#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-01-20

[02:30:05] <Deejay> moin
[05:51:16] <tom_R2E3> Hi
[05:52:38] <tom_R2E3> i'm using the analogue 5 output of mesa 7i77 to signal velocity to a siemens VFD
[05:53:28] <tom_R2E3> in CW motion this works fine. If I watch the pin in HAL config it counts positive and the voltage increases (between 0-10v)
[05:53:59] <tom_R2E3> when CCW (M4) the pin counts negative and outputs no voltage
[05:54:30] <tom_R2E3> is there anyway to set this so that it's always an absolute value?
[05:55:52] <archivist> you can use the abs comp
[06:18:40] <tom_R2E3> OK, i'll have a look at that, thank you
[07:21:59] <R2E4> archivist: Is there a way for a classicladder to represent an input into mux4?
[07:22:54] <archivist> dunno , not used classicladder myself
[07:23:04] <Tom_itx> then there's lut5
[07:26:05] <R2E4> I am using mux4, lut5 is the same logic basically as mux4 I think. I need an two outputs in classicladder to feed the two inputs of mux4 (sel0, sel1).
[07:26:13] <jthornton> did you mean to ask can you connect a classicladder output to a mux4 input in hal?
[07:26:33] <R2E4> yes.
[07:26:47] <jthornton> net signal-name pin pin
[07:26:56] <Tom_itx> jthornton, can i link a jpg to a html?
[07:27:10] <jthornton> in asciidoc?
[07:27:12] <R2E4> I tried that.....
[07:27:13] <Tom_itx> yes
[07:27:21] <R2E4> I'll checkk again.
[07:27:22] <jthornton> I don't see why not
[07:27:37] <jthornton> R2E4, did you use a classicladder output?
[07:27:59] <R2E4> yes, classicladder.0.out-04
[07:28:45] <jthornton> should work then
[07:29:41] <R2E4> I got it working with inputs from the 7177, but because the docs show the mpg example with mux4 using maintained switches, and that is ok except my mpg has n/o buttons for each axis and scale.
[07:30:03] <Tom_itx> jthornton, i just want a smaller image to link to the full size one
[07:30:11] <jthornton> so your making a latching circuit in classicladder?
[07:30:29] <R2E4> I did the logic in classicladder and it works, just have to figure out how to get classicladder out into sel0 and sel1. Thanks jt, I'll try that again.
[07:30:53] <jthornton> Tom_itx, I do that on my machinery photo pages
[07:31:06] <Tom_itx> ok, i'll look later today
[07:31:31] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/shop/gantry/gantry.xhtml
[07:32:21] <Tom_itx> was that done with asciidoc though?
[07:32:57] <jthornton> no, but I think it is similar to make an image link in asciidoc
[07:33:44] <jthornton> http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/userguide.html
[07:35:59] <skunkworks> http://www.yaskawa.com/site/dmservo.nsf/link2/TKUR-5EJQ5Z/$file/TSE-C717-13E.pdf
[07:36:09] <skunkworks> those look simple enough...
[07:36:25] <jthornton> http://powerman.name/doc/asciidoc
[07:36:55] <jthornton> Tom_itx, image:/images/font/640-screen2.gif[
[07:36:55] <jthornton> "My screenshot",width=128,
[07:36:55] <jthornton> link="/images/font/640-screen2.gif"]
[07:37:14] <Tom_itx> thanks
[07:39:51] <skunkworks> http://imagebin.org/287781
[07:40:54] <jthornton> that yours?
[07:41:07] <skunkworks> dad just picjed it up
[07:41:15] <skunkworks> picked
[07:41:28] <jthornton> nice
[07:43:19] <archivist> eta for linuxcnc on it?
[07:43:39] <skunkworks> depends on if it powers up...
[07:44:47] * skunkworks hopes it doesn't ;)
[07:59:24] <alex_joni> skunkworks: carefull, your dad reads the archive ;)
[07:59:28] <alex_joni> hi sam's dad
[08:00:10] <R2E4> http://irmtl.com/LinuxCNC/ladder12.pdf
[08:01:17] <R2E4> inputs are momentary select buttons
[08:04:31] <R2E4> the second rung does nothing. I can remove it.
[08:10:35] <skunkworks> heh
[08:54:07] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20140120-personalized-popsicles-with-the-icepop-generator.html
[08:56:17] <archivist> but...but...its milling
[08:56:58] <CaptHindsight> it's amazing how they can write an entire article without mentioning that
[08:57:32] <CaptHindsight> they got as close as "CNC machine"
[09:03:48] <CaptHindsight> another group planning to mix fibers with a binder/glue and spray it on a mannequin mold http://3dprintingindustry.com/2014/01/20/electroloom-promises-3d-printed-clothing-years-end/
[09:24:20] <skunkworks_> cradek, what was your spindle drive? Do you remember? And what was wrong with it?
[09:24:38] <skunkworks_> this is a YASKAWA 626MT II
[09:25:01] <Jymmm> skunkworks_: Is that a 2 or 4 stroke engine?
[09:25:25] <skunkworks_> Jymmm, yes
[09:25:32] <skunkworks_> I mean - no
[09:25:35] <Jymmm> =)
[09:26:50] <skunkworks_> looks like it does the spindle orient.
[09:31:08] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KEkSfgHJNk Polar Vortex Behind U.S. Big Chill Explained - JPL
[09:36:37] <Jymmm> interesting
[09:49:37] <cradek> skunkworks_: that number sounds familiar
[09:51:44] <skunkworks_> cradek, yours is a bit newer though - wasn't it? Like brushless servos?
[09:51:57] <skunkworks_> does it have resolvers?
[09:52:15] <skunkworks_> this is late 80's brushed servos.
[09:52:23] <cradek> no they're dc brush servos
[09:52:26] <skunkworks_> oh
[09:52:32] <skunkworks_> resolvers?
[09:52:47] <cradek> encoders on the servos, a huge resolver on the spindle
[09:52:54] <skunkworks_> ah - cool
[09:53:06] <skunkworks_> the resolver you could not get to work - correct?
[09:53:25] <skunkworks_> with jonE's converter
[09:53:29] <cradek> right, I replaced it with an encoder
[09:54:00] <skunkworks_> do you remember what the drives where?
[09:54:42] <cradek> I gave the resolver to Jon E because he was interested in making it work, but I don't know if he succeeded
[09:55:20] <cradek> no, but I'd recognize then in a police line-up
[09:55:49] <skunkworks_> http://imagebin.org/287800
[09:56:19] <skunkworks_> they may be a gen older..
[09:56:37] <cradek> that's them
[09:56:42] <skunkworks_> oh - cool
[09:57:23] <cradek> seems like it's the same machine
[09:57:50] <cradek> except you have an umbrella
[09:57:53] <skunkworks_> heh - you had a mechanical spindle orient though - right? This I think has a prox sensor of some kind
[09:58:03] <skunkworks_> I think
[09:58:05] <cradek> yes it has a plunger
[09:58:23] <skunkworks_> I think the drive does the orient
[09:59:07] <skunkworks_> neat - so if need be - the conversion probably will be pretty strait forward..
[09:59:50] <cradek> yeah. an umbrella used to be hard, but not so much now with remap.
[10:00:28] <skunkworks_> I don't know if the spindle has to move - or if the emprella does - it has a huge cylinder at the middle of the umprella...
[10:00:39] <cradek> ah
[10:00:48] <skunkworks_> wow - how many ways can I spell umbrella
[10:01:00] <cradek> bumpeller
[10:04:19] <skunkworks_> cradek, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjufknDZioU
[10:04:57] <skunkworks_> the very end - looks like the chain goes up and down. (looks very similar - notice the large air cylinder in the center top of the umbrella
[10:06:40] <skunkworks_> (I think he forgot to turn the air on ;) )
[10:06:55] <CaptHindsight> skunkworks_: does it use pneumatics vs hydraulics?
[10:07:04] <skunkworks_> pneumatics
[10:07:39] <CaptHindsight> the 710 is hydraulic
[10:07:45] <skunkworks_> really - neat
[10:08:09] <skunkworks_> (the K&T is all hydraulic
[10:08:26] <CaptHindsight> yeah, I didn't know that they even used pneumatics for Matsuura's
[10:09:24] <skunkworks_> you can hear the air in the video
[10:09:35] <CaptHindsight> how did the conversion go for that other old cnc? forget the name off hand, from the 70's, local purchase
[10:09:43] <CaptHindsight> skunkworks_: ^^
[10:10:18] <skunkworks_> it is still sitting... (that one is going to require more work.. that will prbably be after the matsurra..
[10:10:36] <CaptHindsight> whats that brand again?
[10:10:40] <skunkworks_> acroloc
[10:10:55] <CaptHindsight> yeah
[10:11:22] <skunkworks_> cradek, so - you could adjust the servo amps tach input to use +/-10 volts from mesa?
[10:11:51] <skunkworks_> CaptHindsight, that one has even less standard tooling than the bt35 :)
[10:11:52] <cradek> skunkworks_: that toolchange looks very easy...
[10:11:59] <skunkworks_> cradek, yes
[10:12:22] <cradek> yes I did on one. I may have replaced parts though.
[10:12:26] <CaptHindsight> can its spindle be changed to support cat30? without real major work?
[10:12:34] <skunkworks_> no clue..
[10:12:59] <skunkworks_> it looks like ebay has a lot of bt35 tooling
[10:13:16] <skunkworks_> the acroloc has what looks like hockey puck tooling
[10:17:42] <CaptHindsight> yeah, I had no problem finding bt35 or bt40 new and used for low prices
[10:18:15] <CaptHindsight> Shars carries about everything BTxx
[10:19:17] <CaptHindsight> just be sure to check the angle on the pull studs
[10:19:34] <skunkworks_> right - we can make pull studs also
[10:19:37] <CaptHindsight> every catalog had different info the 710v
[10:20:11] <skunkworks_> the specs on the pull stud shape is in the manual
[10:20:18] <cradek> I bought all new pullstuds from maritool
[10:21:47] <skunkworks_> I have options!
[10:23:04] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/251424801936 this will probably end up ~$10K by the end, oh well
[10:23:25] <skunkworks_> did you look at the unworkind haas last week?
[10:23:48] <CaptHindsight> never made it, too busy
[10:24:07] <skunkworks_> that was in kenosha too wasn;t it?
[10:24:08] <CaptHindsight> plus the price is climbing now
[10:24:16] <CaptHindsight> yeah, not far
[10:24:54] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-cincinnati-arrow-500-cnc-vmc-a2100-touch-screen-/221356720299?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3389e380ab
[10:25:06] <CaptHindsight> isn't this what pete from tenn has?
[10:25:32] <skunkworks_> close.. I don't remember exactly
[10:26:00] <skunkworks_> he replaced everthing on his.. (servo, drives and vfd..)
[10:28:42] <CaptHindsight> I need a machine with >24" X travel and I'd like a >10K rpm spindle
[10:30:27] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/321166655199 but it's up in Canada
[10:32:24] <jdh> going up there sucks, they are all too nice and friendly
[10:32:36] <jdh> well, except for quebec.
[10:43:44] <CaptHindsight> spindle speed is 8K rpm max on the Tree 840
[10:44:25] <CaptHindsight> but it needs a new one anyway, I wonder what else might be adapted without too much work?
[10:45:02] <CaptHindsight> heave to check with spindle's-r-us
[10:47:13] <archivist> there is another supplier...meckityerself
[10:48:06] <CaptHindsight> sounds middle eastern :)
[10:50:16] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/TREE-VMC-1000-CNC-VERTICAL-MILL-SPINDLE-R233CND5P1-24-INCH-CAT-40-BT40-CT40-/161154897931
[10:52:42] <archivist> "just stripped" does that translate as was scrap so we over charge for the parts
[10:59:56] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HSD-ES915-3-8KW-5-hp-24000rpm-220-380v-ISO30-ATC-CNC-Spindle-PACKAGE-/121254664239?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c3b57582f
[11:04:10] <CaptHindsight> archivist: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Big-Kaiser-high-spindle-speed-increaser-20-000rpm-gtg6-cnc-mill-milling-/171198373886?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27dc37dffe
[11:05:36] <CaptHindsight> via planetary gears or?
[11:08:45] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/221347788937 ASYNCHRONOUS SERVO 18HP 9k rpm
[11:11:14] <archivist> probably planetary gears
[11:30:02] <Loetmichel> re @ home
[11:31:40] <jdh> whuttup homie
[11:49:16] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[11:58:21] <IchGuckLive> jdh: germans are now at home !
[11:58:28] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KEkSfgHJNk heading your way?
[11:59:31] <Loetmichel> CaptHindsight: not this week
[11:59:34] <Loetmichel> maybe next ;-)
[12:00:22] <IchGuckLive> i think at our hight here we het some this night
[12:01:22] <IchGuckLive> jesu in spain is at head now he mailed me
[12:01:37] <CaptHindsight> 0c now back down to -20c again tonight
[12:01:40] <IchGuckLive> and einar is deep frozen in the north
[12:03:57] <CaptHindsight> what's everyone using for Mesa PCIe if you don't have room for perpendicular cards?
[12:04:36] <IchGuckLive> someone shoudt have pointet the valen gay this morning to our wiki about xboy controller to get his information
[12:05:08] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: 5i20
[12:05:35] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: why not 5i25 7i7x for best performance
[12:06:28] <CaptHindsight> trying to use my extra 7i47's
[12:07:34] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: do you have 90 deg PCIe adapter hiding somewhere on the site?
[12:08:21] <pcw_home> No but they a a fairly common thing
[12:08:42] <CaptHindsight> just checking before I call in an order
[12:09:04] <pcw_home> a customer wanst us to make a minpcie-->cabled pcie adapter so wee will have one shortly
[12:09:10] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: delok riser 90deg 15USD
[12:09:43] <IchGuckLive> 89105
[12:11:50] <CaptHindsight> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71UrzTmz1lL._SL1500_.jpg I'd prefer to locate the FPGA card over the MB vs to the side
[12:13:44] <IchGuckLive> there you go with the delock 89105
[12:15:03] <CaptHindsight> that will put it off to the side
[12:15:34] <IchGuckLive> then you need a pcie expand cable
[12:16:20] <CaptHindsight> http://www.delock.com/produkte/F_374_Riser-Karten_89186/merkmale.html
[12:17:57] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: X16 or
[12:18:03] <IchGuckLive> hi PetefromTn
[12:18:23] <PetefromTn>
[12:18:31] <CaptHindsight> 6i68 is only 1x
[12:18:35] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: 41342 is the higher one
[12:19:16] <PetefromTn> Hey ich..
[12:20:18] <Deejay> hi Pete from Tennessee
[12:21:06] <PetefromTn> Deejay: Hey man nice to meet ya!
[12:21:42] <Deejay> :-)
[12:22:37] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: is the a PCIe to 50 pin anything IO for the 7i47's?
[12:22:38] <PetefromTn> Anyone making anything coooool with LinuxCNC today??!!
[12:23:02] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: besides the 6i68?
[12:23:19] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: what ity is the board you posted
[12:23:27] <pcw_home> not ATM but soon the 6I24
[12:24:07] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: how about by this Wednesday?
[12:24:24] <PetefromTn> How do you get to the log for todays IRC chats?
[12:24:39] <IchGuckLive> http://psha.org.ru/irc/
[12:25:09] * Deejay feels being watched
[12:25:26] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: ASRock E350M1 http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=E350M1
[12:26:25] <IchGuckLive> what latency you got or only fpga
[12:28:46] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: it has coreboot support, so power on to login <2 seconds, latency <10uS
[12:29:22] <CaptHindsight> for get how low, maybe ~4-5uS
[12:29:22] <IchGuckLive> thanks
[12:30:41] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: with coreboot you tweak the chipset registers at compile time, it replaces the BIOS
[12:31:21] <IchGuckLive> you are booting on SSD
[12:32:22] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: yes or with kernel in the flash where BIOS is typically stored
[12:34:22] <CaptHindsight> so you config a custom kernel that fits into the SPI flash, if you want you can kexec (jump) to another later
[12:36:22] <CaptHindsight> linux on the cubieboard is a mess, we'll fix it all but it's going to be several days
[12:37:16] <CaptHindsight> RT kernel isn't so bad but the toolchains and distro images are a mess
[12:38:31] <pcw_home> not terribly surprising
[12:38:49] <CaptHindsight> we had to find out
[12:39:45] <CaptHindsight> but the board runs so well it's definitely worth supporting
[12:41:30] <pcw_home> I wonder is the SPI interface is standard ARM inc IP (many seem the same or very similar)
[12:42:38] <CaptHindsight> no! heh
[12:42:56] <CaptHindsight> that is the problem with ARM
[12:43:25] <CaptHindsight> the location as well as the SPI controller will be different
[12:44:03] <CaptHindsight> as bad as x86 is they at least standardized the locations for ports
[12:44:59] <CaptHindsight> but the same silicon vendor will often reuse the peripheral ip on SOC's
[12:45:24] <pcw_home> location /clock tree sure but the register hardware seems to be similar an a couple Ive looked at
[12:45:31] <CaptHindsight> so the driver for the SPI on the A20 will not be that different from the A80
[12:46:39] <pcw_home> but it might be ARM supplied IP so may be widespread
[12:48:47] <CaptHindsight> if forget with allwinner, their multimedia IP is their own tied to Mail and now PowerVR for the A20
[12:50:15] <pcw_home> I thought the A20 was MALI as well (but A31 was PowerVR)
[12:50:44] <CaptHindsight> sorry meant A80 for powervr
[12:50:56] <pcw_home> Yeah (and yuck)
[12:51:25] <skunkworks_> cradek, are the 4 semiconductors on the left of the board - the power stage?
[12:51:26] <skunkworks_> http://imagebin.org/287800
[12:53:33] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: whats the height of the 6i25 mounted in a MB?
[12:55:19] <skunkworks_> there must be something bigger under the boards....
[12:56:03] <CaptHindsight> maybe I'll just use that and 7i76
[12:56:30] <pcw_home> I would expect the 4 transistor to be pre-drivers
[12:56:42] <skunkworks_> pcw_home, they seem small :)
[12:56:47] <pcw_home> 6I25 is a lop profile card
[12:56:57] <pcw_home> low
[12:57:24] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: recall the approx dimension? ~2"
[12:57:53] <pcw_home> Not sure what the standard is maybe 2.5"
[12:58:27] <CaptHindsight> that'll work, I'd have to modify the heatsinks anyway
[12:58:51] <CaptHindsight> skunkworks_: what year is that design from? approx
[12:59:24] <skunkworks_> I don't know exactly - I think late 80's
[13:00:19] <pcw_home> maybe all bipolar transistors so hefty base drivers are needed
[13:01:00] <pcw_home> (fanuc stuff of that era is like that, giant bipolar transistor modules 16 usec dead times)
[13:01:29] <skunkworks_> there is a board under it.. Just didn;t look at it that close
[13:01:30] <CaptHindsight> date codes look like '84 and maybe '91
[13:02:32] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: so 6i25 + 7i76 to control a few steppers and some IO?
[13:03:14] <CaptHindsight> 6i25LP
[13:07:12] <skunkworks_> I was a little freaked out about all the plugs going into it - but most of them go the the bottom board...
[13:08:01] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: 5i25
[13:08:35] <CaptHindsight> thats PCI
[13:08:54] <pcw_home> if you dont need a lot of 12/24V I/O you probably dont need the 7I76
[13:09:45] <CaptHindsight> what else gets you step/dir?
[13:09:50] <pcw_home> skunkworks: looks like a standard analog drive
[13:10:04] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: 7i76E
[13:10:12] <pcw_home> you can get step/dir right out of the 6i25
[13:10:34] <skunkworks_> pcw_home, yes - sounds like it is what is in cradeks mori jr...
[13:10:36] <CaptHindsight> I better read the manula
[13:10:44] <CaptHindsight> or the manual
[13:10:49] <pcw_home> the 7I76 just gives you buffered and differential step/dir
[13:11:20] <CaptHindsight> need some IO as well
[13:11:23] <pcw_home> if you want 4 buffered step/dir and 4 encoders you can use the cheaper 7I85S
[13:11:56] <pcw_home> if 5V I/O is OK, you can use the 17 GPIO bits on the second connector
[13:12:38] <CaptHindsight> it's all in the same enclosure, just small nema 23 or 17's and some buttons and switches
[13:12:46] <pcw_home> (second 6i25 connector)
[13:13:52] <CaptHindsight> 7i76 gets me more to play with for now, I can optimize later
[13:14:22] <IchGuckLive> i use the 7i76 now as standard
[13:14:51] <IchGuckLive> playing around on 15feet cables
[13:14:55] <CaptHindsight> probably use the cubie for production, this is just for proto
[13:15:21] <pcw_home> the 7I76 I/O is safer from misshaps
[13:15:31] <IchGuckLive> proto why not standard parport
[13:16:25] <IchGuckLive> parport is 5 Steppers and 5 inputs
[13:16:42] <zeeshan|2> hi IchGuckLive
[13:16:45] <zeeshan|2> im here now for a few
[13:16:46] <zeeshan|2> :P
[13:16:49] <IchGuckLive> enoph for a plasma THC toolprobe and homelimits
[13:16:56] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: not enough, plus then I need to go from PCIe to EPP
[13:17:09] <zeeshan|2> why is thc tool probe so important
[13:17:13] <zeeshan|2> my plasma machine has pilot arc
[13:17:28] <zeeshan|2> and i never cut corrugated sheet metal
[13:17:43] <zeeshan|2> i never understood the purpose of adding a Z axis ;p
[13:18:16] <IchGuckLive> i got differnt sheets at most of the time and i got the port so i use tool probe to touch off the tool at first to get the sheethight
[13:19:05] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: this isn't a mill, it's a SLA-like printer
[13:19:27] <zeeshan|2> ahh
[13:19:32] <zeeshan|2> im a hobbyist
[13:19:37] <zeeshan|2> i can set the tool height for different sheets
[13:19:38] <zeeshan|2> :)
[13:19:38] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: so you can get lower precision and therfor faster moves on the parport
[13:19:41] <zeeshan|2> manually!
[13:19:44] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: 0,254
[13:19:57] <IchGuckLive> one step
[13:20:11] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: but not enough IO, I'm interfacing with some other controls
[13:20:23] <IchGuckLive> this moves you at 450in/min and 600in/s²
[13:20:52] <CaptHindsight> EPP doesn't have enough IO for me
[13:21:48] <IchGuckLive> up to you
[13:22:11] <CaptHindsight> make sense for a plotter or mill
[13:22:16] <IchGuckLive> foe a standard ISO mashine its enoph as there are 2000 sold every day now world wide
[13:24:13] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: are there IO boards that use the 6i25 header vs the DB conn?
[13:24:36] <CaptHindsight> <-- still needs a decoder ring
[13:26:53] <IchGuckLive> decoder ring on 4 or 8
[13:28:29] <CaptHindsight> I'd like a 7i76 with a header vs db conn
[13:31:18] <pcw_home> we dont have any daughterboard with headers
[13:31:20] <pcw_home> (dont want to encourage people to use long flat cables as we depend on the IEEE-1284 wiring for signal integrity)
[13:31:57] <CaptHindsight> only going 4 inches
[13:32:31] <CaptHindsight> but I understand, most are going from once case to another as well
[13:32:40] <pcw_home> Yep
[13:32:50] <CaptHindsight> and we already have 6i25's
[13:33:17] <CaptHindsight> so I can just custom cable 6i25 to a 7i47s
[13:33:33] <pcw_home> you can just use a flat cable with IDC DB25 on one end and header26 on the other
[13:34:25] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: http://www.cncmakers.com/cnc/controllers/Tool_Post_Turret/Inductive_Sensors_For_Tool_Posts.html
[13:34:41] <IchGuckLive> 25USD one pice
[13:34:47] <IchGuckLive> im off BYE
[13:35:06] <einar> I have set MAX_VELOCITY to 100 in .INI file. Axis says Max Velocity 7200 mm/min!? Where did that come from?
[13:36:27] <owhite> Hello people - does anyone know if there has been a fix for the issue of the glade editor not finding gladevcp? A description is here http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=31823982 and there are other users asking around.
[13:39:11] <CaptHindsight> found a 7i77 as well
[13:44:00] <CaptHindsight> and it ends up all the distro images and kernels for the cubie were using the wrong FP settings
[14:40:35] <tjtr33> yowzeh hominy axis is this thing? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HFXO_qx5ZY
[14:44:38] <skunkworks_> wow - that must be like wathcing paint dry
[15:13:36] <MarkusBec> hallo is there anybody with a running mashinekit installation on a Beaglebone black?
[15:14:28] <MarkusBec> i have tried it on my beaglebone but the CPU clocks only with 36x mhz after booting the image from the SD card
[15:56:51] <cradek> owhite: is this a bug in 2.5 or master? running buildbot debs, or rip?
[15:57:16] <cradek> owhite: never mind, why don't I read the message
[15:58:23] <cradek> must be master (since you mention gmoccapy) and buildbot debs
[15:59:12] <cradek> I don't know the answer, but if you file a bug on sourceforge (it could just point to this message which is a very good report) I'll make it a 2.6 blocker
[15:59:58] <owhite> cradek - sorry didnt spot this til now.
[16:01:20] <owhite> so if you look at the thing I posted to emc-users a while ago http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=31823982
[16:01:31] <owhite> one thing i mention is that this was a kernal install.
[16:02:03] <cradek> I don't understand what you mean
[16:02:22] <owhite> take a look at this - this is how I installed linuxcnc:
[16:02:23] <owhite> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxCNC_On_Ubuntu_Precise
[16:02:33] <cradek> yes I did
[16:02:57] <owhite> so maybe using your language, I used buildbot debs.
[16:02:58] <cradek> that has instructions for both master-rt and v2.5_branch-rt
[16:03:05] <owhite> oh.
[16:03:09] <cradek> yep
[16:03:19] <cradek> I assume you chose master since you mentioned gmoccapy
[16:03:28] <owhite> ok.
[16:03:35] <cradek> did Philipp's suggestion not work?
[16:03:51] <owhite> nope. I tried several versions, didnt fix anything.
[16:04:07] <owhite> and found other cases of people complaining of same thing and versions did not fix.
[16:04:53] <cradek> it would be great if you would file a bug report saying the things you tried, and I'll make it a 2.6 blocker so it will get attention before the branch. I am not sure what else I can do.
[16:05:16] <cradek> I am not really sure who knows this area :-/
[16:05:55] <owhite> thanks. Are there docs for filing a bug report? Havent done that before. Yeah honestly I think gladevcp seemed interesting but right now I'm going with pyvcp just because its more expedient.
[16:06:56] <cradek> the tracker is here: http://sourceforge.net/p/emc/bugs/
[16:07:32] <cradek> hm, looks like you have to have a sourceforge account to file one. do you have one?
[16:07:57] <owhite> i do, yes.
[16:08:15] <cradek> after you sign in you'll see a "create ticket" button appear there
[16:08:55] <cradek> brb
[16:09:31] <owhite> okay - what types of information should I shout out so it's useful the developers?
[16:21:11] <cradek> owhite: just a link to your original report, and add that you were using the master buildbot debs, and say what you tried that didn't fix it
[16:22:07] <Deejay> gn8
[16:38:01] <cradek> it was 70 degrees yesterday and now it's snowing.
[17:05:32] <cradek> skunkworks: no -- under the pcb is transistors the size of a fist
[17:05:37] <cradek> well a baby fist at least
[17:11:05] <Tom_itx> heh, cradek where is that?
[17:11:22] <Tom_itx> rather mild here today
[17:11:33] <cradek> Nebraska USA
[17:11:58] <cradek> I really needed a warm day to do some car repairs - it was great.
[17:11:59] <Tom_itx> mmm that means it'll probably drift south soon
[17:46:26] <skunkworks> cradek: figured after looking at a few on ebay.. Lots of wires go under the circuit board...
[17:47:20] <JT-Shop> we will have a couple more nice days ~40F
[17:48:55] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT5xeO7ZCfw&feature=youtu.be
[17:49:40] <JT-Shop> what is it?
[17:49:51] <skunkworks> mach4 tapping...
[17:49:52] <atom1> JT-Shop, http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/emc/xilinx/xilinx14_install_body_.htmlhttp://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/emc/xilinx/xilinx14_install_body_.html
[17:49:59] <atom1> woops
[17:50:13] <atom1> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/emc/xilinx/xilinx14_install_body_.html
[17:58:40] <JT-Shop> atom1, Not Found
[17:59:17] <JT-Shop> the format looks familiar on that page
[17:59:28] <atom1> i'm still editing
[17:59:34] <atom1> did it load ok?
[17:59:44] <JT-Shop> oh nice clickable thumbs
[17:59:49] <JT-Shop> the second link did
[18:00:06] <atom1> there's still a couple broken links
[18:00:16] <JT-Shop> looking good!
[18:00:42] <atom1> looks more uniform
[18:00:58] <JT-Shop> I see some <br> tags int he top vhd files
[18:01:05] <atom1> i'm not surprised
[18:01:09] <JT-Shop> lol
[18:01:23] <atom1> i just wanted to see if it loaded ok from the server
[18:01:26] <JT-Shop> a listing block is
[18:01:28] <atom1> i've been loading it locally
[18:01:29] <JT-Shop> ----
[18:01:32] <JT-Shop> the block
[18:01:34] <JT-Shop> ----
[18:01:41] <atom1> for which?
[18:01:48] <JT-Shop> Top905...
[18:02:04] <atom1> yeah i tried that one too
[18:02:08] <atom1> may switch back
[18:10:00] <atom1> JT-Shop, you like the 'block' look better?
[18:10:31] <JT-Shop> for monospaced text yes
[18:12:26] <atom1> i think the links work now
[18:13:01] <JT-Shop> I don't think you can have links in a listing block
[18:13:16] <atom1> oh, i wasn't trying it there
[18:15:29] * JT-Shop wanders inside to couch potato for a few hours
[18:19:04] <JT-Shop> but first a photo of what I was working on today http://imagebin.org/287884
[18:20:19] <PetefromTn> You built a bridge in your shop?
[18:21:07] <JT-Shop> we are wiring it up
[18:21:27] <JT-Shop> the thing in the middle of the roof is full of lights
[18:21:31] <PetefromTn> aah...nice
[18:22:17] <Tom_itx> is that the entry way to your castle?
[18:22:20] <JT-Shop> it is real pretty
[18:22:34] <JT-Shop> that's the entry to Eagle Sky a youth camp
[18:23:08] <JT-Shop> http://www.eaglesky.com/eso/
[18:53:23] <tjb1> Looks warm
[21:12:41] <default_> hey, i've recently been having problems with my g540 system using a rack and pinion
[21:13:39] <default_> for some reason, at very low feed rates, it seems like any individual axis will not respond to a manual command until up to a few hundredths of an inch later
[21:13:49] <Tom_itx> logger[mah]
[21:13:49] <logger[mah]> Tom_itx: Log stored at http://linuxcnc.mah.priv.at/irc/%23linuxcnc/2014-01-21.html
[21:14:08] <default_> I don't believe it is mechanical backlash, because this will occur when a sequence of moves in the same direction is taken
[21:14:32] <default_> this also occurs when the motor is off of the machine
[21:14:47] <default_> so I believe it may be entirely on emc's end
[21:14:50] <Tom_itx> pcw_home, i updated the bitfile pages to look more 'doc' friendly: http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/emc/xilinx/xilinx92_install_index.php
[21:14:53] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/emc/xilinx/xilinx14_install_index.php
[21:15:31] <Nostoc> does anyone have any insight to this problem?
[21:15:41] <Nostoc> or knowledge about how EMC performs with regards to microstepping?
[21:20:53] <skunkworks> Nostoc: explain your problem like - 'manual command'
[21:21:09] <Nostoc> i'm not sure what you mean
[21:21:19] <Nostoc> I could try and simplify my explanation further
[21:23:08] <Nostoc> i'm using a micrometer to verify if the MDI commands are working properly; i'm doing this by issuing a command like g1 x0.5 f1 and seeing if the micrometer moves 0.5"
[21:24:43] <Nostoc> unfortunately, the instrument doesn't move 0.5" when I command it to; there seems to be an error with the distance, the error appears to be random, and it appears to be pronounced at lower feeds
[21:25:23] <Nostoc> To try and isolate the problem, I then removed the motor from the instrument, and tested it without any load on it
[21:26:02] <Nostoc> It appears as though the motor shaft doesn't start moving until EMC has registered between 0 and 0.3" of movement