#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-02-22

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[00:00:06] <zeeshan> i think he was trying to build a standard component that comes with linuxcnc
[00:00:47] <PetefromTn> Yeah that is exactly what he was trying to do from the postingz I read.
[00:01:04] <PetefromTn> So its unusable?
[00:01:05] <zeeshan> it'll be much faster
[00:01:07] <zeeshan> just to rip his code out
[00:01:13] <zeeshan> and throw it in a standard driver the compiles..
[00:01:56] <zeeshan> for example..
[00:02:16] <zeeshan> running, direction, ready, alarm, at_speed, frequency is all he's reading from the drive
[00:02:28] <Connor_iPad> Not unusable. It has the proper registeres and stuff.
[00:02:46] <Connor_iPad> Not reading torque or amps which well want.
[00:03:07] <zeeshan> he's doing 3 write commands only
[00:03:17] <zeeshan> setfrequency, reset (if the vfd trips), and set direction
[00:03:25] <zeeshan> sorry one more, "run"
[00:03:27] <Connor_iPad> It's a very basic driver.
[00:03:38] <zeeshan> looks stupid similar to mine
[00:03:53] <zeeshan> i bet all i need is the addresses for each thing.
[00:03:55] <zeeshan> that is all
[00:04:19] <Connor_iPad> May be easier to adapt yours to it by replacing the registers.
[00:04:27] <zeeshan> yea
[00:04:32] <zeeshan> dude stuff like this irritates me
[00:04:47] <zeeshan> you have this nice code that can't compile
[00:04:48] <zeeshan> lol
[00:04:53] <PetefromTn> Yeah me too :p
[00:05:11] <Connor_iPad> Yea. Only issue is. I don't have the drive to test with. And don't want to try to code in Pete's shop.
[00:05:46] <Connor_iPad> So, will have to code it. And try it. Trial and error m
[00:06:11] <zeeshan> is there a copy of this manual online somewhere PetefromTn/connor?
[00:06:42] <Connor_iPad> Yes. PetefromTn can you tell him where the manual is. The one with Appendix B ?
[00:06:45] <PetefromTn> Yeah ill try to get it but I'm on my cell...
[00:07:04] <Connor_iPad> Where did you buy it?
[00:07:36] <zeeshan> i found the manual
[00:07:36] <zeeshan> ;D
[00:07:43] <Connor_iPad> Drive warehouse ?
[00:07:45] <zeeshan> http://driveswarehouse.com/p-2537-wj200-110lf.aspx
[00:07:46] <zeeshan> yea
[00:07:49] <zeeshan> lol google first hit
[00:09:05] <PetefromTn> http://driveswarehouse.com/documentation/Hitachi/WJ200M.pdf
[00:09:31] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn looking over some old files we used G41 for cutter comp in the ones that used it at all
[00:09:58] <Tom_itx> same as you would use G43 with the H word
[00:10:10] <PetefromTn> Dunno how Connor searched the modbus section again tho.
[00:10:12] <Tom_itx> G41 Dxx
[00:10:42] <Tom_itx> then it reads the D word from the tool table file
[00:10:52] <Tom_itx> which you set to a nominal tool diameter
[00:11:01] <Tom_itx> or adjust it based on wear
[00:11:17] <PetefromTn> Yeah I know but gotta get CamBam to play nice with it here hopefully.
[00:11:40] <Tom_itx> just add it in where you put the H word
[00:11:44] <Connor_iPad> Ctl-f modbus
[00:11:46] <Tom_itx> if you want to use it
[00:12:21] <Connor_iPad> Page 355
[00:12:24] <PetefromTn> Tom...okay thanks will try it. Connor...I thought it was Ctrl S...damn.
[00:12:37] <Connor_iPad> F for Find
[00:12:48] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn it probably should be on a linear move line
[00:12:50] <Tom_itx> not Z
[00:12:52] <zeeshan> connor
[00:12:56] <zeeshan> go to page 353
[00:12:58] <PetefromTn> Not S for friggin' search LOL...
[00:13:15] <zeeshan> page 353 in the pdf or b-24 on the actual page numbers
[00:13:28] <Connor_iPad> Page 355 for monitor registers 353 for command registers.
[00:13:55] <zeeshan> sorry youre right
[00:13:56] <zeeshan> 355
[00:14:46] <zeeshan> looks different than how my vfd is controlled
[00:15:20] <Connor_iPad> Kinda sucks not a standard.
[00:16:26] <zee-Lathe> mine seems really simple? or i might be doing it wrong
[00:16:28] <zee-Lathe> it works..
[00:16:31] <zee-Lathe> write_data[0] = (*(haldata->rpmset)/29)*10; //frequency set, note: 1740 name plate speed / 60hz = 29rpm/hz
[00:16:41] <zee-Lathe> preset_single_register(param, slavedata->slave, 0x0705, write_data[0]);
[00:16:41] <Connor_iPad> I mean modbus is a standard protocol. But. The commands are not standard.
[00:16:56] <zee-Lathe> i execute those 2 commands to set the frequency on the drive
[00:18:25] <zee-Lathe> the way wj200m looks like is to put it in run/stop state
[00:18:36] <zee-Lathe> you gotta use the coil functions in the modbus library
[00:19:36] <zee-Lathe> the only register you write to is the frequency
[00:20:43] <Tom_itx> later guys
[00:20:46] <zee-Lathe> cya
[00:20:48] <Connor_iPad> Later tom
[00:21:00] <PetefromTn> Later Tom...
[00:21:06] <Connor_iPad> Well get it figured out.
[00:21:28] <zee-Lathe> omfg
[00:21:34] <zee-Lathe> the coils is even easier to work with
[00:21:40] <zee-Lathe> they're either 1 or 0.. lol
[00:21:51] <Connor_iPad> Still think the noise issue is the VFD generating emf on the cable linking the pic to the Break out board.
[00:21:51] <PetefromTn> Guys I am falling asleep here will talk more about this tomorrow if you don't mind.. sure appreciate the help....
[00:22:18] <Connor_iPad> Okay PetefromTn
[00:22:21] <zee-Lathe> so all you gotta do is "force_single_coil(parameters (like 8n2), slaveaddress, coil address, 1 or 2)
[00:22:23] <zee-Lathe> nice and simple!
[00:22:28] <zee-Lathe> cya pete!
[00:22:57] <PetefromTn> Yeah man I REALLY want to get this going but I am czonked..
[00:23:24] <PetefromTn> I love to hear simple
[00:23:54] <PetefromTn> Connor see ya tomorrow morning man....have a good night.
[00:24:03] <Connor_iPad> Okay PetefromTn
[00:24:22] <zee-Lathe> Connor_iPad, do you see anything about output current
[00:24:25] <zee-Lathe> in the registers?
[00:24:31] <Connor_iPad> One sec.
[00:24:53] <zee-Lathe> nm
[00:25:00] <zee-Lathe> they are listed at page 359
[00:25:14] <zee-Lathe> wow this drive has a watt-hour monitor lol
[00:25:21] <Connor_iPad> Page 359
[00:25:40] <zee-Lathe> okay, so the only major difference is the writing of the direction and run state
[00:25:48] <zee-Lathe> other than that, its all the same as my drive with different addresses.
[00:25:55] <Connor_iPad> Cool
[00:26:16] <zee-Lathe> this is a way better drive than my vfd.
[00:26:24] <zee-Lathe> its got so much extra monitoring parameters.
[00:26:36] <zee-Lathe> 1010h builtin torque monitor
[00:28:04] <zeeshan> :D
[00:28:35] <Connor_iPad> Yea. It's nice
[00:29:34] <zeeshan> watt hour meters are in energy meters, not vfds!
[00:30:07] <Connor_iPad> Vids?
[00:30:17] <zeeshan> of
[00:42:35] <Connor_iPad> Logging off myself.
[02:31:16] <Deejay> moin
[04:30:35] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[08:00:39] <PetefromTn> Mornin' fellow CNC junkies..
[08:05:09] <Loetmichel> g'day PetefromTn
[08:05:26] <PetefromTn> G'day mate LOL.. I thought you were German??
[08:12:58] <Loetmichel> i am
[08:13:30] <Loetmichel> so what? its 15:56 over here ;-)
[08:13:39] <Loetmichel> that fits for "g'day"
[08:13:51] <Loetmichel> 14:56
[08:14:37] <PetefromTn> Just sounded rather auzzie is all man hehe
[08:16:19] <Loetmichel> <- nearly as typing lazy as any aussie ;-)
[08:21:04] <PetefromTn> Got my pal Connor coming over today possibly. We are gonna have a mini LinuxCNC meeting in the shop here today. Got lots of cool stuff to do and gonna make some parts too..
[08:21:32] <Tom_itx> gonna get a tool changer workin?
[08:22:06] <PetefromTn> Damn man I wish LOL..
[08:22:17] <Tom_itx> what you waitin for?
[08:22:27] <Tom_itx> it ain't gonna do itself
[08:22:45] <PetefromTn> I'd just be happy with an update to linuxCNC and some mods to the control setup and a start on the modbus stuff...
[08:23:03] <PetefromTn> No it ain't gonna do itself you are totally right there.
[08:23:22] <Tom_itx> so what you gonna do _after_ breakfast then?
[08:23:58] <PetefromTn> My wife is tearing up my kitchen right now painting and we found a hole in the wall behind the stove that needs patched so we are gonna of course tear out a huge panel of sheetrock instead of just a small patch...
[08:24:22] <Tom_itx> probably quicker in the end
[08:24:45] <PetefromTn> Tom_itx: Well it is my Oldest Daughter's birthday she is coming over today for a little while so we are gonna head out and get a cake and some kinda present after Breakfast..
[08:26:00] <PetefromTn> I get what your are shovelin' here tho man I NEED to get moving on this toolchanger hehe...
[08:26:39] <PetefromTn> Honestly if I could get my VFD working with Modbus like our pal Zeeshan has with all that feedback we would be a step closer that is for sure..
[08:26:52] <Tom_itx> getting GIT installed and able to keep master updates would be a help though
[08:27:59] <PetefromTn> yeah that is the plan today I suppose. Got that long cable ready so we can install stuff quickly but I need to remove that big ass panel behind the pendant to do it because I have not gotten that RJ45 connector plug plate installed yet.
[08:28:29] <PetefromTn> Hoping an update will fix some of the niggly annoyances like the tool table editor problem.
[08:28:31] <Tom_itx> so mount that today too
[08:28:44] <PetefromTn> I would but I don't have it yet..
[08:29:11] <PetefromTn> Been working on getting these sidewheels programs done and making parts all week. Also working on some lathe parts for customer.
[08:29:54] <Tom_itx> so the proverbial ball is starting to roll downhill a bit ehh?
[08:31:03] <PetefromTn> huh?
[08:31:09] <PetefromTn> You mean work coming in?
[08:31:12] <Tom_itx> yeah
[08:31:52] * Tom_itx goes to walk the dogs
[08:32:27] <PetefromTn> Honestly this work is coming from my own products which is nice but I am hoping for some projects from customers on a consistent basis..
[08:33:36] <PetefromTn> Or rather products that they want made on a consistent basis so it is not so sporadic here..
[09:59:01] <PetefromTn> https://www.facebook.com/FOX21NewsColorado/photos/a.291830687608.119676.228459267608/10151691325512609/?type=1&theater This is a crackup..
[09:59:01] <PetefromTn> I bet that kid sold a TON of cookies LOL..
[11:47:19] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[14:16:26] <pcw_home> JT-Shop: we have silver laced Wyandottes and a few kind of feral chickens that adopted us
[14:16:28] <pcw_home> (the coyotes can catch the Wyandottes but not the feral chickens, too fast and good flyers)
[15:02:34] <MrSunshine_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlLCWF57SxM <-- hmm looks like he is using a center drill as engraving bit .. and it looks to work good? =)
[15:30:15] <someone972> Can Linuxcnc do spirals, or just helixes?
[15:31:54] <JT-Shop> sort of spirals
[15:33:04] <JT-Shop> someone972, http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/subroutine-library/27513-polar-spiral
[15:33:22] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx, I added counterbore and a help file to the G code generator
[15:34:31] <JT-Shop> pcw_home, I found Murray McMurray hatchery and they describe the Wyandottes as male female and straight run. Any idea what straight run means?
[15:34:42] <someone972> Now are these spirals a single movement in the tp, or are they composed out of multiple circles or lines when the g-code interpreter runs?
[15:34:53] <zeeshan> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/subroutine-library/27513-polar-spiral
[15:34:59] <zeeshan> your spelling for cancel is wrong
[15:35:03] <zeeshan> sorry just picking on you
[15:35:03] <zeeshan> :-)
[15:36:36] <JT-Shop> lines
[15:37:14] <pcw_home> JT-Shop: straight run means ~1/2 roosters probably no what you want!
[15:37:33] <JT-Shop> ah thanks
[15:38:12] <pcw_home> 1 rooster is good (if you dont mind the crowing)
[15:40:02] <JT-Shop> I hate the crowing!
[15:40:30] <someone972> Ok, then another question I had that maybe someone can answer is: When a tool offset is used, is this offset done by the tp, or is it done by the g-code interpreter before sending the commands to the tp?
[16:11:27] * JT-Shop broke down and ordered some click and ship peel and stick labels
[16:14:54] <Deejay> gn8
[16:22:12] <MrSunshine_> anyone tried engraving bits from china and can tell me their experience with them ? =)
[16:45:56] <someone972> So let me try and get this strait in my mind: LinuxCNC uses ONLY lines and helix/circles internally correct?
[16:51:53] <pcw_home> I guess it depends on what you mean by internally (the TP does parabolic blends)
[16:54:10] <Tom_itx> MrSunshine_ i got some and they seemed to do the job
[16:55:58] <MrSunshine_> Tom_itx, hmm ok .. cause they were realy cheap =)
[16:56:10] <MrSunshine_> bought some from cnc-plus.de and they worked amazing in alu
[16:56:50] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/cnc/pendant/pendant2.jpg
[16:56:53] <Tom_itx> did that with em
[16:57:17] <pcw_home> There are also bsplines and an experimental nurbs implementation (which seem to be not used much)
[16:57:47] <PetefromTn> heya trying to upgrade to latest master and apt-get is complainging about libmodbus5 dependancy not met
[16:58:01] <Tom_itx> install it
[16:58:21] <Tom_itx> use the package manager to install it
[16:58:25] <Tom_itx> or try to
[16:58:44] <PetefromTn> duh. apt-get install libmodbus5 doesn't find it..
[16:58:58] <PetefromTn> btw, this is Connor on Pete's laptop
[16:58:59] <Tom_itx> apt-get update too
[16:59:18] <Tom_itx> i figured
[16:59:37] <Tom_itx> i had to install a couple things but i think i used the package manager for all of it
[17:00:17] <PetefromTn> says package is refrenced, but not found
[17:02:03] <atom1> yep, it's in the synaptic package manager
[17:02:34] <Tom_itx> you probably want the -dev too
[17:04:05] <PetefromTn> i have master-rt
[17:06:09] <pcw_home> ordered one of these to try with linuxcnc (brand new BayTrail based "Atom")
[17:06:11] <pcw_home> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=j1800&N=-1&isNodeId=1
[17:07:11] <PetefromTn> In case it was not clear this is Connor speaking in my name here he is over trying to help me get the machine updated....
[17:11:15] <PetefromTn> I thunk libmodbus5 is missing from buildbot
[17:11:27] <zeeshan> hi PetefromTn
[17:11:32] <zeeshan> er connor
[17:11:42] <zeeshan> linuxcnc-dev is the package
[17:11:43] <PetefromTn> yea.. it's me.. Connor
[17:11:58] <zeeshan> libmodbus-dev is the other one
[17:12:07] <PetefromTn> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ModbusToHal
[17:12:14] <PetefromTn> basicly what I've done..
[17:12:20] <PetefromTn> libmodbus not fount
[17:12:30] <zeeshan> libmodbus5
[17:12:32] <zeeshan> i think thats an old name
[17:12:35] <zeeshan> you need libmodbus-dev
[17:12:42] <zeeshan> which has those libraries included in it
[17:14:32] <PetefromTn> Its saying can't find that package
[17:15:16] <zeeshan> maybe his apt-get repositories arent updated?
[17:15:19] <zeeshan> is this 10.04?
[17:15:29] <PetefromTn> yes it is...
[17:15:50] <PetefromTn> We have done apt-get update as well..
[17:16:04] <zeeshan> okay do what the other guy said
[17:16:09] <zeeshan> synpatic package manager
[17:16:13] <zeeshan> and search "modbus"
[17:16:15] <zeeshan> it should show up
[17:16:46] <zeeshan> apt-cache search modbus
[17:16:48] <zeeshan> does that show anything
[17:17:38] <PetefromTn> not it is not in either of those..
[17:17:42] <zeeshan> wtf!!
[17:18:03] <zeeshan> lemme fire up the other computer
[17:20:09] <zeeshan> shows up for me
[17:20:12] <zeeshan> when i search modbus..
[17:20:44] <PetefromTn> Okay that means the packaging list is out of date and we need to figure out how to update it any suggestions?
[17:24:37] <zee-Lathe> the only thing i can think off
[17:24:42] <zee-Lathe> is the source list is off.
[17:24:52] <zee-Lathe> cause apt-get update shoulda updated the repository list
[17:25:56] <zee-Lathe> http://pastebin.com/7GnLtLr4
[17:26:14] <zee-Lathe> thats my /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:26:40] <zee-Lathe> make a backup of his list? :)
[17:26:43] <zee-Lathe> and use that?!
[17:33:59] <PetefromTn> Ours does not look anything like that....
[17:34:17] <zeeshan> lol
[17:34:24] <zeeshan> theres really no harm in using that
[17:34:27] <JT-Shop> pcw_home, you have a card that works in the PCI Express x1 slot?
[17:34:40] <zeeshan> you'll be downloading it off canadian series
[17:34:40] <zeeshan> thats all.
[17:34:44] <zeeshan> apt-get update after using that list
[17:34:50] <zeeshan> and see if you can find libmodbus-dev now
[17:34:59] <zeeshan> *series = servers
[17:37:10] <PetefromTn> Okay we are grabbing all the package sources has Libmodbus-dev.
[17:38:01] <zeeshan> do you guys have a rs485 to rs232 converter already?
[17:39:19] <PetefromTn> Unfortunately not yet we are just trying to get LinuxCNC updated today and now that we have installed the RJ45 ethernet permanent plug into the side of the pendant we can link over from Connors house and take care of the rest of that stuff once we get it.
[17:39:50] <zeeshan> if you want a cheap one that works without any power
[17:40:23] <PetefromTn> okay, updated..
[17:40:25] <zeeshan> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-9-PIN-RS-232-to-RS-485-Adapter-Interface-Converter-/190539776031
[17:40:30] <zeeshan> thats the one im using pete
[17:40:36] <zeeshan> chinese special :)
[17:41:18] <PetefromTn> now linuxcnc is complaing about hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0.enc0 does not exist
[17:42:27] <zeeshan> i have zero idea about mesa cards =[
[17:47:01] <PetefromTn> pcw_home: You around?
[17:59:10] <pcw_home> "now linuxcnc is complaing about hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0.enc0 does not exist"
[17:59:11] <pcw_home> What changed? this is a MPG encoder on the 7I77 field I/O
[18:00:32] <pcw_home> so depends on field power
[18:05:40] <PetefromTn> looks like we had to ad .count to the end of the pin
[18:06:05] <PetefromTn> has more paramaters than or slight change?
[18:16:23] <pcw_home> probably something with master
[18:24:37] <PetefromTn> Okay guys we are all updated to the latest version of master here. Thanks again to COnnor for coming over. I am working on his Rotab mounting plate here now so he can get his mill spindle pullies machined.
[18:24:47] <PetefromTn> I do have one issue tho and he had to leave just now.
[18:26:04] <PetefromTn> Before the update when I adjusted the feedrate override down it would also affect the Rapid feedrate as well. this was comforting to me to be able to arrest rapid movement when running virgin code. Now it rapids at max rapid regardless of the feedrate override setting. Is this a change and is there a way to put it back?
[18:26:29] <Tom_itx> mine sees my old configs
[18:27:31] <PetefromTn> Oh the old configs are all there my homing and limits and tool table is setup right again so that is good I was worried about that but the overrides are only working on cut feedrates...
[18:27:46] <Tom_itx> not sure
[18:29:22] <PetefromTn> Is that a setting somewhere I can change?
[18:29:34] <Tom_itx> probably in the ini
[18:34:33] <PetefromTn> Don't see anything jumping out at me about that in there...
[18:34:59] <PetefromTn> Is it possible to add this somewhere?
[18:38:05] <PetefromTn> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?G0_Feedrate_Override Found this here. Not sure if it applies or not...
[18:46:33] <Tom_itx> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/ini_config.html
[18:46:41] <Tom_itx> check section 2.2
[19:00:41] <PetefromTn> Yeah I don't see anything that can be adjusted there to accomplish this.
[19:02:35] <Tom_itx> so you got master installed now?
[19:04:25] <PetefromTn> yeah well we got it updated...
[19:07:25] <cmorley> PeteFromTn: In master feedoverride only affects feed not rapids. Use max velocity override to control rapids (or hook then together maybe)
[19:09:38] <PetefromTn> That link I just posted spoke of adding another slider to allow adjust of Rapids in addition to feedrates. Personally having them tied together was preferrable because I only had to worry about one slider to take care of it all...
[19:10:41] <cmorley> with HAL magic you can connect them. or just use the max velocity override instead of feed override
[19:12:41] <PetefromTn> Any clues on how to connect them in Hal. I am going to look at that avenue to fix the issue for me at least temporarily..
[19:13:24] <cmorley> him well yousing maxvelocity only doesn't allow to you raise the feed override above 100 %...
[19:13:38] <cmorley> not off hand i don't have an example
[19:15:27] <PetefromTn> Honestly it is a shame you cannot have both options... somehow. I can see the beauty of only having a feedrate override and a rapid override as well as tying them together in one slider.
[19:18:07] <cmorley> well you can - it requires HAL code :)
[19:18:26] <PetefromTn> :(
[19:18:46] <cmorley> It;s unfortunate that max-velocity override from HALui is not by percentage - that woulda made it much easier..
[19:19:38] <PetefromTn> Is it possible to add a rapid override slider to the axis GUI without a GladVCP component?
[19:22:22] <cmorley> there is no rapid override option just max velocity which is different. Axis already has max velocity
[19:24:29] <PetefromTn> Then in that case I would prefer to just return it to the previous action via tying the feedrate override to the rapid speed however that is accomplished.
[19:25:22] <cmorley> do you use the AXIS slider or do you use an MPG to adjust feedrate?
[19:27:15] <cmorley> If you use the AXIS slide then this will be difficult. AXIS doesn't give much options.
[19:28:38] <cmorley> The problem (In my mind) is that you must scale the maxvelocity override so that when feed is 0 so is maxvelocity and when feed is 100% maxvelocity is at the max too. if they were both percentage scales it would be easy.
[19:29:38] <PetefromTn> I use the axis slider was not even aware you could use the MPG...
[19:30:13] <cmorley> MPG or rotary switches or screen controls are all possible
[19:30:25] <cmorley> or joystick I guess too
[19:31:07] <PetefromTn> Eventually I fully intend to acquire a nice pendant with MPG with all the bells and whistles to do much of the heavy lifting here but for now I am using the Industrial waterproof keyboard I bought for this purpose.
[19:32:41] <cmorley> I prefer the rotary switch but thats what I got used to...I'm sorry i don't have time to help you further..if noone else handles it I will look into it again when I find time. see ya
[19:33:12] <PetefromTn> okay thanks.
[19:38:48] <Justin__> hello.
[19:39:04] <Justin__> I have a pretty simple question as it relates to a computer to control a cnc machine
[19:39:39] <Justin__> If i could get a laptop that worked to control it with a parallel port(older laptop), would that be a lot better than having a big desktop and a monitor out in the shop?
[19:40:07] <archivist> laptops have problems
[19:41:26] <archivist> try the latency test on the live cd on proposed motherboards
[19:43:04] <Justin__> i don't have it yet, but was curious about it
[19:43:12] <Justin__> i've heard they've had problems too, just looking around forums and stuff
[19:43:19] <Justin__> but the one I have my eye on is a dell d600
[19:43:29] <Justin__> which I saw somebody said they work fine, googled it, and other people have said the same
[19:44:12] <Justin__> I can get it for $39 with power cord shipped, not a horrible deal even if it didn't work with a router, i could always sell it off for $50 or so probably
[19:44:53] <Justin__> was also just wondering, if i could get a laptop to work, would that be much better than a desktop rig?
[19:45:07] <Justin__> just size, and having 1 less power cord, etc?
[19:48:06] <PetefromTn> I would just get a very small format desktop instead and a nice monitor. I am using an Atom board and it is built into the machine.
[19:49:01] <archivist> laptop needs power, pc needs power I dont see any improvement in mains cables
[19:49:21] <Justin__> well, my thought was just to have 1 power cable instead of 2 with desktop also(monitor&tower)
[19:49:23] <PetefromTn> There are many cheap boards that work well with LinuxCNC you can buy brand new.
[19:49:56] <Justin__> i went into the bedroom closet to get my old desktop out today and forgot i had thrown it away
[19:50:03] <Justin__> i do have a 19" flatscreen still up there though
[19:50:22] <archivist> often you need physical protection due to chips flying about so the motherboard would be placed in a secure case
[19:50:50] <Justin__> hmm, good point
[19:51:11] <Justin__> petefromtn like a mini-itx format, something that small, or just a mini tower type of rig
[19:52:15] <PetefromTn> Either one whichever meets your needs and space requirements. I had a Mini ITX setup on my last machine and like I said built the MB into the pendant enclosure on my current machine. Both worked fine.
[20:17:38] <uw> i missed this video https://event.webcasts.com/starthere.jsp?ei=1027465
[20:17:45] <uw> did anybody watch it or record it?
[20:23:25] <zeeshan-MILL> another computer in action
[20:24:43] <zeeshan-MILL> http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p252/turbozee84/F0F365FE-4155-4C2C-A0C7-A4230E97672A_zpsqhdrmmaq.jpg
[20:26:22] <tjtr33> uw, just register & watch ( i just did and it comes up fine )
[20:39:15] <tjtr33> if you're using a screen recorder: be aware they change rez ( the selected area is not static )
[20:49:18] <Justin__> alright, just ordered the solsylva 25 x 25 plans
[20:49:29] <Justin__> time to get into it
[20:50:55] <uw> thanks tjtr33
[20:51:03] <uw> i wasnt sure if it was a 1 times hot
[20:51:04] <uw> shot
[21:03:13] <tjtr33> uw its a lot of advert for the sponsor, then advert for nasa, then a bit of laser/gas welding ( 110ac) but requires patent licensing (muhahahaha )
[21:34:22] <skunkworks> zeeshan: atleast hook a ground up.. http://s130.photobucket.com/user/turbozee84/media/0C741973-2146-4253-8467-C0C3F76547C9_zpsvvfhznjr.jpg.html
[21:34:24] <skunkworks> :)
[21:34:34] <zeeshan> haha
[21:35:00] <zeeshan> ghetto power tapping
[21:35:01] <zeeshan> :D
[21:36:53] <skunkworks> zeeshan: you have a dsm?
[21:37:15] <zeeshan> i have a 2003 mitsubishi eclipse
[21:37:15] <zeeshan> my daily driver
[21:37:16] <zeeshan> far from a dsm haha
[21:37:24] <zeeshan> but i have a twin turbo v8 rx7
[21:37:35] <skunkworks> sorry - old school... I had a stealth TT
[21:37:37] <zeeshan> you're going through the old pics?
[21:37:38] <zeeshan> ;p
[21:37:43] <zeeshan> oo those are nice
[21:37:47] <zeeshan> 6g72 engine right
[21:37:54] <skunkworks> if I remember right
[21:38:02] <skunkworks> it has been a few years
[21:38:10] <zeeshan> hehe
[21:56:29] <Connor_iPad> Yo
[21:56:44] <pcw_home> The module version is just a byte but I would say minor revisions are in LS nibble and major in MS nibble
[21:57:40] <Connor_iPad> So, we upgraded Petefromtn version to most recent master.
[21:58:07] <pcw_home> oops
[21:58:56] <Connor_iPad> Everything went okay after I figured out the one little issue with the encoder 0 on the 7i77.
[21:59:57] <Connor_iPad> But, he said that before, the feed over ride affected the G0 speeds and homing speed.
[22:00:35] <Connor_iPad> Was anything changed at so that feed override affects rapids?
[22:03:41] <skunkworks> I think in master - FO doesn't change the rapids.. I don't know if there is a ini settting to change that or not.
[22:04:38] <Connor_iPad> He was running a older version of master. And he said it did.
[22:05:31] <skunkworks> sure - it is recent...
[22:05:53] <skunkworks> cmorley changed it. There was a thread on the list about it.
[22:06:18] <Connor_iPad> Hmm. Why?
[22:06:33] <Connor_iPad> Errr. Why ws
[22:06:38] <Connor_iPad> Was it changed?
[22:07:39] <cmorley> because feedrate override is for feed rates not rapids.
[22:08:20] <cmorley> when running a production program changing the feedrate should not affect the rate of rapids
[22:08:42] <cmorley> because that affects cycle time.
[22:09:33] <cmorley> also now one can do things such as have feedrate override and max velocity override coupled in only certain sistuations (like in single block)
[22:09:48] <Connor_iPad> Okay. Understood.
[22:10:19] <cmorley> sorry if I sounded over bearing :)
[22:10:25] <Connor_iPad> So. What do you mean in single block? And is there a way to return it to old behavior?
[22:11:13] <cmorley> you could with HAL code. But using AXIS 's screen controls may make that difficult....
[22:11:20] <pcw_home> why would you change the rapids speed? chicken mode?
[22:11:39] <cmorley> usually to prove a new program
[22:11:49] <cmorley> so yes :)
[22:12:07] <Connor_iPad> That's the exact reason.
[22:12:22] <cmorley> its what max velocity is for
[22:12:31] <cmorley> or can be used for
[22:13:09] <pcw_home> is that a pin? (so can be changed dynamically)
[22:13:25] <cmorley> halui has a pin available
[22:13:48] <cmorley> unfortunately maxvelocity is in machine velocity units not percentage
[22:14:30] <cmorley> so a conversion is need to couple them or at least that what i think must be done but maybe some one is smarter..
[22:16:07] <skunkworks> I use max velocity the moste
[22:16:10] <skunkworks> most
[22:16:38] <Connor_iPad> He was just a bit freaked out because of the change.
[22:17:06] <skunkworks> he should use max velocity.. (for testing..)
[22:17:57] <Connor_iPad> I don't remember seeing max velocity on his interface. But. I was in a hurry to pack my stuff,up the head out
[22:21:40] <Connor_iPad> Oh. And my modification that forced his machine into inches vs mm was in the .axisrc file.