom_itx> left blank ignored
[11:26:16] <Tom_itx> if you wanted to do some holes with a cleanup pass
[11:26:18] <JT-Shop> would be easy enough to just generate two passes???
[11:26:33] <Tom_itx> i suppose
[11:26:46] <Tom_itx> i generally offset .010 and do it on the last pass
[11:26:51] <JT-Shop> then would the cleanup pass be full depth or each depth
[11:27:04] <Tom_itx> full
[11:27:16] <Tom_itx> used with discression
[11:27:53] <JT-Shop> but some would want it for each pass I'd bet
[11:28:11] <Tom_itx> generally not
[11:28:24] <Tom_itx> you want to get to depth before you do a finish pass
[11:28:45] <Tom_itx> does it do the step too?
[11:28:54] <Tom_itx> if you wanna do the whole thing with a mill cutter
[11:29:10] <Tom_itx> probably not the best idea...
[11:29:17] <JT-Shop> step as in depth?
[11:29:26] <Tom_itx> for the head
[11:29:33] <Tom_itx> and shank
[11:29:49] <Tom_itx> i've got a couple drills cut for that
[11:30:11] <Tom_itx> smaller size bolts
[11:30:41] <JT-Shop> I'm not following
[11:30:58] <JT-Shop> if you are counter boring for a SHCS you drill then counter bore right?
[11:33:25] <Tom_itx> yeah but i have a step drill i use for some of them
[11:33:28] <Tom_itx> does both at once
[11:33:47] <JT-Shop> sure why not
[11:33:53] <Tom_itx> if it's a large bolt you may wanna just do it with one cutter.. the mill
[11:34:06] <Tom_itx> so have it be able to do the head step then the shank
[11:34:13] <Tom_itx> with a depth for both
[11:34:29] <JT-Shop> sure, two runs one for each
[11:34:38] <Tom_itx> 1/4"em would work for large bolts
[11:34:49] <Tom_itx> wastes time to leave the hole and come back to it
[11:34:53] <Tom_itx> do it all in one pass
[11:35:16] <JT-Shop> sure, so does using a 1/4" em for a large bolt
[11:35:33] <Tom_itx> depending how quick your tool changer is
[11:35:52] <JT-Shop> sure, sometimes I'm slow
[11:35:57] <Tom_itx> heh
[11:36:03] <Tom_itx> just offering ideas...
[11:36:09] <JT-Shop> I know
[11:36:29] <JT-Shop> I'm just weighing how much it might get used vs the time to program
[11:36:46] <Tom_itx> it's quicker to finish one hole complete than to come back to it on a 2nd pass
[11:36:53] <JT-Shop> for me I'd never do it that way
[11:37:28] <Tom_itx> then that's what you should do
[11:37:44] <JT-Shop> if time is an issue then hand coding to take fractions of seconds off the time is the thing to do as I've not seen any CAM that can really do that
[11:38:07] <JT-Shop> there is just too many variables to program for all of them
[11:38:12] <Tom_itx> i do 2 holes and combine them
[11:38:16] <Tom_itx> i know
[11:38:35] <JT-Shop> you could do each Op on all the holes then change the tool
[11:38:37] * Jymmm lol @ Tom_itx
[11:38:47] * Tom_itx smacks Jymmm
[11:39:02] <Tom_itx> just throwing ideas out there
[11:39:02] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: oh baby!
[11:39:10] <JT-Shop> I know
[11:39:39] <Tom_itx> you generally do one off's but in production time is money
[11:39:58] <Tom_itx> so if you can do an op to completion with one pass that's desireable
[11:40:05] <JT-Shop> yea, and in production you have high dollar CAM programs
[11:40:12] <CaptHindsight> http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_google_maps_insight/ 404 not found
[11:40:27] <JT-Shop> bbl
[11:40:33] <Tom_itx> true
[11:41:05] <Tom_itx> i suppose for a countersunk bolt you wouldn't need a finish pass
[11:41:17] <JT-Shop> not hardly
[11:41:36] <Tom_itx> but that op could be used for other things was what i was getting at
[11:44:15] <JT-Shop> I don't follow that?
[11:45:00] <Tom_itx> you could use it for other hole patterns that may require a finish pass
[11:46:26] <Tom_itx> do you program the tool center wiht it?
[11:46:29] <JT-Shop> sure, you can do that now just create two ops and combine them into one... just a second of copy and paste.
[11:46:38] <Tom_itx> the image appears that you do
[11:46:52] <Tom_itx> yeah i suppose you could
[11:47:03] <JT-Shop> yes, you program the XY center of any hole ops
[11:48:06] <Jymmm> What is a very simple everyday thing we do for fire prevention in our hones?
[11:48:29] <Jymmm> (not a joke, honest question)
[11:48:37] <Tom_itx> another Jymmm survey
[11:49:05] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: I just need another example beside not leaving candles burning at night.
[11:49:25] <Tom_itx> don't smoke in bed?
[11:49:55] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: If this was the 1960's that would be good.
[11:50:22] <JT-Shop> I can see the need for a checkbox for preamble and M2 for cut and paste snippets
[11:50:27] <Tom_itx> don't set your laptop on the carpet
[11:50:30] <Tom_itx> and walk away
[11:50:33] <Jymmm> lol
[11:50:43] <skunkworks> Jymmm: cleaning out dryer vents..
[11:50:52] <CaptHindsight> send your kids to school?
[11:50:59] * JT-Shop wanders inside to take nap
[11:51:29] <Jymmm> skunkworks: I know dryer lint is very flammable, but when was the last time you heard of a fire?
[11:52:01] <Tom_itx> don't cut steel dry with carbide cutters in your living room
[11:52:10] <Jymmm> =)
[11:52:45] <skunkworks> I suppose that isn't every day...
[11:52:51] <CaptHindsight> close the valves on the welding/cutting tanks after the job is done
[11:53:14] <Einar_> Turn out the flame on your O/A welder before going to bed!
[11:53:29] <CaptHindsight> don't rub balloons on your wool sweater while filling the tank
[11:54:01] <Tom_itx> don't fill the balloons with the tank and light em
[11:54:39] <CaptHindsight> turn off the flame after the bacon turns dark brown
[11:55:22] <CaptHindsight> don't dry your hair while in the tub..... no that's something else
[11:55:27] <Tom_itx> throw water on a grease fire... err oops not that one
[11:55:52] <Einar_> On a seriuos note: Don't buy no brand chinese electronics and leave them unattended!
[11:56:28] <CaptHindsight> don't gill in the house with a charcoal grill
[11:56:45] <Einar_> I've dissecated wall warts that I would ony use while watching with an extinguisher by my side.
[11:56:51] <Tom_itx> CaptHindsight, porch or balcony...
[11:56:52] <CaptHindsight> happens a few times a week in Chicago
[11:56:53] <Tom_itx> very common
[11:57:12] <zeeshan> Loetmichel: darn it we finished 3rd on the medal standings
[11:57:21] <zeeshan> but at least we dominated hockey!
[11:57:33] <Einar_> Who was firtst?
[11:57:37] <Einar_> first
[11:57:52] <zeeshan> russia
[11:58:13] <Loetmichel> russia...
[11:58:47] <Loetmichel> ... "Honi soit qui mal y pense" comes to mind ;-)
[11:58:53] <Einar_> Good for them! They paid for the show, so at least they get something back.
[12:01:09] <uw> halo
[12:01:44] <CaptHindsight> in domestic settings safety has to be pretty much built in so people don't really have to think about it, it just works
[12:02:20] <CaptHindsight> that's why there are all the safety codes to make it more or less idiot proof
[12:04:15] <CaptHindsight> the stove is about the only place left where there isn't a safety system (halon) required by code in a domestic setting
[12:11:33] <Tom_itx> not in 3rd world countries
[12:13:56] <CaptHindsight> they have different value systems
[12:14:51] <CaptHindsight> but we are catching up :)
[12:15:29] <Tom_itx> maybe a little too quick
[12:16:40] <skunkworks> Jymmm: keeping matches away from children...
[12:16:50] <skunkworks> (or lighters)
[12:17:06] <Jymmm> skunkworks: Thanks.
[12:18:44] <skunkworks> stupid question.. How do you add a page to the wiki?
[12:19:20] <Jymmm> skunkworks: just make up a url then click on edit
[12:20:27] <Jymmm> skunkworks: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?skunkworks
[12:20:54] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:21:29] <Tom_itx> Jymmm do they take on that format?
[12:21:35] <Tom_itx> or can you use your own
[12:22:04] <Jymmm> ?
[12:22:26] <Jymmm> can you rephrase that
[12:22:30] <Tom_itx> i considered adding the bitfile tutorials
[12:22:49] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/emc/xilinx/xilinx14_install_index.php
[12:22:57] <Tom_itx> but i'd like to see them like that
[12:24:14] <Tom_itx> i'd rather see them like the current document format than the wiki format
[12:25:05] <skunkworks> Jymmm: got it. Thanks.
[12:25:05] <skunkworks> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NewTrajectoryControl
[12:25:05] <skunkworks> Now I just have to write something up...
[12:25:18] <Tom_itx> oh nice one skunkworks
[12:25:26] <Tom_itx> glad you decided to do that
[12:28:24] <Tom_itx> Jymmm how do you edit an exhisting page?
[12:28:39] <Tom_itx> you gotta be owner of it?
[12:28:42] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: login at the bottom
[12:28:51] <Jymmm> nope, anyone can edit anything
[12:29:02] <Tom_itx> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?HostMot2
[12:29:09] <Tom_itx> might be better suited to put them there
[13:14:53] <PetefromTn_> hey guys, got a question, if you needed to make a plastic machined piece that is dimensionally stable with temperature and also electrically isolated what kind of plastic would you choose?
[13:16:15] <JT-Shop> ceramic
[13:16:30] <CaptHindsight> how stable over what temp?
[13:17:55] <CaptHindsight> http://www.azom.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=4100 here are some comparisons
[13:18:21] <PetefromTn_> As stable as possible over human confortable temps...
[13:18:34] <jmasseo> that's not too bad over human temp ranges
[13:18:45] <PetefromTn_> JT-Shop: Can you machine ceramic?
[13:19:00] <PetefromTn_> jmasseo: What is not too bad?
[13:19:07] <jmasseo> thermal expansion
[13:19:41] <skunkworks> it is a start http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NewTrajectoryControl
[13:20:02] <CaptHindsight> http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/linear-expansion-coefficients-d_95.html
[13:20:15] <PetefromTn_> Lets say you had a piece that was like 3.5" by 1.5" tall and it was machined with a pocket inside it, how much expansion are we talking about with say a 30 degree temp change?
[13:20:59] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: formulas are next to those tables above
[13:21:37] <PetefromTn_> I looked at some PEEK which I heard is both stable in temp and dimensional stability but for a piece of rod that size I would need to sell my car..
[13:22:11] <CaptHindsight> thats the fun of engineering
[13:22:23] <PetefromTn_> I was thinking some kinda Phenolic round stock but can't find it in a dimension that would be usable...
[13:26:16] <CaptHindsight> the lowest cost DIY would be aluminum filled epoxy
[13:27:24] <CaptHindsight> can you make it from metal and then electrically insulate the part?
[13:29:26] <CaptHindsight> what's the budget?
[13:30:19] <PetefromTn_> Ally filled epoxy huh...
[13:31:50] <PetefromTn_> CaptHindsight: That is an option but it would complicate things...Trying to make this as simple as possible..
[13:31:59] <CaptHindsight> or iron/steel powder
[13:32:36] <CaptHindsight> actually any resin filled with ceramics and or metals will reduce its CTE
[13:33:13] <os1r1s> Anyone use solidworks premium?
[13:33:30] <CaptHindsight> os1r1s: what about it?
[13:33:47] <CaptHindsight> it's not as good as NX or Catia :)
[13:34:05] <os1r1s> I need an STL reveresed to a solidworks model. I only have solidworks professional
[13:34:19] <os1r1s> I figured someone would be able to do it here :)
[13:36:33] <CaptHindsight> you can import an STL but it won't have the part history
[13:36:57] <os1r1s> CaptHindsight: I don't think I can do solid operations on it though
[13:37:08] <os1r1s> extrude cut, extrude, etc, etc
[13:37:19] <CaptHindsight> nope, it will just be "there"
[13:37:34] <CaptHindsight> no mods
[13:37:50] <CaptHindsight> unless it's in '14
[13:38:01] <os1r1s> With premium I used to be able to reverse it to models
[13:38:23] <CaptHindsight> maybe if it started in SW
[13:38:37] <os1r1s> Weird
[13:38:53] <CaptHindsight> I know imports don't work from other sources
[13:39:12] <os1r1s> I thought I did it 2012
[13:39:38] <CaptHindsight> maybe if it started in SW and then you export to STL and then re-import back to SW
[13:39:53] <CaptHindsight> maybe it tags on some metadata
[13:40:25] <Tom_itx> os1r1s you should be able to convert it
[13:40:47] <os1r1s> Tom_itx: I thought I could, but I can't seem to make it work
[13:40:51] <Tom_itx> mmm
[13:41:04] <os1r1s> I'm gonna wind up redrawing it at this rate. IT just sucks, because I need jsut a few mods to it
[13:41:29] <Tom_itx> what happens if you export that to iges then bring it back?
[13:41:41] <Tom_itx> same thing?
[13:42:13] <os1r1s> I haven't tried. Its an STL now. I can give htat a shot
[13:47:35] <PetefromTn_> Just looked up delrin and it's CTE is like 6.8 so if I am making a part that is 1.5 tall the thermal expansion of a 30 degree temp change is like .0003" does that sound correct?
[13:50:11] <IchGuckLive> os1r1s: did you got a look on my tutorials about this
[13:50:20] <os1r1s> IchGuckLive: I did
[13:50:30] <os1r1s> Scratch that
[13:50:32] <PetefromTn_> It is in/in/°f 6.8x10 to the -5 power
[13:50:39] <os1r1s> I didn't know you had tutorials :)
[13:50:40] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn_: did you recive the new 3d modeling
[13:50:45] <os1r1s> I have looked for tutorials
[13:50:50] <IchGuckLive> with the Blender wood
[13:50:58] <PetefromTn_> IchGuckLive: Huh?
[13:53:46] <PetefromTn_> Not sure what you are talking about man..
[13:56:49] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn_: dident you abo my channe sory then
[13:57:39] <PetefromTn_> IchGuckLive: Man what about 3d modeling? I don't understand you.
[14:00:02] <IchGuckLive> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gCPopFVqdc
[14:03:41] <CaptHindsight> 68.0 µ in/in-°F, 1.5" x 0.000068" x 30F = 0.00306"
[14:04:15] <IchGuckLive> im off by
[14:10:36] <PetefromTn_> CaptHindsight: It is 6.8 not 68.0 no?
[14:12:53] <CaptHindsight> http://ensinger-inc.com/products.cfm?page=product&product=delrinandreg;+acetal+homopolymer
[14:13:09] <CaptHindsight> CTE, linear 122 µ m/m-°C 68.0 µ in/in-°F ASTM D696
[14:17:28] <PetefromTn_> Yeah I see that I got 6.8 from another site pdf here..
[14:22:36] <Deejay> re
[14:27:26] <JT-Shop> so much for a bicycle ride... it's raining
[14:31:32] <Tom_itx> time to code
[14:34:45] <JT-Shop> work on the splitter a bit
[14:40:17] <PetefromTn_> It's an absolutely GORGEOUS day here today. Nice and sunny and probably 65 degrees...
[15:01:11] <CaptHindsight> for 10.04 are the blahblah.XML files supposed to be in /lib/firmware/blahblah and the blahblah.bit files in /lib/firmware/hm2/blahblah/ ?
[15:03:25] <JT-Shop> for a blahblah yea
[15:04:17] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: do the .xml files have to be in both locations or just in /lib/firmware/blahblah/ ?
[15:04:44] <JT-Shop> .xml files for what?
[15:05:20] <CaptHindsight> lest say it's a 9i63 (doesn't exist as a real part number)
[15:06:04] <CaptHindsight> so 9i63x2.xml for the sake of discussion
[15:06:22] <CaptHindsight> and I also have a 9i63x2.bit
[15:06:58] <CaptHindsight> where directory locations are they each supposed to be in?
[15:07:32] <JT-Shop> is the xml file for pncconf?
[15:07:54] <CaptHindsight> that's a good question
[15:08:21] <JT-Shop> I'm pretty sure that only pncconf uses the xml files
[15:08:30] <JT-Shop> but I may be wrong
[15:08:36] <JT-Shop> what are you trying to do?
[15:08:55] <CaptHindsight> are the *.xml files that come from the mesa site just for pncconf? say the ones from here http://www.mesanet.com/software/parallel/5i25.zip
[15:10:00] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: I'm trying to write a clear and simple howto for setting up a system with a Mesa FPGA card that has not been programmed or has the wrong *.bit file loaded
[15:12:52] <JT-Shop> gotcha
[15:13:19] <JT-Shop> I'm not sure what the xml files from Mesa are, pcw_home might know
[15:13:21] <CaptHindsight> lets say I install the live-dc and then I I grab your mill configs
[15:13:49] <CaptHindsight> live-cd even
[15:14:02] <JT-Shop> to flash the 5i25 is a fairly simple process IIRC
[15:14:11] <JT-Shop> sure
[15:14:22] <CaptHindsight> then I download your configs http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/configs/files/5i25-7i76.zip
[15:14:34] <CaptHindsight> since I am going to use the same setup
[15:15:24] <CaptHindsight> I am trying to definitively see what files have to go where
[15:15:46] <CaptHindsight> vs just having multiple copies everywhere just to be sure they work :)
[15:15:52] <JT-Shop> the 5i25 does not need a bit file to work if it is flashed for your daughter card
[15:16:20] <CaptHindsight> yes, lets say it does not or has the wrong *.bit file
[15:16:35] <JT-Shop> you don't need any files to run a 5i25... the only exception is if you change from a 7i76 to a 7i77
[15:16:36] <CaptHindsight> or you just really want to be sure it's the correct *.bit file
[15:17:03] <JT-Shop> sure, you just flash the card
[15:17:22] <JT-Shop> I have some notes somewhere... let me look
[15:17:30] <CaptHindsight> yes, it could be a change like that or to some new card 7i79 or something else new in 2 years
[15:18:31] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: ok, but where do the files all have to be placed in order for successful programming, pncconf etc to work
[15:18:56] <JT-Shop> pncconf you have to ask cmorley
[15:18:58] <CaptHindsight> without just having copies of entire trees in every /lib/blahblah
[15:19:00] <JT-Shop> on the forum
[15:19:15] <JT-Shop> like I said you don't need any files to run a 5i25
[15:19:29] <CaptHindsight> yes, I want to write the howto to cover all the cases
[15:19:56] <JT-Shop> dang I just sold another Spyder accessory
[15:20:47] <CaptHindsight> ok for instance I just installed a Linuxcnc and copied over the configs for a mill, say they are yours from http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/configs/files/5i25-7i76.zip
[15:21:06] <CaptHindsight> the PC has a new 6i25
[15:21:26] <CaptHindsight> and I grab a 7i76 and plus it all in
[15:21:46] <CaptHindsight> I don't know what 6i25 was ever programmed with
[15:22:15] <CaptHindsight> could be the recipe for chicken salad
[15:23:02] <JT-Shop> I found the mesaflash but can't find my notes
[15:23:12] <CaptHindsight> without programming this 6i25 when I run your config I get a watchdog not found in the HAL
[15:23:39] <CaptHindsight> so it looks like I have the wrong *.bit file or no bit file flashed
[15:25:24] <CaptHindsight> I know how to run the flash util
[15:26:10] <CaptHindsight> but I'm not certain where *.xml, *.bit have to be other than just copying them to 4 different places just to be sure :)
[15:29:17] <CaptHindsight> and where should the *.pin files be placed?
[15:36:29] <JT-Shop> just copying files around the computer will do nothing for a 5i25 as it doesn't use any
[15:38:06] <CaptHindsight> mesaflash needs to know what *.bit and *.pin file to use
[15:38:25] * JT-Shop learned never try and install a screen protector on your phone in a dusty shop... you ain't gonna get it on faster than dust can make mountains on your screen
[15:38:38] <JT-Shop> sure and they are in the local directory with mesaflash
[15:40:31] <cmorley> .xml and .pin file go in /lib/firmware/hm2/<BOARDNAME>
[15:41:02] <cmorley> XML files are only required for pncconf
[15:41:18] <CaptHindsight> cmorley: thank you, please continue
[15:41:42] <cmorley> the 5i25 doesn't require the .pin either as it is flashed
[15:43:11] <cmorley> .pin files go somewhere else: hold on..
[15:44:14] <CaptHindsight> are the XML files for anything other than pncconf?
[15:44:53] <CaptHindsight> I just tried a new 6i25 in a new install and I'm getting missing pin errors in the debug file
[15:45:03] <cmorley> /usr/share/doc/hostmot2-firmware-<BOARNAME>
[15:45:17] <JT-Shop> I think I made cmorley computer ring :)
[15:45:24] <cmorley> but thats just human readable pin designations
[15:45:49] <cmorley> JT-Shop : coollo
[15:45:56] <JT-Shop> CaptHindsight, that could very well be your config
[15:46:02] <JT-Shop> Hi Chris
[15:46:06] <cmorley> XML is just for pncconf
[15:46:27] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: it's your config that works fine on an exact same system
[15:46:39] * JT-Shop just did a perfect job of welding the legs on the work table of the splitter upside down
[15:46:46] <cmorley> how did you make the config for the 6i25?
[15:47:03] <JT-Shop> what pins is it complaining about?
[15:47:12] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: the only difference is that this is a brand new system and 6i25 + 7i76
[15:47:40] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: the first error is missing watchdog
[15:48:11] <CaptHindsight> cmorley: it's a good working config from another system
[15:48:51] <cmorley> name change from hm2? board not seated properly?
[15:49:05] <cmorley> AFAIK every config has a watchdog
[15:49:22] <JT-Shop> that is what I remember as well
[15:49:58] <JT-Shop> do you have the exact error?
[15:50:17] <CaptHindsight> I'll have to get IRC up on the other system, hold on
[15:52:07] <CaptHindsight> here we go
[15:53:21] <newinstall> 7i76.hal:43 parameter or pin 'hm2_5i25.0.watchdog.timeout_ns' not found
[15:53:27] <CaptHindsight> jfc the terminal with the error doesn't let you cut n paste, nice
[15:53:39] <newinstall> show pin in halcmd shows nothing as if firmware is not loaded
[15:54:35] <CaptHindsight> after flashing does it require a reboot or a complete power down?
[15:54:46] <CaptHindsight> we did a reboot anyway
[15:55:18] <cmorley> yes reboot required AFAIK
[15:55:37] <cmorley> sorry power cycle of board
[15:55:44] <CaptHindsight> newinstall: this is the actual machine
[15:56:14] <CaptHindsight> cmorley: so power off and then restart vs just a hot reboot
[15:56:20] <newinstall> this is the content of ls /usr/share/doc | grep hostmot2
[15:56:24] <newinstall> http://pastebin.ca/2645510
[15:56:24] <CaptHindsight> lets try that
[15:56:44] <cmorley> Yes I'm sure peter said a power cycle is required.
[15:57:56] <cmorley> ya the /doc files are not require for the card to work
[15:58:02] <CaptHindsight> power is coming back up
[15:58:42] <CaptHindsight> ok same problem/error
[16:00:46] <JT-Shop> yea, you need to power down the 5i25 after a flash I think
[16:01:09] <CaptHindsight> are we supposed to run the mesaflash util from the mesa.com site for the 6i25 or do we need some other version of mesaflash?
[16:01:30] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: we just did, and the problem is still there
[16:01:34] * JT-Shop looks again for his notes
[16:01:40] <newinstall> you flash with .bit file yes?
[16:03:04] <cmorley> in a terminal run halrun then:
[16:03:17] <JT-Shop> I found my notes and they are for flashing the 7i77
[16:03:17] <cmorley> loadrt hostmot2
[16:03:26] <newinstall> loadrt hm2_pci && show pin ?
[16:03:39] <cmorley> loadrt hm2_pci config=""
[16:03:46] <cmorley> show
[16:04:46] <newinstall> http://pastebin.ca/2645511
[16:05:22] <cmorley> that should shown all the available pins
[16:05:32] <newinstall> there are available pins
[16:05:35] <newinstall> *are no
[16:06:10] <CaptHindsight> so what did we miss/skip/do wrong ?
[16:07:24] <cmorley> I would guess the reflash didn't work properly?
[16:07:52] <newinstall> note that /sur/share/doc doesn't have a 5i25 folder
[16:07:59] <newinstall> *usr
[16:08:22] <cmorley> ya the 5i25 doesn't have any pin files - doesn't need them
[16:08:24] <JT-Shop> yuck, no pins
[16:08:56] <newinstall> i flashed board with 5i25_7i76x2.bit
[16:08:56] <CaptHindsight> does mesaflash use both the *.bit and the *.pin files?
[16:08:58] <JT-Shop> reseat the card and double check the jumpers on the card
[16:09:25] <cmorley> .pin file are just for humans to read AFAIK
[16:14:40] <CaptHindsight> lspci says it's still there
[16:14:47] <CaptHindsight> trying a reflash now
[16:14:52] <CaptHindsight> jumpers look fine
[16:17:03] <CaptHindsight> and same error
[16:17:39] <CaptHindsight> http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/configs/files/5i25-7i76.zip using this config
[16:18:57] <CaptHindsight> using mesaflash from the mesa site for the 6i25 that come with the software configs
[16:19:27] <CaptHindsight> http://www.mesanet.com/software/parallel/5i25.zip
[16:23:37] <CaptHindsight> this is 10.04 live cd install with 2.43
[16:23:54] <CaptHindsight> it's not upgraded to 2.5.3
[16:25:25] <CaptHindsight> any ideas?
[16:26:38] <cmorley> maybe you need to upgrade. at some point the 5i25 was added to hostmot2 just not sure when
[16:26:53] <cmorley> but 2.5 might be it
[16:27:02] <CaptHindsight> lets try that
[16:27:35] <Jymmm> too many fucking different TYPES of plumbing threads =(
[16:29:06] <CaptHindsight> cmorley: didn't you write some updated mesaflash util as well?
[16:29:24] <CaptHindsight> https://sites.google.com/site/andrewscnc/files/5i25UPDATE.zip?attredirects=0&d=1
[16:29:26] <cmorley> No not me.
[16:30:16] <cmorley> those are the XML file for using pncconf
[16:30:18] <CaptHindsight> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/39-pncconf/26359-5i25-firmware-install-utility#41140
[16:30:49] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: around?
[16:31:06] <CaptHindsight> unless his flasher is for 2.5?
[16:31:19] <CaptHindsight> did the locations for the required files change?
[16:31:54] <cmorley> the pin, doc and XML file locations didn't change
[16:32:17] <cmorley> I've never flashed a 5i25 so can't help much there
[16:32:25] <CaptHindsight> ok, 2.5 upgrade in progress
[16:32:38] <CaptHindsight> I can also try swapping 6i25's
[16:41:55] <CaptHindsight> ok
[16:42:09] <CaptHindsight> so by upgrading to 2.5 it works!!!!
[16:45:27] <CaptHindsight> so if someone wants to use 6i25 they have to use 2.5
[16:46:48] <CaptHindsight> or a 5I25
[16:48:06] <CaptHindsight> cmorley: AND JT-Shop THANK YOU!
[16:48:26] <cmorley> excellent! glad could help
[16:48:51] <Jymmm> No thanks necessary, Insert Credit Card here -> [ ]
[16:49:04] <CaptHindsight> we'll compare later to see what changes were made
[16:49:20] <CaptHindsight> also when moving this to gentoo on x86 and ARM
[16:50:36] <CaptHindsight> so the only reason for .XML files is for pncconf?
[16:51:20] <CaptHindsight> I'll write this all up for noobs starting with a LiveCD
[16:54:44] <CaptHindsight> I also need to write up howto flash new firmware for noobs from the liveCD install
[16:55:04] <CaptHindsight> but it looks like install and upgrade to 2.5 is step 1 and 2
[16:59:22] <CaptHindsight> Tom_itx cover some of this already http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/emc/xilinx/xilinx92_install_index.php
[17:00:07] <CaptHindsight> but this is just a mess https://sites.google.com/site/andrewscnc/home/mesa5i25
[17:00:27] <CaptHindsight> nice pics though!
[17:05:22] <pcw_home> CaptHindsight: mesaflash only needs the bitfile
[17:05:24] <pcw_home> (its almost but not quite capable of making pin files for pinout reference)
[17:07:32] <pcw_home> (and you have to cycle the power to update the FPGA with the nre flash EEPROM data)
[17:09:26] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: so what are the *.pin files for? reference?
[17:11:42] <pcw_home> yes pinout reference
[17:12:15] <CaptHindsight> and *.XML are only used for pncconf?
[17:12:52] <pcw_home> yes
[17:13:02] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: ok, great thanks!
[17:13:44] <CaptHindsight> I have to explain this to a government group this week
[17:14:08] <CaptHindsight> nothing like one hand not knowing what the other was doing
[17:16:14] <pcw_home> gummint or gummint contractor?
[17:16:15] <Deejay> gn8
[17:17:20] <Tom_itx> pcw_home you care to add that to the hostmot2 wiki page?
[17:18:34] <CaptHindsight> guberment
[17:18:58] <Tom_itx> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?HostMot2
[17:19:02] <Tom_itx> or is that an old link
[17:19:08] <CaptHindsight> and university research lab
[17:19:49] <pcw_home> pretty ancient
[17:22:20] <CaptHindsight> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811208054 fits in a carry-on
[17:22:45] <CaptHindsight> also has room for 24-40V DC supply and 7i76/7
[17:23:51] <Tom_itx> k
[17:25:01] <CaptHindsight> how long has it been since the core devs worked for NIST?
[17:25:28] <CaptHindsight> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinuxCNC
[17:26:21] <CaptHindsight> what is old is new again
[17:37:21] <alex_joni> CaptHindsight: after the switch to sourceforge NIST didn't do much around emc
[17:37:28] <alex_joni> they still develop rcslib though
[18:14:17] <Tom_itx> CaptHindsight, you were asking about cases couple days ago... inside the APEX case (large files): http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/intel_atom/detail/DSC_0007.JPG http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/intel_atom/detail/DSC_0008.JPG http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/intel_atom/detail/DSC_0011.JPG
[18:15:58] <zeeshan> pyvcp uses xml too
[18:16:02] <zeeshan> whoops
[18:16:06] <zeeshan> i was scrolled back ;p
[18:16:53] <CaptHindsight> Tom_itx: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811208054 using this
[18:17:25] <Tom_itx> i was scrolling the logs looking for something and noticed you asked
[18:17:54] <CaptHindsight> thanks for the pics
[18:17:56] <zeeshan> why is the 5i25 card so popular
[18:18:12] <zeeshan> is it because it doesnt lag like a parallel port? p
[18:18:17] <Tom_itx> cheap and good
[18:18:17] <Tom_itx> and that
[18:18:26] <CaptHindsight> Tom_itx: it's a bit too tall to fit into a carry-on with wheels
[18:18:40] <Tom_itx> the one you got?
[18:18:44] <Tom_itx> or the apex
[18:18:57] <Tom_itx> i think the apex would fit
[18:18:58] <CaptHindsight> Tom_itx: your Apex
[18:19:15] <CaptHindsight> it would fit a backpack type
[18:19:45] <CaptHindsight> just not mine with wheels and telescoping handle
[18:50:29] <tjtr33> CaptHindsight is andrew of Andrew's CNC someone who I can visit? 20 meters per minute! to hell with linear motors and voice coil motors!
[18:51:58] <tjtr33> 13.13333 inches per second , damn!
[18:55:25] <CaptHindsight> tjtr33: heh, is that claim in there somewhere?
[18:56:06] <tjtr33> video, supposedly with mesa stepper ( either incredible thread or a 2" pitch screw )
[18:56:32] <tjtr33> you know him?
[18:56:55] <CaptHindsight> no, i just saw the howto and thought maybe it was a howto
[18:56:59] <tjtr33> (maybe 12" pitch screw )
[18:57:09] <CaptHindsight> but it's just a page of stuff
[18:57:13] <tjtr33> well thx for the link, sure fired me up!
[18:58:24] <CaptHindsight> Y axis 20000 mm/m heh
[18:58:57] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9GwtqBhJZo
[19:07:14] <tjtr33> didnt look like 13"/sec but the foreshortened angle could have fooled me
[19:07:33] <tjtr33> (old guy , no depth of vision ;)
[19:09:33] <tjtr33> damn! click on the little (i) button, he does say 20m/min at 1G acc and on a stepper
[19:14:09] <tjtr33> i understand the 1610 means 16mm dia and 10mm pitch, but "1000mm/m^2" is gibberish
[19:15:02] <tjtr33> taking the video ino non-linear editor to see the time duration of his 200mm motion
[19:15:07] <tjtr33> into
[19:20:02] <tjtr33> i see 200mm(~8inches) in 1.033secs, thast with accel & decel ramps included, so it really is fast, i cant prove its 20m/min but its fast if that is really 800mm
[19:23:25] <tjtr33> Andrew is Australian 9 from his parts list )
[19:27:32] <tjtr33> hell with a 10mm pitch screw thats only 4000 steps per sec in full step mode, but with 0.050mm steps (grainy) hmm workable! cool beans
[19:52:12] <tjtr33> 333mS acc at 1m/S^2, then 333mS cruise at 20m/min , then 330mS de-acc at 1m/S^2, yes can be done , its just hell on the components
[20:43:07] <PetefromTn_> Jeez man my wife and I are tearing apart out kitchen here today and I our house is a disaster area from it LOL...
[20:53:59] <PetefromTn_> But I did manage to get some CNC time today so it's all good..
[20:56:33] <Tom_itx> stress relief?
[20:59:05] <Tom_itx> wonder what master added that requires usb now
[20:59:14] <Tom_itx> modbus?
[21:00:11] <PetefromTn_> Are you speaking to me?
[21:00:22] <Tom_itx> the channel
[21:00:27] <Tom_itx> you on the stress
[21:00:43] <PetefromTn_> We want the modbus personally to run my VFD and it was not even on my machine for some odd reason.
[21:01:19] <PetefromTn_> We got it installed yesterday tho and the machine is updated to the latest master release.
[21:01:20] <Tom_itx> i just pulled master and had to install a libusb lib
[21:01:32] <Tom_itx> not unless you just pulled it :D
[21:01:57] <Tom_itx> it probably changes daily
[21:02:06] <PetefromTn_> well it is not I am not messing with it..
[21:02:20] <Tom_itx> i could show you how, it's pretty easy
[21:02:41] <PetefromTn_> Connor showed me somewhat but we had issues with it so I am not entirely sure.
[21:02:41] <Tom_itx> did he install a 2nd copy or is it your main running ver?
[21:02:55] <PetefromTn_> why would you need a second copy?
[21:02:57] <Tom_itx> i'm running 3 versions
[21:03:08] <Tom_itx> 2.5.3, master and TP
[21:03:24] <PetefromTn_> I dunno you would have to ask him.
[21:03:45] <Tom_itx> you could put it in a directory by itself
[21:04:04] <Connor> We just updated him to latest master as of yesterday.
[21:04:11] <PetefromTn_> Nice thing now tho is that we got the ethernet setup so I can just drag a cable out there from my wifi router and plug in any time we need to.
[21:04:38] <PetefromTn_> I think we did a real nice job installing the RF45 connector setup into the side of the pendant.Looks stockish..
[21:04:55] <Tom_itx> so you added a plug?
[21:05:00] <PetefromTn_> Yeah..
[21:05:39] <PetefromTn_> and we used a short cable going to the atom boards ethernet plug from a double sided RJ45 thing Connor made up... Looks nice and clean..
[21:06:07] <Tom_itx> see you already have master in your source locations now
[21:06:26] <PetefromTn_> what does that mean?
[21:06:51] <Tom_itx> easier for you to do an update
[21:07:00] <PetefromTn_> okay yeah I hope so.
[21:07:06] <Tom_itx> one less step to do
[21:07:14] <Connor> yea.. you should be able to do sudo apt-get install linuxcnc
[21:07:28] <PetefromTn_> We did have one little issue with the update where we had to change something about the MPG but Connor found and fixed it.
[21:08:32] <PetefromTn_> I am gonna order one of those RS232-RS485 adapters here in a minute so I can try to get the Modbus spindle setup like Zeeshan.. That looks kickass.
[21:08:50] <Tom_itx> got a link to his comp?
[21:09:38] <PetefromTn_> Connor: Hey man I found a great source for some cheap Phenolic plastic that we can use for the project but it is 1" thick plate. We will just scale down the thickness of the base it should work fine..
[21:09:58] <Tom_itx> nice n brittle
[21:10:13] <PetefromTn_> Tom_itx: No man I don't but he was showing pics of it yesterday.
[21:10:27] <Tom_itx> i think i saw that
[21:10:33] <Tom_itx> with all the data on screen?
[21:11:09] <PetefromTn_> He managed to get the load metering and other interesting stuff into it. Real sweet setup hoping he can help me get mine done the same way.
[21:12:11] <Tom_itx> i'd like to figure comps out
[21:12:27] <PetefromTn_> Tom_itx: The Phenolic is for a design that is solely static and has no load applied whatsoever. Just machined and pocketed and gonna be screwed down to something... I don't want to spill the beans until we have a working model...
[21:12:27] <Tom_itx> not that i need any but i like to learn new stuff
[21:12:46] <Tom_itx> it's just brittle to machine
[21:13:23] <Tom_itx> i'd probably use 4 flute on it.. haven't really cut that much of it
[21:13:23] <PetefromTn_> Really I did not find it that way.. Machined a couple pieces for another customer awhile back on my RF45... cut like butter.
[21:13:37] <PetefromTn_> I used a 3 flute maritool cutter as I recall..
[21:14:35] <Connor_iPad> PetefromTn_: how's the machine running today?
[21:14:43] <PetefromTn_> I got a call from a customer today who had been wanting me to build her a custom kitchen. She is on my facebook and she is REALLY wanting me to build it for her. I may have to cave in here and do it...
[21:15:25] <PetefromTn_> Connor: So far so good man. Not done a lot with it but turn it on and run some air cuts to make sure nothing changed. Looks the same except for the damn feedrate override thing..
[21:16:39] <PetefromTn_> My wife and kids just went to sleep and I usually go out there about now and try to make parts because it is quiet and I don't have any distractions... But after tearing apart my whole kitchen today I may wait until tomorrow...
[21:17:34] <PetefromTn_> Connor: What plans do you have for that rotab, is there a fourth axis setup someone has done with it?
[21:17:54] <Connor_iPad> Yes. I saw one on ebay.
[21:18:08] <Connor_iPad> Let me find link. Brb.
[21:20:29] <PetefromTn_> I think I got all the Cam work sorted out for that plate today. I changed it a bit because I did not like how I did it the first time...
[21:20:33] <Connor_iPad> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CNC-4th-Axis-Rotary-Table-100mm-4-inch-with-Gecko-G540-DB9-connector-/321159131733?pt=BI_Tool_Work_Holding&hash=item4ac6937255
[21:21:07] <PetefromTn_> LOL Holy smokes that motor looks bigger than the whole table...
[21:21:52] <Connor_iPad> Yea. Mine will be done slightly different.
[21:22:09] <PetefromTn_> Is that a brake on it?
[21:22:52] <Connor_iPad> Where?
[21:23:58] <Connor_iPad> I think it's a round stepper. With a standoff.
[21:25:09] <Connor_iPad> Got the last panels of my enclosure caulked.
[21:25:30] <Connor_iPad> Maybe I can put the mill back together.
[21:26:21] <PetefromTn_> Nice man.. That rotab actually looks like it works pretty nice... I think I want like an 6 or 8" model tho...
[21:30:32] <PetefromTn_> http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-precision-horizontal-and-vertical-rotary-table-/181314647423?pt=BI_Tool_Work_Holding&hash=item2a3731f57f
[21:30:39] <PetefromTn_> Might go with something like that..
[21:31:20] <Connor_iPad> Yea. Looks good.
[21:43:00] <PetefromTn_> http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/151220872971?lpid=82&item=151220872971&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466 I wonder how hard it would be to adapt one of those to a rotary axis setup...
[22:03:04] <tjtr33> that 200m/sec setup would need 1200 rpm with stepper direct coupled to 10mm pitch screw,
[22:03:05] <tjtr33> not good for steppers :( no torq if that rpm reached
[22:33:32] <PetefromTn> Connor: Making your part man....
[22:50:31] <zeeshan> make me a part too!
[22:52:51] <PetefromTn> zeeshan: Yeah man what you need?
[22:55:09] <PetefromTn> I love machining in the shop at night...quiet and peaceful out here and I can listen to my music and just enjoy the machining LOL..
[22:57:49] <zeeshan> hehe
[22:57:55] <zeeshan> nothing yet!
[22:58:01] <zeeshan> im just teasing
[22:58:12] <zeeshan> are you thinking of adding a 4th axis to your machine?
[22:58:17] <PetefromTn> Part is looking good so far..
[22:58:22] <PetefromTn> Oh hell yeah..
[22:58:42] <zeeshan> :]
[22:58:52] <zeeshan> 4 axis really pretty much lets you machine whatever you can imagine.
[22:59:10] <PetefromTn> Yep it is a whole other world with four axes...
[22:59:30] <zeeshan> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CNC-4th-Axis-Rotary-Table-100mm-4-inch-with-Gecko-G540-DB9-connector-/321159131733?pt=BI_Tool_Work_Holding&hash=item4ac6937255
[22:59:36] <zeeshan> i personally dont like those kinds of tavbles
[22:59:42] <zeeshan> its usually a worm gear driving it
[22:59:44] <zeeshan> which has backlash
[22:59:54] <zeeshan> the best setups are direct drive or timing belt drive
[23:00:07] <PetefromTn> yeah but it is cheap and you can get the backlash adjusted to be pretty low...
[23:00:30] <zeeshan> http://www.mwmachinery.com/photos/4657.jpg
[23:00:32] <zeeshan> these are about the same
[23:00:38] <zeeshan> but you can direct drive
[23:01:00] <zeeshan> the only problem is
[23:01:03] <zeeshan> you need a lock.
[23:01:05] <PetefromTn> yeah that is what I want but gotta find one cheap is the problem...
[23:01:22] <zeeshan> the nice thing about that ebay one is
[23:01:36] <zeeshan> its a worm drive so its only one way power transmission
[23:01:37] <zeeshan> :P
[23:02:02] <zeeshan> man i just got done a 45 page lab report
[23:02:07] <zeeshan> its got graphs everywhere
[23:03:05] <PetefromTn> Graphics makes everything better ;)
[23:03:54] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/KrPZEzU.png
[23:04:03] <zeeshan> so much work to just make a single graph
[23:04:03] <zeeshan> ;[
[23:05:42] <PetefromTn> Well Connor's part is finished in the Mill...
[23:05:51] <zeeshan> whatd you make for him
[23:07:00] <zeeshan> btw that chinese rs485 adapter works
[23:07:04] <zeeshan> right out of the box
[23:07:11] <zeeshan> so be confident in spending the 5$
[23:07:11] <zeeshan> :D
[23:07:19] <PetefromTn> It is an adapter plate to mate his 3 jaw chuck to that rotab.
[23:07:36] <PetefromTn> Yeah I need to order one can ya shoot me the link again?
[23:08:53] <Connor> PetefromTn: Cool.
[23:08:57] <Connor> How it turn out ?
[23:11:10] <PetefromTn> Well.... I am having to manuallly machine off the corners of the square material because I screwed up and did not put enough cut offset on the goaround pass but other than that it looks good...
[23:14:05] <zeeshan> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-2-Pcs-9-PIN-RS-232-to-RS-485-Adapter-Interface-Converter-Non-Powered-US-/111049875409?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19db169fd1
[23:14:07] <zeeshan> if you need two
[23:14:07] <zeeshan> ;p
[23:14:17] <zeeshan> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-9-PIN-RS-232-to-RS-485-Adapter-Interface-Converter-/190539776031?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5d0e401f
[23:14:20] <zeeshan> might be cheaper to get 2
[23:14:26] <zeeshan> since the shipping is 5 $ vs 7$
[23:15:04] <zeeshan> 9+5 = $14 for 2 of em vs 5.61+7=~13$ for 1
[23:15:05] <zeeshan> lol
[23:15:10] <zeeshan> fak i shoulda bought two
[23:17:08] <Connor_iPad> Waits we baited breath to see pictures of my part.
[23:21:00] <zeeshan> http://machineks.com/zdjecia/279/16718_150935.jpg
[23:21:02] <zeeshan> fuck
[23:21:03] <zeeshan> i wsant that
[23:21:10] <zeeshan> 5 axis!!!!!!!11
[23:21:41] <zeeshan> that looks like the 5 axis table at one of the places i worked
[23:21:41] <zeeshan> !
[23:22:02] <PetefromTn> http://imagebin.org/295346
[23:22:08] <CaptHindsight> eeww pea green
[23:22:21] <zeeshan> fancy pete!
[23:23:04] <CaptHindsight> broke my last 1/8" end mill
[23:23:09] <PetefromTn> LOL yeah real fancy..EXcuse the funky cuts around the corners of the square I forgot to make the path large as the outisde of the material.
[23:23:18] <CaptHindsight> 2nd to the last hole as usual :)
[23:24:56] <Connor_iPad> Looking good
[23:26:13] <PetefromTn> Yeah now just gotta pop it in the lathe tomorrow and get it done. Should be finished tomorrow morning sometime. Gotta get to bed so I can take the kids to school tomorrow morning without draggin ass...
[23:26:56] <Connor_iPad> How are you going to get it seperated from the plate?
[23:27:12] <PetefromTn> Whaddya mean?
[23:27:36] <Connor_iPad> You machine it all the way through?
[23:27:49] <Connor_iPad> And use tabs?
[23:28:01] <PetefromTn> It goes in the lathe and I cut the OD off from the bottom side first then turn it around and clean up the boss for the chuck.
[23:29:41] <Connor_iPad> Cool
[23:30:35] <PetefromTn> Looks like it came out pretty good here. Just tried one of the small screws in the slot and it fits fine.
[23:30:59] <Connor_iPad> Great.
[23:31:04] <PetefromTn> Got that 5/16 drill loaded into an ER32 collet and everything went real nice...
[23:31:19] <PetefromTn> I found using the max velocity was not that bad really..
[23:32:14] <PetefromTn> Tomorrow morning I will pull it out of the vise and get some turning done on it after I finish up that other side of the wheel that is already in the chuck because I had it zeroed out nice and don't want to screw with doing it again.
[23:33:03] <PetefromTn> Connor: Did you see that link zeeshan posted for the adapter, do we need one that has that little board attached or what?
[23:33:16] <Connor_iPad> Oh yea. Don't make more work for yourself.
[23:33:38] <Connor_iPad> Yea. That's fine. It's just a break out board.
[23:34:10] <PetefromTn> Yeah but do we need it? Or are we gonna just get a shielded DB whatever cable and run it back there and breakout the wires we need on it?
[23:35:23] <Connor_iPad> What connector does the other types have?
[23:36:00] <PetefromTn> Incidentally the slots in the part look like they did not cut all the way thru but they did actually I made the cut .755 and it kinda left a super thin plate on the bottom that you can punch out with your fingers easily so apparently my quarter inch cutter TLO is off just slightly...
[23:36:06] <PetefromTn> what other types?
[23:36:43] <PetefromTn> Hang on a sec gotta put my dog out before I head to bed here...
[23:36:49] <Connor_iPad> Not sure. I've not looked at the,
[23:36:53] <Connor_iPad> Them
[23:38:59] <Connor_iPad> Those break out boards come off.
[23:39:28] <PetefromTn> yeah I guess that one will be fine no?
[23:40:01] <Connor_iPad> Should be fine.
[23:41:09] <PetefromTn> Did you see my comments about the phenolic material earlier..
[23:41:28] <Connor_iPad> Not sure.
[23:42:29] <Connor_iPad> I can go back and look in scroll back on my computer.
[23:43:04] <Connor_iPad> Still trying to figure out hey we can't use alum for the base. I'm sure we can isolate the brass without issues.
[23:43:28] <PetefromTn> Art told me about a place that sells plastics and they have phenolic plate remnants for cheap.
[23:43:56] <PetefromTn> Only problem and I don't really think it is a problem is they only have up to 1" stuff..
[23:44:28] <PetefromTn> Okay just bought that RS232-RS485 adapter...
[23:45:15] <PetefromTn> zeeshan: Thanks for the link man I can't wait to get that thing and try this Modbus spindle control. Gonna be sweet to have RPM and load feedback,,,
[23:46:24] <PetefromTn> Connor: That would be fine with me man... I got a bunch of small pieces of 6061 here to make it with just need some kinda isolator then between the two...
[23:49:49] <Connor_iPad> Poke
[23:50:03] <Connor_iPad> You get kicked ?