#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-12-09

[02:11:51] <Deejay> moin
[04:41:05] <flughafen> hi
[05:53:49] <MacGalempsy_> morning
[06:04:07] <archivist> moaning
[06:09:39] <MacGalempsy_> its that bad aye?
[06:10:27] <archivist> I was just testing here and a power supply expired with a bang
[06:11:34] <flughafen> hi archivist
[06:12:02] <archivist> it did not like the bench vibration from a stepper motor I was abusing
[06:13:05] * archivist sez allo
[06:14:49] <MacGalempsy_> ouch
[06:14:54] <MacGalempsy_> any harm?
[06:15:22] <archivist> to the psu yes, to the stepper drive thankfully no
[06:15:41] <archivist> but it was free issue, not something I had to pay for
[06:16:19] <MacGalempsy_> free is always good. what kind of torture did you perform?
[06:17:38] <archivist> was testing for mechanical resonance and missed steps, lots of noise and bench vibration
[06:18:36] <archivist> for some applications steppers are not very good
[06:19:46] <MacGalempsy_> well, my work shift has ended. time to go to bed. gn
[08:54:57] <Jymmm> pcw_home: We're up to 33F now!!!
[09:03:13] <skunkworks> heat wave here!!!
[09:03:51] <Jymmm> skunkworks: ?
[09:04:29] <skunkworks> it is 10f here..
[09:04:53] <Jymmm> ouch
[09:06:02] <cradek> -3
[09:06:19] <skunkworks> yeck
[09:06:21] <cradek> and my car sat all weekend... but it started!
[09:06:34] <skunkworks> isn't current car tech nice?
[09:06:41] <cradek> yep it sure is
[09:07:03] <Jymmm> WX has been so weird the last 15 years or so... You'll need a parka and shorts all on the same day in a few years
[09:07:45] <Jymmm> cradek: What's a carburator?
[09:08:09] <skunkworks> heh - there is a guy here that would rather have carbs.. I think he is crazy..
[09:08:12] <`Nerobro> Jymmm, a bread making machine
[09:08:14] <cradek> Jymmm: that doesn't exist, but carburetors do
[09:09:28] <cradek> skunkworks: then he should get one!
[09:10:01] <skunkworks> he does.. his winter car is a 65ish ford falcon
[09:10:58] <cradek> cool, more power to him, he must like working on it
[09:13:01] <skunkworks> yes
[09:16:40] <CaptHindsight> I used to only own and drive 73 and older with no problems until they got to be too rare to want to have them out in snow
[09:20:38] <CaptHindsight> lots of shops getting rid of VMC's and CNC lathes on ebay for under $7k if anyone is shopping
[09:22:07] <jdh> all the ones I've seen for sale are in god-foresaken parts of the country like california, kansas, etc.
[09:22:42] <archivist> or over here 261344980360
[09:23:33] <archivist> seems to be the season for good iron
[09:23:36] <CaptHindsight> there were a few in Ohio, IL and the northeast
[09:24:22] <archivist> a series II 301028747050
[09:26:33] <CaptHindsight> 131063043436 Mazak VTC 16C but will probably end up closer to 10K
[09:31:53] <CaptHindsight> 251298239674 Kitako 4-Spindle 2-Axis Lathe ?
[09:38:54] <CaptHindsight> 131063036021 HARDINGE QUEST 51
[09:39:17] <archivist> CaptHindsight, the ultimate would be the Wickman multi spindles which are now in cnc form too
[09:41:16] <CaptHindsight> archivist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpI3ydcqEkQ
[09:41:46] <CaptHindsight> archivist: I can't tell if the Kitako operates similar from the pics
[09:42:04] <archivist> it is difficult to see I agree
[09:43:12] <archivist> there is an interesting beast on youtube that is center spindle and turns both ends at the same time
[09:46:59] <CaptHindsight> 370729400325 never heard of JONES & LAMSON, but it looks like a lot of machine for $2950
[09:54:41] <archivist> both ends http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjOfNrYKaI4
[09:56:23] <CaptHindsight> I missed one similar that was only a few years old, dead and only ~$2K
[10:20:26] <jdh> anyone ever seen one of the chinese 3020 routers in person? Could they do reasonable PC board milling?
[10:43:21] <CaptHindsight> jdh: http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/cnc-router sells similar...
[10:44:03] <CaptHindsight> they are all hit or miss for QC, he travels back to China 4 times a year to review quality with the suppliers
[10:44:12] <jdh> yeah, his smallest is bigger than that.
[10:44:45] <CaptHindsight> it all depends on which box of parts makes yours
[10:45:21] <CaptHindsight> it's like US auto manufacturing in the 70's, you didn't want a Monday or Friday made car
[10:46:10] <gonzo_> or the UK car indusrty of the same time. You didn't want ANY car
[10:47:16] <jdh> that's still true.
[10:47:54] <CaptHindsight> I've been to AutomationTechnologies and he's let me sort through a bin to find the parts I wanted
[10:49:01] <CaptHindsight> bearings without detents, straight rails etc etc
[10:49:13] <archivist> Lucas used to get the blame for uk cars electrics problems http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=returns
[10:51:10] <archivist> but if you were plugged into a machine all day, would you produce good work http://www.collection.archivist.info/showresult.php?prog=1&srcprog=searchv13.php&srcdata=title&Type=PS&Accn_no=982&subject=6243
[10:51:21] <CaptHindsight> archivist: are they all made in China now? :)
[10:52:01] <archivist> probably
[10:52:41] <archivist> when they knocked the factory down I got stuff out the technical library, books and slides
[10:53:44] <CaptHindsight> there was a TopGear on one of those factories a few years ago, still had some incomplete cars inside
[10:54:23] <archivist> that was the BL factory
[10:54:48] <archivist> I did go there once
[12:05:44] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:10:12] <flughafen> morgen
[12:10:27] <IchGuckLive> servus
[12:13:11] <flughafen> everything gut by euch
[12:17:11] <IchGuckLive> all clear beside toothache
[12:17:22] <jdh> I have pliers.
[12:17:23] <flughafen> that sucks, you should go to the zahnartz
[13:04:22] <jthornton> Tom_itx, an update to the G code generator http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/files/mill.zip
[13:22:43] <IchGuckLive> jthornton: is there a readme about the g-code gewnerator projekt
[13:32:28] <andypugh> pcw_home: My 8i20 is acting funny, have you any suggestions what this pattern of flashes means? http://youtu.be/-zZh4aNXmF8
[13:34:12] <pcw_home> Is it powered by 5V cable power or 12/24V on the green connector?
[13:38:12] * flughafen just finished building a 37 axis cnc machine
[13:38:19] <tjtr33> ist nicht blinkenleuchts, ist "close encounters"
[13:40:37] <andypugh> Cable power from a 7i76 from a 7i80, with the 7i80 set to supply cable power, and the 7i76 with a 12V field power.
[13:41:10] <pcw_home> Because is looks like either insufficient power (likely with 5V cable power running the 8I20)
[13:41:10] <pcw_home> or a power fault on the isolated side
[13:41:11] <pcw_home> (maybe a gate power short so as soon as the gate power
[13:41:12] <pcw_home> supply starts it pulls down the 5V on the input side)
[13:42:25] <pcw_home> I would run the 8I20 with the 12V on TB1 (W2 down)
[13:42:49] <andypugh> OK
[13:48:47] <andypugh> Yes, that seems like it was the problem.
[13:50:32] <pcw_home> The 8I20 power is marginal when run from 5V cable power (it has to be 5V +- 5%)
[13:50:56] <pcw_home> (well +10% -5%)
[13:51:26] <pcw_home> about 350 mA
[13:56:33] <micges> andypugh: be carefull, nobody tested that setup before :)
[13:57:50] <andypugh> It's working
[13:58:16] <micges> just like that?
[13:59:39] <Tom_itx> pcw_home, do the is_output and is_opendrain invert_output modifiers apply to the 7I84 outputs?
[14:08:10] <pcw_home> No, they are not like GPIO (and are sourcing outputs only)
[14:09:23] <pcw_home> Makes you wish the HAL parser had at least a NOT function built in
[14:11:17] <pcw_home> Some of the newer NCV series chips have the ability to be sourcing,sinking and push-pull all via setup commands
[14:11:47] <andypugh> micges: Yeah :-)
[14:13:15] <micges> andypugh: uber cool!
[14:13:36] <andypugh> Though I think I just killed my bench PSU :-(
[14:13:50] <jdh> it's always something.
[14:14:14] <andypugh> It was a bit feeble anyway, gives me a reason to build a 10A 100V one
[14:14:47] <jdh> build one that goes to 11.
[14:14:48] <Jymmm> andypugh microwave xfmrs =)
[14:15:03] <Jymmm> andypugh: PS/welder =)
[14:15:37] <Jymmm> andypugh: For those "problem" smt components
[14:15:47] <andypugh> I have a 10A variable DC-DC converter: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10A-DC-DC-600W-10-60V-to-12-80V-Boost-Converter-Step-up-Module-Power-Supply-/310705571577
[14:16:22] <Jymmm> you want switching?
[14:18:41] <Jymmm> I always thought it be cool to have a binary xfmr made for a PS
[14:23:34] <andypugh> If you mean what I think you mean, I almost have one
[14:24:32] <andypugh> It has 24V, 2 x12V, 3 x 5V, 3 x 2V + 2 X 1V (or some similar arrangement)
[14:26:37] <Jymmm> Secondaries of 1 2 4 8 16 32 volt that you just switch in/out as needed. Using greycode
[14:27:31] <Jymmm> ...64
[14:28:25] <jthornton> Tom_itx, another update to the G code generator http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/files/mill.zip
[14:28:38] <jthornton> final depth is now working
[14:31:49] <Jymmm> andypugh: 50 of these? lol http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Agilent-HP-Model-6116A-Precision-DC-Power-Supply-0-100V-0-2A-/251375216259?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a87216683
[14:32:26] <kengu> is this a good way to support the dust collector hosehttp://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base_images/zp/supporting_the_dust_collection_hose_3.JPG ?
[14:32:29] <Jymmm> andypugh: Oh man, perfect except for the $$$ http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Agilent-HP-6675A-Power-Supply-120V-18A-2000W-/310794932707?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item485cd251e3
[14:33:39] <andypugh> Yes, that is a little outside my budget.
[14:36:45] <Jymmm> andypugh: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1000-W-Agilent-Hp-6030A-SYSTEM-AUTORANGING-DC-POWER-SUPPLY-0-200-V-0-17-A-/190972444263?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c76d83e67
[14:37:15] <Jymmm> make offer
[14:37:36] <Jymmm> oh, it's in US, nm
[14:39:40] <jdh> you could toast a lot of stuff with taht.
[14:42:01] <Jymmm> lol
[14:43:02] <jdh> little 3 amp, 0-30vdc bench supply. I can fry things well enough with it.
[14:43:59] <Jymmm> Mine is 32A @ 5-15V
[14:44:11] <ReadError> i use a converted ATX
[14:44:20] <ReadError> tons of power on the 12v rail
[14:44:39] <Jymmm> noisey as hell
[14:44:39] <jdh> I've been rebuilding some 24vdc motors, it has been useful for that.
[14:45:50] <jdh> some of the stator housings are keyed so they can't adjust, some aren't.
[14:46:24] <jdh> on the unkeyed ones, I can tweak them between 0.7-1.5Amps and 600-850RPM
[14:54:01] <jdh> anyone know where to obtain replacement brushes 1/8x3/8x1/2"?
[15:01:30] <Tom_itx> jthornton, i'll grab it after bit
[15:08:44] <Tom_itx> i'm not seeing where you added final depth
[15:55:57] <andypugh> micges: http://youtu.be/2HdikHRXnAs
[15:57:53] <micges> that's great!
[16:00:55] <micges> PCW: http://youtu.be/2HdikHRXnAs
[16:03:18] <PCW> Looks promising!
[16:03:19] <PCW> My desktop has occasional long latencies so eventually fails
[16:04:12] <micges> I hope you'll get better results with better mb
[16:04:42] <PCW> Just tried but unfortunately the Preemt_RT kernel does not work with whatever Ethernet chip is on a Intel D525 MB
[16:05:16] <cradek> there's special goo for the rtl8xxx
[16:05:56] <PCW> Yeah a remember it needed something
[16:06:48] <PCW> I remember
[16:28:02] <Deejay> gn8
[17:13:03] <jthornton> Tom_itx, it is an entry on the setup page
[17:15:07] <jthornton> download it again and tell me what version you have now
[17:19:01] <Tom_itx> whichever ver you just posted
[17:19:54] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: I think he's saying he's uploaded TWO different files.
[17:20:02] <Tom_itx> 1.3
[17:20:14] <Tom_itx> but he only gave me one link
[17:20:37] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Yep, one link, two different files. One replaced the other
[17:21:04] <Tom_itx> and as i said, i have the most recent
[17:22:18] <Tom_itx> which will also change before the night is over :D
[17:24:18] <Tom_itx> i still don't see it on the setup page. Tool#, Tool Diameter, RPM, Stepover %, Feed, DOC, Z Safe, Z top, Depth
[17:24:39] <jthornton> 1.5 is what I "just" uploaded
[17:24:55] <jthornton> 1.4 was the latest up to a few minutes ago
[17:25:19] <jthornton> same link, I just overwrite the file
[17:25:34] <jthornton> might be a cashing problem???
[17:26:27] <Tom_itx> i deleted the whole directory and just downloaded the mill.zip
[17:26:31] <Tom_itx> 1.3
[17:27:17] <jthornton> odd, let me check what I'm doing wrong
[17:29:44] <jthornton> 1.5 is what is on the web site
[17:30:17] <Jymmm> HAHA Tom_itx
[17:30:38] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Thats what you get for being so ambiguous!
[17:31:02] <Jymmm> But, jthornton should include a version number in the file name too
[17:31:06] <jthornton> Jymmm, are you on a linux box:?
[17:31:21] <Jymmm> jthornton: I can be
[17:31:24] <Tom_itx> i cleared the cache then downloaded it
[17:31:31] <Tom_itx> still 1.3
[17:32:09] <jthornton> Jymmm, download it and see what you get
[17:32:17] <Jymmm> link?
[17:32:21] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/files/mill.zip
[17:32:30] <Jymmm> and whats the md5 or sha1 ?
[17:32:45] <jthornton> dunno how to do that
[17:32:56] <jthornton> it's just a python file
[17:33:24] <Jymmm> shasum filename
[17:34:29] <jthornton> 8518ee1139e2e24326acf75349b36a2e15f60201 mill.zip
[17:34:30] <Jymmm> $ shasum .bashrc
[17:34:31] <Jymmm> 7886687a7002a75f1379f86f7437498d66c2cc73 .bashrc
[17:34:44] <Tom_itx> rename it mill_15.zip and see if it's my cache
[17:35:05] <jthornton> ok
[17:35:57] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/files/mill1.5.zip
[17:36:15] <Jymmm> $ shasum mill.zip
[17:36:15] <Jymmm> 0b2376645a83fe1efbeb59d755e35470c6c0a5bf mill.zip
[17:36:54] <Jymmm> 8518ee1139e2e24326acf75349b36a2e15f60201 mill1.5.zip
[17:37:04] <Jymmm> they are different files
[17:37:24] <jthornton> 8518ee1139e2e24326acf75349b36a2e15f60201 mill1.5.zip
[17:37:42] <Tom_itx> now i got 1.5
[17:37:46] <jthornton> silly webhost
[17:38:01] <Jymmm> jthornton: nothign to do with them, it's all you baby!
[17:38:15] <jthornton> hows that?
[17:38:23] <Jymmm> jthornton: You didn't change the filename
[17:38:43] <Jymmm> browsers cache all that stuff.
[17:38:55] <jthornton> then it ain't me it is the browser
[17:39:06] <Jymmm> jthornton: The easiest thing to do is just use a timestamp for versioning
[17:39:18] <jthornton> how do you do that
[17:39:25] <Tom_itx> so what good is it to clear the history if it doesn't work?
[17:39:37] <jthornton> exactly my thought
[17:39:43] <Jymmm> jthornton: mill_2013-12-09-1523.zip
[17:40:25] <jthornton> then I have to change the link and build the html then upload all that what a PIA!
[17:40:37] <Jymmm> jthornton: symlink
[17:41:10] <Jymmm> jthornton: Yes, that's the point. if your update borks things, you can go to the previous one
[17:42:11] <Jymmm> You could just link to a directory instead, then upload the files with timestamps there
[17:42:24] <Jymmm> then you wouldn't have to update the thml
[17:42:28] <Jymmm> html*
[17:43:27] <jthornton> how do you link to a directory?
[17:43:42] <Jymmm> http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/files/
[17:43:57] <Jymmm> but you have directory listing disabled on the server it appears.
[17:44:05] <jthornton> Forbidden
[17:44:05] <jthornton> You don't have permission to access /linuxcnc/files/ on this server.
[17:44:11] <Jymmm> but you have directory listing disabled on the server it appears.
[17:45:34] <jthornton> is that something you can enable by directory?
[17:45:52] <Jymmm> sure
[17:46:23] <jthornton> let me ask them how to do it
[17:46:36] <Tom_itx> i do it on mine but mine is local
[17:46:58] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/avr/
[17:47:01] <Jymmm> http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DirectoryListings
[17:47:15] <Tom_itx> chmod
[17:47:50] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: that too
[17:47:57] <jthornton> I'm talking to Bhavya
[17:48:06] <Jymmm> both actually in some cases
[17:57:10] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/files/
[17:57:32] <Jymmm> yep
[17:58:05] <jthornton> ok, we are making progress now
[17:58:06] <jthornton> thanks
[17:58:11] <Jymmm> =)
[17:58:45] <Jymmm> jthornton: I know it seems a pain to add versioning to the file name, but saves a LOT of headaches
[17:59:33] <Jymmm> jthornton: Doing YYYY-MM-DD-HHMMwill list in order too
[17:59:42] <Jymmm> HHMM
[18:00:17] * jthornton goes back to the shop for a while
[18:00:29] <jthornton> Tom_itx, let me know when you test it
[18:00:38] * jthornton goes to look for a motherboard now
[18:00:52] <Jymmm> jthornton: the $30 ones?
[18:03:21] <Tom_itx> mb?
[18:06:40] <Tom_itx> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Desktop-Board-D510MO-Atom-Processor-1GB-RAM-included-D510-Dual-Core-A-/281208756189
[18:07:37] <JT-Shop> I have a 510 with a dead parallel port that I could use
[18:07:55] <JT-Shop> here is an Asus A7A266 wonder what it is
[18:10:51] <JT-Shop> oh nice here is an Asus E45M1-M PRO NIB
[18:15:44] <JT-Shop> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLRyYETnoIE
[18:26:37] <andypugh> JT-Shop: http://www.gnarlyharleys.com/top-10-bike-fails-loading-unloading/
[18:28:38] <JT-Shop> we didn't plan that much
[18:31:19] <Tom_itx> bikes don't belong in pickups.
[18:31:42] <JT-Shop> I can see none of those had any redneck in them or they would know how to load into a truck
[18:31:48] <andypugh> Those bikes seem to agree.
[18:32:15] <Tom_itx> our moving ramp has a hole in it with a pin to match the hole in the tailgate
[18:32:21] <andypugh> The Custard is the one that surprises me, I doubt that has ever gone anywhere _except_ on the back of a truck.
[18:33:02] <JT-Shop> I brought a Suzuki 350 from North Carolina to Mississippi with the front wheel straped into the trunk of my Chevy Nova with no problems.
[18:49:24] <JT-Shop> other than the video being borked a bit the new motherboard works
[18:49:26] <Jymmm> Has anyone used these probes? http://www.ebay.com/itm/One-New-Professional-Test-Clip-Insulation-Piercing-/300313614014
[18:55:43] <andypugh> Not those specific ones, no.
[18:56:19] <Jymmm> andypugh: It's the point itself I was mostly concerned with.
[18:56:28] <andypugh> Yes, well worth having.
[18:56:41] <Jymmm> andypugh: hard to tell as theres no scale if those will pierce nicely
[18:57:03] <andypugh> You can scale from the Banana socket?
[18:57:25] <Jymmm> http://i.ebayimg.com/t/One-New-Professional-Test-Clip-Insulation-Piercing-/00/s/MTE4MlgxMjMy/$%28KGrHqN,!o8FBkT2zGLGBQl206Ie1!~~60_57.JPG
[18:58:08] <Jymmm> andypugh: that photo is the one I was talking about no scale. as the tip looks kinda blunt
[18:58:47] <andypugh> It does, slightly, but that might be a good thing as you want to wiggle between the strands, not cut them.
[18:58:55] <Jymmm> not sure if theres room to sharpen them up a bit or not
[19:00:30] <andypugh> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fluke-TP81-Stainless-steel-Insulation-Piercing-Probe-W-Banana-Jack-/181192279051?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item2a2fe6c40b if you want to be sure :-)
[19:01:03] <Jymmm> andypugh: I'm not even gonna click on that link as I suspect it comes with a $50 price tag attached to it =)
[19:01:31] <Jymmm> andypugh: my bad, $105 USD =)
[19:01:33] <andypugh> You understimate
[19:02:09] <Jymmm> andypugh: Not really... http://www.amazon.com/Fluke-TP81-Stainless-Insulation-Piercing/dp/B000VRECUQ
[19:02:20] <Jymmm> andypugh: $45 with free shipping =)
[19:03:12] <andypugh> I just bought these, and blame you: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181179386348?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
[19:03:45] <Jymmm> andypugh: before or after the nes I linked to?
[19:03:50] <Jymmm> ones*
[19:03:53] <andypugh> After
[19:03:57] <Jymmm> lol
[19:04:20] <Jymmm> Isaw those, but They seem to big to get into harnesses sometimes
[19:05:29] <andypugh> That style is specifically for that, the wedge end is meant to be pushed into the harness, then you open the gap to let the correct wire drop in.
[19:05:46] <Jymmm> which?
[19:06:04] <Jymmm> yours or mine?
[19:06:04] <andypugh> 181179386348
[19:06:54] <Jymmm> ah, but still too big I think
[19:07:06] <Jymmm> *shrug*
[19:12:47] <Jymmm> andypugh: The ones I was looking at:
[19:12:49] <Jymmm> These work with some effort, but they're not nearly as good as the Pomona Electronics (POM6405) Insulation Piercing Clips. They're thinner, but they don't pierce insulation as well, or as reliably, and often require manual pressure to maintain contact.
[19:17:03] <MacGalempsy_> evening
[19:18:21] <andypugh> Evening. Goodnight, in fact, looking at the clock :-)
[19:18:58] <MacGalempsy_> sounds like ful
[19:19:12] <MacGalempsy_> fun, counting down the time?
[19:20:00] <MacGalempsy_> andypugh: I need a little insight to getting the machine to automatically home
[19:20:35] <andypugh> Nah, just about to go to sleep.
[19:20:45] <MacGalempsy_> I can get the axes to move, but still cant figure out how to click a button and have the machine touch the home switch and backoff
[19:21:39] <andypugh> Standard GUI?
[19:21:48] <MacGalempsy_> yep
[19:21:57] <MacGalempsy_> when I click home, it just zeros
[19:22:02] <MacGalempsy_> the dro
[19:22:24] <andypugh> You need to define the home switch inputs and the search and latch velocities.
[19:22:38] <MacGalempsy_> the switches work
[19:22:52] <andypugh> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/ini_homing.html
[19:22:54] <MacGalempsy_> so just define the search and latch velocities?
[19:23:17] <tjtr33> MacGalempsy, try looking at this http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/ini_homing.html
[19:23:30] <tjtr33> doh! he types fast
[19:23:50] <andypugh> <makes his escape>
[19:23:54] <tjtr33> :)
[19:24:13] <MacGalempsy_> lagging? heh
[19:24:29] <tjtr33> just faster than I
[19:25:06] <Valen> friendly reminder to clean your heatsinks, just had cpu temp alarm on my desktop, not suprising really it was 100% clogged
[19:25:12] <Valen> well for those of us going into summer
[19:26:08] <tjtr33> ive had same on laptop, weird copper snake with fins was fulla lint
[19:28:13] <Valen> be carefull blowing them out, stick something in to jam the fan or you can overspeed it
[19:33:04] <tjtr33> hehe, i clean the desktop fans when powered off , with shop air ( i like the noise they make 'turbines to power batman!" )
[19:34:16] <tjtr33> hmm, i suppose they should be disconected for the generated dc ... oops!
[20:31:29] <Valen> its the overspeed of the bearings that is the problem
[21:24:35] <jesseg> Anyone played with this? http://heeks.net/
[21:45:31] <uw> looks good jesseg
[21:48:32] <jesseg> I'm trying to compile it on slackware hahahahaha..
[21:49:21] <uw> generating tool paths has been the worst part of open source cnc milling IMO
[21:49:29] <uw> if this works, that would be cool
[21:52:54] <jesseg> want to bet on whether I'll be able to get it to work on slackware? LOL. (Slackware is probably the hardest of all desktop distros to use when trying to get fancy graphics apps to compile.