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[02:12:35] <Deejay> moin
[02:26:48] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[02:55:05] <uw> moin Deejay Loetmichel
[02:55:29] <uw> friday
[02:58:04] <Deejay> hi uw
[02:59:56] <uw> any new cnc projects Deejay ?
[03:00:09] <Deejay> nope
[03:00:17] <uw> :/
[03:00:54] <Deejay> just milled a simple carrier board for mounting a pcb inside a box yesterday. nothing interessting ;)
[03:01:34] <Deejay> and you?
[03:03:06] <uw> oh, well that is good! and here i thought you said nothing new :D
[03:03:35] <uw> nothing new, i've been doing a lot of modeling for people, no actual cnc work
[03:04:12] <uw> the next thing i need to make i need to take somewhere, as my machine isn't big enough for it
[03:04:43] <Deejay> hmm
[03:05:46] <Deejay> alrighty then, i will populate a PCB now. afk, cya later :)
[03:05:55] <uw> bye
[04:36:08] <MrSunshine> what formats to use to be sure that there arent incompatible with different software ? dxf seems like a PITA .. hows DWG ? something that is standardized and not like DXF that seems to be shot from the hip :P
[05:00:12] <archivist_herron> most "standards" around cad are not that good, if you can export to a native format you may be better off
[05:27:23] <jthornton> DXF is a Drawing Exchange Format created by ACAD
[05:50:23] <archivist_herron> I had to write a dxf fix program due to the silly floating point errors and lines not connecting, the local laser company had trouble importing before I fixed the dxf files
[05:53:52] <jthornton> yea, a lot of programs don't follow the dxf standard well
[06:22:23] <CHNCguy> Hey Guys ;)
[06:22:53] <CHNCguy> Anyone rebuild a CHNC collet closer?
[06:23:04] <CHNCguy> JT-Shop?
[07:06:27] <Tom_itx> MrSunshine, i used IGES quite a bit
[07:51:38] <jthornton> dang he didn't stay long
[07:52:11] <skunkworks> he will be back.. they always come back...
[07:58:42] <ReadError> *insert evil laugh*
[08:42:07] * JT-Shop starts a small fire
[08:46:02] <projektx> hi, i have a problem with my meanwell SPV-300-48 , if i connect it to my 3d-step cnc card it blinks on all axes, and wont work, do i have to control it trough the PV or RC connectors ?
[08:46:17] <projektx> or is it broken ?
[08:47:55] <archivist> meanwell SPV-300-48 is a power supply?
[08:48:04] <projektx> yes
[08:48:28] <archivist> just test it with a voltmeter
[08:49:05] <projektx> ... need one .. :)
[08:49:41] <archivist> essential tool for anyone making stuff :)
[08:50:14] <archivist> but if the leds blink the psu must be doing something
[08:50:39] <JT-Shop> get a chinlee one for a couple bucks if you just need to test for approximate voltages
[08:51:44] <JT-Shop> http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Volt-Meter-Voltmeter-Multimeter/dp/B001RSREKI/ref=sr_1_2?s=lamps-light&ie=UTF8&qid=1389969304&sr=1-2&keywords=multimeters
[08:51:52] <JT-Shop> well 3 bucks
[08:58:17] <projektx> 1.8 to 3.5 Volts (if my vmeter isnt broken)whats with these PV and RC connectors ?
[08:59:21] <archivist> on what?
[08:59:42] <projektx> power supply
[09:00:29] <archivist> why are you blaming or looking at the power supply, and, have you read its manual
[09:02:54] <heathmanc> Finally, able to use my mill with the 4i69
[09:04:29] <heathmanc> skipped using pncconf since the files weren't working and just stole my hal from the machine with the 5i20 and renamed some thing.. good as old
[09:16:55] <JT-Shop> heathmanc, what are you converting to?
[09:17:38] <heathmanc> just a single board computer with a pci104 connector, trying to make things a little more compact
[09:17:50] <heathmanc> this is overkill, for a taig mill..
[09:18:00] <heathmanc> 3 allen bradley ultra3000 and 270watt servos
[09:19:44] <archivist> downright murder, get a real mill :)
[09:22:31] <JT-Shop> dang that is a lot for a taig
[09:23:22] <CaptHindsight> heathmanc: did you pay under $1k for all the drives and servos?
[09:23:27] <heathmanc> I know, I am stationed in england and don't have a ton of room
[09:23:32] <heathmanc> yes
[09:23:40] <CaptHindsight> so why not use them
[09:23:49] <heathmanc> i am using them
[09:23:54] <heathmanc> got the firmware issue taken care of
[09:24:14] <CaptHindsight> were you able to update the firmware?
[09:24:16] <archivist> another brit :)
[09:24:22] <heathmanc> lol, i'm not a brit
[09:24:30] <heathmanc> I am american, just stationed here
[09:24:47] <CaptHindsight> a spy?
[09:24:48] <archivist> ah, over paid and over here :)
[09:24:53] <heathmanc> couldn't get the firmware files, scrounged two more drives
[09:25:05] <heathmanc> helicopter crew chief
[09:25:24] <heathmanc> so, now have 5 ultra3000 drives lying around
[09:26:52] <heathmanc> and trying to figure out how to wire this 7i37com card
[09:26:53] <CaptHindsight> maybe use them for a servo controlled gimbal on a camera under the chopper :)
[09:27:30] <heathmanc> i'm afraid they are just going to sit around until i find something to do with them
[09:28:05] <CaptHindsight> yeah, they probably don't let you mount your own gear
[09:29:26] <CaptHindsight> heathmanc: do you have the version with the terminal blocks on the 7i37?
[09:29:47] <heathmanc> yes, i have a 7i37ta and a 7i37com
[09:30:03] <heathmanc> i have a feeling the 7i37com was a mistake.. I am trying to wire up a touch probe
[09:32:45] <CaptHindsight> what's the difference between the -ta and the com?
[09:33:03] <CaptHindsight> besides the connectors?
[09:33:24] <heathmanc> the ta and the com have pluggable terminals
[09:34:49] <heathmanc> but the com has common input reference and a common output power source
[09:39:19] <CaptHindsight> the 7i37com has optos on the inputs, can you use 4-24V to supply the touchprobe through a suitable resistor and monitor the probe?
[09:40:08] <heathmanc> not sure
[09:40:22] <heathmanc> it's just a touch place, not a real probe
[09:40:35] <CaptHindsight> connect an input to the probe side of the resistor, when the probe goes to ground the voltage will drop to 0
[09:41:22] <CaptHindsight> a probe is usually just insulated conductor from the machine
[09:41:35] <heathmanc> right, and this is insulated
[09:41:37] <CaptHindsight> whats your "touch place"?
[09:41:51] <heathmanc> just copper pcb single sided
[09:42:52] <CaptHindsight> so you have a probe insulated from the machine? and you gave a conductive surface (the copper pcb)?
[09:43:02] <CaptHindsight> gave/have
[09:43:07] <heathmanc> yes
[09:43:26] <heathmanc> just clamp an alligator clip on the bit
[09:43:36] <heathmanc> i had it working with the 7i37ta
[09:43:49] <heathmanc> but i am trying to eliminate some wiring
[09:44:00] <CaptHindsight> so you're touch probe complete the circuit when it touches the copper trace/foil side
[09:44:07] <CaptHindsight> you're/your
[09:44:11] <heathmanc> yes
[09:44:17] <CaptHindsight> sorry no coffee yet
[09:45:51] <CaptHindsight> you can wire the pcb to ground and then use a pull up resistor from power (4-24V) to the probe
[09:46:33] <CaptHindsight> then run the probe side of the resistor to an input, when the input is low the probe has made contact with the pcb, when high it has not
[09:46:51] <heathmanc> or the other way around wouldn't it be
[09:47:04] <heathmanc> the "probe" is the tool bit
[09:47:17] <CaptHindsight> no, since the input is on the probe side of the resistor
[09:47:50] <CaptHindsight> the probe should be insulted from the machine
[09:48:02] <heathmanc> the pcb is
[09:48:08] <CaptHindsight> or the probes tip to be more exact
[09:48:25] <heathmanc> there lies the problem..
[09:48:48] <CaptHindsight> but you can connect a wire to the copper side of the pcb
[09:48:58] <heathmanc> yes
[09:49:05] <CaptHindsight> so ground it
[09:49:32] <CaptHindsight> if your probe is not insulted from the machine you can do this the other way around
[09:49:47] <heathmanc> right, it has to be the other way around
[09:50:01] <CaptHindsight> power (4-24V) through a resistor to the pcb foil
[09:50:18] <CaptHindsight> pcb foil to an input of the 7i37
[09:51:58] <CaptHindsight> the foil will be current limited by the resistor and be high (4-24V) until the probe (ground) touches it
[10:00:24] <CaptHindsight> heathmanc: you must find good deals on AB controllers there
[10:01:16] <CaptHindsight> I see ultra3000 -005's for >$250 and -010's for $300+
[10:01:40] <CaptHindsight> and those are 10 years old
[10:02:26] <CaptHindsight> I like them for the 1V p-p analog encoder inputs
[10:05:42] <CaptHindsight> can't tell if it's a linear motor or if they used a screw or belt behind the linear bearings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3s_qJSPMeU
[10:06:17] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hhnXFmdUHQ another angle
[10:08:01] <CaptHindsight> I don't see any magnets on the bearing side of the positioner
[10:15:29] <R2E4_> Mornin....
[10:17:37] <R2E4_> IS there an xml for the 7i84?
[10:21:20] <jthornton> for pncconf?
[10:24:48] <R2E4_> yeah, I powered up my 7i84 card, doesnt show up in pin list, and in pncconf doesnt show up.
[10:25:13] <R2E4_> The green light is flashing.
[10:25:31] <jthornton> just use a 7i77 or 7i76 for the second card in pncconf I think
[10:25:42] <jthornton> and only configure the I/O
[10:28:31] <R2E4_> huh? select a second 7i77 and it will recognize the 7i84?
[10:28:59] <pcw_home> if the green light is flashing, you have pins
[10:29:14] <pcw_home> halcmd show pin
[10:29:44] <R2E4_> I did, and no pins, let mecheck again.
[10:31:30] <jthornton> did you pick 7i76x2?
[10:32:05] <R2E4_> no
[10:32:30] <jthornton> the second card won't show up unless you pick x2
[10:32:55] <R2E4_> The pins are there, there hidden under hm2_5i25.0.7i84.... lol
[10:33:54] <R2E4_> The green light is flashing so it did see it automagically. Guess its in the firmware, no need to program it.
[10:34:32] <R2E4_> The pins just automagically showed up.... Thats fantastic!!!!
[10:34:48] <jthornton> a 5i25 has the firmware built in
[10:35:06] <jthornton> you do not need anything to configure that
[10:37:00] <pcw_home> the driver probes the remote card for its name and I/O capabilities so it is pretty automatic
[10:37:27] <skunkworks> automagical
[10:39:19] <R2E4_> To add anothr 7i84 card just connect TB6 parralell rs422 and it will find it and give it hm2_5i25.0.7i84.1?
[10:39:55] <pcw_home> You need another RS422 channel
[10:40:10] <pcw_home> (a 7I74 will give you 8 more)
[10:40:20] <pcw_home> (for example)
[10:40:47] <R2E4_> I understand.... TBK, it's nice when things work like they are suppose to.
[10:47:35] <R2E4_> IS there a reason why you went with RS422 instead of rs485? RS485 you can put 32 addresses on one line and give each module an address.
[10:48:01] <R2E4_> speed?
[10:49:09] <pcw_home> Yes and noise
[10:50:20] <pcw_home> radial RS-422 is scalable and I hate daisy chain wiring
[10:52:02] <pcw_home> we can support up to 32 channels at 10 Mb/s/channel
[10:55:35] <skunkworks> andypugh, why would having your table make trapizoidal boxes? Isn't it on top of the x and y axis?
[10:56:15] <archivist> some are in between x and y
[10:56:36] <skunkworks> I would think the box would be square - just not square to the table.
[10:56:40] <skunkworks> ah
[10:56:41] <skunkworks> maybe that is it
[10:57:18] <archivist> if you have a boley jig mill you get y then rotary then another xy on top
[11:02:32] <R2E4_> Ive got no logic happening. I have W1 in the left position closest to the edge of the board and when I apply +24vdc to the input it doesn't change in HAL configuration.
[11:03:38] <R2E4_> W1 gives VIN field power.
[11:04:44] <R2E4_> Do you need two field power sources? one for TB2 and one for TB3?
[11:05:46] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/251424801936 Hardinge VMC-600-II $3,500.00
[11:07:05] <CaptHindsight> I might go look at this later
[11:10:54] <skunkworks> kenosha
[11:11:28] <CaptHindsight> there's also another 710V in NY for $3500 or best
[11:11:55] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291052494279
[11:12:06] <CaptHindsight> more VMC's now then back before xmas
[11:12:57] <skunkworks> new year - dumping old stock/buying new?
[11:14:06] <pcw_home> Yes the 7I84 has 2 field power supplies required (to allow dual voltage systems)
[11:14:14] <CaptHindsight> I notice they come in waves
[11:16:00] <CaptHindsight> 9,700 LBS I wonder if a tiltbed tow truck can handle that?
[11:16:40] <zeeshan|2> one of the main reasons i didnt get a cnc for the garage is
[11:16:49] <zeeshan|2> most cheap cnc's are frigging heavy and huge
[11:17:01] <zeeshan|2> =[
[11:17:11] <CaptHindsight> last time I used a flatbed + crane since they delivered for only $200
[11:17:11] <zeeshan|2> easier to convert a smaller machine :P
[11:17:28] <zeeshan|2> CaptHindsight: thats fine
[11:17:34] <zeeshan|2> how do you move it into the shop/garage then? :P
[11:17:39] <zeeshan|2> without a forklift :P
[11:18:38] <CaptHindsight> my floors are sealed with sodium silicate and epoxy, I can just about drag a 4 ton machine by hand but I use a small walk behind lift to slide things around here
[11:18:42] <skunkworks> archivist: you are right (between x and y)
https://plus.google.com/photos/108164504656404380542/albums/5901688686374813281/5901688698064062130?banner=pwa&pid=5901688698064062130&oid=108164504656404380542
[11:18:53] <zeeshan|2> mine has epoxy on it
[11:19:03] <zeeshan|2> anything above 1000 lb will rip that shit apart :P
[11:19:09] <zeeshan|2> heres some advice!
[11:19:11] <zeeshan|2> http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p252/turbozee84/null_zps53dbde14.jpg
[11:19:22] <CaptHindsight> the sodium silicate (waterglass) is really slippery when wet + soap
[11:19:32] <zeeshan|2> http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p252/turbozee84/null_zps11f5ac38.jpg
[11:19:33] <zeeshan|2> on the very bottom left of the pic
[11:19:43] <zeeshan|2> there is a bottle jack too with a -|_ type of attachement
[11:20:00] <zeeshan|2> that machine weighs like 2500lb
[11:20:01] <CaptHindsight> I have a forklift as well :)
[11:20:05] <zeeshan|2> my gf moved it with her pinky
[11:20:06] <R2E4_> I have field power for TB2 and TB3 connected and I am still getting nothing in HAL configuration...
[11:20:48] <pcw_home> with halmeter?
[11:21:54] <pcw_home> or machine/show configuration/watch?
[11:22:48] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan|2: I just use skates by hand and a small lift
http://imagebin.org/287225
[11:23:00] <R2E4_> Machine show config watch
[11:23:19] <zeeshan|2> aha
[11:23:22] <zeeshan|2> that thing is huge!
[11:23:40] <CaptHindsight> ~8K lbs
[11:23:51] <zeeshan|2> your floors are really nice
[11:24:11] <skunkworks> CaptHindsight, do you still have that?
[11:24:14] <CaptHindsight> a few cracks but not bad
[11:24:29] <CaptHindsight> skunkworks: yes, I haven't had time to finish it
[11:24:37] <skunkworks> heh - what is it?
[11:24:41] <skunkworks> 1000?
[11:24:44] <pcw_home> probably wrong inputs or missing ground
[11:24:47] <CaptHindsight> matsuura 710v
[11:25:12] <pcw_home> very unlikely a 7I84 input does not work
[11:25:19] <skunkworks> does it have chip/coolant guards?
[11:25:45] <CaptHindsight> yes, was just off when I moved it
[11:25:51] <skunkworks> neat
[11:26:14] <R2E4_> very likely I am doing something wrong....hehe\
[11:26:36] <CaptHindsight> I have to make them taller, I still get spray on the floor 6 feet away when cutting with large tools
[11:26:43] <R2E4_> The 7i77 inputs are working though.
[11:27:46] <zeeshan|2> CaptHindsight: you run a machine shop?
[11:27:52] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/370729400325 tempted to get this
[11:28:24] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan|2: no, I just build better toys
[11:29:21] <zeeshan|2> CaptHindsight: done ball screw conversions?
[11:29:27] <R2E4_> Error 12
[11:29:31] <CaptHindsight> building out a shop in China, it's difficult to find old equipment there
[11:29:34] <zeeshan|2> know where i can get ball screw for bridgeport clones?
[11:29:52] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan|2: rockford ballscrew
[11:30:09] <CaptHindsight> also a few vendors on ebay and online
[11:30:17] <zeeshan|2> http://www.rockfordballscrew.com/products/retrofit-kits/clone-mill-kits/
[11:30:21] <zeeshan|2> i saw their website
[11:30:24] <R2E4_> 12 inches from my panel.
[11:30:30] <zeeshan|2> but they don't list "First mill"
[11:30:33] <zeeshan|2> on their website =[
[11:30:35] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan|2: they aren't far from me
[11:30:43] <zeeshan|2> ill email em
[11:30:50] <CaptHindsight> measure what you have and call them
[11:30:56] <zeeshan|2> no!
[11:30:59] <zeeshan|2> i want a kit ready to go
[11:31:16] <zeeshan|2> not have the mill in disassembled state and waiting for them to send me a replacement kit :P
[11:31:19] <R2E4_> My 24vdc connectors I out one teminal inbetween and I connectedmy test probe to that connector instead of the +24.
[11:31:25] <zeeshan|2> basically i want to swap the ball screws within the same day
[11:32:02] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan|2: not sure on the clones, all the clones I've seen are close but not exact fit from Bridgeports
[11:32:36] <CaptHindsight> every part I've ever checked to swap was off by too much to work
[11:32:56] <zeeshan|2> thats exactly what im worried about
[11:33:01] <zeeshan|2> i know the Yoke or whatever you call it
[11:33:05] <zeeshan|2> where the nuts go in
[11:33:10] <zeeshan|2> is different
[11:33:30] <zeeshan|2> im hoping somebody has already ordered some ball screws for this mill and they'll have dimensions =D
[11:34:58] <jdh> got your lathe X done?
[11:35:11] <zeeshan|2> jdh: no
[11:35:20] <zeeshan|2> im still making the 3 hp motor mounts for it
[11:35:55] <CaptHindsight> I'd like to find a press brake like this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261354336799
[11:36:21] <zeeshan|2> and waiting on vfd
[11:36:25] <zeeshan|2> i do shit in stages so i can use the machine if a job comes on the side
[11:36:25] <zeeshan|2> :)
[11:36:26] <zeeshan|2> the other day i had to make a spacer
[11:36:27] <zeeshan|2> so i just bolted up the 4 bolts for the carriage and just used the rack and pinion to move the Z
[11:36:27] <zeeshan|2> :)
[11:37:07] <jdh> you just did.
[11:37:52] <CaptHindsight> heh, only closer
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VERSON-25-TON-PRESS-BRAKE-/221330039274 like this, but still for sale
[11:37:52] <zeeshan|2> lol
[11:38:00] <zeeshan|2> i wish i had a shop space like you guys
[11:38:07] <zeeshan|2> i have to make use of my 20x20 garage =[
[11:38:32] <CaptHindsight> mine is dirt cheap 6K sq ft
[11:39:10] <CaptHindsight> excess warehouse build-outs from before the crash of '08
[11:39:16] <zeeshan|2> hehe
[11:39:20] <zeeshan|2> did you buy the place
[11:39:24] <zeeshan|2> or rent it out
[11:39:44] <CaptHindsight> rent for a few year before i go
[11:42:10] <zeeshan|2> my dad's got this empty land that he's doing nothing with
[11:42:15] <zeeshan|2> i was thinking of putting up a metal building there
[11:42:31] <zeeshan|2> the only problem is its 50 minutes from my house
[11:42:34] <CaptHindsight> concrete pad one weekend
[11:42:38] <zeeshan|2> and that's a hell of a drive to go work on stuff :)
[11:42:59] <CaptHindsight> thats like 4 miles during rush our
[11:43:06] <zeeshan|2> haha
[11:43:09] <CaptHindsight> our/hour
[11:43:10] <zeeshan|2> its about 50 miles
[11:43:57] <zeeshan|2> we'll see. right now all the major machines are in the garage and they fit fine :P
[11:44:24] <CaptHindsight> I'm running out of power here 208/200A 3p
[11:45:05] <CaptHindsight> wish they had run 480 instead
[11:45:10] <zeeshan|2> they actually deliver 208 3ph?
[11:45:16] <zeeshan|2> i thought it was only 480
[11:45:20] <zeeshan|2> or 600V
[11:45:29] <CaptHindsight> yeah, pretty common now
[11:45:45] <zeeshan|2> pretty much all my stuff had a vfd
[11:45:52] <zeeshan|2> 230v 1ph to 3ph
[11:45:53] <zeeshan|2> :)
[11:45:53] <CaptHindsight> I think they figured warehouse vs industrial
[11:46:07] <zeeshan|2> even 208 means most of your industrial machines need a motor change
[11:46:20] <zeeshan|2> cause they're usually 480v or 575V
[11:46:37] <CaptHindsight> and no AC in the warehouse, only in the 4K sq ft offices
[11:47:30] <CaptHindsight> it's only bad on 90F + days and want to concentrate
[11:47:55] <zeeshan|2> you sir
[11:47:58] <zeeshan|2> need 1hp fans
[11:48:04] <zeeshan|2> =D
[11:48:15] <CaptHindsight> i just run hot, I have them
[11:48:40] <CaptHindsight> fans + dehumidifiers
[11:48:51] <zeeshan|2> http://www.ohio.com/polopoly_fs/1.58146.1308287057!/remoteImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_500/hist1004cut.jpg
[11:48:52] <zeeshan|2> use one of those
[11:48:55] <zeeshan|2> air conditioned suits
[11:48:56] <zeeshan|2> :-)
[11:49:05] <CaptHindsight> 5 ton AC unit maybe next
[11:49:06] <zeeshan|2> its anti-radiation too!
[11:49:38] <CaptHindsight> I started making one last year
[11:50:06] <CaptHindsight> ends up packing those chill bags into a vest work well
[11:50:15] <CaptHindsight> just change them every 2 hours
[11:51:00] <CaptHindsight> http://www.glaciertek.com/default.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1 like these
[11:51:02] <zeeshan|2> http://thekevinchen.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/mclarens-air-conditioned-race-suits/
[11:51:02] <zeeshan|2> wow
[11:51:05] <zeeshan|2> mclaren made some
[11:51:21] <zeeshan|2> oh nice!
[11:52:22] <zeeshan|2> ah so it jut uses a special material thats stays cold
[11:52:30] <zeeshan|2> i thought it was using something like peltiers
[11:52:38] <CaptHindsight> what they use in gel packs for colling
[11:52:41] <CaptHindsight> cooling
[11:53:05] <CaptHindsight> somebody here made a fur suit with peltiers
[11:53:13] <zeeshan|2> http://www.fastcodesign.com/1662859/nanotech-clothing-warms-in-winter-cools-in-summer
[11:53:18] <zeeshan|2> this guy already built one using peltiers
[11:54:41] <CaptHindsight> you never know around here, one summer it barely gets into the 80's the next it's 90's half the time
[11:55:01] <zeeshan|2> yea its pretty mild up here in ontario
[11:55:08] <zeeshan|2> just winters can get brutal
[11:55:23] <CaptHindsight> this winter is nuts
[11:55:30] <zeeshan|2> my coolant 50/50 mix
[11:55:34] <zeeshan|2> actually froze up!
[11:55:38] <CaptHindsight> back to -10C today, was +10 2 days ago
[11:55:39] <zeeshan|2> during that polar vertex event
[11:55:56] <zeeshan|2> its mighta been more like 45/55
[11:56:08] <zeeshan|2> had chunks of ice in it
[11:56:19] <CaptHindsight> yeah I even went back to 5w in the vehicles
[11:57:15] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan|2: I finds lots of used cnc's in the MI, Oh area
[11:57:38] <CaptHindsight> but I bet they would charge customs on the border crossing
[11:59:39] <R2E4_> They allways ask way more for machines up here in Canada. Sometimnes you can find good deals.
[12:00:11] <CaptHindsight> the shop in China is +10 C in winter and up to 42C in summer
[12:00:13] <skunkworks> like an r2e4?
[12:00:33] <CaptHindsight> have to get the space suits or AC there
[12:00:38] <R2E4_> yes but oyu only pay customson what you paid for iut. If you could get a receipt for 500, you would only pay like 50.00 or so.
[12:01:23] <R2E4_> Well, I got my R2E4 for cheap, I actually cut a job on my cnc router for it.
[12:01:53] <CaptHindsight> I'd buy a peltier suit if the coolers are replaceable
[12:02:03] <R2E4_> I just converted it to 220 single phase, put a VFD on it and everything worked.
[12:02:23] <CaptHindsight> losing a few pounds would also help :/
[12:07:41] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/140810782163 were these accurate enough to use the twin spindles to make one part seamlessly?
[12:09:21] <CaptHindsight> probably accurate enough but did the travel overlap each spindle to extend the X?
[12:12:13] <CaptHindsight> I was going to drive from Detroit to London, ON to install equipment and they were going to charge customs for the tools even though they were coming back with me
[12:12:30] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:15:33] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: did you make the peltier suit/costume? or was that someone else?
[12:16:47] <IchGuckLive> im not
[12:21:19] <zeeshan|2> CaptHindsight: you're lucky youre in usa
[12:21:25] <zeeshan|2> you guys have a lot more stuff there :)
[12:21:44] <zeeshan|2> CaptHindsight: smuggle some machines up for me and r2e4? :)
[12:21:53] <IchGuckLive> zeeshan|2: we got more electronics and main Stuff supplyer here in europ
[12:22:01] <CaptHindsight> depends on your perspective I guess
[12:22:09] <zeeshan|2> IchGuckLive: guess what we get in canada?
[12:22:15] <zeeshan|2> we're the number one supplier of canadian geese.
[12:22:30] <zeeshan|2> that like to take down airplanes
[12:23:33] <zeeshan|2> anyone wanna trade an eaton 0.5hp brand new vfd 110v 1ph in to 220v 3ph out for a 1hp one of the same specs + ill give $ :)
[12:25:16] <IchGuckLive> quite a activ day as i read the logs for today
[12:26:01] <zeeshan|2> this is the best channel on irc
[12:26:02] <zeeshan|2> that's why
[12:26:12] <zeeshan|2> its all about MACHINES!
[12:27:18] <IchGuckLive> someone shoudt have told the people today that are building a 3D scanner that the 50USD kinnect just plugs in the pc and scanns with the deep field sensors very good modells
[12:27:21] <R2E4_> We need more machines for sale up here.
[12:27:41] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan|2:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sharnoa-SDC-20-Tigre-4-Tiger-4-CNC-machining-center-/181301150531?pt=US_Heavy_Equipment&hash=item2a36640343
[12:27:48] <CaptHindsight> not too far from you
[12:28:06] <IchGuckLive> R2E4 there where 25.000 freesculped ex1 sold alone since xmas
[12:28:11] <zeeshan|2> CaptHindsight: for things im doing im just converting my first mill to cnc :P
[12:28:23] <zeeshan|2> it just needs some ball screws, steppers and a controller :P
