#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-12-01

[02:00:26] <_DJ_> moin
[05:08:13] <deluemmel88> ich freue mich meine ersten gehversuche zu machen....hallo
[05:42:11] <RyanS> http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb176/Mingzhus/drillpressjunctionbox_zps5b116975.jpg (junction box 3P, 415V, 1.5kw) do I have an easy VFD upgrade or a nuisance? There is no badge or labels on the motor which is a pain
[05:42:49] <archivist> I just get a white screen on photobucket
[05:48:50] <RyanS> Really? hmm let me see . What is going on
[05:50:06] <RyanS> http://s210.photobucket.com/user/Mingzhus/media/drillpressjunctionbox_zps5b116975.jpg.html ?
[06:07:22] <RyanS> Is that link working for you?
[07:31:42] <archivist> i see a the page build then a full blank white screen
[08:18:03] <PetefromTn> MMmmornin' Folks...
[09:31:59] <JT_Shop> dang mouse quits working on this computer
[09:33:30] <Loetmichel> i have trhown one in the trahs a week ago or so
[09:33:39] <Loetmichel> ... cherry, not the cheapest kind
[09:33:50] <_DJ_> get trackball :)
[09:33:54] <Loetmichel> workst about 10 min, then nothing
[09:34:02] <_DJ_> using mine for 10 years++
[09:34:33] <Loetmichel> plugout, plugin (usb) ... working again 10 min
[09:34:33] <JT_Shop> I swapped the mouse out and it is not a mouse problem
[09:34:33] <Loetmichel> VERY annoying
[09:34:51] <Tom_itx> PS2 or USB?
[09:34:54] <Loetmichel> and thats not the first mouse wiht this behaviour from this batch at the company
[09:35:14] <Loetmichel> have thrown away about 10$ of the ~300 mouses weh had there over the last 3 years
[09:36:10] <Loetmichel> 10%, not 10$
[09:39:54] <archivist> most reliable mouse I ever had was made by Mouse Systems, I actually got spares from them to keep it running (pads)
[09:43:34] <archivist> next best, Logitech
[11:51:27] <jthornton> now I keep loosing the internet connection on that computer
[11:54:17] <Jymmm> Only ONE computer? Sounds like your router config
[11:54:34] <Jymmm> or bad nic/cable
[11:55:47] <Jymmm> Does it only lose internet, or LAN too ?
[11:56:04] <jthornton> mostly it is the mouse that quits Jymmm
[11:56:32] <kengu> what documentations should I go reading to figure out how to get the machine to automatically home upon linuxcnc startup
[11:56:54] <Jymmm> jthornton: how old is the box?
[11:57:02] <jthornton> I don't think you can do that, you have to press estop them power then home all
[11:57:09] <jthornton> it's an older Dell
[11:57:32] <Jymmm> jthornton: How old? 5 10 20 years?
[11:57:59] <jthornton> dunno, it was a freebee
[11:58:12] <Jymmm> jthornton: Did you just get it?
[11:58:14] <jthornton> 10.04 is loaded on it
[11:58:28] <Jymmm> jthornton: Whats the SVCTAG on it?
[11:58:28] <jthornton> no, it's been in the shop for a while... may be dirty!
[11:58:43] <Jymmm> barcode sticker
[11:58:44] <jthornton> what is SVCTAG?
[11:58:52] <Jymmm> barcode sticker
[11:58:55] <jthornton> ok
[11:59:19] <Jymmm> with a 5 to 9 alphanumeric service tag number on it
[11:59:30] <Jymmm> usually on the back
[12:00:13] <kengu> jthornton: ok. that explains why there is not too much info on that. combining power on with homing routine would be too nice.
[12:00:54] <Jymmm> kengu: That would be like a car that when you start it it is already in DRIVE
[12:01:27] <Jymmm> jthornton: find it yet?
[12:02:21] <JT-Shop> it's a HP LOL, the mouse is a Dell
[12:02:45] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Use it for target practice.
[12:02:48] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:02:49] <Tom_itx> kick it
[12:03:06] <JT-Shop> the HP and the Dell?
[12:03:21] <Tom_itx> just the HP
[12:03:27] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: or boat anchor,, your choice. BOTH
[12:03:36] <JT-Shop> I need to dig up another computer
[12:03:52] <Tom_itx> ask your pup where he buried it
[12:04:10] * JT-Shop wanders off to look for a replacement for the PoC HP
[12:04:10] <IchGuckLive> IBM in the USA what else
[12:05:16] <IchGuckLive> for mill the siemens Fujitsu P5915 is a good cheep request
[12:07:27] <IchGuckLive> oh i see this numbers arent sold to the USA
[12:07:33] <IchGuckLive> so im off on this
[12:09:35] <kengu> Jymmm: well.. to combine the power on and homing was something I was looking for.
[12:10:01] <archivist> some might regard that as dangerous
[12:11:36] <kengu> some yes. me not.
[12:11:57] <kengu> depends a lot on the machine
[12:12:37] * Tom_itx puts up a safety guard around kengu
[12:13:10] <Jymmm> Ok, video semi-cheesy, but doens't seem like a bad product... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94npWntQY2g
[12:14:02] <archivist> kengu, think about a job still bolted on the machine and the head the wrong side of the item
[12:14:48] <archivist> a condition just after an emergency stop or power failure
[12:15:34] <kengu> archivist: in this particular machine. nothing would happen as long as the laser is not firing
[12:15:53] <kengu> i am not putting the autohome on the router or the plasma
[12:18:40] <dgarr> yes -- when i made .ui files i had found somewhere that .ui was preferred suffix name but i don't remember why
[12:23:39] <IchGuckLive> Ui is part of Photoshop
[14:08:01] <Jymmm> http://www.amazon.com/Power-Probe-Ultimate-Automotive-Electrical/dp/B000KPU8MK
[14:13:39] <alex_joni> hey Jymmm
[16:05:40] <_DJ_> good night
[19:44:18] <Tom_itx> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Desktop-Board-D510MO-Atom-Processor-1GB-RAM-included-D510-Dual-Core-A-/281208756189
[19:44:41] <Tom_itx> more than 10 available
[19:45:48] <Tom_itx> not sure if that's the same one we used..
[19:46:53] <Jymmm> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121399
[19:47:34] <Jymmm> no paraport I think
[19:47:49] <Tom_itx> what's the plug behind the ser port?
[19:48:30] <Jymmm> not sure
[19:48:52] <pcw_home> parallel
[19:49:09] <Jymmm> ah, serial AND parallel http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/desktop-board-di510mo.html
[19:49:16] <Tom_itx> i never got one, i went with the d525
[19:50:01] <pcw_home> I thing the sequnce is 945 D510 D525
[19:50:34] <Tom_itx> maybe somebody needs a replacement, just thought i'd post it
[19:50:39] * Tom_itx looks at JT-Shop
[19:50:48] * Jymmm looks at jthornton
[19:50:58] <andypugh> My mill is running a D510MO. It's perfectly good, and at that price you can't go wrong.
[19:51:05] <pcw_home> well 2XXX after those and now J1750,J1850 etc
[19:51:35] <pcw_home> which look nice as they are lower power but almost twice as fast
[19:52:44] <Jymmm> Do LCD's even come with VGA these days?
[19:53:04] <andypugh> Anyway, goodnight chaps.
[19:53:09] <Tom_itx> later andypugh
[19:53:10] <Jymmm> nite andypugh
[19:53:24] <Tom_itx> the crap ones get do
[19:53:34] <pcw_home> I think a fair share have both VGA and HDMI
[19:54:02] <pcw_home> A couple we got in the last few months do
[19:54:39] <Jymmm> ah
[19:54:51] <Jymmm> Mine has vga and dvi, but no hdmi
[19:55:01] <Jymmm> BUT.... It DOES 2048 too =)
[19:55:38] <Jymmm> It's the only LCD that I've seen that does under 30"
[19:57:58] <Jymmm> Shit, I wish I had an enclosure for it
[20:00:51] <Jymmm> Intel Atom D510 @ 1.66GHz = 670
[20:01:36] <Jymmm> Intel Pentium 4 2.80GHz = 335
[20:02:04] <Jymmm> So, twice as fast
[20:03:05] <pcw_home> J1850 = 1814
[20:03:16] <Jymmm> pcw_home: ?
[20:03:18] <pcw_home> (latest atom)
[20:03:21] <Jymmm> ah
[20:03:53] <Jymmm> Intel Celeron J1850 @ 1.99GHz = 1814
[20:03:56] <pcw_home> Though I think Intel is branding them as Celerons now
[20:04:21] <pcw_home> (bay trail Atom with Intel Graphics)
[20:06:13] <Jymmm> Intel Core i5-2400S @ 2.50GHz = 4863
[20:06:49] <pcw_home> Yeah but J1850 is 10W TDP (D510 is 13W)
[20:07:24] <Jymmm> UG UG UG MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE POWER Intel Xeon E5-2687W v2 @ 3.40GHz = 17097
[20:08:12] <Jymmm> cpu alone, or the whole board is 10W ?
[20:08:15] <pcw_home> so (very roughly) 3x performance and 20% or so power drop is pretty decent
[20:08:26] <pcw_home> CPU only
[20:08:59] <Jymmm> Well, the i5 is my mac... http://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac-core-i5-2.5-21-inch-aluminum-mid-2011-thunderbolt-specs.html
[20:09:56] <pcw_home> The bay trail Atoms look like the first Intel processors
[20:09:58] <pcw_home> to really challenge ARM in performance/Watt
[20:10:19] <Jymmm> Sorry, I just dont do codenames anymore.
[20:10:58] <Jymmm> Hmmm, I wonder if i have any DDR2 ram
[20:11:59] <Jymmm> I have a couple of 1U PS around here too, though a tad overkill
[20:14:08] <Jymmm> I could embed that in my laser directly, just wish I had a SDD
[20:14:52] <pcw_home> Hmm 46 uSec latency not bad for Rt-Preempt
[20:15:18] <Jymmm> <20 is better =)
[20:15:49] <Jymmm> I wish it had 4 sata port
[20:15:59] <pcw_home> not going to happen with RT-Preempt
[20:16:06] <Jymmm> heh
[20:16:19] <Jymmm> It make a nice lil NAS box then
[20:16:34] <Jymmm> nothing fancy, just bulk storage
[20:17:04] <Jymmm> and hopefully less than 80W/H
[21:20:36] <skunkworks> pcw_home: testing micges stuff?
[21:46:25] <Tom_itx> pcw_home you around?
[21:49:54] <atom1> hm2/hm2_7i43.0: board has FPGA '3s200tq144' but the firmware in hm2/7i43/SVST2_4_7I47SSS.BIT is for FPGA '3s400tq144'
[21:50:03] <atom1> but i have the 400k gate chip
[21:55:35] <Tom_itx> XC3S400
[21:55:39] <Tom_itx> any ideas?
[21:58:23] <Tom_itx> i could select the 200k gate chip in the file but i don't have that one
[22:04:06] <NickParker> pcw_home how do I make my new .bit file actually change the pinouts? I compiled it and got a .bit file out, then used mesaflash to flash it and verify it, but dmesg didn't change. After that I also tried adding firmware=[myfirmware].bit to my hm2_pci config and dmesg is still the same.
[22:04:23] <NickParker> what have I missed? I've got my pins file posted on pastebin if it would help.
[22:05:17] <NickParker> wait wups nvm found a simple mistake.
[22:05:29] <Tom_itx> move them in the io order
[22:05:32] <NickParker> seems I never saved the version of my pins file with the pwmgen tags defined
[22:05:38] <Tom_itx> woops
[22:05:48] <NickParker> Tom_itx: what do you mean by that though, out of curiosity?
[22:05:59] <Tom_itx> where's your file?
[22:06:05] <NickParker> http://pastebin.com/FB3NU9KP
[22:06:15] <NickParker> but it's lacking pwmgen module defs so it's rather silly as is
[22:07:02] <Tom_itx> what do you want moved?
[22:07:23] <NickParker> That's the pin file I wrote, I want them as you see there.
[22:07:45] <NickParker> Currently I've got stepgen00's 4 pins first then stepgen01's 4 pins then only 2 pins for stepgen02
[22:07:55] <NickParker> plus 3 encoder pins a ways down
[22:08:08] <Tom_itx> that should be the IO order afik
[22:08:18] <Tom_itx> i've only done this a handful of times
[22:09:01] <Tom_itx> the PinDesc array
[22:09:19] <NickParker> what about it?
[22:09:32] <Tom_itx> that should be your IO order
[22:10:36] <Tom_itx> if you want the pinout in a different order i think you rearrange them there
[22:10:46] <Tom_itx> just make sure the hardware will support it
[22:10:50] <NickParker> yeah that's what I think as well
[22:10:58] <NickParker> I believe my issue right now is just my pwmgen silliness.
[22:11:07] <NickParker> working on transferring the moduleIDs for pwmgen over now
[22:11:33] <Tom_itx> i was fighting some corrupt files i got somehow
[22:11:35] <Jymmm> 30 minutes DOMINOS STEP ASIDE.... http://www.cbsnews.com/news/amazon-unveils-futuristic-plan-delivery-by-drone/
[22:11:50] <Tom_itx> once i reinstalled the zip things started working as they should
[22:13:43] <Tom_itx> NickParker, i'm actually doing the same thing with mine. trying to remap some io functions
[22:14:19] <NickParker> it looks like at least for pwmgen I can just copy a whole paren'd line over. that is, replace one of the null lines in the ModuleID array with (PWMTag, x"00", ClockHighTag, x"18", PWMValAddr&PadT, PWMNumRegs, x"00", PWMMPBitMask)
[22:14:47] <Tom_itx> just update the number of them present
[22:15:11] <Tom_itx> the 'instances'
[22:15:21] <Tom_itx> 4th parameter iirc
[22:16:04] <NickParker> I don't follow. You mean I need to change the x00 at the end of that line somehow to get only 1?
[22:16:10] <NickParker> do i need to do the same for my stepgens i wonder?
[22:16:33] <Tom_itx> is the structure at the top
[22:16:44] <NickParker> brb
[22:16:46] <Tom_itx> make sure the Instances are right
[22:16:54] <Jymmm> $30 for the atim mobo, $42 for a PS http://search.ebay.com/160721056266
[22:18:09] <Jymmm> http://www.ebay.com/itm/160W-DC-12V-Pico-ATX-switch-PSU-Car-Auto-MINI-ITX-ATX-Power-Supply/151177331137?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D163%26meid%3D3105090859608545335%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D271330592762%26
[22:18:46] <Jymmm> ve7it: $30 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Desktop-Board-D510MO-Atom-Processor-1GB-RAM-included-D510-Dual-Core-A-/281208756189#rpdCntId
[22:18:51] <Jymmm> bbiab
[22:20:19] <ve7it> Jymmm, good price
[22:21:58] <NickParker> i actually have to go. ty for the help Tom_itx, I'll figure out my instances when i get back
[22:22:17] <Tom_itx> i'm about to cash it in for the night as well
[23:12:12] <tvc> Hello, can anyone point me in a direction to see an example where a hal float pin is set or changed through python? is this even possible?